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Texas And Fox & Friends Spar Over War On Textbooks

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Fox & Friends has been highlighting the “War On Textbooks” going on in Texas – a war that continues to rage today.

But the Texas Education Agency has introduced a new element into the war – fact-checking.

On Wednesday the TEA put out a press release with a point-by-point fact-check to a Fox & Friends segment earlier that day. It ranges from year discrepancies to what FNC reported is being deleted from the textbooks.

The next day, co-host Steve Doocy clarified a few elements of the original report. “Technically, what they are doing, is they are developing curriculum standards that will set what is taught in classes, and then those standards will become part of a framework that textbooks are based on,” he said. “We were just trying to make it simpler.”

As for the year issue, Doocy said:

Also, we talked about a suggestion that was made that history is, American history starts in the year 1877. That was a suggestion, made first of all, in North Carolina, and we thought we were pretty clear that these were just suggestions, and there have been a lot of suggestions, regarding the founding fathers, and some different dates that may or may not be included in the text.

But the idea that Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and references to Independence Day and Christmas could possibly be removed stayed uncorrected.

The Texas textbook debate has been a focus on Fox News, with 35 references this week (including all programs). CNN has just two this week and MSNBC had one (according to TV Eyes).

Here’s the segment from Wednesday:

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  • PureFreedom

    Lets make all the people on the left happy! They want to change everything we ever learned to appease some far left groups.
    Take out anything in our American history or even world history to reference white people except for the slavery and the Nazis of course.
    The car ,airplane and modern medicine along with many many other things were discovered or invited by white people must be taken out because there is too many white people involved and so its must be racist.

  • The Real Royal King

    Fact=checking F&F? That’s just tacky! And a life’s work.

  • http://www.sailrabbits.com Magister

    When you compare the clip to the very rational arguments offered by TEA, it’s obvious that Fox & Friends simply had a set of talking points that was probably distributed by the fellow they interviewed and did no research on their own.

    I guess it’s good that they’re not a “news” program, but you’d think that they at least had an intern take a cursory glance at an advocacy group’s position before it was parroted by anchors on-air.

    Heck, even when I was in school a million years ago, we spread historical periods over different grades.

  • rbarnes

    The problem is that the story isn’t, in fact, what is happening in Texas. They have removed teaching Thomas Jefferson’s political philosophies and replaced him with John Calvin. They have refused to require that it be taught that the Constitution prohibits the U.S. from promoting one religion over another. Sociology curriculum will not teach about institutional racism. And it goes on and on. The true problem isn’t that FOX needed fact-checking…it’s that the media is virtually ignoring the horrendous misjustice being done to education in Texas.

  • CSS

    Fox totally deserved the lashing out by TEA on this one! They should have read the TEKS before making any snap judgments.

  • Jim R

    Ironically, 1877 is the year recognized by historians as the year the Republican Party officially gave up on reconstruction in the south, leading to the brutal Jim Crow period that lasted until Truman integrated the military, Brown V Board, and the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    Much like the Reagan hagiography, Lincoln is selectively honored by those to whom many of his beliefs are anathema. To whit:

    “I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country…corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war.”

    President Abraham Lincoln

  • sueNaustin

    rbarnes says:
    March 12, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    You are absolutely correct about Thomas Jefferson. The conservatives removed him from the list of revolutionary leaders because he coined the hated (to them) phrase “separation of church and state.” But there is so much that is just mind boggling about what the unqualified elected State Board of Education people are doing. Did we really need to add the NRA to the history books as part of the 80′s resurgent conservative movement? Trying to make McCarthy look ok? Really? And replacing the word “capitalist” with “free-market” instead because they think the word has been blackened too much … I guess it was poll-tested.

  • same2u

    Only a dirty f**ing freeper would slight Thomas Jefferson in this way and embrace Joe McCarthy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    “Fox and Friends,’ that new show for individuals of child like intellect and who think themselves too old for whatever replaced Romper Room.

  • The Real Royal King

    I has a terrifying morning. When I opened the Austin American-Statesman this morning, there was a picture of the Gretch. An old, very old, flattering picture, apparently touched up so her eyes don’t look so crossed and she appears to be smiling. The headline was “Carlson Confuses North Carolina with Texas”. The article dealt at length with her confusion over the states, her failure to understand the difference between text books and curriculum, and her basic lack of understanding of the facts. On the Statesman’s “Truth-o-Meter” she got the “Liar, Liar Pants on Fire” rating. The article noted the Gretch has not retracted (Has she ever?) but that her colleague, the Douche “back’tracked” on her behalf. “FOX: We Make Up, You Decide.”

  • The Real Royal King

    has = had

    That picture of the Gretch, above, scared me.

  • CSS

    Thanks Royal King. Here’s the article in case anyone wants to read about Fox’s horrendous mistakes on this subject. I think this F& F segment rates right there with Beck’s interview of Massa as one of the worst! Carlson should apologize and set the record straight.

    http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/mar/12/gretchen-carlson/gretchen-carlson-says-state-board-education-consid/

  • The Real Royal King

    Does the Gretch ever really apologize? She’s made hundreds of “mistakes” on the air, and I can’t remember an apology of substance.

    I do have to say this is one of the sloppiest pieces of journalism I have ever seen, and, as you say, on the heels of the Beck debacle, it makes me think someone at FOX needs to crack the whip.

  • writer

    Maybe she could make one of those Keith Olbermann-style apologies, where she throws in a few insults.

  • The Real Royal King

    No, I don’t think the Gretch has the character, the substance to “fess up to” a mistake.

  • writer

    An evening of reviewing tapes of Keith, seeing how a proper apology is done, and I think she’ll be good to go.

  • CSS

    One final note to Mr. Doocy, the TEKS (pronounced “teaks” which are the curriculum standards) are set by the TX State Board of Education and not the textbook companies. To use the word “technically” is a major understatement! Does he actually think that any textbook company is going to print books that are not aligned with the TEKS?? If they did that, no district in the state would adopt their materials, plain and simple. I think Mr. Doocy needs to so some research on how the TEKS are written and he can start with this resource:

    http://ritter.tea.state.tx.us/ssc/teks_and_taas/teks/teksqa.htm

  • J Baustian

    Quote: Doocy said: “Also, we talked about a suggestion that was made that history is, American history starts in the year 1877.”

    When I taught American history in Texas, 8th graders studied the period from 1492 until the end of Reconstruction (1877); then 11th graders studied 1877 until the present. I actually spent several weeks reviewing the French and Indian War, the American Revolution and the Constitutional Convention, then other major events leading up to the Civil War. I just did not feel that my students had received and retained enough information about the Founders and the Early Republic back in the 8th grade.

    The TEKS for 11th graders do not, by definition, include people or events prior to 1877. But that does not mean the first century of the American republic is ignored, only that it is supposed to be covered during the 8th grade.

  • J Baustian

    additional…

    IMO it would make more sense to cover the two years, four semesters, of US history in consecutive years, not the years before 1877 in the 8th grade and then the period afterward in the 11th grade. 8th graders are too young, too immature, and too scatter-brained to learn and retain the important information about the Founders and the Early Republic.

  • CSS

    To clarify my point above, I agree with TEA’s statement that the “standards” are being revised, not the textbooks. Yes, the textbook companies will follow suit and align all of the materials to the revised TEKS. This is nothing new!!! F&F’s coverage has been misleading and this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. I can’t imagine any other state adopting textbooks that don’t align with their own educational standards. Furthermore, the textbook is only “one” resource available to teachers. Good teachers will bring in other resources into their classrooms, like trade books, and not solely rely on the textbook.

    J Baustian’s comments are excellent and what is interesting is that FOX has totally overlooked that the TEKS also include “Celebrate Freedom Week.” This is a week totally dedicated to the meaning and importance of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights. This was added to the TEKS in 2001 after 9/11. This has not been removed!

    To my knowledge, one of the biggest controversies was over the the list of historical figures to be “added.” It was not the deletion of Lincoln, Washington, and Jefferson.

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