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WSJ Editorial Defiantly Bashes Critics Of News Corp.; Internet Points And Laughs

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One of the more fascinating secondary narratives that has arisen from the phone hacking and corruption scandal that has enmeshed News Corp. is the way in which the many media properties under Rupert Murdoch‘s purview have covered this story. Perhaps because the story is still very much in a fluid state, the critiques of the reporting have been both up and down. But the recent defense penned by the Wall Street Journal editorial board is the most full-throated defense yet, and takes the unique approach of actually attacking News Corp. critics.

Mediaite has pointed out a number of examples of smart and aggressive coverage by News Corp. properties, and even CNN’s Wolf Blitzer has reported that there is no story with the way that Fox News has reported on the News of the World scandal. There is, however, the odd example of Fox and Friends method of coverage, which somehow conflated the hacking of various corporations with the alleged hacking pulled off by their once corporate brethren in the U.K.

But to date, no outlet has taken a vigorously aggressive tack toward critics of News Corp. in this still-brewing scandal. Until now, that is. What’s that old saying? The best defense is a good offense? Since publishing, various blogs and Twitter users have openly mocked the column. While it’s worth reading the entire piece, here are some selected highlights for your reading pleasure:

The old “It’s the police’s fault for not catching it” defense:

At least three British investigations into phone-hacking and payments to police and others by the now-shuttered News of the World tabloid are underway, with 10 arrests so far. News Corp. and its executives have apologized profusely and are cooperating with authorities. Phone-hacking is illegal, and it is up to British authorities to enforce their laws. If Scotland Yard failed to do so adequately when the hacking was first uncovered several years ago, then that is more troubling than the hacking itself.

Yup. The logic here is that the fact that Scotland Yard hadn’t uncovered the alleged crime is a bigger story than the crime itself. How convenient. Next up…

The ironically detached “everyone has been doing this, so how dare you blame our corporate brothers?”:

It is also worth noting the irony of so much moral outrage devoted to a single media company, when British tabloids have been known for decades for buying scoops and digging up dirt on the famous. Fleet Street in general has long had a well-earned global reputation for the blind-quote, single-sourced story that may or may not be true. The understandable outrage in this case stems from the hacking of a noncelebrity, the murder victim Milly Dowler.

It’s worth noting that the writers included an important hedge of the murder victim at the end of this paragraph, but some skeptics may suggest this was simply a cynical exploitation of the victim.

Finally? Let’s take a shot at the Bancroft family who sold WSJ to the Murdochs, and reportedly expressed regret at the sale:

The prize for righteous hindsight goes to the online publication ProPublica for recording the well-fed regrets of the Bancroft family that sold Dow Jones to News Corp. at a 67% market premium in 2007. The Bancrofts were admirable owners in many ways, but at the end of their ownership their appetite for dividends meant that little cash remained to invest in journalism. We shudder to think what the Journal would look like today without the sale to News Corp.

Yes, if not for Rupert Murdoch coming to the rescue, the WSJ would exist in such shambles as to make the current editorial board shudder in reaction. Oddly, the sheer amount of breathless and defiant hyperbole in this column suggests the true nature of the WSJ under Murdoch’s control, which is far more revealing than anything written in this particular essay.

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  • Anonymous

    Fact: This Lunatic Loony leftist attempt at Murdoch will net the same results as Sarah Palins e-mails from her time as govenor of Alaska. NADA ZIP ZILCH!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    This is fun! Bye Bye Rupert!

  • Anonymous

    Um, I think I’m going to seek a second opinion.

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    What Journalism left in the world doesn’t walk the line of honest/dishonest.. some get caught.. and will pay dearly for it.. Rightfully so!

    Murdoch wont be one of them..he didn’t know or chose not to know and that’s going to be the end of this story. I doubt money is an issue for him. Hopefully, all other “journalists?” will see crime does not pay and you will be given to the wolves you have created in the end. ok, so you may have a few good years at the top till it all comes floating up out of the sewers you dealt in..but eventually..

    Sounds like a pretty good story and does show corruption in scotland yard and fail on their part…what’s the point?
     
     

  • Celisary45

    Lets see the largest Sunday paper in England closes, The Head of Scotland Yard Resigns, the Editor of the largest paper in England Resigns, Murdoch right hand man in England Resigns, But the WSJ sees no story here!!!!  Before Murdoch brought the WSJ, it was one of the Worlds Great newspapers, today it is a Propaganda Rag for the Fox-Republicans, Pathetic, NO,NO,  My friends at the WSJ this is a story and not far from you BUILDING, GET READY!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    You have no idea how bad this is gonna get do you? Seriously you are gonna have to find something else to watch in a few months Fox is toast.

  • Anonymous

    Why are you yelling then? Seem a bit nervous…

  • Anonymous

    Going to get harder and harder to blame someone other than News Corp for this one. Given the resignations, arrests, the personal apology to the girl’s family and 2 apology ads Murdoch has run, I would say this has entered the world of facts and left the “out to get us blame the other side” fantasy world both sides tend to operate in.

    This is a real scandal and one that now has spread to the US in the form of an FBI investigation requested by Conservative Republican Peter King. Is he now “Lunatic Loony Leftist?”

  • Anonymous

    Fact: swing and a miss two.

  • Anonymous

    Fox News challenges the tax-exempt status of Soros-funded Media Matters after Media Matters publicly declared a “war on Fox.” The left-wing media and politicians in Great Britain, particularly the Guardian, gin up outrage against NOTW. Coincidence? I think not.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: swing and a miss one.

  • Anonymous

    These guys are so whacked out, they don’t know what coming. These actions are not rational, looks like the action of a trapped mouse. 

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Peter King is a loony tunes lefty!

  • Anonymous

    Good for the WSJ, it is about time they started fighting back.  Watching the left do their “assocaition stories” makes me sick after they compalined, bitched, maoned, groaned and denied any guilt by association with Ayers and Obama, Resko and Obama, Farakhan and Obama, Wright and Obama, Rashid Khali and Obama….and on and on and one.  But, becuase Murdoch owns all of these entities, he is guilty.

    Thank goodness for the push back. 

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I guess no one was arrested this weekend from a high position in News Corp…oh wait.

  • Anonymous

    How predictable. When King opposed the mosque, he was a Republican hero. Now that he dares look at possible violations by Fox, he is a lefty.

    Want to know why the GOP is doomed? See the above. They keep jettisoning anyone that dares speak out and fails to salute the icons.

    The Dems are not much better but the GOP is setting all kinds of records for dumb behavior.

    So you know, King is a strong conservative voice in Congress that you would gladly eject because he represented his constituents and asked for an investigation.

  • Anonymous

    Other real newspapers don’t hack phones buddy.

  • Anonymous

    I guess we can see what Glenn Beck has been doing since cancellation.

    How you doing Glenn?

  • Anonymous

    You’re defending a paper that hacked the phones of murder and terrorism victims….does your ideology really require you to surrender your morals to such a level?

  • Anonymous

    Ginned up? Hello! Murdoch acknowledged and apologized for the hacking. Not ginned up. London police chief resigns. Not ginned up. Top UK News Corp exec arrested. Not ginned up.

    See, this is the real problem. Neither side can ever admit that someone on their side is wrong. Well, News Corp acted wrongly and Murdoch said so himself.

    Stop blaming everyone else.

  • Anonymous

    Seriously?  He hates Moo-slims more than any other Tea Partier, I thought he was your king?

  • Anonymous

    The WSJ sticking up for News Corp. is like Charlie Sheen’s live-in whores telling TMZ what a great dad he is.

  • Anonymous

    I am defending Murcoch, not the paper.  There is zero evidence Murdoch knew what was gonig on, so don’t you talk to me about morals.  Just like you guys claimed Obama wasn’t guiltybecause of his assocaitions with terrorists and such, I’m defending Murdoch because there is no evidence that he is the guilty party here.

  • tstev tstev

  • Ben Slarn

    James Murdoch as Saif Gaddafi:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPotrg8tNj8

  • tstev tstev

    Look at your own comments.  You seem to be a apostle to Fox News.   How valid is a comment by apostle who is ranting to protect wrong doings by a member of media 


    - Peter King is a loony tunes lefty!
    – sorry wacko’s better luck eatting crow! Gretta enjoys what Fox does for her and her audiance.
    – Nothing is happening with Fox News just because UK had a some story.
    - Liberals are the educated ones that can’t even spell FOX NEWS!
    - I will stick to watching Fox News thanks anyway!

  • Anonymous

    I suggest that everyone on the Left remember the DUKE LACROSSE CASE. The possibility exists that the Murdochs and News Corp is being NIFONGED. Does anyone know any actual CHARGES leveled against Ms. Brooks, the Murdochs, or News Corp. (Eric Holder investigating does NOT count- he’s just the enforcer for the Obama administration.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NUT75XKRMJZ2QZJUUWOYH7Y7TA Cincy

    Gosh…Colby Hall says lefty bloggers have mocked the WSJ column. *GASP*…say it ain’t so!!!!

    NOTW listened in on the VMs from Hugh Grant’s hookers. *YAWN*…non-story…non-scandal.

    What else ya got Mediaite??

  • tstev tstev

    The head of UK publication could not have known that her staff were involved in hacking.  She must have known and being very close to the owner of the News Corp, it is unlikely that Rupert and his sons were unaware of phone taping.  

    In fact they didn`t disassociate themselves with similar activities in US as related to Mr. Okeefe and his connection to political hacks.

  • Anonymous

    Mark Steyn will be hosting for Rush in a few minutes and I cannot wait to hear his evaluation of the NOTW scandal in the UK. He usually cuts through the b.s. to get to the heart of the matter.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NUT75XKRMJZ2QZJUUWOYH7Y7TA Cincy

    Oh noes….even Wolf Blitzer was critical of the coverage. Got that?? Wolf Blitzer…EVEN!!!

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    are you that sure of that?

  • Anonymous

    Way to shift responsibility there, funny how slippery your ethos is when push comes to shove.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Like the majority that watch Fox News as a news source we as a collective like to be informed about both sides of an issue not just government spoon feed propaganda. Thus fair and balanced that lets you decide. Informed yes, apostle no way. I really don’t get how being informed of both sides of an issue protects anyone by the media. You should re-evaluate what you post and why? Are you a liberal probably!

  • Anonymous

    Ms, Brooks has been arrested in England on charges stemming from the hacking. She has also previously admitted to bribing police officers for information. She is currently awaiting trial in London as are several other News Corp folks. The publisher of the Wall Street Journal resigned suddenly over his involvement in the case.

    The Murdochs testify to Parliament tomorrow despite their best efforts to not testify. News Corp has been charge with the hacking and Murdoch admitted it in the News of the World case.

    Let me repeat that for the “let’s ignore reality” crowd. Murdoch admitted that his papers hacked into the cell phone of the missing and murdered little girl. He did so to her family in person and in 2 full page ads run all over England. Again, Murdoch admitted it.

    Holder did not launch the investigation. The FBI opened it at the request of conservative Republican Congressman Peter King. Is he the new Obama enforcer?

    Question – do you read or just parrot that idiot Doocy?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    Who is Glenn Beck?

  • Anonymous

    “we as a collective…” So you are now communists?

    There is no “majority” watching Fox News. Highest rated they may be, but majority, no. In fact, the “majority” doesn’t watch cable news at all.

    So what is the “other side” of this issue? Was Murdoch framed by the London Times? Oh, wait, he owns the very paper that has been pushing this story. The Cameron government in England? Umm. Apparently they are the conservatives and Murdoch’s people have a very cozy (to say the least) relationship there.

    Read it yourself: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/

  • Anonymous

    You are correct. There is no evidence Murdoch was directly involved, but Murdoch is the head of News Corp and therefore responsible for everything that happens there. It was Murdoch that launched the public defense and then the public apologies. So while he may not have known directly, his ship, his watch, his problem.

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    don’t think I am not for the fire and oil crowd burning down the house.. the honest truth in my eyes is he will not be arrested or charged in any crime.  Once again, I believe there isn’t a paper or media agency out there that does not walk the thin line.. some have yet to be caught..which..time will tell. I don’t know a media source I would trust, do you?

  • Mathmatix BN

    FACT: Putting Fact at the front of your statement does not, in itself, qualify as a fact.  TMYK

  • Mathmatix BN

    I guess 9/11 victims are a non story, non-scandal as well. 

    #FAIL

  • Anonymous

    I seem to recall a certain public radio story……

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, and people lost their jobs over that story because it was true. Remember that part?

  • Anonymous

     Internet Points And Laughs

    Then the Internet has a hamburger and a cup of coffee . Later , it forms a posse of likeminded vigilantes and prepares for a little necktie party . Even later , it stops by the saloon for a couple of belts followed by a few snorts and  some beer nuts .

  • Anonymous

    Is there a limited number of replies a poster can make to another? I can’t get a box to open for a response to KeevaS…..

    Anyways, well that was different. Those were hated leftists obamunists NPR. So they are to be vilified. Or vigorously defended of all wrong doing.

    It’s funny to see people doing a complete 180 based entirely on the supposed political ideology of those involved. Funny in a terribly depressing sort of way, that is.

  • Anonymous

    No, I don’t trust any of them, but unlike these News Corp properties, most do not engage in illegal tactics.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know if there is a limit, but I noticed it, too.

    I can honestly say that I am not a political ideologue on this. The law is the law. NPR got caught as did News of the World.

    The blind defense of anyone because of political stripe is dangerous at best. Yet, that is what we now have. Sad, truly sad.

  • Anonymous

    Trust and illegal activity are two different things.  I trust reporters, certain reporters, I trust some sources, including the Guardian, the Christian Science Monitor, Salon, the Sac Bee, etc, etc.

    Your view of “walking the line” is ridiculous and silly.  Show me an instance of the Guardian “walking the line” or being involved with anything close to this sort of mess?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Tarnes/1103910427 James Tarnes

    Do you really think Roger Ailes out of the Nixon ‘Dirty Tricks’ regime isn’t up to his ears in this slime?

  • Anonymous

    I think I don’t know enough to make a call like that. While I am not a fan of Ailes, there is zero evidence to support any accusations at this point.

  • Anonymous

    I am an MBA.  I used to subscribe to the WSJ.  Since Murdoch took it over, it has become such a right-wing nub-job tabloid that I feel dirty whenever I click on a link. 

    WSJ, you show your true, unethical colors here.  You are a News Corp property to the core.  (And btw, that is NOT a compliment.)

  • LibelFreeZone

    Thanks for saying that, KeevaS.  While I’m no fan of Frupert Murdork, let’s not turn this into the Salem Witch Trials, as HLN did the Casey Anthony case.

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    The reply button below does not seem to appear..so will continue here…

    Your view of “walking the line” is ridiculous and silly. Show me an instance of the Guardian “walking the line” or being involved with anything close to this sort of mess?     

    I don’t know the Guardian very well,  sorry, from what i just looked up it is a “young” paper and allows for freelance. No company can guarantee ethics or credibility under freelance let alone employees. While most media does use freelance with exemption clauses..helps later to point the finger in the other direction. People will do what it takes to get a story.. sorry if we differ in thought..I always follow money and know the greed and fame of man.

    it’s all harldy an issue to continue.. these are my opinions and as such show no use to you while your opinions fail to impress me. concluding no equal middle. I trust media as much as I trust the Government.

    for me, it’s kinda like this.. CNN is full of now known reporters anchoring shows that did the mideast stories.. to get these stories some had to break laws of different countries to get behind the borders, we except that as it was news coverage here at home, although illegal to many. Now to believe other reporters see this fame and attention and do not do those same things in their own countries to “me” would be deemed ridiculous and silly to trust a common man working in an industry that promotes story over ethics. It’s actually part of their job to digg and keep digging..it’s the saying believe in nothing you read and half what you see.. with photoshop, you might want that saying updated as well.. which has been used and found out. everything in media is walking graylines these days.. welcome to the modern world. 

  • LibelFreeZone
  • LibelFreeZone

    Murdoch communicated directly, every day, with his lieutenants.

    For better or worse, my company is a reflection of my character, my thinking, my values.  ~Rupert Murdoch 

  • http://profiles.google.com/robbieinbox Robbie Smith

    News Corpse, WSJ, and Slimy Murdoch are on the ropes.   I hope his arrest is imminent. What a disgusting human being.

  • Ganymede

    What appeared initially to be a farce is turning into a Greek tragedy. Murdoch has done more to damage the integrity of the media world than anyone else I can think of. In this country Fox has pandered to the very lowest common denominator and has dumbed down the American public to the point where we have these Tea Party fools who in their ignorance would destroy the last vestiges of our civil society. Fortunately the hacking episode hit Murdoch’s Achilles heel, and his moral hypocrisy could eventually force him out of the media business. And no one except the small number of Fox followers and Tea Partiers will shed a tear. It’s a unbelievably classic story and it’s just beginning to unfold. 

  • Anonymous

    You are denying the facts sir.  Rebekah Brooks, the right hand of Rupert Murdoch in England, used information attained through phone hacking during a conversation with Gordon Brown.  An editor of a newspaper would OF COURSE ask how this information was attained since it is of such a personal nature.  CNN doesn’t hack phones.  CBS doesn’t hack phones.  Real newspapers do not hack phones.

    The fact that you are unaware of the Guardian just makes me think you’re one of those homeschooled hillapes that troll Mediaite, so go do some reading, preferably not on Hot Air, about the world.  PLEASE.

  • Julia_S

    The sooner Murdoch’s grip on media and power broking in the UK, and Fox in the US is forcibly removed –the better.  

  • Jerry Baustian

    Perhaps one or two people were waiting anxiously to find out what Colby Hall thinks about all this, and now we know.

    I like this line from the WSJ editorial: “Especially redolent are lectures about journalistic standards from publications that give Julian Assange and WikiLeaks their moral imprimatur.”  I wonder who they could be referring to? (NYT and The Guardian?)

    It’s also worth noting a brief mention of the First Amendment. Britain has no such protection. But in the US, those who bray for the shuttering (not shuddering) of news organizations might consider the precedent that such an action would create. And the Journal asks, “Do our media brethren really want to invite Congress and prosecutors to regulate how journalists gather the news?”

    Referring to the alleged bribery of officers of the Metropolitan Police (which occurred before the 2007 purchase of Dow Jones by NewsCorp), Colby Hall criticizes the Journal for pointing out that ”Scotland Yard hadn’t uncovered the alleged crime is a bigger story than the crime itself.”  How convenient Colby asks. “Next up…
    The ironically detached “everyone has been doing this, so how dare you blame our corporate brothers?”

    I repeat, News of the World was not a corporate brother when all this voicemail hacking was going on? Private investigators, reporters, and editors were fired, arrested, and jailed before NewsCorp purchased Dow Jones and the WSJ.

  • Jerry Baustian

    Keeva wrote: “Ms. Brooks has been arrested in England on charges stemming from the hacking. She has also previously admitted to bribing police officers for information.”

    Not exactly. Rebekah Brooks has NOT admitted bribing anyone. In fact she worked at a different newspaper, The Sun, during the period 2003-2007 when nearly all the alleged hacking was going on. If she is at any risk, it is for activities during 2002 when Milly Dowler was murdered and voicemails went missing. Since her accuser is almost certainly Andy Coulson, and since he did not come along until he took her place as editor of NOTW in 2003, I would have to ask, “How could he know?”

    That is why I think the charges against Ms Brooks will be tossed out.

  • Jerry Baustian

    I guess baseless allegations are all that are necessary to convict someone in the court of public opinion. 

    Clearly Peter King wants to make sure that no laws were broken in the US. But he is also an inveterate headline-seeker. Other than Chuck Schumer, no one else in Congress from New York is as eager to place himself in front of a TV camera as Peter King.

  • Jerry Baustian

    Uncle Duke: while I’m sure that I disagree with you on many points regarding this story, I agree that The Guardian seems to have pressed this investigation without crossing any ethical lines itself. All will admit that what is bad for News International is good for The Guardian (and The Telegraph, and other independent papers). But The Guardian has distinguished itself with this story, even if it is one of my least-favorite papers and even if it was involved in the WikiLeaks scandal.

  • Jerry Baustian

    Uncle Duke, when this alleged phone hacking of Gordon Brown by Rebekah Brooks take place?

  • Jerry Baustian

    Beck has been in Israel, still producing his daily radio show 3 hours a day.

  • Jerry Baustian

    I can’t remember… how thoroughly did Howard Kurtz cover the “journolist” incident? probably not much, since they were his pals.

  • Anonymous

    Does he still mention George Soros with every breath?

  • Jerry Baustian

    Since 90% of the story is speculation, it is not surprising that Steyn focused on the budget debates. The budget IS more important, for most real people anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Anyway you look at it, no one man or corporation should be allowed to have such media power..

  • Julia_S

    You do that hon. Your idiocy is laughable. 

  • Anonymous

    Give it a rest.  Your phoney outrage is ridiculous and dumb.  Murdoch has done – bull shit on that one.  Rather did it in spades and didn’t even ruffle your little feathers.  

    Fox has pandered?  Yah, ok – Fox has reported news – the others have reported on Fox.  Funny how that works and we are the uninformed?  lol

    Small # of Fox followers – see when you tell a huge lie like that, the rest of your tirade sort of goes in the dumper also.  Nothing true – nothing honest.  Just your usually left wing bomb throwing to justify your pathetic existence.

  • Anonymous

    Rebekah Brooks admitted it in 2003. Watch and learn.

  • Anonymous

    Every politician is a headline seeker. It is what they do. King represents that part of New York. Of course he would call for the investigation.

  • Anonymous

    Won’t comment on “real” newspapers engaging in hacking, but they currently do way too much copy-and-pasting of items that are later proven to be incorrect.  Checking facts and getting the story right the first time seems like Journalism 101.
    I’d have to agree with Justplaythegame that we’re down to slim pickings for reliable investigative journalism, that concerns itself with the big issues affecting our society and world.  More and more it’s about ratings and what sells, an ethos that has reached right into the “real” newspapers bottom line, eliciting a reaction–complicity.

  • http://twitter.com/Darr247 Darr Darr

    I don’t get what the J in wsj.com stands for…  you ARE talking about the wall street urinal, right?

  • Jerry Baustian

    RI Vietnam era vet: You may be right, but that is irrelevant. The issue is, to what extent is a press scandal on another continent relevant to Americans. It is a curiosity, much like the Clinton sex scandal was a source of amusement for Britons and Europeans. 

    What about the role of NewsCorp in the US news world? Certainly the New York Times does not like to compete directly against both the Wall Street Journal and the New York Post. And the broadcast networks along with CNN do not like having to compete against the Fox entertainment channel and the Fox News Channel. 

    If not for NewsCorp, Americans would have fewer choices for entertainment and news. 

    As for power, many observers have noted that you can tell what stories will be covered on the evening news shows on all three broadcast networks, by reading that day’s New York Times. Not only do the networks cover the same stories, but they give each story the same slant as the NYT. 

    So the networks are not owned, but the are pwned. That, in my opinion, is more power than FNC could hope to acquire. Another way to look at it: FNC would not exist if the CNN and the three broadcast networks had been providing news without a leftwing slant. They — CNN, NBC, CBS, and ABC — created a huge gap in news coverage that was simply too attractive for someone like Murdoch to ignore.

  • Jerry Baustian

    Well, Keeva, unless she was testifying under immunity, then it seems like an admission.

    But that was eight years ago, and she was not prosecuted then or since.

    It would be interesting to view the rest of that interrogation.

  • JerryC

    “News” doesn’t have “both sides.”  News is news.  The fact that Fox News takes sides (and they do – Roger Ailes is a huge Republican/Neo-Con) demonstrate that that what they show isn’t news, it’s editorialization of news.  If you think you’re getting “both sides” of a story, what you’re actually getting is right-wing propaganda.  The really sad thing is that you are too stupid and/or lazy to notice. 

  • Jerry Baustian

    If you want the other side of the news, the liberal slant on the news, the news as created for the networks by the New York Times, then watch NBC or ABC or CBS or CNN or MSNBC.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Never happen brown shirt! You should join a Muslim cult and learn inner peace!

  • Anonymous

    I completely agree that Fox News saw and filled an open slot in the market. Brilliant. Seriously. It is a brilliant move, to counter program what had been the painful status quo. Granted, they basically lifted it from Paddy Chayefsky, but it works.

    As far as the overall news market, Fox is not a massive player. They certainly have the highest ratings, but that should be measured against the sum of all of the rest of the networks, based on your delineation.

    As far as the entertainment outlets, Fox is a middle of the pack player that is growing into a major player. They still need to round it out some.

    Their real powerhouse is the sports division. They own most of everything, and have done so carefully. They also provide top quality game coverage, so it seems right that they are first. The local Marlins games are on the local Fox (FSN Florida) and I have zero complaints.

    Thus far, this entire thing is pretty much just an interesting story. No US operation has been implicated in any way, shape manner or form. It seems pretty much to be just the UK thus far. The only thing we do know is that Murdoch has apologized ad infinatum the last couple of days for the hacking involving the kidnapped and murdered little girl. Thus, that part of this story is obviously accurate.

    I think we have to wait and see where it all leads. It is obvious there is more here than just some hacking. Two top law enforcement figures resigning suddenly is not a function of coincidence. But, we shall have to wait and see.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: A basic catch on a baseball field and the
    throwing out of a base runner at first base can be seen from many angles when
    close play is made but much different outcomes happen with a single call. Thus
    each viewer states that they themselves made the right call of safe or even
    calling out on the runner at first base makes a big difference on how the game
    is reported as an example of a news item. Lazy no it’s not. Always asking the
    ref with the blocked view of the plate yes it is. Right wing propaganda no it’s
    not. Called differently than the liberal MSM stations yes it is.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: The fact remains the same and it’s right after my call sign. The fact!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: If nothing turns up just make sure the ones that asked for it pay for it and I have no problem with it!

  • Anonymous

    The “leftwing slant” was invented by the right “newsertainment”.  News was unbiased, journalists had intregrity.  LBJ, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush and Clinton were treated pretty much equally.  The news championed the good and called out the bad.  

    Then rightwing ‘news’ was created and they started calling mainstream media ‘liberal’: two things happened.  Conservatives began to believe the false accusations (creating bigger ratings) and mainstream media tried to imitate the formula which created so-called liberal news shows.

    Now there is liberal bias to some ‘news / opinion’ shows, but the so called “main-stream media” is still closer to the center than the right believes or would have you believe.

  • Anonymous

    It really is quite ridiculous for one of Murdoch’s properties to whine.

    “Stop picking on us” considering the bashing for profit they’ve done for years.

  • Anonymous

    LOL!!! oh, the Dad touch was just great!

  • Anonymous

    Murdoch spoke to the news editors on at the very least a weekly level, and probably much more frequently.  The editor who has been charged with the crimes has been described as his “surrogate daughter.” He and she were neighbors. He also had an exceptionally active role in every right-wing nut-job news organization he owned, from News of the World to the New York Post to the formerly legitiimate Wall Street Journal.  He approved the expenses, including the $130k to the private investigator who did the actual hacking. 

    Anybody who believes he knew nothing needs to go buy swampland in Florida. 

  • Jerry Baustian

    Fishchef: if you can’t see it, then you won’t believe me when I tell you it’s there. Or that it’s been there since at least the 70′s.

  • Mathmatix BN

    Fact: Putting “Fact:” before everything you write, brings your credibility into question.  If you have to declare every statement you type fact, you’re watering down what is meant to imply a level of credibility. 

    Its like repeating the big lie often enough, but in your case you just put “fact:” prefacing your big lie or spin.

  • Mathmatix BN

    I fail to see where I mentioned US 9/11 victims.  I was referring to 9/11 victims in general.  being that 9/11 included a number of UK victims, and there have been confirmed reports of their phones and messages being hacked.  But okay, how about the 7/7 victims?  At what point are my “Baseless accusations” that have been reported, independently and leading to arrests of editors and resignations of politicians and policemen, considered credible for discussion?

    And if you’ll go back and notice, the post I was replying too initially basically brushed this off as listening the voice mails of moral midgets as ho-hum.  So as Hugh Grant is one of the victims, what crass stereotype do you, or the post I replied too, have for description of Milly Dowler?  And what if it isn’t limited to the other side of the pond, what then?

    I stand by my previous statements and fail to see how they’re “baseless accusations” but maybe thats my problem.  Maybe I can’t achieve the willful ignorance that you set the bar because I have the nerve to not let political party or media affiliation cloud my view about what is wrong. 

    /Have a Great day

  • Mathmatix BN

    So its a fact that Muslims achieve inner peace?

  • http://www.facebook.com/bruce.kennedy3 Bruce Kennedy

    “Citizen Murdoch”  “Throws Mud”

  • Jerry Baustian

    Sorry, Mathmatix, I don’t even recall responding to you or addressing your baseless accusations. But maybe I did. I believe I have referred, in general, to somewhat indiscriminate charges that the voicemails of 9/11 victims may have been hacked. “May have been” is the key.

  • Anonymous

    Of course it is no coincidence!

    Murdoch heads up a fascist propaganda empire that spans the English speaking world, indoctrinating the ignorant with half-truths and outright lies, while promoting fascist politicians and war everywhere.  This is bound to irritate some people.

    This lack of ethical standards flows from the top and may or may not take the same form in every country under Murdoch’s fascist heel (I have no evidence whatever that Fox USA has been hacking people or bribing cops, but only an indoctrinated idiot would rule that out at this point.)  But if Fox stopped routinely spinning, telling provable lies, and providing in kind campaign contributions to every fascist politician in the country, Media Matters would have a whole lot less to write about.

    There used to be conservatives in this country who would find it demeaning to defend – or be defended by – habitual liars.  Today’s conservatives have so little faith in the justice of the POV they hold and Fox promotes, so they lap up the lies, pretend they have equal weight to the truth – and pretend it is all about free speech.

  • Anonymous

    Applying this standard to British tabloids could turn payments made as
    part of traditional news-gathering into criminal acts. The Wall Street
    Journal doesn’t pay sources for information, but the practice is common
    elsewhere in the press, including in the U.S.From the WSJ editorial:

    “… could turn payments made as
    part of traditional news-gathering into criminal acts.” 

    Bribing the cops is pretty much a criminal act everywhere you go.  Laughable spin.

    Boiling it down, that’s what the entire editorial is.

  • Anonymous

    RIP conservative party of hate, lies, bigotry, and crime. from tricky dick nixon to rupert murdoch and fox news

      1968-2011.

    the world will be better off with you gone.

  • Anonymous

    You mean like Santa Claus or God?  Maybe if I clap real hard fairies won’t die!

  • Jerry Baustian

    UnEasy, you are probably right about payments to policemen. I suppose we like to think that cops today are not nearly so corrupt as they were in the past, and that may be true because they are well-paid and have generous pensions. 

    But news organizations everywhere pay for information and pay for stories. I was surprised to learn that ABC News paid $200,000 to Casey Anthony for her story and for family photographs… two years ago! Not a police official, but still a person involved in a criminal case.

    There are many ways that news organizations pay informants. For instance, they might ask someone for an interview, and the interviewee asks for payment. The news organization might say, We can’t pay you; but they could pay a few thousand dollars for the privilege of parking their van in the driveway.

    As for the editorial, it is a defense of the Journal, not of the culprits in England who worked for News of the World.

  • Jerry Baustian

    Liberal media bias can be seen in the softball questions lobbed at Democratic politicians and the hostile ones directed at Republicans. 

    It can be seen in the choice of stories that make it on the newscast or the front page of a paper. 

    It can be seen in the choice of “experts” who are invited to offer an opinion on an event which has just happened. 

    It can be seen when the writers of news stories are allowed to include their own opinions, and they are not reprimanded, and then other writers are allowed to get away with this on a regular basis.

    It can be seen when former Democratic staffers and campaign staffers are hired to host news programs, and fail to maintain an appropriate level of impartiality.

    it can be seen when the same words or phrases show up in a dozen stories on all the networks, indicating that they are all relying on the DNC talking points. It is simply easier for them to do this instead of having to write real news stories using original research.

    It can be seen when anchors think they can create phony documents and get away with it. Or when producers can fabricate phony data to support a story. Or when they commission a phony opinion poll, to support a thesis which has no basis in fact.

    It can be seen most clearly when an entire network sets out to sell a particular idea, and does not permit a fair hearing for contrary facts or opinions.

  • Anonymous

    Liberal media bias can be seen in the softball questions lobbed at Democratic politicians and the hostile ones directed at Republicans.
    The opposite is true.

    It can be seen in the choice of stories that make it on the newscast or the front page of a paper.
    The opposite is true.

    It can be seen in the choice of “experts” who are invited to offer an opinion on an event which has just happened.
    The opposite is true.

    It can be seen when the writers of news stories are allowed to include their own opinions, and they are not reprimanded, and then other writers are allowed to get away with this on a regular basis.
    Not true. Often the opposite is true.

    It can be seen when former Democratic staffers and campaign staffers are hired to host news programs, and fail to maintain an appropriate level of impartiality.
    The opposite is often true.

    it can be seen when the same words or phrases show up in a dozen stories on all the networks, indicating that they are all relying on the DNC talking points. It is simply easier for them to do this instead of having to write real news stories using original research.
    The opposite is true.

    It can be seen when anchors think they can create phony documents and get away with it. Or when producers can fabricate phony data to support a story. Or when they commission a phony opinion poll, to support a thesis which has no basis in fact.
    Again, the opposite is true.

    It can be seen most clearly when an entire network sets out to sell a particular idea, and does not permit a fair hearing for contrary facts or opinions.
    Very true for Fox News.

    Addendum: Negative stories about Republicans are posted on the front page, and their party affiliation is prominent. Negative stories about Democrats are buried on P17 and their party affiliation is mentioned at the end or not at all.
    I find the opposite to be true.
    Kinda funny how we see things differently.

  • Anonymous

    How sad. Once upon a time the WSJ was considered a fine newspaper. Now all they can do is rush to the defense – however flimsy – when their master is attacked. For shame.

  • http://twitter.com/BriereBear J.J. Zucal

    Faux Noise won’t go away, but it will be damaged just by association

    “… British tabloids have been known for decades for buying scoops and digging up dirt on the famous.”  But they didn’t run to the police!

    “Lunatic Loony left …?”  Does the true hurt?

  • http://twitter.com/BriereBear J.J. Zucal

    New York Post, the day after: Page 35, after the daily “Obama Sucks” op-ed rant.  At least Faux Noise and Faux Business realized they had to carry the committee hearings or it would be too obvious they want everything to go away.  Faux Noise won’t go away, but it will be damaged due to the association with News Corporation/News International.

  • Jerry Baustian

    Why should we care about the opinions of someone who does not know how to spell FOX?

  • avengingangel

    So, Tina, when the company does well, the CEO gets the credit – and the huge bonus. And when the company does something truly terrible – the CEO says, “Oh, I certainly didn’t know anything about it.”  If you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to talk with you about.

  • Anonymous

    Have you recovered fully from your lobotomy?

  • Anonymous

    Have you recovered fully from your lobotomy?

  • Anonymous

    Have you recovered fully from your lobotomy?

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