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Bob Beckel Makes A Scathing Christian Case Against Tim Tebow On Hannity

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Football player Tim Tebow found himself the center of tonight’s conversation on Hannity‘s Great American Panel, but despite his football and Christian credentials– both things that make him a positive figure in Sean Hannity‘s eyes– he did not escape getting a tongue-lashing from someone in the panel: Bob Beckel, who found the conflation of faith and football “despicable.”

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The panel began with a discussion on Tebow’s image, in which panelist Rebecca St. James argued that he was a good role model, which actor Jay Thomas disagreed with: “I have no interest in my sons being like Tim Tebow.” The conversation then veered towards the benefits of premarital sex (St. James is an advocate of waiting until marriage; Thomas prefers to “test drive” his cars before buying them, if you know what he means), when Beckel burst into the conversation. “Back to Tebow for a minute– I find it despicable that they would put Jesus on the back of an NFL jersey… he is the one and the only one that matters in this world and the idea of bringing that to the level of the NFL,” he griped, adding that someone on The Five earlier today had claimed “Jesus must’ve been in the locker room with Tim Tebow, this is ridiculous.” The panel disagreed, with St. James reminding Beckel that Tebow was not the one putting “Jesus” on NFL jerseys, but fans. The conversation once again turning back to premarital sex, Beckel quipped, “Does anybody think Tim Tebow didn’t have sex [before joining the NFL]?”

Figuring out what was going on in this clip was a bit difficult for this blogger, as some of us who follow politics have a hard time understanding this Tim Tebow– he is not running for president and does something called “sports.” A more thorough analysis from our pals at Sportsgrid seem to suggest he is a football player whose only discernible characteristic as a football player are that he is a Christian, and this is the source of much of his popularity. He first made political headlines when his mother did a Focus on the Family ad expressing gratitude for his birth. Subsequently, he has become something of a lightning rod because some people claim he is a bad football player, while others chalk up the criticism to his over-the-top displays of faith. He also does something called “Tebowing,” which a quick Google search defines as “to get down on a knee and start praying, even if everyone else around you is doing something completely different” (in which case, my abuela has been “Tebowing” every time someone says something mean about the Pope since the mid-1970s).

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Beckel did neither tonight, however, which appears to break new ground in the debate on Tebow’s cultural significance in America. Instead of either defending his First Amendment rights or bashing his football skills, he turned to the idea that Tebow’s effusive expressions of faith are a major factor contributing to his price as a player– it makes him lucrative because it drives a certain type of individual to tune in and cheer for him, to buy tickets and memorabilia. And that, Beckel argues, is no different than profiting off of the faith itself. It is an argument far more akin to, say, the arguments against Rick Perry‘s “Strong” ad than anything sports-related– a plea to not use God in any of his forms for personal gain, rather than a ribbing for being obnoxious with displays of belief in a benign way. And as the most political argument made against Tebow so far, it may be the most effective in both grabbing people’s attention who would otherwise prefer not to know things about sports and the most effective argument against allowing Tebow to accrue capital with which to influence popular culture.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/anil.hanagud Anil Hanagud

    Time Tebow is an idiot whose ego makes him think that Jesus would choose to support him and help him win a game of football over others who may also believe in Him. It’s ridiculous to think that God takes sides in sports. Such silliness!

  • http://twitter.com/cynicalmode randy

    Could we please stop saying that Tim Tebow gets criticized because he’s a christian. Conservative christian victimization syndrome is so damn annoying. It’s not like the NFL is riddled with swarms of atheists.

  • Anonymous

    The funny part is teabaggers believe God is helping them win football games.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    There is nothing wrong with what tim is Doing. BFD your comment is below you.

    Tim giving thanks to his lord is nothing new in pro sports. Being a christian and by all accounts living like one is not a crime either. As far as I can tell he has done nothing to show he is a bad role model. As far as God helping him win football games. I really don’t think God cares about football. I think Tim probably knows that. I have no idea what Tim is praying for. Who says it’s to win the game. Perhaps he is just praying that he does his best and that nobody gets hurt or whatever. I have watched a few Bronco games and I could care less what Tim is doing on the sideline. but as a a football fan I guess I am to busy watchig the game. Oh and as a Raider fan I find myself praying for a loss ;)

    But Tim is doing nothing wrong and why people keep tearing him down for his faith is beyond me.  You want to tear him down because it seems that for 55 min of every game he plays he is a below average QB then by all means. But it seems most just wnat to see him fail because of his faith and that is just sad.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKEQSTA4WOBYU5Z7QNSBUR2LXI MASSMURDERMEDIA

    you’re an idiot for believing such…  he doesn’t think god is taking his side and has never, ever said so…  he merely uses his faith for confidence to succeed, and his teammates are buying into it…  even an atheist like me can see this…  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    I don’t like the fans putting Jesus on the back of the jerseys. It is sort of stupid

  • Anonymous

    Tim Tebow has made it clear that he does not believe that God is involved in any manner with the success that the Bronco’s are experiencing…  He has clearly stated that he does not pray to god for outcomes of games. He has said that he feels that his abilities are a gift from god and for that he must be thankful and give the glory of his success to god. There is nothing wrong with Tebow taking a moment to express his faith, I did not see many people protesting the ridiculous in-zone dances a few years back that covered a broad range from just plain silly to almost pornographic.  

    Why is it that expression of faith is so offensive, Tebow has done good work in his efforts in the Florida prison systems while in college to his work in the Philippines where he has spent most of his summers working to help bring medical assistance to people who would otherwise not receive it.  I am not a religious person, but I can still respect Tebow for his devotion to his faith and his principled approach to his life.  Would you rather that he devote his life to hookers, partying, and drugs, would that be easier for people to accept?

  • Anonymous

    Typical response from someone who obviously knows zero about the topic. Tebow has never suggested anything close towhat you are accusing him of…which makes you the clear idiot. Maybe you should spend a little more time learning about the subject at hand and a little less time with the ignorant knee jerk reactions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    Would also like to see how many couples end up in a broken relationships because they have only been with each other. I know a lot of guys and girls who have trouble dealing with the fact their husband or wives or boyfriends or girlfriends have slept around.

    This test driving this is BS and does nothing to strengthen a relationship.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKEQSTA4WOBYU5Z7QNSBUR2LXI MASSMURDERMEDIA

    arian foster, my favorite player, celebrates each of his touchdowns with some sort of hindu prayer gesture…  no one has made a peep about this, and rightly so…  maybe someday in this country christians might be able to enjoy their first amendment rights…

  • Troy Knight

    I have to agree with Bob on this one

  • Anonymous

    I tend to disagree with your assessment of the situation. Personally, I don’t think sports and religion are a good mix.  I think he goes overboard, but he is sincere in his beliefs.  Not the worst thing in the world.

  • Anonymous

    Not only has Tebow never said that, he goes to great length to make it clear he doesn’t think god cares about football games. 

  • Anonymous

    Everyone plays the victim now. It’s the way to get ahead in today’s society.

    What you’re talking about does happen, but people literally hate on Tebow just because of his religion. It’s a different thing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    No but it seems that the main reason people don’t like him or hope he fails seems to be due to his faith.

  • Anonymous

    Then you, like Bob are extremely ignorant. Tebow has nothing to do with putting jesus on the back of jerseys. And, I seriously doubt he approves. He’s an extremely humble guy. 

  • http://twitter.com/cynicalmode randy

    really? or is that just how the some are spinning it. i dont like tebow because i’m a charger fan & speaking of the chargers, Philip Rivers is a devout catholic & when people criticize him i NEVER hear people complaining it’s because he’s a catholic.

  • Anonymous

    Hey ladies, are you ready for Jay Thomas to take a test drive on you?  

  • Anonymous

    Your posts used to be mildly interesting and sometimes funny.  Now, they’re just odd, factually incorrect and monotonous.  Look everybody, BFD said “teabaggers” (again).  Hahahaha. 

  • Anonymous

    AFC South Champs!

  • Anonymous

    When you hear someone say “I hate Tebow”, ask them why.  The response is always the same in that there is no resonse.  It’s irrational hatred that’s impossible to describe. 

  • Christian Bruun

    I can’t help but think that the whole Tebow debate is completely manufactured by the media. I was at U. of Alabama when Tebow was at Florida and no one cared about his faith or criticized him for it. We hated him because he was a great college QB who played for a rival (though the crying at the Conference Championship game was a little obnoxious). Now I don’t like him because he represents how overrated the QB position can be. He is a terrible NFL QB (his skill set is not compatible with it-he is an awful passer) and is getting all the credit for what his defense, running backs and kicker have accomplished. And when I say I hate him let me make this clear, it is nothing personally against him. It is what we sports fans do. It is that he is hailed as the hero when it is others who deserve the credit. I am sure he is a good guy. I have yet to hear a sports fan say they hate him for his open Christianity. I hear plenty of them say they do for the reasons I gave.

  • Anonymous

    You’re right.  He’s got 11 TD’s vs. 2 Int’s and he’s won 6 straight & 7 of 8.  They were 1-4 when he was named the starter & now they’re 8-5.  They had the same defense in those first 5 games.  But, he’s terrible.  Really.  He is.  The Broncos are something like 4-13 in games he hasn’t started and 9-3 in games he has started in the 2 seasons he’s been there.  But, he’s turrible.

  • R P

    I think that if you are a follower of Christ, that should influence and be evident in EVERY part of your life… so if you are a football player, “religion” and sports is a great mix!

  • 12voltman1

    Tim Tebow. You love him or you hate him . There is no middle ground with Tim. It will be interesting and exciting see what he can do this week when he has to play Tom Brady/Bill  
    Parcell and the Patriots.Will see if he can Pull it off at the last minute again. Feaking amazing!

  • Ryan Callahan

    Yeah, I’m an Atheist and love Tim Tebow, best college QB of all time. It is all the media. I disagree he is a garbage QB, he is a winner.

  • R P

    That would be because the criticisms of Rivers are not in regards to his faith. The criticisms of Tebow ARE crticisms of his faith, and how he chooses to live it.

  • Christian Bruun

    Yeah and how many passes has he completed? They don’t throw the ball for a reason.

  • 12voltman1

    My dad use to be a high school football coach. There was this priest who always wanted to come into the locker room to say a prayer before the game.My dad thought he was kind of strange. Later this priest was convicted of molesting children in his church.Creepy!

  • http://twitter.com/cynicalmode randy

    ok. if that’s true then why dont people criticize rivers because of his faith? what’s so different.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PKEQSTA4WOBYU5Z7QNSBUR2LXI MASSMURDERMEDIA

    bulls on parade!…  welcome to the slaughterhouse!…

  • http://twitter.com/Decamped The Dude

    Jesus Christ that woman was obnoxious.

  • Anonymous

    Why the hell is Eddie LeBec on Hannity?

  • Anonymous

    21 this week including 18 in the 4th quarter alone.  Over the last 3 games he’s completed 40 out of 73.  I don’t know if you follow the games but they’re throwing the ball a lot more than they did earlier.  Broncos WR’s also had 6 dropped passes this week.  FYI:  I have Tebow as my QB on one of my fantasy teams – that’s why I know the numbers. 

  • Anonymous

    Im an atheist as well and I cant stand Denver. However I must say watching Denver do what they have done the last 7 weeks has been a blast. I don’t care if he’s religious, he seems like a nice guy,maybe not the best QB of all time but he is winning. He may change how the NFL thinks a QB should perform. Or he may get his ass planted and concussed on his next attempted run. Thats what makes sports interesting!

  • http://www.myspace.com/miraclelurker Alice67

    I like snow globes.

  • Anonymous

    It was the loudest I’ve ever heard it against ATL.  Gonna be crazy Sunday. 

  • Anonymous

    “He may change how the NFL thinks a QB should perform. Or he may get his ass planted and concussed on his next attempted run. Thats what makes sports interesting!”

    So true.

  • 12voltman1

    Ok. That’s Interesting. Please tell me more.

  • Anonymous

    Beckel didn’t make a scathing case. He could barely get a word out before being stepped on. And that’s sad because he’s right.

    The idea that Christ, the Lord and Savior of all of humanity, is in some way being invoked by a bunch of Christian football fans because a quarterback is leading his team to improbable wins is obscene. Like Christ would have nothing better to do? Like Christ would manifest himself in this world to help someone win football games instead of helping women around the world (and in America’s own military) from being brutalized and raped? Like Christ would rather be involved in a Broncos game than be out saving children from dying of AIDS? It’s insane. It’s myopic. It’s un-Christian.

  • http://www.facebook.com/anil.hanagud Anil Hanagud

    I do apologize. It was indeed a knee jerk reaction without full knowledge of the subject. But, I do think that like sex, religion/faith/prayers should be kept private. It’s weird if it’s out in public.

  • Anonymous

    So why does he do it on the field, unless he wants OTHER people to see it? Why can’t he pray in private in his locker room?

  • Anonymous

    Yup. 

  • Anonymous

    It’s because of how he broadcasts his “faith.” Overt shows of religiosity are bound to rub people the wrong way. I will go and guess if Tebow was a Muslim and kneeling down to face Mecca before every game, you would hate it. I know I would. Keep your damn religions out of sports. This is one of the few things that unite us all.

  • Anonymous

    Very many actually. You are more likely to cheat if you haven’t experienced “others” than if you have..especially when the wife doesn’t put out. 

  • Anonymous

    I agree with Jay. 

  • Anonymous

    Because nobody outside of the 619 gives a shit about Rivers.

  • Anonymous

    I know. She probably doesn’t put out either. I feel sorry for the dude who bangs her.

  • Anonymous

    Well put man! 

  • Anonymous

    Nine out of every ten sports athletes thank God when they are interviewed after a win.  And then there’s Muhammad Ali. . .

  • Anonymous

    Fair enough…but most fans don’t watch interviews. Also, it can be argued that a good chunk of those “Thank God” praises are just rhetorical. Again, why can’t he just pray in private? Sounds to me like there’s an effort to proselytize.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_36BD4PJPSMELQCCUYBXPJKJ5OY Mega

    Wait, I’ve been hearing about this Tim Tebow guy, or at least just his name getting mentioned in a lot of news nowadays, but is the fact that the dude is a Christian seriously the main distinguishing trait from other football player this guy has? I mean, is THAT why he’s mentioned at all to begin with?

    I don’t follow sports, so serious question.

  • shonangreg

    How can there be any doubt about this from either side? Non-Christians don’t care for it. And on the Christian side, you have this:

    Matthew 6:5 and 6:6:

    “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray
    standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men.
    I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.”
    “But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your
    Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in
    secret, will reward you.”

  • Anonymous

    I find Bob Beckel very despicable and Tim Tebow very inspiring!

  • Anonymous

    As always, I hesitate to disagree with Frances ‘Poli Sci Degree’ Martel, super intellect, but I must. 

    The article is complete and utter bs. From beginning to end. First, to say Tebow’s only ‘discernible characteristic’ as a player is he’s Christian is…to put it mildly, asinine. You think he was courted by every big school out of high school because he’s Christian? You think he was a first round draft pick in the NFL draft because he’s Christian? The NFL doesn’t care if you worship satan, torture dogs to death or shoot strippers, as long as you can play. Tim is an incredible player with a list of accomplishments a mile long, including a national championship while at Florida, and a Heisman trophy. Know any bad football players who’ve won a Heisman and are a 1st round pick? Tebow is a big sports story today because he’s taken the Broncos from 1-4 to 8-5, nearly all his wins in incredible last minute comebacks.

    Tebow doesn’t have ‘over the top’ displays of faith. He quietly kneels on the sidelines to pray, like many other players do. Religion in sports, especially the NFL and MLB is nothing new. It’s common for the members of both teams to form a prayer circle after a game. The reason it drives people crazy when Tebow does it is, in part, because he’s white, imo. Black players never get criticized for such displays. But, why Tebow is a story is because he really seems to walk the walk. He’s extremely polite and humble. The antithesis, in many ways, of today’s superstar athletes. In interviews, he routinely replies with ‘yes, sir, no, sir’. Also, Tebow never gets angry at all the hate directed at him, even when they do it in his face. 

    He is, to put it simply, a very very very nice guy. He’s not out shooting up clubs and being accused of groping women. He’s precisely who you would dream your daughter would marry-which says a world about that has-been loser Jay on Hannity. He also claims he’s a virgin. Why in the world would Beckel think he’s lying about that? It’s got to be hard to admit that-embarrassing even for a good looking sports star like Tebow to say that. And, 

  • Anonymous

    Bob Fatty Arbeckel wants Tebow’s wood. It’s that simple, and that sick.

  • Anonymous

    Was Beckel Sober?  Tebow’s on the field getting it done making millions and Beckel’s still a fat drunk. Have to agree w/Stoneyjack, Tebow makes Beckle hard.

  • Gloves J. Donahue

    “… Tim Tebow– he is not running for president and does something called “sports.”

    Funny. Kind of like Jeff Gordon, who is either really well liked or really despised.

  • Pablo

    If it’s so weirdly public, why don’t you know what he’s said in public?

    “First of all, I’d just like to thank my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ…and my teammates.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eb6QCGfmz8

    He’s shoving God right down your throat, isn’t he?

  • Pablo

    Do you know what the word “Evangelical” means? Yes, he wants to share his faith with the world.

    Why should he hide it?

  • Pablo

    Parcells? Um, it’s 2011. Belichick.

    That said, The Pats had their hands full with the freaking Redskins on Sunday. If they aren’t healthy in the secondary, anything is possible.

  • Pablo

    Hey, the 805 cares! Seriously, I’m a displaced Bolts fan and I didn’t know Rivers was religious at all, let alone devout. 

  • Pablo

    So you just can’t bear watching him take a knee after a good play instead of jumping up and down or chest bumping somebody? It sounds like you need to get over yourself.

  • Pablo

    Do you have anything to back that up?

  • Pablo

    He’s also learning on the job, while simultaneously winning. For basically a rookie, that’s a great spot to be in. Most rookie QB’s get pummeled and lose a lot.

    You can learn to throw. You can’t learn to lead a team.

  • Pablo

    That’s not Tebow’s fault, though.

  • Pablo

    No, the biggest thing is that he took a lousy team over and they’ve been winning since. He was not supposed to be able to make that happen.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JC25VZ7V3BAAPNJ5C3R3YIP3WI j

    Tebow makes a few comments about his Lord Jesus Christ.  He does not preach. He does not force his  believe on anyone.  He actually is rather somber about his religion.  Many others in sports thank God publicly but suffer no backlash. Yet, there are those that find fault with for his belief.  It is those that exploit religion for their own negative purposes. Odd.

  • Anonymous

    With too many in sports making the news for lying, cheating, drug use, dog killing, child molestation and  murder, and with too many fans taking it all in stride, it’s no wonder an athlete with a positive attitude and message cathches flak. Those who have a problem with Tebrow’s religious slant would be the same ones who STFU if he were throwing down a prayer rug.

  • Anonymous

    Because it’s really, really boring

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIUTYRY4RUDL2KNY63S3DF5HWE Ironhenge

    You’re not wrong but this has nothing to do with Tebow. Beckel assumes way too much here, he is not profiting off of his faith, the man actually builds hospitals in third world country’s with his own money. He is also on record saying that he does not believe that God intervenes in football games.

    I am not really all that religious but to be afraid of a genuinely uplifting human being who does real good in the world and promotes a positive message for kids is the height of cynicism. Whether you think sports players should be role models for kids or not is irrelevant they always have been and they always will be.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UIUTYRY4RUDL2KNY63S3DF5HWE Ironhenge

    Beckel assumes way too much here, he is not profiting off of his faith, the man actually builds hospitals in third world countries with his own money. He is also on record saying that he does not believe that God intervenes in football games and that he is simply giving thanks. He should be impugned and ridiculed for such audacity!!!
     
    I am not really all that religious but to be afraid of a genuinely uplifting human being who does real good in the world and promotes a positive message for kids is the height of cynicism. Whether you think sports players should be role models for kids or not is irrelevant they always have been and they always will be.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JC25VZ7V3BAAPNJ5C3R3YIP3WI j

    Becket portrays his irresponsible alcoholic days as some sort of badge of honor.  When he enjoys reminiscing about his falling down drunk days he does it as if others should see him as some sort of hero or in a way special because he was a Sot.

  • Anonymous

    I just love seeing the bigotry of libs.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JC25VZ7V3BAAPNJ5C3R3YIP3WI j

    What would the NFL prefer as the face of the league to have as its ideal representation of the game?  A Football Spiking Jive Dancing in the End Zone Self Absorbed Gangsta Type or Tebow?

  • Pablo

    Then don’t listen to him.

  • Anonymous

    Tebow builds orphanages… Bob screws whores… case closed.

  • Anonymous

    I think Bill Parcells is in the front office of the Jets??? Not the Pats??? I’m not sure on that one?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    Yeah I call BS on that one.

  • http://www.facebook.com/codemon Cody Hill

    Does this shit really matter? You got racist Republicans trying to ride the wave of anti-immigrant sentiment and Muslim terrorist paranoia to the presidency and all we can discuss is sports!!!

  • http://twitter.com/ZonaCumia Zona

    So God is against the teams Tebow beat?  If he was a muslim, would you want him screaming Allah U Akbar everytime he threw a completed pass? Hannity, would he be a good role model then?  Serious question.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J7A4WQXTWWIGLHCGKEK67CJWKA Janet

    What would you like to ride the wave of?  Did you know the shooter in Hollywood shouted Allah Akbar while he was firing at motorists and pedestrians the other day, and one victim he shot in the neck has now died?  Didn’t hear that in the mainstream media, did you?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J7A4WQXTWWIGLHCGKEK67CJWKA Janet

    The liberal’s true agenda is coming out loud and clear.  They are anti-religion and anti-morality.  You have to try out your future spouse before you marry her?  Good message to send to kids now days, Sparky.  This country is doomed unless the whole media is replaced by sane, moral people, and I don’t see that happening.

  • Anonymous

    Of course not. I never mentioned Tebow.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t have a problem with Tebow helping poor kids, and, also as a non-religious (even anti-religious) person, I don’t even have a problem if he does it in the name of Jesus. More power to him.

    As I wanted to say to Pablo above, the problem isn’t Tebow: it’s the sycophantic and crass followers of Tebow who associate his success with his belief in Christ, using it in some kind of self-congratulatory, proselytizing message about Christianity.

  • Pablo

    He was last seen with the Dolphins, ESPN work excepted. He left the Pats in 1997.

  • Pablo

    So God is against the teams Tebow beat?

    No. Just the Raiders. Pay attention.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_76F7SAA3N35X4IBY5BGVQML2YM James

    Well figure this one out Mr. Blogger: the current President of the United States was put in office with less vetting than an NFL QB and with less of a call for qualifications.

    That’s why the country’s being run by the equivalent of an NFL team with a QB who’s a real nice guy. 0-16 record but a real nice guy.

  • Anonymous

    mmm…cause this is America.

  • Anonymous

    Just thought I would add this thought.  I personally don’t think Tebow will last in the NFL. Once the defensive co-ordinators watch more game film, his production and wins will dissapate. I really don’t think his style of play will win championships.

    On the bright side, he is PERFECT for the Canadian game, with his ability to run, scramble and pass on the run.   It’s only a matter of time before he is up here, just like Doug Flutie, dominating our game.

  • Anonymous

    Like I said.  Football, religion and politics don’t mix.

  • http://twitter.com/Nuktubian Andy

    If Tim bowed toward Mecca, or went on about his Buddism — his current detractors would be going on about how ‘progressive’ and ‘inclusive’ the NFL is.

    The left-wing communist-loving crowd see Christianity as a threat to it’s own existence and delusions of grandeur. Just ask the former ruling commies of the USSR about that damn crazy Pope that put it in the heads the Eastern Block people that they can find hope and salvation in JC, and escape their progressive paradise. 

    Tim deserves the scorn he is getting. damn him and his feeding and clothing the hungry — on his own time and dime. That’s the damn government’s job, dontcha know?

  • 12voltman1

    My bad. I always think of Parcelsl when I think of the Pats!
    Beichich is also one hell of a coach.

  • 12voltman1

    Wow, its been that long? Seems like yesterday.

  • http://twitter.com/Nuktubian Andy

    The more deviant the behavior, the more respect on the left thou shall accumulate.

    Ask Roman Polanski. 

  • Anonymous

    I am a Bronco fan.  And I can’t stand Tebow.  I appreciate that the TEAM has turned around.  But I hate that Tebow can’t play worth a lick for the first 57 minutes of a game.  It has nothing to do with religion and it is a completely rational hatred.  If Denver’s D can’t stop Tom Brady, Tebow showing up with 3 minutes of game time left isn’t going to get the Broncos a W on Sunday.

  • http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs322.snc3/28695_104339339610961_100001046869519_36793_4471129_n.jpg COB™

    Ask anyone working in Manhattan if they fear another Muslim terrorist strike after 9/11 -You bet your ass Cody!

    Btw: nice pic on your FB page of you huffing a bong. -Wow Man!!

  • Anonymous

    Praise the Lord and pass the football.
    Tim Tebow is a hero in the eyes of God and you can’t beat that!!
    Amen!

  • Anonymous

    I don’t, but neither does Eric Larson. It’s the funny thing about opinions. ;)

  • Anonymous

    I do. It must be a euphemism for “dumb Christian” I suppose if you were to go by the words and actions of some of their leaders ie. Franklin Graham, Pat Robertson et al. I didn’t say he had to hide and pray, but, there’s a big difference between prayer in privacy and prayer in front of millions of people..especially football fans. The gesture seizes being personal. He has a motive for doing so. He needs to realize that most people are more interested in his play, not his religion. He can showcase his religiosity in the public sphere on CBN if he cares so much about it. Keep it out of the goddamn football field. Also, I do HATE other buffoonish displays on the field by OTHER players. So this criticism is not restricted to Tebow’s. It’s a free country however. He can do it, and I can criticize him for it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Hubbard/1276400123 Charles Hubbard

    If JESUS is on the back of any jersey… there better be a #1 below the Name!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Charles-Hubbard/1276400123 Charles Hubbard

    If God wanted Tim Tebow to win every game… Tim would win every game. If God wanted Tim to play good for 4 quarters… God could have Tim play good for 4 quarters.

    God wants a certain popular Christian QB to HONOR HIM and stop honoring the name of the pagan goddess NIKE… the pagan goddess still worshipped today in Paganism… but a certain popular Christian QB won’t stop because he has free will. 

    So do you really think God wants that QB to win every game so NIKE (the company that QB promotes) can sell more products? 

    NO WAY!

  • Anonymous

    Muslims & Jews Defend Tim Tebow’s Dedication to His Faith

    There’s something about Tim Tebow. He’s certainly a stellar
    football player, but the intrigue that surrounds the 24-year-old
    transcends his athletic abilities and taps into more deeply-rooted
    issues. People of all faiths are starting to take notice of Tebow’s
    unabashed love for God and his willingness to be open about what his
    devotion to the Almighty means in his life.

    Plus, over the past few months, the more his critics mock his faith, the better he performs on the field. On Sunday, he led his team to its sixth straight win. His open faith teamed with continued success has led to attention both in the media and among faith leaders.
    MORE: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/muslims-jews-defend-tim-tebows-dedication-to-his-faith/

  • Anonymous

    Any Yankee fan knows Mariano Rivera does virtually the same stuff Tebow gets attacked for, so why is this so new?  I wish all players were as nice people as he is, whatever their religion or lack thereof…. 

  • shonangreg

    Do you think the guy who said this is an idiot for saying such?

    And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

    But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

    Matthew 6:5 and 6:6, Jesus Christ

  • shonangreg

    If he follows Christ, the reason should be obvious why he should keep it private:

    And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

    But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

    Matthew 6:5 and 6:6

    So, go ahead everyone who is supporting Tebow’s spectacles. Take down the guy who said the above words and raise up Tim Tebow instead. It may not be his intention, but that is the result.

  • http://twitter.com/Nietzschean John Smith

    It doesn’t matter whether the christian is sincere or not; he’ll be mocked either way–as stupid in the former case, hypocritical in the latter. Our culture is dominated by a certain disproportionately powerful segment of our elite that loathes and fears the christian majority in this country. In any case, Nietzsche famously observed that a joke was the epitaph on the death of an emotion; if he was right–and I think he was–just think what that says about what a decadent, diseased culture we’ve become. If you don’t have the right politics or a hip sneer for the hicks, then you’re one of the hicks. Signed, a non-christian.

  • Anonymous

    Though I respect and appreciate this comment, I think it is applied to the wrong circumstances.  Tim Tebow is merely giving God the credit for his success and being thankful in an unashamed manner. He does the same when he loses. ” All things work together for good to those who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose” What about the prayer huddles at the end of the games where players from both sides come together to give thanks? I think it’s just as humbling to the spectators to watch such powerful athletes humbly show their love and respect to the Lord and to one another.  What about when David danced before the Lord? That was a pretty big spectacle I think.  Matt. 6:5,6 talks about people using what should be an intimate time with the Lord to showcase their rightousness pridefully to glorify themselves before men.   The emphasis here I believe is one’s heart and motivation. Jesus also warned about being  ashamed of the Gospel before men.  There is a time to be alone with God and there is time to praise Him and what He has done before men; some examples in Psalm 100, Ps. 92.   I always pray that people like Tim who are in the limelight will stay strong in the Lord’s ways.  Eric Liddle faced the same scrutiny as a Christian Athlete who was outspoken and used his athleticism to reach others.  Time will tell how Tim Tebow’s faith walk endures.  As for me, I choose to support him in prayer.  He will need it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mr.tapeguy Craig Berlin

    A mature man would not bring his faith so blatantly into the world of sports and on top of that, everyone seems to forget he’s made it clear that non-believers go to Hell.  He seems to be a good guy and does charitable work and I respect that but his extremist views are not reasonable and I prefer religion to be a personal thing.  Furthermore, anyone who now criticizes his football performance is now branded anti-Christian or a leftist and that’s just bull.

  • Anonymous

    Or they are called “haters,” a favorite term used by the far right wingers in all of their infinite wisdom.

  • Anonymous

    Just the fact that some people think a God may favor one NFL team over another boggles my mind.
    I thought that was reserved for the other football? Or was it horse shoes? Corn hole http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CJMBEBYwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cornhole.com%2F&ei=d9ToTsuyEOrc0QG9_pCdCg&usg=AFQjCNFctAJQuIgvmYpWYLxFMtr8sq_8dQ&sig2=UyVvk1DWdIV2v4E_FjW6nQ ?

  • Anonymous

    True.  But haters don’t like facts, they just get in the way.   

  • Anonymous

    The man is praying for a moment, not doing a dance. Don’t attack anyone for how others perceive them, he is very humble human being, a rarity in this world and in sports in particular.  Refreshing.

  • Anonymous

    Because that is where he is at when he feels so grateful to God fat that moment.  Mariano Rivera, the Yankees closer, does this for years now, and no one’s ever cared.  So why exactly are all the crazies after Tebow for the same exact actions.   

  • Anonymous

    celestialhome gave a response to this, and it was very well-said.  Stop taking bible verse out of context.

  • Seth Reed

    You are a nut in no way is it your job to Judge anyone that is Gods job are job as christians is to love people. God does not love you anymore then the drunk bum on the street He loves us all the same. You have brought more attention to the pagan god nike then anyone. Tebow could care less about that. God has not told you to warn tebow or get his attention and he is not losing all the sudden because he is honoring nike. You are way off. I’m so sick of people saying God told me to tell you this. if you spent all the time you spend writing this crap on every website and article written about Tebow praying and really seeking God you would not be writing this garbage. Pray for tim that is fine but it’s not your job to correct him in front of everybody Tim is Genuine you my friend are off your rocker.

  • Anonymous

    You really need professional help, Charles. But, then, you already know that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OKJN45BDNJRS62DLJUA6ZDTYTY Epolite

    When it comes to faith I am pround to say I am in the minority faith is nothing more than I have the right to believe in a fairy tale.and regarding Bekel and Jaun Williams they are both a good reason for me to turn off the TV

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