It’s even odds they’d do better than the current crop of Democratic-Socialists we have running the country today?

Want Four more years of economic Depression? – vote for Democrats!

How stupid for CNN to be broadcasting all the superstitious mumbo-jumbo.

What they really need to be doing is asking everyone to pray for a quick economic recovery.

Any psychics willing to predict what kind of weekend Holder and Obama will have ?

“ATF Director Kenneth Melson, who was heavily involved in Operation Fast and Furious, doesn’t look like he’s willing to fall on his sword for Attorney General Eric Holder and President Obama just yet. In fact, Melson is ready to testify in front of the House Oversight Committee where Rep. Darrell Issa will ask him who above him ordered the operation within the Justice Department . Eric Holder should be very,very worried .”

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/06/24/trouble_for_holder_atf_director_eager_to_testify_about_operation_fast_and_furious

DEMs/Libs are trying to conevince people that Republicans are purposely “Sabbatoging the Economy!”

That’s their newest “talking point/meme!”

LoL It aint’t working for ‘em!

BFD said:
How stupid for CNN to be broadcasting all the superstitious mumbo-jumbo.

What they really need to be doing is asking everyone to pray for a quick economic recovery.

Good idea!

Gov. Perry is lining up the Governor’s to do tht in August!

Thanks, Gov. Perry! Please, run for President! We need ya!

juan said:
Gov. Perry is lining up the Governor’s to do tht in August!

HAHAHAHA….like when he prayed for rain in Texas.

The drought got 3 times worse!!!

Slow news day… *yawning!*

Who needs Media Matters when you can influence elections otherwise, you just have to go to root of elections: The Secretary of State:

http://www.washingtontimes.com...

Soros and liberal groups seeking top election posts in battleground states

“Billionaire hedge-fund operator George Soros is among wealthy liberal activists who have contributed to the Secretary of State Project, a 527 organization that works to put progressive Democrats in office overseeing elections in battleground states.”

NORBIT Jr. said:
It’s even odds they’d do better than the current crop of Democratic-Socialists we have running the country today?

Want Four more years of economic Depression? – vote for Democrats!

Because the Republicans want the economy to get worse!!

Yoda002 said:
Because the Republicans want the economy to get worse!!

Nah. . .Obama and DEM/LIBs want that so they can “Redistribute more Misery!”

Yoda002 said:
Because the Republicans want the economy to get worse!!

Hey Psychic,

You want a prediction?

How about, the reality of the Economy will overwhelm the Propaganda of the Democratic Media, and Obama & the Dems will lose power for a generation!

Put that in your bowl & smoke it!

ps) special forward to my bud Yodel.

yet more evidence of our liberal media in action

lol

Anyone else reminded of the movie, Network, where Howard Beale’s news show had on a psychic segment called, Sybil the Soothsayer?

Was that movie prescient or what?

juan said:
Nah. . .Obama and DEM/LIBs want that so they can “Redistribute more Misery!”

You mean the Repubs redistributing money to the top!! When thats Republicans reject tax cuts to small businesses you know they’re in on it.

Has no one at CNN seen “Network”? I’m shocked that they’ve conjured up another “Sybil the Soothsayer.” Now, I’m as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore. Not from CNN. Off to send them an email.

having said that, i do believe some women can see the future

time bends

This is truly ridiculous.

NORBIT Jr. said:
Hey Psychic,

You want a prediction?

How about, the reality of the Economy will overwhelm the Propaganda of the Democratic Media, and Obama & the Dems will lose power for a generation!

Put that in your bowl & smoke it!

ps) special forward to my bud Yodel.

The Republicans love this economy it’s never been better for their top 2% buddies.

Yoda002 said:
The Republicans love this economy it’s never been better for their top 2% buddies.

yeah, give us their money, we can tell them how much they need to live on

Yoda002 said:
You mean the Repubs redistributing money to the top!! When thats Republicans reject tax cuts to small businesses you know they’re in on it.

republicans? re-distribute wealth? class warfare?

nah

they *love* america too much

but seriously, now. some of them actually believe (see: paul ryan) that the wealthy
deserve more, because they are the super-producers. they are superior people.

that is honestly what many of these republicans believe. and, eventually, the dumbest
americans will see through this and turn on them.

they already are. they’re just too fat and lazy to get off the couch and do something.

or, they’re really just stupid.

Yoda002 said:
You mean the Repubs redistributing money to the top!! When thats Republicans reject tax cuts to small businesses you know they’re in on it.

*the

Yoda002 said:
The Republicans love this economy it’s never been better for their top 2% buddies.

Obama is also in the pockets of the corporatists. But keep spinning. He loves him some Wall Street.

cjd ohio 1 said:
yeah, give us their money, we can tell them how much they need to live on

either way, you’re telling someone how much they need to live on.

but i wouldn’t expect you to grasp that wisdom

Yoda002 said:
The Republicans love this economy it’s never been better for their top 2% buddies.

I agree with you, as far as defining “the Republican Party” as a definitive anachronism!

The GOP, today, is comprised more of, what I like to call the 70%’ers – that is, the 70% in the RATIONAL CENTER! -and THEY will control the political narrative and direction of the country for the future…be asured of that, and, shall I say, Capitalize on it!

…and Yodel, you don’t even have to pay me a commission for that salient advise!

slickerwick said:
Obama is also in the pockets of the corporatists. But keep spinning. He loves him some Wall Street.

we know that, dude. we’re not defending obama.

but *at least* some democrats (bernie sanders, for instance) are standing up for the middle class
and the poor.

i don’t see anyone on the republican side standing up for the poor

b4peace said:
Has no one at CNN seen “Network”? I’m shocked that they’ve conjured up another “Sybil the Soothsayer.” Now, I’m as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore. Not from CNN. Off to send them an email.

You read my mind ;-)
See my comment upthread.

darladoon said:
i don’t see anyone on the republican side standing up for the poor

Tea Party sentiment does – but they also support responsibility for one’s actions!

darladoon said:
either way, you’re telling someone how much they need to live on. but i wouldn’t expect you to grasp that wisdom

explain it then

NORBIT Jr. said:
I agree with you, as far as defining “the Republican Party” as a definitive anachronism!

The GOP, today, is comprised more of, what I like to call the 70%’ers – that is, the 70% in the RATIONAL CENTER! -and THEY will control the political narrative and direction of the country for the future…be asured of that, and, shall I say, Capitalize on it!

…and Yodel, you don’t even have to pay me a commission for that salient advise!

gee, i wonder how republicans will “control the narrative”?

it wouldn’t that darn liberal media, would it?

which economists think the republicans are rat

rational, btw?

darladoon said:
republicans? re-distribute wealth? class warfare?

nah

they *love* america too much

but seriously, now. some of them actually believe (see: paul ryan) that the wealthy
deserve more, because they are the super-producers. they are superior people.

that is honestly what many of these republicans believe. and, eventually, the dumbest
americans will see through this and turn on them.

they already are. they’re just too fat and lazy to get off the couch and do something.

or, they’re really just stupid.

Those super producers aren’t trickling the money down to everyone else, but that was the plan all along. Old Reagan economists have said that was the plan.

cjd ohio 1 said:
explain it then

well, by not asking those who are doing extraordinarily well right now to pay more in taxes, we’re
asking those struggling to make it to do so instead.

it’s basic logic.

either way, you tell people how to live.

darladoon said:
gee, i wonder how republicans will “control the narrative”? it wouldn’t that darn liberal media, would it? which economists think the republicans are rat

The political narrative.
The “Tea Party” is representative of about 70% of what the general public supports on the top 5-10 issues.

Yoda002 said:
Those super producers aren’t trickling the money down to everyone else, but that was the plan all along. Old Reagan economists have said that was the plan.

no, it’s called offshore tax havens, super low taxed capital gains, offshore investments,
transnational investments, cheap offshore labor, etc

the super producers are not americans. they’re transnational corporatists.

NORBIT Jr. said:
Tea Party sentiment does – but they also support responsibility for one’s actions!

Tea Party member didn’t even realize they were being used.

darladoon said:
well, by not asking those who are doing extraordinarily well right now to pay more in taxes, we’reasking those struggling to make it to do so instead. it’s basic logic. either way, you tell people how to live.

well then ask them,

darladoon said:
well, by not asking those who are doing extraordinarily well right now to pay more in taxes, we’reasking those struggling to make it to do so instead. it’s basic logic. either way, you tell people how to live.

but what if they say no

NORBIT Jr. said:
The political narrative.
The “Tea Party” is representative of about 70% of what the general public supports on the top 5-10 issues.

ok, so the tea party wants to government to keep their hands off of
socialized medicine (medicare, medicaid), social security, etc.

they also want to preserve public education.

they want a fair minimum wage.

they want higher taxes on the wealthy.

didn’t realize those were tea party values.

Tell me, is it a mental fixation, or what doesn’t Obama understand about: Socialism Doesn’t Work!
lol!

Is he watching Greece disintegrate into anarchy on LIVE TV?

darladoon said:
no, it’s called offshore tax havens, super low taxed capital gains, offshore investments,
transnational investments, cheap offshore labor, etc

the super producers are not americans. they’re transnational corporatists.

I agree, but they ran on the trickle down effect. What Bush Sr. called Voodoo economics.

darladoon said:
i don’t see anyone on the republican side standing up for the poor

What mindless boilerplate.
Polls have shown that conservatives give more to charity than do liberals.

What more do you want the government to do for the poor? More food stamps? More cash? More utility subsidies? More free education? More rent subsidies? How much exactly is enough? How much more should the government supply?

darladoon said:
ok, so the tea party wants to government to keep their hands off ofsocialized medicine (medicare, medicaid), social security, etc. they also want to preserve public education. they want a fair minimum wage. they want higher taxes on the wealthy. didn’t realize those were tea party values.

That’s what I’m here for!
To inform you on what the Democratic Media WON’T!

NORBIT Jr. said:
Tell me, is it a mental fixation, or what doesn’t Obama understand about: Socialism Doesn’t Work!
lol!

Is he watching Greece disintegrate into anarchy on LIVE TV?

do you have any idea what you’re talking about?

greece isn’t collapsing because of socialism. it’s collapsing because large banks (goldman sachs)
undervalued their debt to european creditors.

sure, they have a way too low retirement age, but their debt as a % of GDP is the same
as the united states (hardly a socialist country)

NORBIT Jr. said:
That’s what I’m here for!
To inform you on what the Democratic Media WON’T!

so you admit, then, that i’m right

CNN has fallen to a new low. Moon Sign, 4 of cups…Whats next, he entrails of Goats? Perhaps a Voodoo Queen shaking her chicken foot in one hand and rabbits foot in the other while standing on one foot and chugging a Red Stripe will receive from the Grand PooBah a vision of our future.

All these Awesome predictions can be yours Dear Friends for the early ‘Summer Special’ price of only $50 bucks…and the suspension of your intellect.

Personally I recommend ‘Carnac the Magnificent!’, his predictions are free, and you get a laugh thrown in gratis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKMYQf2ZOZM&feature=related

NORBIT Jr. said:
Tell me, is it a mental fixation, or what doesn’t Obama understand about: Socialism Doesn’t Work!
lol!

Is he watching Greece disintegrate into anarchy on LIVE TV?

But, the Republicans believe in socialism for the wealthy oil companies, banks, drug companies.

slickerwick said:
What mindless boilerplate.
Polls have shown that conservatives give more to charity than do liberals.

What more do you want the government to do for the poor? More food stamps? More cash? More utility subsidies? More free education? More rent subsidies? How much exactly is enough? How much more should the government supply?

and how are those charities doing now?

i didn’t realize you were in favor of letting millions of senior citizens starve?

darladoon said:
do you have any idea what you’re talking about? greece isn’t collapsing because of socialism. it’s collapsing because large banks (goldman sachs)undervalued their debt to european creditors. sure, they have a way too low retirement age, but their debt as a % of GDP is the sameas the united states (hardly a socialist country)

Please! – You’re not posting to the HuffPo here.

Must we recall the Frank-Dodd Mandate that more minorities get home ownership, and Fannie/Freddie LOWERING their standards to accomplish that, which led to Wall Street EXPLOITING it, …etc., etc., etc.,

slickerwick said:
What mindless boilerplate.
Polls have shown that conservatives give more to charity than do liberals.

What more do you want the government to do for the poor? More food stamps? More cash? More utility subsidies? More free education? More rent subsidies? How much exactly is enough? How much more should the government supply?

Liberals out give conservatives to charities in huge margins.

Yoda002 said:
Liberals out give conservatives to charities in huge margins.

lol

NORBIT Jr. said:
Please! – You’re not posting to the HuffPo here.

Must we recall the Frank-Dodd Mandate that more minorities get home ownership, and Fannie/Freddie LOWERING their standards to accomplish that, which led to Wall Street EXPLOITING it, …etc., etc., etc.,

They were exploiting it long before that. Stealing is stealing no matter what it is.

cjd ohio 1 said:
lol

lol

Well everyone knows CNN’s motto right?

All the news that is not news. Geez. All you need to know about the economy-

2010 Federal Deficit Spending 9.6% of GDP
2010 GDP growth rate stated as 2.6%
2010 effective GDP growth NEGATIVE 7%

2011 Federal Deficit Spending 9-10% of GDP projected
2011 GDP Growth 2% projected
2011 effective GDP growth NEGATIVE 7-8%

Depression described as 4 continuous quarters of GDP decline. What do you call several years of Depression? Another Great Depression?

Leftist idea on how to improve economy-

Tax the heck out of businesses.
Regulate the heck out of business.
Cause energy prices to “necessarily skyrocket”!
Deny companies there right to build where they want.
Cause a border war with Mexico by giving drug cartels guns.
Borrow tons of money and bail out your failing crony buddies and unions.
etc etc etc

What could go wrong?

Without producers, investors, and suppliers there would be no money or goods to re-distribute. But try explaining that to socialists. They want to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. They think money and consumer products grow on trees and are naturally occuring things, like air or water and you just have to spread it around.

NORBIT Jr. said:
Please! – You’re not posting to the HuffPo here.

Must we recall the Frank-Dodd Mandate that more minorities get home ownership, and Fannie/Freddie LOWERING their standards to accomplish that, which led to Wall Street EXPLOITING it, …etc., etc., etc.,

yeah, it’s just that simple

Yoda002 said:
lol

Can you supply ONE source that confirms your position on charitable giving? Will be waiting…………………..

slickerwick said:
Without producers, investors, and suppliers there would be no money or goods to re-distribute. But try explaining that to socialists. They want to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. They think money and consumer products grow on trees and are naturally occuring things, like air or water and you just have to spread it around.

who do you think creates all wealth? do the super producers actually, you know,
build stuff? or just pay for it?

i live in a working class neighborhood, and i can tell you, everyone’s working 12 hour
days, and coming home weary.

NORBIT Jr. said:
I agree with you, as far as defining “the Republican Party” as a definitive anachronism!

The GOP, today, is comprised more of, what I like to call the 70%’ers – that is, the 70% in the RATIONAL CENTER! -and THEY will control the political narrative and direction of the country for the future…be asured of that, and, shall I say, Capitalize on it!

…and Yodel, you don’t even have to pay me a commission for that salient advise!

Those 70% of your so called rational thinkers (the blind) are just being used because they care for the top 2%

slickerwick said:
Without producers, investors, and suppliers there would be no money or goods to re-distribute. But try explaining that to socialists. They want to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. They think money and consumer products grow on trees and are naturally occuring things, like air or water and you just have to spread it around.

But socialism to the rich is making matters worse.

Do an advanced google search using unexpected and not expected with economic, unemployment etc in the advanced exact wording or phrase. Then modify your results for the last two years.

The propaganda is strong in the AP, Yahoo, Reuters and other Ministry of Truth progenitors.

darladoon said:
and how are those charities doing now?

i didn’t realize you were in favor of letting millions of senior citizens starve?

How did you get that from what I posted? Are you that stupid or simply dishonest? Yes, of course, if the government doesn’t increase cash payments seniors will starve by the millions. How f-cking mindless are you? (BTW, seniors are the most financially secure among the general population.)

I asked you a question. How much more should the government do? How much more cash or subsidies or services should the government supply?

DavidKramer said:
Can you supply ONE source that confirms your position on charitable giving? Will be waiting…………………..

Look up the top 10 philanthropist

slickerwick said:
How did you get that from what I posted? Are you that stupid or simply dishonest? Yes, of course, if the government doesn’t increase cash payments seniors will starve by the millions

more than 2 million seniors are having a hard time paying for food right now.

Yoda002 said:
But socialism to the rich is making matters worse.

Idiot. When you work and/or invest and make money that is not socialism. It’s called capitalism.
You also seem to be confusing capitalism with corporatism.
Socialism is taking money from those who earned it or from those to whom it belongs and giving it to those who did not earn it. And of course, only the government has the power to do this because they have the weapons and the enforcers and the jails.

If you want to help the poor, no one is stopping you. Give of your own money freely but you shouldn’t force people at the point of a government gun to hand over their money.

slickerwick said:
How did you get that from what I posted? Are you that stupid or simply dishonest? Yes, of course, if the government doesn’t increase cash payments seniors will starve by the millions. How f-cking mindless are you? (BTW, seniors are the most financially secure among the general population.)

I asked you a question. How much more should the government do? How much more cash or subsidies or services should the government supply?

How much are they supplying the oil companies who are making record profits. Before Social Security seniors were the least financially secure.

Yoda002 said:
Liberals out give conservatives to charities in huge margins.

You live in a world of make believe!

darladoon said:
more than 2 million seniors are having a hard time paying for food right now.

Food and Energy are not part of the inflation index…..

Of course they are starving!

Progressives could care less.

slickerwick said:
Idiot. When you work and/or invest and make money that is not socialism. It’s called capitalism.
You also seem to be confusing capitalism with corporatism.
Socialism is taking money from those who earned it or from those to whom it belongs and giving it to those who did not earn it. And of course, only the government has the power to do this because they have the weapons and the enforcers and the jails.

If you want to help the poor, no one is stopping you. Give of your own money freely but you shouldn’t force people at the point of a government gun to hand over their money.

Look at what you wrote and it is socialism to the wealthy because they are getting government subsidies. The people didn’t earn it. You would be left in the gutter if the government didn’t help you either.

darladoon said:
who do you think creates all wealth? do the super producers actually, you know,
build stuff? or just pay for it?

i live in a working class neighborhood, and i can tell you, everyone’s working 12 hour
days, and coming home weary.

Where do you think money comes from? Do you know how wealth is created?
You talk about people who are working, your average workingman. Where would those people find jobs if it were not for entrepreneurs and capital?
What you have a problem with is not capitalism but corporatism.

slickerwick said:
Socialism is taking money from those who earned it or from those to whom it belongs and giving it to those who did not earn it

so you think there shouldn’t be any taxes at all.

ok, fine.

and just for the record, socialism has a definition, you can google it.

send me the portion where it says that there are those who ‘earn’ or those who don’t.

and that socialism’s role is to transfer wealth from those who ‘earn’ it to those who don’t.

slickerwick said:
Where do you think money comes from? Do you know how wealth is created?
You talk about people who are working, your average workingman. Where would those people find jobs if it were not for entrepreneurs and capital?
What you have a problem with is not capitalism but corporatism.

wealth is created through one thing, and one thing only, labor.

BatBoy said:
You live in a world of make believe!

Studies have show that they give more. Partly because they look at money and society differently.

the queen of the tea party, bachmann, has received millions in farm subsidies.

and she’s also very wealthy.

BatBoy said:
Food and Energy are not part of the inflation index…..

Of course they are starving!

Progressives could care less.

bernie sanders is the only progressive in the senate

he has made fighting hunger a priority

Yoda002 said:
Liberals out give conservatives to charities in huge margins.

No actually, that s nice Liberal Myth, but they do not…not even close. Conservatives are consistently across the board more charitable than Peog’s. Read Arthur C. Brooks ‘Who Really Cares’ to get an idea of just how wrong you are. Another place Conservatives give more, is to Blood Banks and organ donations. Again we find that for the Progressive, what they know, just ain’t so.

darladoon said:
bernie sanders is the only progressive in the senate he has made fighting hunger a priority

socialist, unless progressive is the samething

GoneFishing said:
No actually, that s nice Liberal Myth, but they do not…not even close. Conservatives are consistently across the board more charitable than Peog’s. Read Arthur C. Brooks ‘Who Really Cares’ to get an idea of just how wrong you are. Another place Conservatives give more, is to Blood Banks and organ donations. Again we find that for the Progressive, what they know, just ain’t so.

wow, are you arguing that conservatives support……community organizing?!

what do you think charity is?

or do conservatives to afraid to, you know, actually care for people and more interested
in just writing a check?

I would settle for some honest coverage of unemployment, the deficit, the unfunded future liabilities from Social Security and Medicare, etc. But just making a joke out of the economy puts CNN into the same category of its rivals Comedy Central (where news is explicitly turned into a joke) and MSNBC (where news is implicitly turned into a joke).

darladoon said:
wealth is created through one thing, and one thing only, labor.

wrong…………….your mind is

Yoda002 said:
Look at what you wrote and it is socialism to the wealthy because they are getting government subsidies. The people didn’t earn it. You would be left in the gutter if the government didn’t help you either.

Again, you are confusing corporatism with capitalism. Corporations should receive no government subsidies. I don’t want corporations being given special help or favors by the govt.

And no, child, I would not be “left in the gutter” if the government didn’t help me. I can work and if not I can receive the freely given charity of family and friends.

What a malevolent view you have of human nature. What you are saying is that if it were not for government holding a gun to people’s head we’d all be living in the gutter. We are all helpless children and need Big Brother wielding power and deciding our fates.

cjd ohio 1 said:
socialist, unless progressive is the samething

they have a lot in common, indeed

darladoon said:
wow, are you arguing that conservatives support……community organizing?!

what do you think charity is?

or do conservatives to afraid to, you know, actually care for people and more interested
in just writing a check?

You are wrong, have no data or response to support your position, so you try to change the argument…Typical.

Hows that unicorn and rainbow working out for ya. Lets us know when you step back into reality.

Btw, I suggest you bring an umbrella, the weather is not so good for Progressives. Hail is forecast.

cjd ohio 1 said:
wrong…………….your mind is

look it up. how do you create ‘wealth’ without labor?

it’s impossible.

capital gains are ancillary.

labor is what creates wealth.

the extrapolation of resources from the earth requires labor.

darladoon said:
bernie sanders is the only progressive in the senate

he has made fighting hunger a priority

What hunger? I see a lot of food stamp cards being used by overweight people when I stand in line at the supermarket.

I know a number of people on welfare and S.S. disability, friends of mine, who are able to afford cigarettes and booze.

How much more cash and food subsidies would Sanders and you give to people? How much more? Do you know? How much is enough?

felixw said:
I would settle for some honest coverage of unemployment, the deficit, the unfunded future liabilities from Social Security and Medicare, etc. But just making a joke out of the economy puts CNN into the same category of its rivals Comedy Central (where news is explicitly turned into a joke) and MSNBC (where news is implicitly turned into a joke).

Well hey, a failing economy is funny…just ask Obama. He laughed and laughed when it was pointed out to him that his ‘Shovel Ready’ jobs were a fantasy. The Joke is on us.

GoneFishing said:
No actually, that s nice Liberal Myth, but they do not…not even close. Conservatives are consistently across the board more charitable than Peog’s. Read Arthur C. Brooks ‘Who Really Cares’ to get an idea of just how wrong you are. Another place Conservatives give more, is to Blood Banks and organ donations. Again we find that for the Progressive, what they know, just ain’t so.

His study is flawed because a lot of the giving was not reported to the IRS but came from the liberal spectrum.

darladoon said:
look it up. how do you create ‘wealth’ without labor? it’s impossible. capital gains are ancillary. labor is what creates wealth. the extrapolation of resources from the earth requires labor.

mindless labor creates holes in the ground, using your mind with ideas and how to apply your labor create wealth

Yoda002 said:
They were exploiting it long before that. Stealing is stealing no matter what it is.

Well, if you’re a socialist you believe in theft.

felixw said:
I would settle for some honest coverage of unemployment, the deficit, the unfunded future liabilities from Social Security and Medicare, etc. But just making a joke out of the economy puts CNN into the same category of its rivals Comedy Central (where news is explicitly turned into a joke) and MSNBC (where news is implicitly turned into a joke).

So FOX never jokes about it?? LOL People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

slickerwick said:
What hunger? I see a lot of food stamp cards being used by overweight people when I stand in line at the supermarket.

(yawn)

slickerwick said:
Well, if you’re a socialist you believe in theft.

is taxation a form of theft?

slickerwick said:
Well, if you’re a socialist you believe in theft.

I don’t think you know what socialism is??

cjd ohio 1 said:
mindless labor creates holes in the ground, using your mind with ideas and how to apply your labor create wealth

nice dodge

slickerwick said:
Again, you are confusing corporatism with capitalism. Corporations should receive no government subsidies. I don’t want corporations being given special help or favors by the govt.

And no, child, I would not be “left in the gutter” if the government didn’t help me. I can work and if not I can receive the freely given charity of family and friends.

What a malevolent view you have of human nature. What you are saying is that if it were not for government holding a gun to people’s head we’d all be living in the gutter. We are all helpless children and need Big Brother wielding power and deciding our fates.

They should receive no subsidy at all, and they should not be taxed either, because they cant be…Corp taxes are a scam on the public, nothing more. You see, the Corporate entity creates nothing, it is a legal fiction. Corporations do not make money, labor does…and the Labor is already taxed and paid on the income earned by every Corporate employee.

Corporations unlike Governments cannot print money, so they must get it from their customers in the form of higher prices. Or from their employees in the form of lower wages, benefits and fewer of them. Or from their investors…that gives you less value for money, and makes your 401K and retirement accounts worth less.

Corporate Taxes are a Hidden Tax on You…no matter how you slice it, one way or another, We pay the tax, not the Bad ol’ Corporation. We do.

darladoon said:
who do you think creates all wealth? do the super producers actually, you know,
build stuff? or just pay for it?

i live in a working class neighborhood, and i can tell you, everyone’s working 12 hour
days, and coming home weary.

Would you be on your computer were it not for someone like Bill Gates? Would those who work for Microsoft and all the businesses that branched off from that and from the internet be employed were it not for the entrepreneurs and inventors?

Socialists want to penalize achievers. It’s a combination of envy, power lust, resentment, and guilt assuagement.

GoneFishing said:
They should receive no subsidy at all, and they should not be taxed either, because they cant be…Corp taxes are a scam on the public, nothing more. You see, the Corporate entity creates nothing, it is a legal fiction. Corporations do not make money, labor does…and the Labor is already taxed and paid on the income earned by every Corporate employee.

Corporations unlike Governments cannot print money, so they must get it from their customers in the form of higher prices. Or from their employees in the form of lower wages, benefits and fewer of them. Or from their investors…that gives you less value for money, and makes your 401K and retirement accounts worth less.

Corporate Taxes are a Hidden Tax on You…no matter how you slice it, one way or another, We pay the tax, not the Bad ol’ Corporation. We do.

Exactly. The more they’re taxed, the more those taxes are passed on to consumers in higher prices.

Yoda002 said:
His study is flawed because a lot of the giving was not reported to the IRS but came from the liberal spectrum.

Nice try, pull the other one, it has bells on. It’s also not true that Conservatives have the most money…In-fact Liberals do, and they give less.

Yoda002 said:
I don’t think you know what socialism is??

Yes, I do. The government holds a gun to your head and takes your money and keeps it for itself or gives it to someone else. What would you call it?

darladoon said:
is taxation a form of theft?

Yes.

darladoon said:
bernie sanders is the only progressive in the senate
he has made fighting hunger a priority

He has done a poor job of it.

We need some new blood….his ideas do not work.

cjd ohio 1 said:
mindless labor creates holes in the ground, using your mind with ideas and how to apply your labor create wealth

Exactly correct; It is not the amount of labor, it is the amount of value added By that labor that determines its worth.

MediaMatters, Soros, Brock, et al, (includes A-MESS-NBC, NYT, CBS, CNN, ABC, NPR, WaPo, Obama, and DEMs) probably are NOT having a great week-end!

darladoon said:
nice dodge

lol ,dodge, if you dont know what to do with your labor, what good is it?

darladoon said:
wealth is created through one thing, and one thing only, labor.

No, it is created by those with the mental and creative capacity to produce, invent, and invest so that jobs are created.

juan said:
MediaMatters, Soros, Brock, et al, (includes A-MESS-NBC, NYT, CBS, CNN, ABC, NPR, WaPo, Obama, and DEMs) probably are NOT having a great week-end!

The poor wee bairns… they will just retreat to the ‘Big Rock-Candy Mountain’.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CW0hGhINjc&feature=related a Great tune btw…We have been here before.

darladoon said:
republicans? re-distribute wealth? class warfare?

nah

they *love* america too much

but seriously, now. some of them actually believe (see: paul ryan) that the wealthy
deserve more, because they are the super-producers. they are superior people.

that is honestly what many of these republicans believe. and, eventually, the dumbest
americans will see through this and turn on them.

they already are. they’re just too fat and lazy to get off the couch and do something.

or, they’re really just stupid.

So what you are saying is that it is not their money. It belongs to the government.

If you confiscated the money from every single millionaire and distributed it around, how far would it spread? How long would that money last? And after it was gone, where would more money come from to distribute? Think about it.

Here’s the prediction the psychics SHOULD have made after peering into their crystal ball….

“If Obama and other Democrats don’t do something about the real economy (and not just pump more borrowed money into a bloated, inefficient Washington D.D. bureaucracy) they will find out first hand about the unemployment problem in America.”

That’s a pretty easy prediction to make….but you definitely won’t hear it on CNN.

AFL-CIO Union Chief Pledges 12 Million Workers to Van Jones Progressive Tea Party

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/afl-cio-union-chief-pledges-12-million-workers-to-van-jones-progressive-tea-party/

CNN = Basic cable’s answer to Comedy Central.

juan said:
AFL-CIO Union Chief Pledges 12 Million Workers to Van Jones Progressive Tea Party

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/afl-cio-union-chief-pledges-12-million-workers-to-van-jones-progressive-tea-party/

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Union thug to hapless union employee: “You’ll go, at time and a half, or, I’ll turn you over to Vinnie the Steward for a good head-crackin’ and then on to the unemployment line”. <—- when the truth is told, it will sound like this.

juan said:
AFL-CIO Union Chief Pledges 12 Million Workers to Van Jones Progressive Tea Party

Heck, he might as well get 12 million union members to pledge gay marriages. Now THAT would both support his Democrat cronies and also demonstrate real union solidarity!

Great Moments In Journalism: CNN Brings On Psychics To Predict Economic Future

This is weird. But no more so then asking Paul Krugman to predict the economic future. That guy has been wrong so many times it’s not even funny.

Yoda002 said:
The Republicans love this economy it’s never been better for their top 2% buddies.

You mean the Wall Street Exec. buddies forking over $35,000.00 a plate to eat with Obama? The one’s he gave a free pass to?
Is it so easy for you to blame republicans when the democrats had control for the past 6 years in Congress and had the opportunity to pass and legislate reforms however they wanted? I love how easily you all forget that Bush was voted down when he tried to regulate Fanny/Freddie Mac, they were shamed for taking away that “American Dream” because everyone deserves a home (it doesn’t matter if they couldn’t afford one). Social right as defined by the Left will bankrupt this country. They turned down the opportunity to cut 1 TRILLION yesterday in spending cuts and wouldn’t do it, using medicare and tax hikes as the excuse.
I can predict America’s future under Obama and it look just like Greece.

mlb said:
I can predict America’s future under Obama and it look just like Greece.

That’s why Obama had those Greek columns at his speech in Denver!

He wants us as a third world country!

You expected more ?

it’s official…..

CNN has jumped the Spinner Dolphin.

was that segment produced by “The Onion” or what?

I wonder if any mediaite staffer kinows why President Obama had to apologize tonight?

I know they know about jumping sharks, about the Onion, about Cindy Anthony….I know they nkow about Michale Slahi and Conan and Jon and Glenn…but do they know why President Obama apoligized?

I know, but then again, I watch FNC, so I’m informed.

TfT said:
I wonder if any mediaite staffer kinows why President Obama had to apologize tonight?

I know they know about jumping sharks, about the Onion, about Cindy Anthony….I know they nkow about Michale Slahi and Conan and Jon and Glenn…but do they know why President Obama apoligized?

I know, but then again, I watch FNC, so I’m informed.

You have to laugh at the liberal media’s determination to bury stories that might reflect poorly on Obama. As if people won’t notice their home price falling. Or they won’t notice that they can’t find a job. The end result is simply to marginalize the liberal media outlets and send more viewers to Fox. The irony is that even liberals need to watch Fox if they want to find out which stories they are supposed to ignore.

Congrats. Unlike a lot of stories around this site, the post actually has something to do with media and journalism, so that’s definitely a plus.

Of course it does seem a little disingenuous, considering that most Mediaite bloggers average around eight posts a day and this swipe at CNN for doing three minutes of fluffy filler was surrounded by stories about jumping sharks and a Reddit about someone dying twice, but at least faulting CNN for doing a feature about a headline subject is on-topic for the blog and there’s something to be said about that.

Also, it appears to have gotten a lot of pageviews. Not only were there those who wanted to see the clip, but also those who wanted to make fun of it as a topic and apparently a lot of commenters who wanted to make political points about the economic scene.

Hey, everybody. Don’t be too hard on the psychics or CNN. Could they possibly do any worse than the idiotic politicians and so-called economists who have brought our country to its current state of economic perfection?
I am a a retired scientist and do not believe in psychics, but they would probably be right at least half the time, from sheer chance of guessing. Compare that probability with the records of those currently in charge of the country’s economy. Even if the latter are not deliberately trying to destroy the US, could they possibly do any worse if they were?

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