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Melissa Harris Perry: Michele Bachmann’s ‘Tax The Poor’ Rhetoric Is ‘Just Racism’

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With the national debt and its effect on the economy being the top issue of the 2012 campaign, the panel today on Up with Chris Hayes debated the various merits of the Republicans’ tax plans, and one bit of rhetoric from Rep. Michele Bachmann struck panelist Melissa Harris Perry as transcending policy grounds and just flat out racist: the proposition that there is a sector of the population, as host Chris Hayes put it, that are “producers” and another that are “leeches.”

The comment in question from Rep. Bachmann was an argument on her part that taxes should be raised on those who don’t pay any– “we need to get more in line,” she told a crowd, “because everyone… should pay something.” She also cited a statistic that only 53% of Americans pay taxes. “I think that’s just racism,” Harris Perry argued, likening it to the “2011 version of the welfare queen.” “What that is meant to imply is that there is a whole group that is dependent,” she explained, and the subtext to that being that the group is comprised of “unworking, unmarried poor black women who are welfare queens.” The “53%” talk, she concluded, was “just a way of evoking all of these scary, racialized, and poor others.”

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At this point, panelist Kevin Williamson of the National Review jumped in– not to correct Harris Perry, but to note that the stereotype is “probably true”– those who are dependent, he argued, “tend to be poor, unmarried young women.” After the inevitable crosstalk that elicited from the panel, they returned to the racialized subtext in Republican language, which Hayes found to be an increasingly less pervasive issue. “The amount of racial coding… has declined,” he suggested, since he began covering politics. That others on the panel found to be a sign not that racism had eroded, but evolved. Harris Perry in particular noted that rhetoric had been “so effectively racialized” that “you don’t have to do Willie Horton anymore, you can just say ‘crime.’” Whether the word “crime” standing by itself is inherently racist is certainly debatable, thought the panel seemed to agree that anti-”leech” rhetoric could easily take a turn against ethnic minorities as opposed to class groups.

RELATED: Chris Hayes Panelist Calls Chris Christie ‘Less Obviously Racist’ Than Rest Of GOP Presidential Field

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  • Anonymous

    What ISN’T racism anymore???

  • Anonymous

    What ISN’T racism anymore???

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Isn’t Perry in the number of racism cards thrown against of the year liberal hater awards runnings????

  • Anonymous

    Another problem with liberalism is that they fully embrace their stupidity.  Someone needs to inform them being this stupid is not a good thing.

  • SNAPTIE 53% taxpayers vs 99%

    You might be a Racist if ? ( you appear on MSNBC }

  • Anonymous

    My theory is that the MSNBC CEO is actually a CNN mole trying to cause MSNBC to lose every non-far left viewer. Simply no other theory about a news division going so far-left makes sense….

  • http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon

    Thank God we have MSNBC to be the watchdog for racism in America !!

    Next up on MSNBC: Panel discusses Herman Cain’s desire to become what they would call the color of water

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    msnbc just needs to run this image 24/7 and it will have the same effect. 

    http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/665-thats-racist.gif

  • Anonymous

    not a sane voice in the bunch.  Pretty pathetic.  Perry is supposedly “educated” – hate to see what she’d say if she was dumb as a post (probably the same thing).

  • Anonymous

    so far she’s leading by a Country mile.  

    I don’t think the left realizes how much they hurt their position when you have absolutely loons like this “representing” your views. lol

  • Texan

    Poor is a race? Do they speak Austrian? Which of the thousands of countries are they from? Inquiring minds want to know!

  • Anonymous

    I believe I saw the last time this point was raised, that in fact it’s whites.  That wouldn’t suit Perry’s idiotic take so she ignored that stat.  (will have a quick look and see if I can find the figures again).

    http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/who-collects-more-welfare-whites-or-blacks/question-1195103/

  • UseYourBrain!

    Crime 

  • http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon

    Janeane Garofalo is gonna be so pissed that she didn’t think of that one first !!

  • Norbit

    No Melissa, it’s YOUR accusation against a caucasian GOP candidate that’s RACIST!

    In fact Melissa, anytime someone like yourself attempts to brand a critic to left-wing orthodoxy as a “racist”, we’re going to expose YOU and THEM as the Real RACISTS!

  • Sean68

    When all you have is a hammer….

  • Anonymous

    So why is “liberal” MSNBC pushing the racist lie that it is blacks?

  • Norbit

    Copy/Paste reference here:

    Document the myriad ”Racist”-Smear allegations the likes of regular MSNBC smear-merchant Melissa Perry,  her Democratic ilk, or their “mainstream media”, use as a political weapon against white, hispanic or black critics of their failed Marxist policies.

    Start exposing the allegations of “Racism” against political detractors as the most vile RACISM of all!

  • Guest

    Is this all MSNBC is ever going to talk about?  Is everything now racist?  Who is this person?

  • Norbit

    70% single, unwed, uncoupled-childbearers in the black community…with multiple inseminators accounting for multiple welfare-babies!

    I’d say the real racism here comes from people like Melissa Perry, who have created, and now want to perpetuate this attack on the black family unit – for rank Democratic political gain!

  • Anonymous

    too incite.

  • Norbit

    She typifies the indoctrinated fixations of these so-called “Professors”.

    They’re about as legitimate as the “Reverend” TAWANA SHARPTON!

  • Norbit

    Liberals are allowed to be Racist, according to theie Mainstream Media’s rules on “Smearing Republicans As Racists”.

  • Norbit

    Good idea snaptie.

    You might be a racist if:

    You oppose welfare benefits for single, uncoupled birthing females, who are unable to care for their own well-being, yet are having their 9th baby, from an unknown baby-daddy!

  • Anonymous

    Harris Perry is using similar tactics to Bachmann if you accept her analogy.She is using the race card,playing it regardless of the actual true implication of the statement,to encourage votes for Democrats/liberals/non republicans.This isn’t about righting a wrong by Bachmann,it’s about using her words against her and her party at the ballot box by using the fear of appearing racist.

    It’s become automatic for any minority Democrat to call anything from a republican racist.Thing is if she really wants to change a racist (her perception) population,turning it into the “boy that cried wolf” isn’t the best tactic.At this point there are a lot of people out there who shrug this off because they’ve heard it all too often already.

    Personally I doubt that most politicians who suggest that those who are in the category of not paying taxes should be asked to pay something are thinking in racial  terms.If they were it would seem odd that they would be including non minority poor or people on government assistance.

    But for dems this is a vote getting tactic so get used to it.

  • Anonymous

    I think at this point MSNBC’s and it’s racist accusations are like the early seasons of South Park.  Just like killing Kenny, you know it’s going to pop up somewhere in every show, just in different and creative ways.

  • Anonymous

    Lol.  Don’t forget Unicorn, Janeane doesn’t think of things.  She let’s others think of them, then repeats…but with new tattoos, hipster glasses, and greasy hair!

  • Anonymous

     That I agree with. The left uses racism as an excuse for everything. Somethings rightfully so and others having nothing to do with racism.  Those who use it as an excuse for everything need to read the old story about the boy who cried wolf.

  • Sean68

    These obama supporters are playing a dangerous game, though. I think the more people who hear these kinds of frivolous and bad faith accusations of racism, the easier it will be for them to pull the lever for the GOP in 2012. I hope Obama hires Perry to be his campaign manager.

  • Norbit

    Let’s get the Statistics on the percentage of single, uncoupled childbearing women having babies before LBJ’s Welfare Society, and now, some 50 years later!

    Let’s see if the Democratic Party’s Welfare State has helped the black community and family unit, or devastated it.

    Let’s see if other ethnic groups, who have not been on generational welfare to the extent the black community has, have fared better or worse than their welfare-consuming counterparts.

    Querry:

    1)      Do Democratic Welfare policies encourage reckless, irresponsible childbearing; and in so doing, condemn each of these innocent children to an environment of drugs, crime, hopelessness and despair?

    2)      Can this be considered child abuse, and be prosecuted?

     

  • http://www.scoamf.com/2011/08/hitler-realizes-obama-is-stuttering.html Unicon

    Hopefully, Keith Olbermann’s staff is booking her next appearance as we speak !!!

    [Seriously... the left needs to save some of this good stuff until closer to the elections!!!]

  • Texan

    When Obama bailed out NBC they essentially became state run media.

  • http://twitter.com/Icabods Icabod

    You can put your fingers in your ears, but it is out there.   I read on post all of the time.  I don’t watch MSbNC or Fox.  I listen…..you should do the same.  Why do conservatives/republicans/teaparty thing that ALL democrats receive welfare?  Why?

  • http://twitter.com/Icabods Icabod

    sp think

  • Norbit

    I hate speaking ill of the mentally-challenged, but when you look at Garofalo, does something inside you just scream out “SKANK-HO!”? 

  • Anonymous

    I agree.  They really have become a self parody at this point.

  • Anonymous

    Jesus likes babies and black people!

    The more the merrier! 

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps Miss Perry could try to name a Republican , in her mind , who is not “racist’ , and a Democrat who is .

    Tried to watch this dreck , but the smarmy punk host and his mostly sneering lefty guests have the “Alan Colmes Effect ” that requires me to turn the channel .

  • Anonymous

    Paranoid much? 

  • Anonymous

    Who gets up in the morning and wants to watch this drivel?

  • Anonymous

    skyfet excited to get his new Obama cap in the mail today !

    However , no instructions were included , so he can’t wear it to the annual Village Square Dance / Goat Sacrifice tonight .

  • Anonymous

    Oh Norbit! 

    You might be racist because you’re an obvious racist!

    You’re also a horrible person because you want to cut off benefits to single moms doing God’s work! 

    Jesus would look down on you! 

  • Anonymous

    Lol, it only took a couple hours for my comment on a previous thread to be substantiated by another professional race-baiter:
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/thegrio-coms-goldie-taylor-says-if-herman-cain-could-become-color-of-water-he-would-do-it/#comment-335473542

  • Anonymous

    And because Liberals inherently see Blacks as inferior, which is why they are so overly, ridiculously protective of them.

  • Anonymous

    The only people who see racism everywhere they go ARE RACISTS.

  • Norbit

    Great question, Gloves.
    Alan seemed a bit more reasonable when he was on Hannity.

    Take a look at these questions I posted a little while ago:

    1)      Do Democratic Welfare policies encourage reckless, irresponsible childbearing; and in so doing, condemn many of the innocent children born to an environment of drugs, crime, hopelessness and despair?                                                                                       2)      Can this be considered child abuse, and be prosecuted?

    The GOP would be wise to make the EFFECTS of the Democratic Welfare State on the behavior of those receiving payments a central, national component – and dialogue – of next year’s campaign.

    With Cain as the VP, then exposing the Democratic Party Welfare Plantation, Romney / Cain may pick off up to 20% of the traditionally Democratic black vote for next year.

  • Norbit

    Jesus likes reckless, irresponsible childbearing, promoted by Democratic Welfare policies?

    What passage was that in?

  • Anonymous

    I’ve spent many years with Blacks from my days at school and 4 years in a service related job, where I was invited to have supper with many families, and it is a fact that Black families are the best of what this country is all about.

    Herman Cain is dead on. It isn’t racism which holds a Black person down, it’s the destruction of the Black family and in a related way, drugs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek Bulk Vanderhuge

    Why doesn’t MSNBC just come out and call for the arrest and imprisonment of all white people who don’t vote Democrat? The racial demonetization that has been coming from the media is just mind bending, 

  • http://twitter.com/TommyBennett Tom Bennett

    I love all the white conservatives complaining that cultural analysts point out that racism still  exists in this society and politics. 

  • Anonymous

    Hannity made a great point last night. 50% of the country doesn’t pay any taxes and that is one really big voting bloc. 

    Is that intentional on the Democrat’s part to create a huge voting bloc of people who don’t pay taxes and rely on government hand outs?

  • Anonymous

    A Romney/Cain ticket could rescue the black population of this country .

    Mr. Cain would be a great role model .

  • Anonymous

    Lol, nice Colmes analogy.

  • Anonymous

    “she explained, and the subtext to that being that the group is
    comprised of “unworking, unmarried poor black women who are welfare
    queens.”

    70% of black children are raised in such a home.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39993685/ns/health-womens_health/t/blacks-struggle-percent-unwed-mothers-rate/

  • Norbit

    What are you rambling about?

    Since when is whoring around, getting impregnated by multiple inseminators, and then expecting the working class taxpayers of the country to pay for all of it…God’s work?

    Democratic Welfare policies PROMOTE reckless childbearing!

    It brings innocent children into hopeless situations in exchange for a monthly increase in welfare payments.That should be considered child abuse!

    As an apparently religious person, I thought you would have more compassion for these unborn children, about to be brought into the world by irresponsible childbearers, who can’t even care for themselves, yet are having multiple offspring.

  • Norbit

    That’s a page out of Marxism 101.

    An ideologically-fixated left-wing media, from the 1960′s to today, caused this.

    There’s been a sustained attack on:
    1 –  family
    2 – religion
    3 – nationalism

    They fill the void through government-dependent populations.

    Next year, it’s critical the New GOP takes all (3) branches of government, and begins dismantling the Democratic Welfare State.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ram-Kumar/1150996573 Ram Kumar

    I think Michael Eric Dyson could give her a run for her money.

  • DEFENDER-90

    As a “racist”
    I use to feel alone in a crowd
    but now you look around these days
    and it seems theres a racist CRAZE!
    I’m a” racist” he’s a” racist” she’s a” racist” we’er” racist”
     wouldnt you like ba a” racist” too?
    I’m a” racist” he’s a “racist” she’s a “racist” too!!
    to be a” racist”
    all you have to do is dislike Obama’s policies to
    so come on and be a “racist” be be a” racist”
    be a” racis”t be be a “racist”.

  • Anonymous

    You think irresponsible people are going to stop having sex if you cut off benefits?

    Now Jesus just thinks you’re stupid!

  • Anonymous

    When there’s so many other interesting news stories out there, why publish one about Michelle Bachmann? Really, her 15 minutes are ticking away, and she should be fading back into obscurity any second now. Truly a useless politician, and a useless human being as well. No one is gonna vote for her to be president of a book club, let alone the United States. The only way she could make an impact is if she was hit by a bus.

  • Anonymous

    Most of it only exists in the minds of the race baiting Democrat pimps.

  • Texan

    How “progressive” of you. Classy.

    Btw, how many unwanted children have you adopted and given a great life to?

  • Norbit

    Racism – it’s the last refuge for a discredited and debunked ideology – Liberalism! 

    This is all the “civil-rights industry” Democrats have to hold on to, so they’ll be playing the race card – promoted by their Mainstream Media – incessantly until next year’s election.

    They’re trying to keep their black voters thouroughly dependent on the Democratic Welfare State, but Herman Cain just opened the barn door!
    The GOP is offerring something better – FREEDOM!

    Black America, SET YOURSELF FREE from the Democratic Plantation…vote the New GOP!

  • Norbit

    Yes, but it rears its ugly head primarily against white, hispanic and black conservatives and independents who dare challenge the Democratic Welfare State of perpetual dependency – you know, today’s Democratic PLANTATION!

  • Norbit

    Canadian Dem, didn’t you Dems just get your arses kicked by the conservative PM not too long ago? – despite his being trounced in the last debate (I watched it)?

    So libs here should be taking your advice, why?

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    Melissa Harris Perry accused someone of being a racist with absolutely no basis whatsoever?

    I am shocked!!!

  • DEFENDER-90

    It’s out of the playbook of Saul Alinsky. 

  • ROTFLMAO

    Not very many, WC!!   Not very many!
    I mean, she was on UP with Rachel Maddow on MSNBC
    before breakfast on a freaking Saturday morning for Gods sake!
    Genius programming!
    Really Genius!!!!

  • Norbit

    Not only do I think so, it’s a statistical and categorical fact.

    End the welfare payments, and you decrease the amount of unwanted, irresponsible childbearing.

    Anecdote:
    Recently, Judge Joe Brown had a woman pregnant with her 10th (that’s 10th) baby – ALL on welfare.

    The other nine babies (by inseminators she couldn’t identify – that’s a real caring mom):

    (5) were physically taken from her
    (3) imprisoned
    (1) killed

    These are the results of the Democratic Party’s Welfare Policies on the black “family” unit!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Antenucci/15502485 Chris Antenucci

    Melissa Harris Perry is one of the most ignorant and biased people I’ve seen on tv.  Her ideology blinds her to the truth and common sense.  How is it racist to say that all the americans who aren’t paying any income taxes should be paying them?  It’s not Bachmann’s fault that many of them are black, and it’s fair.  If we put policies in place that give them good jobs why should they be making money and not paying income taxes?  This is just the classic liberal go-to defense when you can’t argue with a conservative’s argument on its merits, you cry racism.  She realizes either consciously or subconsciously that if all those people who are dependent on the government now are enabled to be independent, people like her can’t use the racism excuse anymore and the democrat party will lose many of those voters.  If you broaden the tax base and “tax the poor”, there will be more revenue for the government, more growth in the economy, and more jobs for the poor.  So she must think giving poor people jobs is racist too.  I guess when you make a career out of talking about race and  racism and claiming it when it doesn’t exist, you see racism everywhere, like Harris Perry and Al Sharpton do. Cause let’s be honest, what else are they gonna talk about?  They haven’t done enough research to actually debate conservative ideas based on the facts, their extreme bias prevents that.  Why doesn’t she question why more people are on food stamps now than ever before?  How’s that working out for us?  What’s hurt black people more than anything are liberal policies that have made them dependent on the government, but of course she’ll never admit that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandra-Hesketh-Howerton/1617920024 Sandra Hesketh Howerton

    It’s not so much racism as it is ignorance to say that only 53% pay taxes.  That is just federal income tax.  The people like Bachmann who cite that statistic completely ignore the fact that many of the 47% who do not pay federal income tax pay a higher percentage of their income in almost all other taxes (sales, FICA, state and local taxes, etc.) than wealthy Americans do.  The federal income tax code was made progressive in large part because the other taxes are so extremely regressive.  If they had to pay federal income tax on top of the regressive taxes they pay, most of those 47% could not make ends meet.  Many are not able to even so.  The shame is not that they do not pay federal income tax but that they cannot make enough to pay it in the richest country in the world because most of the nation’s wealth goes unfairly to those who are already extremely wealthy.  And many of the extremely wealthy pay absolutely no tax either.  If they do pay it is usually less as a percentage of their income than the vast majority of Americans pay.  Income and wealth inequality in this country (the fifth worst in the world!) is a national disgrace.  That is the truth that Bachmann and others on the right refuse to acknowledge while they demonize hardworking, underpaid Americans.

  • Onne

    Everybody on the right hears Bachmann’s dog whistle loud and clear.

  • Tex45

    I would have more respect for Bachmann and these evangelical white supremacists if they had the courage of their convictions and didn’t hide behind the coding and word games.

  • Nancillarypeloslinton

    Michele Harris Perry’s rhetoric is typical of your average empty-headed liberal. Liberals really create nothing other than things that destroy or harm the economy-housing bubble anyone? Any liberal that lies denies that Democrats hand in the corruption on Wall Street, the banking system or the mortgage meltdown is a liar. There idea of creation is to steal somebody else’s money and then give it to one of Obama’s constituents. Obama sure as hell doesn’t have a clue how to create a job. When President George W. Bush ran things we had a booming economy, I personally received a 30% pay rise in the years he was in the White House. Liberals should just STFU, stand aside, quit pushing your idiotic agenda such as subprime mortgages for all the ‘po people and let us job creators create jobs. Heh!

  • Nancillarypeloslinton

    Every Obama-Gargler has an authentic set of BHO autographed kneepads.

  • Norbit

    No you wouldn’t!
    Or else you’d be condemning the Democrats race-baiting smears used as a political weapon…much like you did above.

  • Norbit

    Thx, I couldn’t think of the name!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH3ZLMM7CUKUHUIMK4TKXW6SQE John

    OH MY GOD!  THEY KILLED “SANITY”!

  • RACE BAITING@6 RESIST WE MUCH!

    Any truth to the report Rev Al will now have a march for not being booked on this show?

  • DEFENDER-90

    I must be a RACIST  because I don’t watch BET TV.

  • Anonymous

    Not only vulgar,
    a Liar

  • mmars

    And this woman is a professor?  Why?  She doesn’t demonstrate the ability to think reasonably.  What could she possibly have to offer our children?

  • Anonymous

    Sandra,

    facts are wasted on the Regressives
    they just come her to feel good about their hate

  • Anonymous

    If we put policies in place that give them good jobs

    them?

    You sound like the old woman who called into Cspan

  • Anonymous

    Except the Regressives actually thought about her in the first place

  • Anonymous

    The right, of course, boasts of its grand inclusiveness.  The 2008
    Republican Convention, for instance, was NINETY-EIGHT POINT FIVE PERCENT
    WHITE.  

    Less than one percentage point away from being purer white than Ivory Snow.  

    No racism in the Republican Party, just look at… at….  Well, just look at Herman Cain.

  • Nature Freak

    Margaret Thatcher was into the whole “tax the poor” thing. Did not work out like Maggie expected. Her tax the poor through the Community Charge (Poll Tax) ended up contributing to the downfall of Prime Minister Thatcher.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_Tax_Riots

    1990 Poll Tax Riot – Margaret Thatcher
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVok-8zJMKE

    Perhaps it is a good thing if Conservatives openly push for greatly increasing the taxes on the poor while lowering the tax rates on the rich. We do have universal suffrage here in the US (although Republicans are trying to end it). The poor or the 47 percent tend to vote at lesser rates than the 53 percent. This may finally push many poor people to actually vote as well as becoming involved with civic/community activism. This may awake a sleeping giant and that is a good thing.

    Piss of the 47 percent at your peril. The 47 percent have a voice in this country as well. There will be consequences if the poor are to be excessively taxed so the rich get even a freer ride than they do now. Bet on it.

  • Nature Freak

    There are a lot of poor White people in America (especially in my neck of the woods). Perhaps Conservatives can keep the tax rate the same for White people in the 47 percent category and raise taxes for Blacks in the same category. Race based taxing.

    I better not give Tea Baggers any ideas. They may actually really like the concept of race based taxes. There really does seem to be some racial animus by many in regards to this hatred for the 47 percent. There is a lot not being specifically said by conservatives. Sometimes you have to read between the lines. Code words? Would not surprise me one iota.

  • http://twitter.com/Zamir Zamir

    i need a political handbook for 2012 to see what is and isn’t racist

  • Anonymous

    Republican just want to stiff the poor even more while they’re getting screwed in the process.  Their simple minds don’t get that logic at all.  

  • Anonymous

    The only people who hear “racial coding” in what Bachman said are left wing lunatics such as yourself.

  • Anonymous

    When all that Libs have is a racism hammer, everything looks like racism nail.

    Libs are nearing self-immolation…Nancy Pelosi, OBAMO, and all the Lib media hacks who masturbate over them.

  • Anonymous

    you mean the guy who
    conservative author William F. Buckley said he was “very close to being an organizational genius

  • Anonymous

    you mean the guy who
    conservative author William F. Buckley said he was “very close to being an organizational genius

  • http://twitter.com/Doulos1066 Jannaeus

    She is fitting into a stereotype.  Racism is not the only option. Did she ever consider classism? Don’t play the race card unless it is definite.  

  • Anonymous

    The regressives believe fox teevee and the chain mails the receive

  • Anonymous

    Different story this time?

  • Anonymous

    substantiated how?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Antenucci/15502485 Chris Antenucci

    In the sentence before that I said people who aren’t paying income taxes.  It’d be improper grammar to keep repeating that.  I’m assuming you agree with my statements since you only commented on my grammar.  I wouldn’t wanna be in the position of defending someone who cries racism all the time.  It’s like the boy who cried wolf, after a certain number of times people start realizing she’s just compensating for her liberal beliefs not aligning with reality.  Herman Cain makes liberal heads explode because he succeeded without using his race at all, but in spite of it.  That goes against the core liberal belief that if you disagree with liberal policies targeting minorities you’re racist.  

  • NeverWrong

    Would you f*ing, racist, bigot PMS/LSDnbc’ers just shut the hell up…!!! Enough of your nightly and daily crap. You racists blacks are starting to piss us NONracist Whites off. The FCC should shut that GD hate mongering LSD/PMSnbc down for good. Nothin’ good ever comes from you scumbags. All anyone gets from LSDnbc is hour upon hour of hate and anger. Face it, FOX News has kicked your sorry asses for years and will always do so because they practice what they preach…Fair, Balanced and Unafraid News backed by The Factual TRUTH. At PMS/LSDnbc all we see and hear is kidde porn brought to their 9 viewers by a bunch of juvenile clowns who happen to be a bunch of idiotic, imbecilic, moronic ignoramuses. And of course let us not forget the gay, sissified girlieboyz, Chrissy ‘Tingles & Thrills’ Matthews, Lawrence o’Don’tKnowNutin’ell, Randy Madcow, and the overfed, redhead Ed Schultz. Then there is Joey Blowhard in the Morning, Dylan RATagain, Martin Batshit and Al NOTsharptonAtAll who fall into the giganticly large mouths full of hot air category. Nothing there but a bunch of FOS, P’sOS…!

  • Texan

    The hypocrisy meter has just been fubar’d.

  • Texan

    figures a dumb ass sock puppet such as yourself would think that was a compliment…

  • Texan

    *drink*
    *drink*

  • DEFENDER-90

    Are you familiar with the term evil genius?

  • Anonymous

    It’s shocking isn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    That’s rich coming from the side which needs a fleet of clown cars for their candidates, let alone pundits. LOL!

  • Anonymous

    hmmm. Embracing stupidity… Where have I seen that before? Oh yeah. There are a bunch of people always denigrating the well educated. I think that happens a lot on Fox. They seem to hate universities and the more prestigious, the more they freak out about it. On the other hand, they do seem to idolize folks like ‘Joe the Plumber’ even when they have to fabricate one. Yeah. I guess that’d be the R party, R wing, Fox lovers.

  • Anonymous

    I think all formal religions tell their followers to ‘be fruitful and multiply’ in some fashion or other – meaning to have a bunch of kids. It not all, many do.

  • Anonymous

    And I’m sure you have a link to another statistical fact which would tell us all just how prevalent such an anecdotal story might be (though there was no link to the anecdotal story above in the first place).

    In addition, I’m sure you have some statistical evidence that the welfare is the direct cause of this situation. This despite the 5 year limit on welfare since the mid-90′s… You seem stuck in the bigotry of the 60′s.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure if you watch Fox a lot, you are getting tired of hearing the race card played all the time. It seems those guys can’t wait to throw that accusation at the slightest excuse. I’d like to see your tally on that.

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to know how Herman Cain paid for college – especially an ivy league school since his dad couldn’t save enough to pay his tuition despite working three jobs. I don’t think he ever told us that.

  • Anonymous

    I believe it’s throughout the bible that Jesus cared for the children. Mary was unmarried, was she not? I guess you’re not a big student of the Bible. That’s ok. There’s no religious litmus test unless you’re running for office (which is unconstitutional so they can’t really formalize that policy, you know… it’s just an ‘unwritten rule’).

  • Anonymous

    In other news, “The owners of Zuccotti Park – Occupy Wall Street’s home base – have
    pocketed nearly $700,000 in government handouts since the 9/11 terror
    attacks.” Source: New York Daily News

    It would take a long time for the poor welfare mom so much ink has spilled over to make up $700k in handouts. It never ceases to amaze me how R’s idolize a ‘successful’ business that pads its profits with our tax dollars… and yet go off their rockers over feeding poor kids.

    Amazing.

  • Lallen422

    What is “reckless, irresponsible childlbearing”? Most childbearing is literally a bloody mess. Please explain Mr. Mom

  • Lallen422

    Reckless childbearing sounds ridiculous. Seriously, people do need to be responsible adults and take care of the children they bring into this world, but I seriously doubt they are driven by a Democratic political force to reproduce.

  • Lallen422

    It seems like he mentioned something about that on Lawrence

  • Lallen422

    No to both 1 and 2. No further questions

  • Lallen422

    Norbit I think you might be sexist. You think women get themselves pregnant from a toilet seat or some other magic. You certainly are putting blame on the person most likely to be the primary caregiver. Fathers need to be accountable, pay child support and not quit their jobs to get out of paying child support.

  • Lallen422

    Who are you to judge? Marriage is a value of yours but not everyone feels the same way about marriage. You just want to impose your values on others.

  • Lallen422

    Good luck with that

  • Norbit

    It’s the sacrifice of innocent children, born to satisfy the self-serving wants of the irresponsible girls and women having these children – then relying on society, through the Democratic Welfare State, to pay for their entire upbringning (such as it is).

    My values? These are Huma Values! 

  • Norbit

    They said that of Hitler and Pol Pot, as well!
    Maybe Libs are hoping Obama can be included in the group?

  • Anonymous

    Since blacks are not allowed in the mormon church I don’t see that happening.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rpolunsky Richard Polunsky

    Keep perpetuating the myth that large numbers of people pay no taxes.  They pay sales taxes, if they’re lucky enough in this economy to get any job they pay payroll taxes, if they still have a house they pay property taxes, utility taxes, you name it.  They just don’t make a high enough income to pay income taxes – which case they’re probably paying a bigger percentage of their income in sales taxes already.

  • Anonymous

    And liberals believe MSNBC, Al Gore, (prophet), and all the Earth First stuff they read…….

    it works BOTH ways…..

  • Anonymous

    I know for a fact that there are black Mormons…..

  • Yukon Jack

    AS the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water but can’t make him drink.

    And in that analogy I am more than likely offending the horse.

  • Anonymous

    Come on!
    Who is really going to believe that statement????

    NOBODY watches MSNBC.
    NOBODY gets CurrentTV.

  • Lallen422

    Oh okay women just have children by themselves, and men are off the hook according to you. Whaaat?

  • Anonymous

    Fact: These perpetuating poor that are paying a
    bigger percentage of their income in taxes are screaming for more of a fix for
    even higher taxes like a junky hooked on drugs because they follow and tote the
    liberal myth that government does and should be a better source than the
    individual in making decisions with their own money due to their intellectual
    abilities and educational level! Thus these epic failures for non self reliance will always help me vote for a full slate of GOP candidates in 2012!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Working Christians which the left call Kooks
    for their beliefs find in their hearts daily to feed the poor much more than
    even the government social programs that you need more of in taxes but I
    personally would rather see more gain faith in GOD continuing in their good
    works without asking for anything in return! That is the best way to feed the
    poor through the good works of man himself than government!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: The republicans again believe in self reliance where all work to share in the pie of wealth! Not a free ride for the able!

  • Michelle

    Wow, I’d better tell than to the black family I go to church with.  Seriously, inform yourself, before you are embarrassed further. 

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Well, the Republicans are getting screwed too, because they’re not sharing in the wealth and don’t even realize it, but instead of going after the real criminals they are going after people who ended up poor through no fault of their own hit hard times.

  • Anonymous

    What ISN’T racism anymore???

    When it doesn’t apply!!

  • AliveStillKickin

    I agree….Lallen422….Democrats don’t want more babies…They murder babies…..in the womb.

  • Lallen422

    Not quite and you only care when they are in the womb. If the newborns are getting taken care of by welfare then they are living off the govt teat. You should adopt some the unwanted children and raise them for 18 years if you really give a sh it which I know you don’t hypocrite.

  • Grayce

    Housing bubble: blame the first-time buyer.
    The bubble involved toxic loans; the loans were approved by “expert bankers” helping first-time buyers navigate the decision process; the decision process included an “expert banker” approving the assessed value of the house in question so the buyer could be confident of its market value.
    How fast can you say hot potato? The expert bankers, collecting their commissions from banking executives, then wrapped the mortgages in paper like old fish and sold them to institutional investors. When the bubble burst, nothing toxic fell on the original bankers.
    Buyers were stuck with overpriced houses with mortgages that were blindly approved (Yes Freddie and Fannie helped). Investors, mostly your pension fund and mine, took the hit on the investment. The buyer took the hit on their equity. The banker took the commission and sale price of the bundle and laughed all the way to the bank.

  • Grayce

    And one example proves a trend.

  • Grayce

    Vote the man or woman; take either party with a grain of salt.

  • Grayce

    Dismantle away! Just be sure to put something in its place to transition us. You know, actually represent the people who live in the present.
    Let’s hear the platform for moving from here to there, not just “here is wrong.” Don’t even imagine that someone without access to advantage can leap up and find a way into the economic engine.
    Ideology is abstract and makes a great guideline, but when someone is drowning you can’t stand on the shore and yell “Swim for god’s sake! Swim.” Not everyone was born with a swimming pool and tutor. Not every city family has a plot of ground to grow their own food. Not every city kid knows how hard it is to graduate college.
    Dismantle away if you believe that the “party” that wins the election has no need to represent all the other people in the country. But a party can only provide candidates. In the end, the men and women who are elected take the country in the state it is and have to get it to desired state without losing any of its citizens. Let’s hear the platform for that.
    Grousing is so over.

  • http://societyfordaintydamsels.wordpress.com Fennel

    To me the point is not liberal vs conservative, news channel etc.  Its the fact that Michelle Bachman wants to tax the class of people with the least means.  Really how mean, detestable of her.  I notice how she doesn’t go after the many major corporations that never pay a dime in taxes. 
    Yes I realize the image of people on welfare are blacks.  But that is an over generalization.  Many senior citizens of what ever ethnic background are on public assistance since their retirement funds, social security isn’t enough for them to live on.  Especially for those with inadequate Rx plans. 
    Many people with disabilities, especially mental, need to rely on these programs since it is exceptionally diffficult to  find employment.   On the other hand there are organizations trying to change that. See below.
    I work for a rehab center where the vast majority are on entitlement programs. However the center is place to help the clients get paid employment.  It is a place with headquarters in NYC with branches throughout mos to the US.  Yes most are getting help from the govt.  However they are doing what they can to get out of poverty.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HJQFDPBF4VNN2MDDKVN7T3NVTA Maribeth J

    I am a Master’s student in Multicultural Counseling and Development. The projected growth of this area of counseling in the United States over the next five years is a whopping %18. I wonder why? Because we are a multicultural nation. NOW. That said, this is — as none of these folks mention — this tax-paying, big-government argument is a case of CLASSISM, of which RACISM is a subset. It’s true. You hear more about the government programs that support lower classes but when taxpayer money travels through wormholes in the top tier, they go unquestioned. Period.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000176834332 Jas Conley

    You are assuming “racist” people have knowledge of their racism. We are all ignorant (on different subjects) and we are all racist to some degree. Institutional racism is not always a thought out plan. If one does not guard against it racism will creep into policies.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000176834332 Jas Conley

    Racism will continue in one form or another. What I heard that disturbed me more was “We spent a generation pretending that Social Security is an investment program and not a welfare program”  and everyone let this slide ……….Wrong! Social Security is an investment program that I have invested in (like the majority of Americans)  since I was 15 and I plan to draw on this investment in my old age. 

  • Anonymous

    More importantly, who set the agenda and surely someone at this channel doesn’t agree with it and can get a hold of an email or document to leak to their competitors to bury them because it is now bordering on hysteria.  This ridiculous organization has all of its talking heads using the same terms on all of their shows and they don’t think anyone will notice?  The common theme is to never ask for evidence of proof of a charge of racism and to use the word over and over every day. 

    The real hypocrisy is that this organization fails to see that they allow WHITE MEN AND WOMEN – O’Donnell, Hayes, Schultz and Maddow and a British Pakistani man, Martin Bashir and an African America – Al Sharpton to actively and daily SPEW AND SPREAD RACISM by saying that a black conservative man is not black enough or wants to be the “color of water.” 

  • CRAIG GRAU

    I SUPPORT THE WHOLE OWS FOR WHAT THEY R DOING  THEY R STUNDING UP FOR WHAT I BELEIVE IS RIGHT THEY ARE NOT CAUSING TROUBLE  LIKE SOME OF THE POLICE SAYING THEY ARE IT IS SOME OF THE POLICE THAT R ONES XAUSING TROUBLE LIKE I HAVE SEEN SO FAR

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  • http://www.facebook.com/nowthatsonyourside Brandon Broze

    How long are these ultra-sensitive idiots on the Left gonna keep up this “everyone on the Right is racist and speaks in code” meme??  Do I have to hear about some crap like this EVERY F*CKING DAY? I swear to god…

    Is EVERYTHING a right-winger says now “code” for “black” or “hispanic”??  Where does this race-baiting END?  Is this REALLY how ‘intellectual’ liberals behave?  It’s such a lazy-ass, tired argument. “When Michele Obama talks about the poor, she’s really talking about blacks.” HOW do you know?? Yes, the Right does still seem to have more flexibility to say things that COULD be racist or seen as racist, but how do you know for sure THAT is what Michele meant?

    That EVERY Republican in the country, including moderate and liberal ones, thinks “black” whenever they hear a fellow Republican talking about “the poor”??  Really…?  I’m sorry, but I’m not THAT f*cking cynical about my fellow man.  Harris Perry is verging pretty close on left-wing demagoguery here, if you ask me, along with all the other race-baiting jackoffs.

    Pro tip: the South (esp. the Deep South) has probably the LARGEST proportion of conservatives and/or Republicans of any region in the country. It’s also THE POOREST region. A lot of poor whites as well as blacks. You’re telling me that some of those Republican voters ONLY think about blacks when they hear “the poor” and not any of their fellow whites, esp. those who may have grown up in trailers or trailer parks?

  • http://www.facebook.com/nowthatsonyourside Brandon Broze

    In a way, it seems to me to be yet another rhetorical tool of the “elites” on the left in the media trying to feel all self-righteous and “good” about themselves.

    “Oh, well, at least we’re not those racists in the GOP who always have to talk in code and can’t just admit that they think black people are inferior and that hispanics are dirty.”

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