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Morning D’oh! Chris Christie Falsely Claims President Obama Had Filibuster-Proof Majority For 2 Years

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In an appearance on Tuesday’s Morning Joe, New Jersey Gov. and Mitt Romney-endorser Chris Christie joined host Joe Scarborough in the shared delusion that President Obama, at the beginning of his term, enjoyed a filibuster-proof majority for two years, and “frittered” it away. There’s a fair debate to be had as to whether the President took full advantage of that majority, but it is a fact that even the most generous calculation reveals that the Democrats’ obstruction-free window lasted 7 months, not two years.

This wasn’t the only big, fat steamer in the segment (Christie tried to sell the House GOP’s renege on the payroll tax deal as an example of Republicans not obstructing the President), but it was the biggest and steamiest. While this sort of thing is to be expected from a politician trying to get elected, I had come to expect better than this from Joe Scarborough, whose appeal as a commentator rests largely on his knowledge of the inner workings of congress.

It takes 60 votes to overcome a filibuster in the US Senate, which is now the default to get pretty much anything done. As Scarborough well knows, the Democrats didn’t reach that 60-seat threshold in the Senate until Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) was sworn in on July 7, 2009. They lost that majority upon the swearing-in of Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) on Feb. 4, 2010, just under seven months later. While state politician Christie can possibly be forgiven such an error, someone with Joe Scarborough’s reach and influence ought to have better than a 71% margin of error.

As Mother JonesKevin Drum points out, though, the actual amount of time the Democrats held a filibuster-proof majority, when you factor in the late Sen. Ted Kennedy‘s illness and the winter recess, amounts to 14 weeks.

What non-Democrats often fail to realize is that a Democratic majority isn’t like other majorities. While Republicans can be relied on to lock arms and stay put no matter what kind of political pepper spray they get hit with, there are always about 10% of Democrats willing, nay, eager to undercut their own party. To the extent that Barack Obama ever had a filibuster-proof majority, he still had to water everything down just to get past his own party. They are the reason the President ended up with a too-small stimulus package that was 40% tax cuts, just like Mitt Romney wanted.

Even given those limitations, though, the President did manage to get a few minor things done, like saving the auto industry, reversing 750,000-per-month job losses, passing health care reform (I can’t wait for Republicans to try and explain to Americans how they’ll be better off when insurance companies can go back to throwing them off their health benefits again), rescuing the economy from a new Great Depression, and killing so many terrorists that even Republicans began to complain, just to name a few. There are people on all sides of the political spectrum who would argue he could have done more (or in the Republicans’ case, should have done less), but it’s just not accurate to say he “frittered away” that tiny window.

Gov. Christie has the excuse that he’s shilling for Mitt Romney, but Joe Scarborough knows better. Morning Joe has earned influence beyond Scarborough’s conservative ideology because even those who disagree with him have come to expect him to tell the truth. If he wants to retain that influence, Scarborough needs to live up to that expectation.

Here’s the clip, from MSNBC’s Morning Joe:


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  • Anonymous

    that is why we left this state, they elect miserable idiots

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    Suprise surprise. A rightwinger telling a lie.

    This must be the first time.

    A rightwing Christian would never lie.

  • Anonymous

    what they forget is –even if dems do get majorities…they are not mindless drones who walk lockset into the fire taking the whole country and the party into hell..

    here is some truth..
    if the economy says bad or gets worse..the cons will lose the congress and maybe get the presidency..
    or if the economy gets better–the cons can keep the house and not get the presidency..

    so that is their choice…
    keep what they have or lose what they have in order to gain a long shot that will have little power–A PRESIDENT WITH BOTH HOUSES THAT BELONG TO DEMS..

    you know-bird in the hand?

    i do not mind a conservative congress actually–i like the balance…but what we do not need are children who just say no—to be difficult…right now the gop is in their terrible 2s and if they do not wake up real fast..
    they will lose it all again….
    WORDS FOR THE WISE~

  • david r

    I’d like to see Tommy put his investigative talents on who got the bailout money.  But that would reveal several loyal Democratic donors getting sizable government handouts.  The analysis of the filibuster proof majority was interesting.  My question:  why not let them filibuster?  I can remember filibusters dating back to the 50′s.  They usually fail when confronted with a resolute majority.  Tommy the True Believer.

  • Anonymous

    Right – Olympia and Susan never break ranks- honestly TC….you shouldn’t criticize others for their lack of honesty when you throw in a statement like the “republcans lock arms” when you know indeed they do not.  Yes, the democrats owned the WH, the Senate and the Congress….a fact you cannot deny.  It is how Obamacare got passede -  all democrats locked arms, accepted bribes and passed that horrendous piece of legislation on a purly partison vote.

  • Anonymous

    Surprise, another example of conservative revisionist history that tries to make them look like victims when they aren’t.  Ugh.

  • http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/630-E-Lovell-Dr-Troy-MI-48085/24509418_zpid/ Louisa Gismonde Calcaterra

    Even during the Christmas season, you continue being a grade A bitch.  What’s up with that?
    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/BusyDay2day Father Time

    One of  the reasons I thought Christie was a serious guy is that he hadn’t been someone to float the rhetoric like most do on television.  I see I am wrong.  Too bad, too.  Add him to the heap of nonsensical goofballs.

  • http://twitter.com/runforfun54 American

    WHHHAAATTTT???!!!  Republicans lying?  I’m shocked!  

  • Anonymous

    fat idiot.

  • Anonymous

    Give em a break! They had too much moonshine!

  • Anonymous

    Bubbles is out of her element, that’s why she identifies with Barry

  • Anonymous

    Fat nasty and racist Joe.

    What a pair.

  • Anonymous

    REMEMBER THIS CONS.

    YOUR TALKING POINTS ARE WRONG YOU CONS

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. Although, Tina_Tampon fits the mold of “conservative” scum bag better than that of a  “bitch”. She is actually pretty evenly loony as the rest of the mouth breathers here. Just not so much a bitch is all.

  • http://twitter.com/Bennybombom Ben

    That’s weird…not the first time I see Christie telling lies,but Joe knows better…

    I don’t get it.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    A most astute observation:

    “What non-Democrats often fail to realize is that a Democratic majority
    isn’t like other majorities. While Republicans can be relied on to lock
    arms and stay put no matter what kind of political pepper spray they get
    hit with, there are always about 10% of Democrats willing, nay, eager to undercut their own party.
    To the extent that Barack Obama ever had a filibuster-proof majority,
    he still had to water everything down just to get past his own party.”

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Virtually unheard of, isn’t it?

  • Gloves E. Donahue

    You have to cut Morning Joe some slack. A recent documentary about the program showed that Joe is up all night drinking, playing cards and shooting craps. Sometimes he’s too tired to put on a tie.
    Lighten up, yo.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    I wouldn’t call it purely partisan, and certainly not “purly partison”.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Not just let them, make them. If you’re going to block proposed legislation, you need to work for. I’m sick of Reid’s constantly handing out welfare to a McConnell all to willing to accept it. A pox on both of these senators.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    By that standard, Texas would be empty. I’m not leaving Texas to the idiots.

  • Jane

    Thank you, Tommy.   This is one of your best pieces.   As a liberal, I’m a quasi-fan of Joe Scarborough, because  more times than not, he’s accurate.     But for Joe to  allow Christie to bellow on ad nauseum was inexcusable.  

    But again,  they having texting “love”.       :)

  • Anonymous

    Republicans who reach across the aisle are labeled RINO’s (by their own, to be sure.)

    Democrats who reach across the aisle are labeled moderates. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Stephenson/663097237 Robert Stephenson

    But again,  they having texting “love”.       :)

    Mika and Valerie Jarrett ?

  • Anonymous

    It was a factual error, yes

    But good god the elephant in the room is the elephant in the room which is the main topic of discussion where both Joe and Christie are dead on. And it is the essence of the failure of this administration

    Granted this special-needs group that took control of congress has been an especially contemptible group of characters but presidents can’t just pull out all diplomatic representation and close down the embassy in congress if it’s taken over opposition who every now and get to hurt your precious feelings

  • Anonymous

    Obese wind bag.

  • 12voltman1

    He is not in the race.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clark/100000610136790 Arthur Clark

    This is coming from someone, with a clown avatar…… Priceless!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I’m not leaving Texas to the idiots.”

    Son, as long as you are still there, Texas will always have idiots.

  • Anonymous

    Go back to blowing Barney Frank- no wonder he calls your ass his personal Holiday Inn

  • Anonymous

    suck Barney Frank’s wiener, you turd eating fool.

  • Anonymous

    But you still eat his dung

  • Anonymous

    why is your mouth in the shape of Barney Frank’s scrotum and why does be ram it home into your asshole

  • Matt Ketcham

    Nice try Tommy, but Christie remains the beacon of sanity in the Republican party. Save the jabs for 2016 when it’s Christie v. Elizabeth Warren.

  • Anonymous

    Next up – Tommy will claim Holder didn’t really play the race card.

  • Anonymous

    wow how beautiful is your writing, thank God is documented, why is it that my fellow conservatives are so angry and violent 

  • Anonymous

    I am getting sick and tired of your writing, shut the hell up, your writing make me sick 

  • Anonymous

    Suck me off  you liberal POS

  • Anonymous

    Then don’t read, just blow me you liberal

  • Anonymous

    Hard to believe Tommy wrote this article without once mentioning to the two Republican senators from Maine or the ones that intentionally undercut the Republican leadership to gain power (McCain, Graham … or in the past DeWine, Chafee, Warner).  And by “hard to believe” I mean “Very easy to believe and not surprising at all.”

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    You seem to be terribly, terribly confused. And deeply disturbed. And vulgar.

  • Anonymous

    Tommy, isn’t carrying Obama’s water getting tireing? You are like the spelling police on this thread, nitpicky. It’s beneath you. And boring.

  • Anonymous

    This is exactly the kind of right wing tripe I’ve come to expect from both of these guys, including the widely debunked notion iterated by Joe earlier in the program “everyone knows the surge worked” when middle eastern experts put it around fifth in effect.

    The obstruction by a few conservadems like the Nelson twins and Joe Liarman gave us all the cave-ins to right wing orthodoxy in the first two years, and since we have Republicans sabotaging the economy and anything else they can to defeat Obama.

    Great article, Tommy, nice to know someone out there is paying attention!
      

  • http://twitter.com/12barbluz Lightnin’ James

    Repuiblicans are such liars.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, lets not let the facts get in the way of a good story.  Facts are known to have a liberal agenda.

  • Anonymous

    Please don’t stop!

  • Holistic

    Tommy, stop covering for the President. When you do this, YOU look stupid not the President.

  • Anonymous

    You reinvented yourself flush so you could say something “cute”?  

    You’re so predictable and transparent.  Too bad your hero isn’t.

  • 12voltman1

    F#cK off Stonepark!

  • Anonymous

    well of course not – you feel right at home with them. 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know who you are Hertz – but quit.
    You’ve been reported.  

    I have a strange feeling that you are a liberal – reinvented yourself to stir the old pot.

  • Anonymous

    REMEMBER THIS MOOSENUTTY.

    YOUR BRAIN IS EMPTY MOOSENUTTY

  • Anonymous

    Way to argue the story. LOL!!!

  • Anonymous

    OMG the excuses the lame attempts to justify Tommy’s time table.  
    Obama got elected – Nov/08
    Democrats lost Congress – Nov/10

    Oh, yah – have to give them time off for holidays and stuff, so that doesn’t count – bathroom breaks – lunch, dinner, etc.  All take time!

  • Anonymous

    Idiot, he was 100 percent accurate, but you wouldn’t know that since you watch your stupid fox propaganda.

  • Anonymous

    Oh look, another “conservative” scum bag inviting herself to be ridiculed. I suppose Shit-Park5 was taken. So you’ve taken up the bitch title and are ready to roll! Good on ya, girl!

  • Anonymous

    Yoh Tommy – when are you doing the story about Shultz lying about telling democrats not to vote and denying he ever told them not to vote in the midterms?  Proof and no fancy math involved.  

  • Hout Bosques

    With the not-entirely-unexpected demise of this other creature early this morning, the mantle now passes to Tommy Christopher as the most objective & nuanced small media critique, especially difficult giving he swims in waters that once bore a boar like Tucker Carlson & are maintained to this day by the still deeply conflicted Dan Abrams.

    “Lie Rating Service, one-time Moodys for the politically moody, dead at 52.

    December 20, 2011

    St. Petersburg, Fla. 

    Long-time local resident and editor of a leading on-line political statements ratings service, Bill Adair, confirmed late this a.m. that earlier today, his baby, Politifact, died of complications from severely ruptured standards received in an earlier collision with a large heavily funded vehicle with an out-of-state license plate with a number starting with the letter “R”, apparently driven by a pale middle-aged male sporting the sort of self-mocking D.A. haircut that went out of style everywhere in America since 1968 except Wisconsin.

    “I don’t know what happened”, said the long-time senior editor at the St. Peterberg Times. “Ever since that torrid night in the Congressional Coffee Shop with the Quarterly, we’ve always wanted our baby to be extra careful to avoid exactly this sort of obvious sell-out to a sleazy agenda. But I guess when the bucks are that big, anyone, no matter how pure their intentions may have been to start with, is just bound to get f****d.”

  • Hout Bosques

    That would be 54 MONTHS, not years.

    To paraphrase from when President Lincoln passed – Now, Politifact belongs to the lobbyists.

  • http://flavors.me/mbrosen mbrosen

    Whoops.

    Someone didn’t watch the clip.

    Revise your headline.

    Christie never said “fillibuster-proof.” He said “Democratic Congress,” as in, Democratic majorities in both the House and the Senate. 

    Factually true. 

    Watch the clip.

    Scarborough said “fillibuster-proof” in his rant.

    Christie nodded and said “I agree” following the entire rant, which included several points.

    That Christie said “I agree” while not line-item correcting Joe’s error on the two-year timeline, fine. Enjoy your red meat. 

    Just swap out Christie’s name for Scarborough’s in the headline and you can keep it.

    Otherwise, a BS, erroneous, link-baiting headline — aka, token Tommy Christopher!

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    I noticed the same thing. You are correct. 

    Christie does say, at the end, “if i ever had a filibuster proof majority in my first two years, imagine what could have happened…” which is still accurate. He doesn’t say Obama did, for the entire two years.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chasrmartin Charlie Martin

    Oh, Tommy, don’t be a dope.  Obama had a massive majority in the House, and was at most one vote short (after Scott brown was elected) in the Senate.  What happened then?  Why, Obamacare passed by the majority using parliamentary tricks to avoid the 60 vote margin.. So perhaps it wasn’t  ”veto proof” — it was merely so large, and so unprincipled, as to permit the O Administration to pass whatever they wanted.

  • Anonymous

    Does your mommy know you are playing on the computer little boy?

  • Joke Scareborough

    Keep shilling for Obama Tommy, maybe he will invite you over to the White House for coffee and give you your campaign marching orders, as he has done with the entire MSNBC line-up, the NYT, WaPo, Huffpo, TPM, ThinkProgress and just about every other bat-sh*t crazy leftwing blog.

  • Joke Scareborough

    Who wouldn’t want to see Chris Christie giving little Tommy Christopher his comeuppance?
    Man I’d order the pay per view of that!
    Tommy wouldn’t last a minute in a face to face confrontation with Christie.

  • Anonymous

    It shouldn’t be a surprise that not only does he resemble Limbaugh, he lies like him too!

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant Prose, loser.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

  • Anonymous

    Hey Joel!

    When is that Roger Ailes indictment going to come down that you promised would be any day, like a year and a half ago?

  • Anonymous

    Hey Tommy!

    Why weren’t you invited to the Presstitute meeting today?

    They don’t appreciate you Tommy. Admit it.

    You’re at least a $20.00 one, and his awesomeness treats you like a $5.00 one.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Dick, blow me

  • Anonymous

    We just requested for your insulting bs to be flagged

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    Typical.

    He didn’t REALLY say it.

  • 12voltman1

    Hello Claude Rains.

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    More believable if you leave off the last sentence, but bravo for you.

  • Anonymous

    shut your mouth when you blow me that’s what you do to Barney

  • Anonymous

    I guess he has something in common with the GOP candidates then.

  • Anonymous

    Tote that water, Tommy.  Tote that water.

  • Anonymous

    But first Tina Tampa can’t debunk Tommy’s arguments but posts a comment anyway.

  • Anonymous

    Sheesh- this is really bad headline writing by Mediaite. 

    Why not just say Christie is using KKK slogans and go all the way down the MSNBC path?

  • Anonymous

    One thing is for sure, Christie can certainly “filibuster” a buffet…zinngg.  When I read this article I can hear him wheezing.

  • Anonymous

    It’s really hard to remember that the Dims didn’t have a filibuster proof majority by 1 vote when they rammed through ObamaCare anyway.

    An easy mistake to make, since the Dims behaved like they had one, and succeeded.

  • 12voltman1

    Got any gum on you Dick?

  • Anonymous

    Oh you got him good Tommy. Definitely worth writing a whole article about. Never miss an opportunity to cheerleader for Obama. HACK

  • Anonymous

    Way to sound like an insane person. LOL!!!

  • Anonymous

    with your vulgarity not helping the conservative cause, white trash is white trash, we are proud red necks

  • john smith III

    Fact checking and refuting mis-information and lies from elected officials are not examples of cheerleading. A responsible press and media have as their primary duty to establish fact from lie. Perhaps if the national media were so inclined to seek the truth post 9/11, 4500 of our men would still be alive.

  • john smith III

    Cheerleading was what our 43rd President did while attending his private ALL MALE high school. Looking up skirts at cheerleader snatch wasn’t an option! So, he didn’t do it to get laid…or did he?

  • http://www.facebook.com/tonykoch1 Tony Koch

    funny how mediate never does this when lefties screw up about the anointed one…..

  • Anonymous

    Tommy, you’re technically correct, but you failed because of your liberal bias to expose an important point here.

    The Dem’s are claiming that the Republicans won’t work with them.  Well, during this time that the Dem’s had, oh, about 58 or 59 Senate seats and only needed 2 or 3 Republicans to join them to pass filibuster-proof legislation, they couldn’t put together bills MODERATE enough to convince TWO OR THREE moderate Republicans, such as Snowe and Collins, to join them.

    This little nugget of info kinda puts the lie to the Democrats’ claim that they try to work with Republicans on bills.  If ya can’t put something together “bipartisan” enough for the Maine Senators to go along with, you’re really tacking pretty far to the left, buddy.

    I look forward to your continued twisty road of logic.

  • Megan Williams

    not anymore sweetcheeks.  Now there IS no bias…only big fat lies that you suck up like candy and spew.

  • Anonymous

    At least you agree that Obama Cares.

  • Anonymous

    When he uses them, we will.

  • Anonymous

    At least you agree that Obama Cares.

  • http://twitter.com/tifosies tifosies

     Guess we see why dick hurts. He gets none/wants some.

  • http://twitter.com/tifosies tifosies

    Always a pleasure to hear from the “religious right.”

  • http://twitter.com/tifosies tifosies

    Fox won the right to lie, what’s to indict?

  • Anonymous

    On other news Christie hasn’t been able to see his johnson without a mirror for the past 20 years.

  • Anonymous

    Too many gay references here DH, you should just come out of the closet my friend, plus your family probably already knows.  It really is okay to be gay, and just think of not having to pick up strangers at the airport and having a normal healthy relationship.

  • Anonymous

    He is in the middle of a deep awakening. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    I don’t get it. I’m not gay. How did Barney Frank get involved. If I were gay, I think I could do a little better than Frank. Thank you very much.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    Wow, does that pass as a clever slam in rightwing world?

    It’s not the things you say that are off-putting. It’s not even your palpable hatred or bigotry.

    It’s that everything you say is so lame, tired and without substance. And yet behave as if you are some sort of rhetorical genius.

    Try to say something worth saying. you might like it

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    i love the liberal spin here.  Mr O had a filibuster Democrats majority for the first year they had congress.  Also if they didn’t play all the games with the senate seat it would have been 2 years.  Also every congress has there RECESS!!!!  If ya dems are whining about the recess then the prez has the ability to call back congress.  Mr Obama for 3 years has been a bystander in chief.  Nothing is ever his fault.

  • http://profiles.google.com/jonshore Jon Shore

    Best. Governor. Ever. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/jonshore Jon Shore

    Maybe my ears deceive me but it sounded like Joe is the one that mentioned the filibuster-proof Senate. 

  • Anonymous

    Tommy. You have to listen to the actual tape, and think critically! Not just post stuff from democrat headquarters! You are just being a propagandist.

  • Michael Munsey

    Christie and the author are both wrong.  A filibuster requires 41 votes, irregardless of empty seats.  The Republicans lost the ability to get to 41 in January when the new Senate was seated, without Norm Coleman.  Franken’s confirmation was icing on the cake.  The filibuster proof majority lasted from January 2009 – February 2010.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cerullo/100000712050672 John Cerullo

    I love the liberal spin too.. the truth for a refreshing change.  But hey, you can always turn on the boob tube and get a refill of your nonsense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Cerullo/100000712050672 John Cerullo

    Send Christie a gift certificate to Dominos.  He needs to explode.

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