Glenn Beck makes Jospeh Goebbels look like a Mormon.

A CIA report? You don’t say. My, those guys are a bunch of wacky conspiracy theorists, aren’t they?

I caught bits and pieces of his show today. It was actually quite good.

And you are reporting on it? Get a life, alleged reporter.

So a 7 year old CIA report is proof that the Caliphate is happening now in Egypt and is supported by the communists and far left?

Quite a stretch, Henny Glenny.

Ever notice that really no one disputes Beck with any facts? Just name calling and ridicule. He’s on to something and it scares people. They will let you know who they fear by their actions.

I’ve read comment after comment from the left wing trolls on this site regarding Beck. Never has one disputed anything with fact. Know why? They can’t. First of all they are too stupid to do the homework it would take and if they did do the homework – they’d find he’s right.

BFD said:
So a 7 year old CIA report is proof that the Caliphate is happening now in Egypt and is supported by the communists and far left?

Quite a stretch, Henny Glenny.

Clearly you didn’t hear what Glenn had to say. He clearly stated that it provided the provisions for it to occur, not that he knew that it would occur.

Silly libs….let’s stick with facts please.

Nacho said:
Glenn Beck makes Jospeh Goebbels look like a Mormon.

HAHAHAAHHAHA! That’s hilarious!!!!! Good one Nacho!!!

FleshBomb said:
Ever notice that really no one disputes Beck with any facts? Just name calling and ridicule.

You can’t dispute hypothetical crazy paranoid conspiracy theories.

All you can do is ridicule them.

FleshBomb said:
Ever notice that really no one disputes Beck with any facts? Just name calling and ridicule. He’s on to something and it scares people. They will let you know who they fear by their actions.

I’ve read comment after comment from the left wing trolls on this site regarding Beck. Never has one disputed anything with fact. Know why? They can’t. First of all they are too stupid to do the homework it would take and if they did do the homework – they’d find he’s right.

He’s right and we are all Fucked.

Buy Gold.

BFD said:
So a 7 year old CIA report is proof that the Caliphate is happening now in Egypt and is supported by the communists and far left?

Quite a stretch, Henny Glenny.

Here is a prime example of one of the stupid trolls. Nothing to back up his assertions. CIA report? Uh…ahhhh…it was 7 years ago and proves nothing!

Never occurs to the idiot that this has been going on for a long time and Egypt is possibly one more piece to the puzzle.

BFD said:
You can’t dispute hypothetical crazy paranoid conspiracy theories.

All you can do is ridicule them.

Point proven. You can dispute hypothetical crazy paranoid conspiracy theories. 911 truthers can and have been totally debunked with fact.

You choose not to cause you have no idea what your talking about. You’re a useful idiot.

FleshBomb said:
You choose not to cause you have no idea what your talking about. You’re a useful idiot.

I will admit I am having trouble proving Australia is not going to be Chinese province soon.

FleshBomb said:
911 truthers can and have been totally debunked with fact.

Not to them they haven’t, just like you crazy teabloggers and you Beck conspiracies.

You better be careful Beck he works for the Weekly Standard and he’s one of the big architects in the NeoCon cobol.

FleshBomb said:
Ever notice that really no one disputes Beck with any facts? Just name calling and ridicule. He’s on to something and it scares people. They will let you know who they fear by their actions.

I’ve read comment after comment from the left wing trolls on this site regarding Beck. Never has one disputed anything with fact. Know why? They can’t. First of all they are too stupid to do the homework it would take and if they did do the homework – they’d find he’s right.

Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. But you really can’t argue with a crazy person, because you need to PROVE an idea not just state it and expect people to disprove it. Beck has stated that the Bushes, both presidents, are in league with Muslim Brotherhood and gave NO EVIDENCE.

Interesting article….no comment on the substance of what Glen was presenting, just a comment on the style of the show (as in timing of an advert). why doesn’t that surprise me?

BFD said:
I will admit I am having trouble proving Australia is not going to be Chinese province soon.

HAHAHHA! Too Funny!!!!

BFD said:
I will admit I am having trouble proving Australia is not going to be Chinese province soon.

That’s not something being pushed by anyone. If it is I would like to see what facts they have to support it.

Your statement is a prime example of deflection. That’s what morons who have no clue about what they are talking about do. You’re like a living breathing stereotype of the idiot leftist troll.

BFD said:
Not to them they haven’t, just like you crazy teabloggers and you Beck conspiracies.

The difference is that people have given facts that debunk it regardless if truthers believe it. You and your ilk just stick out your tongues and go “not true”.

kvon said:
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. But you really can’t argue with a crazy person, because you need to PROVE an idea not just state it and expect people to disprove it. Beck has stated that the Bushes, both presidents, are in league with Muslim Brotherhood and gave NO EVIDENCE.

Please give evidence of where Beck said this and gave NO EVIDENCE.

kvon said:
Yeah, I’ve noticed that too. But you really can’t argue with a crazy person, because you need to PROVE an idea not just state it and expect people to disprove it. Beck has stated that the Bushes, both presidents, are in league with Muslim Brotherhood and gave NO EVIDENCE.

It doesn’t matter. Because their Dear Leader Chicken Little Beck says it; It is the truth.

Just Clowns honking their horns and monkeys screeching.

It also resulted in one of the most awkwardly hilarious moments ever as he bad mouthed one of his Conservative critics, The Weekly Standards’ Bill Kristol, before cutting to a commercial…for The Weekly Standard…starring Bill Kristol.

That happened yesterday too. It’s pretty funny that Kristol is paying Beck’s salary.

TfT said:
Interesting article….no comment on the substance of what Glen was presenting, just a comment on the style of the show (as in timing of an advert). why doesn’t that surprise me?

What else is new? I keep asking for someone to show where his facts are wrong. Still no takers.

kvon said:
Beck has stated that the Bushes, both presidents, are in league with Muslim Brotherhood and gave NO EVIDENCE.

Yes, I’d like to see your evidence for that too. I’m calling bullshit. EVIDENCE, please.

grafxmail7 said:
It doesn’t matter. Because their Dear Leader Chicken Little Beck says it; It is the truth.

Just Clowns honking their horns and monkeys screeching.

Another leftist half wit. “we don’t debate any of the specifics because they’re dumb”! You people are truly ignorant. WHY do you disagree with Beck? What did he say and show on his program that you would like to debate? You can’t do it because you’re not intelligent enough to even care. You live in your leftist bubble and that’s all you know. Typical.

FleshBomb said:
WHY do you disagree with Beck? What did he say and show on his program that you would like to debate?

Nothing. He just likes to moon people and congratulate himself for his dominance. Feel free to engage him, but know that you’re completely wasting your time. You’re not going to get anything you haven’t already gotten from him.

grafxmail7 said:
HAHAHHA! Too Funny!!!!

How old are you? And that IS a serious question.

Glenn Beck doubles down on his sheer ignorance about the world:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2011/02/03/jk.dunne.kagan.cnn

Has Beck brought in one expert yet who actually does know what he’s talking about? No, he doesn’t need to and he knows the extent to which he has his audience believing him, the teacher, the authority figure.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/02/is-beck-really-on-thin-ice-at-fox.html

BFD said:
So a 7 year old CIA report is proof that the Caliphate is happening now in Egypt and is supported by the communists and far left?

Quite a stretch, Henny Glenny.

No, dumbass. It’s “proof” that there are those who intend to reestablish the Caliphate and that a group of them are in Egypt working toward that end. Nobody knows which way Egypt is going to drop, and that is one of the possibilities in play.

BFD, you’re not that stupid. Drop the knee jerk crap and let those wheels in your head turn for a few minutes.

I understand Beck’s reaction after his comments over Egypt were described as “hysteria” by Kristol in the Weekly Standard. If Beck was smart he wouldn’t take shots at those who criticize him on the right especially those with whom he works at Fox News. He has enough opponents on the Left who criticize him. He doesn’t want to make enemies in the wrong places. The Rush Limbaugh rule to which Glenn Beck should subscribe is to have half of everybody hate you at any one time. Limbaugh has mildly criticized Brooks and other conservatives in the past, but he has largely been a good soldier to elected Republicans and the conservative movement. He saves 99% of his attacks for liberals and democrats. Beck would be wise to take after his mentor and put a lid on it. The last thing he needs is for many conservatives to abandon him.

The best part is that when in a year or two the Muslims and communists have not taken over the world with the help of the progressives Henny Glenny can just take the credit because HE sounded the alarm.

He saved the world for freedom!!!

It’s a foolproof plan for idiots.

Judge Mental said:
A CIA report? You don’t say. My, those guys are a bunch of wacky conspiracy theorists, aren’t they?

they created a lot of mess in the first place.

GlennBeckReview said:
Glenn Beck doubles down on his sheer ignorance about the world:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2011/02/03/jk.dunne.kagan.cnn

Has Beck brought in one expert yet who actually does know what he’s talking about? No, he doesn’t need to and he knows the extent to which he has his audience believing him, the teacher, the authority figure.

How did Kagan disprove or give any facts disputing Beck? He didn’t. He just started preaching “panic mongering” and I guess that is enough for some of the half wits out there.

This Kagan, genius also admitted that the Muslim Brotherhood had a good chance of getting a large part of the new Egyptian government. Wow, Beck is sooooooo wrong! LOL!

boy–I guess I’m missing the hilarity. see, libs, when conservatives disagree, it doesn’t mean that they are worstest enemies EVERRRR and they like totally hate each other and will like neverrrr be seen on the like same CHANNEL, you know?

Kristol may think Beck is a loon, but Beck’s show is still a great place for the Weekly Standard to advertise. I don’t see that changing. so stay tuned for lots more fun, as that WS spot will play on Beck again!

as for the conspiracy stuff, I have to admit I’ve missed the show the last couple days. but anybody who thinks there ISN’T an Islamic–desire, let’s call it–to rebuild the caliphate and have us all live as dhimmis, is fooling himself.

and anyone who really wants to know just has to use The Google. you can read what the MB believes in, what their offshoots Hamas and Hezbollah believe in…you don’t have to take Beck’s word. in fact, he always tells his viewers to do their own homework.

GlennBeckReview said:
Glenn Beck doubles down on his sheer ignorance about the world:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2011/02/03/jk.dunne.kagan.cnn

Has Beck brought in one expert yet who actually does know what he’s talking about? No, he doesn’t need to and he knows the extent to which he has his audience believing him, the teacher, the authority figure.

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How did Kagan disprove or give any facts disputing Beck? He didn’t. He just started preaching “panic mongering” and I guess that is enough for some of the half wits out there.

This Kagan, genius also admitted that the Muslim Brotherhood had a good chance of getting a large part of the new Egyptian government. Wow, Beck is sooooooo wrong! LOL!

And another serious question for those that are knowledgeable on this subject:

Assuming what Glenn is pointing out is in fact true (and I have no reason to doubt it so far), then what would be the media’s reason for NOT entertaining a discussion about it? What is the “fear” or consequence of having such a discussion?

The Democratic Leadership Council has been disbanded.

It’s official that the Democrats are now the party of Total Intolerance – you vill think, act, EAT, and do vatever the Party commands.

They’ve become the National Socialists of 1930′s Germany (NAZI) – No Freedom for YOU!

Ruth Gretzinger said:
as for the conspiracy stuff, I have to admit I’ve missed the show the last couple days. but anybody who thinks there ISN’T an Islamic–desire, let’s call it–to rebuild the caliphate and have us all live as dhimmis, is fooling himself.

Anyone doing that hasn’t read up on the writings of Osama bin Ladin, whose mentor/right hand man Ayman al-Zawahiri came out of…yep, the Muslin Brotherhood.

tgk said:
And another serious question for those that are knowledgeable on this subject:

Assuming what Glenn is pointing out is in fact true (and I have no reason to doubt it so far), then what would be the media’s reason for NOT entertaining a discussion about it? What is the “fear” or consequence of having such a discussion?

Very good question. One is complete laziness. For the other reason look no further than what they are attempting to do to Beck. It’s not PC to point out the actions and words of Islamofasict and leftist.

Pablo said:
What else is new? I keep asking for someone to show where his facts are wrong. Still no takers.

He is an artist in how he weaves his facts that make the gullible people at home in front of their TV and fireplace sh!t their pants.

That is why he so good, he is a professional. The scam is how he puts together the pieces to make it seem like it actually effects you personally. The people that watch are actually scared not to watch because they might not see the next threat that is around the corner.

WillP said:
I understand Beck’s reaction after his comments over Egypt were described as “hysteria” by Kristol in the Weekly Standard. If Beck was smart he wouldn’t take shots at those who criticize him on the right especially those with whom he works at Fox News. He has enough opponents on the Left who criticize him. He doesn’t want to make enemies in the wrong places. The Rush Limbaugh rule to which Glenn Beck should subscribe is to have half of everybody hate you at any one time. Limbaugh has mildly criticized Brooks and other conservatives in the past, but he has largely been a good soldier to elected Republicans and the conservative movement. He saves 99% of his attacks for liberals and democrats. Beck would be wise to take after his mentor and put a lid on it. The last thing he needs is for many conservatives to abandon him.

The headline to this article is a bit misleading. I didn’t see Beck “trash” anyone today, but I admit I missed a few minutes here and there. I saw him present their accusation and him substantiate his original statements. I would think by now everyone would realize Glenn isn’t too concerned about being “in” with either side.

tgk said:
Assuming what Glenn is pointing out is in fact true (and I have no reason to doubt it so far), then what would be the media’s reason for NOT entertaining a discussion about it? What is the “fear” or consequence of having such a discussion?

That’s an excellent question. And if they’re going to spend as much time as they do attacking Beck, why won’t they attack him on the facts? OK, that one’s easy. They can’t. That doesn’t answer yours though. Maybe they’re just lazy.

Nacho said:
He is an artist in how he weaves his facts that make the gullible people at home in front of their TV and fireplace sh!t their pants.

That is why he so good, he is a professional. The scam is how he puts together the pieces to make it seem like it actually effects you personally. The people that watch are actually scared not to watch because they might not see the next threat that is around the corner.

So you can’t impeach his facts either, you just have the conspiracy theory? I can’t tell you how funny that is.

YES! Not only is Sandmonkey on Fox, but he’s in a Red Sox hoodie! W00t!

Nacho said:
He is an artist in how he weaves his facts that make the gullible people at home in front of their TV and fireplace sh!t their pants.

That is why he so good, he is a professional. The scam is how he puts together the pieces to make it seem like it actually effects you personally. The people that watch are actually scared not to watch because they might not see the next threat that is around the corner.

See what Nacho just did there? “he’s an artist in how he weaves his facts”. LOL!! Weaves his facts. These morons would argue that the earth is round. Hey Nacho, what facts did he “weave”? I’d like a real smart cheese like you to “un-weave” them for us morans!

LOL too funny. <3 FOX News.

Pablo said:
So you can’t impeach his facts either

What facts?

That both Bush administrations and Code Pink are in cahoots with the Islamic Brotherhood and an international Caliphate conspiracy?

Those facts? lolol

When Rush calls Beck a clown, you know his time is up.

Michelle Bachmann is on FBN commenting on Obama’s scheme to use OUR TAX DOLLARS to bail out all the reckless spending the States have done.

So Failed States like Ca. NY, NJ & Ill. will take YOUR TAX DOLLARS to pay for Golden Retirement packages for their Public Union enforcers.

Hey, you might even have to get a second job just to cover all the benefits illegals get from those SANCTUARY STATES, as well.

BFD said:
What facts?

That both Bush administrations and Code Pink are in cahoots with the Islamic Brotherhood and an international Caliphate conspiracy?

Those facts? lolol

You’re denying that Code Pink and the Muslim Brotherhood are both Anti-American and Anti-Capitalist? I agree Code Pink doesn’t want a caliphate. They are just too stupid to realize that if that ever happened those sows would be the first to get Danny Pearled.

Yoda002 said:
When Rush calls Beck a clown, you know his time is up.

This happened when? Oh, that’s right. It didn’t.

BFD said:
What facts?

That both Bush administrations and Code Pink are in cahoots with the Islamic Brotherhood and an international Caliphate conspiracy?

Those facts? lolol

And don’t forget the communists!!!! They’re in on this too!!!!

You guys are killing me today.

Where did he say that the Bush Administrations are in bed with the MB? That’s stupid. Both of them were in bed with Mubarak, which is the opposite of being in bed with the MB. As for Code Pink, he’s right. They’re also in bed with the Taliban, and they adored the freedom fighters of Fallujah.

You could look it up.

BFD said:
And don’t forget the communists!!!! They’re in on this too!!!!

And the progressives!!!!! lololol

HA!

FleshBomb said:
This happened when? Oh, that’s right. It didn’t.

They so like to pretend, don’t they?

Pablo said:
Yes, I’d like to see your evidence for that too. I’m calling bullshit. EVIDENCE, please.

FleshBomb said:
Please give evidence of where Beck said this and gave NO EVIDENCE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYYLr-7lqMQ&feature=related

Here you go. Show me where he explains anything EXCEPT saying “this happened” and “this happened” so they must be connected.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc – look that up. Even in Latin they had assholes like this…

It’s funny when animals bite the hand that feeds them =D

BFD said:
What facts?

That both Bush administrations and Code Pink are in cahoots with the Islamic Brotherhood and an international Caliphate conspiracy?

Those facts? lolol

As a matter of Big Freakin Dummy, Beck specifically pointed out on today’s programs that the Islamist and socialist have different endgames.

Thanks for proving what we have been saying in this entire thread. You need to stick to the name calling of Beck because when you try to argue his point you completely misrepresent his point. Like I said, you’re too stupid for this kind of work.

FleshBomb said:
This happened when? Oh, that’s right. It didn’t.

He said that clown on Fox so I assume he is talking about Beck. He is after all the biggest clown on Fox.

Pablo said:
Where did he say that the Bush Administrations are in bed with the MB?

“There’s one place that [Bush I and Bush II military officials] told our bombers not to bomb. Does anybody know what it was?
Two wars in Iraq. We said no bombing there. Ancient Babylon. Ancient Babylon. Why? Because the Bible tells us that that is the seat — right here — of power of a global, evil empire.
Well, that’s also where the 12th imam from Iran is supposedly going to show up. Everybody on this side wants ancient Babylon for their caliphate.”

I dunno, maybe you can tell me what this means. Why exactly is Henny Glenny saying both Bush’s didn’t bomb Babylon?

kvon said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYYLr-7lqMQ&feature=related

Here you go. Show me where he explains anything EXCEPT saying “this happened” and “this happened” so they must be connected.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc – look that up. Even in Latin they had assholes like this…

Ooohhhh, good one.

BFD said:
And don’t forget the communists!!!! They’re in on this too!!!!

You guys are killing me today.

No. You’re right about that Big Fuckin Dummy. The Communist are not Anti-American and Anti-Capitalist. And there has never been a self identified communist working for this White House either. Oh wait….

FleshBomb said:
As a matter of Big Freakin Dummy, Beck specifically pointed out on today’s programs that the Islamist and socialist have different endgames.

Thanks for proving what we have been saying in this entire thread. You need to stick to the name calling of Beck because when you try to argue his point you completely misrepresent his point. Like I said, you’re too stupid for this kind of work.

Um…wait, you consider this comment a “win” because you’re pointing out…um, what?

tgk said:
And another serious question for those that are knowledgeable on this subject:

Assuming what Glenn is pointing out is in fact true (and I have no reason to doubt it so far), then what would be the media’s reason for NOT entertaining a discussion about it? What is the “fear” or consequence of having such a discussion?

Other than what has already been mentioned as lazy media, I would assume the media isn’t giving credibility to it at all because of they don’t want to portray Obama as having his “Carter moment” or a worse fate.

kvon said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYYLr-7lqMQ&feature=related

Here you go. Show me where he explains anything EXCEPT saying “this happened” and “this happened” so they must be connected.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc – look that up. Even in Latin they had assholes like this…

Ummmm, yeah. “this happened” and “this happened” is not Post hoc ergo propter hoc, genius.

Pablo said:
Where did he say that the Bush Administrations are in bed with the MB? That’s stupid. Both of them were in bed with Mubarak, which is the opposite of being in bed with the MB. As for Code Pink, he’s right. They’re also in bed with the Taliban, and they adored the freedom fighters of Fallujah.

You could look it up.

Who told you that? the internets? After all you would be one of those that would want to stay with the crown and not fight with the revolutionist.

Pablo said:
So you can’t impeach his facts either, you just have the conspiracy theory? I can’t tell you how funny that is.

His hustle is pretty funny. Pointing and laughing at the bamboozled is even more amusing.

BFD said:
I dunno, maybe you can tell me what this means. Why exactly is Henny Glenny saying both Bush’s didn’t bomb Babylon?

Oh, because it would inflame things that didn’t need inflaming, maybe? Does that put the Bush Administration in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood?

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Ooohhhh, good one.

You watched that 21 minute clip in 6 minutes? Good one.

Yoda002 said:
He said that clown on Fox so I assume he is talking about Beck. He is after all the biggest clown on Fox.

He means O’reilly. Also calls him, “Ted Baxter”. Lol. But don’t let that stop you from assuming anything, genius.

Beck said something today and Mediaite reported it. Yawn. Seriously, isn’t it embarrassing for you liberal journOlists to not have anything else to talk about besides Beck, Palin, FOX and Limbaugh?

FleshBomb said:
Ummmm, yeah. “this happened” and “this happened” is not Post hoc ergo propter hoc, genius.

Yeah, it’s “this happened” so it caused this to happen. Having issues that your little TV Jesus didn’t provide the evidence you thought he did or what? Just changing the subject because you’re an imbecile?

Pablo said:
Oh, because it would inflame things that didn’t need inflaming, maybe? Does that put the Bush Administration in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood?

You watched that 21 minute clip in 6 minutes? Good one.

Ignoring me? Oh poor baby…you’re wrong, again? That is sad.

kvon said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYYLr-7lqMQ&feature=related

Here you go. Show me where he explains anything EXCEPT saying “this happened” and “this happened” so they must be connected.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc – look that up. Even in Latin they had assholes like this…

Do you have a mark in that clip in which he says that? The transcript is here, and I don’t see it, though they are often not the complete show. I watched this and don’t recall hearing that. Where in the clip does he say it?

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Seriously, isn’t it embarrassing for you liberal journOlists to not have anything else to talk about besides Beck, Palin, FOX and Limbaugh?

These are the people YOU idiots have elevated as your leaders, not Mediaite.

HOLY CRAP! There are different groups of Republicans, Conservatives, and Libertarians?! And they all don’t necessarily agree with each other all the time?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Aaand… I’m over it.

Glenn’s crime against the conservative right is that he has collected the politically expedient myths of the right, as Freinkenstein collected corporal elements, sewn them together into a monster that he is attempting to animate through the strength of his breath. Professional conservatives understand that such a monstrosity on the march will only lead to revulsion and rejection of not only the doctor, but the hideous elements that have so long served them.

Pablo said:

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Ooohhhh, good one.

You watched that 21 minute clip in 6 minutes? Good one.

Yeah, I’m 6 minutes in and he hasn’t said anything of the sort. You are not smart.

What’s hysterical (and kinda sad) is, whether you believe Beck, Keith, Allah, Jesus, whomever, there is no denying the end game for Islam is to be the only religion/culture/way of life on the Earth. The rest are all infidels, be they Jews, Christians, Atheists, Hindus, it matters not.

You liberal folks arguing here are certainly entitled to your opinion but don’t let it blind you so badly you miss the obvious, these people (radical Islamists) have told you on numerous occasions you are infidels and you must convert or perish.

You are terribly naive if you think they will spare your life.

Pablo said:
Do you have a mark in that clip in which he says that? The transcript is here, and I don’t see it, though they are often not the complete show. I watched this and don’t recall hearing that. Where in the clip does he say it?

BECK: Iraq is really important, especially to the Shiites, especially to the Twelvers who are in charge of [Iraq] right now. Because what is in Iraq? There’s one place that [Bush I and Bush II military officials] told our bombers not to bomb. Does anybody know what it was?

Two wars in Iraq. We said no bombing there. Ancient Babylon. Ancient Babylon. Why? Because the Bible tells us that that is the seat — right here — of power of a global, evil empire.

Well, that’s also where the 12th imam from Iran is supposedly going to show up. Everybody on this side wants ancient Babylon for their caliphate.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Beck said something today and Mediaite reported it. Yawn. Seriously, isn’t it embarrassing for you liberal journOlists to not have anything else to talk about besides Beck, Palin, FOX and Limbaugh?

Matthews also covered Beck again. And they wonder why conservative sides gain more traction.

kvon said:
Yeah, it’s “this happened” so it caused this to happen. Having issues that your little TV Jesus didn’t provide the evidence you thought he did or what? Just changing the subject because you’re an imbecile?

No, I’m having issues with your “proof” that Beck is full of it. Linking to an entire Beck show on youtube and then saying “seeeee, it’s post hoc ergo hoc!!!!!!!!!

give me an example of “this happened” and therefore “this happened”. I won’t hold my breath.

kvon said:
BECK: Iraq is really important, especially to the Shiites, especially to the Twelvers who are in charge of [Iraq] right now. Because what is in Iraq? There’s one place that [Bush I and Bush II military officials] told our bombers not to bomb. Does anybody know what it was?

Two wars in Iraq. We said no bombing there. Ancient Babylon. Ancient Babylon. Why? Because the Bible tells us that that is the seat — right here — of power of a global, evil empire.

Well, that’s also where the 12th imam from Iran is supposedly going to show up. Everybody on this side wants ancient Babylon for their caliphate.

He couldn’t have possible meant that we didn’t want to inflame the entire muslim world by bombing babylon? No, had to mean that both Bushs are in on the caliphate. Your reasoning skills are second to none kvon. LOL!!

timzank said:
What’s hysterical (and kinda sad) is, whether you believe Beck, Keith, Allah, Jesus, whomever, there is no denying the end game for Islam is to be the only religion/culture/way of life on the Earth. The rest are all infidels, be they Jews, Christians, Atheists, Hindus, it matters not.

You liberal folks arguing here are certainly entitled to your opinion but don’t let it blind you so badly you miss the obvious, these people (radical Islamists) have told you on numerous occasions you are infidels and you must convert or perish.

You are terribly naive if you think they will spare your life.

They won’t spare our lives, but assholes like Beck are using this small group of Islamic Extremists with little to no power to strike fear in the uneducated of America. Using Sharia Law, or this Caliphate business, he is lying and using fear to divide this country.

Pablo said:
Oh, because it would inflame things that didn’t need inflaming, maybe? Does that put the Bush Administration in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood?

You watched that 21 minute clip in 6 minutes? Good one.

I was referring to the latin comment, notsosmart.

Fleshy, to do that they’d have to actually listen to him and they won’t do that. It’s easier to just mock him for his style then to actually have an intelligent debate on the substance of what he’s saying.

BFD said:
These are the people YOU idiots have elevated as your leaders, not Mediaite.

We criticize your POLITICIANS, Obama, Pelosi,Reid, etc. You know, the leaders (be it good or bad) of our country, because the COUNTRY is our concern.

You guys focus (harp whine piss moan) on TV and radio personalities, not on the people with actual power and positions.

That says volumes.

FleshBomb said:
He couldn’t have possible meant that we didn’t want to inflame the entire muslim world by bombing babylon? No, had to mean that both Bushs are in on the caliphate. Your reasoning skills are second to none kvon. LOL!!

So now you are saying he means something different even though the issue was always evidence?

kvon says:

They won’t spare our lives, but assholes like Beck are using this small group of Islamic Extremists with little to no power to strike fear in the uneducated of America. Using Sharia Law, or this Caliphate business, he is lying and using fear to divide this country.

Why don’t you take a look at Europe. They used to be where we are and now even the PM admits that multiculturism is an epic fail. You can’t simply turn a blind eye to things and hope they will go away because it won’t happen.

Beck gave Bill a chance to rebut, something olbermahn would NEVER do cause he’s a coward.

kvon said:
They won’t spare our lives, but assholes like Beck are using this small group of Islamic Extremists with little to no power to strike fear in the uneducated of America. Using Sharia Law, or this Caliphate business, he is lying and using fear to divide this country.

Just remember, FNC only talks to 1% of the country… which it happens to be dividing, despite only talking to such a small portion of it… or some such nonsense.

Don’t try to reason it. Just accept the spin.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…

kvon said:
They won’t spare our lives, but assholes like Beck are using this small group of Islamic Extremists with little to no power to strike fear in the uneducated of America. Using Sharia Law, or this Caliphate business, he is lying and using fear to divide this country.

How many Muslims are there in the world? How many will there be in 20 more years? How about 50 years? You ignore the math at your own peril, it’s quite simple, and it IS their goal. They don’t really NEED your help mind you, but I’m sure they appreciate it everyday.

timzank said:
You guys focus (harp whine piss moan) on TV and radio personalities,

Those ARE your leaders.

We all know what happens to a GOP politician who disagrees with Rush.

Don’t blame the media because you need stronger politicians. lol

Hey, nice misleading headline.

We all know what happens to a GOP politician who disagrees with Rush.
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Enlighten me, dummy.

Any body who thinks Beck is normal, then that person is crazier than Beck. If crazy was in the Olympics, beck will be a multiple Olympian Gold medalist. he is crazy to the nth Power. The FDA should put a warning label before you watch his show on fox saying” watching Glen Beck is dangerous for your health. If you feel dumber, a bit retarded, paranoid, xenophobic, anti-black, itching skin, Please visit a psychiatrist immiediately if symptoms persist “

timzank said:
How many Muslims are there in the world? How many will there be in 20 more years? How about 50 years? You ignore the math at your own peril, it’s quite simple, and it IS their goal. They don’t really NEED your help mind you, but I’m sure they appreciate it everyday.

http://theczech.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/muslim-infographic.jpg

minorityreport, you’re a conservative plant, right? You can’t seriously be as off the wall as you appear.

Olby Sucks said:
We all know what happens to a GOP politician who disagrees with Rush.
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Enlighten me, dummy.

The grovel on there bellies until they are forgiven.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
minorityreport, you’re a conservative plant, right? You can’t seriously be as off the wall as you appear.

You do the same on a daily basis.

Dummy, can you back that?

BFD said:
The grovel on there bellies until they are forgiven.

You forgot about bringing gifts of ribs, rack of lamb and oxycontin to the almighty Jabba the Rush.

Nacho said:
Glenn Beck makes Jospeh Goebbels look like a Mormon.

If you take out that second “m” you have what he makes you look like.

BFD said:
The grovel on there bellies until they are forgiven.

Don’t get me wrong man, I’m glad you guys are obsessed with radio and tv personalities. It’s working real well, I have no problem with it, I’m just perplexed (as are many) with it.

Glenn Beck Trashes Bill Kristol Seconds Before Cutting To…Bill Kristol

This is a story??? LOL.

Hey can I get a job with you guys??? I can lean the story to the left or right it doesn’t matter. I can guarantee it will be an interesting read though…..

Headline leaning to the right-

Beck trashes the Standard for not digging deep enough.

Today on the Glenn Beck program Glenn tells his audience that conservative reporters need to dig deeper for the facts and and report what they find even if the rest of the world thinks they are nuts that somehow there could be a possible globule Caliphate. Blah, blah blah…. Bill Kristal is one of those who need to… Blah blah blah blah….

Headline leaning to the left-

Beck is a meanie!

Beck is mean, and he is fat. and he calls people names, and he makes my head hurt. End of story…..

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
You forgot about bringing gifts of ribs, rack of lamb and oxycontin to the almighty Jabba the Rush.

Did Rush get his oxy from the same dealer Bidens daughter used, or was that Patches Kennedy?

Thanks for the various answers to my question guys, but I was seriously hoping it was because of a REAL reason. Apparently not, just the typical crap – ideology and Political Correctness (to win future elections no doubt). Those two things will eventually be the downfall of this country. Maybe not in my lifetime but at some point.

timzank said:
Don’t get me wrong man, I’m glad you guys are obsessed with radio and tv personalities.

Maybe if they didn’t want to be hot topics of conversation they should have become plumbers or teachers instead of talk show personalities.

Just sayin.

timzank said:
Did Rush get his oxy from the same dealer Bidens daughter used, or was that Patches Kennedy?

LOL at you attacking us for going after radio personalities and then in your next breath going after politicians families.

I guess it’s ok because you’re playing defense, right?

tgk said:
Thanks for the various answers to my question guys, but I was seriously hoping it was because of a REAL reason. Apparently not, just the typical crap – ideology and Political Correctness (to win future elections no doubt). Those two things will eventually be the downfall of this country. Maybe not in my lifetime but at some point.

Let me just adjust my tinfoil hat…..Okay, could it be that they’re merely obeying their puppetmasters’ directions?

kvon said:
Iraq is really important, especially to the Shiites, especially to the Twelvers who are in charge of [Iraq] right now. Because what is in Iraq? There’s one place that [Bush I and Bush II military officials] told our bombers not to bomb. Does anybody know what it was?

And you get from that that Beck is saying The Bushes are in bed with the MB? What planet are you from?

BFD said:
Maybe if they didn’t want to be hot topics of conversation they should have become plumbers or teachers instead of talk show personalities. Just sayin.

I’m sure they’re flattered that everytime they say anything you pay attention. It actually says a great deal that an entire cottage industry (replete with fan clubs like yours) now exists to do nothing more than report on the news personalities instead of the actual news.

That’s quite an accomplishment.

timzank said:
Did Rush get his oxy from the same dealer Bidens daughter used, or was that Patches Kennedy?

I assumed that he got them from Oliver North’s illegal immigrant worker who used to work for the contras.

timzank said:
It actually says a great deal that an entire cottage industry (replete with fan clubs like yours) now exists to do nothing more than report on the news personalities instead of the actual news.

And yet here you are…doing the same thing.

Go figure..

Pablo said:
And you get from that that Beck is saying The Bushes are in bed with the MB? What planet are you from?

Even so, it doesn’t mean the Bushies were afraid of a Caliphate as Henny Glenny implies, it just means they were trying to win hearts and minds.

How’d that go btw?

Pablo said:
And you get from that that Beck is saying The Bushes are in bed with the MB? What planet are you from?

Those are literally his words, not mine.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I assumed that he got them from Oliver North’s illegal immigrant worker who used to work for the contras.

No,no, it wasn’t him…I think he was Barney Franks supplier though before he just started growing his own weed.

kvon said:
Those are literally his words, not mine.

You are either a pathological liar or a reeling buffoon, which is it?

BFD said:
Even so, it doesn’t mean the Bushies were afraid of a Caliphate as Henny Glenny implies, it just means they were trying to win hearts and minds. How’d that go btw?

Went about as well as it’s going for Bush III (Obama)…

FleshBomb said:
He couldn’t have possible meant that we didn’t want to inflame the entire muslim world by bombing babylon? No, had to mean that both Bushs are in on the caliphate. Your reasoning skills are second to none kvon. LOL!!

That theory isnt even Kvon’s- he is parroting MSNBC.

So not only is he stupid, he is unoriginally stupid.

Pablo said:
They so like to pretend, don’t they?

Yes, indeedy, they do.

BarneyFranken said:
That theory isnt even Kvon’s- he is parroting MSNBC.

So not only is he stupid, he is unoriginally stupid.

Theory? These are Beck’s words dude.

BFD said:
Even so, it doesn’t mean the Bushies were afraid of a Caliphate as Henny Glenny implies, it just means they were trying to win hearts and minds.

Yes, nor does the fact that I had sausage and eggs for breakfast mean that the Bushes were afraid of a Caliphate.

he is parroting MSNBC.
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Shocker!

Even so, it doesn’t mean the Bushies were afraid of a Caliphate as Henny Glenny implies

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Here, we have the goal post on wheels…

kvon said:
Those are literally his words, not mine.

Yes they are. I’d like to know how you get from this:

Iraq is really important, especially to the Shiites, especially to the Twelvers who are in charge of [Iraq] right now. Because what is in Iraq? There’s one place that [Bush I and Bush II military officials] told our bombers not to bomb. Does anybody know what it was?

to this:

kvon said:
Beck has stated that the Bushes, both presidents, are in league with Muslim Brotherhood and gave NO EVIDENCE.

That’s the EVIDENCE you’re providing to support your claim. WTF is that?

Did Rush get his oxy from the same dealer Bidens daughter used, or was that Patches Kennedy?
——

I heard he was tight with gore’s son. Imagine the irony….

Bush’s ROE were very kind to various Muslim holy places, often to the detriment of our troops and our mission. But how does that leave Beck putting him in bed with the MB? Explain, please.

timzank said:
Did Rush get his oxy from the same dealer Bidens daughter used, or was that Patches Kennedy?

Whatever Patches (my blessedly former Congresscritter) was doing makes you deeply stupid and incompetent. Or maybe that’s just him.

timzank said:
You are either a pathological liar or a reeling buffoon, which is it?

Yes. The options are stupid or lying. I do wonder which., especially when we’re talking to a guy who recently called Zudhi Jasser a Muslim Uncle Tom. Inquiring minds want to know.

This is SOP for the rodeo clown. Make up some wild ass shit that only a complete brain dead buffoon would believe, wait for someone sane to tell him what an idiot he is, attack and make up even more wild ass shit.

Glenn just wants to be loved.

BarneyFranken said:
That theory isnt even Kvon’s- he is parroting MSNBC.

So not only is he stupid, he is unoriginally stupid.

Please tell me you’re kidding me. Or give me a link that’s going to make me wish I hadn’t looked at it.

Garth said:
Make up some wild ass shit

What wild ass shit is that, brainstem?

Pablo said:
What wild ass shit is that, brainstem?

The wild ass shit that you swallow daily brainstem. Do I really need to spell it out for you dip shits; you can’t possibly be that stupid…then again, you are Pablo.

Garth said:
Do I really need to spell it out for you dip shits; you can’t possibly be that stupid

Yes, brainstem. Spell it out and back it up or STFU.

Pablo said:
Yes, brainstem. Spell it out and back it up or STFU.

Have you had your head up your moronic ass all day? You’ve heard of the caliphate BS that Beck is pushing or are you playing dumb shit? No pun intended brainstem.

So to recap, of all the chuckle heads who posted to this thread to make fun of “Glenn’s Theory”…

2:18 at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYYLr-7lqMQ

…only two had the courage to challenge any part of it. Actually, the quotation regarding Babylon and the Bushes doesn’t have any relation to “Glenn’s Theory,” since the “Bush’s” don’t factor into it. Again, 2:18. And since both chose the same quotation, I presume this to be merely a talking point lifted from a site critical of “Glenn’s Theory.”

So… when asked to counter or dispel Glenn’s ‘conspiracy’ talk, we’re offered noting but non-sequitur talking points and the appeal to ridicule logical fallacy. Can no one who posts here legitimately counter “Glenn’s Theory?”

It’s sort of an unfair question to the posters here for not even Kristol bothered to actually do the work and debunk “Glenn’s Theory” with facts. The same with Maddow. The same with Mathews. etc. etc. They can’t, and don’t, for the facts, broken down to their simplest expression, are true. Both Islamists and hardcore elements on the left are not compatible with our current system and seek to overthrow it’s influence. It might be argued that the facts are true but aren’t particularly important, for the influence of either the hardcore left or radical Islamists are minimal, but even this hasn’t been attempted. Now what remains is to determined why the facts aren’t receiving play in other media.

A true cynic might see this whole row purely as a play over domestic politics to see, going into the presidential nomination season, which political voice has greater ascendancy on the right; a libertarian television host with 2+ million viewers and influence in the tea-party or the neo-con editorial staff of a magazine with a readership of 65,000 wedded to the legacy of recent republican presidents.

Seriously, this is a NEWS STORY??? Wow… I noticed this but it’s nothing more than a coincidentally-timed TV ad. Geez, Mediaite… is this the best you got for a blog post? I’m sure I’m not the only one who’s witnessed this happening before. Wow… just wow. I’m stunned. I’d chalk it up to a slow news day, but this is becoming all-too-common around here lately.

Hey, Jon… how about reporting on the commercial for The Ed Show being shown during FNC’s primetime lineup? That looks funny… surely it’s newsworthy to you, right? Right???

We went through this crap during the supposedly successful “boycott” by racist hate organization ColorOfChange: Glenn Beck doesn’t control his show’s advertisers. Advertisers buy ad shares and the network places the ads as they see fit.

Glenn is 100% correct….

Color of Change is definately a racist gang of thugs.

Say what you wan,t but Kristol is a two timing bitch. He is the one who pushed for Sarah Palin to be John McCain’s running mate, pumping her up to the point of she could do no wrong. Once she made a mistake Kristol was off her bandwagon and started bad mouthing her. He has the shiteatingest grin I have ever seen when FOX News uses him on Sundays with Wallace or weekdays on BB’s Special Report. I have no idea where Beck is going with his latest rant since I am out with the cattle when his show is on but, if Kristol and Chrissy ‘Sissified Girlieboy With Tingles & Thrills” Matthews are on his case then Beck must be doing something right. Chrissy and Krissy should ride off into the sunset together. Both are F*ing wimpy idiots!

wan’t s/b want…Mediate needs an EDIT button.

That Glenn Beck is crazy!

Muslim Brotherhood text reveals scope of radical creed

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=207415

This is ridiculous. Why are we having this discussion. Muslims are taking over the world! It’s ridiculous and very worrisome that the words of a fool are taken so seriously, even by a relatively small number of people – a few million, maybe – who’s given a megaphone by Rupert Goebbels. The Muslim world is falling apart, hopefully to be reconstituted as something better. Over the years, our government has done everything possible to keep the Muslim states in a state of disarray. Let’s face it all we have wanted is their oil, and that they should make nice-nice to the Israeli’s who haven’t been especially helpful. Hopefully, things are changing for the better. Just imagine if the Republicans were in power. After our futile and totally immoral war on Iraq, we would have already bombed Iran and we’d be itching to intervene with our soldiers in Egypt. And here we already have a over a hundred comments, many of them justifying and rationalizing Beck’s idiocy. As for Kristol, he is probably a more reprehensible figure than even Beck. Kristol is a clever cynical intellectual who, I believe, knows better, but is a professional rightwinger and is stuck in his schtick.

Pablo said:
There’s one place that [Bush I and Bush II military officials] told our bombers not to bomb. Does anybody know what it was?

Full quote:

BECK: Iraq is really important, especially to the Shiites, especially
to the Twelvers who are in charge of [Iraq] right now. Because what is
in Iraq? There’s one place that [Bush I and Bush II military
officials] told our bombers not to bomb. Does anybody know what it
was?

Two wars in Iraq. We said no bombing there. Ancient Babylon. Ancient
Babylon. Why? Because the Bible tells us that that is the seat — right
here — of power of a global, evil empire.

Well, that’s also where the 12th imam from Iran is supposedly going to
show up. Everybody on this side wants ancient Babylon for their
caliphate.

So why, in Beck’s view, did the Bushes not bomb Babylon?
Beck: “Why? Because the Bible tells us that that is the seat — right
here — of power of a global, evil empire.”

This explicitly means that the Bushes did it because: “Everybody on this side wants ancient Babylon for their
caliphate.”

Explain where the evidence is sir.

ganymede said:
This is ridiculous. Why are we having this discussion. Muslims are taking over the world! It’s ridiculous and very worrisome that the words of a fool are taken so seriously, even by a relatively small number of people – a few million, maybe – who’s given a megaphone by Rupert Goebbels. The Muslim world is falling apart, hopefully to be reconstituted as something better. Over the years, our government has done everything possible to keep the Muslim states in a state of disarray. Let’s face it all we have wanted is their oil, and that they should make nice-nice to the Israeli’s who haven’t been especially helpful. Hopefully, things are changing for the better. Just imagine if the Republicans were in power. After our futile and totally immoral war on Iraq, we would have already bombed Iran and we’d be itching to intervene with our soldiers in Egypt. And here we already have a over a hundred comments, many of them justifying and rationalizing Beck’s idiocy. As for Kristol, he is probably a more reprehensible figure than even Beck. Kristol is a clever cynical intellectual who, I believe, knows better, but is a professional rightwinger and is stuck in his schtick.

Blind hope, evidently, is preferable to sober analysis as a rubric for our national debate.

If wishes were fishes…

kvon said:
This explicitly means that the Bushes did it because: “Everybody on this side wants ancient Babylon for their
caliphate.”

Explain where the evidence is sir.

No, he’s explicitly explaining why nobody wanted to see deeply symbolic ruins blown up. It has meaning to everyone who has cultural roots stemming from these ancient lands. There’s absolutely no casual relationship stated or implied to the actions of either George Bush beyond the symbolic nature of the ruins. There’s no intoned relationship between Bushes and the Muslim Brotherhood to be had within these words. And you can find none without purposely attributing false interpretation to what was said.

Paleoconservatarian said:
No, he’s explicitly explaining why nobody wanted to see deeply symbolic ruins blown up. It has meaning to everyone who has cultural roots stemming from these ancient lands. There’s absolutely no casual relationship stated or implied to the actions of either George Bush beyond the symbolic nature of the ruins. There’s no intoned relationship between Bushes and the Muslim Brotherhood to be had within these words. And you can find none without purposely attributing false interpretation to what was said.

Do you people have some issue with the concept of language or what? Or are you just fuck-tarded? Beck would have said that if he believed that. You’re little demagogue is an imbecile who has gone too far with his conspiracy theories.

Glenn is just gnawing on the hand that feeds him. What an idiot!

The O’Beckerhead phenomenon in recent weeks is surprising. He seems to be getting loonier and loonier whilst he is also stumbling a bit. The Power Structure Right is distancing itself from him even as it has begun openly criticizing him. We have witnessed something similar happening with Palin. Moderates, Liberals and Progressives effectively prevented her from gaining more approval, but were powerless, of course, from completely thwarting her. Almost on cue, the Power Structure Right stepped in and seems to have dealt her some powerful blows. She keeps her very small base of utter loons, but seems blocked in to the extent that she appears to have difficulty establishing that she could win a single state. She has been effectively discredited, but, again largely from the Right. Is this happening to O’Beckerhead? His fan-base is a small, loyal core, but he doesn’t seem to be expanding. The Palin phenomenon is easy to understand. Mainstream Republicans understood as early as the days after she was nominated that she was a very dangerous candidate, effectively discrediting McCain in about 72 hours. But, her conservative bona fides cannot be so easily attacked. O’Beckerhead is more difficult. He is much more an Elmer Gantry/Father Coughlin like character developing a cult of personality more than a coherent conservative playbook. To some extent that makes him immune from attack until the inevitable personal stumble all such characters face. But Gantry and Coughlin merely suffered from the sin of pride in some very profound ways. They were at all times orthodox. O’Beckerhead is self-absorbed and suffers mightily from the sin of pride, but he also espouse an unorthodox, heretical theology that makes him more vulnerable. I suspect when the Right goes in for the O’Beckerhead kill it is that heretical core of teaching which will prove to be his soft under-belly.

Bill Kristol is just another Rino Check this out. Check out his meeting with Obama below. I wonder if this is like a CBO( Doug Elmendorf) meeting moment below. Afterwards Elmendorf started making up better numbers. I remembered reading it somewhere before. googled and found guess who’s reported on it below. Please pass around . More liberals are quoting Kristol now than conservatives.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/13/obamas-dinner-with-conser_n_157701.html
Barack Obama took the next big step in his Republican charm offensive on Tuesday night, when he dined with several of the nation’s most prominent conservative pundits.
The president-elect arrived at the Chevy Chase, Md., home of syndicated columnist George Will shortly after 6:30 p.m., according to a press pool report. Greeting him at the residence were other luminaries of the conservative commentariat, including the Weekly Standard’s William Kristol, New York Times columnist David Brooks, and Charles Krauthammer of the Washington Post

Please Check out song called teapartiers I can’t hear you at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJfboOindCo

Here’s a verse

Doctors are retiring earlier but we’re getting 17000 new IRS
This is how Obama creates health care jobs I guess
For 234 years this country’s been God’s blessing.
Now he’s following Cloward and Piven’s to bankrupt the country I’m guessing
If Obamacare gives Grandma and Grandpa a scare
Think how when their rationed and die earlier we’ll save on healthcare

Hey guys if you fought at Iwo or the Chosen
when they stop giving your wife her meds and her last breath comes over her face
you’ll find comfort knowing Nancy’d gladly take her place.

This explicitly means that the Bushes did it because: “Everybody on this side wants ancient Babylon for their
caliphate.”

The twelvers run Iran, not Iraq, genius. Ahmedinijad is a twelver. Khameni has declared himself the messenger of the twelfth Imam. When he says “this side” while referring to twelvers, he’s referring to Iran. Why is the word [Iraq] in brackets in your quote? Because you’re lying. Here’s what he actually said:

“Iraq is really important, especially to the Shiites, especially to the Twelvers who are in charge of this country right now. Because what is in Iraq? There’s one place that we told our bombers not to bomb. Does anybody know what it was?”

And when he said “this country” he was pointing to Iran on the map.

That clip you linked to? It’s the wrong one. It’s the wrong show. What you’re misquoting, and what you said I could find in the clip you linked is actually in this show. At 12:10 in the clip, when he says “this side”, he’s POINTING AT IRAN on the map. He’s not talking about Iraq or America. He’s talking about Iran, home of the Twelvers.

Lastly, the Twelvers are not the Muslim Brotherhood. The Twelevers are Shiite. The Muslim Brotherhood is Sunni. So your evidence that Beck says the Bushes were in bed with the MB has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the MB. They’re not mentioned and they’re not being referred to.

God, you people are mendacious morons.

“Iraq is really important, especially to the Shiites, especially to the Twelvers who are in charge of this country right now. Because what is in Iraq? There’s one place that we told our bombers not to bomb. Does anybody know what it was?”

Addendum: This quote is at 11:34 in the clip, once again, with Beck pointing at Iran.

And that merited a story?

I’d suggest that everyone here read Andrew C. McCarthy’s new article at National Review online.

A small portion of this intelligent, well-considered article:

“That’s anything but clear, and calling for “democracy” in this environment is not clarifying. Secular, pro-Western Muslims and Copts would certainly favor something the West would recognize as democracy. Still, they are a minority and a disorganized one at that. The Islamists, led by the Muslim Brotherhood, are highly organized, but they are most certainly not the latter-day Madisons of Western media lore. The Ikhwan only talks a good democracy game. The Brothers will never walk the walk, because their agenda is sharia. Democratic processes are a serviceable route to power, but democratic principles would not guide their exercise of power.”

“Much is made, including by President Obama, of the fact that the Brotherhood is a minority faction, popular with perhaps a quarter of Egyptians. That, though, is a formidable plurality — the Bolsheviks probably had less popular support in 1917. To be effective, especially when things are in disarray, a faction doesn’t need to be a majority. It needs to be disciplined and better organized than its competition. Under one authoritarian regime after another for generations, most Egyptians have been busy just trying to get by. Game-planning a revolutionary reordering of society hasn’t been on their radar. But it has been the Brotherhood’s obsession since 1928. Moreover, the Brothers have been gradualists about their goals precisely because they believed it would be important, when their moment finally came, to be ready to hit the ground running.”

The Real Royal King said:
The O’Beckerhead phenomenon in recent weeks is surprising. He seems to be getting loonier and loonier whilst he is also stumbling a bit.

More people are agreeing with Beck everyday. I know you can’t read but I will post the following anyway.

Muslim Brotherhood text reveals scope of radical creed
By OREN KESSLER
02/09/2011 02:09

Translated by Palestinian Media Watch, book details group’s goal of global Islamic conquest.

One of the greatest beneficiaries of the unrest in Egypt has been the Muslim Brotherhood.

Banned but tolerated for decades by successive Egyptian regimes, the Islamist movement is now emerging as a central player in the country’s resurgent opposition.

On Tuesday, two Brotherhood representatives participated in an opposition delegation that met with Vice President Omar Suleiman for the first set of talks over implementing political reforms.

Pundits have portrayed the Brotherhood as uncompromising zealots or beneficent providers of social services that long-deprived Egyptians desperately need.

But a translation released Tuesday of a 1995 book by the movement’s fifth official leader sheds light on just how Egypt’s Brotherhood views itself and its mission. Jihad is the Way is the last of a five-volume work, The Laws of Da’wa by Mustafa Mashhur, who headed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from 1996-2002.

The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday saw excerpts of the text, compiled by Palestinian Media Watch founder Itamar Marcus and analyst Nan Jacques Zilberdik.

They detail the Brotherhood’s objectives of advancing the global conquest of Islam and reestablishing the Islamic Caliphate, the public and private duties of jihad and the struggle Muslims must wage against Israel.

The full text, translated by PMW, will be posted Wednesday on the organization’s website, Palwatch.org.

Feinstein: “We don’t understand this”crisis in Egypt
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The people who are cheerleading immediate democracy in Egypt don’t recall the lesson learned in Gaza, Senate Intelligence Committee chair Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) warned MSNBC this morning. Feinstein warned of “fundamentalist Islamic sects” taking control of Egypt in the present chaos and told Andrea Mitchell that “we don’t understand the ebb and flow” of politics in the Middle East, and that simply demanding elections in an environment as unstable as Egypt’s at the present could lead to some very undemocratic long-term outcomes

Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said Wednesday he hopes the Obama administration‘s behind-the-scenes handling of the crisis in Egypt is going more smoothly than it looks from the outside.
Mr. Rumsfeld told the “America’s Morning News” radio broadcast that a confusion of public messages from the White House over the handling of embattled Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak was “unfortunate” and has not helped ease the crisis in Cairo. …
“That is unfortunate, that they seem to be crossways with their assigned diplomat, Frank Wisner and with some differences in terms of people in Washington. I don’t know enough to know precisely what’s taking place, but that tends not to be helpful,” Mr. Rumsfeld said on radio broadcast.
“I’m hoping there is effective private diplomacy taking place … and the turmoil that we are seeing will ease,” he said.

gordonbloyershow said:
More people are agreeing with Beck everyday. I know you can’t read but I will post the following anyway.

Muslim Brotherhood text reveals scope of radical creed
By OREN KESSLER
02/09/2011 02:09

Translated by Palestinian Media Watch, book details group’s goal of global Islamic conquest.

One of the greatest beneficiaries of the unrest in Egypt has been the Muslim Brotherhood.

Banned but tolerated for decades by successive Egyptian regimes, the Islamist movement is now emerging as a central player in the country’s resurgent opposition.

On Tuesday, two Brotherhood representatives participated in an opposition delegation that met with Vice President Omar Suleiman for the first set of talks over implementing political reforms.

Pundits have portrayed the Brotherhood as uncompromising zealots or beneficent providers of social services that long-deprived Egyptians desperately need.

But a translation released Tuesday of a 1995 book by the movement’s fifth official leader sheds light on just how Egypt’s Brotherhood views itself and its mission. Jihad is the Way is the last of a five-volume work, The Laws of Da’wa by Mustafa Mashhur, who headed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt from 1996-2002.

The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday saw excerpts of the text, compiled by Palestinian Media Watch founder Itamar Marcus and analyst Nan Jacques Zilberdik.

They detail the Brotherhood’s objectives of advancing the global conquest of Islam and reestablishing the Islamic Caliphate, the public and private duties of jihad and the struggle Muslims must wage against Israel.

The full text, translated by PMW, will be posted Wednesday on the organization’s website, Palwatch.org.

Feinstein: “We don’t understand this”crisis in Egypt
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The people who are cheerleading immediate democracy in Egypt don’t recall the lesson learned in Gaza, Senate Intelligence Committee chair Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) warned MSNBC this morning. Feinstein warned of “fundamentalist Islamic sects” taking control of Egypt in the present chaos and told Andrea Mitchell that “we don’t understand the ebb and flow” of politics in the Middle East, and that simply demanding elections in an environment as unstable as Egypt’s at the present could lead to some very undemocratic long-term outcomes

Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said Wednesday he hopes the Obama administration‘s behind-the-scenes handling of the crisis in Egypt is going more smoothly than it looks from the outside.
Mr. Rumsfeld told the “America’s Morning News” radio broadcast that a confusion of public messages from the White House over the handling of embattled Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak was “unfortunate” and has not helped ease the crisis in Cairo. …
“That is unfortunate, that they seem to be crossways with their assigned diplomat, Frank Wisner and with some differences in terms of people in Washington. I don’t know enough to know precisely what’s taking place, but that tends not to be helpful,” Mr. Rumsfeld said on radio broadcast.
“I’m hoping there is effective private diplomacy taking place … and the turmoil that we are seeing will ease,” he said.

Yeah, you can get a lot of severely anti-Islam news from places like the Jerusalem Post (which is on the very fringe of the Right Wing in Israel). Nice try. You should try reading as well.

I wouldn’t say that Glenn Beck “trashed” Kristol, but he should have. Kristol is the typical northeastern elitist Republican who disparages anyone not of his ilk. OK, that’s his right, but he hasn’t a clue about what it’s like to be one of the “little people.”

kvon said:
Yeah, you can get a lot of severely anti-Islam news from places like the Jerusalem Post (which is on the very fringe of the Right Wing in Israel). Nice try. You should try reading as well.

No response to the complete demolition of that lie you repeated and repeated and repeated, kvon? Pathetic.

The problem is that Beck is suggesting (as always) that the worst is not merely possible, but likely or inevitable. Socialists are taking over America, Islamists are taking over Egypt, China is overtaking everyone. Same old fearmongering crap he always engages in. He completely ignores the myriad of obstacles to any of those things happening. This is the guy who thinks our country has been going the wrong direction since Andrew Jackson. I’m not sure why he even likes America, since by his watch it only lasted in it’s best form for about 50 years or so, and none of us has been living since it was right.

How about making some suggestions for how to make the outcome in Egypt more positive? What about calling some attention to the capitalists and Christians in Egypt, if that’s what he supports? How about conceding that there are other outcomes that don’t involve the world being in peril? But then telling people to live in fear is his schtick, so I won’t hold my breath.

Nobody disputes that some Muslims want a caliphate. Nobody disputes that some Socialists might work on some level with Muslim groups. His contention however, is that the two groups have orchestrated this whole thing, and there’s no evidence for it. And he implies they’re the majority, which there is no evidence of. Instead he picks out a few disparate examples and builds a conspiracy out of it He seems to completely ignore the Google executive who was so instrumental to this movement. Or the respected Egyptian businessman ( a capitalist of all things!) Fox ran a story on yesterday who has been part of the protests since day one.

WHY was a Google executive who was living in Dubai involved at all? His Facebook page seems to have been the catalyst for the protests. Something is just very odd about that.

jjay7381 said:
Glenn is just gnawing on the hand that feeds him. What an idiot!

His program is sponsored by all Republican Party ads! FreedomWorks (Dick Army/Teabaggers/Koch Industries), Americans for Prosperity (Koch Bros), Goldline, Depends and The Weekly Standard – LOL.

shortstopk said:
The problem is that Beck is suggesting (as always) that the worst is not merely possible, but likely or inevitable. Socialists are taking over America, Islamists are taking over Egypt, China is overtaking everyone. Same old fearmongering crap he always engages in. He completely ignores the myriad of obstacles to any of those things happening. This is the guy who thinks our country has been going the wrong direction since Andrew Jackson. I’m not sure why he even likes America, since by his watch it only lasted in it’s best form for about 50 years or so, and none of us has been living since it was right.

How about making some suggestions for how to make the outcome in Egypt more positive? What about calling some attention to the capitalists and Christians in Egypt, if that’s what he supports? How about conceding that there are other outcomes that don’t involve the world being in peril? But then telling people to live in fear is his schtick, so I won’t hold my breath.

Nobody disputes that some Muslims want a caliphate. Nobody disputes that some Socialists might work on some level with Muslim groups. His contention however, is that the two groups have orchestrated this whole thing, and there’s no evidence for it. And he implies they’re the majority, which there is no evidence of. Instead he picks out a few disparate examples and builds a conspiracy out of it He seems to completely ignore the Google executive who was so instrumental to this movement. Or the respected Egyptian businessman ( a capitalist of all things!) Fox ran a story on yesterday who has been part of the protests since day one.

Beck’s job is to confuse and frighten the easily misled, the uneducated and the religulous base that Democrats are Communists, Socialists, Fascists, Nazis, Marxists, God-less – ANYTHING but American. He is part of the indoctrination into Glennbeckistan ignorance that is repeated on AM Hate Talk Radio and the GOP propaganda – to distract and distort while his true employers, Murdoch, the Saudi Royal Family and Koch Bros., et. al. use our system to war profiteer (i.e., Iraq/Halliburton, Oil). His job on the hate and fear network is to get those unstable people that are blind faith “religulous” and keep them fearful through elections to lie, smear and keep them there. Each propagandist on Fox has a role. This is Beck’s.

X-3 said:
I wouldn’t say that Glenn Beck “trashed” Kristol, but he should have. Kristol is the typical northeastern elitist Republican who disparages anyone not of his ilk. OK, that’s his right, but he hasn’t a clue about what it’s like to be one of the “little people.”

LOL. Too funny. A Beck Conspiracy Theorist Supporter. Didn’t you guys rail on Rosie O’Donnell for asking questions about 9/11?? You have Beck with the most outrageous conspiracy theories DAILY.

He’s from Egypt, and lived in Dubai because that’s where his office with Google was.

Pablo said:
Addendum: This quote is at 11:34 in the clip, once again, with Beck pointing at Iran.

Joe Smith’s house?

If you’re getting your history from Beck – you’re not getting history – you’re getting hysteria from Glennbeckistan.

Joe Astroturf said:
Bill Kristol is just another Rino Check this out. Check out his meeting with Obama below. I wonder if this is like a CBO( Doug Elmendorf) meeting moment below. Afterwards Elmendorf started making up better numbers. I remembered reading it somewhere before. googled and found guess who’s reported on it below. Please pass around . More liberals are quoting Kristol now than conservatives.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/13/obamas-dinner-with-conser_n_157701.html
Barack Obama took the next big step in his Republican charm offensive on Tuesday night, when he dined with several of the nation’s most prominent conservative pundits.
The president-elect arrived at the Chevy Chase, Md., home of syndicated columnist George Will shortly after 6:30 p.m., according to a press pool report. Greeting him at the residence were other luminaries of the conservative commentariat, including the Weekly Standard’s William Kristol, New York Times columnist David Brooks, and Charles Krauthammer of the Washington Post

Please Check out song called teapartiers I can’t hear you at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJfboOindCo

Here’s a verse

Doctors are retiring earlier but we’re getting 17000 new IRS
This is how Obama creates health care jobs I guess
For 234 years this country’s been God’s blessing.
Now he’s following Cloward and Piven’s to bankrupt the country I’m guessing
If Obamacare gives Grandma and Grandpa a scare
Think how when their rationed and die earlier we’ll save on healthcare

Hey guys if you fought at Iwo or the Chosen
when they stop giving your wife her meds and her last breath comes over her face
you’ll find comfort knowing Nancy’d gladly take her place.

Bill Kristol and the Heritage Foundation is part of the Republican Party Corporate and Imperial movement – whom WANT wars in that region. You are nutz, so I won’t ask that question.

Paleoconservatarian said:
So to recap, of all the chuckle heads who posted to this thread to make fun of “Glenn’s Theory”…

2:18 at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYYLr-7lqMQ

…only two had the courage to challenge any part of it. Actually, the quotation regarding Babylon and the Bushes doesn’t have any relation to “Glenn’s Theory,” since the “Bush’s” don’t factor into it. Again, 2:18. And since both chose the same quotation, I presume this to be merely a talking point lifted from a site critical of “Glenn’s Theory.”

So… when asked to counter or dispel Glenn’s ‘conspiracy’ talk, we’re offered noting but non-sequitur talking points and the appeal to ridicule logical fallacy. Can no one who posts here legitimately counter “Glenn’s Theory?”

It’s sort of an unfair question to the posters here for not even Kristol bothered to actually do the work and debunk “Glenn’s Theory” with facts. The same with Maddow. The same with Mathews. etc. etc. They can’t, and don’t, for the facts, broken down to their simplest expression, are true. Both Islamists and hardcore elements on the left are not compatible with our current system and seek to overthrow it’s influence. It might be argued that the facts are true but aren’t particularly important, for the influence of either the hardcore left or radical Islamists are minimal, but even this hasn’t been attempted. Now what remains is to determined why the facts aren’t receiving play in other media.

A true cynic might see this whole row purely as a play over domestic politics to see, going into the presidential nomination season, which political voice has greater ascendancy on the right; a libertarian television host with 2+ million viewers and influence in the tea-party or the neo-con editorial staff of a magazine with a readership of 65,000 wedded to the legacy of recent republican presidents.

Wasting time and energy on anything Beck says is only for the completely moronic or brainwashed Jesus Camp brood that ride dinosaurs. You want history – get an expert – not Beck, Hannity or Limbaugh. All of them failed students with the gift of “hate and fear mongering” gab.

JazzyJim said:
LOL. Too funny. A Beck Conspiracy Theorist Supporter. Didn’t you guys rail on Rosie O’Donnell for asking questions about 9/11?? You have Beck with the most outrageous conspiracy theories DAILY.

First of all Jazzy, I’m not a member of the “you guys” club. Secondly, I believe anyone has the right–and generally the responsibility–to ask questions that will lead them to the TRUTH–for so long as their inquiries do not compromise national security (here, I am talking about classified information, etc.) Sadly though, for many, the TRUTH is just too tough to take, and when confronted with the TRUTH, people who don’t want a thing to be true go into denial. As it turns out, I believe we know the truth about 9/11, but there are some people out there who still believe George W Bush flew BOTH planes into the WTC and bailed out just before they hit…or, something to that effect.

X-3 says:
“I believe anyone has the right–and generally the responsibility–to ask questions that will lead them to the TRUTH”

But Beck routinely lies and he’s an irresponsible, yellow propagandist. He can been seen inciting civil war. It’s so weird: when my wife listens to Beck, she gets “an overwhelming feeling of evil” too. I asked her why, and she said that she could tell that he is a liar by HOW he speaks.

I’m more empirical and philosophically trained. Beck lies and we prove this day after day. I have a long list of posts detailing Beck’s false claims, and I don’t post nearly all the ones I know about. I have a large unused file detailing many of Beck’s lies.

Beck is on the wrong side of history again, but — not surprising — he was on the side of democracy in the Middle East in support of Bush’s war of choice against Iraq. He hasn’t changed his mind: Glenn Beck is a hypocrite through and through. I prove this with facts and logic over and over again. And this begs the question: why does Beck has such a large following?

Yes, he’s persuasive and cunning and gifted. He’s also highly skilled at manipulating his viewers; Beck is a master manipulator. Why else would more of his followers not hear the lies I could detect before starting The Glenn Beck Review. He programs his viewers to dismiss any and all criticism of him, no matter how factual and unbiased, no matter how honest. This has led me to a recent re-evaluation of his intellect as of late. He’s still ignorant about the world, but he’s very bright, clever, gifted, persuasive and intelligent. It’s taken a while to see that, but the link about his manipulation skills forced me into rethinking just how smart he is.

It’s still all about Glenn Beck. His motivations, according to Beck’s biographer, Alex Zaitchik, “are, and have always been, money and fame. If Beck has a true religion, it’s not Patriotism. It’s not Mormonism. It’s cross-platform self-marketing.” Those who do not grasp this about him, can not hear his lies or hypocrisies, do not recognize that this uneducated, ignorant man is a charlatan and yellow propagandist, are victims more than they are supporters. They are to be pitied, not respected.

I’m actually starting to enjoy GlennBeck’s show. He is becoming more hysterical by the week. This becoming entertainment, in a sad way really. He’s been running paranoid delusions of conspiracy for a long time but now its just getting weird.
He’s now getting into the “anit-christ”. He’s the modern version of mentally ill man in an sandwich board declaring “the End in Near”.