Charles is smart and knows what he is talking about. Even though, he sometimes manipulates issues sometimes, I’d take him any day over the Big guy. The Big guy just needs a hu, wants to be included in all activities.
If BO gives him a call and made up, he would be singing his praises. I say just ignore him and let him cry or buy more oxycotton.

If I were Rush I would not f*&k with Charles. He was paralized during Harvard medical school and didn’t miss a semester. NOT DUMB!!! And not someone who lacks guts… back off man your in the deep end of the water.

This is just stupid. It was a memorial and anyone who doesn’t have anything nice to say can just shut their mouths for a while.

skyfet said:
Charles is smart and knows what he is talking about. Even though, he sometimes manipulates issues sometimes, I’d take him any day over the Big guy. The Big guy just needs a hu, wants to be included in all activities.If BO gives him a call and made up, he would be singing his praises. I say just ignore him and let him cry or buy more oxycotton.

Interesting. I don’t think you can trust either of them.

Both are neocon warmongers who more than pull their weight in bankrupting the country through neverending war and interventionist foreign policy. They take good care of their half of the welfare – warfare state.

Why should he back off,I would like to see both of them face to face having a discussion.I am curious how Rush would handle having to actually spew his hate in person on Air and face to face with someone who is clearly much smarter than he is.

Charles is an elitist but I’m sure they both agree with most of America that Obama is a bad president.

Dave Noland said:
It’s about time the spineless conservative media stand up to this bomb thrower. Question is now can the GOP elected officials stand up to him?

It’s time you STFU!

I love them both. Charles is highly intelligent, but I don’t always agree with him. I can see both their points frankly.

Skyfet says:

Charles is smart and knows what he is talking about.

You know I’m saving this for later!

Just_MC said:
Interesting. I don’t think you can trust either of them.

Both are neocon warmongers who more than pull their weight in bankrupting the country through neverending war and interventionist foreign policy. They take good care of their half of the welfare – warfare state.

That’s what I meant by manipulating issues. He knows the facts, but uses it to further the neocons mentality. But on the local issues, he appears to be astute. His kind of smartness, can be considered evil as he uses it in the right way when it suites him, but on other issues, he just misrepresents it because he has the facts. Sad!

Dave Noland said:
It’s about time the spineless conservative media stand up to this bomb thrower. Question is now can the GOP elected officials stand up to him?

Around the same time the spinless liberals stand up to Olbermann, Ed, Kos, Mike Malloy, etc.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Why should he back off,I would like to see both of them face to face having a discussion.I am curious how Rush would handle having to actually spew his hate in person on Air and face to face with someone who is clearly much smarter than he is.

Is your multiple refrences to “face-to-face” some kind of joke that Charles is in a wheelchair??? I’m not assuming, I’m just asking?

notsofast said:
It’s time you STFU!

As in the words of another poster “Go away little boy the Adults are talking.”

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I love them both. Charles is highly intelligent, but I don’t always agree with him. I can see both their points frankly.

Skyfet says:

Charles is smart and knows what he is talking about.

You know I’m saving this for later!

Please don’t start with me here. Have I not given you enough for one day. I thought you’d run far away from me after what you’ve encountered, but you keep coming back for more. Go away.

Sky, do you take medication for your delusions?

Now quiet, Rush is starting and I’m sure he’s got alot to say!

You know, it gave me hope when I saw many conservatives, Glenn Beck included, as well as many on this site, put aside their politics and gave the President credit for giving a good speech. It showed me that poltics doesn’t define them and they can give credit where credit was due.

Then people like Rush weighed in. You know, I don’t hate Limbaugh, not in the least. He doesn’t make me angry, he irritates me sometimes, but I shrug it off. I was sincerely hoping he would at least say one nice thing about the President, something that the President deserves, even if it’s just once. I was truly disappointed. I guess I thought Rush was better than that, but sadly, it looks like he isn’t.

I know conservatives are angry at the accusations thrown at them by many liberals in the wake of the shooting. You have every right to be angry, and you should be. But those of you who still slam the President over this speech, it’s just greatly disappointing. I know you’re better than this.

tatboy said:
Is your multiple refrences to “face-to-face” some kind of joke that Charles is in a wheelchair??? I’m not assuming, I’m just asking?

Hell no i didn’t even know that.I want rush to have to say it to his face on Air in front of everyone.

ROCKSTEADY said:
As in the words of another poster “Go away little boy the Adults are talking.”

Then what are YOU doing here, child?

ROCKSTEADY said:
Hell no i didn’t even know that.I want rush to have to say it to his face on Air in front of everyone.

OK, cool… thanks. :)

ROCKSTEADY said:
ROCKSTEADY says:
January 14, 2011 at 12:07 pm ROCKSTEADY(Quote)

Did you get a t-shirt at the Tucson rally, child?

stoogedudes said:
You know, it gave me hope when I saw many conservatives, Glenn Beck included, as well as many on this site, put aside their politics and gave the President credit for giving a good speech. It showed me that poltics doesn’t define them and they can give credit where credit was due. Then people like Rush weighed in. You know, I don’t hate Limbaugh, not in the least. He doesn’t make me angry, he irritates me sometimes, but I shrug it off. I was sincerely hoping he would at least say one nice thing about the President, something that the President deserves, even if it’s just once. I was truly disappointed. I guess I thought Rush was better than that, but sadly, it looks like he isn’t. I know conservatives are angry at the accusations thrown at them by many liberals in the wake of the shooting. You have every right to be angry, and you should be. But those of you who still slam the President over this speech, it’s just greatly disappointing. I know you’re better than this.

I just wanted to say I appriciate your comments when you come here. Very reasonable.

Woo hoo a conservative cage match. I brought popcorn.

Hm, just heard something I didn’t know before. The slogan “together we thrive” was from Obama’s own “organizing for America” website. You have to admit, that’s a little bit interesting and doesn’t quite jive with the notion that Obama had nothing to do with what some think was more of a pep rally.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Hm, just heard something I didn’t know before. The slogan “together we thrive” was from Obama’s own “organizing for America” website. You have to admit, that’s a little bit interesting and doesn’t quite jive with the notion that Obama had nothing to do with what some think was more of a pep rally.

Attacking the victims again. Don’t you have any shame?

tatboy said:
I just wanted to say I appriciate your comments when you come here. Very reasonable.

Thank you for those kind words. To be honest, I’m not always reasonable, as I can sometimes say things I don’t really mean due to some things that are ridiculous that I read on here. But I don’t come here to confront people. There are few things that please me more than being able to find common ground with someone who I disagree with politically.

After all, where I live, I’m surrounded by conservatives, and I don’t know a single conservative who I don’t like, even if I vehemently disagree with them. :)

skyfet said:
Attacking the victims again. Don’t you have any shame?

So now Barry was a victim?

LOL

Priceless!

Did I do that? They didn’t plan the memorial did they? I’m accusing the victims of being used by some on the left that are trying to hijack the tragedy for their own political agenda. I think it’s despicable they tried to take the focus off of the victims and put it on politics.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Sky, do you take medication for your delusions?

Now quiet, Rush is starting and I’m sure he’s got alot to say!

What is sad is that you actually take that Joker seriously. Says a lot about you that your biggest heroes are not people a normal person should be palling arouns with.

notsofast said:
So now Barry was a victim?

LOL

Priceless!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Did I do that? They didn’t plan the memorial did they? I’m accusing the victims of being used by some on the left that are trying to hijack the tragedy for their own political agenda. I think it’s despicable they tried to take the focus off of the victims and put it on politics.

The families of the victims were there, the people in the audience are residents of Tuscon. They are the one who have felt the shock the most, and they choose to express themselves that way. Who are we to question their hearts? you guys should be careful, don’t turn this into a political stuff, it’s a no go area.

Is there anything better in life than a pundit fight?

Yes, a dog with a cone around it’s head. Because that is pretty funny.

skyfet said:
you guys should be careful, don’t turn this into a political stuff, it’s a no go area.

LMAO

That’s all you libs did for the last 5 days!

And no- the victims’ family members where not hooting and hollering during the event.

Nice try Sky, but a large portion of the audience were University students. No matter how you try to spin it, I have NEVER said an unkind word about the victims. Nice try though!!

Thank you Charles. It’s refreshing to see someone on the right address Rush about something, anything. I also want to say to you that I thought the night on Fox’s commentary about the Presidents speech was a welcome surprise to me. I did catch the very end of O’Donnells show and he did not rise to the occasion. It was very dissapointing.

notsofast said:
sky

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Nice try Sky, but a large portion of the audience were University students. No matter how you try to spin it, I have NEVER said an unkind word about the victims. Nice try though!!

This is shameful. By ignoring their plight you are insulting them. You two do not live there, you didn’t feel the shock. So who are you to tell the people who live (college or not) in the area how to react, when they’ve been feeling sorrow for the past few days. Come on! be reasonable.

Kraut has recently become part of the DC bunch. Rush has much more stock and is a better investment value than good ol’ Krauthammer.

Can’t wait to listen to Rush in 25 mins!!!

Sky, I’ll talk to you again AFTER you take your meds. It’s like talking to a brick wall. No matter how many times you say it or how you try to spin things I say, I feel nothing but sorrow for the victims and nothing but disgust for those on teh left trying to score political points from the tragedy.

Krauthammer’s actually a fairly intelligent person. I believe he’s the one who told people not to underestimate Barack Obama and that he was just getting started, shortly after came the lame duck Congress.

As a conservative I too was disappointed in the “slobbering” and I’ve been disappointed lately in Kraut on a few issues. It certainly doesn’t mean I don’t agree with him on others, and with Rush on others as well. That’s the difference, as conservatives we realize you don’t have to agree lock step with everyone on your “side”.

I respect both of them, and admire AND abhor some aspects of BOTH of their commentary. It’s called being an adult.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Krauthammer’s actually a fairly intelligent person. I believe he’s the one who told people not to underestimate Barack Obama and that he was just getting started, shortly after came the lame duck Congress.

You are basing this on the assumption that because someone’s intelligent, they know how to pick Presidents that will actually do good. Intelligence does not mean you know how to effectively choose a leader.

tatboy said:
He was paralized during Harvard medical school and didn’t miss a semester. NOT DUMB!!! And not someone who lacks guts… back off man

For some reason I always assumed his injury happened after he was already a Dr.

I didn’t think it possible but my admiration of him just went up.

If you want stupid, fumbling, and rambling you still have Rush to listen to!

WCinWI said:
Intelligence does not mean you know how to effectively choose a leader.

Sure does help tho.

timzank said:
As a conservative I too was disappointed in the “slobbering” and I’ve been disappointed lately in Kraut on a few issues. It certainly doesn’t mean I don’t agree with him on others, and with Rush on others as well. That’s the difference, as conservatives we realize you don’t have to agree lock step with everyone on your “side”.

I respect both of them, and admire AND abhor some aspects of BOTH of their commentary. It’s called being an adult.

Exactly Tim. As a Conservative, I totally agree with this point.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Sky, I’ll talk to you again AFTER you take your meds. It’s like talking to a brick wall. No matter how many times you say it or how you try to spin things I say, I feel nothing but sorrow for the victims and nothing but disgust for those on teh left trying to score political points from the tragedy.

It’s you who is accusing them of putting up a pep-rally instead of a memorial.

skyfet said:
ust_MC

Precisely. Well said.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Sure does help tho.

It depends what type of intelligence you’re talking about. You can go to an elite school and have poor communication skills or you can go to a state school and know how to network. I’d prefer the latter.

Intelligence does not = power unless known how to capitalize.

timzank said:
As a conservative I too was disappointed in the “slobbering” and I’ve been disappointed lately in Kraut on a few issues. It certainly doesn’t mean I don’t agree with him on others, and with Rush on others as well. That’s the difference, as conservatives we realize you don’t have to agree lock step with everyone on your “side”.

I respect both of them, and admire AND abhor some aspects of BOTH of their commentary. It’s called being an adult.

Is that why Glenn Beck wants “purity” among conservatives? Is that why Scott Brown, John McCain & Olympia Snowe are called RINOs? I thought the entire point of the Tea Party was that they wanted “real conservatives” in office. Maybe I’m mistaken?

WCinWI said:
. You can go to an elite school and have poor communication skills or you can go to a state school and know how to network..

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Did you inadvertently reverse that?

skyfet said:
That’s what I meant by manipulating issues. He knows the facts, but uses it to further the neocons mentality. But on the local issues, he appears to be astute. His kind of smartness, can be considered evil as he uses it in the right way when it suites him, but on other issues, he just misrepresents it because he has the facts. Sad!

Precisely. Well said. (And this time, I made sure I had the quote right…, LOL)

No – I have two degrees. One advanced.

It’s a simple concept. Just because you go to an elite school, that doesn’t mean that you have the personal communication skills required to cope in society. It’s not my fault that you don’t get that concept.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Is that why Glenn Beck wants “purity” among conservatives? Is that why Scott Brown, John McCain & Olympia Snowe are called RINOs? I thought the entire point of the Tea Party was that they wanted “real conservatives” in office. Maybe I’m mistaken?

Snowe is a Rino. McCain we can work with. Just wait til Graham gets primaried. Brown will be interesting because he won’t have the same support that he initially had. I dunno – Mass and the East Coast in general is covered in debt. As long as I don’t have to pay for it, so be it. Let them live in a perpetual debt cocoon.

Rush is starting out on fire.

For all my conservative brethren, he’s starting with the OFA affiliation to the t-shirts!

Krauthammer is VERY clever. Limbaugh can’t hold his jock.

But Krauthammer is sneaky. Uses the truth when it serves, and plays some very ugly politics-before-honesty games when he chooses. He’s REALLY good at it. Takes a while and a lot of attention to spot it, but you will eventually. I was a big fan for quite a while, but I’ve caught him at his games a few too many times now.

Still useful commentary a lot of the time, but like anything, requires some temperance.

WaterCloset in Wisconsin : Thank God for your advanced degree. However, if you went to an “elite” school, you would understand the true value of the “networking” that goes on there. Ask Daddy and Jr. Bush, maybe they could explain to someone with your “advanced” degrees.

PS Don’t get your T-shirt all in a bind.

Dave Noland said:
It’s about time the spineless conservative media stand up to this bomb thrower. Question is now can the GOP elected officials stand up to him?

No. They can not and will not. They are afraid of him. Failure to so, however, further shows the far right’s acceptance of this type of rhetoric as being acceptable.

skyfet said:
It’s you who is accusing them of putting up a pep-rally instead of a memorial.

It was a pep rally. And if Organizing For America arranged everything and distributed the t-shirts, then Mr Obama cannot pretend that he was just there to give a speech and had nothing to do with the sideshow.

So I think Krauthammer reacted too quickly with his praise for Obama. He bought into Gibbs’ explanation that the White House was not responsible for the campaign rally atmosphere.

tatboy said:
If I were Rush I would not f*&k with Charles. He was paralized during Harvard medical school and didn’t miss a semester. NOT DUMB!!! And not someone who lacks guts… back off man your in the deep end of the water.

F-off man! Rush is the only one that got guts! The rest of the these namby pambys can go to hell. Rush doesnt take prisoners, and has more brains than the lot of them.

The Tea Weasel said:
WaterCloset in Wisconsin : Thank God for your advanced degree. However, if you went to an “elite” school, you would understand the true value of the “networking” that goes on there. Ask Daddy and Jr. Bush, maybe they could explain to someone with your “advanced” degrees.

PS Don’t get your T-shirt all in a bind.

Why would I need an elite education to network. I networked just fine at my Big 10 institution and California state school. Nice attempt but I see that you don’t care about civil discourse….thus breaking Obama’s call to action. Not cool. :)

notsofast said:
Then what are YOU doing here, child?

Dont take no shite from these assholes, nsf!

I LUV that Mark Levin is threatening to SUE Chris Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow, Schultz and Scarborough!

Mark Levin to MSNBC Hosts: ‘I’m Gonna Drag Your Ass Into Court’

http://www.breitbart.tv/mark-levin-to-msnbc-hosts-im-gonna-drag-your-ass-into-court/

J Baustian said:
It was a pep rally. And if Organizing For America arranged everything and distributed the t-shirts, then Mr Obama cannot pretend that he was just there to give a speech and had nothing to do with the sideshow. So I think Krauthammer reacted too quickly with his praise for Obama. He bought into Gibbs’ explanation that the White House was not responsible for the campaign rally atmosphere.

Can’t even get Faux to buy into that one:
http://nation.foxnews.com/arizona-shooting-rampage/2011/01/13/t-shirts-handed-out-tucson-memorial

juan said:
I LUV that Mark Levin is threatening to SUE Chris Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow, Schultz and Scarborough! Mark Levin to MSNBC Hosts: ‘I’m Gonna Drag Your Ass Into Court’ http://www.breitbart.tv/mark-levin-to-msnbc-hosts-im-gonna-drag-your-ass-into-court/

To hell with court! Rush drags there asses all over the place three hours a day!!! Thank God for Rush, who tells it like it is!

The Tea Weasel said:
Woo hoo a conservative cage match…

I can see the advertisement now:

“Frankenstein meets The Blob!”

Jim Bronson,
No one said Obama himself printed the T shirts, but the FACT of the matter is, the slogan printed on them came directly from Obama’s website “organizing for America:”. It was entirely political in nature.

WCinWI said:
Why would I need an elite education to network. I networked just fine at my Big 10 institution and California state school. Nice attempt but I see that you don’t care about civil discourse….thus breaking Obama’s call to action. Not cool. :)

Great retort! Assholes cant even follow their leaders orders.

skyfet said:
You two do not live there, you didn’t feel the shock. So who are you to tell the people who live (college or not) in the area how to react,

Son, I may not be able to tell people how they should act at a MEMORIAL SERVICE, but I sure know how you SHOULD NOT ACT and that is by not hooting and hollering.

Stop your spin.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Jim Bronson,No one said Obama himself printed the T shirts, but the FACT of the matter is, the slogan printed on them came directly from Obama’s website “organizing for America:”. It was entirely political in nature.

Changes nothing. Your beef, if you really have one, is with UA.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Krauthammer’s actually a fairly intelligent person.

A fairly intelligent person? A graduate of Harvard medical school and he rates as “fairly” intelligent?

LOL

Newsjunky said:
No. They can not and will not. They are afraid of him

No, they agree with him.

Next!

More awesomeness…..Palin to speak at a hunting convention at the end of this month. Woohoo!

Live from the Rush show.

A caller just asked what would have happened if all the rush to judgment rhetoric had turned out to be true.

That thought never crossed my mind until I heard it just now.

With the uproar a non true meme has created what would have happened? Barely bears thinking of!

Ruling-Class-Dementia has been gaining in krazy kraut for some time. He has consistently been diving head first into the shallow end of the logic and reason pool and it has taken a toll, which shows in his every comment these days.

6 am, somewhere in flyover country, with axes.

Contessa said:
6 am, somewhere in flyover country, with axes.

Huh???

Hugo Daun said:
I can see the advertisement now: “Frankenstein meets The Blob!”

Napalitano versus Nadler?

Kerry versus Frank in an all Mass cage match?

PS……I actually think Kerry would be a better Lurch but I don’t kniow if he can play the harpsicord…….

WCinWI said:
Why would I need an elite education to network. I networked just fine at my Big 10 institution and California state school. Nice attempt but I see that you don’t care about civil discourse….thus breaking Obama’s call to action. Not cool. :)

I’m a Big 10er too!! and Cali state school too!!!

You trying to russle my ID??????!?!?!?!?!?? j/k

BSME – Cal Poly SLO
MSME – Purdue
Ph,D, – Purdue

Go Mustangs and Boilermakers!!!!

Hit , instead of .

Poor typing prowess fo sho…..

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Jim Bronson,
No one said Obama himself printed the T shirts, but the FACT of the matter is, the slogan printed on them came directly from Obama’s website “organizing for America:”. It was entirely political in nature.

Niether Obama or Oganizing For America had anything to do with the t-shirts dumbass. the shirts were not sold either…..you’re clearly insulting the people of Tucson by complaining about the way mourn their fallen….Obama gave you wingnuts a free pass and you still dont appreciate it. assholes like you will eventually drive yourself nuts with all the pent up hate you got……I think you may need an intervention….all signs indicate to me that you have the potential to be the next crazy parking lot revolutionary….SEEEK HELP

ProObamaAgenda said:
Niether Obama or Oganizing For America had anything to do with the t-shirts dumbass. the shirts were not sold either…..you’re clearly insulting the people of Tucson by complaining about the way mourn their fallen….Obama gave you wingnuts a free pass and you still dont appreciate it. assholes like you will eventually drive yourself nuts with all the pent up hate you got……I think you may need an intervention….all signs indicate to me that you have the potential to be the next crazy parking lot revolutionary….SEEEK HELP

People like you amaze me. So sure of yourself like you got it right from the One himself. What makes you so samn sure that axelrod and the gang didn’t have a hand in suggesting or planning the rally. I have no idea but my mind is open to all possibilities. You on the other hand, dumb liberal hack with derangement syndrome.

J Baustian said:
It was a pep rally. And if Organizing For America arranged everything and distributed the t-shirts, then Mr Obama cannot pretend that he was just there to give a speech and had nothing to do with the sideshow.

So I think Krauthammer reacted too quickly with his praise for Obama. He bought into Gibbs’ explanation that the White House was not responsible for the campaign rally atmosphere.

The University gave out the shirt.

skyfet said:
The University gave out the shirt.

The university is subsidized with tax dollars, confiscated by force. No one gave out the shirt. The shirt was paid for in part with the tuition money of students and in balance with stolen goods.

Rushbo vs FOX? Hard to root for either one.

Limbaugh, like Beck and others have a product to sell. If he said anything even remotely sane, his listeners would bail. Limbaugh needs to talk total bs to keep his listeners glued to the radio. He knows that.

Charlie doesn’t want to mess with the Best…. Sharpton wants Rush hauled b4 congress so he can explain his “comments”on radio….. do you really think Rush is sweating this FOX talking head?

tatboy said:
Is your multiple refrences to “face-to-face” some kind of joke that Charles is in a wheelchair??? I’m not assuming, I’m just asking?

Ummm…no. Face to face means in person. Not sure where the defensive bit comes from. By the way, I had no idea Krauthammer was paralyzed till I read this posting today. It doesn’t change my opinion of him.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Hm, just heard something I didn’t know before. The slogan “together we thrive” was from Obama’s own “organizing for America” website. You have to admit, that’s a little bit interesting and doesn’t quite jive with the notion that Obama had nothing to do with what some think was more of a pep rally.

Stop changing the goalposts. The assertion by the right was that the Obama administration organized the shirt disbursing. If (note: I said IF) the slogan or it’s derivative originated from OfA, and another person unaffiliated with OfA (you, the accuser have to prove that there was) used that sloganeering — it still does not support the notion that Obama or his administration organized the disbursement of the shirts or their printing for the memorial. A has nothing to do with B or vice versa. I know rightwingers have a problem with logic. .

Just_MC said:
The university is subsidized with tax dollars, confiscated by force. No one gave out the shirt. The shirt was paid for in part with the tuition money of students and in balance with stolen goods.

What a vacuous argument.

timzank said:
As a conservative I too was disappointed in the “slobbering” and I’ve been disappointed lately in Kraut on a few issues. It certainly doesn’t mean I don’t agree with him on others, and with Rush on others as well. That’s the difference, as conservatives we realize you don’t have to agree lock step with everyone on your “side”.

I respect both of them, and admire AND abhor some aspects of BOTH of their commentary. It’s called being an adult.

No, it’s because you are an ideological zealot. Your side is right ALL of the time (in your mind) regardless of facts. Can you name one thing that you disagree with Rush Limbaugh and prove me wrong?

TeaPartyPatriot said:
Ruling-Class-Dementia has been gaining in krazy kraut for some time. He has consistently been diving head first into the shallow end of the logic and reason pool and it has taken a toll, which shows in his every comment these days.

We are truly blessed to read your genius postings every day. Krauthammer forgets more in a day than you will ever know during your lifetime. Put a plug in it, teabagger!

skyfet said:
That’s what I meant by manipulating issues.

Do you recall who said “never let a crisis go to waste?” I suppose all points in the political spectrum try to manipulate issues.

That said, my take on 0bama’s speech is this:

He was eloquent and his remarks were both to some degree healing and apolitical. What troubled me was the reaction of those in attendance. Who the hell applauds at a memorial service?!

Maybe the better question is WHY does anyone applaud at a memorial service? Was the crowd manipulated by some in attendance? I don’t know but it’s a question I have to ask and I believe it’s a fair question.

In the end, the entire affair seemed more like 0bama’s 2012 campaign kickoff than a memorial service.

Just_MC said:
The university is subsidized with tax dollars, confiscated by force. No one gave out the shirt. The shirt was paid for in part with the tuition money of students and in balance with stolen goods.

This is a more important fact than most will realize.

Gasket said:
Just_MC said:
The university is subsidized with tax dollars, confiscated by force. No one gave out the shirt. The shirt was paid for in part with the tuition money of students and in balance with stolen goods.
What a vacuous argument.

Okay, then where did the money come from to pay for the shirts? One could argue the fraction of the shirts that was paid with tuition was surrendered willingly, assuming no one who pays tuition was unhappy with that use of funds. To the extent the school is subsidized by taxpayers, this money is confiscated against their will.

IF you let people opt out and get their money back, that objection goes away. But if not, you are taking from them against their will.

Shirts? You’re worried about shirts, Just_MC? Shut up, Now.

Asshole.

The Right tried to don the mantle of “victim” this week, and, frankly, it’s pissed a lot of people off.

This last week woke people up, and the reaction from the right has only served to paint themselves as something akin to that little child you see at the supermarket, screaming and throwing things, with a a distressed mother trying as best to hush the brat up.

To the Right: You deserved what you got after this tragedy. You talked your way into it. Now, you refuse to admit it and you are throwing tantrums. You forgot about voters like me. Swing voters. I will remember this when I go to the polls in 2012. My advice: If you didn’t take a bullet in Tuscon, or lose someone there, stop playing the victim. It’s tasteless,

Look what we have here… someone from the right attempting to play victim again using t-shirts as an excuse.

Limpdick , drug abuser is a pig. Fvck him.

PsychedelicShroom said:
The Right tried to don the mantle of “victim” this week, and, frankly, it’s pissed a lot of people off.

Your name provides insight as to all that’s wrong with your ability to reason.

scootrbum said:
Limpdick , drug abuser is a pig. Fvck him.

Now that’s a witty comment–for a fourth grader.

Poor LimpBalls couldn’t have a football team, so he’s got to play the game over the airwaves:

Team Limp verses Team Faux = listeners entertained, advertisers win.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Hm, just heard something I didn’t know before. The slogan “together we thrive” was from Obama’s own “organizing for America” website. You have to admit, that’s a little bit interesting and doesn’t quite jive with the notion that Obama had nothing to do with what some think was more of a pep rally.

I’m glad you found that gem…I thought that sounded too much like a campaign slogan to be just a coincidence.

Shirts? What the hell does shirts have to do with the issue? Limbaugh was either caught making a mis-statement, or he didn’t fully understand just how that statement sounded. In any case, maybe they should have had Limbaugh on to discuss his statement.