Gonna be interesting as Olby, Press, and others try to paint this as racist while Beck is espousing and supporting Dr. Kings teachings verbatim .

As I’ve mentioned before, you can go after Beck for a lot of stuff, but the race one is gonna be a problem, you won’t nail him on that.

What grade are we in here? This tit for tat amongst unimportant cable news pundits and so called journalist is really very boorish.

Do you remember ’83, when the Beach Boys were banned from performing on the mall for the Fourth because James Watts thought they weren’t wholesome enough and would attract a bad element? Nancy Reagan even tried to intervene.

Of course this has nothing to do with nothing and unless they’re hoping to preserve the sanctity of MLK’s speech and prevent all future non-commemorative events at that location on that particular date, I really don’t think the Park Service could deny his application, but it’s a bit of useless trivia that I thought could be thrown into the mix.

Bill Press is a Dem shill.

Yeah, KO, anything you disagree with is racist. We seen BHO pull that canard time and time again!

Olbermann seeing racism in absolutely everything. What a shock.

No comment on Beck’s stupid racist comments? Just comments about Keith? No critical thinking going on here as usual. Beck is a clown and an embarrassment. I often wondered what kind of brain dead idiots would even sit and watch his bullshit. Now I know.

So, one lame white guy (Christopher) is trying defending another really lame white guy (Press) when he says that another better-than-average white guy (Beck) is trying to usurp the legacy of a great black man (King).

Tommy, simply agreeing with Press that you both don’t like Beck is not the same as defending him. You’ve said nothing that backs up Press’ point that Beck is in any way racist or is trying to desecrate the memory of Dr. King. The only thing you mention is that Beck once said that Obama has a problem with white people, which is a point that can arguably be backed up based on numerous instances of Obama’s anglophobia.

timzank said:
Gonna be interesting as Olby, Press, and others try to paint this as racist while Beck is espousing and supporting Dr. Kings teachings verbatim .

As I’ve mentioned before, you can go after Beck for a lot of stuff, but the race one is gonna be a problem, you won’t nail him on that.

It will be even more interesting if Dr. Alveda King is onstage.

The only thing you mention is that Beck once said that Obama has a problem with white people, which is a point that can arguably be backed up based on numerous instances of Obama’s anglophobia.

And with Obama’s DOJ dropping the New Black Panther case it had already won, the question arises again.

Tommy,

He also famously asked Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) to prove he wasn’t working with terrorists.

What does that have to do with race?

rox, just what are these racist comments Beck has made? Calling Obama a racist? Since Obama attended Rev. Wright’s church for twenty years, and Wright’s best friend is Louis Farrakhan, who has called the white race “blue eyed devils”, that seems to give some validity to Beck’s racism charge.

Look, nothing Tommy Christopher writes about or does or says is interesting. And this is a prime example.

is tommy in charge of vacuuming the whitehouse pressroom after the daily briefings too?

How ironic that a guy who compares Beck’s event to Al Qaeda holding a rally at Ground Zero would write a book called “Toxic Talk.”

Why do you liberals always have to get racial? Can’t you leave race out of anything?

Chris Jones said:
Why do you liberals always have to get racial?

According to Atty General Holder, if we don’t discuss race then we’re cowards. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t I guess. That said, if you introduce race into any conversation then you’d better have something to justify it.

clean up and reject the racist element of the GOP and we will be glad not to have to NEVER FORGET that aspect of ugly scum in the GOP.

Chris Jones said:
Why do you liberals always have to get racial? Can’t you leave race out of anything?

Liberals argue that Conservatives ignore race when race is relevant. Perceived insensitivity to cultural differences is what irks them so.

roxsteady says:
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No comment on Beck’s stupid racist comments?”

Why don’t ya quote them Rox? I haven’t heard him say any.

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clean up and reject the racist element of the GOP”

Says the BHO shill.

Racists statements?

Like these from libs?

“A few years ago, he (Obama) would be serving us coffee.” — Bill Clinton

” He (Obama) doesn’t sound like a Negro unless he wants to.” Senator Harry Reid

He (BHO) said I know this is going to be — lead to some, quote, difficulty for the guys who work on those rigs.
Well, if he thinks that some guys on the rigs are the only people that are going to be affected by a six-month oil moratorium, he’s out of his cotton-picking mind. — Julia Reed, Newsweek senior editor on CNN on Anderson Cooper 360, June 16.

“He ( Obama) couldn’t sell watermelons to….” Dan Rather

“See, Barack’s been talking down to black people … I want to cut his nuts off.” Jesse Jackson

Bill Maher on how he expected BHO to act with BP: “I was expecting a “real black president”– you know, the kind that “lifts up his shirt so they can see the gun in his pants.”

Way off topic for the OP, so apologies, but…

@notsofast: Out of curiosity, I wonder if you had a position when Lou Dobbs almost said “cotton-picking”?

Former Justice Department Lawyer Accuses Holder of Dropping New Black Panther Case for Racial Reasons

Published June 30, 2010

A former Justice Department attorney who quit his job to protest the Obama administration’s handling of the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case is accusing Attorney General Eric Holder of dropping the charges for racially motivated reasons.”

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Way off topic for the OP, so apologies, but…

Magister-Out of curiosity, I wonder if you had a position when Julia Reed DID say “cotton-picking”?

@notsofast: Actually, I thought that I had commented on the post that I quickly pulled for the video, but apparently it was elsewhere. Nonetheless, I’m pretty sure that I argued somewhere that I disagreed with the racialization of the term.

Don’t you see that anyone to the right of Bill Press or Keith Olbermann has no right to speak in a public forum. It’s like a Nazi rally every time you open your mouth, from when you say goodbye to your kids when they go goosestepping off to school in the morning to when you order lunch at the McDonald’s drivethru. All of these are examples of hate crimes, and we should oppose them without exception. A democracy can’t function if just anyone is allowed to speak. No speech for teabaggers!

Press is agitated because he like most Leftists believe that MLK and his legacy are the sole property of the American Left, despite the fact MLK was a lifelong Republican (the party of abolition, and the Civil Rights Act of 1964)

His legacy has in fact been twisted by the poverty pimps and Statists that populate todays Democrat Party. Apparently they believe that like the Constitution, MLK’s words are “living and breathing” and may be reinterpreted to serve whatever agenda liberals are pushing.

King’s words taken literally are closer today to conservative and Libertarian than any idea emanating from the Left.

Nonetheless, I’m pretty sure that I argued somewhere that I disagreed with the racialization of the term.”

Did you argue against the racialization of the terms Barack Obama or community organizer or fiscal irresponsibility or immigration law reform?

@notsofast: I’m not sure of your point and I really don’t want to get into an involved back and forth. None of the terms you mention your last comment are racial and I’ve never implied that they were anywhere on the web, whether in a post that I’ve written or in a comment to someone else’s blog.

I just found it interesting that you had included “cotton-picking” in the list of comments that you perceive as racial, while I consider a common colloquialism and was a little surprised that you had lumped it in with non-PC language.

And again, we’re way off from the original topic. Apologies to all.

magister, did you condemn Eli Whitney when he told his wife to “keep your cotton-picking hands off my gin?”

And yes, criticism of BHO is considered racist by libs.

roxsteady said:
No comment on Beck’s stupid racist comments? Just comments about Keith? No critical thinking going on here as usual. Beck is a clown and an embarrassment. I often wondered what kind of brain dead idiots would even sit and watch his bullshit. Now I know.

I have wondered what kind of brain dead idiots wouldn’t listen to Beck. Now I know!! If you had listened you would know Beck is NO racist!

There are some days when I read Tommy’s articles and I laugh, there are others days that I ask myself: Why did I bother. This is one of those days. WTF? The idiocy of this article is amazing.

Tommy hoping that Beck’s rally is quashed by Olbermann’s viewers weighing in on it. A journalist (and I use the term loosely, for sure) who wants only one side heard.

Poor Tommy, as an esteemed member of the White House Press Corpse, he has embarrassed himself yet again.

I’m sure Ted-Bagee will be here soon to support his good friend Tommy.

Sorry magister, but “cotton-picking” is a well known “code word.”

Bill Press and Keith Oberman motto…

“We build ourselve UPby trying to tear the people at the top DOWN!

Unfortunately it does not work for them….

Give America a 4th of July present…GO AWAY…far far AWAY!

I’m back and would like to apologize to those of you who I cursed out in my earlier post. I was upset because the Swim and Fitness club I belong to double dipped into my account, billing me twice for member fees. I spent most of the morning on the phone trying to get the second charge removed. Naturally, I couldn’t go off on them like I wanted to and, I took it out on you folks. While I still find many of you to be ignornat of the facts on many occasions, I should not have directed my anger at you. By the way, if you care, I got the charge removed after speaking with the head of billing.

@notsofast: Well, I used the phrase for more than forty years without ever thinking it racial or possibly having a racist connotation, which is why I objected when the Obamakids tried to take it from me.

Of course, now I say “dang-blamed-it” as a politically-correct non-curse.

…oh and I have to say that after losing “cotton-picking”, listening to Jerry Clower hasn’t been the same.

Just as I said, no real critical thinking going on here.

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roxsteady says:
July 1, 2010 at 5:48 pm

I’ll bite. What gym?

I can’t bring myself to join a gym just yet. There’s so much “outside” where I can run and such, I feel like I should take up the free stuff before paying for it.

Oh… the only reason I’m going this route is because everyone else seems to have made the point that (A) Beck has free speech rights, (B) he’s no racist, and (C) TC has gone off the rails and is actively trying to shut down speech he disagrees with. No need to restate the facts, when they’ve already been stated.

@ImNotBlue: If you follow Tommy’s link to the Park Service regulations, you’ll see that dependent on the size of the event there’s a timetable of when specific plans must be submitted, items required and it all culminates in a pre-event walk-through to make certain that everything is as promised (i.e. number of porta-pottys, first aid stations, signage, etc)

It also says that applications for small events which would require none of the special considerations must be submitted at least 48 hours in advance, but the bulk for what I imagine Mr. Beck is planning starts at 45 days in advance, then stair-steps through a number of criteria to the actual event.

I imagine that the Park Service doesn’t issue a permit until all of their requirements have been met. Otherwise, there’d be the whole political issue of revoking a previously issued and other than a (defined) commercial purpose, possible damage to the facility, failure to meet the requirements or a conflict with “park values”, I’m not seeing much of a lot of wiggle room for one to be denied.

(Don’t forget that even the Klan has a right to assembly, so possibly if the Grand Wizard wanted to have a gathering on that particular date… but then, the ACLU could possibly get involved)

IOW: Press is obviously trying to ride the anti-Beck coattails for a bit of publicity, but it appears unlikely that permits are usually given this far in advance and as I’ve said in response to a previous post, the Park Service would have a hard time denying it. Especially, if they don’t want to be taken to court.

(Though if he listed the White House as a group that may try to disrupt his event… but that would be silly)

Not that it particularly shows so well in this diatribe, but Bill Press is probably more full of self hate than Keith Olbermann. I see this as a common character trait amongst the liberal “elite.”

Olbermann’s self loathing is well justified.

Magister says:
July 2, 2010 at 1:43 am

Good points.