Raise this losers taxes Obama! Bye Falafel guy.

Why would any sane person work their tail off to have the gov’t take half of what they earn if they don’t need to?  I’ve been saying this for a long time.  I’d take my millions and retire.  Unfortunately, when they do that scores of people will lose their jobs.  This is what liberals refuse to acknowledge.  Their absolute hatred of those who are successful prevents it. 

“Will the Desperate Housewives soon actually be desperate as entire plotlines revolve around making sure their family doesn’t starve?”

Well, I must admit. Surviving on $400,000 yearly remains is kind of sad. So let me dry my $400,000 tears with this $400,000 tissue. I just don’t know what I’ll do anymore…

“The Ingraham Factor” has a nice ring to it .

I guess he also just can’t make it on 14-million per year.

what about a tax on billionaires, michelle?  is that too egregious as well?

yeah, tough times

dunno how he does it

bill, 

your dividends are only taxed at 15%, and most of your money comes from dividends

so why don’t you just STFU, retire, move to the amalfi coast, and write your novel

All great points…except that no one is suggested a 50% marginal tax rate.  So, I take that back.  None of your points are great.  And so it goes.

what sort of world do we live in where we have numerous ridiculously wealthy people
go on television and COMPLAIN that life is too stressful for them right now?

o’reilly makes over 15 million A YEAR!  a YEAR!  he can buy as many houses 
and women and drugs as he wants.  and he has the nerve to whine about obama
taxing him a little more?  while the rest of the country burns to the ground?

it’s appalling. . 

Ok yeah Ill cut my social security and medicare….so O’reilly will stay on….thats a good idea…

“scores of people will lose their jobs”?

that’s not very many.  

Take your ball and run along home, Billy.

Only the dummies will miss you.

Bill, this may be the best reason for increasing the taxes on the rich.

Because if they cash out on their investments they will have to pay capital gains tax not to mention the loss of income.  Oh wait, I forgot sane people such as yourself aren’t aware of how things work in this country. 

Michelle, why the hell do you people keep promoting this lie. The wealthy DO NOT create jobs. Profits create jobs. Profits come from consumers. Consumers are (or were) middle class working people with good paying jobs. It is the wealthy, stock holders demanding that the corporations ship the jobs overseas where they can get by with paying slave wages, that get rid of jobs. The wealthy, with very few exceptions, don’t give a damn about jobs they care about profits which too often means cutting jobs. Welcome to the real world.

in many ways, o’reilly owes the government for protecting his assets

O’Reilly’s not on MSNBC.

SEIU Stephen Lerner Tells Unions, and Students They Need To Escalate Spread The Crisis All Over US

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuFRq4sKInc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fweaselzippers.us%2F&feature=player_embedded

Why did Obama tax every tax deduction available to him on his 2010 Fed. taxes?

Really, have you ever gotten a job from a poor person?  Moron.

Why do the lefties hate successful people?

You libs can continue to push the Warren Buffet lie, but it won’t make it true.  Even AP has called out Barry on the lie. 

You’re right; the guy asking for spare change creates jobs.

Who is suggesting that?

I appear to be more aware than you, libbie!

When “Poor” people buy goods and services, that’s what creates jobs.  Not tax cuts for the ultra rich.  

i’m just asking, michelle—

should billionaires pay more in taxes?

nevermind millionaires

if millionaires don’t pay more, then the middle class does.

it’s that simple, michelle.

someone has to pay more, to balance the budget. 

you want the middle class to pay more, and i want millionaires to pay more.

The name calling is in line with your other shallow thinking / theories.

Why do you keep beating your wife?

Why didn’t every neocon sign up for a few tours in Iraq?

3 for 3 on childish posts.

Let us know when you’re thinking about dropping “I know you are, but what am I?”

Poor little Michelle…suffering from Teatarditis it appears.  Allow me to help you get out of your own way here.  Nobody pays the top rate of 35% because of the abundance of credits and deductions.  Second, after-tax money that is invested in stocks or bonds are taxed on additional earnings, NOT PRINCIPAL.  If you pay $1000 for some shares of NewsCorp (that’d be about 1/3 of the market cap.), you’re only taxed on the ADDITIONAL income or gain you received, NOT THE ORIGINAL $1000!   And, you only have to pay 15% on those earnings, not 35%.  Loss limitations are indexed but not foregone.   NOBODY would pay 50%, despite what BillO says.  

Silly Teatard, taxes (understanding that is) are for adults.  

This is just another of those increditably ill informed “sound bites” that does not have any basis in fact. The only ones I dislike are those that have become “successful” through no real contribution of their own.

No, they shouldn’t pay a higher rate than everyone else.

And I want the gov’t to cut spending. Not raise $3 of taxes or every $1 in cuts.

And yet it’s accurate.

The 15% is on top of the initial 35%.  Why should be be taxed twice.

Why do you libs keep lying?  He’s taxed 35% and then another 15%.  It must suck for you libs that even some in the liberal media are calling out Ozero on his lies. 

FACT CHECK: Are rich taxed less than secretaries?

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack
Obama makes it sound as if there are millionaires all over America
paying taxes at lower rates than their secretaries.

“Middle-class
families shouldn’t pay higher taxes than millionaires and
billionaires,” Obama said Monday. “That’s pretty straightforward. It’s
hard to argue against that.”

The
data tell a different story. On average, the wealthiest people in
America pay a lot more taxes than the middle class or the poor,
according to private and government data. They pay at a higher rate, and
as a group, they contribute a much larger share of the overall taxes
collected by the federal government.

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-rich-taxed-less-secretaries-070642868.html

Report it Johnny!

Which would mean cuts in Social security and medicare for middle class …so that is what you are suggesting isn’t it? Where else you gonna cut that would make a difference…except maybe defense? What do you people suggest?

No it’s not you silly Teatard!  The 15% is on ADDITIONAL EARNINGS, not the principal. 

How about we all pay more?  Isn’t that the definition of shared sacrifice?  And when Darla will you begin demanding that the government clean itself up and find savings in waste and needless programs?  When will you call for us holding our elected officials to preform their fiduciary duty to the American people and insure that taxpayer dollars are spent wisely?  

Hey if our elected officials are to lazy to reform the tax codes then how about we just let the Bush tax cuts expire in their entirety, why is it that the president only isolates a segment of our population, aren’t we in this together?  Is it not our country, is it not important that we all chip in to save it?

Just wondering. 

Bildo should move to Canada & shack up with Alec Baldwin.

This same tired argument.  Didn’t we hear this from wall street, when we complained that a bank needing bailout money shouldn’t be giving the CEO $20 million bonus.  Response was that is what we need to do to keep good people.  Sorry, people that actually make huge sums of money, don’t quit when you tax them more.  That is fiction.  So if you live in Florida with no income tax, then move to NY.   Does a millionaire quit his job b/c now he is getting taxed on his income?

You are a complete, natural born idiot that doesn’t even deserve to be in this country. Pack your knapsack and get the hell out of the U.S., you non-patriotic American hating scumbag.

VV, I guarantee if I got a hold of the budget, I could fund plenty of useless crap to cut.

What you don’t understand is that some of us don’t worship a pantheon of gods, the head god of which is money. Some of us work not only for money, but for the interest of our jobs, the ability to help others, the inherent dignity of work, the pride and esteem work build, the challenges work offers. You tend to cheapen everything in you simplistic formulaic emissions.

See what I mean?

Which is an utter lie. The closest anyone has proposes is the converse: US $3.00 in cuts for US $1.00 in revenues, and most such plans are 10 : 1. Try to stop lying. If you can.

A very astute analysis, well beyond Michelle-in-Utah and her ilk.

Great rebuttal, Broad!

As I said.

The point Bill (& Michelle) are making is about TOTAL taxes paid (local, state, fed, property, sales, gas, etc. combined). If you’re paying the top marginal rate, then your total taxes are likely around 50% or more.

How much of your money should the government be allowed to take? What do you consider fair? Isn’t 50% enough? Where does it stop? Can the governments appetite for spending ever be satisfied?

Keep up the good fight against ignorance and indifference. It is a noble effort.

Do you ever get sick of being wrong, Royal Dimwit?

$3 in tax hikes for every $1 in spending cuts

http://investmentwatchblog.com/3-in-tax-hikes-for-every-1-in-spending-cuts/

Darla wants us to pay 100% of our income in taxes. Then, the socialist utopia can be achieved.

Amazing! You understand nothing of our tax system.

You know nothing of dignity.  You are the very definition of vile. 

When O’Reilly says that he pays about 50% of his income in taxes that is probably about right as he is calculating his total tax bill, state, local, and federal.  He lives in New York where he pays both a city and state income tax, not to mention property and sales taxes, utility taxes and on and on….  so if he makes $15 million a year as another poster alleges and pays $7.5 million in taxes, just what should be fair to bill and his greater community, just how much of Bill’s money does the state, local, and federal governments deserve.  Not to mention that Bill also employ’s other people engaged in his enterprise with him who also pay those same taxes.  It is clear that through his efforts in business the government is receiving much more than the $ 7.5 million that Bill claims he pays on his individual earnings. 

As long as it’s not your job, right Darla?

But Michelle they already do pay a higer rate.  So based on your statement I assume you are against the Bush tax rates.  You must be for a flat tax.  So you want to raise taxes…but not on the rich…but on the poor.  I think you conservative friends should start spreading the word.  Raise taxes on the poor!  We’ll see how that works out for them in November of 2012.

It is amusing that one of the most successful capitalists EVER is now being called a socialists.  It really puts into perspective the calling of Obama as a socialists.  Fact is, based on the conservative definition of socialist, the majority of Americans are socialists!  I don’t believe that but clearly conservatives do.

O’Reilly is off base with the 50% rate.  Obama is suggesting we go back to the rates we had during the greatest economic period for America in my lifetime.  The top rate would go from 35% to 39.7%, not 50% has O’Reilly suggests.  Getting the facts wrong undermine his argument.

What about local taxes, state taxes, property taxes, sales, tax, gas taxes, so called “luxury taxes”, “sin” taxes, etc., etc.? That’s what we’re talking about here. You probably pay 50% in taxes and don’t even realize it. Hey, lets just make it 60%, or 75%. Heck, lets just make it 100%.

i think you have a fetish for 50, or something

Most “poor” don’t pay income taxes, Ed.   So are you libs screaming for fairness asking them to start paying their “fair” share?

That assumes she has one.

But how will liberty and freedom and and American values survive without Bill??

She’s kind of awkward on TV. She’s much better on radio. Just like Dennis Miller is awkward on radio but is great on TV. I like the sound of “The Miller Factor”.

the working class shares more of the tax burden, as a % of their income

everything we earn, goes out the door for the things we need to survive

most of us don’t even have any savings

the rich invest in capital gains, dividends, hedge funds, etc, and get taxed
at a much lower overall rate than we do

so, the sacrifice isn’t really being shared at all.  

Most of them faked disabilities like their hero, Rush, in order to get out of military service.  

that is the truth

i guess in the mind of republicans, “hate” =  ”asking them to pay slightly more
in taxes” to balance the budget

And then when he dies, the money is taxed another 35% under the death tax (55% after Jan1, 2011).

Most Republicans I’ve met are completely clueless to the tax system.  They make it sound as if they’re well versed with economics and finance, but whenever you talk to them in detail on how they assort the tax schedules, they’re completely clueless.  Many of them don’t even know the rate of their own bracket which is sort of sad and funny at the same time.

that’s the most moronic, ill-informed thing i’ve read in months

Michelle-in-Utah bellowed: “Do you ever get sick of being wrong, Royal Dimwit? $3 in tax hikes for every $1 in spending cuts.http://investmentwatchblog.com...

Michelle-in-Utah, once again you posted an article you didn’t read. It’s the story of Mexican nationals crossing the border and occupying ranches all over again. That was a fabrication, and you embarrassed yourself greatly over it. Now this. And from one of the more disreputable rags in America. The writer was giving a pre-speech analysis of what might be said in the speech. It is an article that predates the speech. Future tense ought to have clued you in. It is not what was said, much less proposed. Read these articles before you post!!!

You obviously didn’t listen to the speech, either. Yes, I know your inane retort. Fine. Don’t listen. But if you don’t, don’t comment on what you didn’t hear!

I’m Flagging your post for the lie it is.
 

I think you need to read better.  He said that most of his taxable income is at 15%.  So let me ask you, why does Bill cry about having 50% of his income taken away on taxes when most of his income is taxed at 15% and the rest is taxed at 35%?  Seems like Bill is the one making stuff up.

Why do righties think they’re rich when they live in a trailer home and drive a PT Cruiser?  

The man makes like 20 million a year from his Fox gig (not inclucing book sales). Yea, how will he survive. For Bill to say that, is a laugh. And an insult to the millions that work for 7 bucks an hour, as compared to Bill’s (at a 50% tax rate) 50K or so per hour.

So does my toilet bowl. You’re welcome to come over at admire it.

Just like when you said the self-employed don’t pay the full 15.3% of their payroll taxes which you were totally wrong about…  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Insurance_Contributions_Act_tax   

To make the investment as a personal investment they would have to first take that money as a dividend and they would actually pay the 15% tax on the dividends, if they leave the investment in a business entity and invest it into stocks and bonds on behalf of the business then you are right in that they would only pay taxes on the earnings…  but the money would belong to the business and they would be taxed at the point that money is removed from the business and converted into a personal investment.  

You speak as if you are an accountant, but I am sure that you are not. 

 Where are you getting this notion that the government is taking 1/2 of everything?  The highest tax rate in America is 35%.  I know you’re probably not a math whiz, but even a moron should know that 35% < 50%.

this exchange says all you need to know:

“CRAMER: Okay, first, I’m going to agree with you, that the market has been fabulous, which is one of the reasons I’m always so astonished when people tell me that the problem is Obama. I mean, it’s clear Washington can be dysfunctional, but Democrats and Republicans not getting together. But when you get offline with CEOs, it’s not just Wall Street, but Industrial America, what they tend to say is, listen, we want to add, we want to hire, we want to grow in the United States, but everything is so up in the air and when it gets to the point where we’re thinking about what Washington’s going to do, we know we’re going to be the loser if President Obama is making the decision, because President Obama does not favor wealth creation and corporate profits. Not, the profits are huge. People have made a lot of money, but that is the rap that I hear.

MATTHEWS: What is it particularly when a banker or a rich guy, anybody who’s got to make thse big decisions—well, let’s look at some of these numbers first, because I think they’re really informative. When President Obama took office January 20th, 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at 7949. Today, it closed at 11, 509, up from yesterday. That’s a 31% increase since Obama’s been president. Well, that alone sould be, wow, this guy’s good. And then there’s corporate profits. The New York Times cites a study by Northeastern University, and economist reports, “since the recovery began in June of 2009, corporate profits captured 88% of the growth in real national income while aggregate wages and salaries accounted for only slightly more than 1% of that growth.” This is the stuff that causes revolutions, from the bottom, not from the top.”

Tune in tomorrow. She may top herself.

Of course being the second most powerful person does have it perks. Bill make as much as the #1 guy in a single week.

“Raising taxes during a recession would be foolish!” said your boy. ;)

I think I love you, Michelle. You’re trying so hard but failing so miserably, and it makes me want to hug you to comfort you. I’m in Arizona, grab one of your 9 sisters and we could meet halfway in Colorado City and show those fundamentalist LDSers a thing or two about bigamy. What say you, woman?

you know, i’m starting to believe the premise that republicans hate obama for 
one reason, and one reason only:

because he’s a successful black liberal with a funny name

and they HATE that

Talking to yourself AND licking yourself? Gawd…

You’re too kind, michelle, ;)

You’re too kind, michelle, ;)

You’ve said that a million times under hundreds of different names and it’s still stupid.

A Lot of those working class pay NO income taxes.  What are you talking about Darla loon?

so michelle *does* wanna raise taxes on workers

got it

Who owns the businesses that provide the goods and services, turning raw materials into usable products?

The consumers?

Nope. Try again.

Texan grunted:

“Raising taxes during a recession would be foolish!” said your boy. ;) 

— But, we’re not in a recession. We’re in a sustained period of economic growth. Not robust growth to be sure. Not necessarily all that solid either. But, in economic terms, it is not a recession. So, your point is pointless. Again. —

But, what kind? That is the question.

Good question. I have the answer. He’s a flaming hypocrite!

Good question. I have the answer. He’s a flaming hypocrite!

We need to tax every income earner and rich person at 100%.

That way, there will be no unemployment, no misery, no “unfairness” and everyone will then be a true patriot.

The solution is so obvious, and yet that rightwinger Obama can’t seem to figure it out.

What branch of the military did Obama serve in?

What branch of the military did Obama serve in?

Yes finally Oreilly is gonna end his show that sounds great ! now im all for the tax raise

like i said, you want workers to pay more.

Kenyan.

(missed point)

he can buy as many houses and women and drugs as he wants.

Now that we know what you’d do with that much money if you made it (and, of course, you wouldn’t long have it if that’s how you live your actual life), something needs to be pointed out to you:

IT. IS. NOT. YOUR. MONEY.

he can buy as many houses and women and drugs as he wants.

Now that we know what you’d do with that much money if you made it (and, of course, you wouldn’t long have it if that’s how you live your actual life), something needs to be pointed out to you:

IT. IS. NOT. YOUR. MONEY.

if businesses don’t have consumers, then what do they have?

Don’t forget the part about him being a complete moron.

He’s only half black, dummy. “Successful?” That’s very debatable.

So, that we get this straight: Falafel-Billy who makes millions and millions per year by sitting in a tv studio and playing the role of a true American threatens to stop making millions and millions per year because he might pay more taxes on his capital gains?

Wow, can anyone ask for a more ridiculing attitude towards the public?

Also the boldness of speaking about punishment for achievers.

The ones who are getting punished and ripped of is the American Middle class.

How many Republicans to you know and talk to about taxes?

I’m guessing 0.

I have a saying, “don’t attribute a persons words / actions to malicious intent if you think they may just be speaking / acting out of ignorance”. I have concluded that you must be the exception.

Raise it to 100%.

Use the tax system as a punitive weapon.

Utopia demands this.

that’s less than it was under REAGAN

I watched the show and you’re full of crap. He didn’t say that most of his income comes from dividends.

Stay stupid with your leftist rhetoric.

“TMP”

One word: Envy.

I won’t have to, since your simple-minded post did it for me.

Like Joe “hairplugs” Biden and his 4 deferrments?

That’s life.

Paris Hilton is a multimillionaire, and all she had to do was be born.

Sucks, but thems the breaks. There are haves, there are have-nots, there are many people in the middle that have more than a true have-not.

Deal with it.

Why doesn’t every liberal run in and get their abortion?

banks, corporations, wall street are all doing fabulously well

and wages and benefits are down

how could he be a complete moron?

isn’t that what republicans want?

market’s up 33% since he took office

The cartoon caricatures dancing around in your head are not, in fact, real people.

Helpful to remember that as you ponder this life.

Why don’t you pay more?

Who do libbies think they’re “intelligent” when the only ones making such claims are libbies?

ok, let’s flip your ridiculous assertion:  let’s have no taxes at all

if it’s not my money…..

Same reason I keep corn-holeing yours

So what you are saying is that as soon as the government gets the hell out of the way and gives the market confidence in the future, then they will unleash their investing power and hire millions of people.
Thanks.

Yeah. Let’s just make it illegal to make more than 200,000 dollars.

Nobody NEEDS that kind of money, after all.

Yeah. Let’s just make it illegal to make more than 200,000 dollars.

Nobody NEEDS that kind of money, after all.

Yeah, because rich people don’t buy things.  Why are liberals the most simplistic, moronic boobs on the planet?

You didn’t answer the question, which isn’t surprising.

You didn’t answer the question, which isn’t surprising.

Yawn

Oh I’m sorry.  We regret to inform you that your race card has been maxed out and rendered useless.  Please choose another card and try again.  Might I suggest the Class Warfare card?  But be warned, it’s rapidly approaching it’s maximum limit as well. 

I’m still waiting for one of you libs to answer the question.  You are screaming about “fairness”.  Does that mean you think those that pay no income tax at all, should also pay their fair share?  Yes or no, libbies!?

Racist.

From Recession To Depression? Obama Speech & Jon Stewart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG109QQTYn0

You do understand, Michelle-in-Utah, that if you go to bed on pink cotton candy you will wake up sticky and discolored?

I’d say Representative Fleming (R-La) increased the credit limit on that measurably yesterday.

But much lower than Carter. That’s the point. It’s not only the number that matters. It’s the amount and timing of the decrease that produces economic growth. Harding/Coolidge, KENNEDY and Reagan understood it.:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Reports/2004/06/The-Laffer-Curve-Past-Present-and-Future

Right.  His taxes go up a few percent, which he can’t afford, so he quits working and forgoes 100 percent of his income. That is the logic of our genius Galtian overlords?  No wonder our economy is in the shits.  

Maybe this will help: When are you going to stop molesting your horsies?

You get the idea now?

That’s funny.

Does ANY lib have the courage to answer the question?  The Royal Dimwit clearly does not.

Hey, what about your roads, bridges, people to pick up the wine bottles and heroine needles off the Jersey Shore after your big night with some sub-genius Kardashian wannabe? How about the school you went to for a couple of years?  How about the guy who  inspects the food you eat, and makes sure that when you pump a gallon of gas into your car, it’s actually a gallon?  The problem with conservajerks is that they want everything for nothing.   

You still will not answer the question. How much is enough? How much is fair?

It’s not that I want the workers to pay more Darla, I want all the BS class warfare to stop…  We are in this together and this president because of his incompetence has no other answer than to pit us as  a people against each other.  He offers little in way of a plan forward. 

And yes Darla we are in this together…  it will take all of us to get out of this mess…  I see the need for restructuring the tax system, and I see the need for getting rid of many components of the system that are unfair and used by the few…  but this president will not truly address the flaws of the system, only a few very publicized components of a very broken system…  

Can you say “Victory Garden” Darla?  Ask your grandparents about the sacrifices they made to help their country…  and no, such sacrifice was not asked of any one class of people but of the American people.

OMG , if it was only this easy to get rid of these Hate radio & TV loonies !!!   You go Obama, raise all of their taxes !    Time the pigs paid their fair share.

Wow! This is a GREAT day, if this is the ONLY WAY to get O’Reilly OFF the air. GREAT DAY!

And remember, folks, the USA is still like 30th in the world for applying taxes!!     Remember when Clinton raised taxes—and we had the Best Economy in Decades?   The largest number of Jobs created, a housing bubble, our financial packages more than offset the additional tax.     Life in the USA was a great place to be.     And then along came Bush and his destruction.    Put 2 and 2 together—Democrats create a good economy, Republicans tear it down.

Pam,
 Is it “fair”, that some American’s pay NO income taxes?

Devastating.

Somebody has to clean up their feces, urine and litter off the sidewalk, right?

Roads & bridges: Tolls should pay for them (people who use them most should pay the most).
Beach cleaning: Beach access fees should pay for it (people who use it should pay for it)
Schools: Abolish the department of Education. They are useless (http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/jborowski/abolishing-the-department-of-education-is-the-righ)
I agree we need the FDA and many other things but they could be smaller and much more efficient.

This everything or nothing argument is weak.

I suppose you’ll have to define “fair share” Michelle-in-Utah. I don’t trust your charity of heart nor your integrity of mind to leave that to chance.

sock alert

You can thank me later. 

Must be a busy day at the office, TruDat.  How difficult is it to hold a mop and post on Mediaite?  Must be an app for that.

This is a ridiculous argument.  I have worked my tail off in my career, yet I’ll probably never make millions.  I’m sick of people implying that they work so hard that they deserve their millions.  Yes, they deserve millions if they bring in millions to the company they work for, but people down on the totem pole work every bit as hard.

This is the same kind of argument Fox pundits and guests have made against teachers.  They claim that teachers don’t work as hard as Wall Street bankers because they only work 9 months out of the year.  First, this is not necessarily true…..some, if not many, teachers work extra hours in the summer teaching summer school.

But, if you use the line of reasoning that working hard is what gets you millions, then that implies teachers should get millons.

so you want the working class to pay more

i got it

brilliant economic policy:  take more from those who are buying stuff, so they
buy even less stuff (which should REALLY help the economy, lol)

i pay about 36% of an already very low salary

You must have majored in Smarts.

how much do you make, good Lt?

Still diverting.  You scream for fairness.  Is it or is it now “fair” that some people pay NO income taxes?

and ps, Don’t worry about my charity of heart.  As study after study shows, we Conservatives are more generous with out OWN money than you libs.  We don’t have to be forced to give, like you libs do. 

reagan’s estate tax was HIGHER than 55%.  it was 60%.

I’ll Terrorist Fist Jab to that!

investing in china and the chinese

Are those conversations that you have with yourself in your head interesting?

ROFL!

I’ll bet the millions of jobless and homeless are breathing a “sigh” of relief knowing the markets “up.” Gawd, you’re a pathetic partisan poor excuse for a hack.

Now you’re talking.  It’s like you have a mainline right into the DNC! 

how about clinton’s tax rates?  

oh, right.  the 90s were oh so terrible…….lol

Speaking from experience?

Americans who pay no income taxes have incomes below the level that we as a country have decided is too low to expect them to pay income tax.  They pay sales taxes,  Social Security, Medicare taxes, etc., just not income taxes.  I would much rather pay income taxes than live below the poverty level.  This is a false argument that you are making.

Yes, I have heard that Robert’s toilet bowl is quite nice…  So nice in fact that it doubles for his Punchbowl on the weekends. 

whoa, the socks are a flyin, now…

No it’s not.  I’m one of those people, and I’m intellectually honest enough to admit it’s not fair. 

ps, I notice you didn’t answer if it’s “fair” or not. 

Yeah, you guys tithe to your churches because your bishops counsel you if you don’t.  That’s called giving from the heart.  Did it ever occur to you that libs don’t necessarily take the tax deduction for donations?  I know I don’t, and I give freely to many causes.  That is the only means the number crunchers have to track donations.  Your view is skewed.

You’re asking the wrong person JerseyShore. She hasn’t answered a question in over two months.

At one time, the highest federal tax rates were over 90%.  That time was during WWII and after, for years.  Our country prospered after WWII; people still became wealthy.

If one talks about only cutting spending to help reduce our budget deficit, then that means the only places that will make significant differences are in Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, and the military.  Conservatives won’t want the military to be cut, so the only place they want cuts are in areas that will hurt seniors and the sick.

People have put money into these systems their entire lives.  The Paul Ryan plan calls for such cuts to be made only for those under 55, but what about those under 55 who currently are unemployed, and unemployed for a long time?    Say someone is 50 years old and has been working, paying Social Security, for 30 years.  Then this person is laid off and can’t find work.  You mean to tell me that he should have his Social Security cut by the time he “retires?”    If such a person does actually land a job, how is he going to save for retirement, particularly if the only job he can find is flipping burgers for minimum wage (and republicans even want to cut minimum wage).

And unemployment is still above 9%.

You make a good point Darla…  especially when considering the mood that the president has stirred up among you and your friends….

Sure, it’s fair.  They pay other taxes, state, local, property, sales, excise, sin, personal property, which are typically much more regressive in nature.  It was fair when Republicans supported the EITC and its fair now.

Now that I’ve answered your question, will you go away?  If you won’t (I’m guessing you won’t…you don’t have anything else to do), then will you answer me this question:

Should those people (ie, poor, old people, etc.) that pay no FEDERAL income taxes be asked to pay something – ie, a TAX INCREASE?  If so, wouldn’t you agree that you are not the party of No New Taxes or Taxed Enough Already, but rather the party that wants to shift more of the FEDERAL tax burden to the poor and raise taxes on old people, the poor, the disabled, veterans, etc.?

Let’s face it Michelle, you ran up deficits when GWB (Med. part D, wars, tax cuts, etc., enormously massive recession) was in office and now – to borrow a phrase from you favorite pastor – the Chickens Have Come Home to Roost.  Responsibility sucks, Michelle, I know.  But here we are.

Well, Michelle, it’s been fun.  I hope you learned something (wouldn’t that be a first!).  Now, I’m sure Levin’s show is about to come on, so get your checkbook ready in case he has any great deals on precious metals that he wants to offer you.

Yeah Rose, I’m SURE most libs are giving to charity and NOT taking the tax deduction.  Thanks for my first LOL of the day!

The reason the racism seems so obvious to us is that you all extremely exaggerate the president’s positions and act like the money truck is backing up to your door to steal your hard-earned wealth and give it to those lazy folk who just won’t work.  I don’t care if you are racist or not.  My point is that when Pres. Obama says we need to spread the wealth around a bit, he is saying that it is obscene that in a country as rich as ours, children go to bed hungry, live in cars or motel rooms, and have 2 parents working for minimum wage without benefits (if they’re both lucky enough to have jobs).  Most employers paying minimum wage keep your hours at less than 40 per week to avoid having to pay any type of benefits.  As a society, we need to say it isn’t okay to impoverish other people to feather your own nest more fully.

Hi Michelle! 

What do you know, Darladoon knows how to copy and paste!

No, it’s just like when Carter was president.  As soon as he was out, the Iranians released the hostages and changed the mood of the country.  There is a lot of back-door dealing going on to keep this economy in distress.  The fat cats are willing to ride out 4 years of recession to get their buddies back in office.

50K or so per hour? What are you smoking, Valkyrie?

He would quit in order not to have to pay his wife half of what he owns.  Then he would blame it on the tax increase.  He is a person without integrity.

WTF?

$3 in tax hikes for every $1 in spending cuts
September 19th, 2011
By Stephen Dinan – The Washington Times

** FILE ** President Obama delivers a speech to a joint session of Congress at the Capitol in Washington on Thursday, Sept. 8, 2011. (AP Photo/Kevin Lamarque, Pool)
President Obama
on Monday will propose a deficit plan that calls for about three
dollars in new tax increases for every dollar in additional spending
cuts as he seeks to put his imprint on the ongoing talks over reducing
the government’s staggering debt burden.

In a plan his advisors described as his ideological vision, rather than a compromise offer to the GOP, Mr. Obama will also threaten to veto any plan Congress
sends him that tackles entitlements but doesn’t include tax
increases, which he will argue is central to a “balanced” approach.

“The president will make clear he’s not going to support any plan
that asks everything of some Americans, nothing of others,” said an
administration official, who briefed reporters Sunday night in advance
of a speech Mr. Obama is scheduled to give Monday. “He will veto any bill that takes one dime from the Medicare benefits seniors rely on without asking the wealthiest Americans and biggest corporations to pay their share.”

Mr. Obama
will argue his plan totals $4.4 trillion in deficit reduction, though
$1.1 trillion of that comes from war savings all sides agree was
going to happen anyway, another $1.2 trillion that has already been
enacted, and more than $450 billion in tax increases he proposed last
week — and has already accounted for in new spending. Another $430
billion comes from lower interest payments because of the potential
lower debt.

That means in terms of actual new proposals, the president’s plan
totals about $1.2 trillion, of which the lion’s share comes from his
long-standing vow to raise taxes back to Clinton-era rates on the top
income brackets. The rest is $580 billion in reductions to
formula-driven entitlement programs, though officials on Sunday
wouldn’t detail what those cuts were, saying the specifics would be
released Monday.

Those $580 billion in newly proposed cuts are dwarfed nearly
three-to-one by the $1.5 trillion in additional taxes the president
wants to see.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/3-in-tax-hikes-for-every-1-in-spending-cuts/
the full link after .com includes /3-in-tax-hikes-for-every-1-in-spending-cuts/ which I noticed Royal seems to have cut off the link which would change the page one would land on.

Michelle was correct in her post.

Irony alert!

Good thing banks, corporations and wall st are doing so well, otherwise Obama wouldn’t be able to hold all those $35,000.00/plate fundraisers.

You’re comparing apples and oranges.  Since W. Buff gets the majority of his income from dividends, he is taxed at the capital gains rate, which is 15%.  That is lower than most secretaries are paying, I can assure you.  The wealthiest people in America who are receiving their wealth solely in wages is a very small segment of the population.  Exclude the sale of your primary home from capital gains, and tax all other investment income at the normal tax rates.

And climbing…

My how clever you are.

Thanks, Mrs. Philby!

Except for the fact that she is completely correct in what she says…  

Dividends are paid on corporate profits which are first taxed at the 35% corporate rate…  The whole point of Dividends being taxed at 15% is to avoid an overly burdensome double taxation since the same corporate profits that pay the dividend have already been taxed by the government.  

Darlaloon:  “i pay about 36% of an already very low salary”

So pay more.

Hey, all you “the rich don’t pay their fair share” liberals out there: Check out these statistics:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/ff135data–all%20charts.swf

If you have trouble navigating through this, pay particular attention to the fifth table titled: Total Income Tax Shares, 1980-2006 (Percent of federal income tax paid by each group).

Hi Phony King!

For everything over the first 5 million.  If it passes to his spouse, no tax at all.

I like the ones who think they pay the same rate on every dollar of their income.  The system is progressive.  The more dollars you make, the higher taxes you pay on just those dollars over the bracket below.

I like the ones who think they pay the same rate on every dollar of their income.  The system is progressive.  The more dollars you make, the higher taxes you pay on just those dollars over the bracket below.

You THINK everyone making these claims are libbies, but that is not necessarily the case. Many independents and conservatives make the same claims, they’re just not allowed to shout on TV.

Well, I believe it is implied in my answer, but if you need it spelled out, YES, I think that’s F-A-I-R.

Michelle, 0 income tax is their “fair” share.  Can’t pay something you don’t have.  Tax their money and you will have more people getting food stamps, welfare.  Which would you like your taxes to pay for?

STILL peddling that talking point, Michelle? Haven’t we already shown you that – in the end – that statistic is completely disingenuous? You realize they still have to pay for Social Security, the payroll tax, the sales tax, the use tax, the property tax, the excise tax, etc, etc…

Answer me this, though, what would you do? Tax the poorest Americans even more because they’re getting a “free ride”? Oh god, wouldn’t it be great to be poor? No income tax! Awesome! They must be living the dream.

Some of us give without being forced to by Big Bro.  Join us!!

If you think we are going to sit back and let you libs succeed in changing this great country into your Socialist utopia, just because you call us racist, you are sadly mistaken. 

Poor Barry- the AP wrote a story today showing what a liar barry was on  taxes.

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-rich-taxed-less-secretaries-070642868.html

”
“On average, the wealthiest people in America pay a lot more taxes than the middle class or the poor, according to private and government data. They pay at a higher rate, and as a group, they contribute a much larger share of the overall taxes collected by the federal government.

The 10 percent of households with the highest incomes pay more than half of all federal taxes. They pay more than 70 percent of federal income taxes, according to the Congressional Budget Office.”

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner was pressed at a White House briefing on the number of millionaires who pay taxes at a lower rate than middle-income families. He demurred, saying that people who make most of their money in wages pay taxes at a higher rate, while those who get most of their income from investments pay at lower rates.

“So it really depends on what is your profession, where’s the source of your income, what’s the specific circumstances you face, and the averages won’t really capture that,” Geithner said.

barry, stop lying to America , you invertebrate lib!

Poor Barry- the AP wrote a story today showing what a liar barry was on  taxes.

http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-rich-taxed-less-secretaries-070642868.html

”
“On average, the wealthiest people in America pay a lot more taxes than the middle class or the poor, according to private and government data. They pay at a higher rate, and as a group, they contribute a much larger share of the overall taxes collected by the federal government.

The 10 percent of households with the highest incomes pay more than half of all federal taxes. They pay more than 70 percent of federal income taxes, according to the Congressional Budget Office.”

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner was pressed at a White House briefing on the number of millionaires who pay taxes at a lower rate than middle-income families. He demurred, saying that people who make most of their money in wages pay taxes at a higher rate, while those who get most of their income from investments pay at lower rates.

“So it really depends on what is your profession, where’s the source of your income, what’s the specific circumstances you face, and the averages won’t really capture that,” Geithner said.

barry, stop lying to America , you invertebrate lib!

Get a grip!  Three people answered your question about the poor paying more income tax and your mouth just kept on going.  As a matter of fact I donate money and don’t take the deduction because I file the EZ form and there is no way to claim a deduction for donations.

Get a grip!  Three people answered your question about the poor paying more income tax and your mouth just kept on going.  As a matter of fact I donate money and don’t take the deduction because I file the EZ form and there is no way to claim a deduction for donations.

So, they create the items and have no consumers. What then?

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

I am confused.  Aren’t rich people workers also?   I mean they put in many hours in a day to make their money, they have to think through and persevere and not give up when the times get tough, they have to get up earlier and outsmart the competition or they like all workers could lose their positions. 

I always thought as Americans we personally helped those not doing as good as us and admired those doing better. So that the respect we show both may be shown to us if Life leads us down or up the economic latter.

It is vital we do it personally … so we may see and feel how we are a contributor. This is great for our self-image. Plus it puts a human face to the help received. The government is faceless, soulless and lets be honest — not honest.  You give them $100 to help the needy … who knows what % of that money goes to the needy.

I am sad .. the we are all fighting toward the same goal … but are reaping each other apart in the processes because the mouth pieces ( politicians ) are pitting us against each other.  I am sad at this.

Oh, conservatives, you’re so classy. Keep up the good work. Those damn, dirty welfare queens deserve it, right?

So that is your answer.  It must be true information as you have no different opinion to post.

Hi Texan! =)

Thanks for capitalizing Socialist, we do have copyrights on that.

How much is Socialism (TM)?

Why are you entitled to someone elses money?

Yes, as soon as Obama leaves office.

Bye-bye, Bill, and good riddance.  From a former Factor viewer.  You’ve turned into the typical lame-stream media commentator.

No, first he pays 35% on the income, THEN another 15% on the capital gains.  This lie isn’t flying anymore.

What’s obscene is that “ children go to bed hungry, live in cars or motel rooms, and have 2 parents working for minimum wage without benefits (if they’re both lucky enough to have jobs). and Obama spends hundreds of millions of dollars a year (tax payers money) as he flits around the country  campaigning and asking $35,000 per  person to shake his hand.  

Giving 3 billion dollars to a Brazilian oil company while shutting down our own oil jobs.  How many blankets and ham sandwiches would that buy for the hungry and homeless in this country?  (At least 13,000 jobs have been lost since last summer’s moratorium on offshore
oil production,)

You should save your indignation for those who waste money on wasteful programs such as investigating why Prostitutes in China do what they do. (The National Institute of Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAA), a part of the
National Institutes of Health (NIH), will pay $2.6 million in U.S. tax dollars
to train Chinese prostitutes to drink responsibly on the job.)   Why monkeys get high on cocaine?Why there is 120 billion dollars a year wasted on duplicate programs in this country. (CBO report March 2011).

Hey Rose, as Michael Moore said, “There’s plenty of money in this country”, please write to Obama and tell him how disappointed you are in him for his wasteful spending policies, children go hungry, live in cars or motel rooms,…….

Spare me the leftist rhetoric unless you are willing to do what needs to be done to see that the money the Government already has is spent responsibly on our own citizens.

“TMP”

Hi Texan!  My, you Texans sure are nice.  We could sure use one of you God-Fearing-Dummies in the WH come 2013.  Does God talk to all Texans or just the politicians? 

Well Barry is the  Welfare President so he should love that!

Well Barry is the  Welfare President so he should love that!

Well Barry is the  Welfare President so he should love that!

Clinton era tax rates should not be controversial. Bush era tax rates didn’t produce the “job creation engine” advertised. Clinton era (higher) rates not only didn’t produce the “depression” predicted by right wing hacks, it produced the “job creation engine” Bush tax cuts promised but didn’t deliver. It couldn’t be any simpler. Oh wait! I forgot! Clinton “lucked out” with a “tech boom.” But that shouldn’t have happened according to conservative economic theory! Higher tax rates should have “tamped down” innovation (etc.–add your own easily refutable right wing talking points), but lo and behold, despite the higher rates we had tremendous innovation and entrepreneurial greatness. And now to cause right wing heads to explode, let’s look at what caused that “tech boom”: why it was the maturation of “the Internets” that Al Gore never said he created but said he “encouraged” while in the Senate, which he did. In fact the Internet, which was created to a great degree as a result of government investment, proves (as if the Hoover Dam and the Interstate Highway System wasn’t sufficient) that the conservative mantra “government doesn’t create wealth, it only spends it” is complete B.S.

The liberal definition of :”fair” is amusing.

If Bill O’Reilly quits, someone else will slide into his spot before you can say “free enterprise.” It seems to me that the opportunity to be rich is worth the inconvenience of paying higher taxes. I’ll bet any of those “lucky duckies” who don’t earn enough money to pay income tax would be delighted to pay somewhat higher taxes if they could earn enough money to have to do so. It is ridiculous to suggest that multi-millionaires are suffering because they have to pay taxes, as though “poor” people are so much better off than they are. There’s an easy solution: “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

On that basis, why should there be taxes at all? Would you suggest we eliminate all taxes? After all “taxation is theft,” right?

On that basis, why should there be taxes at all? Would you suggest we eliminate all taxes? After all “taxation is theft,” right?

Far too many numbers on your link for me to distill, so just tell me this: 

Is Obama a Socialist/Anti-Imperialist/Fascist/Communist/Muslim or is George W Bush the Greatest President Since Jesus?

Let’s try and keep things simple here for the simpletons.

I have heard some Epic Takedowns in my day, but an “invertebrate lib”?  Bravo, sir.  Bravo.

You mean no Federal Income tax. Some states don’t have a state income tax. Keep trying Michelle. you little minx.

Take your facts, logic, and reasoning and leave.  Michelle and the Good Lt. will have NONE of it.

so to make your point you need to get nasty?

Well, if that is Michelle-in-Utah’s point, presuming she has one, then she is greatly conflicted. She keeps bleating about the poor not paying taxes when, in fact, they pay all manner of sales taxes, property taxes, directly or indirectly, car registration and other vehicle and personal property taxes and the like. Michelle-in-Utah is simply doing what she always does: repeating what some man told her without understanding it or even stopping to think about it.

Wrong. See this link which I posted earlier: http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/ff135data–all%20charts.swf.

lol…if O’Reilly quits Fox will put on a different show with another production company and we will not be out any jobs just one asshole.

Of course if O’Reilly stops selling Factor Gear some Dominican Republicans, El Salvadorians, Haitians, Hondurans, Mexicans and Nicaraguans might be out of work. :)

No I don’t advocate that.  That doesn’t explain why you libs think we should take money from the rich and redistribute it to the everyone else.  I’m fine with paying taxes, but they shouldn’t be used in an effort to level the playing field.  That is Socialism and NOT what this country was founded on. 

Sandie the Nitwit says:

$3 in tax hikes for every $1 in spending cuts
September 19th, 2011
By Stephen Dinan – The Washington Times

**
FILE ** President Obama delivers a speech to a joint session of
Congress at the Capitol in Washington on Thursday, Sept. 8, 2011. (AP
Photo/Kevin Lamarque, Pool)
President Obama
on Monday will propose a deficit plan that calls for about three
dollars in new tax increases for every dollar in additional spending
cuts as he seeks to put his imprint on the ongoing talks over reducing
the government’s staggering debt burden.

In
a plan his advisors described as his ideological vision, rather than a
compromise offer to the GOP, Mr. Obama will also threaten to veto any
plan Congress
sends him that tackles entitlements but doesn’t include tax
increases, which he will argue is central to a “balanced” approach.

“The president will make clear he’s not going to support any plan
that asks everything of some Americans, nothing of others,” said an
administration official, who briefed reporters Sunday night in advance

of a speech Mr. Obama is scheduled to give Monday. “He will veto any
bill that takes one dime from the Medicare benefits seniors rely on
without asking the wealthiest Americans and biggest corporations to pay
their share.”

Mr. Obama
will argue his plan totals $4.4 trillion in deficit reduction, though
$1.1 trillion of that comes from war savings all sides agree was
going to happen anyway, another $1.2 trillion that has already been
enacted, and more than $450 billion in tax increases he proposed last
week — and has already accounted for in new spending. Another $430
billion comes from lower interest payments because of the potential
lower debt.

That means in terms of actual new proposals, the president’s plan
totals about $1.2 trillion, of which the lion’s share comes from his
long-standing vow to raise taxes back to Clinton-era rates on the top
income brackets. The rest is $580 billion in reductions to
formula-driven entitlement programs, though officials on Sunday
wouldn’t detail what those cuts were, saying the specifics would be
released Monday.

Those $580 billion in newly proposed cuts are dwarfed nearly
three-to-one by the $1.5 trillion in additional taxes the president
wants to see.

http://investmentwatchblog.com...
the
full link after .com includes
/3-in-tax-hikes-for-every-1-in-spending-cuts/ which I noticed Royal
seems to have cut off the link which would change the page one would
land on.

Michelle was correct in her post. 

To Which the Real Royal Emperor responds:

Shouldn’t the future tense have clued you in to something?… will propose ……. will threaten ……. will make clear ……. will argue …. If not, did you completely gloss over ” … in advance of a speech”?The article was written ***BEFORE*** the speech, and it has no correlation to the speech itself.

You poor thing.Michelle-in-Utah was wrong, WRONG, W R O N G.

You are wronger, WRONGER, W R O N G E R.

BTW: Disqus abbreviates the links in the text. It leads you to the same article.

If anyone can stay on the level of a simpleton, you’re the guy for the job.

OK, I’ll try and keep things simple for you. Go to the table I referred to, “Total Income Tax Shares, 1980-2006 (Percent of federal income tax paid by each group)”, and look at the last line, which contains the figures for 2006. You’ll see that the top 1% paid 39.89% of the total taxes paid that year.

Bill the blowhard ..O Reilly is especially dangerous because unlike the firebrands like Hannity and Limbaugh and Beck..he packages his right wing crap in a nice pleasant reasonable sounding package..same poison.,.different bottle!

Especially in Tollbooth Terry’s Texas. We lost 1,200 jobs in August.

We’re not mistaken. We fully understand you are proud of being a racist. Most racists are proud of being racist.

At the very first COMINTERN meeting after President Obama is reelected, I am going to propose that Michelle-in-Utah be sent to a Reeducation Camp in Vermont. For her own good.

No. Under Reagen, they went from 70% to 55%.
http://www.heritage.org/static/reportimages/DE7F87A5C7FF15EA8B10001E4F5AC874.gif?w=365&h=317&as=1

Nitwit Real Royal PITA Emperor:
You claimed that the link Michelle gave was about, to quote you,
 ”Michelle-in-Utah, once again you posted an article you didn’t read. It’s
the story of Mexican nationals crossing the border and occupying
ranches all over again. That was a fabrication, and you embarrassed
yourself greatly over it. ” So, Nitwit PITA Emperor who can’t read? YOU.
And I repeat, her post was correct. It was about what I c/p for the idiots who can’t seem to follow a simple link and not change it to belittle someone who they disagree with in order to make themselves appear to be superior as you attempted. The link she gave backed up what she said. It was written about what his plan is, regardless of when the speech would be given. His plan hasn’t changed. Read it again.

check out link to Obama tax plan
http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-obama-tax-plan-is-barack-obama-plotting-to-use-class-warfare-as-a-tool-to-win-the-2012-election/
it includes the piece /the-obama-tax-plan-is-barack-obama-plotting-to-use-class-warfare-as-a-tool-to-win-the-2012-election/ after .com

It’s amazing that you TeaBagger Death Cult members argue the rich paying higher taxes with the poor don’t pay enough.

You Clowns HAVE to be paid bloggers with this Comedy.

TeaBagger Death Cult members really do suck Bawlz!!!!!

HAHAAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

See, I knew the “fairness” term was a clumsy trap you set.

The income tax is progressive, Michelle-in-Utah, by design. The sales taxis regressive, Michelle-in-Utah, by design. Within a range, Michelle-in-Utah, one person’s necessities are roughly equal to any other person’s necessities. The progressive nature of the income allows that the poorest need not starve, need not go without shelter, need not go naked, need to be prohibited from sending their children to school, need not go without basic medical care. The regressive nature of the sales tax, hitting the poorest disproportionately hardest (since virtually all of their income goes to necessities alone), has the effect of making the progressive income tax even more progressive. It is a very, very simple concept, one which I am sure even you can understand. You simply wish to punish the poor, to make them dependent on your  meager charity always dispensed with your condescension and your arrogance.You’re not making an economic argument or even a taxation argument. You’re simply trying to feed your dark, dark soul.

That is your answer, full, complete, candid, in the simplest English I can muster. Do with it what you may.

BS, Michelle-in-Utah, I call: “BS!”.

Mark, Jeff is not a Texan. Jerry Brown is his governor. He’s just a fraud. For a time he posted as American Cowboy, and he threatened President Obama. He disappeared for several months after that.

 I, by contrast, am a Texan. A native. People’s Republic of Austin.

Bill-o has as much intention of quitting as O’Hannity did of being water-boarded.

Woof!!

Bring it on Bill-O… yesterday, Bill said he’s almost as powerful as the President, now he’s threatening to end his show and his $10 million a year salary… I think Bill-O is having a meltdown since he found out his wife was having an affair!!

“Rich people,” the ones Obama wishes to raise taxes on, about 425,000 of them, cannot possibly consume the quantity of goods and services that would allow the so called trickle down effect to work.  And not every one in America works for a rich person, most of us work for someone who employs 25 persons or less.  Very few of these true “small business” owners are the so called rich.

Sandi, you are dismissed.

There is no hope for you.

Do not trouble yourself about returning.

Fix yourself a nice glass of Ovaltine, and have a “Everybody Loves Raymond” marathon.

It is the best you can expect.

Man, I’d at least like to be the guy in her video.

The implication that the  federal tax rate would be 50% is ridiculous.  If you believe that exaggeration then  you’re likely a baboon and will never have the chance to work your way to that tax bracket anyway.   

He makes about 20 million a year at FOX. His show is 40 minutes long. 250 shows per year. Thats about 170 hours of on air work per year. Half of 20 million is 10 million. That’s a little more than 50K per hour.  

After having knocked on over a thousand doors campaigning for Obama during the ’08 election, I can assure you, they’re neither cartoons or caricatures.  The picture Glutton paints is far more accurate than you realize, at least it is here in the south.  I would add to the picture a second car, usually up on blocks.  Today these same homes are flying the tea-party flag proudly.

After having knocked on over a thousand doors campaigning for Obama during the ’08 election, I can assure you, they’re neither cartoons or caricatures.  The picture Glutton paints is far more accurate than you realize, at least it is here in the south.  I would add to the picture a second car, usually up on blocks.  Today these same homes are flying the tea-party flag proudly.

If it will make Bill O’Reilly go away, then raise the taxzes

If it makes Bill O’reilly go away, then raise the taxes!

Please, Mr. President, raise the taxes on the wealthy and we could get at least one wind bag off the air. Except O’Reilly would never live up to what he said he would do. Too bad old Rush didn’t say it. He is even more offensive than O’Reilly.

And O’dude still can’t make a woman happy.  She kept telling BillO’ she was “off to the policeman’s balls.”

Royal PITA Emperor:
You have no cogent response so you attempt to belittle.  It is an old tactic.
You should have followed the link properly and not tried to attack.
You are dismissive and dismissed yourself.
Have your mommy help you fix some Ovaltine as that is probably beyond your abilities judging from your posts and inability to follow a link or read and comprehend….. then sit in your chair nicely and hold onto your Mr Sippy Tippy Cup so you don’t drop it on the floor again. When you master that maybe you can try the internet again.

All of them, he’s “The Commander in Chief.”

“another 15% on the capital gains”? Uh, no. Long-term capital gains tax *IS* 15% (at most), and that’s it. It doesn’t sit ATOP income tax like a surtax. It’s not double-taxed. So, what lie isn’t flying…?

source: http://www.kiplinger.com/features/archives/2008/11/tax-planning-tax-law-changes4.html?kipad_id=44

Because all the abortion clinics are too busy with girls who’ve been taught the abstinence only lesson in republican led states.

This conversation is getting boring. How about this?!:

Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida is the subject of a new ethics complaint filed in the Office of Congressional Ethics http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/19/republican-legal-group-files-ethics-complaint-against-debbie-wasserman-schultz/#ixzz1YWcpISJR

None of “the rich” pay 35% on their incomes.  They employ a myriad of deductions and loopholes that allow them to pay on average an adjusted rate of just 17% overall.  The secretary on the other hand does not have the same loopholes available to her and pays an average 23% of her meager wages in taxes. 
Question:  Do you take more home if you pay 17% or 23% in taxes?  And if you raise the millionaires taxes to 23%, as the secretary pays, will he then have to eat beanie weenies for dinner?

OK, I guess I was the one smoking, since your math is pretty good there. But how do you know how much he makes?

O’Reilly can help in the sacrifice for our country.  I’m sure he will do just find with a little less.  

Please say it’s so!… I’ll also pay double mine if FOX News falls by the waste side.

Most people don’t have any idea how much taxes they actually pay. When you start adding up all the federal, state, payroll taxes, utilities taxes, grocery shopping, real estate, personal property and don’t forget the tax you pay when purchases are made with expendable income.Add all the etc.(s). I calculated this number on my last full working year before retiring. It came to over 55% in total when in fact I was in the 28% range on federal tax. We are being suckered.

Put it in writing loofa boy and you got yourself a deal

Didn’t Rush threatened to go to Panama if the health bill passed, but he’s still in Florida.  

Why does he say this? Is he kidding me? He’s going to quit because he will only make a crap load of money instead of a shit load of money? This makes no sense to me. Its like saying well gee im not going to work overtime because I don’t wanna be taxed extra on that. How in the hell did anyone make money when tax rates were higher? This is so stupid. I use to like Bill but he’s really jumped the shark. Does he really think anyone is going to feel sympathy for him and his cause? Well gee Bill maybe if Obama raises your tax rates 3 % all of Fox news will shut down lol. How does he think people make a living in Germany where personal income taxes are much higher? Do they just quit and say screw it? He’s really lost it.

BillO we hardly knew yer falafel.

I’ve asked you to proved your claims at least 100 and you haven’t been able to.  Put up or shut up, dimwit.

What are you calling BS on, Royal Dimwit?

ya right but it is OK that the middle class pays higher tax’s then the millionaires and billionaires and to get around paying not one dime they go shore so like all right  wingers they just love to protect these big corporations even though they are sticking it to you. wake up before you no longer have a job.
 O Reilly likes to brag about how many people count on him wrong bill. truth is you are banking on Rupert Murdock will not get rid of you. Rupert writes his check not the other way around but then again this is what fox’s is all about just make stuff up.

Know what happens when millionaires and billionaires take their money and retire. Simple, new people come in and replace them and the new people generate more wealth.

If the wealthy don’t want to contribute a fair society then we don’t want them in our society.

He’s still in Florida because of their lack of prescription drug laws!!

You mean those fatcats Obama hosted in NYC last night?

Listen doodle bug – Obama lumps millionaires with billionaires and you buy it.  A millionaire would have to work for 50,000 years to have as much as Buffett.  Now does that comparison make sense to you?

Use your head.  

Tax the freaking billionaires – don’t care.  They put their money in “foundations” and pay nadda.  That’s what they do and then because they are in the tank for Obama, they talk about how they pay less than their secretaries.

You guys buy that b.s. and it’s a lie – a freaking lie.  

just ask Jeffrey Immelt.  

Seriously dude – small businesses create the most jobs – The tax hike would hurt them the most.

They can’t buy anything without a job, can they?  Do they hire each other?

Drop the ultra rich b.s.  Obama  lies and the unthinking buy the lie.  It’s dumb and most people realize that.  You guys just lap it up and keep repeating it.  It wasn’t true the first time Obama said and it’s still not true.  The difference, even the left are starting to call him out on this stupid amateurish attempt to cause class warfare.  You bought the b.s. hook, line and sinker.  

Wishful thinking, Jon. He was referring to his side businesses. Most notably the gear he sells, which all goes to charity.

…and again you’ve been proven to have not a clue what you are talking about.  A “sustained period of economic growth”?  Do you even know what that means?

There is no economic growth – let alone sustained.  They are wringing their hands over a double dip recession and you’re bloviating about economic growth!  

lol  Only you would think that was a bright statement and 2 other ejets (one is darla I’m sure)

Come on Obama, get ‘er done!

perhaps you should revisit your numbers there bud.  I wouldn’t be jumping all over someone’s math when yours is out to lunch.  

p.s. (you even said “after tax money” – fool, it’s already been taxed once and then it is taxed again).

Do the math.

The difference between liberals and conservatives on this is how much one possesses or earns is irrelevant to conservatives. The fundamental argument is does the government have the right to confiscate 50% of what someone earns. I don’t really care how much you make, the government shouldn’t be able to take that much of anybody’s wealth. I’d be more in favor of a flat tax (make it progressive if you’d like) where everyone pays a set amount with no deductions or wealthy shelters or a flat consumption tax.

what about them?

p.s. you’re the guys wanting something for nothing. We think you should pay for it the same as we do. We also think that you and I are not entitled to Joe’s nest egg because he lived frugally and budgeted well. To you that means he should share – but you didn’t share your vacation with him when he stayed home cause he couldn’t afford to go did you?

You really can’t argue with a flaming lefty.  They immediately go off the deep end and claim you want to have no government, no program, no nothing.  They can’t argue like “normal” people like VV.  Makes a stupid statement and think he’s brilliant.

Now Obama HAS to raise Falafel O’Reilly’s taxes!

why would the middle class pay any more?  Is someone threatening to raise their taxes too?

Michelle, millionaires can afford to pay a liitle more.  Get off your knees and think for yourself you weakling!!!!!

You drank Obama’s cool aid and you have the nerve to tell someone else to think for themselves? lol

Only a fool would be dumb enough to point out the fact that he hasn’t had an original thought since toilet training and claim the other guy doesn’t think for himself.  lol

every time you type Michelle-in-Utah, I feel like reaching through my puter and smacking you upside your head.  Grow the hell up!  Just like Hannity’s “chosen one” comment – it’s stupid and the # of times you have to type it I hope the hell you get carpel tunnel.  You’d deserve it.  

A factor continually overlooked by journalists, economists and policy makers is that low tax rates on short term capital gains and derivatives, plus 1031 exchange that defers cap gains indefinitely on real estate gains – all of these have led to the rampant speculation that is ruining the financial markets and the US economy.Some of the lowest tax rates possible are on derivative income: options on broad based indices are only taxed at 10%. Think about that. THis is one of the most speculative trades that any portfolio can do yet it enjoys the lowest tax rate possible. Most futures are taxed at 15% – that is the same rate a $20,000 wage earner pays!! Most economists and even financial planners are unaware that the US financial markets are geared for speculators because of the US tax code.However, Hedgefunds know the game as do big real estate moguls. That’s why their effective tax rates are the lowest. Neither of these players are building the economy, or creating jobs – their role is purely short term speculation that bleeds the system to benefit a very, very few. The President should propose a capital gains and derivative tax policy that rewards the long term investor and penalizes the speculators: Capital gains under 1 year taxed at 80%; All derivative income and gains taxed at 80%; Eliminate the 1031 exchange for real estate and eliminate the preferential treatment of REITS and real estate partnerships.
 

If I told you I would blow my cover. Let’s just say it is from “reliable sources”.

Yes it is because it is not fair. What about just taxing everyone the same. Totally un-American to treat any group different than another group. What some of the rich get away with is not accomplished through not taxing them. It is exemptions and tax breaks that we need to stop. Enact the flat tax with no exemptions and we will be a rich country with everyone being treated the same. Or get rid of the IRS and enact a fair tax.
  

Here is the falacy in what you say, Michelle: After tax, the rich are earning a bigger share of our GNP than most of the population put together. And the disparity between rich and poor is getting bigger with a smaller and smaller percentage of rich people owning a bigger and bigger piece of the overall pie.   http://www.mogulite.com/wealth-gain/  

Not so sure that I agree with 80% but I like your premise. 

Of course they can afford it, but it’s THEIR money.  You don’t have a right to it.  My side are the only ones thinking for ourselves. 

Some do absolutely, not all. Are you saying 100% of those on welfare and disability are completely unable to help themselves?

It must be nice that the rich can afford to threaten to quit working.

The poor/middle class don’t have that fucking option.

The middle class does NOT pay higher taxes!!  Man you libs are really learning impaired.  People aren’t buying the lie anymore.

Please raise the taxes, so we can be rid of this giant phony. 

So we should take their money and redistribute it to make it even?  I don’t think that’s what people want.  I think it’s sad that you libs think you are entitled to someone elses earnings. 

Right they should pay at least the SAME not less.

Tow the company line

I rather like it

If he makes 100 million a year it is HIS to do with as he so sees fit. He does give a lot to charity and that is good for many, many people.

…and I’m so not surprised.

Sounds great. Where do I sign up? Maybe BillO will head back to Inside Edition where he belongs.

In the beginning of his segment he blamed Obama for equating income tax with capital gains taxes, but at the end of the segment he did the same thing.

What a wanker!

Maybe if they weren’t ignorant vulgar people they could earn a decent living.

“TMP”

Stay ignorant, you’re good at it.

“TMP”

‘Unfortunately’ Bill played you…not going to happen!

I watched the whole segment last night, and I did not interpret it at all the same way. He was talking forcefully that he wouldn’t invest money if the capital gains tax went too high, inferring that’s why it’s a bad idea because many people who invest think like him. I also think he was referring to his side businesses of employing people. He doesn’t employ anyone at FOX. He and everyone who works on his show, works for FOX, not him. This article is much adieu about nothing.

Welcome to reality, my liberal friends. 

In the real world, people respond to high taxes with a host of responses.  Look at Glenn Beck moving to Texas — that will probably save him a million a year.  Look at how many people have moved to states with low or no state taxes in recent years.  Look at people’s timing of capital gains when the tax rates increase. Etc. etc.

And this is all perfectly legal.  Even more, it’s perfectly rational.   Bill O’Reilly is simply demonstrating the reality that higher tax rates reduce the marginal return of additional work.  Many people decide, on the margin, to pass on a specific income opportunity as the after tax value to them declines.  And for O’Reilly, the government wants more than half of each incremental dollar he makes.  So he has every right to cut back on work when it gets to the point that the State benefits more than he does.

That’s a basic truth of economics, unchanged by liberal rants or political correctness.

Bring it on asshole.  Show me you numbers, not Wiki’s or Fox News numbers.  

You’re a fucking moron.  You quote an article that EXPLICITLY states that self-employed individuals pay the SAME RATE as employees.  They don’t pay 15.3%, never have and never will.  

Why would anybody join the military–SACRIFICE their life for anything?

The Right loves the military; all those suckers GIVING for their country so the rich can give NOTHING.

This country needs everybody, rich AND poor, and sacrifice from all.

If paying taxes isn’t patriotic (Palin’s words), why is serving in the military? Everybody should stop signing up for the military cuz some GIVING their lives for others is ‘class warfare.’

1. Where is Bill O getting the 50%+ number?
2. Even if that was the case, that doesn’t mean his ENTIRE salary would be taxed at 50%. Only the portion above a million dollars would be taxed at that rate. (please wiki: graduated income tax)
3. Bill O can whine all he wants, but people like him didn’t flee the country when that evil, socialist, commie, marxist Dwight Eisenhower taxed the top rate at NINETY FREAKIN PERCENT! (seriously, take a minute to let that sink in. That we had such an immense tax rate under a freakin REPUBLICAN president!).
4. History has shown that the economy has done better under higher tax rates on the rich. Bush lowered taxes for the rich and we’ve had the worst economic growth since the great depression.
5. Bill O’reilly’s hero, Ronald Reagan’s top tax rate for 6 out of 8 years was (gasp) 50%! Conservatives seem to love talking about how successful Lord Reagan’s years were, so surely they shouldn’t mind that we should go back to the Reagan tax rates (even though Obama’s proposed nothing like that).
6. And also too, even under the 90% tax rates under Eisenhower, we STILL had better economic growth than under Bush’s policies.

show me “you” numbers?  lol

You don’t seem to like any #’s except the wrong ones.  Live with it.  

Hey Billo..go ahead…I dare ya..piece of garbage, phony hack…go ahead retire..who gives a s–t? One less piece of pollution on the airwaves!!!  See ya…wouldn’t want to be ya… you won’t be missed…

Aw he ain’t leaving , plus what would Fox replace him with ? ” The EIght” ? 

Obama pals around with fatcats? So he’s not a socialist anymore?

Good for you, Mr. Typo King.   Now GFYMITA.  

Military SACRIFICE their lives for the nation.

Some in this country won’t sacrifice another dime for the nation. Reminds me of Cheney’s five deferments from Vietnam: “I love the military, but are you kidding me–I ain’t no sucka!”  –Dick Cheney

Soldiers give EVERYTHING; rich give what THEY want, nothing more.

Vulgar?  Are you the same sothere that wrote elsewhere:
 
“It’s the dribble that comes from between your legs in small droplets that dampens your undies after going to the toilet.”
 
and
 
“Have you been looking at my penis again?  Do you have penis envy?”
 
Vile.  Hypocrite.

They won’t lose their jobs! They will just work for the next person to replace him. If Bill thinks he is an unreplaceable asset he is grossly wrong! Loud mouth insulting individuals are a dime a dozen these days. Reading these posts lately should be evidence of that.

You are an example!!

No big lose to me. Couldn’t stand the guy anyway.

And good riddance to this agitator , he shouts about doing something about the debt, but not if it means his victims compensation fund gets reduced.

sounds like a Win-Win to me!

This is not a game of who makes the most money. Its not “Monopoly”. At the rate we are going, there will be ten people owning 99% of our private wealth in just 30 years.

Yup, but I never throw the F bomb. Nothing you have posted that I’ve said is vulgar.

Take your crap somewhere else, It’s not working.

Stay stupid, you’re good at it.

“TMP”

You don’t like being called out on your hypocrisy, do you? So if you can find something in the dictionary it can’t be vulgar? That’s your test?!!? I’ve got news for you – “eat” and “faeces” can be found in the dictionary, too.

You are a seething mass of hatred and hypocrisy – and as I’ve always found with schoolyard bullies, those that shout the loudest and act the toughest usually cower in the corner with nothing to say when it comes down to it.

Earth to liberals. If O’Reilly quits his replacement will not get paid what Bill gets paid, that means your Marxist homeboy won’t be able to steal the taxes he gets to steal now. Do the math, you Marxist!

I’ve been at this for over a decade pal. Nothing that comes from a small minded person like you will ever affect me. Nothing I posted was vulgar, descriptive yes, but not vulgar.

I don’t hate anyone and the hypocrisy is solely on those who attack me because anything I post of that nature is in response to liberal ignorance and hate.

Are you spending much time on the schoolyard lately? That’s nice. You go and play now and leave the grownups alone.

Stay stupid, you’re good at it.

LMAO

“TMP”

Exactly! It’s the same reason Rush Limbaugh sold his home in New York and move to Florida where there’s no state income tax. New York lost $1 million because of it, and I’m proud, let those liberal bastards steal their taxes from someone else.

A tad misogynistic, aren’t you? Can you ever make a point without luxuriating in insults?

This is a numbers game. The tax code is set up to capitalize on the size of the herd, not the yield per individual. The fact is the feds get more money from weighting the deal toward the middle class because there are millions more of them than millionaires.

It is not a hard concept to grasp, except for people like you.

That depends on how many scores are included.

Why not? Liberals do this all the time and they think it is perfectly alright.

Why not? Liberals do this all the time and they think it is perfectly alright.

If the rich people who own the companies can’t put money into hiring more people, where does the money come from for consumers to buy with?  Tell me, I just don’t see how zeroing in on a small number of “ultra rich” people and taxing the snot out of them is going to fix the unemployment problem. Without the investment capital to create more jobs, I don’t care how much consumer demand goes up, that just means less supply and higher prices. So tell me economic genius, how is taxing going to fix unemployment?  How is it going to fix the struggling of the poor who can barely afford the necessities of life now?

This is a non-starter; taxes will never fix no jobs and poverty. An unstable economy is the result of investors losing confidence in getting a return on investment, which is the only reason to invest. No sane person invests with the intent of losing their money. If investors sit on their cash reserves instead of investing and take profits by selling instead of buying you get what we now have in the market – wild swings of buy/sell cycles and a lot of short sales to at least rescue some money from being lost.

Taxing the rich is not going to fix that either. Stopping the spending on non essentials will.

No, it is far from the truth.

While not exactly complimentary, the points Michelle makes are unmistakeable. Your statement indicates a basic lack of grasping the basic concepts of business.

Sorry, but Michele is correct and you are not.

Sentence fragments do not make you a wellspring of insight. This kind of response negates any point you were trying to make.

There was only erroneous and failed theory in that so-called analysis. You fail again.

That is both insulting and inaccurate. Since you opened the door, it is typical “libtard” tactics – when you don’t have a convincing argument, put up a smokescreen of condescending insults. Perhaps no one will notice the flaws in your reasoning, (or lack thereof).

Media Matters really should update your playbook, this play is transparent and doesn’t work anymore.

Again and more vicious this time. Still wrong too, you are going for the whole enchilada aren’t you?

You earn money, it is taxed, you invest some of that already taxed earnings in the market, you make a profit and get taxed again. Hence double taxed – pretty simple concept, only you can’t get a grip on it.

When you have money, and they take some away, then you get more money by investing and they take some more away that money is being taxed two times because it is still YOUR MONEY!

No it isn’t – there is nothing noble about being an insulting boor. You should know better than anyone.

I have read throughy the vitriol from both left and right that has been poured out on this subject and am more than modestly sick for the sight/sound of it.  It is time for everyone to step back and take a breath.  It is also time for everyone to make an effort to learn the true facts and now just the sound bites of the new media.  The right is being (mis)informed too much by the Fox/Limbaugh/Beck axis of commentary.  The left is being driven too much by a difused Greek chorus of far left legislators and pundits.  All of them have become highly skilled it citing a minor factoid and elabroting the factoid into a biblical truth.  In all the cacophony of sound bites, the one honest admission that I’ve heard was Rush Limbaugh in a sit down TV interview (I believe it was Dateline) where he was asked about his outrageous (that word was in the question) rants that inflame to many people.  He laughed and answered very honestly that’s was makes ranking, rankings sell sponsorships, more sponsorship mean more money for me; that’s what the business is all about.  Now who’s yelling the loudest about bring back the 37% tax rate for high income individuals?  High income individuals! DUH.  Each of the commentors should ask themselves, “What have I gained during the period when the high income individuals have paid virtually nothing?  During the full 10 years that the ‘cuts’ have been in effect the number of employed Americans has decreased steadily; not just in the last 2 1/2 years.  The numbers are thrown around about how small the amount of the reinstatement would be.  Take that $580 billion number and multiple it times the 10 years it’s almost $5.8 Trillion that the US Treasury has lost and the Bush and Obama administrations had to borrow.  That said there is still the issue of more than 15 million American that are not paying taxes because they are not employed.  It tht number of people went back to work getting even $10 per hour that’s $280 billion in income which, after deductions would result in taxable income of $42 billion (figuring that only 15% of gross will end up being taxable AGI) then if they pay a 15% tax rate the increased revenue will be $6.3 million.  Add that to the $580 from the projected high income taxpayers (at 37%) and there will be $586 billion in revenue enhancements every year.  (Forget that 10 year bunk; it’ll never happen.)  The current annual deficit is $1.3 trillion; Now go find $800 billion in spending cuts INCLUDING means testing Social Security, advancing the retirement age, and dealing with the 30% of the Medicare cost that goes into care in the last year of life.  BTW I’m 73, still working for some additonal income along with a modest IRA, and rely on Medicare plus an AARP supplement. and, Oh yeah,  Adios Bill O

Michelle,

I know based on the conservative definition of Lib, which is everyone who does not jump up and down and say they are a conservative, I am a lib.  Personally I consider myself a centrist…actually a little to the right.  I know conservatives do not believe in centrist but that doesn’t mean we do not exist.  We Centrist/Moderates do EXIST!

Personally, I would reset all taxes back to the proven Clinton / Republican Congress rates.  We have to pay our bills.  And we clearly have a lot to pay for after the Iraqi stimulus package which paid for the building of roads, bridges, and schools in Iraq.  I felt, back in 2003/2004, we could not afford it but conservatives said “no we have to stay the course”.  Now they have changed their tune and seem focused on reducing US Debt.  A good thing, but highly hypocritical, coming from conservatives. 

As far as poor not paying income taxes…there is some truth to that.  Many of those poor do not even know it because of the complexity of our tax code and often complain about taxes they don’t even pay.  Many of those poor people are conservatives who hate libs (like you do) because of abortion or gun policy. 

The bottom line here is somehow we have to pay our bills.  This is going to come through raising taxes, increasing economic growth, and reducing spending.  But let me be clear…raising taxes is a NEEDED part of the solution.  Obama is on board with this…he offered JB a pretty good deal with at least 3 to 1 cuts to revenue increases during the debt ceiling fiasco.  I liked that as a centrist.  But JB had to walk because of Tea Party morons.

If Barack Obama begins taxing me more than 50%, which is very possible

no, it’s not, you damn liar.  There is no political will in the upper classes who control the legislature to raise taxes to 39% on income over 250,000, despite that most Americans think it’s a grand idea.  The Money Party oligarch-fellating Senators like Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu are already whining.

the idea that the Money Party would allow taxes to go up top 50% on anyone is hysterical, although, once again, it demonstrates that another “conservative” doesn’t understand what the word “marginal” in marginal income tax means.  it’s like a disease with these people

Hey Asshole, had you taken the time to read the linked article maybe you would have come across this..

“ Under the SE Tax Act, self-employed people are responsible for the entire percentage of 15.3% ”

Funny that is how it Turbo Tax does my taxes as well….  Now do you fell like a FUCKING MORON or what?

Hey, It is rare that I would call anyone an Asshole on a public site but for you I will make the exception.  

Had you actually read the link that I provided or done a little investigation on your own maybe you would have seen this…  as it is in the link.

“ Under the SE Tax Act, self-employed people are responsible for the entire percentage of 15.3% ”

Now do you maybe feel a little bit like a …  what were your exact words?  Oh Yeah a “Fucking Moron”.  

Funny that is how it comes out on my taxes as well as I am an independent contractor.  

You know that it is rare that I would ever call anyone an asshole online but for you I will make that exception… Had you read the link that I provided above you would have seen that I was correct as it is clearly stated, but I will go one better for you…

From the IRS website.. http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=98846,00.html

“What is Self-Employment Tax?Self-employment tax is a tax consisting of Social Security and Medicare taxes primarily for individuals who work for themselves. It is similar to the Social Security and Medicare taxes withheld from the pay of most wage earners.You figure self-employment tax (SE tax) yourself using Schedule SE (Form 1040).

Social Security and Medicare taxes of most wage earners are figured by their employers. Also you can deduct half of your SE tax in figuring your adjusted gross income. Wage earners cannot deduct Social Security and Medicare taxes.Self-Employment Tax RateThe 2010 Tax Relief Act reduced the self-employment tax by 2% for self-employment income earned in calendar year 2011. The self-employment tax rate for self-employment income earned in calendar year 2011 is 13.3% (10.4% for Social Security and 2.9% for Medicare).

For self-employment income earned in 2010, the self-employment tax rate is 15.3%. The rate consists of two parts: 12.4% for social security (old-age, survivors, and disability insurance) and 2.9% for Medicare (hospital insurance).”

Now I can see that you are a little slow, so maybe I need to explain to you that this reflects the current 2% reduction in the tax as part of the president’s stimulus…Now I only have one question for you…….  Do you feel like a fucking moron?????? Fucktard.

You’ve been at this for over a decade and that’s the best you’ve got? Wow. Time to call it a day, my friend.

Yep – checked your posts – based on the last two weeks, I counted over 90% which contain unprovoked insults and name calling, yet you say that name calling is a trait of the left and that insults and vulgarity “are all little people have.” And then you say you don’t hate anyone, which you probably honestly believe but based on the evidence is delusional nonsense. Facts are stubborn things, aren’t they. Is it impossible for you to have a civilised discussion with anyone that dares think outside your political box? We all have to march in lock-step to your beliefs – everything else should be shut down. Is that what you like? We all know where that ends, don’t we…

I really hope you can escape from your dark, closed mind and one day show some decency and respect. Hypocrisy and anger won’t solve your problems.

Good for you little man. I don’t need to escape from anywhere because I clearly see what people like you are.

I’m honored that Media Matters has sent you over here to try and discourage me from posting my beliefs.

Stay stupid, it’s what you’re good at. You complain about me having a civilized conversation but your posts to me were all personal attacks off topic. As you can see, I give back 10 times what I receive. You’re a Hypocrite by your own definition.

Now run along, you bore the hell out of me. I’m not intimidated by leftists.

“TMP”

You’ve just proved my point for me, thank you very much.

Oh and I also saw that you are ex-military – now everything is starting to fall into place…

Another Leftist who hates the people who keep you free. You’re a small man.

Stay stupid, we’ll protect your right to remain ignorant.

“TMP”

If you can show me where I expressed my disdain for the military, you will get a prize. If you can’t back it up, don’t make it up.

Every time you post you simply can’t keep the hatred down. Just sayin’

Buzz off little man. It’s not working. You’re a hypocrite in the first magnitude. The readers of your crap will decide if your attack on me for being in the Military was kind reverence or disdain.

Stay stupid, it’s your comfort zone.

“TMP”

I happen to have great respect for those serving in the military and the job they do. I never said otherwise. My words are actually taken straight from yours, when you said “…expressing his disdain for the military”. Guess what? Little grammar tip for you – the possessive use of “his” becomes “my” when you reply in the first person.

What I was getting at was that you seem to have a giant chip on your shoulder and a lot of pent up rage about something, with an almost pathalogical need to insult and put others down when they dare to disagree with you. I would be amazed if this was completely unrelated to your past. You should probably channel this in a more productive way, before it causes damage.

Blah, blah blah blah. Nice backpedaling. Sorry, It’s not working.
Go channel your ignorance somewhere else, it’s boring.

“TMP”

I remember when hogman Limpbone said he would leave the U.S. and move to the Dominican Republic to be with his boys if health care reform passed – why didn’t he leave? Maybe this would be one way to get rid of the nutters.

As I said, please go and speak to a professional – they are there to help people in your situation deal with ongoing issues from their past.

Buzz off little man.

“TMP”

You like trying to be the forum bully, don’t you? In my experience those that make the most noise have the least to say. Those that act the toughest have the weakest spines. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you…sothere!

Blah blah blah blah. If people don’t like what I post then they can ignore them.

Nice insult little man now go out and play before the street lights come on.

Ladies and gentlemen I present you a Media Matters hack.
He has my hook in his lip
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This is his intelligent post to me.

LMFAO

“TMP”

It appears to me that it’s you who are the bully here. I see you trying to antagonize this guy even when he backs up his posts then you attack him. 

To use a favorite liberal term, you appear to be a Troll.  Reading your posts I’m sure that I’m right.

Are you fixated on this guy or what?

How can they pay property taxes if they are poor?  If they are so poor why do the use their food stamps to buy frivilous things that I can’t afford? What’s wrong with this picture?

You’re an insulting bugger aren’t you? The mark of a true, died -in-the-wool progressive who would rather try to insult and marginalize another person argument. When you do that, YOU announce that you have LOST

Another believe in Keynesian economics! The politicians love this because the want to be re-elected and they don’t want to cause pain. They have run this country into the ground.

Another believe in Keynesian economics! The politicians love this because the want to be re-elected and they don’t want to cause pain. They have run this country into the ground.

lol – are you a slow reader?  The post you’re responding to is a month old!

lol – are you a slow reader?  The post you’re responding to is a month old!