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Sen. Jon Kyl: Let’s Not “Rush To Speculate” And Blame Shooting On Political Rhetoric

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On Face the Nation, Senator Jon Kyl told Bob Schieffer that before blaming “vitriolic political rhetoric” for the tragic Arizona shooting, we should not “rush to speculate” since “we really don’t know what motivated this young person except to know that he was very mentally unstable.” This common sense reaction would not ordinarily be newsworthy, except for the fact that it bizarrely seems to be such a minority opinion amongst those speaking publicly about the incident.

Kyl continued:

“It’s probably giving him too much credit to ascribe a coherent political philosophy to him. We just have to acknowledge that there are some mentally unstable people in this country. Who knows what motivates them to do what they do.”

I wrote earlier about how I found the rush to assign blame for the actions of a senseless lunatic, before we know the shooter’s true motives, to be a worthless and opportunistic endeavor. And with Senator Dick Durbin, columnist Joe Klein, Keith Olbermann and many more rushing to speculate that Tea Party rhetoric and cable news theatrics are to blame, it seems like hysterical speculation is crowding common sense out of the conversation.

Kyl offered up the simplest and probably most likely explanation for the tragedy: sometimes a nut is just a nut. While everyone would prefer the shooter have a clear rationale and while all would want to do everything in their power to prevent another loon with a gun from being on the loose, the scary truth is that sometimes no explanation exists. Therefore, until any evidence arises to suggest otherwise, a focus on eliminating passionate political discourse is a misdirected, and often self-serving effort, since the unfortunate reality is that lunatics who commit such heinous acts likely lack the sanity to be listening to anyone else in the first place.

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  • Tucker P.

    Isn’t local law enforcement’s job foremost to protect and serve . Not free speech !
    Where was the sheriff’s dept. that day . Don’t they keep up on events going on in they’re town ? And decide where they should protect and serve . A US rep at a Safeway might be a place to do your job for the day .
    But instead local law have become responders . Then they overrun the place with law .
    The local Law fails . They must have all been too busy getting ticket money from their motorist . Instead of keeping themselves posted on where to protect and serve for the day . A deputy or city police should have been on site .

  • BFD

    “eliminating passionate political discourse ”

    lol @ calling it passionate discourse instead of what it really is….
    Demonizing the person instead of putting forth policy to help America, something Palin is an expert at.

    Sorry you don’t want to have that discussion now Matt but we had it during Beck’s rally, during Stewart’s rally, every time someone calls someone else a Nazi, every time Rush says something stupid, whenever O’Reilly starts yelling at someone, whenever Rep. King says “there is nothing good about this guy” while the family of Michael Jackson was still grieving, whenever Olbermann tells someone to go to hell, etc etc etc…as a matter of fact we pretty much have this discussion every day of the year. Especially here on Mediaite. Your job is discussing it.

    We are not going to stop talking about it just because of this tragedy.
    And Sarah Palin is one of the worst offenders so she is on the top of the list.
    Also because Giffords called her out personally she is also on the top of the list.

    I have been saying these things about Palin every day here, I am not going to stop today just because she had nothing to do with someone being shot.
    That doesn’t change what she is.
    Sorry.

  • Kird

    BFD said:
    I have been saying these things about Palin every day here, I am not going to stop today just because she had nothing to do with someone being shot.
    That doesn’t change what she is.
    Sorry.

    Of course, why let six slain people stand in the way of your mission when you can use the loss of their lives as ammunition to continue your every day crusade.

  • timzank

    BFD said:
    “eliminating passionate political discourse ” lol @ calling it passionate discourse instead of what it really is….Demonizing the person instead of putting forth policy to help America, something Palin is an expert at. Sorry you don’t want to have that discussion now Matt but we had it during Beck’s rally, during Stewart’s rally, every time someone calls someone else a Nazi, every time Rush says something stupid, whenever O’Reilly starts yelling at someone, whenever Rep. King says “there is nothing good about this guy” while the family of Michael Jackson was still grieving, whenever Olbermann tells someone to go to hell, etc etc etc…as a matter of fact we pretty much have this discussion every day of the year. Especially here on Mediaite. Your job is discussing it. We are not going to stop talking about it just because of this tragedy.And Sarah Palin is one of the worst offenders so she is on the top of the list.Also because Giffords called her out personally she is also on the top of the list. I have been saying these things about Palin every day here, I am not going to stop today just because she had nothing to do with someone being shot.That doesn’t change what she is.Sorry.

    Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
    ** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
    ** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
    ** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
    ** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
    ** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
    ** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
    ** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
    ** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”.

    Simmer down ya hack, your leader has a hot head too.

  • Kird

    timzank said:
    Obama:

    if Obama didn’t have to consistantly worry about angering the liberal blogosphere, he could be a powerful force for unity in the post Bush political climate. Too bad the far left want nothing but perpetual war.

  • BFD

    Kird said:
    Of course, why let six slain people stand in the way of your mission when you can use the loss of their lives as ammunition to continue your every day crusade.

    Once again, I am not “using” the tragedy but merely doing what I do every day.

    If you think I should go on hiatus because of this incident I simply disagree.
    Rep. Giffords being shot does not equal a Snow Day for Sarah Palin.

  • Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996

    BFD said:
    I have been saying these things about Palin every day here,

    Ditto. Sarah Palin isn’t entitled to an off-day because of this incident.

  • Kird

    BFD said:
    Once again, I am not “using” the tragedy but merely doing what I do every day.

    If you think I should go on hiatus because of this incident I simply disagree.
    Rep. Giffords being shot does not equal a Snow Day for Sarah Palin.

    Article about the tragedy did not mention Palin, but you immediately brought her into the discussion. That’s “using” to promote your obvious stated agenda.

  • Kird

    Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996 said:
    Ditto. Sarah Palin isn’t entitled to an off-day because of this incident.

    Yea, I’m sure the bitch is really upset about the “push back.”

  • da-wdc

    When unbalanced people tune in to hateful rhetoric that tells them, day in day out, that the government is out of control, the president is destroying the country, the times are like those that gave rise to the Nazis, and on and on.. some of them will lash out and do violent things.

    That IS what common sense tells me. Sure, sometimes a nut is just a nut. This particular nut deliberately targeted a member of Congress. Think about that. My common sense tells me that when someone attempts to assassinate a member of Congress, it is political, and it is worth investigating just what the person was reading and hearing and whether that may have incited him to do this. Just because some people on blogs decide to jump to conclusions doesn’t mean we should stop asking WHY this person targeted a member of Congress.

  • Kird

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  • TfT

    The Sherrif in this case now needs to recuse himself from the prosecution, after appearing with Megan today and making the whole incident about politics, he has diminished himself and his ability to deal with this on the matter of fact and truth.

    Shame on him for his unprofessional behavior.

  • BFD

    Kird said:
    Article about the tragedy did not mention Palin, but you immediately brought her into the discussion. That’s “using” to promote your obvious stated agenda.

    Don’t be naive.
    Many are connecting this tragedy to Palin, which I have repeatedly disagreed with.
    Be real, that’s who Kyl was defending and I don’t blame him for not using her name the same as Lamar Alexander didn’t want to use it.
    That doesn’t change the fact that her name is on everyone’s lips today, both on defense and offense, left and right.

    My point is that her name is on my lips every day, and will continue to be so. She has never had a political discussion where she didn’t demonize her opponent’s manliness, patriotism or morality and I despise her for that and will continue to do so until she learns to talk like a responsible politician instead of an extreme blogger.

  • leonardclark

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    We believe that healthcare for emegency responders should not be held hostage over politics especially in the shameful and disgracefu­l way this corrupt senator Kyl has done. The rumor is he wants to retire early, well we are here to help him retire a little early and make an example of what happens to politician­s like Kyl who give a Arizona a black eye especially when it comes to playing politics with medical care for our emergency responders of 9/11. Shame on Jon Kyl ! Please help us recall him ! Please call us if you have any questions at: 623-329-02­84 our webpage is: leonardcla­rk.net
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  • Kird

    BFD said:
    Don’t be naive.
    Many are connecting this tragedy to Palin, which I have repeatedly disagreed with.

    And yet your first comment here connects her to it.

    My point is that her name is on my lips every day, and will continue to be so.

    Captain Ahab

    BFD said:
    She has never had a political discussion where she didn’t demonize her opponent’s manliness, patriotism or morality and I despise her for that and will continue to do so until she learns to talk like a responsible politician instead of an extreme blogger.

    Yes, equate her to six people’s death just because she’s a bitch.

  • Reality Bites

    “I wrote earlier about how I found the rush to assign blame for the actions of a senseless lunatic, before we know the shooter’s true motives, to be a worthless and opportunistic endeavor….” so says Matt Schneider.

    Of all the thousands of nutjob comments on all the Giffords stories, THIS is probably the most ridiculous & hypocritical of them all. And it’s been the most ‘opportunistic’ thing to come your way in quite a while.

    As informative as Mediaite has been in the past, your overt encouragement of constant partisan mash-ups in your Comments section serves no purpose other than to spread more anger and misinformation for solely for the site’s attention. It’s getting to the point where what you folks facilitate doesn’t come close to TV’s screaming heads on both the Right & the Left.

    I think your ‘endeavors’ are becoming clearer & clearer. You guys really need to get some control. Or are your SEO numbers more important than hosting this hate-fest?

  • Kird

    Not even Karl Rowe would sink so low as this Palin angle on the tragedy. And with that, I’ll agree with “Reality Bites” and raise my feet out of this gutter.

  • Thelonious Funk

    why speculate that hateful rhetoric caused this?

    speculation is bad.

    we should instead just speculate that he is a nut.

  • BFD

    Kird said:
    Yes, equate her to six people’s death just because she’s a bitch.

    Please show me the quote where I did that and I will retract it.

    Thank you.

  • BFD

    Thelonious Funk said:
    why speculate that hateful rhetoric caused this?

    I agree, but I don’t think that should stop us from speculating that hateful rhetoric is bad for America and we should denounce it from our leaders and media.

  • timzank

    BFD said:
    I agree, but I don’t think that should stop us from speculating that hateful rhetoric is bad for America and we should denounce it from our leaders and media.

    What do you suppose the “rhetoric” was like in this nation leading up to and after the assasination of Lincoln? Do you people honestly think “this is the maddest the people in this country have ever been”??? or something? For Christs sake are you all so narrow minded you honestly believe the “heated rhetoric” of today is worse????

    Reminds me of a song that starts out “Don’t know much about history”……

    Not exaclty “big picture” thinkers are you?

  • BFD

    timzank said:
    What do you suppose the “rhetoric” was like in this nation leading up to and after the assasination of Lincoln? Do you people honestly think “this is the maddest the people in this country have ever been”??? or something? For Christs sake are you all so narrow minded you honestly believe the “heated rhetoric” of today is worse????

    Yeah, there’s a lot of things that we did back then that we don’t do today as we become more civil-minded.
    I could start naming them but I don’t think i am going to waste my time.

  • rocky road

    Obama is to blame for this hateful rhetoric. Talking points sent to media immediately following this tragedy was blame Palin, blame Fox , blame conservatives with no evidence. These people should be ashamed. Cong. Clyburn is on Fox right now blaming the tea party. This failure of affirmative action was one of the despicable liars who said the N word was used during the healthcare protest.
    Obama, Clyburn and the MSM are irresponsible and I hope they pay dearly for inciting violence and hatred.

  • The Real Royal King

    BFD said:
    Yeah, there’s a lot of things that we did back then that we don’t do today as we become more civil-minded.I could start naming them but I don’t think i am going to waste my time.

    I think what Tim is saying is that if we all went back to urinating outside, America would be returned to its greatness.

  • timcajun

    rocky road says:

    Obama is to blame for this hateful rhetoric. Talking points sent to media immediately following this tragedy was blame Palin, blame Fox , blame conservatives with no evidence. These people should be ashamed. Cong. Clyburn is on Fox right now blaming the tea party. This failure of affirmative action was one of the despicable liars who said the N word was used during the healthcare protest.
    Obama, Clyburn and the MSM are irresponsible and I hope they pay dearly for inciting violence and hatred.

    True, blame should not be thrown out, so what kind of low IQ moron blames Obama,”affirmative action”! What a racist stain of urine! “I hope Obama pays dearly”, wise thing to say in these times! So its not Palins fault ,(I agree) but it is Obama’s fault?

  • Jackyboy

    Thank god, someone who is actually thinking objectively and clearly with a brain instead of having a political axe to grind. What took you so long?

  • Davo

    Just notice the tone of Conservatives, both here and on the national scene. Then look at the vitriol from every LIBERAL from the nobodies here to usual suspects from the Democrat Party at the national level.

    Because Leftists like Van Jones, William Ayers, Piven, and others on Team Obama are on record advocating “violence in the streets” to get the results their Communist “revolution” seeks, the Democrat Party had to get in gear early today to start the brainwash chant in effort to distract attention away from their Leftist mentors. They must blame Sara Palin, FOX, Rush, and Tea Partiers, NONE of which, however, ever advocated violence.

    From Dick Durbin to Obermann to Krugman, Democrat liars have lined up end to end desperately pointing their fingers away from the real culprits……………..they themselves.

  • Post American

    The U.S. Secret Service blamed Palin’s unstable and crazy rhetoric for death threats against the POTUS.

    Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over death threats against Barack Obama
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/sarah-palin/3405336/Sarah-Palin-blamed-by-the-US-Secret-Service-for-death-threats-against-Barack-Obama.html
    The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with supporters yelling “terrorist” and “kill him” until the McCain campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric.

  • Hugo Daun

    The Real Royal King said:
    I think what Tim is saying is that if we all went back to urinating outside, America would be returned to its greatness.

    We were supposed to STOP doing that?

    Damn, I never got the memo!

  • Latin2

    According to people who knew the shooter he was a 9/11 truther, you know like Van Jones;

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gutbUc8KWEv3iMUewPN445D4uSYw?docId=c09a07a17e1b4aaa82815779cbf6f758

    “Mistrust of government was Loughner’s defining conviction, the friends said. He believed the U.S. government was behind 9/11″

    AND INTO SATANIC RITUALS;

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/10/2011-01-10_chilling_shrine_in_madmans_yard.html

  • writer

    People seem to forget that after having his picture taken with Rosalynn Carter, thirty dead bodies were found in John Wayne Gacy’s crawl space.

  • timcajun

    Davo says:

    From Dick Durbin to Obermann to Krugman, Democrat liars have lined up end to end desperately pointing their fingers away from the real culprits……………..they themselves.

    Lets be clear on this with all the tea hate, Palins “don’t retreat, reload”, 2nd amendments, gun billboards, by any means, hate signs at tea rallies, ok this is clear now its the liberals fault with no credit to another party! Thanks for clearing that up!

  • Nahu Tuk

    Not to worry folks, GBR (a.k.a. “Bombshell”) will be here soon to show us all how it is actually Glenn Beck’s fault that the left-wing pothead Loughner went out of his nut and shot a bunch of people.

  • Nahu Tuk

    timcajun said:
    Dick Durbin to Obermann to Krugman, Democrat liars have lined up end to end desperately pointing their fingers away from the real culprits

    That’s reality tim. Of course, your being from a state that elects such scoundrels as Edwin Edwards, Moreal, Jefferson, and Huey P Long would mean that you have a natural aversion to reality.

  • esd2000

    Sen. Jon Kyl: Let’s Not “Rush To Speculate” And Blame Shooting On Political Rhetoric
    Then we can get back to the hateful and volatile political arena which we love so much.
    Some people are incapable of learning anything.

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