Thank god. I was wondering where she stood on the issue of a awful TV show.

Its hilarious to me how you left wingers always put quotes around “liberal bias”, as if its some crazy conspiracy theory. Yet, you same left wingers constantly talk about the right wing as if there is no debate about its bias at Fox.

The folks at HLN read between the lines of that post and were able to translate it as “Someone please put me in front of television cameras right now!”

Perfectly put, Jon. Hey everybody! Who wants to see a trainwreck?!?!?!?

I am confused. Is she only opposed to oral sex with Muslims?

Does media promotion of homosexuality actually help homosexuals? Does an accepting society help them? The fact that a homosexual is just as likely to suffer depression and attempt suicide in San Francisco as he is in Omaha would indicate otherwise.

i guess we could wonder if she is just saying these outrageous things simply because she is a comedian, thus should render her free of criticism, and ridicule…

I mean, when Maher calls the Qaran a hate filled book, we all know he is just doing it to be edgy and he is a comedian, after all. And same thing when he calls Sarah Palin a dumb twat. It’s all in good fun, he’s just a comedian after all. Same for Joy Behar and Kathy Griffin – they don’t mean to say malicious and demeaning things – they are just being funny, right?

I think that’s what Jackson is doing, too. Like Griffin was when she was slamming Christians on Glee. She’s just being f u n n y.

Two things that I don’t want in my life Victoria Jackson & Glee

sarainitaly said:
i guess we could wonder if she is just saying these outrageous things simply because she is a comedian, thus should render her free of criticism, and ridicule…

I mean, when Maher calls the Qaran a hate filled book, we all know he is just doing it to be edgy and he is a comedian, after all. And same thing when he calls Sarah Palin a dumb twat. It’s all in good fun, he’s just a comedian after all. Same for Joy Behar and Kathy Griffin – they don’t mean to say malicious and demeaning things – they are just being funny, right?

I think that’s what Jackson is doing, too. Like Griffin was when she was slamming Christians on Glee. She’s just being f u n n y.

So, you’re saying she’s a conservative comedian and being treated unfairly? Have you considered the possibility she is simply not funny? I’ve yet to hear a funny conservative comedian, much as I have yet to see a conservative painter who could paint or a conservative actor who could act. I’d enjoy seeing such people some day.

sarainitaly said:
i guess we could wonder if she is just saying these outrageous things simply because she is a comedian, thus should render her free of criticism, and ridicule…

I mean, when Maher calls the Qaran a hate filled book, we all know he is just doing it to be edgy and he is a comedian, after all. And same thing when he calls Sarah Palin a dumb twat. It’s all in good fun, he’s just a comedian after all. Same for Joy Behar and Kathy Griffin – they don’t mean to say malicious and demeaning things – they are just being funny, right?

I think that’s what Jackson is doing, too. Like Griffin was when she was slamming Christians on Glee. She’s just being f u n n y.

Um, do you follow the news? Maher is getting shit from all over the spectrum deservedly, but nice try changing the subject

kvon said:
Um, do you follow the news? Maher is getting shit from all over the spectrum deservedly, but nice try changing the subject

In fairness to Sara N. Italy, she lives in Italy and seldom watches American or English television, and she doesn’t speak Italian. So, no, she doesn’t watch the news, but it really isn’t her fault, so she should be able to comment on what she couldn’t watch. Besides, she is an amazing Googler.

….light penetrates darkness at CNN-Lite ….why can’t Hollywood make a TV show that doesn’t insult Christian values???? hhmmmmmmmmmm?? There is not ONE show. Where is the tolerance? Where is the open-mindedness?? thanks Victoria for preaching the “light” to America and giving people a choice. If you don’t like listening to her, turn the channel Atheists/Agmostics/Humanists.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
In fairness to Sara N. Italy, she lives in Italy and seldom watches American or English television, and she doesn’t speak Italian. So, no, she doesn’t watch the news, but it really isn’t her fault, so she should be able to comment on what she couldn’t watch. Besides, she is an amazing Googler.

Her name sake isn’t exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, so I should expect nothing less than wholesale idiocy.

flagringo said:
….light penetrates darkness at CNN-Lite ….why can’t Hollywood make a TV show that doesn’t insult Christian values???? hhmmmmmmmmmm?? There is not ONE show. Where is the tolerance? Where is the open-mindedness?? thanks Victoria for preaching the “light” to America and giving people a choice. If you don’t like listening to her, turn the channel Atheists/Agmostics/Humanists.

What about “Big Love”?

Millie Jackson said it much better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQYn2zG45ms

great line – you say you got no money for food, then why the hell you overweight

kvon said:
Um, do you follow the news? Maher is getting shit from all over the spectrum deservedly, but nice try changing the subject

Where’s NOW?

“Obama’s speeches are all fake and they say nothing. Cotton candy for stupid people. But, you Glenn Beck, you are a thinker. Like me. You are unbiased. Like me. You are simply seeking Truth, just like me.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/top-10-victoria-jackson-quotes-about-glenn-beck

sarainitaly said:
Where’s NOW?

Again, please consult an online translator if need be, but I can’t understand you. Are you talking about the National Organization of Women?

kvon said:
but nice try changing the subject

where am i changing the subject? i am talking about her.

kvon said:
Her name sake isn’t exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, so I should expect nothing less than wholesale idiocy.

that’s ripe, coming from tweedle dee and tweedle dumb. But, FWIW:

sarainitaly said:
Victoria Jackson: Glee Episode Featuring Gay Kiss ‘Made A Mockery Of Christians’

“Did you see “Glee” this week? Sickening! And, besides shoving the gay thing down our throats, they made a mockery of Christians – again! I wonder what their agenda is? Hey, producers of “Glee” – what’s your agenda? One-way tolerance?” ~ VJ

While I disagree with her anti-gay comments, I believe she referring to the Kathy Griffin character as the one “making a mockery of Christians”. And she was right about her “one-way tolerance” comments. Glee wants everyone to be tolerant of gays, but show no tolerance towards Christians.

That said, Jackson would have better legs to stand on if she wasn’t actually acting like the intolerant Christian they portrayed on the show.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/victoria-jackson-glee-episode-featuring-gay-kiss-made-a-mockery-of-christians/comment-page-3/#comments

Is it just me or does she look and sound like she’s been on a bender for the past month?

flagringo said:
….light penetrates darkness at CNN-Lite ….why can’t Hollywood make a TV show that doesn’t insult Christian values???? hhmmmmmmmmmm?? There is not ONE show. Where is the tolerance? Where is the open-mindedness?? thanks Victoria for preaching the “light” to America and giving people a choice. If you don’t like listening to her, turn the channel Atheists/Agmostics/Humanists.

You realize that you have Cary Grant as your Avatar right? And you’re saying this crazy shit? That dude did LSD often and was anything but a Christian.

sarainitaly said:
i guess we could wonder if she is just saying these outrageous things simply because she is a comedian, thus should render her free of criticism, and ridicule…

I mean, when Maher calls the Qaran a hate filled book, we all know he is just doing it to be edgy and he is a comedian, after all. And same thing when he calls Sarah Palin a dumb twat. It’s all in good fun, he’s just a comedian after all. Same for Joy Behar and Kathy Griffin – they don’t mean to say malicious and demeaning things – they are just being funny, right?

I think that’s what Jackson is doing, too. Like Griffin was when she was slamming Christians on Glee. She’s just being f u n n y.

–Bill Maher, subject attempted to be changed.

sarainitaly said:
i guess we could wonder if she is just saying these outrageous things simply because she is a comedian, thus should render her free of criticism, and ridicule…

I mean, when Maher calls the Qaran a hate filled book, we all know he is just doing it to be edgy and he is a comedian, after all. And same thing when he calls Sarah Palin a dumb twat. It’s all in good fun, he’s just a comedian after all. Same for Joy Behar and Kathy Griffin – they don’t mean to say malicious and demeaning things – they are just being funny, right?

I think that’s what Jackson is doing, too. Like Griffin was when she was slamming Christians on Glee. She’s just being f u n n y.

Please show me how they are being intolerant of Christianity? And doing things that Christians don’t like is not the same as intolerance dumbass, then everything is intolerant! Intolerance is an attack on something. Being pro-Gay is not the same as being anti-Christian. Just like you praying isn’t anti-Atheist, and being Atheist isn’t being anti-Christian.

kvon said:
Again, please consult an online translator if need be, but I can’t understand you. Are you talking about the National Organization of Women?

you can’t understand me, and you tell me to consult an online translator? isn’t it you with the problem?

Yes, NOW, the National Organization of Women. The ones who have yet to condemn his remarks.

“Maher is getting shit from all over the spectrum deservedly,” from Conservative sites, Women’s Magazine and Women’s Media Center. Who on the Left is giving him sh*t?

That is one hell of a spokesmen. You Tea Partiers should be proud!

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
I’ve yet to hear a funny conservative comedian, much as I have yet to see a conservative painter who could paint or a conservative actor who could act. I’d enjoy seeing such people some day.

On the flip side, I’ve yet to hear of a hard-working liberal that actually exerts physical labor, much less a liberal mechanic who could work on a vehicle or a liberal philosopher who’s ideas have helped all of mankind, or a liberal theologian who truly believes in God. I’d enjoy seeing such people some day. The one’s who do abandon the New Left liberal nonsense…..

Sure is slim picken’s for conservatives when it comes to celebrity spokespeople…

This nitwit uses the same method as some other Spudnuts. At 1:31 she reveals her notes written on her hand.

Wow. She looks like shit.

kvon said:
Being pro-Gay is not the same as being anti-Christian

Yet both are an insult to The Lord…….

Here’s an example from God’s Word when the people wanted to be like the heathen around them

And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
(1 Samuel 8:7)

Kvon, I have to say I am much enjoying your “discussion” with Sara N. Italy. I have always found it rather like having a discussion with a clothes dryer plug.

kvon said:
You realize that you have Cary Grant as your Avatar right? And you’re saying this crazy shit? That dude did LSD often and was anything but a Christian.

What’s your excuse?

Dsiscokid said:
On the flip side, I’ve yet to hear of a hard-working liberal that actually exerts physical labor, much less a liberal mechanic who could work on a vehicle or a liberal philosopher who’s ideas have helped all of mankind, or a liberal theologian who truly believes in God. I’d enjoy seeing such people some day. The one’s who do abandon the New Left liberal nonsense…..

Everything you just said is bullshit. Lots of liberals are plumbers, teachers, sheet metal workers. You name it. I work with them every day. Whether you want to admit it or not, liberals contribute a lot to this society. People of all political ideologies contribute and to say otherwise is ignorant and completely disrespectful to those people who go out and do their part every day. My own mother is a Christian who goes to Church 3 times a week and never has a bad word to say about anyone, but she also believes that gays deserve equal rights and women should have the right to choose when it comes to their bodies. Your comments are so ignorant and do nothing but prove that you probably never leave your house, much less your computer. If you did, you’d realize that liberals word hard too and they deserve to have their opinions just as much as anyone else does without being characterized and branded as immoral and bad for America.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
What about “Big Love”?

Mormons, not Christians
Nice try

kvon said:
Please show me how they are being intolerant of Christianity? And doing things that Christians don’t like is not the same as intolerance dumbass, then everything is intolerant! Intolerance is an attack on something. Being pro-Gay is not the same as being anti-Christian. Just like you praying isn’t anti-Atheist, and being Atheist isn’t being anti-Christian.

well, * dumb-ass*, apparently it is you who is steeped in *idiocy* and ignorance. I, unlike you, watch Glee, and know what I am talking about.

“intolerance is an attack on something.”

Intolerance: unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect contrary opinions or beliefs, persons of different races or backgrounds, etc., lacking respect for practices and beliefs other than one’s own

Watch some back episodes of Glee, and when you are better informed, get back to me. I’ll even help you out a little bit. You can start here, and work backwards:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/kathy-griffins-cartoonish-mockery-of-sarah-palin-like-candidate-on-foxs-glee/

Newsjunky said:
This nitwit uses the same method as some other Spudnuts. At 1:31 she reveals her notes written on her hand.

Kinda reminds you of those crazy homeless bag ladies, huh?

jjay7381 says:

You work with liberal teachers, liberal plumbers and liberal sheet metal workers every day? Really?

Lover said:
jjay7381 says:

You work with liberal teachers, liberal plumbers and liberal sheet metal workers every day? Really?

Yes, as part of my job.

jjay7381 said:
Yes, as part of my job.

EDD?

Wait, you’re a drug counselor.

Lover said:
EDD?

Nice try, but no.

Lover said:
Wait, you’re a drug counselor.

Again, no.

Lover said:
Wait, you’re a drug counselor.

For someone with the name “lover”, you sure do hate a lot of your fellow Americans.

Lover said:
jjay7381 says:

You work with liberal teachers, liberal plumbers and liberal sheet metal workers every day? Really?

What a strange question, go out into the world much?

jjay7381 said:
For someone with the name “lover”, you sure do hate a lot of your fellow Americans.

How did you come up with that? I’m trying to figure out how someone could possibly work with liberal teachers, liberal sheet metal workers and liberal plumbers EVERY day.

I wonder if she realizes how incredibly uninformed and silly she sounds? It’s almost like somebody was feeding her buzzwords in her ear and she wasn’t able to put them together in any cogent manner.

jjay7381 said:
Sure is slim picken’s for conservatives when it comes to celebrity spokespeople…

I think slim pickens is EXACTLY what they need!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6WD7B_I_9c

jjay7381 said:
My own mother is a Christian who goes to Church 3 times a week and never has a bad word to say about anyone, but she also believes that gays deserve equal rights and women should have the right to choose when it comes to their bodies.

Here we go…..I was responding to the King clown’s comment about Conservatives, using Libs instead. Did you call him/her out on their use of sweeping generalities?

My own mother is a Christian who goes to Church 3 times a week and never has a bad word to say about anyone, but she also believes that gays deserve equal rights and women should have the right to choose when it comes to their bodies.

1- Church attendence does not not equate to salvation by faith in Jesus Christ alone (Eph. 2:8,9)
2- What “rights” have sodomites been denied? Marriage is one man, one woman
3 -So a mom have a choice to kill her own child? “Thou shalt not kill”

Dsiscokid said:
Here we go…..I was responding to the King clown’s comment about Conservatives, using Libs instead. Did you call him/her out on their use of sweeping generalities?

My own mother is a Christian who goes to Church 3 times a week and never has a bad word to say about anyone, but she also believes that gays deserve equal rights and women should have the right to choose when it comes to their bodies.

1- Church attendence does not not equate to salvation by faith in Jesus Christ alone (Eph. 2:8,9)
2- What “rights” have sodomites been denied? Marriage is one man, one woman
3 -So a mom have a choice to kill her own child? “Thou shalt not kill”

I remember when Christians cared about the New Testament, and didn’t live in the Old Testament…sad state.

I have to agree that there is never anything on TV or movies that even mentions Christians. Hollywood has pushed God out just like God has been pushed out of our schools. I don’t judge other religions. I had a professor who was Muslim & really enjoyed talking to him about his religion. I have a friend who says he’s pagan & his wife is wiken (sp?) Why is it when there has to be a religion on TV, it’s always Jewish, (or something other than) never Christianity. I know that Jews believe in God but Hollywood acts like Jesus is a bad word! I have children who are growing up in a non-Christian world & I hate that. I’m not on here to say anything bad about gays but I don’t want to turn on the TV & see 2 men kissing….disgusting! Leave it at the movies so atleast I know my kids aren’t flipping through the channels & see it. If anyone disagrees with me, I DON’T CARE! It’s my opinion, you can think anything you want to but keep the drama away from me. Thank you Victoria for taking a stand. This is just another reason for me not to watch Glee. One more thing, I don’t understand why people comment on topics they don’t agree with. They go on-line and cuss and put others down. If you don’t agree, don’t go to that website or turn the station! That’s one reason why I don’t watch Glee!!!!!!!

kvon said:
I remember when Christians cared about the New Testament, and didn’t live in the Old Testament…sad state.

Do you believe the Bible is the Word of God?

kvon said:
I remember when Christians cared about the New Testament, and didn’t live in the Old Testament…sad state.

Ephesians is in the New Testament, by the way…..

Dsiscokid said:
Do you believe the Bible is the Word of God?

I don’t know you, but I can tell that you don’t follow the Bible literally, otherwise you would care more about your own redemption and less about some silly TV show.

Or maybe clothing and feeding the meek.

Or spreading peace.

Or something Jesus was talking about, rather than obsessing over gays which is a footnote in the Bible.

kvon said:
kvon

You’re right. You don’t know me.
That “silly TV show” is only one of the MANY symtoms of a sin sick society.
Christians are to serve the Lord and preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ throughout “the utermost parts of the world” (Acts 1:8) and ALL of the above on your list.
Care to answer the question, my friend?

Victoria Jackson is among the intellectual elite in conservatives circles, or at least among tea-partiers. An up-and-comer if you will.

kvon said:
Or spreading peace

Peace comes to a human’s heart when one believes on the Lord Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins. Here’s what the Lord said when we was on the earth talking to his disciples –

Matt. 10:32-40
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Do people even watch Glee?
I thought the whole High School Musical bullshit/ fad was over with.

Dsiscokid said:
Peace comes to a human’s heart when one believes on the Lord Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins. Here’s what the Lord said when we was on the earth talking to his disciples –

Matt. 10:32-40
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

80% of the New Testament is Jesus talking about the meek dude.

Jon, I don’t think anyone tunes in to Showbiz Tonight on HLN looking for a super adult conversation.

Garth said:
Victoria Jackson is among the intellectual elite in conservatives circles, or at least among tea-partiers. An up-and-comer if you will.

I hope she’s running for president too.

sarainitaly said:
i guess we could wonder if she is just saying these outrageous things simply because she is a comedian, thus should render her free of criticism, and ridicule…

I mean, when Maher calls the Qaran a hate filled book, we all know he is just doing it to be edgy and he is a comedian, after all. And same thing when he calls Sarah Palin a dumb twat. It’s all in good fun, he’s just a comedian after all. Same for Joy Behar and Kathy Griffin – they don’t mean to say malicious and demeaning things – they are just being funny, right?

When Maher calls Sarah Palin a dumb twat, it was part of a joke in a monologue. When he called the Quaran a hate filled book, it was part of a serious discussion. She isn’t being funny or free of criticism, because she is part of a serious segment. Although I can understand how watching Glenn Beck would make you unable to see a difference between a joke and serious discussion.

Cynthia0178 said:
I have to agree that there is never anything on TV or movies that even mentions Christians. Hollywood has pushed God out just like God has been pushed out of our schools.

LMFAO how completely ignorant

Just re-title Glee to Gay so people know what they are tuning into.

The Teabag gift that keeps on giving.

Dsiscokid said:
Peace comes to a human’s heart when one believes on the Lord Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins. Here’s what the Lord said when we was on the earth talking to his disciples –

Matt. 10:32-40
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.
He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Don’t hurt anybody.
Don’t break anything.
Stick to beer.
Get plenty of sleep.
Horde the credit, distribute the blame.

Why are the Libs/Progressives coming down so hard on Vitoria?  Those are her beliefs and she’s not forcing anybody to conform to her ideals.  They are her opinions and they aren’t hurting anyone.  People may disagree with her but, that’s no reason to be snyde and ungentlemanly.  That’s my 2 cents, anyway.

Color Me Badd said:
The Teabag gift that keeps on giving.

Son, wipe that off your face before you post.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:I’ve yet to hear a funny conservative comedian, much as I have yet to see a conservative painter who could paint or a conservative actor who could act. I’d enjoy seeing such people some day.

I’ve found both Mark Lowry and Brad Stine to be pretty funny in the past. A matter of taste, I suppose, but I’d encourage you to give them a look.

notsofast said:
Son, wipe that off your face before you post.

I think it’s been established that you and your significant other, your mullet, are Mediaite’s token hillbilly white trash… son.

It’s alright to be gay, rape girls in public, syphilis, clap, STD, use guns to hold up liquor stores, raising pot in the kitchen and to bully fat kids on the school bus, right? Isn’t this the new morality or new rules as Bill Twat Maher advocates? Just ask Bwarney Frank for conformation.

kvon said:
80% of the New Testament is Jesus talking about the meek dude.

Republicans will never understand that liberals are, for the most part, teaching jesus’ message, they just don’t hand out bibles, they teach by example, they try to help the meek and the minorities, they don’t judge gay people, they try to save animals (like noah), they support EVERYONE not just the rich… Republicans will never understand their politicians have tricked them into being the complete antithesis of Jesus. Republicans have become the party that wants poor people to have no welfare, kick out immigrants (some even want to shoot them from planes), tells Muslims they caused 9/11, and Republicans accept George Bush and they approve of the torture doled out on their tax dollars. They like that their money goes towards killing people in some foreign country.

It’s strange that liberals seem to live by Jesus’ way of life, while Republicans use greed to tear down Jesus’ message.

Ann Coulter, yeah, I’m sure Jesus loves her, same with Rush and Glenn Beck, those people really have humanity’s best interest at heart.

Garth said:
Victoria Jackson is among the intellectual elite in conservatives circles, or at least among tea-partiers. An up-and-comer if you will.

I heard she’s the new voice of the Republican party. I’ve been telling everyone that anyway XD

TeabaggeryUntie said:
Cynthia0178 said:
I have to agree that there is never anything on TV or movies that even mentions Christians. Hollywood has pushed God out just like God has been pushed out of our schools.

PASSION OF THE CHRIST HAD A GOOD RUN! IF THERE WAS A BIGGER INTEREST AT THE BOX OFFICE FOR IT I’M SURE THERE WOULD BE MORE MOVIES MADE! SCHOOL IS NOT A PLACE FOR RELIGION! SCHOOL IS FOR LEARNING ! RELIGION BELONGS AT HOME AND IN YOUR PLACE OF WORSHIP!

Snowspot said:
Republicans will never understand that liberals are, for the most part, teaching jesus’ message, they just don’t hand out bibles, they teach by example, they try to help the meek and the minorities, they don’t judge gay people, they try to save animals (like noah), they support EVERYONE not just the rich… Republicans will never understand their politicians have tricked them into being the complete antithesis of Jesus. Republicans have become the party that wants poor people to have no welfare, kick out immigrants (some even want to shoot them from planes), tells Muslims they caused 9/11, and Republicans accept George Bush and they approve of the torture doled out on their tax dollars. They like that their money goes towards killing people in some foreign country.

It’s strange that liberals seem to live by Jesus’ way of life, while Republicans use greed to tear down Jesus’ message.

Ann Coulter, yeah, I’m sure Jesus loves her, same with Rush and Glenn Beck, those people really have humanity’s best interest at heart.

As a right-leaning guy, I agree with you totally here, but I wouldn’t say that either conservatives or liberals have a monopoly on Jesus’s teachings. There are fundamentally un-Christian morals central to both movements.

It does bother me to see many conservatives eager to cut off help to the poor (and by poor here, I mean those who are poor through no fault of their own), when Jesus spoke so often about taking care of them, just as it bothers me to see liberals eager to champion the mass killing of the unborn (excepting, of course, cases of rape, incest, or where the mother’s health would be in jeopardy.)

In short, Religion and Politics are poor bedfellows.

I JUST BET IF PUBLIC SCHOOLS ALLOWED RELIGION THE REPUBLICAN/TEAPUBLICANS WOULD NOT BE SO QUICK TO SHUT THEM DOWN! OF COURSE THEN WE WOULD HAVE GENERATIONS OF BRAIN WASHED DRONES!

Jean-Luc said:
In short, Religion and Politics are poor bedfellows.

AGREED! THIS IS WHY THEY SHOULD STAY SEPARATE!

Jean-Luc said:
As a right-leaning guy, I agree with you totally here, but I wouldn’t say that either conservatives or liberals have a monopoly on Jesus’s teachings. There are fundamentally un-Christian morals central to both movements.

It does bother me to see many conservatives eager to cut off help to the poor (and by poor here, I mean those who are poor through no fault of their own), when Jesus spoke so often about taking care of them, just as it bothers me to see liberals eager to champion the mass killing of the unborn (excepting, of course, cases of rape, incest, or where the mother’s health would be in jeopardy.)

In short, Religion and Politics are poor bedfellows.

I don’t know if liberals “champion” the killing of the unborn. I, for one, am not pro-abortion, I think it should be the last choice… however, I don’t want to take that choice away. You should be able to get an abortion without telling people why. You shouldn’t have to tell someone, “I’m getting this abortion because I was raped by my father”. That’s why it’s important to keep it legal. I don’t think anyone wants people to have abortions.. it’s taking away that right that liberals don’t like. Liberals don’t sit around thinking about abortion all day, they don’t see pictures of aborted fetus’ and feel heartless.. they just see the bigger picture.. IMO. Abortion is something that will always effect the mother and it is a pain she will always live with. It’s not a choice people take lightly.

Jean-Luc said:
In short, Religion and Politics are poor bedfellows.

True, yet I believe a huge problem in this nation, from all sides, is Biblical illiteracy. Both sides claim that Jesus is on their side, yet any verse that doesn’t agree with their personal own world-view, both sides try to minimalize it or outright reject. No one can have it both ways, left or right.

Snowspot said:
It’s not a choice people take lightly.

Why not choose life? By far the majority of abortions are a lifestyle choice, i.e.- I got pregnant by a deadbeat, i don’t want a child, etc.

Dsiscokid said:
Why not choose life? By far the majority of abortions are a lifestyle choice, i.e.- I got pregnant by a deadbeat, i don’t want a child, etc.

I have never been in that position, so I don’t know.. but I can understand someone having an abortion because having a child will ruin their life. Then again, I don’t understand why a person wouldn’t just put the child up for adoption either.

Like I said, I don’t “support” it in that I don’t like it.. but I feel it’s a choice that should never be taken away, I can’t really explain why, maybe that if that’s taken away, who knows what else the government will try to regulate on a man/woman, it’s a slippery, and frankly, scary slope.

Snowspot said:
Liberals don’t sit around thinking about abortion all day, they don’t see pictures of aborted fetus’ and feel heartless.. they just see the bigger picture.. IMO

What is the “bigger picture”?

Ladies and Gentlemen if you were ever wonderiong what they look like and sound like, this is a Republican.

Snowspot said:
maybe that if that’s taken away, who knows what else the government will try to regulate on a man/woman, it’s a slippery, and frankly, scary slope.

The life of that un-born child never had a choice. I’m not trying to be hateful or trying to score political points, but if any civilization considers the death of a baby a choice, then GOD help us all…..

Dsiscokid said:
What is the “bigger picture”?

The bigger picture is that whether you want it or not, abortions will happen and the world will do what it wants, regardless of a stupid law.

BlueBunny said:
AGREED! THIS IS WHY THEY SHOULD STAY SEPARATE!

Sadly, the majority of politicians bow at the altar of Humanism, making themselves gods and kings in their own minds, on BOTH sides

Dsiscokid said:
The life of that un-born child never had a choice. I’m not trying to be hateful or trying to score political points, but if any civilization considers the death of a baby a choice, then GOD help us all…..

Unborn children can’t think, they have no memories. We fear death because we fear the loss of ourselves, of our memories. The unborn child does not even know it exists.

Many other countries allow abortions, so you really aren’t the first person to have your point of view. In the end though, religion doesn’t matter, it’s what humanity wants that matters and most humans do not view abortion as murder.

Jean-Luc said:
As a right-leaning guy, I agree with you totally here, but I wouldn’t say that either conservatives or liberals have a monopoly on Jesus’s teachings. There are fundamentally un-Christian morals central to both movements.

It does bother me to see many conservatives eager to cut off help to the poor (and by poor here, I mean those who are poor through no fault of their own), when Jesus spoke so often about taking care of them, just as it bothers me to see liberals eager to champion the mass killing of the unborn (excepting, of course, cases of rape, incest, or where the mother’s health would be in jeopardy.)

In short, Religion and Politics are poor bedfellows.

Both movements have been co-opted by the extremes. I’m not in favor of abortion, but I think that it has nothing to do with me since it’s not my body. I like your segment on the poor. I find it disturbing that the deserving poor are always the first ones whose support is cut. You also make a good point on religion and politics. In that same vein those who try to interject religion into politics have no room to denounce sharia (if they actually had any idea what sharia was).

Snowspot said:
The bigger picture is that whether you want it or not, abortions will happen and the world will do what it wants, regardless of a stupid law.

Sad but true, but should the law of the land “legalize” what you know deep down in your heart is murder?

Like I said though, I think abortion is the last thing someone should ever do. It’s not something anyone takes likely and it’s not a “lifestyle” choice. I will say that probably a lot of disgusting people get abortions because they have a lot of sex… but I hope those people know they will never meet their children.

Dsiscokid said:
The life of that un-born child never had a choice

SOME CHILDREN BORN DON’T HAVE A CHOICE EITHER!

Dsiscokid said:
Sadly, the majority of politicians bow at the altar of Humanism, making themselves gods and kings in their own minds, on BOTH sides

I am a humanist too and I don’t think you give enough credit to humanity. Just look at your computer, humans made that over thousands of years, passing down notes through generations on how to make things, create electricity, create binary code, create computers, invent broadband, satellites… I mean, it’s mind-boggling.

We have done so much, why should we not be in charge of our destiny? It is humans who make the world go round, god seems to be relegated to natural disasters and miracles, or so his followers would have us believe. There is no proof of god, there sure is proof of humans though, which is why my morality is based on the needs of humans and not the needs of a being that has decided to hide from humanity.

Snowspot said:
it’s what humanity wants that matters and most humans do not view abortion as murder.

But God does…..

Gen. 4:10 – “And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground.”

Leviticus 18:21
And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.

In the Bible, children that were “passed through the fire” were given as sacrifices to false gods. Check out Exodus 1 or Matt. 2 to see what Government- sanctioned infanticide looks like.

BlueBunny said:
SOME CHILDREN BORN DON’T HAVE A CHOICE EITHER!

THE ONE’S NEVER BORN NEVER DO!

Dsiscokid said:
THE ONE’S NEVER BORN NEVER DO!

You’re just going to have to get over that they die… sort of like a little kid realizes their parents will die. It’s just going to happen, you’re never going to stop it.. but you can live by example and encourage what you believe. That’s what I do anyway :P

Snowspot said:
I mean, it’s mind-boggling

Where did all those humans come from?

Snowspot said:
It is humans who make the world go round

Never met a human that could do that

Snowspot said:
There is no proof of god

Look in the mirror. He created you

Snowspot said:
which is why my morality is based on the needs of humans and not the needs of a being that has decided to hide from humanity.

God is not “hiding” from anyone, my friend

Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Phillipians 2:5-11

Please take time a meditate on these verses……

Raygun said:
When Maher calls Sarah Palin a dumb twat, it was part of a joke in a monologue. When he called the Quaran a hate filled book, it was part of a serious discussion. She isn’t being funny or free of criticism, because she is part of a serious segment. Although I can understand how watching Glenn Beck would make you unable to see a difference between a joke and serious discussion.

I can understand how having your head so far up your own behind would make you unable to recognize sarcasm.

Dsiscokid said:
Why not choose life? By far the majority of abortions are a lifestyle choice, i.e.- I got pregnant by a deadbeat, i don’t want a child, etc.

sorry to interject but me personally I find it hard not to support abortion or even just adoption for gay parents when 80% of the prison population were once in the fostercare system.

sarainitaly said:
I can understand how having your head so far up your own behind would make you unable to recognize sarcasm.

You were making a point and I was calling that point nonsense. That’s how it works.

Nobody cares what Victoria Jackson thinks.

Whether we share religious views or not, free-minded individuals will view statements like Jackson’s as being reflective of hate. That being said, the question remains: does Jackson’s hate stem from her firm beliefs in The Word, or is it a form of manipulating her faith into a rationale of sorts for her innate hatred for certain lifestyles?

http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2011/03/victoria-jackson-the-bible-made-me-do-it/

Hey Vicky, you don’t like what you’re watching? Pick up your remote and change the channel.
That’s what most people do when your pasty face and annoying voice appear on the screen.

Once again we see the direct correlation between the extent of a religion’s orthodoxy and the magnitude of its intolerance of those who do not share their tenets, politics, or lifestyle choices.

Jean-Luc said:
There are fundamentally un-Christian morals central to both movements.

It does bother me to see many conservatives eager to cut off help to the poor (and by poor here, I mean those who are poor through no fault of their own), when Jesus spoke so often about taking care of them…………………

That’s a perversion of Jesus’ words. He never said for Caesar to FORCE others to help those Caesar deemed deserving, by confiscation of their property and the fruits of their labor. EVERYTHING Jesus taught was in relation to INDIVIDUAL choice and willful assistance to those in need. Otherwise, the notion of benevolence is phony, and just another excuse to rape and pillage.

You are making the false claim that Conservatives are “eager to cut off help to the poor” and nothing is further from the truth. Statistically, Conservatives willingly give an overwhelmingly majority to the poor as compared to self-serving Liberals who delude themselves into thinking it noble to talk the talk but not walk the walk.

Stop assuming that government is the proper vehicle for benevolence. Confiscation and redistribution is NEVER instructed by Jesus’ words, and is the worst, least effective, and most corrupt and fraudulent substitute for genuine love, caring, and giving.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I’m not in favor of abortion, but I think that it has nothing to do with me since it’s not my body.

If someone were intent on murdering YOU, would you want me to use your cop-out and “think that it has nothing to do with me since it’s not my body?”

Davo said:
That’s a perversion of Jesus’ words. He never said for Caesar to FORCE others to help those Caesar deemed deserving, by confiscation of their property and the fruits of their labor. EVERYTHING Jesus taught was in relation to INDIVIDUAL choice and willful assistance to those in need. Otherwise, the notion of benevolence is phony, and just another excuse to rape and pillage.

You are making the false claim that Conservatives are “eager to cut off help to the poor” and nothing is further from the truth. Statistically, Conservatives willingly give an overwhelmingly majority to the poor as compared to self-serving Liberals who delude themselves into thinking it noble to talk the talk but not walk the walk.

Stop assuming that government is the proper vehicle for benevolence. Confiscation and redistribution is NEVER instructed by Jesus’ words, and is the worst, least effective, and most corrupt and fraudulent substitute for genuine love, caring, and giving.

I actually think you stated something true. Our American nativity was fundamentally limited. We have no inspiring “liberté, égalité, fraternité” moment at birth, no “Tierra y Libertad”, not even a “Мир, хлеб и земля”. The American Revolution was simply not a revolution, but merely a political evolution. Yet, there is an American Revolution which did not begin until after our separation, commencing with the Bill of Rights, growing and maturing under Jacksonian Democracy, finding new purpose in the Emancipation Proclamation, nurtured under the New Deal, the New Frontier, the Great Society. All defined the nature of the American government and the relationship of the government to the governed. The English, lacking a written Constitution, would embrace all as part of their living Constitution, as do we. And, while your view of this true American Exceptionalism may be greatly limited, I do agree with your view that the government is not the bestower of benevolence. It is however, the monitor which always strives to give us all a level playing field.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
The American Revolution was simply not a revolution, but merely a political evolution. Yet, there is an American Revolution which did not begin until after our separation, commencing with the Bill of Rights, growing and maturing under Jacksonian Democracy, finding new purpose in the Emancipation Proclamation, nurtured under the New Deal, the New Frontier, the Great Society. All defined the nature of the American government and the relationship of the government to the governed. The English, lacking a written Constitution, would embrace all as part of their living Constitution, as do we.

More perversion, Joker, but this time of our founding. America was founded in revolution against oppressive tyranny denying individual rights to self determination. Liberals are anti-American in that the agenda is to restore oppressive tyranny under the guise of “help.”

A “living Constitution” that evolves is no constitution at all, in fact. Liberals need the rubbery definition in order to circumvent the law and affect the changes back to dictatorial government you find preferable to liberty. And Liberals ALWAYS find it impossible to comprehend the difference between equality (the level playing field) and uniformity, the drone-like lives of serfs as promoted by Liberal elitists and fallen for by the gullible.

Raygun said:
You were making a point and I was calling that point nonsense. That’s how it works.

Yes, and you completely missed the point, which is why you called it nonsense. try to keep up.

Dsiscokid said:
Do you believe the Bible is the Word of God?

The bible is the translation of a transcription of parables passed down by word of mouth for generations before they were ever written down.

Try this experiment… get a guy that speaks ancient sumerian to recite from memory all the books of the bible to a room full of people that speak both sumerian and akkadian, then have that room of people write it all down in akkadian cuniforms. Now have someone that speaks/reads akkadian and aramaic translate and write it down in aramaic script. Now have someone that speaks/reads aramaic and greek translate it all and write it all down in greek. Then have a couple people that speak/read greek and english translate it all and write it down in english. Finally, take the result and see how close it comes to the KJV and NIV.

Only a fool blindly believes modern bibles retain anything close to their original meanings.
At least L.Ron Hubbard thought it out a lttle further than did the apostle exploiters.

Davo says:
March 23, 2011 at 6:57 am
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The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I’m not in favor of abortion, but I think that it has nothing to do with me since it’s not my body.

If someone were intent on murdering YOU, would you want me to use your cop-out and “think that it has nothing to do with me since it’s not my body?”

Hey, it’s not your body. You must be a man.
The great cop-out is with men. Take a look around the world, it isn’t exactly women totally failing children now, is it?

sarainitaly says:
March 22, 2011 at 4:40 pm sarainitaly(Quote)
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kvon said:
Again, please consult an online translator if need be, but I can’t understand you. Are you talking about the National Organization of Women?

you can’t understand me, and you tell me to consult an online translator? isn’t it you with the problem?

Yes, NOW, the National Organization of Women. The ones who have yet to condemn his remarks.

“Maher is getting shit from all over the spectrum deservedly,” from Conservative sites, Women’s Magazine and Women’s Media Center. Who on the Left is giving him sh*t?

Run along now, some right-wing male wants to call you useless, take away your rights, and oh, thinks you are a lesser being because you are a female, honey.
Attacking feminists won’t make you a happier human being, dearie. I love it when confused, insecure right-wing females take their problems out on feminists, it’s kind of funny. Not feminists’ fault you have no self-esteem.

Biscuit said:
Hey, it’s not your body. You must be a man.
The great cop-out is with men. Take a look around the world, it isn’t exactly women totally failing children now, is it?

It’s not your body either……………..it’s someone else’s. You must be a woman.

Dsiscokid says:
March 22, 2011 at 7:34 pm Dsiscokid(Quote)
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Snowspot said:
It’s not a choice people take lightly.

Why not choose life? By far the majority of abortions are a lifestyle choice, i.e.- I got pregnant by a deadbeat, i don’t want a child, etc.

You must be a male. A dumb, sexist male. A dumb, sexist, entitled male. Again, not women failing children now, huh?
Grow up.

THE REAL ROYAL KING said:
So, you’re saying she’s a conservative comedian and being treated unfairly? Have you considered the possibility she is simply not funny? I’ve yet to hear a funny conservative comedian, much as I have yet to see a conservative painter who could paint or a conservative actor who could act. I’d enjoy seeing such people some day.

I suggest you watch RED EYE on Fox News. I’m a liberal, and these guys crack me up. Like you, I generally think conservatives just aren’t funny. They seem like they’re trying to hard or something, because really they just don’t have a sense of humor. They’re tight-assed and angry all the time.

As for Victoria Jackson, she wasn’t trying to be funny. She’s just plain stupid.

Davo said:
More perversion, Joker, but this time of our founding. America was founded in revolution against oppressive tyranny denying individual rights to self determination. Liberals are anti-American in that the agenda is to restore oppressive tyranny under the guise of “help.”

A “living Constitution” that evolves is no constitution at all, in fact. Liberals need the rubbery definition in order to circumvent the law and affect the changes back to dictatorial government you find preferable to liberty. And Liberals ALWAYS find it impossible to comprehend the difference between equality (the level playing field) and uniformity, the drone-like lives of serfs as promoted by Liberal elitists and fallen for by the gullible.

Actually, the person you’re responding to is correct. It wasn’t a real revolution. The average American at that time had nothing invested in it, and nothing to gain from it. The American Revolution was about a bunch of high-brow landed aristocrats wanting their own country to run. All that changed for the general population was who was collecting the taxes. They soldiers were hired by the landed gentry of the time, and the average person went on living as before as the war went on. The English really didn’t even put up much of a fight.

The first real revolution in history is the French Revolution. These were people living under the direct rule of a king and decided they’d had enough.

Davo said:
That’s a perversion of Jesus’ words. He never said for Caesar to FORCE others to help those Caesar deemed deserving, by confiscation of their property and the fruits of their labor. EVERYTHING Jesus taught was in relation to INDIVIDUAL choice and willful assistance to those in need. Otherwise, the notion of benevolence is phony, and just another excuse to rape and pillage.

You are making the false claim that Conservatives are “eager to cut off help to the poor” and nothing is further from the truth. Statistically, Conservatives willingly give an overwhelmingly majority to the poor as compared to self-serving Liberals who delude themselves into thinking it noble to talk the talk but not walk the walk.

Stop assuming that government is the proper vehicle for benevolence. Confiscation and redistribution is NEVER instructed by Jesus’ words, and is the worst, least effective, and most corrupt and fraudulent substitute for genuine love, caring, and giving.

I guarentee you’ve twisted the words “love thy enemy” to mean something completely different. How else could you fuse your ridiculous political views with the bible?

My God, she looks like Aunt JeBoZo. I’m reminded of an old Cheech and Chong skit wherein it was written: “I used to be all fucked up on drugs now I’m all fucked up on the Lord.”