This has been the favorite tactic of the right since Obama got elected.

Keep moving right until the left moves into the middle.

Republicans support most of the essentials of communism.  From the all-out authoritarianism, to the wars of imperialism, to the torture, to the government spying, to the history re-writes, to the party-run mass media outlets telling them when and where to stage demonstrations in support of their leaders…

Liberals, on the other hand reject this stuff outright.  There’s no way to get there from here.

Here’s wiki’s definition of communism, which is good enough for these purposes:

“Communism is a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of a classless, moneyless, stateless and revolutionary socialist society structured upon common ownership of the means of production.”

Obviously, Republicans in general have no objection to classes or money and they strongly oppose common ownership of the means of production.

The observation that Republicans “support most of the essentials of communism” is not supported by the facts.

That definition is why it looks good on paper, but not in use because of the Totalitarian/Fascist aspects that ALWAYS get added to the Communist mix, which is where all those items Korean Trevor alluded to come into play. There never has been a Communist state attempted that wasn’t just a Totalitarian or Fascist state in disguise.

I’m Canadian,and I remember this @sshole blasting us last year, after all the times we’ve sided with the U.S.A. in the last hundred years, for the sake of friendship,and we still are.We got coffins coming home too Greg,you little weasel,you little rat.And the only reason we have coffins coming back home is because we got your back,you fu….moron.You pathetic little twit.                                                                                            
 
Greg Gutfeld sucks hairy balls if you ask me.

They should rename this program “The Five Retards,” so that the FOX News audience will know that the show is too intellectually challenging for them.

The Five makes Glenn Beck look like Einstein. Sad part is they are all smart people, but for some reason they’ve decided to stoop to the lowest denominator and host juvenile segments that are painful to watch. I give this show one more year, before it’s replaced by… HERMAN CAIN

*drinks water*

Like nearly ALL of the political philosophies are GREAT on paper but the HUMAN factor gets in the way. Its fun to talk about Communism and socialism as “things that didnt work” but the truth is, democracy hasnt been tested long enough to determine how GREAT it is and CAPITALISM has always been seen as a horrible socio-political philosophy simply because of the “human factor”. I would go on and on, but I know most of the people on this site have spent less than a picosecond reading Hobbes or Locke, Marx etc.. and will want to start calling names and saying some childish form of ‘I know you are but what am I”. Bottom line is, she is right… and so long as we live “happily” in a democracy as WE have determined it to be, we cant say much because only a fool wouldnt recognize that currently “our system” is getting TESTED. MONEY has become the powerseed in the USA.. the MORE you have THE MORE you raise, the better things can be for you. Where we are today is light-years from where we started.

Yes, it’s the opposite of the last hundred years.

You have to keep in mind that LyingTrevor is an insane person.

How would FOX fill 24 hours of airtime if it wasn’t for canned outrage?

Of course it’s supported by the facts. And it already happened. All Republicans need to do is replace the word COMMUNISM with the word PATRIOTISM or CAPITALISM, and you will support it 100%. That’s what happened under Bush in the case of fascism. They know you don’t have the option of thinking for yourself.

Good point.

Fox News lacking content digs up the women’s chat and bi*ch about an irrelevant detail, to make up a story, which is then astutely echoed by the Fox’ second chamber — Mediaite.
Bravo!

“Capitalism didn’t kill 100 million people”Actually, yes it did. About 200 million people died in wars and genocides in the 20th century. About 100 million were basically killed by communism. Stalin’s purges, the Holodomor, the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, the Khmer Rouge, etc. What killd the other 100 million?Broadly speaking – capitalism.The Belgian Congo (when the Belgians brutally worked millions of Africans to death harvesting rubber for the Belgians to increase their profits), Imperialist conquests such as the American occupation of the Philippines after 1898 that killed about 200,000 people, the clash of Imperialist powers that was the First World War and then the Second World War (not to mention the Great Depression imbetween). The Nationalists in China under Chiang-Kai-Shek killed millions of people before the communists took over under Mao. Anti-communist purges in Indonesia in the 1960s killed hundreds of thousands, then such racist wars as the Rwandan genocide and the genocide in Darfur killed millions.What’s that I hear? But that wasn’t capitalism! That was imperialism and fascism and despotism! It’s not like the western world today!The last part of that is true, the US, Europe and other western countries today are a healthy mix of capitalism and democratic socialism, which is what makes them so prosperous and their governments and people’s relatively docile when it comes to waging stupid, greed-driven wars. But make no mistake, corporations in America can’t force millions of people to work to the death only because government regulators and unions stand in their way. Though the fact that some 50,000 Americans die each year because of corruption in the healthcare industry is certainty a vestige of the barbaric, purely profit-driven system that used to rule the country (slavery anyone?) I’m certainly not a communist, though I’d probably consider myself left-leaning. We need safety and labor and environmental regulations for good reasons. They complement well a free-market system where individuals can make most (but not all) decisiosn about how they conduct their business.Also, it’s not true that the world’s remaining communist countries are more unequal than the US. China and Venezuela are both in the same Gini coefficient index (a measure of inequality) category, as can be seen here-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficientI’m actually dissapointed in ‘The Five’. I originally thought it was a relatively fair-show by Fox News standards, but they’re quickly becoming as stupid and inaccurate as ‘Fox and Friends’.Merry Christmas everyone

“Capitalism didn’t kill 100 million people”Actually, yes it did. About 200 million people died in wars and genocides in the 20th century. About 100 million were basically killed by communism. Stalin’s purges, the Holodomor, the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, the Khmer Rouge, etc. What killd the other 100 million?Broadly speaking – capitalism.The Belgian Congo (when the Belgians brutally worked millions of Africans to death harvesting rubber for the Belgians to increase their profits), Imperialist conquests such as the American occupation of the Philippines after 1898 that killed about 200,000 people, the clash of Imperialist powers that was the First World War and then the Second World War (not to mention the Great Depression imbetween). The Nationalists in China under Chiang-Kai-Shek killed millions of people before the communists took over under Mao. Anti-communist purges in Indonesia in the 1960s killed hundreds of thousands, then such racist wars as the Rwandan genocide and the genocide in Darfur killed millions.What’s that I hear? But that wasn’t capitalism! That was imperialism and fascism and despotism! It’s not like the western world today!The last part of that is true, the US, Europe and other western countries today are a healthy mix of capitalism and democratic socialism, which is what makes them so prosperous and their governments and people’s relatively docile when it comes to waging stupid, greed-driven wars. But make no mistake, corporations in America can’t force millions of people to work to the death only because government regulators and unions stand in their way. Though the fact that some 50,000 Americans die each year because of corruption in the healthcare industry is certainty a vestige of the barbaric, purely profit-driven system that used to rule the country (slavery anyone?) I’m certainly not a communist, though I’d probably consider myself left-leaning. We need safety and labor and environmental regulations for good reasons. They complement well a free-market system where individuals can make most (but not all) decisiosn about how they conduct their business.

Well lets see, you’ve misrepresented what Whoopi said and then turned around and misrepresented what The Five said.  Were you on the phone to the DNC while this segment was playing?

That is so funny because it is so obviously untrue.  No one has been moving to the right.  Bill Clinton is WAY to the right compared to Obama.  The media talking heads and Dems have moved drastically to the left in the past half a dozen years to link up with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi, and more recently, Obama.   Perhaps you need to q-tip both ears instead of just one, you seem to be out of balance.

Are “they” little green men in rubber suits?  Perhaps this is news to you, but conservatives are for personal freedom.  Communists and socialists are against it.  

You’re right about conservatives, but there’s no such thing as a conservative Republican.

Republicans want to regulate people’s sexual relationships, they want to combine religion and law, they want the government to spy on the people, they promote government secrecy, they permit the government to torture other human beings, they don’t support the concept of habeas corpus.

There is no Republican anywhere who supports personal freedom in any way whatsoever (with a couple of conditional exceptions like Ron Paul and Bob Barr).

Too bad Gutfield and the other 3 right wing hacks on The Five missed out on the 1950′s and McCarthyism. They were born 60 years too late to destroy people’s lives. Too bad, so sad. Fox News should start their next meme : Bring back HUAC !

You should change your handle to “CopyPaste” since little actual original reasoning seems to be involved.

What you write is more true about yourself than 100 years of political history.

The reason you lied is because you are a Republican, and all Republicans are systematically trained to reject the truth.

Why do you even write anything. Even a 6 year old doesn’t dole out morality according to political affiliation.

Hard to imagine a less nuance take on history. Your kids probably think your garage is made of left over comet material.

All I do is tell the truth. You have to remember that you are a Republican, and all Republicans are systematically trained to reject the truth.

We’ve gotten over Goldberg’s weird interruption of an interview she presumably found boring by imitating a fart like in 2nd grade. What we haven’t gotten over is how an intractable moron gets applause from any audience not directly shipped in from a mental institution.

Those are the essentials of dictatorship. That dictatorship may call itself communist or capitalist. The extreme far left and right are excuses for dictatorship, and nothing more than that.

The “far left” has never existed in the united states and never will. The far right, on the other hand, cannot be differentiated from the Republican Party.

People get confused because we’re talking about two different political spectra. After the Eleventh of September, the Republican Party completely abandoned the traditional America political spectrum (and the Constitution) and opted for European fascism. Democrats, for the most part, still represent American values.

You are so over the top full of crap that I have to wonder if this is yet another alias of Tommy Christopher and/or Royal Emperor.

Yeah, show me any instance of liberals going around calling for the government to scale back civil rights and liberties. Show me any evidence that liberals support authoritarianism in any form whatsoever. You cant. In the case of Republicans, however, it’s all about authoritarianism. Republicans do not have the ability to think for themselves.

The Five should be renamed the The Phony Five.

or the Fallacious Five

that’s ridiculous…and wrong

I had to do a double take there….did you really say “Bob Barr”?

That’s called an unforced error.

I was with you up to that point. I did a spit take. Thanks, now I have to clean pepsi off my monitor.

Republicans practice situational politics. They say whatever they think will get the base excited and can turn on a rhetorical dime if there’s enough payoff coming their way.

You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about.

Obama has given in to every GOP compromise.

They know what their audience(conservatives) likes.

“Hollywood libtards are so crazyyyyy!”

This is the first time I’ve ever seen a clip of “The Five”.  I do watch the View regularly though.  Whoopi wasn’t saying “fingers crossed” let’s hope communism works.  She was saying “fingers crossed” that good will come out of North Korea now that the dictator is gone, and the son, who was educated in a non-Communist country, might not be as radical as his father.  This dude on the right is absolutely not right when he is talking about the conversation.  It is obvious he did not actually watch the show, or the entire conversation, and he only listened to what his friends at Fox News put together for him.  Just despicable.  Context does matter.  That other guy was right for defending Whoopi.  She spoke AGAINST communism and was actually in the same mindset as these conservatives.  One of them said “a utopian society ends in bloodshed” and that’s exactly what Whoopi was saying.  In a utopian society communism would work, but we are humans and because of that it will never work.  This is why I will not watch Fox News.  They distort everything.

how is she a moron?  she was actually agreeing with the Five, whoever they are (i have never seen that show before) by saying a utopian principle cannot work with humans because of our differences, our beliefs, and our inherent faults.

Insane?  4 of “The Five” are the insane ones!  They are taking someone’s statements, COMPLETELY out of context.  And then arguing that she is saying the opposite of what she’s saying, when in fact, what she is saying is what THEY believe!  And then, when the one sane person clarifies her statement, they all attack him.  It’s just crazy.

If Obama gets re-elected you’ll have all the evidence that you need that liberals are just as comfortable with authoritarianism as right-wingers.

You REALLY need to turn the channel.

Looks great on PAPER, to bad in practice it’s a complete lie!!

Show us an instance of that being fact?

Keep watching, your bound to learn something.

The World Health Organization, a couple of years ago, gave us what they called, a definitive breakdown of a list of countries with the best health care systems, and of course, the U.S. was way down the list according to their analysis. A subsequent investigation into their analysis tells us, it was faulty and incorrect but, that doesn’t stop those who wish to use it as an argument. I see the same faulty assumptions in your remarks.

You’re confusing Democratic with liberal.

Did you forget that Canadians are supposed to be more kind and gentle than those damn Yankees?

Perhaps not, since Canadians gave the world the most violent game in the world: Hockey.

Very fair point

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No time for BS…seriously.

You have no idea what you are talking about.  Clinton and Obama are moderates.