Dr. Ben Carson went on CNN Tuesday to defend Donald Trump‘s remarks about committing sexual assault as the sort of banter that was ubiquitous, and he maintained that Trump’s comments were really unremarkable.
When CNN’s Brianna Keilar said she did not think such conversations were typical, Carson said, “I’m surprised you haven’t heard that. I really am.”
Carson repeated the Trump campaign talking point that these words constituted “locker room talk,” and said that Trump was a different person 11 years ago than he is now. “He was a billionaire playboy,” Carson explained.
When Keilar challenged him on the “locker room” gloss, Carson responded, “Call it whatever you need to call it to make it feel good to you.” Carson went on to say that he been in several contexts where people had spoken about their “sexual conquests” and men had pretended to be “Casanova.” It was, he said, “immature,” but it was also common.
“That kind of banter goes around all time. Is it the right kind of thing to do? Absolutely not,” he said.
When Keilar said she — and many others — had not heard that kind of talk, Carson rebutted: “Maybe that’s the problem.”
Watch the exchange above, via CNN.
Sam Reisman (@thericeman) is a staff editor at Mediaite.
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