If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. I do agree that it can be a sensitive subject. I’ve personally did 3 tours in Iraq as a US Marine. It is a sensitive subject, yet it is a practice that is not new. I respect a Gold Star mother’s opinion, but a private company should be able to create whatever they want. Let the free market settle the issue. Start a boycott.

TC: “n the end, this is a free country. Karen Meredith has every right to be offended by this game, and gamers have the right to push back. It would be nice if they, and Electronic Arts, could figure out a way to do that without mocking, or trivializing, her legitimate concerns.”

Remember that when discussing other current events as well.

Pretty good points except for the tangent into cowboys & indians. That’s racist? Good lord. How about whiffle ball? Can my kid play that or is it racist too?

Money , honey .

More Liberty said:
If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. I do agree that it can be a sensitive subject. I’ve personally did 3 tours in Iraq as a US Marine. It is a sensitive subject, yet it is a practice that is not new. I respect a Gold Star mother’s opinion, but a private company should be able to create whatever they want. Let the free market settle the issue. Start a boycott.

Does that beg the point, however? Should a news organization, even a shameless shill news organization like FOX, be promoting this game with free advertisement?

AT FOX:

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“cowboys & indians. That’s racist? Can my kid play that…?” lonstar77

Your kid can play cowboys and Native Americans with the proviso that the Native American always win.

King, perhaps the game is like the ground zero mosque. It’s legal, but that doesn’t mean it’s in good taste.

The Real Royal King said:
Does that beg the point, however? Should a news organization, even a shameless shill news organization like FOX, be promoting this game with free advertisement?

Why not? No one was complaining about “free advertising” when GMC, Toyota or Chrysler are in the news for crappy cars. I wouln’t say that the reporting done by fox was beneficial to the MOD game.

writer said:
King, perhaps the game is like the ground zero mosque. It’s legal, but that doesn’t mean it’s in good taste.

That analogy needs more than a bit of work. Might I suggest you just scrap it and talk about Wright, Ayers and Farrakhan? Again.

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More Liberty said:
I wouln’t say that the reporting done by fox was beneficial to the MOD game.

I would have to go with you on that point, alone. I doubt the Fox Geezers play video games.

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King, since those people you mentioned aren’t present, I don’t think it would be fair to comment.

“Call of Duty 4″ has a level called “Shock and Awe” where marines execute a blitzkrieg attack on an unnamed Middle Eastern country. Conflict: Desert Storm is a game set in the 1991 Iraq war, as is it’s sequel, Conflict Desert Storm 2: Back to Bahgdad. “Six Days in Fallujah” is a video game based on the American victory in Fallujah in 2004 that is having difficulty getting published because of antiwar critics in Japan, not outrage here in America. There are more than a dozen video games set in the Vietnam conflict, including several where players can play as Viet Cong soldiers, notably “Viet Cong 2″ where the player fights as a Viet Cong recruit during the Tet Offensive. To put it in perspective, for every 1 American killed in Afghanistan more than 50 were killed in Vietnam. Millions of t-shirts, bumper stickers, and other items emblazoned with slogans glorifying the war in Afghanistan have been sold. She’s not complaining about that stuff. While a t-shirt with “Operation Enduring Freedom” on it might not be offensive to her, it might not sit too well with the mother of a dead Afghani.

I think all of this stuff is in questionable taste, but it’s total hypocrisy to come down on this game and ignore all of the other efforts to profit from war. At the end of the day, this game is no more or less based on real people than a game set in WW2 or Vietnam. That her outrage is directed ONLY at a game where you can play as a Taliban soldiier is more offensive than the game itself.

The Real Royal King said:
I would have to go with you on that point, alone. I doubt the Fox Geezers play video games. AT FOX: THE BREITBARTING BEGINSWITH FOX & FRIENDSAND CONTINUES ALL DAYUNTIL VAN SUSTEREN ENDS.

You’d be surprised. I play video games and the people I play with are mostly over 30 and tend to be mostly conservative in their political views. One of the guys I play Call of Duty 4 with is a retired Marine sergeant, lifelong Republican, black, fervently opposed to the Obama administration, and pretty good at the game too.

The Real Royal King said:
I would have to go with you on that point, alone. I doubt the Fox Geezers play video games. AT FOX: THE BREITBARTING BEGINSWITH FOX & FRIENDSAND CONTINUES ALL DAYUNTIL VAN SUSTEREN ENDS.

CNN wasn’t far behind, though — its average audience was 63. MSNBC was a perky 59.

WOW! king, FNC sure is getting it ass kicked by those young whipper snappers at msNBC.

Good god, just don’t buy the damn game then

It is a video game

I think anyone who watches much cable news is Barcolounger bound. You’d have to be very fond of inactivity, boredom and bone-idleness.

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The Real Royal King said:
I think anyone who watches much cable news is Barcolounger bound. You’d have to be very fond of inactivity, boredom and bone-idleness. AT FOX: THE BREITBARTING BEGINSWITH FOX & FRIENDSAND CONTINUES ALL DAYUNTIL VAN SUSTEREN ENDS.

Must suck since you seem to not get enough FNC. And heaven forbid all that trolling you do at that site run by that guy called Koldys.

To know everything that’s said on Fox, the King must be in that 1% of viewers he’s always talking about.

Whilst I have to agree with the gamers, that people need to understand that this is a game, I can understand with those who could find this offensive. There is a valid argument in question within this article and that is “Are Video Games Art”? In my belief of course they are. Conflict breeds Art. But, gaming is more than just art it is interactive, and hence forth it is subject to human choices, and; if I would be so bold, morality.
The real question is here is “Why would you want to be Taliban?” All of us have our dark parts, but would people say it would be “Fun” to play Taliban? , The answer is “Yes, they certainly would.” I can also guarantee that upon the release of this game, more radical Muslims may just end up playing video games, preparing for their glorious, and stupid martyrdom and later decide to join the fray. On the other side, many more Americans and Europeans may end up taking arms against these Wacko’s.
Either way this game will set up another false reality that can lead to escapism, and maybe cause recruitment to go up. Is it bad, no. It’s neutral. The thing is though is with it invoking a false reality of war, and extremist martyrs it sets up a sort of glorification of each view. Man, I would hope that we would just play the video game then take up arms and kill each other, but alas as long as this idea of Islam (Which means Submit) continues, then we will be forced to do one or the other, submit, or fight for our freedoms. This doesn’t just go for the Muslim mindset, it goes for any mindset that wants to rule and take away your freedom because of it’s own selfish gain.

C.S. Lewis said it best,
“Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.”

There is no way to get true peace, without finding true peace of mind first.

“Each individual, atheist, religious or otherwise is entitled to make a choice of lifestyle, however everyone’s choices will have an effect on the World around us. Some will be selfish and help us die faster, while other choices may cause separation they will make us more stronger, and help us live longer, but all will have consequences. One has to weigh the consequences and the history to understand the judgments that go with those choices.”

This is kind of a tough one. It goes against the grain, but:

· Chess and other board games enhance leadership skills for warfare.
· Kittens or puppies at play are actually performing mock combat, training them for future survival.
· I’m sure that, with the right to bear arms, Americans exercising hunting or shooting skills were benefited with an advantage when called upon in World Wars I & II, Korea, Vietnam, etc.
· Computer games develop eye/hand coordination skills, sharpening citizens for modern electronic warfare
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Properly utilized, these skills may never be needed.

The Real Royal King said:
I think anyone who watches much cable news is Barcolounger bound.

Well I’d rather watch cable news as opposed to listening to Katie Couric talk about crap she knows nothing.

Perhaps the president should…support the Constitution…by issuing the courageous and innovative concept…that the manufacturers have the legal right to produce and distribute such a game.

We can then ask the Gold Star moms to run that up a flagpole and salute it…

I personally don’t like violent video games…but here’s a synopsis from ARS Technica…”true gamers”.

Somtimes, you just have to listen to the kids!

Game Review: Medal of Honor: Vanguard (Wii)

EA has been rocking the Nintendo Wii hard since launch, and they’ve shown no signs of letting up. From Madden at launch to SSX Blur and The Godfather: Blackhand Edition in the last weeks, my Wii has had an EA disk in it for most of its lifespan—in fact, I’m getting to the point where I may just have to rethink my opinion of the monolithic game factory. As such, I decided to take a leap and plunge into the world of Medal of Honor: Vanguard.

Because the excellent Call of Duty series has been satisfying my World War II cravings—I hadn’t touched a Medal of Honor game since the PlayStation—I was somewhat wary of jumping back into the rocky franchise. Unfortunately, Treyarch’s botched rush-job of Call of Duty 3 to the Wii left a bitter taste in my mouth and I hungered for more Nazi-killing mayhem. So when the time came to dig into EA’s latest Wii title Medal of Honor: Vanguard, I awaited the feast. Unfortunately, I’ve walked away hungry.

MOHV Don’t get me wrong, Medal of Honor: Vanguard isn’t a bad game. The single-player campaign is arguably the best FPS action you’ll be able to find on the Wii. But, considering the competition, that doesn’t really say all that much. The biggest downside to the single player I’ve noticed is that the entire game seems to be somewhat controlled. Whereas there action in CoD plays more like an unplanned documentary, the action in MoH seems decidedly more like that found in a feature film: it’s cinematic in a way that CoD isn’t, yet the action is more directed than CoD is. There’s a distinct lack of surprise and risk associated with playing through the game that I just feel is missing.

Unlike most of the other Wii games I’ve played—including SSX Blur—I found the controls a serious obstacle. The last time I played a Wii FPS was at launch, so it may be because my skills were lacking, but I found it very hard to adjust to the loose control of the game. While the grenade throwing via the Wii remote and the iron-sight control feels good, there are some serious issues with the usually-perfect nunchuck control. Consistently, the game would read my right flick of the nunchuck as a left flick, and I’d spin around instead of reload. Never having had a problem with this before, I feel as though there are some control issues that may not have been fully ironed out during testing—and these issues persisted after hours of play. The motion-based crouching has got to go, too: there’s nothing to be gained in flicking the nunchuck downward in order to crouch. With jumping, it makes sense and works well enough, but with crouch, it’s finicky and ultimately frustrating. Thankfully, you can deactivate some of the useless motion control and use the Z and C buttons to crouch/jump and the 2 button to reload. There couldn’t be any better proof that the gestures are inaccurate and thus unnecessary in this title than the fact that the game is instantly more playable when changing some of the gestures to buttons.

I was really looking forward to multiplayer. With Red Steel lacking multiplayer options, and it being nonexistent on COD3, I was left with only Super Monkey Ball’s Monkey Wars for my local split-screen FPS delights. Unfortunately, MOHV lacks one distinct necessity: bots. What fun could I possibly have playing capture the flag with one other person? I’m one of the few Wii owners who can live without online, but to omit bots essentially destroys the possibility for enjoying a long-standing session of local multiplayer. There’s simply no excuse.

I’m tempted to say that Medal of Honor: Vanguard has ruined EA’s near-flawless streak. The control issues are horrendous for a game made so far from launch, and there’s been plenty of mistakes made to learn from. Moreover, the multiplayer that would have been the saving grace is completely disappointing and frankly insulting. That said, it’s a fairly well-presented game, with both good graphics and a great soundtrack, that tells a good story and does so at a good pace. The only part of the game that isn’t always good is the gameplay; and that’s not the area the devs should have skimped on.

Ultimately, MoH:V covers semi-old ground in a barely competent way, standing out only by merit of the solid presentation and pacing. Despite what the game does right, though, it’s really hard for me to recommend even a rental unless you’re as absolutely starving for a new Wii FPS as I am. Alas, I’m left hungry for a good FPS game, and I’m sad that it apparently won’t be until Metroid that we see halfway-decent performance from the previously prophesized king of console-FPS machines.
Verdict: Skip
Price: $50 (shop for this title)

That’s what the kids look for…it is a game to them.

I’m personally glad that they don’t want more violence. They are just bored with the software that doesn’t allow them more interactive “actions” as well as teamwork that allow them to get to another level.

I’m personally getting way too old for this stuff…but you shouldn’t automatically lump kids or gamers into a group just because you get off on cool graphics.

Oh, sure, the manufacturers (in China) have the right to create any damned kind of game they want, and the idiots in the US have the rights to buy it, but what would you folks be saying if there were games with titles like: Gas the Jew, Catch the Slave, Hang the Coolie, Drown the Catholic, Burn the Heretic, Molest the Child, Electrocute the Liberal, Electrocute the Conservative, Electrocute the Libertarian?

The point is, there is good taste and there is making a profit. In all honesty, the two are NOT mutually exclusive.

It’s Murcuh!! – 2010.

pyrope said:
Gas the Jew, Catch the Slave, Hang the Coolie, Drown the Catholic, Burn the Heretic, Molest the Child, Electrocute the Liberal, Electrocute the Conservative, Electrocute the Libertarian?

I’m thinking that isn’t in the primary code….I could be wrong.

It’s not really code written that way….and free enterprise would stop that type of software from being profitable.

The rest is just a video game

Actually, there is a “rape the chick” scenario that I don’t like.

pyrope said:
he point is, there is good taste and there is making a profit. In all honesty, the two are NOT mutually exclusive.

Fair point!

lazzzlo said:
Actually, there is a “rape the chick” scenario that I don’t like.

How very crude and tasteless!

Perhaps the larger issue is that such “games” offer insight as to the changing values of our society. Are we descending into depravity and decadence like so many great cultures that no longer exist? I’m no Bible thumper–in fact, I’m agnostic these days–but I regret to say that the dream that was “America” is fading fast.

pyrope said:
Perhaps the larger issue is that such “games” offer insight as to the changing values of our society. Are we descending into depravity and decadence like so many great cultures that no longer exist?

While some outlaw types have always been held in high esteem, it generally wasn’t the sick ones. Segments of the culture seem to relish and encourage being as big a D-bag as you can get away with. Honor doesn’t seem to hold much sway anymore.

eso es verdad