Condi kicked her ass.

This is one very smart women who I wouldn’t mind seeing as President. I disagree with the cherry picking stuff but as well all know politicans never (any of them) seldom tell the entire truth about subjects such as this.

timzank said:
Condi kicked her ass.

Condi is a lady. She would “never” kick ass.

Ms. Rice is still having trouble digesting the reality, but it makes it no less real. The University of Texas once had a tremendous back, Earl Campbell. Earl has the misfortune of being drafted by the now defunct Houston Oilers, one of the worst teams in the history of professional football. The Oilers had one of the worst coaches in the history of professional football, Bum Phillips. Phillips’ entire coaching strategy was to put Campbell in for every offensive snap and give Campbell the ball on every snap. As a result, Campbell had a less than stellar career, and he is largely crippled today. Rice is Campbell. W is Phillips.

Couric is a media child and not a serious journalist. Ms Rice has more class than Couric could find the rest of her life.
Couric not intelligent enough to get one past Rice. Thats why Rice does Stanford and Couric does CBS tv. Ho,ho,ho,

BlackWidow said:
Condi is a lady. She would “never” kick ass.

Indeed. It was a very crude and coarse comment. Highly inappropriate.

BlackWidow said:
This is one very smart women who I wouldn’t mind seeing as President. I disagree with the cherry picking stuff but as well all know politicans never (any of them) seldom tell the entire truth about subjects such as this.

I’ve never seen or heard anything to suggest that Ms. Rice is particularly conservative or Republican. Nor, do I think she entertains any desire to be president. However, can you imagine a debate between Ms. Rice and the Drop Out Governor? Ms. Rice would have the Drop Out Governor for lunch. And, as opposed to a male opponent, Ms. Rice wouldn’t be compelled to treat the Drop Out Governor deferentially as a male would have to, as Biden had to do. It would be EOS – End of Sarah!

The Real Royal King said:
Ms. Rice is still having trouble digesting the reality, but it makes it no less real. The University of Texas once had a tremendous back, Earl Campbell. Earl has the misfortune of being drafted by the now defunct Houston Oilers, one of the worst teams in the history of professional football. The Oilers had one of the worst coaches in the history of professional football, Bum Phillips. Phillips’ entire coaching strategy was to put Campbell in for every offensive snap and give Campbell the ball on every snap. As a result, Campbell had a less than stellar career, and he is largely crippled today. Rice is Campbell. W is Phillips.

Perfect analysis. Rice and Powell were duped, used and abused. Powell had the good sense to get out after the first four. Why she stayed, still makes me scratch my head.

Couric should go back to reporting on the worlds oldest cat and the worlds biggest ball of string..As a serious reporter she is very lacking and makes herself look petty and stupid….

To believe that such an intelligent black woman was able to be ‘duped’ is racism, straight up.

The Real Royal King said:
Ms. Rice would have the Drop Out Governor for lunch

No doubt. I’m sure conservatives/teabaggers see Rice as a RINO. Intelligence is not one of their strong points. Here is a woman (Rice) not afraid of the media. Why? She has the knowledge, experience and intelligence to back her.

It’s always comical how Liberals, after they repeat their own idiotic lies numerous times, only succeed in fooling themselves.
Condi slices and dices the arrogant condescension right out of Couric. That is the danger of giving a silly, unearned,and political award to the undeserving….they actually begin to believe their own foolish hype. In a battle of wits, Couric was shown unarmed

She would make Obama look like the unexperienced dullard he really is…Dems just cant get enough of proving how utterly stupid they really are

That’s why the King glossed over the Couric interview, and came up with a hypothetical Rice/Palin debate.

writer said:
To believe that such an intelligent black woman was able to be ‘duped’ is racism, straight up.

Yeah so?

Condi was a willing LIAR in the run up to the illegal and immoral invasion. Why in the hell would anyone think she could be telling the truth now? Smart, tough, media savvy but still a LIAR and a willing war-monger.

ondrock said:
It’s always comical how Liberals, after they repeat their own idiotic lies numerous times, only succeed in fooling themselves.
Condi slices and dices the arrogant condescension right out of Couric. That is the danger of giving a silly, unearned,and political award to the undeserving….they actually begin to believe their own foolish hype. In a battle of wits, Couric was shown unarmed

Odd you should mention that. Especially since I don’t see anyone posting here lauding the Couric performance. It was, as always, mediocre. You really should think about the Talking Points given you before you start cutting and pasting.

writer said:
That’s why the King glossed over the Couric interview, and came up with a hypothetical Rice/Palin debate.

w_t_f said:
Yeah so?

In the context as yeah, I do believe they were used to add color. Although, I believe they are two highly intelligent people to be respected. Not because of color, because of their desire to be educated and concerned for their country. Unlike half wit, that has no concern to educate herself.

writer said:
To believe that such an intelligent black woman was able to be ‘duped’ is racism, straight up.

I meant to quote this one up there.

The Real Royal King said:
Indeed. It was a very crude and coarse comment. Highly inappropriate. I’ve never seen or heard anything to suggest that Ms. Rice is particularly conservative or Republican. Nor, do I think she entertains any desire to be president. However, can you imagine a debate between Ms. Rice and the Drop Out Governor? Ms. Rice would have the Drop Out Governor for lunch. And, as opposed to a male opponent, Ms. Rice wouldn’t be compelled to treat the Drop Out Governor deferentially as a male would have to, as Biden had to do. It would be EOS – End of Sarah!

KING I would love to see that debate. Great theatre. I don’t think she wants to be President but one can only hope that if Palin decides to run that the righties would convince Rice that it would be her duty to knock out Palin. We know that the righties want no parts of Palin for President.

wtf, since ‘half wit’ had virtually nothing to do with the article, the left’s obsession over that ‘half wit’ is showing.

w_t_f said:
Perfect analysis. Rice and Powell were duped, used and abused. Powell had the good sense to get out after the first four. Why she stayed, still makes me scratch my head.

You raise a great point. I always loved Powell and could not believe he let himself get caught up in that mess. But she did hang around until the end.

“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

Maybe Couric should ask some of these people why they were duped also…

Roy Streit said:
Condi was a willing LIAR in the run up to the illegal and immoral invasion. Why in the hell would anyone think she could be telling the truth now? Smart, tough, media savvy but still a LIAR and a willing war-monger.

You point to the same tired argument….even though ALL the Democrat leadership and the NYT believed the same thing. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE THAT BUSH LIED OR COVERED ANYTHING UP. Unlike Obama, who lies (Documented) on an almost DAILY bases. The only trouble I have is determining if your just continuing to regurgitate the lie…or truly that ignorant.
How funny is it that the ‘party of lies’ can’t even point to one real one from the other side.

Meanwhile Rice’s repeated assertion that the world is better off without Hussein might be a true statement, but ultimately dodged Couric’s repeated attempt to learn whether in the absence of weapons of mass destruction, there was another rationale for the Iraq war.

Would it be fair to guess that you don’t actually recognize that sentence is self-contradictory?

Remind me again, which of the rightist half wits are we talking about? There are so many, it is hard to remember.

Obeezy said:
She would make Obama look like the unexperienced dullard he really is…Dems just cant get enough of proving how utterly stupid they really are

Actually I think they would make for a great debate. Both are smart and either could hold their own I am sure.

The Real Royal King said:
Odd you should mention that. Especially since I don’t see anyone posting here lauding the Couric performance. It was, as always, mediocre. You really should think about the Talking Points given you before you start cutting and pasting.

Thanks for the advice. But, read a little slower and you may detect that I was addressing the fact that Couric is a Liberal hero and paid gun. She assumes it her responsibility to lift up Liberals and attack conservatives. That was her sole mission here, to win the favor of her establishment and embarrass Condi. Unfortunately she was the one who ended up looking foolish.

Since the King is obsessed with that ‘half wit’ Palin, does that make him a ‘quarter wit’? Nah, that’s giving him too much credit.

BlackWidow said:
Actually I think they would make for a great debate. Both are smart and either could hold their own I am sure.

Cmon Really…She was in charge of multi million dollar budgets at Stanford, She was on the board of directors for many companies and an expert on foreign policy. She is worlds above Obama…. He wouldn’t understand half of what she was talking about…Clinton maybe, Obama never..

Constipated Couric, and a dubious royal king & company, miss the pure and simple logic of what Rice is saying.
Saddam…was the “weapons of mass destruction”, along with his two sons, and a cabinet of psychopathic hacks.
How I wish, we could send ALL APPEASERS on a Taliban expedition. Even with their heads detached, they would be gurgling their pacifist bullshit. Thanks to Bush, we did eliminate one of the most dangerous tyrants in the Middle East. Now we must focus on Ahmadineja and Kim Jong il. A nuclear war, given the madness of these two parasites, is closer then many think. My bets are on Kim Jong, to initiate the first strike which will hopefully trigger a free-for-all. In the aftermath, of such a devastating consequence, perhaps humans will recognize the futility of war Not likely they will…but it will make for an interesting new start.

The Real Royal King said:
Remind me again, which of the rightist half wits are we talking about? There are so many, it is hard to remember.

Yes, there are so many brilliant leftists.
That’s why none of you geniuses can figure out:
How to create a job
How lower taxes and regulations stimulate an economy
That it’s better to be respected and liked (internationally)
That we live in the best country in the old
That it is our freedom and faith that has made us exceptional.

While Couric came out swinging,

JOURNALISM!!!

w_t_f said:
Perfect analysis. Rice and Powell were duped, used and abused. Powell had the good sense to get out after the first four. Why she stayed, still makes me scratch my head.

I wouldn’t say duped or abused. I think they both earned and took their positions with sincerity and decent intentions. When faced with the reality of what was going on then and the pressures to support the admin they worked for they made their choices.

Condi makes a good point that it’s useless to use today’s knowledge and try to speculate about the past. I’ve often wondered why in interviewers do that so often as if it’s relevant.
Still, the case made for the war was exaggerated and dishonest and Condi was right in there talking about the danger of the mushroom cloud.

goldmind said:
Constipated Couric, and a dubious royal king & company, miss the pure and simple logic of what Rice is saying.
Saddam…was the “weapons of mass destruction”, along with his two sons, and a cabinet of psychopathic hacks.
How I wish, we could send ALL APPEASERS on a Taliban expedition. Even with their heads detached, they would be gurgling their pacifist bullshit. Thanks to Bush, we did eliminate one of the most dangerous tyrants in the Middle East. Now we must focus on Ahmadineja and Kim Jong il. A nuclear war, given the madness of these two parasites, is closer then many think. My bets are on Kim Jong, to initiate the first strike which will hopefully trigger a free-for-all. In the aftermath, of such a devastating consequence, perhaps humans will recognize the futility of war Not likely they will…but it will make for an interesting new start.

Liberals only understand appeasement when dealing with tyrants….and then they mock those that standup to them……disgusting.

ondrock said:
THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE THAT BUSH LIED OR COVERED ANYTHING UP.

Geez, ondrock, how many times do you have to hear “Bush lied, people died!” before you believe it?

I’ve yet to see a lib get the best of Condi. This is just the latest example. Absolutely love her!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I’ve yet to see a lib get the best of Condi. This is just the latest example. Absolutely love her!

Once again you show your stupidity. Most of the libs like and respect her. Dumbass! Go back to looking out your window.

Couric gets paid to read the news about what other people are actually doing. She is a face that reads things. Someone writes her words and questions and then SHE READS THEM!

Sarah Pain was so offended by this dingbat’s tone while asking about what she reads that she blew off the question. Condi Rice knew ahead of time that a stupid question or two would be coming.

Look a the picture below, Condi is looking at Couric and appears to be thinking “My God, you really are that stupid!”

The Real Rabid Kook said:
I’ve never seen or heard anything to suggest that Ms. Rice is particularly conservative or Republican.

Hey, this is just like when you knew of no evidence to suggest that Obama is a progressive. Condi Rice:

The first Republican that I knew was my father John Rice. And he is still the Republican that I admire most. My father joined our party because the Democrats in Jim Crow Alabama of 1952 would not register him to vote. The Republicans did.

I want you to know–I want you to know that my father has never forgotten that day, and neither have I.

I joined the party for different reasons. I found a party that sees me as an individual, not as part of a group. I found a party that puts family first. I found a party that has love of liberty at its core, and I found a party that believes that peace begins with strength.

You’re funny, Kook. Dumb, but funny.

Obeezy said:
“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force if necessary to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

Maybe Couric should ask some of these people why they were duped also…

I’m not sure we have a way of knowing just how much detailed intelligence is shared with cabinet officials but before we invaded the inspectors were back in and in early 2003 no serious indications of WMD were found, but Bush went to war anyway.

Looking at the votes that gave Bush the authority to go to war without congress you see many Dems voted no but too many voted yes. GOP, almost all.

Condi Rice is one of the smartest women out there in politics yet the left still degrade her. She states she started off as a liberial person but saw that the values and thought process was completely against her beliefs.

w_t_f said:

Actually, Liberals called her a ‘female Uncle Tom’, a porch monkey, and much worse. The attacks were relentless and unprecedented. You just can’t stand a smart, strong, black conservative. That is also called racism.

CosmosDan said:
I’m not sure we have a way of knowing just how much detailed intelligence is shared with cabinet officials but before we invaded the inspectors were back in and in early 2003 no serious indications of WMD were found, but Bush went to war anyway.

Looking at the votes that gave Bush the authority to go to war without congress you see many Dems voted no but too many voted yes. GOP, almost all.</blockquote
So you think that they never had an,y and after not allowing inspectors in the country for a long period of time, they were a good little country that didnt wantt to harm anyone..My beef was that we didnt go in with all out power and get it done in half the time

Phocus said,

“My God, you really are that stupid!”

LMAO!!!! RIGHT ON!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I’ve yet to see a lib get the best of Condi. This is just the latest example. Absolutely love her!

Right.

You consider Ms. Rice a RINO, and you wouldn’t vote for any African American. Please, you’re as phony as John Boner.

The Real Royal King said:
Right. You consider Ms. Rice a RINO, and you wouldn’t vote for any African American. Please, you’re as phony as John Boner.

When King can’t find anything real to complain about… he just makes stuff up.

I’m starting to gain a lot of sympathy for this guy. Things are obviously pretty tough for him these days.

Obeezy said, “My beef was that we didnt go in with all out power and get it done in half the time”

I agree. I think we would be better off if we would ‘bomb and leave’. (Repeat if necessary)
I just read that our troops are building mosques in Afghanistan……ridiculous.

Fact: Past Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice does place high standards in her goals and is a very good role model for women and I still find her as a viable candidate for 2012 in the GOP line-up! Couric on the other hand is a hack like some posters here! That’s the fact! Condi you have my vote!

BlackWidow said:
You raise a great point. I always loved Powell and could not believe he let himself get caught up in that mess. But she did hang around until the end.

Fact: Powell is the reason Iraq wasn’t put away on the first shot! He’s a weakling!

I’m starting to gain a lot of sympathy for this guy. Things are obviously pretty tough for him these days.

Seeing Robert’s face on his video, much of his bitterness is understandable.

Arthur Clough said:
Couric is a media child and not a serious journalist. Ms Rice has more class than Couric could find the rest of her life.Couric not intelligent enough to get one past Rice. Thats why Rice does Stanford and Couric does CBS tv. Ho,ho,ho,

No liberal is intelligent enough to grasp the concept that Hussein violated his cease-fire agreement. That was the ONLY reason needed to invade Iraq.

LibertySister said:
Condi Rice is one of the smartest women out there in politics yet the left still degrade her. She states she started off as a liberial person but saw that the values and thought process was completely against her beliefs.

Can you read. We like Condi and respect her!!! What more is there to say?

As a complete and seperate aside, CNN Senior medical correspondant to Ali Velshi

“You can’t insure people with pre-existing health conditions ,unless the government insures the healthy. They are a huge cash cow to the government .

The Real Royal King said:
Right.

You consider Ms. Rice a RINO, and you wouldn’t vote for any African American. Please, you’re as phony as John Boner.

Conservatives don’t view the country by ‘groups’ like the typical racist liberal.
We judge by the content of character, not the color of skin. I oppose(d) Obama because of his Marxist views but, I would crawl over broken glass to vote for Allen West for president. He is a hero and a brilliant man.

King says:

You consider Ms. Rice a RINO, and you wouldn’t vote for any African American. Please, you’re as phony as John Boner.

Well you’re wrong, I’d vote for Condi in a heartbeat. Sorry that doesn’t fit your racism narractive, but it’s the truth. Heck, let’s go for a double AA ticket, Condi Rice/Allen West. Your little, liberal head would explode!

TOO LATE! The history books have already been written to PROVE that it was George W Bush who started the war and crashed flying saucers that were hidden in Area 51 into the Pentagon, the WTC Towers, and in a remote field in PA.

w_t_f said:
No doubt. I’m sure conservatives/teabaggers see Rice as a RINO. Intelligence is not one of their strong points.

Everyone here now knows your strong point, you are stupid. You win that category hands down.

ondrock said:
Actually, Liberals called her a ‘female Uncle Tom’, a porch monkey, and much worse. The attacks were relentless and unprecedented. You just can’t stand a smart, strong, black conservative. That is also called racism.

Hey people have said worse than that about O. Please go after the ones that said that and quit blaming the ones who did not.

Obeezy said:
..My beef was that we didnt go in with all out power and get it done in half the time

They failed to read Sun Tzu

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
King says: You consider Ms. Rice a RINO, and you wouldn’t vote for any African American. Please, you’re as phony as John Boner. Well you’re wrong, I’d vote for Condi in a heartbeat. Sorry that doesn’t fit your racism narractive, but it’s the truth. Heck, let’s go for a double AA ticket, Condi Rice/Allen West. Your little, liberal head would explode!

Condi Rice has more sense than to run with Allen West..

Here is the actual conversation. It looks like Mediaite “Cherry picked.” Regardless, Ms. Rice handed katie an ass whooping.

KATIE COURIC: On Iraq, books have been written, as you know, many, many books; documentaries have been made about how intelligence was incorrectly analyzed and cherry-picked to build an argument for war, and memos from that time do suggest that officials knew there was a small chance of actually finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

CONDOLEEZZA RICE: Well, wait a second, what?

COURIC: (Chuckles.) There are — there are some things that seem to suggest that in the buildup to the actual war that there was some doubt about that, wouldn’t you say –

RICE: No. (Laughter.)

COURIC: Well –

RICE: Actually, I don’t agree with that premise at all.

COURIC: You don’t?

RICE: No.

COURIC: Even with — when Tony Blair met with the president in Washington –

RICE: Well, you always — are you 100 percent sure when you’re dealing with an opaque, secretive country in which there have been no inspections for years? No, you’re not 100 percent sure. But the preponderance of intelligence analysis — the preponderance of intelligence analysis from around the world was that he had had weapons of mass destruction. We knew he had used weapons of mass destruction. That was not a theoretical proposition.

COURIC: Right. That’s correct.

RICE: He’d used them –

COURIC: Against the Kurds.

RICE: Against the Kurds, against the Shia and against the Iranians. So he’d used them several times. And the preponderance of intelligence was that he was reconstituting or had actually, in the intelligence estimate, reconstituted his biological and chemical capabilities.
There was some debate about how far he had gotten on the nuclear front, some saying that with foreign help it could be a year; others saying it would be several years.

So no, it’s simply not the case that there was, if you’re in a position of decision-making, evidence to say that it was likely that he did not have weapons of mass destruction.

Now, what we found is that he was indeed breaking out of the constraints that had been put there — we all know the scandal of oil-for-food — that he was not as far along in that reconstitution as the intelligence had suggested. But the idea that somehow Saddam Hussein was not pursuing or was never going to pursue weapons of mass destruction, I think, is as misplaced as an argument that he had fully reconstituted.

COURIC: Well, if there weren’t, ultimately, weapons of mass destruction found, what was then the rationale for war? Without that, is there another rationale other than the world is better off without Saddam Hussein?

RICE: Well, that’s a pretty good rationale. (Laughter.) But let me — let me go back to the premise, the question, in the absence of weapons of mass destruction, what was the — it’s true that you can only — that what you know today can affect what you know and do tomorrow, but what you know today cannot affect what you did yesterday.

So the premise that somehow, because weapons of mass destruction were not found in stockpiles, the rationale for the war was flawed leaves out the fact that at the time that we decided to go to war, we thought there were weapons of mass destruction. So let’s stipulate that.

Now, we didn’t worry about weapons of mass destruction particularly in the hands of Russians. The Russians had the hundred thousand — a hundred times the weapons capability of Saddam Hussein. The problem was that Saddam Hussein had taken the world to war in really destructive wars twice, Iran and the Gulf War in ’91; dragged us into conflict again in ’98, as President Clinton had responded to the problem there; violated repeatedly Security Council resolutions. The efforts that we were making to keep him in his box, whether it was oil-for-food or the — or trying to keep his air forces on the ground through flying no-fly zones — he was shooting at our aircraft every day, he still refused to acknowledge that Kuwait was an independent country, and so on and so on.

This was the most dangerous tyrant in the middle of the Middle East, and he had repeatedly flaunted (sic) the efforts of the international community to control him after ’91. And so I think there is an argument that in those circumstances, getting Saddam — getting rid of Saddam Hussein was a very good thing.

COURIC: So absent of the presence — or if you had known at the time that Iraq wasn’t as far along with its weapons program as it ultimately turned out to be, would all of those other things you mentioned provide rationale for the war?

RICE: Katie, I’m going to repeat: What you know today can affect what you do tomorrow, but not

COURIC: No, but just put yourself back there –

RICE: I did — I can’t — I can’t –

COURIC: I mean, you’re saying that that seemed like a good rationale. Do you think it is?

RICE: I can’t speculate on what I would have thought if I had known. I think it’s not a fruitful exercise. We knew what we knew, and we made the decisions based on that intelligence and that knowledge.

Now I still believe that even in the absence of finding weapons of mass destruction, the world and the Middle East are much better places without Saddam Hussein. And you always can know what happened as a result of what you did. What you can’t know is what would have happened had you not done it.

The Iraq that we’re talking about today, our debate about Iraq today — our concerns about Iraq today are, of course, about continuing violence. But the conversation is whether Shias, Sunnis, Kurds can within their new democratic institutions form the first multi-confessional democracy in the Arab world. That’s a really interesting discussion, and it’s different than a discussion that we might have been having about whether or not the nuclear competition between Ahmadinejad in Iran and Saddam Hussein in Iraq is a greater danger than having taken Saddam Hussein out.

COURIC: Do you –

RICE: So I actually think that might have been where we were.

COURIC: Do you think that democracy will hold in Iraq?

RICE: I do. The Iraqis are a tough people, and they’re not easy. But I do think that they’ve got a chance in these new institutions to find a way to resolve their differences without somebody having to oppress somebody else, which has been the whole history of Iraq and in fact the whole history of the Middle East.

Fact:

Roy Streit said:
Condi was a willing LIAR in the run up to the illegal and immoral invasion. Why in the hell would anyone think she could be telling the truth now? Smart, tough, media savvy but still a LIAR and a willing war-monger.

Fact: Here’s one!

Charlie Martin said:
Meanwhile Rice’s repeated assertion that the world is better off without Hussein might be a true statement, but ultimately dodged Couric’s repeated attempt to learn whether in the absence of weapons of mass destruction, there was another rationale for the Iraq war. Would it be fair to guess that you don’t actually recognize that sentence is self-contradictory?

Fact: This makes two! Not bad Condi! Maybe show her in a tight pair of daisy dukes and we might see 100% good responsive post?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I’ve yet to see a lib get the best of Condi. This is just the latest example. Absolutely love her!

How can you just love her and not understand how much of a half wit Palin is. Compare the two and Condi wins hands down in every respect.

Obeezy said:
So you think that they never had an,y and after not allowing inspectors in the country for a long period of time, they were a good little country that didnt wantt to harm anyone..My beef was that we didnt go in with all out power and get it done in half the time

I have know idea how you got that from my post. I didn’t say that at all.

I think the reason we didn’t go in with all out power was that we had been attacked and were already in a war over that. Just guessing though.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Powell is the reason Iraq wasn’t put away on the first shot! He’s a weakling!

Fiction: Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Fact: Powell knew there was little proof to back that claim up. ie: CIA intelligence that reported no WMD and had no reconsituted plan to begin producing WMD.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Powell is the reason Iraq wasn’t put away on the first shot! He’s a weakling!

How can somone with a whacky avatar sit there and call someone like Powell any names. He is an American Hero and you my man are a twit.

BlackWidow said:
How can you just love her and not understand how much of a half wit Palin is. Compare the two and Condi wins hands down in every respect.

I suspect SOMW in 2012 is not even a quarter of intelligent as the half wit.

BlackWidow said:
How can you just love her and not understand how much of a half wit Palin is. Compare the two and Condi wins hands down in every respect.

Typical liberal/neocon claim. This is obviously the lefts tactic against Palin. Ridicule, as Sal Alinsky points out in Rules For Radicals, “is man’s most potent weapons.” Additionally, he claims that it’s hard to counterattack and thus infuriates the opposition which works to the Libs advantage.

You Just4thefax are a sicko!

Fact: This makes two! Not bad Condi! Maybe show her in a tight pair of daisy dukes and we might see 100% good responsive post?

More Liberty said:
Typical liberal/neocon claim. This is obviously the lefts tactic against Palin. Ridicule, as Sal Alinsky points out in Rules For Radicals, “is man’s most potent weapons.” Additionally, he claims that it’s hard to counterattack and thus infuriates the opposition which works to the Libs advantage.

WHAT?????

Back when Harry Belafonte was calling Colin Powell a ‘house negro’, the left thought it was funny.

writer said:
Back when Harry Belafonte was calling Colin Powell a ‘house negro’, the left thought it was funny.

You make a very interesting point. It’s amazing how liberals are so intolerant about African-Americans and political diversity.

writer said:
Back when Harry Belafonte was calling Colin Powell a ‘house negro’, the left thought it was funny.

And now Harry is the WH’s “house negro.”

ondrock said:
Actually, Liberals called her a ‘female Uncle Tom’, a porch monkey, and much worse. The attacks were relentless and unprecedented. You just can’t stand a smart, strong, black conservative. That is also called racism.

The ONLY thing I ever heard about Condi was that she was a lesbian. Wouldn’t that be something if we had a Republican President that was black and a lesbian? Sounds good to me but I bet that would set off you righties big time.

BlackWidow said:
Wouldn’t that be something if we had a Republican President that was black and a lesbian?

Yeah, maybe Michelle will run for President.

notsofast said:
And now Harry is the WH’s “house negro.”

I see you put Just4thefax to bed early troday.

BlackWidow said:
I see you put Just4thefax to bed early troday.

You must be The Reasonable Lib.

writer said:
Back when Harry Belafonte was calling Colin Powell a ‘house negro’, the left thought it was funny.

Ah, Belafonte. What a charmer that guy is.

That’s very , very , rich. LOL

BlackWidow said:
Hey people have said worse than that about O. Please go after the ones that said that and quit blaming the ones who did not.

Well, I would actually have to hear them to condemn them…and I would. Unfortunately, I’m afraid those are just the crazy voices in your head.

More Liberty said:
You make a very interesting point. It’s amazing how liberals are so intolerant about African-Americans and political diversity.

Wrong! I for one read up on Mr. Powell, long before he joined the Bush administration and he was what the Republican Party was meant to be. Not this BS party it has become. I would have voted for him in a second. The right woould be/ are the first to throw him and Rice under the bus as RINO’s.

w_t_f said:
Wrong! I for one read up on Mr. Powell, long before he joined the Bush administration and he was what the Republican Party was meant to be. Not this BS party it has become. I would have voted for him in a second. The right woould be/ are the first to throw him and Rice under the bus as RINO’s.

That is why I suspect he backed Obama. The repub party has become something more unrecognizable and repugnant these days.

Me thinks WTF is Ted reincarnated.

w_t_f said:
The repub party has become something more unrecognizable and repugnant these days.

Yes, that’s why they won more seats in the Congress than any other party had in 62 years.

Keep drinking your Barry Kool-Aid.

BTW, his HC bill requirement for people to buy insurance was just ruled unconstitutional.

He is a great lawyer that Barry is !

Not only did they cherry pick the intelligence, they distorted it, with one goal in mind: get the support of the public for a war that wanted to start.

P.S.
Thanks for adding billions and billions of dollars to the deficit with this war that should have been spent here in the United States.

Fox News: Waging war against secular governance said:
Not only did they cherry pick the intelligence, they distorted it, with one goal in mind: get the support of the public for a war that wanted to start.

Nice lie.

Let’s see what the Dims said about Saddam’s WMDs shall we?

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” S
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998
“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
“Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
“There is no doubt that … Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001
“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.”
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…”
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force– if necessary– to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

Now next time , get the facts straight or just STFU!

w_t_f said:
Wrong! I for one read up on Mr. Powell, long before he joined the Bush administration and he was what the Republican Party was meant to be. Not this BS party it has become. I would have voted for him in a second. The right woould be/ are the first to throw him and Rice under the bus as RINO’s.

Liberal sponsored attacks on African-Americans that dare to venture off of the DNC plantation are simply disgusting.

ondrock said:
Actually, Liberals called her a ‘female Uncle Tom’, a porch monkey, and much worse. The attacks were relentless and unprecedented. You just can’t stand a smart, strong, black conservative. That is also called racism.

They did call her those names(I didn’t see the porch monkey, I also thought they did a house negro theme too) and that is outright bigotry. I can’t jump on the lib bandwagon and label it racism, as they have lowered the credence of that term.

notsofast said:
Yes, that’s why they won more seats in the Congress than any other party had in 62 years.

BFD!

Boner actually said something admirable when he claimed to be a good friend of Kennedy (admirable in the context of rep and dem) and worked to find common ground. But then fucked up by not wanting to use the word compromise. Pandering to those tea partier voters. Pussied out!

notsofast said:
Yes, that’s why they won more seats in the Congress than any other party had in 62 years.

Keep drinking your Barry Kool-Aid.

BTW, his HC bill requirement for people to buy insurance was just ruled unconstitutional.

He is a great lawyer that Barry is !

But, didn’t do all that well in the Senate ….

More Liberty said:
COURIC: Well, if there weren’t, ultimately, weapons of mass destruction found, what was then the rationale for war?

If my aunt, ultimately, didn’t have testicles, she wouldn’t be my uncle.

Wikileaks.

Duelfer Report.

National Ground Intelligence Center

The Real Rabid Kook said:
But, didn’t do all that well in the Senate ….

Yeah, taking 2/3 of the seats in play is a pretty poor showing. Idiot.

More Liberty said:
Liberal sponsored attacks on African-Americans that dare to venture off of the DNC plantation are simply disgusting.

I was in no way suggesting they should be a dem or change parties. So, not sure how you can claim I made a liberal attack. I actually said or meant to say they are republicans one could respect. I might have stayed in the party if more repubs use their sense of decency, intelligence and didn’t pander to the whackjobs of today.

Now here is one woman who SHOULD be President of the US. She is briiliant, poised and extrememly intelligent. Condi can take on anyone, Katie is small change.

I might have stayed in the party if more repubs use their sense of decency, intelligence and didn’t pander to the whackjobs of today.

I think I can speak for every conservative when I say, adios, don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

w_t_f said:
I might have stayed in the party if more repubs use their sense of decency, intelligence and didn’t pander to the whackjobs of today.

I take it you’ve never been exposed to the Keith Olbermann, Rachel maddow, Daily Kos Holy Trinity.

ondrock said:
It’s always comical how Liberals, after they repeat their own idiotic lies numerous times, only succeed in fooling themselves.
Condi slices and dices the arrogant condescension right out of Couric. That is the danger of giving a silly, unearned,and political award to the undeserving….they actually begin to believe their own foolish hype. In a battle of wits, Couric was shown unarmed

Excellent post!

More Liberty said:
RICE: Well, you always — are you 100 percent sure when you’re dealing with an opaque, secretive country in which there have been no inspections for years? No, you’re not 100 percent sure. But the preponderance of intelligence analysis — the preponderance of intelligence analysis from around the world was that he had had weapons of mass destruction. We knew he had used weapons of mass destruction. That was not a theoretical proposition

Let me see if I got this right. We can drop a missile down a chimney from 100s of miles away. We have satellite surveillance. We have spy planes that can count the number of ants on an ant hill, we had intelligence in Iraq itself, but we can’t be 99.99% positive Iraq had WMD. Whether Rice new it or not their decision cost us to date 4282 soldiers lives, 30182 wounded, and billion of dollars toward our deficit. I would say if you’re going to take that kind of risk you better have the intelligence to be as close to 100% as possible and for sure not come up blank. Did anyone expect any thing else from this interview. Of course she is going to cover for her old bosses and her own ass. What a stupid question by Couric

Hey Condi! you are still repeating the same crap you and the rest of the ‘W’ team sold to the American people 8 yrs ago. I wonder how you, W, Cheney, RUMSFELD, Powell, Wolfowitz, and the rest of the other crooks sleep at night.

Pablo said:
Wikileaks.
Duelfer Report.
National Ground Intelligence Center

I’m sorry, but that report has to be the most bogus report I have seen. If it were true Cheney and Bush would have paraded that all over Washington, because they both look like fools starting this war.

skyfet said:
Hey Condi! you are still repeating the same crap you and the rest of the ‘W’ team sold to the American people 8 yrs ago. I wonder how you, W, Cheney, RUMSFELD, Powell, Wolfowitz, and the rest of the other crooks sleep at night.

Way to speak truth to power! I’m sure when Condi reads your comment she’ll swallow a whole bottle of sleeping pills.

Mission accomplished!! Culpable ignorance never admits to…culpable ignorance. BushDrunk & fans left us a bloodied world. A quivering lump of historic failure. A vast wound that will remain raw & open for decades to come. BushDrunk tested to destruction the idea that the U.S. could still throw its weight around – and found that it cannot. There are no kick-butt “wars” anymore. All done by an uninteeligent, inept, delusional, alcoholic, Republiscum imbecile. An appalling act of grand cowardice. A legacy of disaster & ruin. And Obama is saddled with this attenuated onslaught of Repug insanity. Each & every death & wound a total waste. And both BushDrunks can claim, “I never cut & ran.” “The ‘surge’ worked.”

w_t_f said:
Wrong! I for one read up on Mr. Powell, long before he joined the Bush administration and he was what the Republican Party was meant to be. Not this BS party it has become. I would have voted for him in a second. The right woould be/ are the first to throw him and Rice under the bus as RINO’s.

w_t_f said:
That is why I suspect he backed Obama. The repub party has become something more unrecognizable and repugnant these days.

Right!! He was a great guy to the right when he was supporting the war, then later when he supported Obama it must have been because he was black
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/pat-buchanan-says-colin-powell-endorsed
but those dam liberals keep playing the race card.

Katie Couric is out of her league.

Katie Couric is not the one to handle such an interview. She is too polite. She needed to follow up with specific examples of the cherry-picking she mentioned. Anyone who cares to take time to read know the Bush administration did cherry-pick their intelligence to successfully take us into a war they desired. Those who haven’t taken time to read the facts will consider this another success at glorifying the Bush administration’s actions. While I agree with Rice that the world is likely better without Saddam Hussein, I wonder if she would tell the families of all the brave American soldiers who were sent to their deaths by the Bush administration that Hussein’s death was worth all those lives. This is not a partisan comment. We still have soldiers needlessly dying for the Obama administration, which is looking more like the Bushies every day, carrying on their policy of foreign aggression.

Nachi said:
A vast wound that will remain raw & open for decades to come. BushDrunk tested to destruction the idea that the U.S. could still throw its weight around – and found that it cannot.

That’s funny given that the only thing Obama seems to take credit for instead of blaming Bush for is Iraq.

Truth said:
I’m sorry, but that report has to be the most bogus report I have seen. If it were true Cheney and Bush would have paraded that all over Washington, because they both look like fools starting this war.

Those are 3 reports, not a report. Which one are you having a problem with and why? And when did you ever see Bush taking on his critics with any sort of urgency?

Hey, since you don’t like all those government reports, maybe a guy who knows damn well what he’s talking about on the Daily Show will help you along to the truth, Truth. Gen Georges Sada.

Pablo said:
Those are 3 reports, not a report. Which one are you having a problem with and why? And when did you ever see Bush taking on his critics with any sort of urgency?

Your last point is correct. I have a problem with the source of all these reports. The person that could confirm the Duelfer Report is dead. Call me a skeptic, but if there were any truth to these any good politician would have use them to their advatage. Maybe not Bush he was to stupid, Cheney would have for sure used them to his advantage when the opportunity work to his advantage. Everything I have read points to is this not being a Bush war, but a Cheney war. Cheney had everything financially to gain from this and nothing to lose. I hope he can live with the memories of 4282 lives of some of our young and dedicated American soldiers and billions of dollars pumped into this avoidable war. Personally I feel they underestimated the resilience of the Iraq resistance. I lived through a similar war in Vietnam. I do not condone anything Saddam did and at some point in the future we may have had to face his reality, but not when we did.

Kird said:
Way to speak truth to power! I’m sure when Condi reads your comment she’ll swallow a whole bottle of sleeping pills.

I bet you can show her how. ahhhhhh

Truth said:
I have a problem with the source of all these reports. The person that could confirm the Duelfer Report is dead.

You have a problem with Wikileaks stolen, classified cables? You have a problem with the National Ground Intelligence Center? Here’s the actual report. John Negroponte is very much alive and kicking. Charles Duelfer is alive and kicking. You have a problem with Gen Sada? What is it?

Call me a skeptic, but if there were any truth to these any good politician would have use them to their advatage. Maybe not Bush he was to stupid, Cheney would have for sure used them to his advantage when the opportunity work to his advantage.

For all the fun y’all like to have barking about Darth Cheney, Bush called the shots. They had all of this in their hands at various times and never crowed about it. Much to my consternation, they took the tack of ignoring their detractors. As much as I disagreed with it, they did get reelected, which I have to assume was their goal.

Pablo said:
Hey, since you don’t like all those government reports, maybe a guy who knows damn well what he’s talking about on the Daily Show will help you along to the truth, Truth. Gen Georges Sada.

Another interesting General who might know something Hugh Shelton , also on the daily show.

He describes the justification for war with Iraq as lies and deceptions.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-december-6-2010/hugh-shelton

Personally I feel they underestimated the resilience of the Iraq resistance.

Perhaps. I think what they really overestimated was the extent to which we’d be embraced. As for the resistance, much of which was not Iraqi, the flypaper strategy worked and the war in Iraq is over. Fighting in Afghanistan is a bitch, as we know, and yet there’s now very little al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. They went all in or Iraq on got their asses kicked, first by coalition forces and then by the very Iraqis they once fought alongside. And, those that stayed in Afghanistan either got killed there or chased out.

I do not condone anything Saddam did and at some point in the future we may have had to face his reality, but not when we did.

You libs who continue to re-write history need to educate yourselves and read this. Its a timeline of events during the UNSCOM inspections.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.un.org%2FDepts%2Funscom%2FChronology%2Fchronologyframe.htm&ei=xqcGTYC1M8qr8AbkjNXZCg&usg=AFQjCNFHSccRfQDI5XWHQlHs22aelFNCpw

CosmosDan said:
Another interesting General who might know something Hugh Shelton , also on the daily show.

He describes the justification for war with Iraq as lies and deceptions.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-december-6-2010/hugh-shelton

And that’s all you have to say about Gen. Sada, Dan? That you heard Hugh Shelton, who you tell us might know something, vaguely agreeing with you on the Daily Show? Ohhhhhhkay.

You could at least go to his book and dig something up. Like the number of opportunities we had to kill Osama bin Ladin that Madeline Albright shot down.

Hmmmm….speaking of Madeline Albright and shooting things down: Clinton aide’s idea: Let Iraq shoot down U.S. plane

What a class act Condi Rice is. Couric will remain just a news reader. But Ms. Rice has almost unlimited possibilities.
She was great as Secretary of State. I just wish she had more ambitions in the political arena. But, she smart to keep it at arms length. Out loss.

Good Lord – put Katie back on in the morning where she can do her fluff and stuff with celebrities. This is why Couric is NOT well liked among smart individuals – she tried to play gotcha with a false premise about WMD. Typical fashion for Katie, who is all adoring of hehimselftheone, as are most of her colleagues.

Condie slapped her down which Katie deserved.

CBS – Corrupt Bastard Station (or corrupt bitch (word approved by NOW) station when talking about Katie).

Pablo said:
And that’s all you have to say about Gen. Sada, Dan?

He didn’t say much I didn’t know or have objected to, although ,he did say several years ago that WMDs were taken to Syria and we’d discover the truth of it, which hasn’t happened. He made the tour repeating that story but I see no reason to wholeheartedly accept it.

w_t_f said:
BFD!

You are damn right it’s a BFD!

That’s why BHO caved on keeping the tax rates the same.

LMAO!

skyfet said:
I wonder how you, W, Cheney, RUMSFELD, Powell, Wolfowitz, and the rest of the other crooks sleep at night.

Same way the Dims who were wrong abt Iraq’s WMD sleep.

BlackWidow said:
You Just4thefax are a sicko! Fact: This makes two! Not bad Condi! Maybe show her in a tight pair of daisy dukes and we might see 100% good responsive post?

Fact: Look wrinkles just because nobody lately talks dirty to you no more don’t take out your frustrations out on me!

CosmosDan said:
Another interesting General who might know something Hugh Shelton , also on the daily show. He describes the justification for war with Iraq as lies and deceptions.http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-december-6-2010/hugh-shelton

Fact: It’s true liberals view comedy central as a news channel!

Truth said:
Your last point is correct. I have a problem with the source of all these reports. The person that could confirm the Duelfer Report is dead. Call me a skeptic, but if there were any truth to these any good politician would have use them to their advatage. Maybe not Bush he was to stupid, Cheney would have for sure used them to his advantage when the opportunity work to his advantage. Everything I have read points to is this not being a Bush war, but a Cheney war. Cheney had everything financially to gain from this and nothing to lose. I hope he can live with the memories of 4282 lives of some of our young and dedicated American soldiers and billions of dollars pumped into this avoidable war. Personally I feel they underestimated the resilience of the Iraq resistance. I lived through a similar war in Vietnam. I do not condone anything Saddam did and at some point in the future we may have had to face his reality, but not when we did.

Fact: I think what started it all was Saddam’s draining the swamps of the tribal KURDS area, then he began to kill them without fear of anyone stopping him caused Global Warming and that’s how Nancy Pelosi got the term since it was used for a military gain. So she wanted to pull this same tactic here but utterly failed in both getting global warming regulations on business was her draining of the swamp plan to destroy private industry and to put socialism in its place!

Black Widow said> Condi is a lady. She would “never” kick ass.

Katie C. didn’t know it but she had her ass kicked.

Just4thefax said:
I think what started it all was Saddam’s draining the swamps of the tribal KURDS area, then he began to kill them without fear of anyone stopping him caused Global Warming and that’s how Nancy Pelosi got the term since it was used for a military gain.

Actually, that was the Marsh Arabs, who are Shiite, are in the south. The Kurds, who Sunni but not Arab, are up north, and he gassed them or just had them lined up and shot.

On another note, that Salon piece on Shelton’s book starts with a refreshing little trip down memory lane about American policy in Iraq:

Remember, the context here is the Clinton Administration’s years of trying to overthrow Saddam — including in a little-remembered 1996 CIA coup attempt. In December 1998 (most likely after the request was made to Shelton), Clinton bombed Iraq for four days in Operation Desert Fox, which Clinton said was a response to Saddam’s lack of cooperation with U.N. weapons inspectors.

And then, of course the money quote:

At one of my very first breakfasts, while Berger and Cohen were engaged in a sidebar discussion down at one end of the table and Tenet and Richardson were preoccupied in another, one of the Cabinet members present leaned over to me and said, “Hugh, I know I shouldn’t even be asking you this, but what we really need in order to go in and take out Saddam is a precipitous event — something that would make us look good in the eyes of the world. Could you have one of our U-2s fly low enough — and slow enough — so as to guarantee that Saddam could shoot it down?”

That damned warmongering Bush and his crazy unilateral war in Iraq…

Just4thefax said:
Fact: It’s true liberals view comedy central as a news channel!

In response to a conservative who quoted the same show first.

Fox News: Waging war against secular governance said:
Not only did they cherry pick the intelligence, they distorted it, with one goal in mind: get the support of the public for a war that wanted to start.

Still anal retentive I see. One day, you’re going to be hit by a bus and it will knock the crap out of you. Then, they’ll bury you in a matchbox.

More Liberty said:
Here is the actual conversation. It looks like Mediaite “Cherry picked.” Regardless, Ms. Rice handed katie an ass whooping.

Thank you for providing the entire story. Cherry picked, indeed! But what’s new? It is also interesting that the Democratic majority congress & senate voted for the invasion of Iraq before they voted against it. (What would you bet that line will never be printed in a textbook?)

It’s really rather simple – for such simple minds. Both BushDrunks & Gang need to be taken out and hanged. In a Public place. Philly is nice in December/January.

Nachi said:
It’s really rather simple – for such simple minds. Both BushDrunks & Gang need to be taken out and hanged. In a Public place. Philly is nice in December/January.

Can you believe this right wing violence? THESE PEOPLE WANT TO KILL THE PRESIDENT!!!

I denounce this extreme rhetoric.

ImNotBlue said:
When King can’t find anything real to complain about… he just makes stuff up. I’m starting to gain a lot of sympathy for this guy. Things are obviously pretty tough for him these days.

Yeah, but he just keeps cluck cluck clucking along.

I’m about to give up on Mediaite. It seems to attract a lot of low-minded simpletons, mostly from the right but also, disappointingly, some from the left. At the time that Bush was contemplating invading Iraq, most every well-informed person knew that Saddam Hussein did not have any serious WMD’s. We were told that by virtually every foreign observer and nearly all left type commentators in this country. it’s already forgotten but millions of people in this country and abroad went out on the streets to show our anger at what we knew would happen. What Bush did is one of the great moral travesties that this country has ever perpetrated on another country. We deliberately went in and destroyed another country in the process of killing hundreds of thousands of mostly innocent people along with our dear soldiers and at a cost of well over a trillion dollars. And the mayhem continues. Instead of making nice nice to Ms Rice, she along with Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz and the whole cabal of neo-conservatives should be in the hoosgaw. It’s pathetic reading how wonderful Rice is and how she would make mincemeat of Palin. You’re all a bunch of losers

ganymede said:
At the time that Bush was contemplating invading Iraq, most every well-informed person knew that Saddam Hussein did not have any serious WMD’s.

Nonsense. You lost me right there.

BlackWidow said:
The ONLY thing I ever heard about Condi was that she was a lesbian. Wouldn’t that be something if we had a Republican President that was black and a lesbian? Sounds good to me but I bet that would set off you righties big time.

I guess you have been asleep or out of touch.
For the last three years of the Bush administration she has been called names for example by your friend Janeane Garofalo who said she was “a stupid moron along with her boss” She has been protested and yelled names at at many college universities where she was invited and asked to speak with conservative groups.
She has had pies thrown at her and has been called degrading names by Black groups that say they represent the African American community.
She has endowed racism from her own race just like they are attacking Michael Steele now. By black leaders who are quick to degrade there own people when they have a different viewpoint.

Pablo said:
Pablo says:
December 14, 2010 at 1:16 am

Pablo, I’d like to ask you a question. Do you have any kind of a job or life? It seems you spend every waking hour on this site. Just curious.

LibertySister said:
She has had pies thrown at her

I think you have her confused with Ann Coulter. Please provide evidence of your claim.

Pablo said:
Hey, since you don’t like all those government reports, maybe a guy who knows damn well what he’s talking about on the Daily Show will help you along to the truth, Truth. Gen Georges Sada.

Sada has everyrthing to gain and nothing to lose by saying Saddam had WMD. He is selling a book. I’m a show me person and as long as there is no physical evidence I have a hard time accepting hear say. The person I referred to as being able to confirm this is Saddam himself. The truth died with him. If I were to put thousand of young peoples lives on the line as Bush and Cheney did I better have more than just hear say. Regardless the damage is done and I hope to God these soldiers did not die in vain.

the real john t said:
Pablo, I’d like to ask you a question. Do you have any kind of a job or life? It seems you spend every waking hour on this site. Just curious.

What things seem like to you, john, is not the way things are. Sadly, I don’t think you’ll ever resolve that.

Truth said:
The person I referred to as being able to confirm this is Saddam himself.

My question is, is why didn’t they take Saddam into custody and interrogate him continuously about WMDs? Why was Bush so quick to hand him over to Iraq and let them hurry up and hang him? We’ll never know what information he took to the grave with him.

Pablo said:
What things seem like to you, john, is not the way things are.

So I guess you answered my question. You don’t have a job or a life. You must live on welfare.

Why was Bush so quick to hand him over to Iraq and let them hurry up and hang him?

You mean for the three years between his arrest and execution, john? Interesting. Do you have a newsletter that I might subscribe to?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
I might have stayed in the party if more repubs use their sense of decency, intelligence and didn’t pander to the whackjobs of today. I think I can speak for every conservative when I say, adios, don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

your opinion means zilch to me.

Pablo said:
You mean for the three years between his arrest and execution, john?

Why don’t you answer my question? Why didn’t the US take him into custody like they did a lot of other Iraqi prisoners?

the real john t said:
My question is, is why didn’t they take Saddam into custody and interrogate him continuously about WMDs? Why was Bush so quick to hand him over to Iraq and let them hurry up and hang him? We’ll never know what information he took to the grave with him.

i would suspect it’s because they already knew he didn’t have any.

curious as to how it didn’t take that long to find, capture and execute him, but there is still no sign of Bin Laden and doesn’t appear there will be any time soon. wasn’t it Bin Laden that masterminded the attack on us soil? some how, i guess it was more important to focus on a possible would be rather than a definite has done.

w_t_f said:
wasn’t it Bin Laden that masterminded the attack on us soil?

Well yes, but you have to remember Saddam threatened to kill Bush’s daddy. That’s way more important than BinLaden. Not to mention the US and Iraqi casulties. Bush was on a mission, he didn’t give a shit.

ganymede said:
I’m about to give up on Mediaite

Please do.

Rice didn’t kick Couric’s butt at all. Not only did Bush and his NeoCon buddies cherry pick, they out and out lied to the US and the world, and Rice knows this! There were never any WMDs as we were lead to believe. This was the whole reason for us going to war. Bush and the CIA both knew that the memo about “yellow cake” was faked the summer before his state of the union address in January.

Other lies by Bush:

Saddam used gas on his own people:

Saddam Hussein did not gas his own people! Supposedly Hussein gassed Iraqi Kurds at Halabja in March 1988 during the closing days of the Iran-Iraq war. But it isn’t true. In 1990, the U.S. government found that the Kurds died by cyanide gas. It was the Iranians who used cyanide, while the Iraqis used mustard gas. This means it was the Iranians who accidentally killed the Kurds during battle. Hussein had nothing to do with it. (Source: Army War College, Stephen Pelletier & colleague)

In a related lie, Hussein is also said to have committed genocide in August 1988, killing 100,000 Iraqi Kurds with machine guns, then burying them in mass graves. U.S. intelligence services have uniformly dismissed this story. According to Stephen Pelletier of the U.S. Army War College, no such mass graves have ever been found because none exist. The incident never happened. Human Rights Watch, which originally reported the story, has since retracted it, but the lie lives on.

Our own US Army states this is a lie, but Bush and the Neo’s keep stating this as fact!

Saddam tried to kill Bush Sr:

Saddam Hussein did not try to assassinate George Bush, Sr. Bush, Jr. loves to tell the story of how Hussein “tried to kill my dad.” But it’s not true. Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh debunked the story in a December 5, 1993 article in The New Yorker titled “A Case Not Closed.” The bomb was actually miles away from Bush, Sr. and was likely a set-up by Kuwait to keep Clinton from easing sanctions on Iraq.

I suggest that you read truthaboutwar.org for the facts about why we went to war with Iraq. This had nothing to do with Iraq, posing a threat to the US, and all about propping up another puppet government to replace Saddam who we set up as a puppet dictator in the 60s.

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skraf883 said:
Rice didn’t kick Couric’s butt at all. Not only did Bush and his NeoCon buddies cherry pick, they out and out lied to the US and the world, and Rice knows this! There were never any WMDs as we were lead to believe. This was the whole reason for us going to war. Bush and the CIA both knew that the memo about “yellow cake” was faked the summer before his state of the union address in January.

Other lies by Bush:

Saddam used gas on his own people:

Saddam Hussein did not gas his own people! Supposedly Hussein gassed Iraqi Kurds at Halabja in March 1988 during the closing days of the Iran-Iraq war. But it isn’t true. In 1990, the U.S. government found that the Kurds died by cyanide gas. It was the Iranians who used cyanide, while the Iraqis used mustard gas. This means it was the Iranians who accidentally killed the Kurds during battle. Hussein had nothing to do with it. (Source: Army War College, Stephen Pelletier & colleague)

In a related lie, Hussein is also said to have committed genocide in August 1988, killing 100,000 Iraqi Kurds with machine guns, then burying them in mass graves. U.S. intelligence services have uniformly dismissed this story. According to Stephen Pelletier of the U.S. Army War College, no such mass graves have ever been found because none exist. The incident never happened. Human Rights Watch, which originally reported the story, has since retracted it, but the lie lives on.

Our own US Army states this is a lie, but Bush and the Neo’s keep stating this as fact!

Saddam tried to kill Bush Sr:

Saddam Hussein did not try to assassinate George Bush, Sr. Bush, Jr. loves to tell the story of how Hussein “tried to kill my dad.” But it’s not true. Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh debunked the story in a December 5, 1993 article in The New Yorker titled “A Case Not Closed.” The bomb was actually miles away from Bush, Sr. and was likely a set-up by Kuwait to keep Clinton from easing sanctions on Iraq.

I suggest that you read truthaboutwar.org for the facts about why we went to war with Iraq. This had nothing to do with Iraq, posing a threat to the US, and all about propping up another puppet government to replace Saddam who we set up as a puppet dictator in the 60s.

Yea, here’s some other losers who lied, except, they’re liberals: http://wwwsnopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

skraf883 said:
I suggest that you read truthaboutwar.org for the facts about why we went to war with Iraq.

I suggest you read the Joint Authorization for the Use of Military Force in Iraq for the facts about why we went to war in Iraq. That’s an authoritative source, and I see that truthaboutwar.org starts right out with the lie that there were no WMD in Iraq, so that is not so authoritative.

notsofast said:
Same way the Dims who were wrong abt Iraq’s WMD sleep.

All of them together. Including you that supported them, by being a useful idiot.

the real john t said:
Why don’t you answer my question? Why didn’t the US take him into custody like they did a lot of other Iraqi prisoners?

We did take him into custody, you moron. He was in the physical custody of US troops until shortly before he was executed. And he was interrogated by the FBI. We did, however, let Iraq put him on trial, for some crazy reason that probably has to do with his crimes against Iraq.

ganymede said:
I’m about to give up on Mediaite. It seems to attract a lot of low-minded simpletons, mostly from the right but also, disappointingly, some from the left. At the time that Bush was contemplating invading Iraq, most every well-informed person knew that Saddam Hussein did not have any serious WMD’s. We were told that by virtually every foreign observer and nearly all left type commentators in this country. it’s already forgotten but millions of people in this country and abroad went out on the streets to show our anger at what we knew would happen. What Bush did is one of the great moral travesties that this country has ever perpetrated on another country. We deliberately went in and destroyed another country in the process of killing hundreds of thousands of mostly innocent people along with our dear soldiers and at a cost of well over a trillion dollars. And the mayhem continues. Instead of making nice nice to Ms Rice, she along with Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz and the whole cabal of neo-conservatives should be in the hoosgaw. It’s pathetic reading how wonderful Rice is and how she would make mincemeat of Palin. You’re all a bunch of losers

Gany…your resignation is accepted. Wait! You said “give up”. Isn’t that the liberal tradition? Giving up. And you blanket us as a “bunch of losers”. Therein, is the core of the liberal mindset…to give up. Surrender. Blindly comply, and follow the path to the slaughter. You are what keep tyrants in business, and they thrive because you are their fodder. Or is it the elitist edge you so crave? There is no innocence, when a people succumb to the whims of a dictator. All are culpable, and all deserve the wrath visited upon them. Much in the same way you worship the liberal deviates, who reign over your soul. Where is the innocence in the people of North Korea, as they blindly kneel to a man, who in any other situation would be bitch slapped by his peers? Or those in China and Iran…two more zombie nations with only handfuls of INDIVIDUALS, who boldly and courageously defy the scumbags who dictate policy? Remember, you gold plated idiot(s)…warmongers made this nation FREE, and warmongers will continue to salvage it! They are the sons and daughters, who selflessly battle evil on fronts, you barely give a second thought to. Why? Because you are too busy denigrating their sacred purpose. Only when they come to your aid, do you give them fleeting acknowledgements. You maggots know who you are, and shame is always in your game. You are cowards and appeasers. History will bear this truth out…as it has before.

The difference in intelligence between Dr. Rice and Ms. Couric is astounding. But then again, Dr. Rice is a Stanford professor.

I disagree that Rice dodged Couric’s question about whether there was another rationale. She said that Saddam was looking reconstitute his stockpiles and resume his nuclear program when he had a chance, and so the WMD was still on the table. The question she refused to answer was “Would we have invaded if we had known Saddam did not have huge stockpiles.” Answering that question would require 1) returning to her thinking and beliefs at that time and 2) imagining the counter arguments and 3) imagining what the President would decide. It’s impossible, and Rice did not let Couric set the challenge with herself at an impossible advantage. Instead she imagined what might have been the RESULTING environment if the invasion had not occurred.

James Wynn said:
I disagree that Rice dodged Couric’s question about whether there was another rationale. She said that Saddam was looking reconstitute his stockpiles and resume his nuclear program when he had a chance, and so the WMD was still on the table. The question she refused to answer was “Would we have invaded if we had known Saddam did not have huge stockpiles.” Answering that question would require 1) returning to her thinking and beliefs at that time and 2) imagining the counter arguments and 3) imagining what the President would decide. It’s impossible, and Rice did not let Couric set the challenge with herself at an impossible advantage. Instead she imagined what might have been the RESULTING environment if the invasion had not occurred.

Spot-on. I’m glad someone pointed out that she did indeed answer that question… quite clearly and pointedly in fact. Makes me wonder about the comprehension of the author of this article.

Par for the course for Mediaite though.