What hypocrisy! The mainstream hates Tom Coburn..until he criticizes Fox News. Then he becomes a hero and an important opinion leader, and moves to the front page.

This is like the reporting of the health care polling data. Only one poll in recent memory showed public support for the bill — and that poll got covered by all the mainstream media and was a big story on MSNBC and CNN. But now the newest CBS poll shows only 32% of the public supports the health care bill. And no one in the mainstream media wants to report that story.

Note to the media: The public understands the bias behind selective reporting of this sort. No surprise that the media outlets that play this deceitful game are losing both their credibility and their audience.

Senator Coburn apparently doesn’t think Fox New is fair and balanced. It is an interesting observation for him to make considering he is part of the far right and his name is often cited by toadies and other types of freepers in comment sections.

Sounds like a fair & balanced Senator!!

Sounds to me like Coburn was just playing to the audience, when the crowd has pitchforks in hand, ya wanna toss ‘em a little straw. He was in a no win situation, much like McCain and the woman that called Hillary a bitch..

To put it in plain terms, his comments are being blown out of proportion. 2010 Journalism 101.

same2u says:
April 6, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Senator Coburn apparently doesn’t think Fox New is fair and balanced. It is an interesting observation for him to make considering he is part of the far right and his name is often cited by toadies and other types of freepers in comment sections.

He and Obama are very close, they speak weekly by phone. Square that circle.

Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

Is that supposed to be a bad thing, if they do talk weekly?

To answer your exit question Colby “Is this a trend?” Uh no. 2 completely unrelated instances do not a trend make, but it makes for another great “gotcha” mediate headline.

Is this a serious article? Really, a trend? thanks for the good laugh.

I have noticed you and ImNotBlue coming out of your self-imposed exiles recently.

P.S.
What do you think of that awful blurred header at the Dollar Dump? While I know blurring an image is suppose to look cool, aren’t the hens over there more interested in clarity at this stage?

This is hysterical! The whiny liberal left wing media is so terrified of Rush, Sarah and Fox that they will stop at nothing to try to smear them. What complete and total BULLSH*T from complete and total BULLSH*T organizations – the pathetic American media.

Another one wakes up and suddenly realizes that Fox News is not fair and balanced?

Haha…another GOPer admits Fox spread lies and hate.

Time for Bill and Glenn to tear him a new a$$hole!!

Coburn is afraid of where the Republicans are going, and as I have been saying, FOX is leading the party right off the cliff. If Palin and FOX suceed in creating a new party, or in co-opting the Republican party to the far right, it will be a disaster in the general elections. Why? Because though there may be enough votes on the far right to win primaries in certain areas, in a general election a far right candidate will not win in most areas. The Republicans need the middle. Without that, it is hard to win elections. And especially as time goes on because the main Republican base is older, and their numbers are shrinking, while the ever increasing minority vote is firmly in the democratic camp.

valkyrie101
“Republican base is older, and their numbers are shrinking,”

It looks like those young ones are growing up.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey in the state also shows that 62% of Nevada’s voters support repealing the recently passed health care law. That’s a bit higher than support for repeal nationally.

Fifty-seven percent (57%) in Nevada say the new law will be bad for the country.

The new numbers show Reid trailing ex-GOP Chairman Sue Lowden 54% to 39%. Only four percent (4%) would prefer some other candidate while two percent (2%) are not sure.

Well moderate, in some areas, as I said, the far right can indeed elect candidates. Whether Nevada is one of them, who knows. It certainly would not bother me to see Reid replaced. I certainly don’t like him. Most progressives do not. Perhaps even the moderates do not like him. But my post was speaking generally about the problem associated with either creating a third party, or co-opting the Republican party to the far right, and in most states or districts, that will not elect Republican candidates in a general election.

Friendly Fire: Does Yet Another GOP’er Criticizing Fox News Signal A Trend

And if it doesn’t it won’t be for lack of trying to turn it into by Mediaite and the MSM, right Colby?

We’ll see more and more Republicans distancing themselves from extreme elements, including some FOX personalities, in the days ahead. In the toxic environment we now have, some of the rightist elements are alarming many people.

Don’t fret, Janet. You will do yeoman’s work scaling Ailes’ ample backside, I am sure. Once you reach the heights, give my best to CiCi and Jeff.

Ummmm, Colby, do you read your own site’s HEADLINES?
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“Fox News Begins Second Quarter #2 On All Of Cable”

You have that right, royal, I think many repubs are currently rethinking the Beck and Fox bandwagon because it seems to be encouraging lots of crazy, even violent behavior. The recent arrests of a men threatening congressman who voted for the health care bill, where they use language like “socialist” and “communist” to describe the people they have threatened, leads right to Beck and his incendiary comments. Very scarey stuff. And repubs who value their reputation are walking back from that stuff.

same2u says:
April 6, 2010 at 7:13 pm

I have noticed you and ImNotBlue coming out of your self-imposed exiles recently.

Have you missed me? That’s sweet. Sorry… I’ve been a bit busy here. I wish I had your kind of time to post on this website… all. the. time… but I’ve got things to do.

What do I think of the headline? Eh… it’s blurry, not my favorite. Why don’t you post something there? Now that they’ve got what’s-her-name from Newshounds posting daily, I guess your argument of “limiting your speech” really goes out the window, doesn’t it? But then again, you are the guy who said you’ll “break the rules until you get caught.” So I guess that explains it.

It doesn’t explain your obsession… only your inability post.

valkyrie101 says:
April 6, 2010 at 10:04 pm

Yes… all that violence that hasn’t yet happened. Except to folks like Eric Cantor… but he’s an (R), so Democrats encouraging violence his way is acceptable. Right?

Blue,
So you agree that the new header looks like crap? Someone needs to tell him because the kluckers are too busy kissing his ass to say anything.

No I won’t be posting there. Moderation is way over the top at The Dump, designed to protect the fragile feelings of the freepers who pimp out Fox News on a daily basis.

Blue,
When people in the media preach hatred of the government, calling the duly elected president a socialist tyrant and all the rest, making people scarred and angry, all for ratings, and then a bunch of people start blowing up federal buildings, threatening politicians, amassing weapons, and all the rest, I would say there is a problem. In the sixties that problem was on the left. But now it is clearly on the right. You can deny that if you want, you can turn a blind eye on April 19th when the militia people gather to celebrate Timothy McVeighs bombing of the OKC federal building, but all of this is just going to get worse.

Politicians may FINALLY be discovering (years too late) that the lies FOX News fills it’s viewers with actually hurts everyone! Duhh!! But what to do now with the millions of misinformed people who were cynically turned into an angry mob? You know it’s bad when people get so disconnected from reality even nutty right winger Tom Coburn has to take pause.

same2u says:
April 7, 2010 at 3:30 am

Eh… not a fan of the blurry. But then again, it’s not my site… who am I (or you) to complain about his visuals? If it was a visually based site, perhaps… it’s not.

And yes, moderation is strong there… so I guess your brand of hate won’t make it. Funny how a left-wing radio hosts and Newshounds writer is able to comment and discuss… but you still insist it’s THEIR problem, not yours. Funny… in that sort of ego-driven, blind-to-reality kind of way.

valkyrie101 says:
April 7, 2010 at 8:25 am

So when all that stuff was happening under the Bush Administration… when Olbermann was on the air nightly saying it was fascism, and a dictatorship, and blah-blah-blah… and when protesters were out in the street hanging Bush in effigy, pictures of Hitler along with Bush, and so on… things were a-okay?

See, the problem is hypocrisy… as it has always been. The stuff happening now isn’t new… it’s only new that the left is on the receiving side, and they don’t like it. It was cool and fun when their friends were attacking the President… that’s why so many in the media didn’t say “Boo,” when it was going on. However, now that the tables are turned… we have to worry!

Of course, there is no evidence of violent extremists causing mass hysteria, or trying to hurt congress people (except for Cantor… whom you ignore, because it doesn’t fit the spin). So perhaps all of this is in your head…

The problem is not hypocrisy, my friend, since I have never approved of the way Bush was treated, a man I voted for, by the way, the problem is that currently, there has been a dramatic increase in violence and threats of violence directed against the U.S. government and its elected officials, and a dramatic rise in the number of heavily armed “militia” organizations threatening violence. And when you hear these people railing against Obama the communist it is pretty clear where they are getting that. If you wish to turn a blind eye, that is fine. Just be willing to take responsibility the next time a McVeigh event happens.

valkyrie101 says:
April 7, 2010 at 1:15 pm

I’d like to see some evidence for what you’re talking about. Has there been a “dramatic rise” in violently threatening militia groups? And what has anyone on the right said to encourage these people? What have they said that was different than what was being said a few years ago?

What I really don’t understand, and perhaps you can help me with this, is why the left is always concerned about various “militia” groups inside the country, and their alleged violent threats… but never entirely concerned with the ACTUALLY violent terrorist organizations around the globe and within our borders, and their violent activities? Remember a few years ago, when every terrorist arrest was mocked on MSNBC, and warning were just thought to be political tools, and the Hollywood-left was saying things like, “Remember, terrorists are just freedom fighters and parents and children too…” To me, it seems like a double standard.

The mantra of Beck, and many in the tea party movement, is that the government is evil, Obama is not a U.S. citizen who is a communist and wants to take away everyone’s rights, etc. That kind of fear mongering is fueling the psyche, and otherwise providing justification to people who believe in violence. And the heightened number of threats being made against Obama and our elected politicians bears that out.

Why do you say that people on the left do not consider terrorism around the globe a threat? Where do you come up with that? Obama specifically campaigned on the notion that we needed to bring on the war against terror more aggresively in Afganistan, something the Bush administration was only marginally doing. And that is what Obama has done. Really, I am at a loss as to what you are talking about. Do you mean the decision to prosecute terrorists in criminal court? Well, that is what Reagan did, and what he urged to be done, and that is what Bush did most of the time. Or are you referring to the Obama decision to not torture? As if following the precepts of a civilized people, following the Geneva convention, is a cave in to terror? You see, 90% of the accusations against Obama are nothing but unconscienable attacks on our way of life by people who hide behind our flag while seeking its surrender to the values of the terrorists we are fighting. If we torture, we become our enemy, and thus, our enemy has won. So perhaps you can be more specific about the left not taking the threat of terror seriously.

On the other hand, there have been a number of domestic terrorist attacks during the past twenty years, including one recently involving a plane flying into an IRS building, the arrest of several members of a militia group who were planning on murdering policemen, attacks against abortion clinics, a bunch of threats of violence against politicians, including several who voted for health care reform, and several others. If you claim to be concerned about terrorist attacks eminating from throughout the world, do you also express equal concern for attacks by the Timothy McVeigh like militia members? There are now 14,000 militia groups that have been organized in this country and the number is dramatically increasing. Why? Among other things, because people like Beck, who believes that these are the last days and that a melt down of our culture is imminent as a matter of religious faith, are causing people to fear. Telling people that the government is evil, or that the government intends to take away their rights. (As if seeking to help the 40 million uninsured people or the 45,000 people a year who die because they have no insurance is a plot to strip people of their liberty.)

FOX is too much empowering the people who seek the violent over throw of our government. And ironically, hiding behind the perfect rock, Beck claims it is the government who seeks to over throw the people.

valkyrie101 says:
April 7, 2010 at 1:51 pm

The mantra of Beck, and many in the tea party movement, is that the government is evil,

Wrong.

Obama is not a U.S. citizen

Lie.

who is a communist

Socialist.

and wants to take away everyone’s rights, etc.

Fundamentally change the country.

That kind of fear mongering is fueling the psyche, and otherwise providing justification to people who believe in violence.

And it is the EXACT SAME THING that the left was saying a few years ago. Remember how they were screaming against FISA, and the government was spying on citizens? Remember how it was on the cover the of the Times and all over the news? And remember how once Obama re-issued it, nobody said anything… and folks like Olbermann (who were now forced to talk about it) changed their tune, sand said it was a GOOD thing?

Heck, I still can’t get anyone to comment on Obama wanting to allow tracking of cell phone locations! Apparently, the fear mongering a few years ago was good then… but somehow not as important now. I wonder why…

And the heightened number of threats being made against Obama and our elected politicians bears that out.

Are there a heightened number of threats being made against Obama? Is there evidence of that? And I’ve seen threats against members of BOTH PARTIES… so how does that fit into the theory? Doesn’t that contradict the argument that it’s right-wing anger? Did Beck talk about Eric Cantor? There are large gaps in this logic.

Obama specifically campaigned on the notion that we needed to bring on the war against terror more aggresively in Afganistan,

Very true… however, wasn’t this used as evidence -just yesterday- on why Obama is a “moderate?” Because the left didn’t want him to do that? Doesn’t that support my statement that the left isn’t thinking in those terms?

If you claim to be concerned about terrorist attacks eminating from throughout the world, do you also express equal concern for attacks by the Timothy McVeigh like militia members?

Certainly. However, the evidence doesn’t put them in the same category as the international terrorists who are blowing up trains, buildings, and killing innocents left and right, does it? Furthermore (you weren’t on the site for this), but remember the Christmas Day bomber… guy who attempted to blow up a plane on Christmas? The left on this site (and elsewhere) immediately suggested this guy was simply a kook, and nothing to worry about. A guy actually gets on a plane, attempts to detonate, and thankfully fails… and the left shrugged their shoulders. However, some groups around America, operating within the law, talk about how they dislike the current government… and the left is hooting and hollering!

Seems to me, it’s politics… not safety.

There are now 14,000 militia groups that have been organized in this country and the number is dramatically increasing.

Evidence?

Among other things, because people like Beck, who believes that these are the last days and that a melt down of our culture is imminent as a matter of religious faith, are causing people to fear. Telling people that the government is evil, or that the government intends to take away their rights.

Is there evidence of this at all… or just speculation? Have these people been found spouting Beck-isms? Or do you just “assume” that’s who they’re listening to? The problem is, you’re stating things as fact, but have no evidence to support it. You’re building a conclusion based on nothing, I’m afraid.

FOX is too much empowering the people who seek the violent over throw of our government.

Well… that’s also not true, and I’d be interested to see you back it up. Of course, the real answer is, “Free speech is a bitch, isn’t it?” But apparently “dangerous speech,” is just code for, “stuff I don’t agree with.”

Blue,

While I appreciate you passing my message on to the Dollar Dump, you could have least mentioned that you are in agreement with my assessment of his blog header.

Blue,
First of all, to deal with your last point first, free speech is not in question. Beck can say what he wants and the government is certainly not going to interfere, unless he crosses established lines such as advocating violence, etc. And me pointing out how dangerous Beck’s rhetoric is, is certainly not an abridgement of Beck’s free speech, since that can only be done, and the first amendment only a factor, if it is done by the government.

Did Beck question Obama’s citizenship. For the longest time, then he backed off because it was making him (and Rush, Glenn’s mentor) look too silly. Are there millions of people in the tea party movement who question Obama’s citizenship. Yep.

Obama is a Socialist? I do not believe he has ever stated that, and the Democratic Party has certainly not announced that. What is your evidence? By the way, was President Johnson a socialist? He is the one that signed medicare into law. How about Nixon, he was in favor of a national health care plan, was he a socialist? And come to think of it, Nixon was palling around with Mao, could Nixon have been a communist?

In fact, first amendment rights were “temporarily” abridged under Bush via the patriot act, which, among other things, allowed the governement to ease drop on private calls without a warrant. That might be the single greatest encroachment on personal liberty in our history, other than the illegal acts of J. Edgar Hoover.

14,000 militia groups? Oops, sorry, militia “members”. There are, according to the Christian Science Monitor, 127 armed militias in the U.S. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/0329/Hutaree-militia-arrests-point-to-tripling-of-militias-since-2008 The number of militias has tripled since 2008.

Does Beck believe these are the last days? My evidence is circumstantial. Beck is a Mormon, most Mormons believe these are the last days. Mormons believe that America is the chosen nation and that prior to the return of Christ America must melt down, with the government doing all kinds of bad things, and people starving, roving bands of marauders, etc. Beck advocates having plenty of guns to fend off these marauders, lots of food stores, and plenty of gold, and “last days seeds” to barter because he also believes the American monitary system will melt down. I will let you do your own research on the Mormon last days beliefs, and Beck’s hero, W. Cleon Skousen, a Mormon, and a last days melt down believer. You may say, Oh, so your evidence is not definitive. Well, my evidence is just as strong as what Beck relies on to, for example, allege that Obama is a communist and someone who has “a deep seated hatred of white people”..

same2u says:
April 7, 2010 at 4:56 pm

K. I’ll get right on it.

Blue, I missed one. The left shrugged its shoulders over the Christmas bomber? How so, because we did not like the idea of torturing him to get the tainted information that said practice invariably brings? Because he was given miranda rights? I thought you were big on liberty.

Ask Senator Coburn to produce the clips. Show us a Fox NEWS (not a commentary program) making the statements he claims. No video?

I suppose it makes a difference to you, gordon, whether it was a “Fox News” program or a “Fox News” commentary program, but the two really do significantly merge. Do you think the average viewer looks at his watch and says, “hmmm, let’s see, it’s 3 pm, is that a news hour or is that a commentary hour”.

valkyrie101 says:
April 7, 2010 at 5:16 pm

Um… no val. Because the lefties (especially on this site… go back in the archives if you don’t believe me) were committed to the idea that, “this wasn’t a big deal.” A guy brings a bomb on a plane, and we get lucky that it doesn’t go off… and they insist it was a win, and proof the Obama Administration was being proactive in putting steps to prevent international terrorism. Wait… what? We got lucky! America didn’t do anything to stop this guy… the guy stopped himself! And the left continued feeling like they had accomplished something, and that it wasn’t a big deal.

HA!

If you want another example… try to find some stories about Jihad Jane, Jamie, and the rest. American women joining with (or trying to join with) radical-Islamist terrorist groups. Apparently, they’re not as important as some loons sending unfriendly letters. Where are the stories on Mediaite about them? Where is your concern about those folks?

valkyrie101 says:
April 7, 2010 at 5:52 pm

So, you’d say that because Olbermann and Maddow (and Matthews and Shultz, etc.) are left-wing commentators… that MSNBC and probably NBC are all left-wing biased too? I mean, that’s what you were saying about FNC, so I assume the same works for the others too… right?