“no bullets are whizzing around, and the movement won’t unseat any dictators,”
Haha, no, in fact, they want to re-elect the guy who is in charge who is arguably more connected to Wall St. than Bush was. I love how liberals are so blind to this fact.

Who is oppressing whom here?

Is “Wall Street” “oppressing” these jobless, middle-class hipster buffoons?

No, they’re free to come and go as they please.

This is really getting pathetic.

At times, his piece takes an almost belittling tone towards the
movement. He is surprised by their “dazzling” internet savvy and
“impressive” organization — so impressive, in fact, they’ve made it
possible for supporters “anywhere in the world to go online and order
pizzas (vegan preferred) from a local pizzeria that delivers them to
the square” — but he faults them for a lack of demands, and devotes
the later part of his column to offering advice as to how to “channel
their amorphous frustration into practical demands.”

Yeah, it kind of makes it hard to take them seriously when they whine about “the evils of capitalism” and then they use computers and smart phones and other devices provided to them by the capitalist system to order pizzas from capitalist establishments and blog about their anti-capitalist “revolution.”

In short: they’re morons, full of sound and fury, signifying (and accomplishing) nothing.

Behead the rich!!

See Frances Piven’s Awkward Call-And-Response Speech to Wall St. Protester

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/piven-delivers-awkward-call-and-response-speech-to-wall-st-protesters-thieves-and-cannibals/

Collapse the system so we can rebuild it, eh Frances.

How does being critical of Wall Street’s abuses, excesses, and greed necessarily make one anti-capitalist?  Do you have to support that in order to support capitalism?

Spread the blame to include government and you’ve got my support.

But your movement isn’t about getting government off our backs. It’s about saddling us with more of it while diminishing capitalism.

Exactly, collapse the system so they can rebuild it under a more Socialistic model. 

The difference seems to be in the middle east the protesters are demonstrating for freedom.  The protests here that have been predicted and asked for by the extreme left are protesting for less freedoms and more government control.

I don’t think they’re “blind to this fact.”  I think that contributes to why so many liberals are disappointed by him.  On the other hand, it’s pretty clear that it was Bush’s policies that contributed to the collapse in 2008. 

I think that contributes to why so many liberals are disappointed by him.

Bullsh*t.

They’re all going to be telling us next year how important it is to vote for Obama.

Are you really telling us that you wanted it to get WORSE than it currently is? Because we lurched in Obama’s direction starting actually in 2007 (with the Democrat takeover of Congress) and have only just this year begun to apply the brakes.

Gash! I hope this guys do not start something they can’t finish. 

Gash! I hope this guys do not start something they can’t finish. 

I would distinguish greed from a reasonable desire to act in one’s best interest.  Greed is when you become so fixated on self-interest that nothing else matters– not the law, not the collective good.  I want Wall Street to function in ways that encourages economic growth, but I don’t want it to do so in ways that benefit a few at the expense of the many. 

Not all certainly, but there have been numerous protesters who have espoused their belief we should be a communist country and others who although act (and may be) jobless they are actually from wealthy families and aren’t working because they don’t have to or because their career is being a student while they try to ‘find themselves’.   There’s been some interesting interviews and confrontations at these protests.  Its like they are trying to be a grungier and far more to the left version of the tea party.   I jsut wish they’d bathe.

Greed is when you become so fixated on self-interest that nothing else matters– not the law, not the collective good.

If people are abiding by the law, it is of no business of yours what they want or what they choose to do to pursue their self interest. Sure, if they violate the law, they should pay just like everyone else, but as to pursuing what they feel is their own self interest, that’s none of your concern if they’re obeying the law.

Sorry. That’s what private property rights are all about.
 

I want Wall Street to function in ways that encourages economic growth,
but I don’t want it to do so in ways that benefit a few at the expense
of the many.

As it is currently configured, many, many people benefit from our system. Just becuase some benefit more than others, and yet even more people don’t make out well, doesn’t mean the system needs to be destroyed. There are no perfect systems, and the desire to “mandate a perfect system” is, of course, the great folly of every utopian in history.

To the extent that crimes were committed, they should be pursued and prosecuted. But people getting rich does not constitute a crime.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

How does the fact that they’ll still endorse Obama indicate that what I said is b.s.?  Of course they will.  The alternatives are exponentially worse.

Are you suggesting that our current economic situation is primarily attributable to government spending? 

I wouldn’t worry about it.

Nobody who works for a living has even noticed that they’ve “started” anything.

Wow, you read a lot into my comments that I didn’t say.  That makes this rather futile.

How does the fact that they’ll still endorse Obama indicate that what I
said is b.s.?  Of course they will.  The alternatives are exponentially
worse.

You mean we should want to endorse four more years of this administration? What – these last few years haven’t been bad enough?

LOL. No thank you.

Are you suggesting that our current economic situation is primarily attributable to government spending?

Are you suggesting that our current situation has nothing to do with government’s involvement in the free market in the real estate loan and banking sector, or that government entitlement (and since Obama, discretionary as well) spending is somehow not a very big negative factor in our current problem?

Again, futile.

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What I’m hearing is, news journalist talking up a situation that doesn’t exist, trying to push the demonstrators to violence. “If it bleeds, it leads”!!

I don’t necessarily think of it in the terms of the media wanting violence because it makes for a better story.  I see it as a liberal pushing for violence, because that’s how they think things get done.  That’s what they are used to.  I just hope they are ready for the consequences of pressing for violence. 

the cons wanted a revolution? they got it..
the tea party thinks they are the majority? ya the majority of a small minority…
with labor filling state house streets and now the young and informed going aftter banks and corporate thugs..
this is what Fox news and the gop had warned of–they are just on the wrong side—the revolution is against THEM…
WE ARE THE 99%
DEAL WITH IT….
and yes we will vote again–and this time—we will take it all~
praise the lord~

LMAO… blame Bush! Is that what Obama is going to say now instead of “hope and change” 

But you forget it was the democrats Barney and Dodd  that headed the housing demise in this country which started the whole thing!

Good story, bro.

No, they didn’t.  Yes, Fannie and Freddie contributed to the problem.  But we would have the crisis regardless of that piece of legislation– at least that’s what the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission concluded (among others). 

Fannie and Freddie aren’t “legislation.” They were a government-controlled mortgage company.

If there’s just one “bennie” from Obamacare, I hope it’s the right dose of the right meds for Joe!

Right, I wasn’t clear.  I’m assuming NorCalSister was referring to the Dodd-Frank Act.

99% of what? What the hell do you stand for?! Revolution? Revolution against what? Them? Who is “them”? We listened to the protesters, and not one of them made sense.

you didn’t answer the question about spending

sure if you watched the fox news version

So many liberals in one place….So few bullets

I agree that the Wall Street Occupiers and those at Tahir Square are the same ilk.  Just remember what happened to Lara Logan and both groups burn the U.S. flag.

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you didn’t answer the question about spending

I did, actually.

Are you suggesting that our current situation has nothing to do with
government’s involvement in the free market in the real estate loan and
banking sector, or that government entitlement (and since Obama,
discretionary as well) spending is somehow not a very big negative
factor in our current problem?

See what I did thar? My answer was implicit in the question.

Oh noes! I answered a question with a question!

Does everything boil down to “something-something-Fox” for you, or do you acknowledge that things happen in reality regardless of what Fox does? And that they at times aren’t convenient for one political arch-narrative or another?

Just curious.

700 morons get together and block traffic. They call in the big gun idiots from Hollyweird to attempt to get more useful idiots to come on down. And this moron sees the same thing as Egypt?

Really leftists? Is this the best you can do? Why not tell us the Insanity get together was half a million people or something, oh that is right you freaks actually said it.

Oh well, I saw about 100-115 people doing their drum beating and traffic blocking in ABQ NM. It was funny to hear the remarks from those of us working as the moron professors and their useful idiots marching.

I especially liked the Che flag being flown proudly above the crowd. A communist henchman a hero to the marxists, useful idiots.

…..and TAKE A F*CKING BATH YOU FILTHY STINKING HIPPIES!!

I don’t see the Tea party rioting and attacking the police.This is nothing but an Obama and the Democratic party propaganda operation that will continue until the November 2012 election.I

Well…Darlaloon…..Are you contending that the answer  to “Why are you here?” is “I don’t know, but it feels good” makes more sense on MSNBC than it does on FOX……..then you have confirmed my suspicions that you are a legitimate  Bimbo.
That’s quite a feat….Mama must really be proud.
 

Even the cops are on to the liberal mob…..Tea Party protesters carry their flags on poles….Cops forbid the liberals from having flagpoles because they are famous for using them as destructive tools and weapons.
This vermin has no moral lines to cross…They will do anything to  get their evil acts on You Tube.
“That’s, like….where it’s at, Man.”

Revolution against the OligarchyA form of power structure in which power effectively rests with a small number of people. These people could be distinguished by royalty, wealth, family ties, corporate, or military control. Sound familiar?