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Peggy Noonan Explains Calling President Obama A ‘Loser’ On Morning Joe

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In a Wall Street Journal op-ed Friday morning, conservative columnist Peggy Noonan channeled her inner middle-schooler, calling President Obama a “loser,” and likening White House Press Secretary Jay Carney to a “ferret with flop sweat.”

While there are people on both sides who might foresee the inside of a gym locker in the President’s future, Noonan’s current conclusions about the debt ceiling negotiations are based on complete nonsense. Noonan appeared on Morning Joe to defend her comments.

Ms. Noonan begins by talking about how the “Republican establishment reasserted itself this week,” but if her idea of winning behavior is Affleck-fueled fervor that collapses like a souffle´ in a noisy house of cards, then maybe the President should count his blessings that she considers him a “loser.”

Noonan’s overall premise is that “nobody loves Obama,” which may be true of the political media lunchtable that she sits at, but the President’s record number of small donors suggests otherwise. Noonan insulates her argument against facts by declaring that he’s an unloved loser no matter how many people support him, or how many times he wins. “He has supporters and bundlers and contributors, he has voters, he may win.”

Yes, there is disappointment among those supporters, but their bewilderment at the President’s obsession with compromise is nothing new. As manifested in the current debt ceiling debate, that willingness to bend himself into a pretzel isn’t aimed to please those who love him, or to placate those who hate him. It is designed to appeal to “independents,” those voters who don’t pay enough attention to know the difference between the two parties, but pay just enough attention to vote.

The President’s correct assessment of the debt ceiling crisis as a “hostage situation” is directly at odds with his apparent willingness to capitulate, but that’s not the substance of Noonan’s criticism. No, Exhibit “A” is an anonymous quote from a “hard-line progressive” who trots out the too-cool cliche´:

“I never loved Barack Obama. That said, among my crowd who did ‘love’ him, I can’t think of anyone who still does.” Why is Mr. Obama different from Messrs. Clinton and Bush? “Clinton radiated personality. As angry as folks got with him about Nafta or Monica, there was always a sense of genuine, generous caring.” With Bush, “if folks were upset with him, he still had this goofy kind of personality that folks could relate to. You might think he was totally misguided but he seemed genuinely so. . . . Maybe the most important word that described Clinton and Bush but not Obama is ‘genuine.’” He “doesn’t exude any feeling that what he says and does is genuine.”

That “hard-line progressive” probably requested anonymity out of embarrassment. At least George W. Bush was genuinely misguided? This is the kind of idiocy that’s ruining this country, the fact that any political commentator could advance such a premise with a straight face. Such an observation should be made only as an indictment of the morons in our electorate who vote based on beer-companion criteria, not as a criticism of President Obama.

Noonan’s offhand criticism of Jay Carney (“who stands there looking like a ferret with flop sweat”) is not only juvenile and nonsensical (why is a ferret playing Texas Hold ‘Em? Everyone knows their game is blackjack), it’s completely at odds with reality. As a colleague and a reporter, I was disappointed in Carney’s attack on Ed Henry, but overall, this debt crisis has made Jay Carney come alive like Peter Frampton on a defibrillator. After months of calculatingly bland White House briefings, Carney’s pushback against Republican efforts to hand the grenade to President Obama has made the Brady Briefing Room interesting again.

That’s really what is at the heart of Noonan’s criticism, a desire to hang a Republican disaster around a Democratic president’s neck. Raising the debt ceiling is Congress’ job, but Noonan, et al, want President Obama to not only provide them with a cigarette and a match, but to smoke it for them, too.

Noonan says, in her conclusion, that President Obama is losing because “he is not a devil, an alien, a socialist. He is a loser.”

As far as the debt ceiling goes, that remains to be seen. I happen to agree with Lawrence O’Donnell that the result will be what President Obama has wanted all along: a clean increase to the debt ceiling. With the August 2 deadline looming, and no passage of a compromise in sight, Republicans will have little choice come Monday. If President Obama doesn’t blink, and insists on a debt ceiling increase through 2012, this will be an unmitigated victory for him. All of the compromises he’s offered to this point will be forgotten like the patter of a hostage negotiator when the SWAT team finally takes the shot.

This must be a new trend for conservatives, calling the Sarah Palin movie “The Undefeated,” calling President Obama a “loser.” Passing health care reform, ending DADT, killing Osama bin Laden and the Birther meme with the same bullet, and the 2010 lame duck compromise are just part of the President’s “win” column. The President’s first term has been disappointing in many ways, but (and this seems really obvious) conservatives like Noonan should wait to call him a “loser” until he actually loses something.

Update: Noonan appeared on MSNBC’s Morning Joe to defend her comments, and Mika Brzezinski pointed out that it doesn’t seem to matter, to mercurial critics, what the President does. Noonan jumps on the “invisible man” bandwagon, even though, just six days ago, she was asking the President to “get out of the way” so Congress could go ahead and pass that “Gang of Six” proposal.

Here’s the clip, from MSNBC:

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  • Anonymous

    defend, defend, defend the president tommy

  • Anonymous

    Aww.  Did Peggy upset you, Tommy?  

    It’s funny that you call Ms. Noonan a “middle schooler”, then reference Crazy Larry.  Have you seen what comes out of your side on a daily basis?  Is there a liberal that has yet to call Republicans “terrorists” over the last couple weeks?  

    But, forget all that.  What does Strom Nartman have to say?  

  • Anonymous

    Ms. Noonan is past her fresh date.  This column is just more proof.  She’s the Tories Tory, so to speak, but she’s gone off the rails, to use a cliche, reluctantly.  

  • Greg

    “why is a ferret playing Texas Hold ‘Em? Everyone knows their game is blackjack”
    Lol… great job as usual Tommy.  Noonan’s only option in this case is appeal to those persuaded by verbal assault.  The right’s halmark achievement from this period (C.C & B) is parody of policy… a tiny Stonehenge.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlf5ucFanpY
     
    “It’s not your job to be as confused as Nigel”.  

  • Eugeniusmaximus

    I think Peggy is on the rag. She needs to chill out.

  • Anonymous

    uh oh…. someone has their grumpy pants on this morning Tommy. Peggy is just trying to regain some credibility after supporting Obama.

  • Celisary45

    Peggy Noonan is “WHORE” for the Conservative Far  Right, an has been for years.  She does not speak for me or for that matter WHO THE HELL DOES SHE SPEAK FOR??????  She speaks for the Propaganda Arm of the Republican Party, NEWS CORP. (Parent Company of Fox news).  The Wall Street Journal was once a great American newspaper but since the take over by News Corp, (FOX NEWS) it has become a Propaganda Rag of the F0x-Republican Party!!!!! Pathetic, Bitch!!!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T45FOLFO6XH46JGYX4ICTP6LGU Bryan N

    “The man’s father is a wonderful human being,” Reid, D-Nev., told
    students at Del Sol High School when asked about the president’s
    policies. “I think this guy is a loser.”

    Shortly after the event
    Reid called the White House to apologize, his spokeswoman Tessa Hafen
    said. Reid spoke with Bush adviser Karl Rove, asking him to convey the
    apology to Bush, who was traveling in Europe.

    The Nevada Democrat expressed “regret for the comments, that it was inappropriate,”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T45FOLFO6XH46JGYX4ICTP6LGU Bryan N

    Forgot to take your medication I see

  • Taters N Beans

    Poor Peggy misses the good ole Gipper days. Unfortunately The Gipper couldn’t get the nomination today as he would be a considered a commie pinko socialist by the 25% of America (teatards) who are running things these days.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, Tommy, Peggy Noonan obviously REALLY upset you. Is it because it’s too close to the truth?

  • Dflojak

    I guess you should review the tape, dipshit. Joe had Mika’s lovely tight arse all puckered up after he stated during the Noonan conversations that they (mika and he) had been on capitol hill yesterday, and the prevailing sentiment from left wing legislators was that this president was basically an empty suit. Shocker. He has pushed all responsibility onto the legislators and shown no leadership through the turmoil. And that’s from the left. So sorry the truth hurts so much, but a normal reaction from a progressive pos celery, call the opposition names and don’t make a single valid point. Poser.

  • Anonymous

    I see Noonan has decided to abandon her normal maturity and join the House of Representatives on the playground. This is exactly the kind of rhetoric that helps nobody, regardless of which side it comes from.

  • Dflojak

    Tommy, your lipstick is still in the presidents suit pants, could you come pick it up please. He’s showered and off to another fund raiser, and besides, that color clashes with his buttskin tone.

  • Dflojak

    Tommy, your lipstick is still in the presidents suit pants, could you come pick it up please. He’s showered and off to another fund raiser, and besides, that color clashes with his buttskin tone.

  • realdeal

    poor peggy, her husband left this old hag for greener pastures. She is  a bitter, sexually fustrated old lady lady with no kids  who is left home to play with her 20 cats. 
     
    her only ronald reagan blow up doll must ahev strung a leak last night so she couldn’t get satisfied.

  • Anonymous

    You are really dumb .

    Or , so you understand :

    YOU are DUMBB !!!  Fox News is RIGHT !!!  DEMOCRATS suk !!!

  • Anonymous

    It’s about time the “elite” catch up to the rest of America.  We knew Obama was a loser long before he slithered his way into the WH.  This bozo make Carter look good.  He is consistently on the fence regarding every major issue, always afraid to lose this or that vote or to anger this or that special interest group.  Take a stand Barry, show that you have at least an ounce of conviction.  The only time I’ve seen him in charge and leading is when he’s filling out his basketball brackets.  This man is NOT a president.

  • RailroadMike

    If Obama is a loser then we need more losers in the Beltway. If the health insurance and bankers had their way it would mean a “Polite Genocide” of the American Middle Class.

  • Anonymous

    Somebody can’t handle the truth.  Obama is a failure, accept it.

  • Smg81992

    Peggy Noonan is obnoxious.

  • Smg81992

    Peggy Noonan is obnoxious.

  • Anonymous

    Thank God for honest journalists like Peggy Noonan.  While Obama continues to destroy our economy and sell off America, piece by piece to the Chinese, the left-wing hack press continues to cover his ass.  Hopefully other will follow suit and like Noonan, begin to tell the truth about this assclown.

  • Anonymous

    Thank God for honest journalists like Peggy Noonan.  While Obama continues to destroy our economy and sell off America, piece by piece to the Chinese, the left-wing hack press continues to cover his ass.  Hopefully other will follow suit and like Noonan, begin to tell the truth about this assclown.

  • Greg

    Your best poetry to this point.

  • Anonymous

    Just in the news today…

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/43941459The U.S. economy grew less than expected in the second quarter as consumer spending barely rose, and growth braked sharply in the prior quarter, a government report showed on Friday.Growth in gross domestic product—a measure of all goods and services produced within U.S. borders—rose at a 1.3 percent annual rate, the Commerce Department said.First-quarter output was sharply revised down to a 0.4 percent pace from 1.9 percent.Economists had expected the economy to expand at a 1.8 percent rate in the second quarter.In addition, fourth-quarter growth was revised down to a 2.3 percent pace from 3.1 percent, indicating that the economy had already started slowing before the high gasoline prices and supply chain disruptions from Japan hit.Economists had expected the economy would show signs of perking up by now with Japan supply constraints easing and gasoline prices off their high, but data has disappointed.This and the sharp downward revisions to the prior quarters suggest a more troubling and fundamental slowdown might be underway.http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-has-more-cash-on-hand-than-the-us-government-2011-7Here's something to keep in mind as you follow this evening’s congressional debate over the debt ceiling.According to the latest daily statement from the U.S. Treasury, the government had an operating cash balance of $73.8 billion at the end of the day yesterday.
    Apple’s last earnings report (PDF here) showed that the company had $76.2 billion in cash and marketable securities at the end of June.
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-has-more-cash-on-hand-than-the-us-government-2011-7#ixzz1TVUM2IUshttp://nationaljournal.com/magazine/will-sloppy-drilling-off-the-coast-of-cuba-threaten-florida-gulf-beaches–20110728Sometime over the next three months, if all goes according to plan, Cuban workers on a Chinese-built, Spanish-owned rig will start drilling for oil in the mile-deep waters just off the north coast of Cuba, 70 miles from the Florida Keys.Obama’s Exclusive George Soros WaiversUnder Title IV of Dodd-Frank, hedge funds were required to abide by new registration and reporting requirements in an attempt to better police systemic risk (not that the feckless Securities and Exchange Commission has ever been able to fulfill that mission). To evade the regulations, Soros and other firms have used a recently passed rule allowing so-called family offices to shield themselves from both registration and disclosure rules that would have subjected Soros Inc. to a new “Financial Stability Oversight Council.”http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2011/07/29/obamas_exclusive_george_soros_waivers

  • Anonymous

    Peggy Noonan is a loser, saw her this morning on Morning Joe, and poor peggy looks like a wax manequin….with a poor wig!!

  • Anonymous

    I understand that Tommy is a flaming lib, he’s publicly admitted it.  What I have a problem with is that he chomps at the bit to cover every story that holds Obama accountable.  Deflecting any criticism as a failure of character by the person bold enough to speak out about our dear leader.

  • Anonymous

    I understand that Tommy is a flaming lib, he’s publicly admitted it.  What I have a problem with is that he chomps at the bit to cover every story that holds Obama accountable.  Deflecting any criticism as a failure of character by the person bold enough to speak out about our dear leader.

  • etrigan

    Corporations continue to hide billions of dollars in assets and move to other countries to avoid paying taxes and getting cheap labor is destroying America..something you failed to recognize. come back to reality

  • Dflojak

    Very astute comment. Oh, can you remind who said the Republicans are acting like juveniles, and the other statement about not receiving social security checks for seniors. Those were responsible statements, right. I just can’t remember who said it.

     There is one point about this entire debate I need to reiterate: In the last issue of Time magazine, it stated that immediately after the ’10 elections, after Boehner was “promoted” to speaker of the house when republicans got the majority, our compromise hero, Mr. “we won”, could not find a phone number to reach Boehner to congratulate him. That’s how hard the left has tried to reach out and make the compromises necessary to get this government under control.  Not one single attempt to reach Boehner for two years of his presidency, That is a disgrace.

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t failed to recognize that point, I actually agree with you.  I’m all for closing all of those tax loopholes, I think it’s quite disgusting for any corporation to evade taxes.

  • http://twitter.com/DrKC4 Kerry Jacoby

    I can’t believe anyone is buying Obama’s “small donors” claim. If you give less than $200, they do NOT take your identifying information. I have been receiving requests for small amounts of money from OFA for more than two years. If someone wanted to give a LOT of money, all they had to do was repeatedly give $199 without providing identification. It’s not hard. And you may recall that, even thought there are technical ways to prevent this, the Obama campaign CHOSE NOT TO USE THEM during the 2008 campaign.

    Obama is raising money from his millionaire/billionaire friends, not ordinary people. Let’s face it. Obama has made sure he had no “small donors” to draw from anyway–because they HAVE NO JOBS.

  • http://twitter.com/DrKC4 Kerry Jacoby

    “Noonan’s offhand criticism of Jay Carney (“who stands there looking like
    a ferret with flop sweat”) is not only juvenile and nonsensical (why is
    a ferret playing Texas Hold ‘Em? Everyone knows their game is
    blackjack)..” Either I have missed something here, or you don’t know what “flop sweat” is. What does it have to do with poker?

  • Anonymous

    Let’s review:

    Commerce Dept. revises DOWNWARD the Q1 to a measly 0.4 percent growth rate And GDP is at only 1.3 percent ANNUAL RATE. The Commerce Dept. has revised DOWNWARD ALL growth rate projections.

    Apple Corp has more cash on hand than the whole federal government.

    Cuba is going to drill for oil and gas just SEVENTY MILES off the Florida Keys, but Obama doesn’t want US companies to drill there and drilling rigs are leaving the US in droves. (I’m SURE the Cubans will be more environmentally careful than the US will!)

    Obama’s EXTREMELY WEALTHY donors like Soros are not going to suffer any consequences under any of Obama’s regulations- only the moderately wealthy will. 

    Yep, Tommy, Noonan’s right. Obama IS a loser, but in reality, the nation is a far bigger loser under his reign.

  • Anonymous

    Under Obama the African American middle class is dissapearing, so I think you are more correct than you probably know.  If you keep them dependent on the government, they will have no choice but to vote for the dems, because that is who fills up the public trough.  Why anyone would chose economic enslavement is beyond me.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/28/african-american-middle-class-eroding-as-unemployment-rate-soars/?test=latestnews

  • Anonymous

    Under Obama the African American middle class is dissapearing, so I think you are more correct than you probably know.  If you keep them dependent on the government, they will have no choice but to vote for the dems, because that is who fills up the public trough.  Why anyone would chose economic enslavement is beyond me.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/28/african-american-middle-class-eroding-as-unemployment-rate-soars/?test=latestnews

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    In a Mediaite comment Friday morning, Socialist/Lib/Kenyan/Muslim   well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust channeled his inner middle-schooler, calling Peggy Noonan a “loser,” and a “horrible writer who answers questions on political talk shows like she knows WTF she is talking about, even though most people in her own party disowned her years ago after saying Sarah Palin was the result of the “vulgarization in American Politics”" and likening the Tea Party commenters on Mediaite to “ferrets with flop sweat”, and “anti social mouth breathers who probably got picked on in grade school”.

  • Anonymous

    Misogynist and gross comment. 

  • Anonymous

    Both sides. I keep saying this. Both sides.

    Noonan was a voice of reason until this diatribe. As far as the rest of the he-said, she-said nonsense that dominates political discourse these days, that is part of the problem.

    As if the Republicans ever reach across the aisle or to the White House.
    Seriously. Both sides are behaving like little children.

    Everyone wants to make sure to blame the other guy. If you were fair about it, you wold point out that the GOP in the House has been pretty offensive themselves as have the Dems.

    Both sides. The only thing these clowns do in a bipartisan way is to behave like 5 year old children who have had too much sugar.

  • Blah Blah

    Ah, that’s “political grace” for you. Noonan proves once again that civility is a virtue only for others.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent point, Kerry. 

  • The Dweller Ysul

    You’re right.  He’s a two-term president.

  • http://thefunemployed.blogspot.com/ rance

    This dimwit was singing Obama’s praises a couple of years ago and telling everyone who saw the President for the light weight he was that they were stupid, ignorant, unsophisticated, and racist.

     

  • Harry Flashman

    I’m not a Noonan fan, but she’s right about some of this. Carney isn’t a ferret. That’s far too endearing. He’s the ferret’s more unpleasant cousin, the weasel. And even that gives him more credit than he deserves.

    Watching Obama and his Crew of Misfit Toys slowly circling the drain tright now is satisfying, but I’ll save any rejoicing until they’re so caught in the whirlpool that they can’t possibly pull themselves out.

    Until them I’ll be cautiously optimistic that they’ll flush with the offal as they should. 

  • Anonymous

    “Noonan was a voice of reason until this diatribe. ”

    Translation – Noonan was great when she supported my messiah, now that she’s been critical, I have no use for her.

  • http://twitter.com/CJEssex Carolyn

     If anything President Obama is guilty of too much fairness and allowing idiots on the hill to represent.  Unfortunately some really dumb states voted for these clowns not knowing that they could bring this country to the brink of economic disaster.  I believe President Obama has handled this circus quite well…and all these people such as Peggy Noonan and others disrespecting the President couldn’t lead themselves to an intelligent conclusion …just shows how ignorant they are of govt. and how it operates.  Did he …your President not say the system is Broken?  I guess you see that now or do you? I’m guessing probably not.

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    The President’s first term has been disappointing in many ways – Tommy Christopher

    See, to assume Tommy is not on Noonan’s side, one would only have to read between the lines.

    I can assume no Democrat is really happy with Obama beit as a Drama queen or as suggested here.. a “Loser”… Guys, the tea party are also democrats, you still have a chance to save face. grab hold.

  • Anonymous

    Nice to see that you lefties on here are keeping it classy.

  • http://www.IndiaCurry.com Yogi Gupta

    Peggy was a darling of progressives when she bad-mouthed Sarah Palin.
    ‘I happen to agree with Lawrence O’Donnell’ – Tommy
    Lawrence O’Donnell described himself as a socialist on his own show on MSNBC. I am glad Tommy agrees with O’Donnell and Obama in the same article. May be fundamental transforamtion has already begun.
    ‘Noonan should wait to call him a “loser” until he actually loses something.’ – Tommy
    Tommy thinks Obama won the  2010 elections.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is a loser. He’s trying to lead like he did in Illinois. Vote “present” and hands off so I don’t get dirty.

    He wants so much for America to be like Western Europe. He wants everyone to be “equal”. He wants to keep the handouts going to the leeches and parasites to get votes.

    Yes, he’s a loser.

  • gar1956

     It is designed to appeal to “independents,” those voters who don’t pay enough attention to know the difference between the two parties, but pay just enough attention to vote. As Tommy admits it’s all about the politics.

  • Anonymous

    i wonder if carney ever made it to school with his lunch money. maybe he can do a “it gets better” video…

  • Pavlov60

    I am the son of a purple heart veteran, who has always been patriotic but can no longer harbor pride for my country. I can only agree with Peggy. Noonan Many reasons, nancy pelosi infamous “You have to Vote for the bill to see what’s in it” Although not disingenuous as is much of what passes through obamma lipps, that statement alone is the philosophy of those running the democratic party.    It never ceases to amaze me  how many of the media cant face the facts, that he consistently says one things and does another.  A person more suited for selling used cars at a fifth hand lot then sitting at the pilot seat as he follows the wake of Grease   

  • Anonymous

    This is amazing.  Bush was called every vile name in the book, and that wasn’t deemed worthy of media scrutiny.  But Peggy Noonan calls Obama a “loser” and the liberal media gets angry. 

    In reality, there are only two options here.  (1)  You can call Obama a loser right now, like Noonan did, or (2) you can wait until the results of next year’s election come in, when it will be made official. 

  • Anonymous

    Remember this the next time Fox starts whining about indoctrination of our youth.

    Censorship at ‘Fox News U’
    http://www.alternet.org/news/151821/censorship_at_%27fox_news_u%27

  • http://www.IndiaCurry.com Yogi Gupta

    Need some rephrasing to explain Tommy on Peggy about Carney.
    ‘Noonan’s criticism of Jay Carney is not only juvenile and nonsensical but at odds with reality’ — Tommy
    In the same paragraph Tommy describes ‘months of calculating bland White House briefings’ by Jay Carney.
    After all those months, the only thing Jay Carney has done recently is an attempt to re-live the fight with Fox using Ed Henry as a proxy. Tommy himself states ‘As a colleague and a reporter, I was disappointed in Carney’s attack on Ed Henry’
    I am glad Tommy is a columnist who describes himself as a reporter and not a journalist. Noonan is also a columnist reporter and not a journalist. Tommy can not call Noonan as a colleague becuase they are both on the oppsite extremes of each other regarding Obama. Journalists have to at least appear as non-partisan, the columnist reporters are just political hacks.

  • http://www.IndiaCurry.com Yogi Gupta

    Need some rephrasing to explain Tommy on Peggy about Carney.
    ‘Noonan’s criticism of Jay Carney is not only juvenile and nonsensical but at odds with reality’ — Tommy
    In the same paragraph Tommy describes ‘months of calculating bland White House briefings’ by Jay Carney.
    After all those months, the only thing Jay Carney has done recently is an attempt to re-live the fight with Fox using Ed Henry as a proxy. Tommy himself states ‘As a colleague and a reporter, I was disappointed in Carney’s attack on Ed Henry’
    I am glad Tommy is a columnist who describes himself as a reporter and not a journalist. Noonan is also a columnist reporter and not a journalist. Tommy can not call Noonan as a colleague becuase they are both on the oppsite extremes of each other regarding Obama. Journalists have to at least appear as non-partisan, the columnist reporters are just political hacks.

  • Anonymous

    As manifested in the current debt ceiling debate, that willingness to bend himself into a pretzel isn’t aimed to please those who love him, or to placate those who hate him. It is designed to appeal to “independents,” those voters who don’t pay enough attention to know the difference between the two parties, but pay just enough attention to vote.

    Poll: Obama’s Approval Rating Among Independents Craters To Only 31%

    Where I come from (exit 5), we call someone who FAILS so hard, a LOSER.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not nice to call the POTUS a loser. Just call him Carter II. It’s the same thing, but more descriptive.

  • Anonymous

    It’s not nice to call the POTUS a loser. Just call him Carter II. It’s the same thing, but more descriptive.

  • Impavid_donna

    Wow – you are not very bright are you…had to reach deep…..

  • Anonymous

    so you want a dictatorship? please go kill yourself or move to cuba…

  • http://twitter.com/Good_Lt Good Lt.

    Welcome to the party, Peggy.

    Some of us knew this in 2008.

    You voted for the loser.

  • realheadline

    What’s to explain? The truth needs no expaination.

  • gajack

    Excuse me but I think she was referring to Joe Doucheborough (who is a total loser)!

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    we need only look towards Cuba to see where we are headed..if we don’t quit the spending and turning the majority of our society into Government workers…watch the news..

  • Anonymous

    i hope so, then you poor douchebags are really f*cked.  lolololol

  • Anonymous

    I agree.  Why does the far left hate attractive conservative women so much?

  • Anonymous

    Funny you should mention Mika, Tommy, but not mention this from the same show:

    Democrats Behind Closed Doors Are Saying “This President Has Been Invisible, He Is Not a Leader” (Video)Scarborough reports what co-host Mika Brzezinski heard Demcrats saying on Capitol Hill

    http://www.hapblog.com/2011/07/democrats-behind-closed-doors-are.html

  • Anonymous

    Tommy, I love you and prayed for you when you had your heart trouble.  But you are off base here.  obama is acting like a child.  He is in over his head and the country has figured it out.  Stay healthy Tommy.  I still love you lots.

  • Anonymous

    President Obama Is A ‘Loser’  Of ” EPIC ” Proportions. 

    Worse Yet,  He Is Single Handedly Taking Every American Man, Woman & Child down With Him……On Purpose.

  • Anonymous

     We shouldn’t be calling a man who is mentally deficient a “loser”. Obama obviously has a severe mental impairment. He needs treatment, not scorn.

  • Anonymous

    It’s Barack Obama’s credit gift card scam. Issa should have investigated it like I said two years ago so that Obama couldn’t get away with the same fraud again.

  • Anonymous

    …eh…the ferret is a member of the weasel family, so Noonan was pretty close.

  • DYNAMITEDENISE54@YAHOO.COM

    SHE IS THE NUMBER ONE FLIP FLOP OF THE WORLD. NEEDS TO LOOK AT HERSELF AND SEE WHO IS THE LOSER HOW DID SHE LOSE HER HUSBAND. AND SHE CAN.T EVEN FIND HIM LET ALONE TALK ABOUT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

  • guest

    One day he is “over his head”, the next he is using “Chicago-style politics”.  Never mind the inconsistencies…

  • Anonymous

    @TommyChristopher –This was one of the funnier (in an absurd funny way) columns you have penned.  Aside from the gratuitous ad hominem attacks on G.W. Bush, you go on to totally misrepresent what Noonan says.

    Come on, Christopher; you have to be smart enough to understand the context of her column.  She nails him for what he is, or probably better said at least what he projects.  Who, exactly, are the people that “love” him now?  I’m talking about HIM, not the Democratic party, or progressive causes.  HIM.  What does he exude as president on a personal level?  Of course leftist-minded people are going to defend him because he’s the titular head of the party.  But what do they think about him deep down? And what does he inspire now, after all of the promise of hope and change, etc.?  

    Noonan even says that he may still win, but is that the be all and end all?  Winning? Cue Charlie Sheen.  I guess it would be if it actually translated into something, but winning for winning’s sake?  What’s the point? 

    You really need to take your blinders off and read Noonan’s column again.  When you do, come back and report honestly about it, vs. from a partisan viewpoint. 

  • i420

    Oh, you can call him a loser Noonan…far more accurate and appropriate would be to call him a caver. Hes become such a loser for sake, of his pathetic attempts to appease a herd of thoughtless reactionaries whos main purpose in this world is scream from roof tops how pissed off they are that no one came along and threw a sack of money at their feet for being a member of society’s boat load of under-achievers.

  • Anonymous

    What are they talking about? Boehner can´t get a vote from his party and somehow if the President would pick up the phone all these right wing crazy nutjobs would follow his lead? The radikalinskis can´t be reached by reasonable arguments, they have no sense of responsibility, all they want to do is to get Obama out of the WH and take the country back to the 19th century.  At all costs. By any means necessary.

  • http://www.facebook.com/aio.seven Aio Seven

    That biatch is way past the rag.

  • RUSS

    THE BIG DIFF BETWEEN BUSH ,CLINTON AND OBAMA IS SIMPLE .OBAMA IS BLACK AND RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL IN THIS COUNTRY.

  • realheadline

    Another strawman arguement by a halfwit lib.

  • http://www.facebook.com/aio.seven Aio Seven

    Because they are about as “smart” as you are.

  • RUSS

    GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF YEARS TO UNDO ALL THE WRONG THAT BUSH DID TO US. IN 8 YEARS HE ALMOST RUINED US.GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN 4 YEARS TO CORRECT IT

  • NT

    Why would someone of her stature stoop to calling names?  She’s from the generation who knows better.  The office of the Presidency should be respected, no matter who’s in office, and we don’t need name calling during this time when our country’s in such trouble.

  • Anonymous

    Very unprofessional commenting!!!!

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure that any year now the Messiah will be presenting his plan to cut the deficit to Harry Reid for approval by the Senate. He just needs a little more time to tweak it.

  • Anonymous

    I’m sure that any year now the Messiah will be presenting his plan to cut the deficit to Harry Reid for approval by the Senate. He just needs a little more time to tweak it.

  • Anonymous

    lol@ joe scarbrough claiming that democrats trashed Obama in front of them….lolololololol,,,,he wont ever let mika talk….joe is trying to recover from the ass kicking lawerence o’donnell gave him yesterday….oh peggy while youre talking please tell us where dick cheney told you the weapons of mass destruction are hidden….YOU SHOULD BE IN PRISON WITH THEM

  • Anonymous

    lol@ joe scarbrough claiming that democrats trashed Obama in front of them….lolololololol,,,,he wont ever let mika talk….joe is trying to recover from the ass kicking lawerence o’donnell gave him yesterday….oh peggy while youre talking please tell us where dick cheney told you the weapons of mass destruction are hidden….YOU SHOULD BE IN PRISON WITH THEM

  • Anonymous

    peggy forgot to talk about the real loser john boehner.  obviously krystol didn’t.

    bill krystol:

    “Last night, Speaker Boehner toyed with adding a gimmicky balanced budget amendment provision to the Republican budget bill in order to try to get the final handful of votes he needs for passage. He thought better of this last night, and didn’t do so. He should continue to avoid
    pointless and embarrassing gimmicks to try to secure a last-gasp victory on the House floor.

    Such a tainted “win” would truly be dead on arrival  in the Senate. And it would do nothing to increase McConnell’s leverage, or Boehner’s own, if and when a Senate-passed bill comes over to the House this weekend.”

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/what-boehner-should-do-now_577745.html

  • Anonymous

    peggy forgot to talk about the real loser john boehner.  obviously krystol didn’t.

    bill krystol:

    “Last night, Speaker Boehner toyed with adding a gimmicky balanced budget amendment provision to the Republican budget bill in order to try to get the final handful of votes he needs for passage. He thought better of this last night, and didn’t do so. He should continue to avoid
    pointless and embarrassing gimmicks to try to secure a last-gasp victory on the House floor.

    Such a tainted “win” would truly be dead on arrival  in the Senate. And it would do nothing to increase McConnell’s leverage, or Boehner’s own, if and when a Senate-passed bill comes over to the House this weekend.”

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/what-boehner-should-do-now_577745.html

  • Anonymous

    Well, at least she didn’t call him a “Looser”.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CQWUTBF2KSSVOXCR4PSN66L2PM James

    she called the presadent a loser. I’m shocked The white house didn’t call and get her fired

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CQWUTBF2KSSVOXCR4PSN66L2PM James

    she called the presadent a loser. I’m shocked The white house didn’t call and get her fired

  • Anonymous

    Maybe for Obama’s August 3rd, 50th Birthday Obamafest 2011 Barackapalooza in Chi-Town, he can fly the remaining Beatles in on corporate jets to perform this song for him:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KynpC1e9I9E

  • NT

    I have given donations of $10.00 periodically and they have enough identifying information to keep in touch with me via email & snail mail.  And, I will keep giving in small amounts because it does add up.

  • Anonymous
  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    Fact: Looser is the correct teabagger spelling of loser.

  • Anonymous

    lol…noonan and scarbrough are pissed because Obama wont step in and stop the republicans from committing political suicide…hes laying back letting the crazys on the right further expose themselves…republican blackmail attempts are backfiring fast…and these pundits who have spent months lying are gonna fall right along with the tparty…if the country defaults and corporations bottom line is affected they will have learned their lesson and wont continue to pay these wingnut pundits like scarbrough and noonan who juiced these baggers up to the point where making a deal is impossible…its over for them….HEY HOBBITS….THIS IS WHAT OVERPLAYING YOUR HAND LOOKS LIKE…..I GUESS CALLING OBAMAS BLUFF DIDNT WORK OUT SO WELL….NOT WITH HARRY RIED STANDING IN THE WAY…….LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL…….DUMBASSES

  • Anonymous

    Are you saying that Tommy reflexively defends Obama? ;)

  • Anonymous

    Find yourself a moon to cover it with yogurt, genius.

  • Anonymous

    If he did, it would be the only job Obama “created or saved”.

  • Anonymous

    If he did, it would be the only job Obama “created or saved”.

  • Anonymous

    The White House has lost all control of Morning Joe…..

    Some heads are going to roll over this…..Peggy won’t be getting any more invitations to the “Whiney Cheesy” parties for a long time over this.

  • Anonymous

    The White House has lost all control of Morning Joe…..

    Some heads are going to roll over this…..Peggy won’t be getting any more invitations to the “Whiney Cheesy” parties for a long time over this.

  • TXarc

    LOL

    Obama is living in Noonan’s head rent free.

  • Holistic

    So, Tommy is offended about Noonan comments about his ultra left heros. It sad tommy, get over it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    Apparently the teabagger spelling of “President” is “presadent” as well. I really hope one of these idiot teabaggers publishes a teabagger dictionary so I can decipher just what the hell they are trying to say.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: No brains means no plans party! Obama’s out in 2013!

  • Anonymous

    THERES A FULL SCALE DENIAL OF CULPUABILITY CAMPAIGN HAPPENING ON MSNBC….THEIR PUNDITS ARE ON THE RUN TRYING FEVERISHLY TO DISENGAGE FROM THE BAGGERS….TOO LATE CHUCK TODD, ANDREA MITCHELL, LUKE RUSSERT,  JOE SCARBROUGH, PEGGY NOONAN, KELLY O’DONNELL AND THE REST OF YOU MSNBC CORPORATE WHOREING MEDIA PUNDITS….THEY ARE EVEN TALKING ABOUT SELLING ALL THE GOLD IN FT KNOX TO PREVENT DEFAULT….HAHAHAHAHAHA….GAWDDDDDD DAMMMMMMMM

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    Apparently the teabagger way to spell “heroes”, is “heros”. I am getting better at deciphering these dopes’ spelling.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: He was over his head when he became president and hasn’t done squat right ever sense!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Barney Frank says he likes it to be fit and tight when the sacs in his mouth! Thats looser for you libs and thats how Tea Party spells it!

  • Anonymous

    Is Barack Obama a loser? Now that I’ve seen what’s happened in the two and a half years after he won, boy I sure hope so!

  • Anonymous

    The sad truth is the vast majority of Americans is losing here. Not Obama. The American government has become untrustworthy with all the lunatics sitting in the House of Representatives. They are sabotaging the political process even to the point they reduced Boehner to a helpless clown who is unable to get anything done. This is serious business and nobody likes to do business with crazy folks. 

  • R.W. Conspiracy

    I haven’t seen so much comedy on morning television since “Captain Kangaroo” went off the air.
    I wonder when Mr. Moose is going to drop the ping-pong balls on Willie Geist’s head. 

  • Anonymous

    YOU STUPID WINGNUT…..WHAT YOU SAID IS DEAD ASS WRONG….whats able to be kept quiet is not the doners name to the obama campaign its the doners name to the FEC…hehehehe…doners dont send 199 one dollar bills in unmarked envelopes dipshit…theres tax inplications involved…these contributions are tax deductable…with that in mind WHO BESIDES YOUR DUMB ASS WOULD SEND THEM IN ANNOMOUSLY???…you hobbits get dumber and dumber by the day…And what Obama chose not to do  in 2008 USE PUBLIC FINANCING FOR HIS CAMPAIGN…republican assholes like you were just pissed off because Obama was able to outraise McCain….and in this cycle OBAMA WILL RAISE A BILLON WITHOUT GOVERNMENT HELP……hes gonna use that money to KICK SOME REPUKE ASS

  • http://www.facebook.com/aio.seven Aio Seven

    …….

  • Anonymous

    dont worry about us black folk ….DO YOU!!!…better worry bout ya double wide getting repocessed and ya meth lab closed down…Blacks would want you sorry ass racist pieces of shit to worry bout us…..just go to ya friday nite crossburning and KKK rally…and we’ll take care of ourselves…if things go really bad for me I wont turn to you….BELIEVE THAT HOBBIT

  • Anonymous

    Whoah, what ad hominem attack did I make on George W. Bush? That was Noonan’s source, not me. As for who loves Obama, that’s not the point. Noonan said nobody loves him, it’s her job to support that. She does it with a half-baked anecdote from an anonymous idiot who’s impressed by genuine misguidedness.

  • Anonymous

    my statement should have said blacks WOULD NOT want your sorry racist ass helping them….we would rather starve first hobbit

  • Anonymous

    Sorry ProIdiotAgenda that crap doesn’t work with me, the race card has been used so many times it’s become overdrawn.  Don’t you have some “Cracker Babies” to kill or some Uncle Toms to intimidate and call race traitors?  You say you’ll take care of yourself, well then stop asking for handouts from the people that actually work for a living.  Get yourself a job and start paying your own bills, shred your EBT card and send your welfare check back to the government if you are so inclined.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry ProIdiotAgenda that crap doesn’t work with me, the race card has been used so many times it’s become overdrawn.  Don’t you have some “Cracker Babies” to kill or some Uncle Toms to intimidate and call race traitors?  You say you’ll take care of yourself, well then stop asking for handouts from the people that actually work for a living.  Get yourself a job and start paying your own bills, shred your EBT card and send your welfare check back to the government if you are so inclined.

  • Anonymous

    Ahhh, another example of an UNBIASED MEDIA! Yes, it’s hard for Conservatives to get their message out, when all but one or two “media” sources are nothing more than propaganda arms of the DNC.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/29/new-york-times-reporter-advises-white-house-media-staff-on-twitter/Minutes after President Obama urged Americans this morning to “tweet” their support for a Democratic debt-ceiling bill, a  New York Times reporter appeared to join the effort by prompting the White House to organize the effort with a special Twitter hashtag.Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/29/new-york-times-reporter-advises-white-house-media-staff-on-twitter/#ixzz1TWAud7xEAt 10:55 a.m. the Times’s Jennifer Preston suggested that administration flacks should create a hashtag for tweeting Democrats to jointly target Republicans who are now trying to pass their own debt ceiling plan.Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/29/new-york-times-reporter-advises-white-house-media-staff-on-twitter/#ixzz1TWB2LqMx

  • Anonymous

    Ahhh, another example of an UNBIASED MEDIA! Yes, it’s hard for Conservatives to get their message out, when all but one or two “media” sources are nothing more than propaganda arms of the DNC.

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/29/new-york-times-reporter-advises-white-house-media-staff-on-twitter/Minutes after President Obama urged Americans this morning to “tweet” their support for a Democratic debt-ceiling bill, a  New York Times reporter appeared to join the effort by prompting the White House to organize the effort with a special Twitter hashtag.Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/29/new-york-times-reporter-advises-white-house-media-staff-on-twitter/#ixzz1TWAud7xEAt 10:55 a.m. the Times’s Jennifer Preston suggested that administration flacks should create a hashtag for tweeting Democrats to jointly target Republicans who are now trying to pass their own debt ceiling plan.Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/07/29/new-york-times-reporter-advises-white-house-media-staff-on-twitter/#ixzz1TWB2LqMx

  • Anonymous

    tell me hobbit……do you REALLY believe that congressional dems talk to joe scarbrough and badmouth Obama????….if they did joey boy would put them on blast and blurt out their names….you gullible assholes believe anything a fellow hobbitt says….his lies are incredible…thats why lawerence Odonnell kicked his ass yesterday….heheheheheheheh

  • Anonymous

    tell me hobbit……do you REALLY believe that congressional dems talk to joe scarbrough and badmouth Obama????….if they did joey boy would put them on blast and blurt out their names….you gullible assholes believe anything a fellow hobbitt says….his lies are incredible…thats why lawerence Odonnell kicked his ass yesterday….heheheheheheheh

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Genius are Tea Party Patriots that think before they act. If demanding my government open up it’s books, balance them, quit giving billions to foreign governments for building their economies, makes me a Hobbit, or crazy then I proudly claim that intended insult! You on the other hand is government spoon feed hack moron child!

  • Anonymous

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1-jasxb7NYOh he took a stand, and sat down every one else in the room.  

  • Anonymous

    I see Peggy is trying to get back into the good graces of the right after her comment that “Sarah Palin couldn’t say what she read because she doesn’t read anything”.

  • Anonymous

    oh and by the way dumbass CRAFTING LEGISLATION IS THE JOB OF THE ELECTED LEGISLATORS,,,,THATS THE CONGRESS….YOU FREAKS NEED CIVICS LESSONS BAD…OBAMA DOESNT HAVE TO DA A DAMN THING BUT STAY IN THE OVAL OFFICE AND SIGN OR VETO LEGISLATION WHEN IT REACHES HIS DESK……ITS BEEN THAT WAY FOR OVER 200 YEARS YOU FREAKING DUMBASS CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR

  • Anonymous

    Fact: If you only applied your spelling skills to economy mathmatics then you would see the car plunging off the cliff with Obama at the wheel and your in the front seat yelling hit the gas!

  • Anonymous

    Keep underestimating the POTUS Noonan, worked great for you all through the primaries and general election in 2008. Peg the biggest loser you have to deal with is that thing you call a face, and what time has done to it, looks like old dried out leather. Seems the biggest winner in you miserable life is the doctor that must keep supplying you with those expensive botox injections every few hours. OOPS you stayed on air to long this morning.. shows on your ah.. hmm.. face?

  • Anonymous

    What is Obama’s stance on abortion?  Gay marriage?  immigration?  Where’s his plan for debt ceiling?  Face it, your messiah has a gelatinous spine.

  • Anonymous

    Peggy supported Obama you idiot.  Of course, like a lot of Americans, she’s regretted it ever since

  • Anonymous

    There was a time, not too long ago, when I would have been offended to hear this sort of thing directed towards ANYONE because it’s juvenile, crass, and lowers the level of discourse in politics, and I despise it, no matter who it’s coming from.

    However at this point, at least today, I just don’t care. They’re ALL losers in DC right now, as far as I’m concerned, and so is about half of the public that just wants benefits, and doesn’t care what it does to our nation (either now or in the future).

    It’s all just a lot of white noise and a distraction…to keep people from looking at the seriousness of the real problem, which is our basic financial insolvency.

  • Anonymous

    Luckily you don’t speak for the majority of blacks, just the racist ones.  I found your theme song numbnuts.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7EZX67mhnw&feature=player_embedded

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    Pee Party Patriots pissing on the American Dream since 2009.

  • Anonymous

    Umm….hate to tell you…..but it is entirely possible to be both of those, there is no dichotomy in what you listed.

  • Anonymous

    Jay Carney to a “ferret with flop sweat.”

    …now that will down in history as one of the best descriptions EVER !!!!

    This entire leftist BS article shows, once again, that the lunatic-left can dish it out, but they are so thin-skinned they can’t take it.

  • Anonymous

    Jay Carney to a “ferret with flop sweat.”

    …now that will down in history as one of the best descriptions EVER !!!!

    This entire leftist BS article shows, once again, that the lunatic-left can dish it out, but they are so thin-skinned they can’t take it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bohratom-Allen/100000077637523 Bohratom Allen

    The Obama Administration should higher you tommy…You would fit right in with their “Hope and Change”..

  • AllAmericanBoy

    Yikes, have we really reached a point where PEGGY NOONAN is opining on who is genuine and who is not?

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, that occurred to me, but “projecting” is such a cliche argument. A valueless one, too, since someone who’s projecting isn’t necessarily wrong (although Noonan is wrong).

    Conservatives lost their shit when she “endorsed” him in 2008 (it was more of a hedge than anything else), and this ain’t gonna get them back for her. 

  • Wake up America

    Right on. He’s screwing them and theyre not smart enough to see it. These are the ” Stupified Americans” that Soros got to believe that he is ” the brilliant one”. Would be laughing however it’s us too that are going down with them!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    Did you like what Peggy said about Sarah Palin too?

    “Conservatives talked a lot about Ronald Reagan this
    year, but they have to take him more to heart, because his example here
    is a guide. All this seemed lost last week on Sarah Palin, who called
    him, on Fox, “an actor.” She was defending her form of political
    celebrity—reality show, “Dancing With the Stars,” etc. This is how she
    did it: “Wasn’t Ronald Reagan an actor? Wasn’t he in ‘Bedtime for
    Bonzo,’ Bozo, something? Ronald Reagan was an actor.”
    Excuse me, but this was ignorant even for Mrs. Palin. Reagan people
    quietly flipped their lids, but I’ll voice their consternation to make a
    larger point. Ronald Reagan was an artist who willed himself into
    leadership as president of a major American labor union (Screen Actors
    Guild, seven terms, 1947-59.) He led that union successfully through
    major upheavals (the Hollywood communist wars, labor-management
    struggles); discovered and honed his ability to speak persuasively by
    talking to workers on the line at General Electric for eight years; was
    elected to and completed two full terms as governor of California;
    challenged and almost unseated an incumbent president of his own party;
    and went on to popularize modern conservative political philosophy
    without the help of a conservative infrastructure. Then he was elected
    president.
    The point is not
    “He was a great man and you are a nincompoop,”
    though that is true. The point is that Reagan’s career is a guide, not
    only for the tea party but for all in politics. He brought his fully
    mature, fully seasoned self into politics with him. He wasn’t in search
    of a life when he ran for office, and he wasn’t in search of fame; he’d
    already lived a life, he was already well known, he’d accomplished
    things in the world.
    Here is an old tradition badly in need of return: You have to earn
    your way into politics.
    You should go have a life, build a string of
    accomplishments, then enter public service. And you need actual talent:
    You have to be able to bring people in and along. You can’t just bully
    them, you can’t just assert and taunt, you have to be able to persuade.
    Americans don’t want, as their representatives, people who seem empty or crazy. They’ll vote no on that.
    It’s not just the message, it’s the messenger.,

  • Anonymous

    since

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V6W3ZY4TWCMCPFTI4TZLQJXX3E kill kristian kannibals

    8/25/11: The Crimes of Christianity

    If Jesus did descend to the earth in the current state his depraved, corpse-eating followers have left him in; partially-eaten and bled-out, that would be one phucked-up, macabre, Stephen King moment. Jesus will soon descend to the earth and NOT so you Muslim-murdering, blood-drinking, corpse-eating, Christian ghouls can KILL him again for the sole purpose of bleeding him out, so you can take your much talked about blood baths to wash your sins away. Jesus will return, but only for the purpose revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (“By Him [Allah] in Whose Hand my soul is, surely, the son of Mary [Isa {Jesus}] will shortly descend amongst you people [Muslims], and will judge mankind justly by the Law of the Qur’an {as a just ruler}, and will break the Cross and kill the pigs and abolish Jizyah [a tax taken from the people of the Scriptures [Jews and Christians], who are under the protection of a Muslim government. This Jizyah tax will not be accepted by Isa [Jesus] and all mankind will be required to embrace Islam with no other alternative.] Then there will be an abundance of money and nobody will accept charitable gifts.)

    Know this! Jesus does NOT live in you stupid Christians because you eat a symbolic piece of “real” bread; your vertical pig masters forgot one critical piece of information when forging your Holy book, everything that is eaten, including the corpse of Jesus and the blood of Jesus, does not linger and live in you, it goes through the digestion process ending in defecation aka $HIT. Eating Jesus’ corpse and drinking Jesus’ blood, only reduces Jesus to a pile of Judeo/Christian swine $HIT. I wonder if Jesus’ flesh is as tender as the song Silent Night indicates; “…Holy infant so tender and mild…”? I also wonder if Christians can worship and pray to the pile of Judeo/Christian swine $HIT that once was Jesus? The belief that Jesus is the savior of mankind, when he couldn’t save his own A$$ from the perpetual mob of murdering Jew’s now occupying Palestine and the U.S. Government, is not faith, it is brutal stupidity. Let it be known! You Christians have NOT been eating Jesus’ flesh under the pretense of “Holy” Communion, as Jesus NEVER died. You infidel dogs have been performing depraved and inhumane acts of cannibalism on a man Allah refers to as “That Man” as revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (And because of their saying (in boast), “We killed the Messiah Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah,” — but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them [the resemblance of Isa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)], and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)].

    Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an what Christian Cannibals are really eating when they symbolically eat the “real” Host of what they believe to be Jesus’ corpse. I have included the definition of host for those Christian’s who are too stupid to comprehend the meaning of their criminal actions. Host-any organism on or in which a parasitic organism lives for nourishment or protection.

    (And the whole hosts of Iblis [Satan] together.)

    Christian’s will be served the same food in the Hell-fire that they ate under the pretense of “Holy” Communion as disclosed in the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    (Verily, the tree of Zaqqum)

    (Will be the food of sinners.)

    (Which will neither nourish nor avail against hunger.)

    (Verily, it is a tree that springs out of the bottom of Hell-fire,)

    (The shoots of its fruit-stalks are like the heads of Shayatin [devils];)

    (An exact recompense [according to their evil crimes].)

    Reality check! Satan aka Israel aka Iblis is NOT a serpent. Satan is a jinn and was created from a smokeless flame of fire as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an. This means that every time you Christian Cannibals light a candle on the Altar, you invoke your god, Israel aka Satan in his original form, a smokeless flame of fire. The rotting corpse of “That Man” thought to be Jesus, hanging off of two phucking sticks is only a carnival distraction, it brings in the crowds, but the corpse is only for eating and desecrating, not worship. The “smokeless flame of fire” coming from the candle on the Altar is the object of Christian devotion.

    (“And [remember] when We said to the angels: “Prostrate yourselves unto Adam.” So they prostrated themselves except Satan. He was one of the jinn; he disobeyed the Command of his Lord. Will you then take him [Iblees] and his offspring as protectors and helpers rather than Me while they are enemies to you? What an evil is the exchange for the Zaalimoon [polytheists, and wrongdoers, etc.].)

    ([Iblis [Satan] said: “See this one whom You have honoured above me, if You give me respite [keep me alive] to the Day of Resurrection, I will surely seize and mislead his offspring [by sending them astray] all but a few!)

    (And the jinn: He created from a smokeless flame of fire.)

    On the Day of Resurrection, you demon-possessed, Christian ghouls will be reminded of your invoking your god, Satan in his original form as revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (On the Day when the torment [Hell-fire] shall cover them from above them and from underneath their feet, and it will be said: “Taste what you used to do.”)

    Disbelievers in the Oneness of Islamic Monotheism will spend eternity in prison, because Allah has made Hell a prison, but it won’t be all bad because Allah will provide entertainment as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an:

    ([And We said in the Taurat (Torah)]: “It may be that your Lord may show mercy to you, but if you return (to sins), We shall return (to Our Punishment). And We have made Hell a prison for the disbelievers.)

    (Then for him is an entertainment with boiling water.)

    You dream chasing, America cannibals should stop the bragging about your super power status, because Allah reveals in the following Verses of the Qur’an that you are only being tried and tested with power, and clearly you have failed the test. Instead of bragging about how you have decimated the world’s population and resources, you should ask yourselves, “Why did Allah, my Lord and Creator, write me in the script of life as the bad guys, destined for the Hell-fire?” You are ONLY acting out a script and Allah Alone knows the outcome of His Script aka the Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz. You dream chasing, American cannibals have NO power and only enough weapons to play out your own destruction and you will come to know that ALL power belongs to Allah Alone.

    (Everyone is going to taste death, and We shall make a trial of you with evil and with good. And to Us you will be returned.)

    (We created them not except with truth [i.e. to examine and test those who are obedient and those who are disobedient and then reward the obedient ones and punish the disobedient ones], but most of them know not.)

    (And everything, small and big, is written down (in Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz already beforehand i.e. before it befalls, or is done by its doer.)

    (No calamity befalls on the earth or in yourselves but it is inscribed in the Book of Decrees (Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz) before we bring it into existence. Verily, that is easy for Allah.)

    The end result of the Pig Poachers of Palestine and their American slave’s evil efforts to contain aka subjugate the only free nation in the world, the unstoppable, nuclear capable and Islamic super power that is Iran, is revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an.

    (Say (O Muhammad to those who disbelieve: “You will be defeated and gathered together to Hell, and worst indeed is that place of rest.)

    Reality check! Satan aka Israel aka Iblis is NOT a serpent. Satan is a jinn and was created from a smokeless flame of fire as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an. This means that every time you Christian Cannibals light a candle on the Altar, you invoke your god, Israel in his original form, a smokeless flame of fire. The rotting corpse of “That Man” thought to be Jesus hanging off of two phucking sticks is only a sideshow distraction, “That Man’s” corpse is only for eating and desecrating, not worshipping. Eating the rotting corpse of “That Man” is not the worst crime Christian Cannibals commit in the name of their god, Satan. Evangelical’s transgress all bounds by inviting demons to possess their bodies so they can communicate with their god Satan by speaking in tongues. The fools believe demon possession is acceptable because the demons are “Holy” Ghosts and “Holy” Spirits. It appears that all it takes for a Christian to perform blasphemous acts of rebellion against his Lord and Creator, Allah, is to preface all of their evil with the word “Holy”. Also, Santa is an anagram of Satan.

    (“And [remember] when We said to the angels: “Prostrate yourselves unto Adam.” So they prostrated themselves except Satan. He was one of the jinn; he disobeyed the Command of his Lord. Will you then take him [Iblees] and his offspring as protectors and helpers rather than Me while they are enemies to you? What an evil is the exchange for the Zaalimoon [polytheists, and wrongdoers, etc.].)

    ([Iblis [Satan] said: “See this one whom You have honoured above me, if You give me respite [keep me alive] to the Day of Resurrection, I will surely seize and mislead his offspring [by sending them astray] all but a few!)

    (And the jinn: He created from a smokeless flame of fire.)

    On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will remind you Christian Cannibals of your diabolical act of invoking Satan in his original form as revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an.

    (On the Day when the torment [Hell-fire] shall cover them from above them and from underneath their feet, and it will be said: “Taste what you used to do.”)

    Allah reveals Israel to be the Jew’s father and NOT a country. The following Verses of the Qur’an also reveal the Jew’s to be lying about dietary/food restrictions they claim to justify their eating “Kosher” food. The Kosher label is quite evil, as it alerts Jew’s to the foods they have not POISONED. Kosher food labeling ONLY ensures the Jew’s a continuous and untainted food supply anywhere in the world, as the Jew’s have been poisoning the Arabs aka Children of Adam’s food since the beginning of time. Kosher is the equivalent of NOT POISONED, just as Zion is the equivalent of Hell and Goyim is the equivalent of slave. It was the Pig Poachers of Palestine who produced the E. Coli laden tomato seeds, which produced poisonous tomatoes, which ultimately killed 15 German citizens and sickened 365 and this is par for the course for the murdering devils.

    (All food was lawful to the Children of Israel, except what Israel made unlawful to himself before the Taurat (Torah) was revealed. Say (O Muhammad) “Bring here the Tauratt (Torah) and recite it, if you are truthful.)

    (And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely, “This is lawful and this is forbidden,” so as to invent lies against Allah. Verily, those who invent lies against Allah will never prosper.)

    Christians might want to reconsider their unconditional support for their pig poaching, organ-thieving masters. The vertical pigs aren’t harvesting organs for the mere purpose of extending their evil lives for say 10 years, nor for 50 years, not even for 500 years. Our Lord and Creator, Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an, the Pig Poachers of Palestine want to live to be 1,000 years old and stealing organs won’t accomplish this goal. Organ theft is only a facade for something far more sinister. The Pig Poachers of Palestine know they cannot extend their lives to 1,000 years from stolen organs, as such, the vertical pigs are working on a Fountain of Youth type serum that would enable them to live for 1,000 years and they are using the pituitary glands of their victims to develop this serum. The obvious theft of organs is only a cover for the theft of the pituitary gland and if the victims were to be exhumed, it would be discovered that ALL of the victims had their pituitary glands removed, the vertical pigs use the opening in the chest cavity to remove the pituitary gland.

    (And verily, you will find them [the Jews] the greediest of mankind for life and [even greedier] than those who ascribe partners to Allah [and do not believe in Resurrection-Majus {Magians}, pagans and idolators]. Everyone of them wishes that he could be given a life of a thousand years. But the grant of such a life will not save him even a little from due punishment. And Allah is All-Seer of what they do.)

    The Pig Poachers of Palestine were NEVER meant to have their own country because of the chaos they would cause, and the current state of world affairs does attest to the world chaos caused by them vertical pigs. Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an that He never gave the Jew’s any parcel of land to call a country by any name, including the name of their father Israel aka Satan. By virtue of the following Decrees, Israel will cease to exist before the Day of Resurrection and so will the Christian slave nations who are betraying their Muslim brothers and sisters to protect the hostile, perfidious pigs and their well-calculated crimes against human beings, which the Jew’s are NOT.

    (And We said to the Children of Israel after him: “Dwell in the land, then, when the final and the last promise comes near [i.e. the Day of Resurrection or the descent of Christ, Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) on the earth, We shall bring you altogether as a mixed crowd (gathered out of various nations).

    (And We have broken them [i.e. the Jews] up into various groups on the earth; some of them are righteous and some are away from that. And We tried them good [blessings] and evil calamities in order that they might turn to Allah’s Obedience.)

    The Jews are NOT Allah’s “Chosen People” nor are they Allah’s “Chosen Animals”, as it is revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an that Allah Cursed the Jews several times, as a result, the Jews aka jinn, monkeys, and swine are all related and from this monkey mix the Christians have taken for themselves a god, albeit a dead god, but he makes for good snacking.

    (And when there came to them (the Jews) a Book (this Qur’an) from Allah confirming what is with them [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)], although aforetime they had invoked Allah (for coming of Muhammad {pbuh}) in order to gain victory over those who disbelieved, then when there came to them that which they had recognized, they disbelieved in it. So let the Curse of Allah be on the disbelievers.)

    (Say [O Muhammad to the people of the Scripture): “Shall I inform you of something worse than that, regarding the recompense from Allah? Those [Jews] who incurred the Curse of Allah and His Wrath, and those of whom [some] He transformed into monkeys and swines, and those who worshipped Taghut [false deities]; such are worse in rank [on the Day of Resurrection in the Hell-fire], and far more astray from the Right Path [in the life of this world]”.)

    Allah reveals that Christian’s are worshippers of the jinn in the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    (And [remember] the Day when He will gather them all together, then He will say to the angels: “Was it you that these people used to worship?”)

    (They [the angels] will say: “Glorified are You! You are our Wali [Lord] instead of them. Nay, but they used to worship the jinn; most of them were believers in them.”)

    Allah will reward Christian’s with a new body for their lifelong devotion to the jinn aka Pig Poachers of Palestine. On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will transfigure ALL disbelievers in the Oneness of Islamic Monotheism into “…the lowest of the low…” as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    (We have decreed death to you all, and We are not outstripped,)

    (To transfigure you and create you in (forms) you know not.)

    (Verily, We created man in the best stature (mould).

    (Then We reduced him to the lowest of the low.)

    The following Ahadith describes the huge torso of the resurrected disbeliever:

    Narrated by Abu Hurairah: The Prophet said: “The width between the two shoulders of a kafir (disbeliever) will be equal to the distance covered by a fast rider in three days.”

    It is revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an and the following Ahadith, the resurrected disbeliever will NOT walk upright.

    (Is he who walks prone (without seeing) on his face, more right guided, or he who (sees and) walks upright on a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)?)

    (Narrated Anas bin Malik: A man said, “O Allah’s Prophet! Will Allah gather a disbeliever (prone) on his face on the Day of Resurrection?” He said, “Will not the One Who made him walk on his feet in this world, be able to make him walk on his face on the Day of Resurrection? (Qatadah, a subnarrator, said: “Yes, By the Power of Our Lord!”)

    The following Verse of the Qur’an describes the leg (s)? of the resurrected disbeliever.

    (And one leg will be joined with another leg (shrouded).)

    The hairless head of the resurrected disbeliever is described in the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    (Taking away [burning completely] the head skin!)

    It is revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an that many resurrected disbelievers will be blind.

    (“But whosoever turns away from My Reminder (i.e. neither believes in this Qur’an nor acts on its teachings.) verily, for him is a life of hardship, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Resurrection.”)

    The color of the resurrected disbelievers is disclosed in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (And on the Day of Resurrection you will see those who lied against Allah (i.e. attributed to Him sons, partners)—their faces will be black. Is there not in Hell an abode for the arrogant?)

    The skins of the resurrected disbelievers are described in detail in the following Verse of the Qur’an.

    (Surely! Those who disbelieved in Our Ayat [proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc], We shall burn them in Fire. As often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for other skins that they may taste the punishment. Truly, Allah is Ever Most Powerful, All-Wise.)

    It is revealed the heart will not be in the chest cavity of the resurrected disbelievers and the following Verse of the Qur’an reveals the heart’s location will not alter.

    (And warn them (O Muhammad {pbuh} of the Day that is drawing near (i.e. the Day of Resurrection), when the hearts will be choking the throats, and they can neither return them (hearts) to their chests nor can they throw them out. There will be no friend, nor an intercessor for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers), who could be given heed to.)

    Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an that He will change the nature of the resurrected disbelievers, rendering them unable to cry, scream or hear.

    (Therein they will be breathing out with deep sighs and roaring will be their portion and therein they will hear not.)

    It is revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an that resurrected disbelievers will be branded like cattle:

    (We shall brand him on the snout (nose)!

    Living in the Hell-fire won’t be all bad, as our Lord, Allah will provide entertainment for the dwellers of the Hell-fire, which has been made into a prison for disbelievers according to the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    ([And We said in the Taurat (Torah)]: “It may be that your Lord may show mercy to you, but if you return (to sins), We shall return (to Our Punishment). And We have made Hell a prison for the disbelievers.)

    (Then for him is an entertainment with boiling water.)

    Let it be known! Christians, pagans and vertical pigs, are ALL disbelievers through no fault of their own, but by the Decree of Allah. If Allah found any good in any of you, you would be one of the Chosen People aka Muslims destined for Paradise, as opposed to the Hell-fire; the final destination of Christians, vertical pigs, pagans, etc. as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an

    (Turned aside therefrom (i.e. from Muhammad {pbuh} and the Qur’an) is he who is turned aside (by the Decree and Preordainment of Allah).

    (It is not for any person to believe, except by the Leave of Allah, and He will put the wrath on those who are heedless.)

    (“And my advice will not profit you, even if I wish to give you good counsel, if Allah’s Will is to keep you astray. He is your Lord! And to Him you shall return.”)

    (Had Allah known of any good in them, He would indeed have made them listen, and even if He had made them listen, they would but have turned away with; (A brief enjoyment in this world! And then to Us will be their return, then We shall make them taste the severest torment because they used to disbelieve [In Allah, deny his Messengers, deny and challenge His Ayat-proofs, signs, verses, etc.)

    Regarding “God Bless America”, Allah reveals the blessing He has bestowed upon the American dream chasers in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (They were pursued by a curse in this (deceiving life of this world) and (so they will be pursued by a curse) on the Day of Resurrection. Evil indeed is the gift given [i.e. the curse (in this world) pursued by another curse (in the Hereafter)].)

    ([This is the] Revelation sent down from the Lord of the Alamin [mankind, jinn and all that exists].)

    ([He is Allah] Owner of High Ranks and Degrees, the Owner of the Throne. He sends the revelation by His Command to any of His slaves He wills, that he (the person who receives revelation) may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting [i.e. the Day of Resurrection].

    (And We sent not a Messenger except with the language of his people, in order that he might make [the Message] clear for them. Then Allah misleads whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.)

    (“And if you deny, then nations before you have denied [their Messengers]. And the duty of the Messenger is only to convey [the Message] plainly.”)

    (And never will your Lord destroy the towns [populations] until He sends to their mother town a Messenger reciting to them Our Verses. And never would We destroy the towns unless the people thereof are Zalimun [polytheists, wrong-doers, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah, oppressors and tyrants.)

    (And We sent to the them a Messenger from among themselves [saying]: “Worship Allah! You have no other Ilah [God] but Him. Will you not then be afraid [of Him i.e. of His punishment because of worshipping others besides Him]?”)

    (Then We sent Our Messengers in succession. Every time there came to a nation their Messenger, they denied him; so We made them follow one another [to destruction], and We made them as Ahadith [the true stories for mankind to learn a lesson from them]. So away with a people who believe not!)

    (Say to them (O Muhammad {pbuh}) “Travel in the land and see how has been the end of the Mujrimun (criminals, those who denied Allah’s Messengers and disobeyed Allah.)

    (Then [in the end] We save Our Messengers and those who believe! Thus it is incumbent upon Us to save the believers.)

    (Your Ilah [God] is One Ilah [God-Allah, none has the right to be worshipped but He])

    (“And indeed, We created man from dried [sounding] clay of altered mud. And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire.”).

    (And I have created the jinn and men only to worship Me).

    (And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.”)

    (So leave them [alone] to speak nonsense and play until they meet the Day of theirs which they have been promised.)

    (So leave them alone till they meet their Day, in which they will sink into a fainting [with horror].)

    (Surely, what you are promised must come to past.)

    Jameela
    Messenger of Allah
    & Defender of Islam
    19 July 2011

  • Anonymous

    More than 420 companies including Boston Scientific, St. Jude Medical
    and Stryker signed on to a letter asking the U.S. Congress to repeal a planned
    2.3 percent excise tax on medical devices. The tax could cost $20 billion a
    year and is set to take effect in 2013 as part of broad health care reform
    package passed
    last year.

     —

    Yesterday’s move, a day after Boston Scientific disclosed it was
    investing $150 million and hiring 1,000 people in China, raised fears that the
    company will gradually shift more work to foreign sites with less government
    oversight and lower costs than the United States.

    http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2011/07/29/boston_scientific_to_lay_off_1200_plus/

    Another “benefit’ of Obamacare.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V6W3ZY4TWCMCPFTI4TZLQJXX3E kill kristian kannibals

    8/25/11: The Crimes of Christianity

    If Jesus did descend to the earth in the current state his depraved, corpse-eating followers have left him in; partially-eaten and bled-out, that would be one phucked-up, macabre, Stephen King moment. Jesus will soon descend to the earth and NOT so you Muslim-murdering, blood-drinking, corpse-eating, Christian ghouls can KILL him again for the sole purpose of bleeding him out, so you can take your much talked about blood baths to wash your sins away. Jesus will return, but only for the purpose revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (“By Him [Allah] in Whose Hand my soul is, surely, the son of Mary [Isa {Jesus}] will shortly descend amongst you people [Muslims], and will judge mankind justly by the Law of the Qur’an {as a just ruler}, and will break the Cross and kill the pigs and abolish Jizyah [a tax taken from the people of the Scriptures [Jews and Christians], who are under the protection of a Muslim government. This Jizyah tax will not be accepted by Isa [Jesus] and all mankind will be required to embrace Islam with no other alternative.] Then there will be an abundance of money and nobody will accept charitable gifts.)

    Know this! Jesus does NOT live in you stupid Christians because you eat a symbolic piece of “real” bread; your vertical pig masters forgot one critical piece of information when forging your Holy book, everything that is eaten, including the corpse of Jesus and the blood of Jesus, does not linger and live in you, it goes through the digestion process ending in defecation aka $HIT. Eating Jesus’ corpse and drinking Jesus’ blood, only reduces Jesus to a pile of Judeo/Christian swine $HIT. I wonder if Jesus’ flesh is as tender as the song Silent Night indicates; “…Holy infant so tender and mild…”? I also wonder if Christians can worship and pray to the pile of Judeo/Christian swine $HIT that once was Jesus? The belief that Jesus is the savior of mankind, when he couldn’t save his own A$$ from the perpetual mob of murdering Jew’s now occupying Palestine and the U.S. Government, is not faith, it is brutal stupidity. Let it be known! You Christians have NOT been eating Jesus’ flesh under the pretense of “Holy” Communion, as Jesus NEVER died. You infidel dogs have been performing depraved and inhumane acts of cannibalism on a man Allah refers to as “That Man” as revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (And because of their saying (in boast), “We killed the Messiah Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah,” — but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them [the resemblance of Isa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)], and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)].

    Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an what Christian Cannibals are really eating when they symbolically eat the “real” Host of what they believe to be Jesus’ corpse. I have included the definition of host for those Christian’s who are too stupid to comprehend the meaning of their criminal actions. Host-any organism on or in which a parasitic organism lives for nourishment or protection.

    (And the whole hosts of Iblis [Satan] together.)

    Christian’s will be served the same food in the Hell-fire that they ate under the pretense of “Holy” Communion as disclosed in the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    (Verily, the tree of Zaqqum)

    (Will be the food of sinners.)

    (Which will neither nourish nor avail against hunger.)

    (Verily, it is a tree that springs out of the bottom of Hell-fire,)

    (The shoots of its fruit-stalks are like the heads of Shayatin [devils];)

    (An exact recompense [according to their evil crimes].)

    Reality check! Satan aka Israel aka Iblis is NOT a serpent. Satan is a jinn and was created from a smokeless flame of fire as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an. This means that every time you Christian Cannibals light a candle on the Altar, you invoke your god, Israel aka Satan in his original form, a smokeless flame of fire. The rotting corpse of “That Man” thought to be Jesus, hanging off of two phucking sticks is only a carnival distraction, it brings in the crowds, but the corpse is only for eating and desecrating, not worship. The “smokeless flame of fire” coming from the candle on the Altar is the object of Christian devotion.

    (“And [remember] when We said to the angels: “Prostrate yourselves unto Adam.” So they prostrated themselves except Satan. He was one of the jinn; he disobeyed the Command of his Lord. Will you then take him [Iblees] and his offspring as protectors and helpers rather than Me while they are enemies to you? What an evil is the exchange for the Zaalimoon [polytheists, and wrongdoers, etc.].)

    ([Iblis [Satan] said: “See this one whom You have honoured above me, if You give me respite [keep me alive] to the Day of Resurrection, I will surely seize and mislead his offspring [by sending them astray] all but a few!)

    (And the jinn: He created from a smokeless flame of fire.)

    On the Day of Resurrection, you demon-possessed, Christian ghouls will be reminded of your invoking your god, Satan in his original form as revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (On the Day when the torment [Hell-fire] shall cover them from above them and from underneath their feet, and it will be said: “Taste what you used to do.”)

    Disbelievers in the Oneness of Islamic Monotheism will spend eternity in prison, because Allah has made Hell a prison, but it won’t be all bad because Allah will provide entertainment as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an:

    ([And We said in the Taurat (Torah)]: “It may be that your Lord may show mercy to you, but if you return (to sins), We shall return (to Our Punishment). And We have made Hell a prison for the disbelievers.)

    (Then for him is an entertainment with boiling water.)

    You dream chasing, America cannibals should stop the bragging about your super power status, because Allah reveals in the following Verses of the Qur’an that you are only being tried and tested with power, and clearly you have failed the test. Instead of bragging about how you have decimated the world’s population and resources, you should ask yourselves, “Why did Allah, my Lord and Creator, write me in the script of life as the bad guys, destined for the Hell-fire?” You are ONLY acting out a script and Allah Alone knows the outcome of His Script aka the Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz. You dream chasing, American cannibals have NO power and only enough weapons to play out your own destruction and you will come to know that ALL power belongs to Allah Alone.

    (Everyone is going to taste death, and We shall make a trial of you with evil and with good. And to Us you will be returned.)

    (We created them not except with truth [i.e. to examine and test those who are obedient and those who are disobedient and then reward the obedient ones and punish the disobedient ones], but most of them know not.)

    (And everything, small and big, is written down (in Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz already beforehand i.e. before it befalls, or is done by its doer.)

    (No calamity befalls on the earth or in yourselves but it is inscribed in the Book of Decrees (Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz) before we bring it into existence. Verily, that is easy for Allah.)

    The end result of the Pig Poachers of Palestine and their American slave’s evil efforts to contain aka subjugate the only free nation in the world, the unstoppable, nuclear capable and Islamic super power that is Iran, is revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an.

    (Say (O Muhammad to those who disbelieve: “You will be defeated and gathered together to Hell, and worst indeed is that place of rest.)

    Reality check! Satan aka Israel aka Iblis is NOT a serpent. Satan is a jinn and was created from a smokeless flame of fire as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an. This means that every time you Christian Cannibals light a candle on the Altar, you invoke your god, Israel in his original form, a smokeless flame of fire. The rotting corpse of “That Man” thought to be Jesus hanging off of two phucking sticks is only a sideshow distraction, “That Man’s” corpse is only for eating and desecrating, not worshipping. Eating the rotting corpse of “That Man” is not the worst crime Christian Cannibals commit in the name of their god, Satan. Evangelical’s transgress all bounds by inviting demons to possess their bodies so they can communicate with their god Satan by speaking in tongues. The fools believe demon possession is acceptable because the demons are “Holy” Ghosts and “Holy” Spirits. It appears that all it takes for a Christian to perform blasphemous acts of rebellion against his Lord and Creator, Allah, is to preface all of their evil with the word “Holy”. Also, Santa is an anagram of Satan.

    (“And [remember] when We said to the angels: “Prostrate yourselves unto Adam.” So they prostrated themselves except Satan. He was one of the jinn; he disobeyed the Command of his Lord. Will you then take him [Iblees] and his offspring as protectors and helpers rather than Me while they are enemies to you? What an evil is the exchange for the Zaalimoon [polytheists, and wrongdoers, etc.].)

    ([Iblis [Satan] said: “See this one whom You have honoured above me, if You give me respite [keep me alive] to the Day of Resurrection, I will surely seize and mislead his offspring [by sending them astray] all but a few!)

    (And the jinn: He created from a smokeless flame of fire.)

    On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will remind you Christian Cannibals of your diabolical act of invoking Satan in his original form as revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an.

    (On the Day when the torment [Hell-fire] shall cover them from above them and from underneath their feet, and it will be said: “Taste what you used to do.”)

    Allah reveals Israel to be the Jew’s father and NOT a country. The following Verses of the Qur’an also reveal the Jew’s to be lying about dietary/food restrictions they claim to justify their eating “Kosher” food. The Kosher label is quite evil, as it alerts Jew’s to the foods they have not POISONED. Kosher food labeling ONLY ensures the Jew’s a continuous and untainted food supply anywhere in the world, as the Jew’s have been poisoning the Arabs aka Children of Adam’s food since the beginning of time. Kosher is the equivalent of NOT POISONED, just as Zion is the equivalent of Hell and Goyim is the equivalent of slave. It was the Pig Poachers of Palestine who produced the E. Coli laden tomato seeds, which produced poisonous tomatoes, which ultimately killed 15 German citizens and sickened 365 and this is par for the course for the murdering devils.

    (All food was lawful to the Children of Israel, except what Israel made unlawful to himself before the Taurat (Torah) was revealed. Say (O Muhammad) “Bring here the Tauratt (Torah) and recite it, if you are truthful.)

    (And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely, “This is lawful and this is forbidden,” so as to invent lies against Allah. Verily, those who invent lies against Allah will never prosper.)

    Christians might want to reconsider their unconditional support for their pig poaching, organ-thieving masters. The vertical pigs aren’t harvesting organs for the mere purpose of extending their evil lives for say 10 years, nor for 50 years, not even for 500 years. Our Lord and Creator, Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an, the Pig Poachers of Palestine want to live to be 1,000 years old and stealing organs won’t accomplish this goal. Organ theft is only a facade for something far more sinister. The Pig Poachers of Palestine know they cannot extend their lives to 1,000 years from stolen organs, as such, the vertical pigs are working on a Fountain of Youth type serum that would enable them to live for 1,000 years and they are using the pituitary glands of their victims to develop this serum. The obvious theft of organs is only a cover for the theft of the pituitary gland and if the victims were to be exhumed, it would be discovered that ALL of the victims had their pituitary glands removed, the vertical pigs use the opening in the chest cavity to remove the pituitary gland.

    (And verily, you will find them [the Jews] the greediest of mankind for life and [even greedier] than those who ascribe partners to Allah [and do not believe in Resurrection-Majus {Magians}, pagans and idolators]. Everyone of them wishes that he could be given a life of a thousand years. But the grant of such a life will not save him even a little from due punishment. And Allah is All-Seer of what they do.)

    The Pig Poachers of Palestine were NEVER meant to have their own country because of the chaos they would cause, and the current state of world affairs does attest to the world chaos caused by them vertical pigs. Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an that He never gave the Jew’s any parcel of land to call a country by any name, including the name of their father Israel aka Satan. By virtue of the following Decrees, Israel will cease to exist before the Day of Resurrection and so will the Christian slave nations who are betraying their Muslim brothers and sisters to protect the hostile, perfidious pigs and their well-calculated crimes against human beings, which the Jew’s are NOT.

    (And We said to the Children of Israel after him: “Dwell in the land, then, when the final and the last promise comes near [i.e. the Day of Resurrection or the descent of Christ, Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) on the earth, We shall bring you altogether as a mixed crowd (gathered out of various nations).

    (And We have broken them [i.e. the Jews] up into various groups on the earth; some of them are righteous and some are away from that. And We tried them good [blessings] and evil calamities in order that they might turn to Allah’s Obedience.)

    The Jews are NOT Allah’s “Chosen People” nor are they Allah’s “Chosen Animals”, as it is revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an that Allah Cursed the Jews several times, as a result, the Jews aka jinn, monkeys, and swine are all related and from this monkey mix the Christians have taken for themselves a god, albeit a dead god, but he makes for good snacking.

    (And when there came to them (the Jews) a Book (this Qur’an) from Allah confirming what is with them [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)], although aforetime they had invoked Allah (for coming of Muhammad {pbuh}) in order to gain victory over those who disbelieved, then when there came to them that which they had recognized, they disbelieved in it. So let the Curse of Allah be on the disbelievers.)

    (Say [O Muhammad to the people of the Scripture): “Shall I inform you of something worse than that, regarding the recompense from Allah? Those [Jews] who incurred the Curse of Allah and His Wrath, and those of whom [some] He transformed into monkeys and swines, and those who worshipped Taghut [false deities]; such are worse in rank [on the Day of Resurrection in the Hell-fire], and far more astray from the Right Path [in the life of this world]”.)

    Allah reveals that Christian’s are worshippers of the jinn in the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    (And [remember] the Day when He will gather them all together, then He will say to the angels: “Was it you that these people used to worship?”)

    (They [the angels] will say: “Glorified are You! You are our Wali [Lord] instead of them. Nay, but they used to worship the jinn; most of them were believers in them.”)

    Allah will reward Christian’s with a new body for their lifelong devotion to the jinn aka Pig Poachers of Palestine. On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will transfigure ALL disbelievers in the Oneness of Islamic Monotheism into “…the lowest of the low…” as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    (We have decreed death to you all, and We are not outstripped,)

    (To transfigure you and create you in (forms) you know not.)

    (Verily, We created man in the best stature (mould).

    (Then We reduced him to the lowest of the low.)

    The following Ahadith describes the huge torso of the resurrected disbeliever:

    Narrated by Abu Hurairah: The Prophet said: “The width between the two shoulders of a kafir (disbeliever) will be equal to the distance covered by a fast rider in three days.”

    It is revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an and the following Ahadith, the resurrected disbeliever will NOT walk upright.

    (Is he who walks prone (without seeing) on his face, more right guided, or he who (sees and) walks upright on a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)?)

    (Narrated Anas bin Malik: A man said, “O Allah’s Prophet! Will Allah gather a disbeliever (prone) on his face on the Day of Resurrection?” He said, “Will not the One Who made him walk on his feet in this world, be able to make him walk on his face on the Day of Resurrection? (Qatadah, a subnarrator, said: “Yes, By the Power of Our Lord!”)

    The following Verse of the Qur’an describes the leg (s)? of the resurrected disbeliever.

    (And one leg will be joined with another leg (shrouded).)

    The hairless head of the resurrected disbeliever is described in the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    (Taking away [burning completely] the head skin!)

    It is revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an that many resurrected disbelievers will be blind.

    (“But whosoever turns away from My Reminder (i.e. neither believes in this Qur’an nor acts on its teachings.) verily, for him is a life of hardship, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Resurrection.”)

    The color of the resurrected disbelievers is disclosed in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (And on the Day of Resurrection you will see those who lied against Allah (i.e. attributed to Him sons, partners)—their faces will be black. Is there not in Hell an abode for the arrogant?)

    The skins of the resurrected disbelievers are described in detail in the following Verse of the Qur’an.

    (Surely! Those who disbelieved in Our Ayat [proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc], We shall burn them in Fire. As often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for other skins that they may taste the punishment. Truly, Allah is Ever Most Powerful, All-Wise.)

    It is revealed the heart will not be in the chest cavity of the resurrected disbelievers and the following Verse of the Qur’an reveals the heart’s location will not alter.

    (And warn them (O Muhammad {pbuh} of the Day that is drawing near (i.e. the Day of Resurrection), when the hearts will be choking the throats, and they can neither return them (hearts) to their chests nor can they throw them out. There will be no friend, nor an intercessor for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers), who could be given heed to.)

    Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an that He will change the nature of the resurrected disbelievers, rendering them unable to cry, scream or hear.

    (Therein they will be breathing out with deep sighs and roaring will be their portion and therein they will hear not.)

    It is revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an that resurrected disbelievers will be branded like cattle:

    (We shall brand him on the snout (nose)!

    Living in the Hell-fire won’t be all bad, as our Lord, Allah will provide entertainment for the dwellers of the Hell-fire, which has been made into a prison for disbelievers according to the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    ([And We said in the Taurat (Torah)]: “It may be that your Lord may show mercy to you, but if you return (to sins), We shall return (to Our Punishment). And We have made Hell a prison for the disbelievers.)

    (Then for him is an entertainment with boiling water.)

    Let it be known! Christians, pagans and vertical pigs, are ALL disbelievers through no fault of their own, but by the Decree of Allah. If Allah found any good in any of you, you would be one of the Chosen People aka Muslims destined for Paradise, as opposed to the Hell-fire; the final destination of Christians, vertical pigs, pagans, etc. as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an

    (Turned aside therefrom (i.e. from Muhammad {pbuh} and the Qur’an) is he who is turned aside (by the Decree and Preordainment of Allah).

    (It is not for any person to believe, except by the Leave of Allah, and He will put the wrath on those who are heedless.)

    (“And my advice will not profit you, even if I wish to give you good counsel, if Allah’s Will is to keep you astray. He is your Lord! And to Him you shall return.”)

    (Had Allah known of any good in them, He would indeed have made them listen, and even if He had made them listen, they would but have turned away with; (A brief enjoyment in this world! And then to Us will be their return, then We shall make them taste the severest torment because they used to disbelieve [In Allah, deny his Messengers, deny and challenge His Ayat-proofs, signs, verses, etc.)

    Regarding “God Bless America”, Allah reveals the blessing He has bestowed upon the American dream chasers in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (They were pursued by a curse in this (deceiving life of this world) and (so they will be pursued by a curse) on the Day of Resurrection. Evil indeed is the gift given [i.e. the curse (in this world) pursued by another curse (in the Hereafter)].)

    ([This is the] Revelation sent down from the Lord of the Alamin [mankind, jinn and all that exists].)

    ([He is Allah] Owner of High Ranks and Degrees, the Owner of the Throne. He sends the revelation by His Command to any of His slaves He wills, that he (the person who receives revelation) may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting [i.e. the Day of Resurrection].

    (And We sent not a Messenger except with the language of his people, in order that he might make [the Message] clear for them. Then Allah misleads whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.)

    (“And if you deny, then nations before you have denied [their Messengers]. And the duty of the Messenger is only to convey [the Message] plainly.”)

    (And never will your Lord destroy the towns [populations] until He sends to their mother town a Messenger reciting to them Our Verses. And never would We destroy the towns unless the people thereof are Zalimun [polytheists, wrong-doers, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah, oppressors and tyrants.)

    (And We sent to the them a Messenger from among themselves [saying]: “Worship Allah! You have no other Ilah [God] but Him. Will you not then be afraid [of Him i.e. of His punishment because of worshipping others besides Him]?”)

    (Then We sent Our Messengers in succession. Every time there came to a nation their Messenger, they denied him; so We made them follow one another [to destruction], and We made them as Ahadith [the true stories for mankind to learn a lesson from them]. So away with a people who believe not!)

    (Say to them (O Muhammad {pbuh}) “Travel in the land and see how has been the end of the Mujrimun (criminals, those who denied Allah’s Messengers and disobeyed Allah.)

    (Then [in the end] We save Our Messengers and those who believe! Thus it is incumbent upon Us to save the believers.)

    (Your Ilah [God] is One Ilah [God-Allah, none has the right to be worshipped but He])

    (“And indeed, We created man from dried [sounding] clay of altered mud. And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire.”).

    (And I have created the jinn and men only to worship Me).

    (And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.”)

    (So leave them [alone] to speak nonsense and play until they meet the Day of theirs which they have been promised.)

    (So leave them alone till they meet their Day, in which they will sink into a fainting [with horror].)

    (Surely, what you are promised must come to past.)

    Jameela
    Messenger of Allah
    & Defender of Islam
    19 July 2011

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    8/25/11: The Crimes of Christianity

    If Jesus did descend to the earth in the current state his depraved, corpse-eating followers have left him in; partially-eaten and bled-out, that would be one phucked-up, macabre, Stephen King moment. Jesus will soon descend to the earth and NOT so you Muslim-murdering, blood-drinking, corpse-eating, Christian ghouls can KILL him again for the sole purpose of bleeding him out, so you can take your much talked about blood baths to wash your sins away. Jesus will return, but only for the purpose revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (“By Him [Allah] in Whose Hand my soul is, surely, the son of Mary [Isa {Jesus}] will shortly descend amongst you people [Muslims], and will judge mankind justly by the Law of the Qur’an {as a just ruler}, and will break the Cross and kill the pigs and abolish Jizyah [a tax taken from the people of the Scriptures [Jews and Christians], who are under the protection of a Muslim government. This Jizyah tax will not be accepted by Isa [Jesus] and all mankind will be required to embrace Islam with no other alternative.] Then there will be an abundance of money and nobody will accept charitable gifts.)

    Know this! Jesus does NOT live in you stupid Christians because you eat a symbolic piece of “real” bread; your vertical pig masters forgot one critical piece of information when forging your Holy book, everything that is eaten, including the corpse of Jesus and the blood of Jesus, does not linger and live in you, it goes through the digestion process ending in defecation aka $HIT. Eating Jesus’ corpse and drinking Jesus’ blood, only reduces Jesus to a pile of Judeo/Christian swine $HIT. I wonder if Jesus’ flesh is as tender as the song Silent Night indicates; “…Holy infant so tender and mild…”? I also wonder if Christians can worship and pray to the pile of Judeo/Christian swine $HIT that once was Jesus? The belief that Jesus is the savior of mankind, when he couldn’t save his own A$$ from the perpetual mob of murdering Jew’s now occupying Palestine and the U.S. Government, is not faith, it is brutal stupidity. Let it be known! You Christians have NOT been eating Jesus’ flesh under the pretense of “Holy” Communion, as Jesus NEVER died. You infidel dogs have been performing depraved and inhumane acts of cannibalism on a man Allah refers to as “That Man” as revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (And because of their saying (in boast), “We killed the Messiah Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah,” — but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it appeared so to them [the resemblance of Isa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)], and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)].

    Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an what Christian Cannibals are really eating when they symbolically eat the “real” Host of what they believe to be Jesus’ corpse. I have included the definition of host for those Christian’s who are too stupid to comprehend the meaning of their criminal actions. Host-any organism on or in which a parasitic organism lives for nourishment or protection.

    (And the whole hosts of Iblis [Satan] together.)

    Christian’s will be served the same food in the Hell-fire that they ate under the pretense of “Holy” Communion as disclosed in the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    (Verily, the tree of Zaqqum)

    (Will be the food of sinners.)

    (Which will neither nourish nor avail against hunger.)

    (Verily, it is a tree that springs out of the bottom of Hell-fire,)

    (The shoots of its fruit-stalks are like the heads of Shayatin [devils];)

    (An exact recompense [according to their evil crimes].)

    Reality check! Satan aka Israel aka Iblis is NOT a serpent. Satan is a jinn and was created from a smokeless flame of fire as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an. This means that every time you Christian Cannibals light a candle on the Altar, you invoke your god, Israel aka Satan in his original form, a smokeless flame of fire. The rotting corpse of “That Man” thought to be Jesus, hanging off of two phucking sticks is only a carnival distraction, it brings in the crowds, but the corpse is only for eating and desecrating, not worship. The “smokeless flame of fire” coming from the candle on the Altar is the object of Christian devotion.

    (“And [remember] when We said to the angels: “Prostrate yourselves unto Adam.” So they prostrated themselves except Satan. He was one of the jinn; he disobeyed the Command of his Lord. Will you then take him [Iblees] and his offspring as protectors and helpers rather than Me while they are enemies to you? What an evil is the exchange for the Zaalimoon [polytheists, and wrongdoers, etc.].)

    ([Iblis [Satan] said: “See this one whom You have honoured above me, if You give me respite [keep me alive] to the Day of Resurrection, I will surely seize and mislead his offspring [by sending them astray] all but a few!)

    (And the jinn: He created from a smokeless flame of fire.)

    On the Day of Resurrection, you demon-possessed, Christian ghouls will be reminded of your invoking your god, Satan in his original form as revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (On the Day when the torment [Hell-fire] shall cover them from above them and from underneath their feet, and it will be said: “Taste what you used to do.”)

    Disbelievers in the Oneness of Islamic Monotheism will spend eternity in prison, because Allah has made Hell a prison, but it won’t be all bad because Allah will provide entertainment as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an:

    ([And We said in the Taurat (Torah)]: “It may be that your Lord may show mercy to you, but if you return (to sins), We shall return (to Our Punishment). And We have made Hell a prison for the disbelievers.)

    (Then for him is an entertainment with boiling water.)

    You dream chasing, America cannibals should stop the bragging about your super power status, because Allah reveals in the following Verses of the Qur’an that you are only being tried and tested with power, and clearly you have failed the test. Instead of bragging about how you have decimated the world’s population and resources, you should ask yourselves, “Why did Allah, my Lord and Creator, write me in the script of life as the bad guys, destined for the Hell-fire?” You are ONLY acting out a script and Allah Alone knows the outcome of His Script aka the Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz. You dream chasing, American cannibals have NO power and only enough weapons to play out your own destruction and you will come to know that ALL power belongs to Allah Alone.

    (Everyone is going to taste death, and We shall make a trial of you with evil and with good. And to Us you will be returned.)

    (We created them not except with truth [i.e. to examine and test those who are obedient and those who are disobedient and then reward the obedient ones and punish the disobedient ones], but most of them know not.)

    (And everything, small and big, is written down (in Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz already beforehand i.e. before it befalls, or is done by its doer.)

    (No calamity befalls on the earth or in yourselves but it is inscribed in the Book of Decrees (Al-Lauh Al-Mahfuz) before we bring it into existence. Verily, that is easy for Allah.)

    The end result of the Pig Poachers of Palestine and their American slave’s evil efforts to contain aka subjugate the only free nation in the world, the unstoppable, nuclear capable and Islamic super power that is Iran, is revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an.

    (Say (O Muhammad to those who disbelieve: “You will be defeated and gathered together to Hell, and worst indeed is that place of rest.)

    Reality check! Satan aka Israel aka Iblis is NOT a serpent. Satan is a jinn and was created from a smokeless flame of fire as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an. This means that every time you Christian Cannibals light a candle on the Altar, you invoke your god, Israel in his original form, a smokeless flame of fire. The rotting corpse of “That Man” thought to be Jesus hanging off of two phucking sticks is only a sideshow distraction, “That Man’s” corpse is only for eating and desecrating, not worshipping. Eating the rotting corpse of “That Man” is not the worst crime Christian Cannibals commit in the name of their god, Satan. Evangelical’s transgress all bounds by inviting demons to possess their bodies so they can communicate with their god Satan by speaking in tongues. The fools believe demon possession is acceptable because the demons are “Holy” Ghosts and “Holy” Spirits. It appears that all it takes for a Christian to perform blasphemous acts of rebellion against his Lord and Creator, Allah, is to preface all of their evil with the word “Holy”. Also, Santa is an anagram of Satan.

    (“And [remember] when We said to the angels: “Prostrate yourselves unto Adam.” So they prostrated themselves except Satan. He was one of the jinn; he disobeyed the Command of his Lord. Will you then take him [Iblees] and his offspring as protectors and helpers rather than Me while they are enemies to you? What an evil is the exchange for the Zaalimoon [polytheists, and wrongdoers, etc.].)

    ([Iblis [Satan] said: “See this one whom You have honoured above me, if You give me respite [keep me alive] to the Day of Resurrection, I will surely seize and mislead his offspring [by sending them astray] all but a few!)

    (And the jinn: He created from a smokeless flame of fire.)

    On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will remind you Christian Cannibals of your diabolical act of invoking Satan in his original form as revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an.

    (On the Day when the torment [Hell-fire] shall cover them from above them and from underneath their feet, and it will be said: “Taste what you used to do.”)

    Allah reveals Israel to be the Jew’s father and NOT a country. The following Verses of the Qur’an also reveal the Jew’s to be lying about dietary/food restrictions they claim to justify their eating “Kosher” food. The Kosher label is quite evil, as it alerts Jew’s to the foods they have not POISONED. Kosher food labeling ONLY ensures the Jew’s a continuous and untainted food supply anywhere in the world, as the Jew’s have been poisoning the Arabs aka Children of Adam’s food since the beginning of time. Kosher is the equivalent of NOT POISONED, just as Zion is the equivalent of Hell and Goyim is the equivalent of slave. It was the Pig Poachers of Palestine who produced the E. Coli laden tomato seeds, which produced poisonous tomatoes, which ultimately killed 15 German citizens and sickened 365 and this is par for the course for the murdering devils.

    (All food was lawful to the Children of Israel, except what Israel made unlawful to himself before the Taurat (Torah) was revealed. Say (O Muhammad) “Bring here the Tauratt (Torah) and recite it, if you are truthful.)

    (And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely, “This is lawful and this is forbidden,” so as to invent lies against Allah. Verily, those who invent lies against Allah will never prosper.)

    Christians might want to reconsider their unconditional support for their pig poaching, organ-thieving masters. The vertical pigs aren’t harvesting organs for the mere purpose of extending their evil lives for say 10 years, nor for 50 years, not even for 500 years. Our Lord and Creator, Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an, the Pig Poachers of Palestine want to live to be 1,000 years old and stealing organs won’t accomplish this goal. Organ theft is only a facade for something far more sinister. The Pig Poachers of Palestine know they cannot extend their lives to 1,000 years from stolen organs, as such, the vertical pigs are working on a Fountain of Youth type serum that would enable them to live for 1,000 years and they are using the pituitary glands of their victims to develop this serum. The obvious theft of organs is only a cover for the theft of the pituitary gland and if the victims were to be exhumed, it would be discovered that ALL of the victims had their pituitary glands removed, the vertical pigs use the opening in the chest cavity to remove the pituitary gland.

    (And verily, you will find them [the Jews] the greediest of mankind for life and [even greedier] than those who ascribe partners to Allah [and do not believe in Resurrection-Majus {Magians}, pagans and idolators]. Everyone of them wishes that he could be given a life of a thousand years. But the grant of such a life will not save him even a little from due punishment. And Allah is All-Seer of what they do.)

    The Pig Poachers of Palestine were NEVER meant to have their own country because of the chaos they would cause, and the current state of world affairs does attest to the world chaos caused by them vertical pigs. Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an that He never gave the Jew’s any parcel of land to call a country by any name, including the name of their father Israel aka Satan. By virtue of the following Decrees, Israel will cease to exist before the Day of Resurrection and so will the Christian slave nations who are betraying their Muslim brothers and sisters to protect the hostile, perfidious pigs and their well-calculated crimes against human beings, which the Jew’s are NOT.

    (And We said to the Children of Israel after him: “Dwell in the land, then, when the final and the last promise comes near [i.e. the Day of Resurrection or the descent of Christ, Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) on the earth, We shall bring you altogether as a mixed crowd (gathered out of various nations).

    (And We have broken them [i.e. the Jews] up into various groups on the earth; some of them are righteous and some are away from that. And We tried them good [blessings] and evil calamities in order that they might turn to Allah’s Obedience.)

    The Jews are NOT Allah’s “Chosen People” nor are they Allah’s “Chosen Animals”, as it is revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an that Allah Cursed the Jews several times, as a result, the Jews aka jinn, monkeys, and swine are all related and from this monkey mix the Christians have taken for themselves a god, albeit a dead god, but he makes for good snacking.

    (And when there came to them (the Jews) a Book (this Qur’an) from Allah confirming what is with them [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)], although aforetime they had invoked Allah (for coming of Muhammad {pbuh}) in order to gain victory over those who disbelieved, then when there came to them that which they had recognized, they disbelieved in it. So let the Curse of Allah be on the disbelievers.)

    (Say [O Muhammad to the people of the Scripture): “Shall I inform you of something worse than that, regarding the recompense from Allah? Those [Jews] who incurred the Curse of Allah and His Wrath, and those of whom [some] He transformed into monkeys and swines, and those who worshipped Taghut [false deities]; such are worse in rank [on the Day of Resurrection in the Hell-fire], and far more astray from the Right Path [in the life of this world]”.)

    Allah reveals that Christian’s are worshippers of the jinn in the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    (And [remember] the Day when He will gather them all together, then He will say to the angels: “Was it you that these people used to worship?”)

    (They [the angels] will say: “Glorified are You! You are our Wali [Lord] instead of them. Nay, but they used to worship the jinn; most of them were believers in them.”)

    Allah will reward Christian’s with a new body for their lifelong devotion to the jinn aka Pig Poachers of Palestine. On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will transfigure ALL disbelievers in the Oneness of Islamic Monotheism into “…the lowest of the low…” as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    (We have decreed death to you all, and We are not outstripped,)

    (To transfigure you and create you in (forms) you know not.)

    (Verily, We created man in the best stature (mould).

    (Then We reduced him to the lowest of the low.)

    The following Ahadith describes the huge torso of the resurrected disbeliever:

    Narrated by Abu Hurairah: The Prophet said: “The width between the two shoulders of a kafir (disbeliever) will be equal to the distance covered by a fast rider in three days.”

    It is revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an and the following Ahadith, the resurrected disbeliever will NOT walk upright.

    (Is he who walks prone (without seeing) on his face, more right guided, or he who (sees and) walks upright on a Straight Way (Islamic Monotheism)?)

    (Narrated Anas bin Malik: A man said, “O Allah’s Prophet! Will Allah gather a disbeliever (prone) on his face on the Day of Resurrection?” He said, “Will not the One Who made him walk on his feet in this world, be able to make him walk on his face on the Day of Resurrection? (Qatadah, a subnarrator, said: “Yes, By the Power of Our Lord!”)

    The following Verse of the Qur’an describes the leg (s)? of the resurrected disbeliever.

    (And one leg will be joined with another leg (shrouded).)

    The hairless head of the resurrected disbeliever is described in the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    (Taking away [burning completely] the head skin!)

    It is revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an that many resurrected disbelievers will be blind.

    (“But whosoever turns away from My Reminder (i.e. neither believes in this Qur’an nor acts on its teachings.) verily, for him is a life of hardship, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Resurrection.”)

    The color of the resurrected disbelievers is disclosed in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (And on the Day of Resurrection you will see those who lied against Allah (i.e. attributed to Him sons, partners)—their faces will be black. Is there not in Hell an abode for the arrogant?)

    The skins of the resurrected disbelievers are described in detail in the following Verse of the Qur’an.

    (Surely! Those who disbelieved in Our Ayat [proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc], We shall burn them in Fire. As often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for other skins that they may taste the punishment. Truly, Allah is Ever Most Powerful, All-Wise.)

    It is revealed the heart will not be in the chest cavity of the resurrected disbelievers and the following Verse of the Qur’an reveals the heart’s location will not alter.

    (And warn them (O Muhammad {pbuh} of the Day that is drawing near (i.e. the Day of Resurrection), when the hearts will be choking the throats, and they can neither return them (hearts) to their chests nor can they throw them out. There will be no friend, nor an intercessor for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers), who could be given heed to.)

    Allah reveals in the following Verse of the Qur’an that He will change the nature of the resurrected disbelievers, rendering them unable to cry, scream or hear.

    (Therein they will be breathing out with deep sighs and roaring will be their portion and therein they will hear not.)

    It is revealed in the following Verse of the Qur’an that resurrected disbelievers will be branded like cattle:

    (We shall brand him on the snout (nose)!

    Living in the Hell-fire won’t be all bad, as our Lord, Allah will provide entertainment for the dwellers of the Hell-fire, which has been made into a prison for disbelievers according to the following Verses of the Qur’an.

    ([And We said in the Taurat (Torah)]: “It may be that your Lord may show mercy to you, but if you return (to sins), We shall return (to Our Punishment). And We have made Hell a prison for the disbelievers.)

    (Then for him is an entertainment with boiling water.)

    Let it be known! Christians, pagans and vertical pigs, are ALL disbelievers through no fault of their own, but by the Decree of Allah. If Allah found any good in any of you, you would be one of the Chosen People aka Muslims destined for Paradise, as opposed to the Hell-fire; the final destination of Christians, vertical pigs, pagans, etc. as revealed in the following Verses of the Qur’an

    (Turned aside therefrom (i.e. from Muhammad {pbuh} and the Qur’an) is he who is turned aside (by the Decree and Preordainment of Allah).

    (It is not for any person to believe, except by the Leave of Allah, and He will put the wrath on those who are heedless.)

    (“And my advice will not profit you, even if I wish to give you good counsel, if Allah’s Will is to keep you astray. He is your Lord! And to Him you shall return.”)

    (Had Allah known of any good in them, He would indeed have made them listen, and even if He had made them listen, they would but have turned away with; (A brief enjoyment in this world! And then to Us will be their return, then We shall make them taste the severest torment because they used to disbelieve [In Allah, deny his Messengers, deny and challenge His Ayat-proofs, signs, verses, etc.)

    Regarding “God Bless America”, Allah reveals the blessing He has bestowed upon the American dream chasers in the following Verse of the Qur’an:

    (They were pursued by a curse in this (deceiving life of this world) and (so they will be pursued by a curse) on the Day of Resurrection. Evil indeed is the gift given [i.e. the curse (in this world) pursued by another curse (in the Hereafter)].)

    ([This is the] Revelation sent down from the Lord of the Alamin [mankind, jinn and all that exists].)

    ([He is Allah] Owner of High Ranks and Degrees, the Owner of the Throne. He sends the revelation by His Command to any of His slaves He wills, that he (the person who receives revelation) may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting [i.e. the Day of Resurrection].

    (And We sent not a Messenger except with the language of his people, in order that he might make [the Message] clear for them. Then Allah misleads whom He wills and guides whom He wills. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.)

    (“And if you deny, then nations before you have denied [their Messengers]. And the duty of the Messenger is only to convey [the Message] plainly.”)

    (And never will your Lord destroy the towns [populations] until He sends to their mother town a Messenger reciting to them Our Verses. And never would We destroy the towns unless the people thereof are Zalimun [polytheists, wrong-doers, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah, oppressors and tyrants.)

    (And We sent to the them a Messenger from among themselves [saying]: “Worship Allah! You have no other Ilah [God] but Him. Will you not then be afraid [of Him i.e. of His punishment because of worshipping others besides Him]?”)

    (Then We sent Our Messengers in succession. Every time there came to a nation their Messenger, they denied him; so We made them follow one another [to destruction], and We made them as Ahadith [the true stories for mankind to learn a lesson from them]. So away with a people who believe not!)

    (Say to them (O Muhammad {pbuh}) “Travel in the land and see how has been the end of the Mujrimun (criminals, those who denied Allah’s Messengers and disobeyed Allah.)

    (Then [in the end] We save Our Messengers and those who believe! Thus it is incumbent upon Us to save the believers.)

    (Your Ilah [God] is One Ilah [God-Allah, none has the right to be worshipped but He])

    (“And indeed, We created man from dried [sounding] clay of altered mud. And the jinn, We created aforetime from the smokeless flame of fire.”).

    (And I have created the jinn and men only to worship Me).

    (And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.”)

    (So leave them [alone] to speak nonsense and play until they meet the Day of theirs which they have been promised.)

    (So leave them alone till they meet their Day, in which they will sink into a fainting [with horror].)

    (Surely, what you are promised must come to past.)

    Jameela
    Messenger of Allah
    & Defender of Islam
    19 July 2011

  • Anonymous

    You on the other hand ARE…! How many times have we gone over this? 

  • Anonymous

    Fact: If you decided to express your opinion, without insulting people, you wouldn’t get so much crap for the errors in your post. However, since that is not the case, the word you’re looking for, in the above post, is “you’re”.

  • Wake up America

    She’s trying to save her reputation because she was had. She now qualifies as a “Stupified American”. 56 precent of Americans were had. Trying hard to separate herself from those Americans.

  • Anonymous

    That news should make your day..

  • nancillarypeloslinton

    I think Peggy Noonan meant that since BHO took office this country has been bled dry.

  • Anonymous

    You should go to a real school that teaches true history and learn who Uncle Tom really was…

  • nancillarypeloslinton

    To clarify, we’ve ‘lost a lot of money since BHO took office. Something about banks and wall street having a lot more money now than they did under GWB.

  • Anonymous

    What’s an EBT card?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    She is probably the most annoying and disingenuous member of the pundit class. She is always opining with that look on her face like she is in deep thought as to fool simpletons into thinking what she has to say carries any weight, she has always annoyed me more than any of the others of the pundit class, and frankly she isn’t really much of a conservative bombthrower, she is just a simple person with simple ideas but tries to convince her audience that she is deep with that fake look of thoughtfulness.

  • realheadline

    Don’t you just love having halfwit libs with a tv education and no math or reasoning sklls pretend to correct your posts?  Hey lib,  that may have been a run on sentece.  Go fetch boy!  Hahahahaha…………

  • Whitj1966

    She is a wingnut.  She’s mad because Boener and the GOP crashed and burned in the House.  Pres. Obama is making the GOP look like chumps.  

  • Nanotica07

    I do not understand why if the Republicans want a smaller government, they are still there, getting a paycheck from the government and accusing The President for not creating jobs. If this is a capitalist country, the jobs should come from the private sector, but the private sector send jobs overseas and pay almost no taxes. The President of the US is a Great President, history will show it. Meanwhile he has had to deal with the past. He saved the Auto Industry and Wall Street from collapsing. But now, the private industry if they are about patriotism and not just about making money should come to the plate. There are many ways to be patriotic.

    Nanotica  

  • etrigan

    Those jobs were sold years in advance to circumvent taxes and increase the bottom line. Blame Obamacare all you want.

  • Whitj1966

    The GOP game is over and Obama is chess master.  What you are witnessing is the implosion of the GOP.  Obama will win in 2012 because people know that the GOP is setting him up for failure and that mean act gives Obama the support from good people.  I love to see the attack dogs come out when the GOP makes a U know what out of themselves.  You all are not upset with Obama.  You are upset at the GOP because obama always win in the long run.  

  • Anonymous

    Trica I appreciate your support but please don’t jump into the middle of the conversation when you have no idea what that idiot said.  Thankfully it was deleted by moderators.  I am fully aware of what Uncle Tom means, I was responding to the dope above.

  • Anonymous

    Really trica??  Really??  You condone the racist remarks made by that idiot?  Why do you feel the need to respond to all of my comments?

  • Anonymous

    If you don’t know, then consider yourself lucky.

  • Anonymous

    Which 501(c4) do you work for ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    Another illiterate tea bagger. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QSKMPRZSWAHFSA2HMYAWRPJUKU Gary

    Fact: You are a slob in your mom’s basement eating Cheeto’s in your fudgy undies while Fox news blasts on the tv.  Learn some grammar.  Then go take a shower.

  • Anonymous

    If you believe that dope is a conservative, I got a bridge for sell.  He’s just joined and only has 4 comments, I can spot a troll from a mile away.

  • John

    ” Conservatives like Noonan should wait to call him a loser until he actually loses something. ” Are you kidding me this so called commander in chief is anything but a leader. He has lost the confidence of the American people, he has lost the grip of our budget, he has lost control and divided the nation. He by himself has done more than any other president to lose the respect of the oval office. Period.

  • Anonymous

    Awe – let me quote Obama here:

    Tommy is “all wee weed up” over Peggy’s column.

    The republicans have compromised enough, it is time for the democrats and Obama to stop complaining and being babies and step up to the plate and act like grown ups. Tommy, like his democrat buttbuddies (I can say that right, since I’m quoting Ed Schultz’s jouvenile language) are the ones being the babies here.

  • Anonymous

    Awe – let me quote Obama here:

    Tommy is “all wee weed up” over Peggy’s column.

    The republicans have compromised enough, it is time for the democrats and Obama to stop complaining and being babies and step up to the plate and act like grown ups. Tommy, like his democrat buttbuddies (I can say that right, since I’m quoting Ed Schultz’s jouvenile language) are the ones being the babies here.

  • http://twitter.com/verumserum Verum Serum

    If Sarah Palin had written that line about when the SWAT finally “takes the shot”, Tommy would write a post trashing her eliminationist rhetoric.

    So much for the new tone I guess.

  • http://twitter.com/verumserum Verum Serum

    If Sarah Palin had written that line about when the SWAT finally “takes the shot”, Tommy would write a post trashing her eliminationist rhetoric.

    So much for the new tone I guess.

  • http://twitter.com/Lyriq74 Angela N. Mincy

    So Peggy, there’s no love for Obama eh?  Please explain why your site is currently unavailable.  Is it possible that some of his 9 million plus followers on Twitter are showing you how much they love him after all.  Please explain.

  • http://twitter.com/Lyriq74 Angela N. Mincy

    So Peggy, there’s no love for Obama eh?  Please explain why your site is currently unavailable.  Is it possible that some of his 9 million plus followers on Twitter are showing you how much they love him after all.  Please explain.

  • http://twitter.com/Lyriq74 Angela N. Mincy

    So Peggy, there’s no love for Obama eh?  Please explain why your site is currently unavailable.  Is it possible that some of his 9 million plus followers on Twitter are showing you how much they love him after all.  Please explain.

  • http://twitter.com/Lyriq74 Angela N. Mincy

    So Peggy, there’s no love for Obama eh?  Please explain why your site is currently unavailable.  Is it possible that some of his 9 million plus followers on Twitter are showing you how much they love him after all.  Please explain.

  • Tstickles

    lets see what you have to say when we default Peggy a
    ‘”loser” really. Please step aside for a moment list your accomplishments and then his who wins
    No way for anyone to get to a compromise with that talk. disagree fine name calling grow up

  • Anonymous

    Really! I do not condone racist comments, being black, living in America I’ve had to put with such crap all my life. I was reacting to what seem to me was your glee in the fact that blacks are getting poorer. You seem to be saying that because we have had a black POTUS for the past 2 years, black people should  now be richer than everyone else in the USA, and you seem so happy to point that’s not the case with a black POTUS. As for jumping in your biz with PRO, I take offense when one of MY black heroes(Uncle Tom) is maligned and made to appear to be the opposite of what he really was. I also want to say to you that you were civil, asked politely and did not call me the usual mean spirited names I get in replies to my comment here. That counts. So I’ll try to abstain for from replying to your comments, unless they do offend me racially.     

  • realheadline

    You’re about as deep as a dishrag dochebag. Why don’t you break out a psychology textbook and look up what it says about people that openly display the character flaws you flaunt. The constant correction of others, the repetitive sexual references, constantly chasing ‘ego’ based reinforcement. A textbook example——-you’re not going to like the answer. Really …..look it up. You may learn something that the adults on this site already know.

  • Anonymous

    Peggy Noonan is what every conservative loves best.. a hate monger with a smile..

    They create the problem and then whine no matter which way the President moves..

  • Anonymous

    Republicans want to spread the sacrifice.. some with old folks..some with social security recipients..some with the sick.. 

    Obama should be more of a leader..bashing the heads of Republicans just like Roosevelt..

  • Anonymous

    I’m lucky then cause I don’t know, since you do know does that mean you are unlucky?

  • Helorisc

    peggy you a hater

  • Helorisc

    peggy you a hater

  • Anonymous

    I’ll give that bubble brained Pollock credit for one thing.  She is going down with the ship.  . . . . ..  or in this case the eggplant.

  • Anonymous

    I appreciate your civility in return as well, that being said I wasn’t gleeful in pointing out the disappearing black middle class.  I am using it to contrast the result of liberal policies vs. a more conservative approach which I am an advocate of.  I don’t look at Obama as a black man, I see him as a liberal man.  If I can be totally honest I actually voted for him, he had me snookered like so many others.  I believed in what he had to say and found it refreshing to see a politician that stayed out of the gutter.  I have never regretted a decision more, but i will own it because I made it.

  • mcholmes14

    Ms Noonan is a smarmy, whiney, self-congradulatory prig. That said, it should be repeated every time this ‘oh so sincere’ flotsom appears in print, or broadcast.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is bi-racial- he had a very real WHITE mother whose family was also the side who raised him- in a very private school in Indonesia & Hawaii. The majority of White America had absolutely no problem with the color of our presidents skin. STOP with the racist argument already.

  • Anonymous

    It’s the new way to distribute and utilize food stamps.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CQWUTBF2KSSVOXCR4PSN66L2PM James

    I’m not a teabagger. Wy would you think that?

  • Anonymous

    In over his head in the White House- in Chicago he was just fine going with business as usual. His style of politics doesn’t work when there are actually people who don”t agree with him, respect him or need something from him. Nothing inconsistent with that. The only experience he brought with him to the WH was Chicago politics and when he attempts to “govern” and get things done, he can only apply what he has learned. 

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Obamanomics 101. Pat to move businesses to
    China buy lower priced goods from them as the same plan he has on oil drilling
    for our national oil consumption needs. Pay Brazil money for rigs and then by
    cheaper oil from them too. Net gains unemployment in both fields here at home.
    Change you can count on them he will tax you for your change.

  • Anonymous

    Description of Appeal to PopularityThe Appeal to Popularity has the following form:
    Most people approve of X (have favorable emotions towards X).
    Therefore X is true.The basic idea is that a claim is accepted as being true simply because most people are favorably inclined towards the claim. More formally, the fact that most people have favorable emotions associated with the claim is substituted in place of actual evidence for the claim. A person falls prey to this fallacy if he accepts a claim as being true simply because most other people approve of the claim.It is clearly fallacious to accept the approval of the majority as evidence for a claim. For example, suppose that a skilled speaker managed to get most people to absolutely love the claim that 1+1=3. It would still not be rational to accept this claim simply because most people approved of it. After all, mere approval is no substitute for a mathematical proof. At one time people approved of claims such as “the world is flat”, “humans cannot survive at speeds greater than 25 miles per hour”, “the sun revolves around the earth” but all these claims turned out to be false.This sort of ”reasoning” is quite common and can be quite an effective persusasive device. Since most humans tend to conform with the views of the majority, convincing a person that the majority approves of a claim is often an effective way to get him to accept it. Advertisers often use this tactic when they attempt to sell products by claiming that everyone uses and loves their products. In such cases they hope that people will accept the (purported) approval of others as a good reason to buy the product.This fallacy is vaguely similar to such fallacies as Appeal to Belief and Appeal to Common Practice. However, in the case of an Ad Populum the appeal is to the fact that most people approve of a claim. In the case of an Appeal to Belief, the appeal is to the fact that most people believe a claim. In the case of an Appeal to Common Practice, the appeal is to the fact that many people take the action in question.This fallacy is closely related to the Appeal to Emotion fallacy, as discussed in the entry for that fallacy.Examples of Appeal to Popularity”My fellow Americans…there has been some talk that the government is overstepping its bounds by allowing police to enter peoples’ homes without the warrantstraditionally required by the Constitution. However, these are dangerous times and dangerous times require appropriate actions. I have in my office thousands of letters from people who let me know, in no uncertain terms, that they heartily endorse the war against crime in these United States. Because of this overwhelming approval, it is evident that the police are doing the right thing.”

  • Anonymous

    Fact: So use it like you’re mama or is it your mama like I used it above?

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Thank you liberal to bad you guys aren’t good with math! Shame isn’t it!

  • Anonymous

    Fact: We already ahead of you again because Ann Coulter has provided us with a book on how liberals talk.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: We already ahead of you again because Ann Coulter has provided us with a book on how liberals talk.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Not a Krugman liberal by any means. My grammer is fine its my typing. I’m not a woman like you that had typing in school because I was in sports not the band. What did you play?

  • http://www.facebook.com/bruce.kennedy3 Bruce Kennedy

    It’ really sad that “Joe”  has no clue as to what is happening on Capitol Hill. He says the Republicans have leaders, and then rattles off Boehner and McConnell’s names. He’s not serious is he? Let’s see, was Boehner going to call for a vote on “his” final attempt at a “debt reduction” bill, last night? He is Speaker of the House, and thus the theoretical leader of the Republicans, in the House. How did that vote go last night?. Oh, what’s that you say, there was no vote?  What happened there? Boehner is the leader, right?. Boehner is no more the leader of the House Republicans than Newt Gingrich. And you can say all you want about McConnell but there is nothing he can get passed in the Senate without Democratic help. So Joe, don’t give me this BS that the Republicans have leaders on their side of the aisle, it just won’t fly. I’d be surprise if old Boehner is Speaker much longer.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: My typing or your stupid ideas? Don’t worry grasshopper some day you to may learn a thing or two if you quit parroting others.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: My typing or your stupid ideas? Don’t worry grasshopper some day you to may learn a thing or two if you quit parroting others.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: My typing or your stupid ideas? Don’t worry grasshopper some day you to may learn a thing or two if you quit parroting others.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: My typing or your stupid ideas? Don’t worry grasshopper some day you to may learn a thing or two if you quit parroting others.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: My typing or your stupid ideas? Don’t worry grasshopper some day you to may learn a thing or two if you quit parroting others.

  • Searle6

    Yes it’s true I click on these articles of my own free will, but it would be lovely to be able to find out who is “Tommy” Christopher and where his experience and expertise stacks up against somebody like Peggy Noonah. 

  • Anonymous

    Pray tell, why in the world do you think there is ACTUALLY ANY gold in Fort Knox?

  • Anonymous

    Since I found someone on this forum(you) that i believe wants to discuss stuff and not just sling fiery arrows, I would like to ask you why do you consider being a liberal a bad thing? I am lucky, I’ve had good jobs all my working career and made a good living. But I grew up dirt poor in the south (still live here). Both my parents worked from sun-up until sun down, we (kids) also had to pitch in. This was hard physical labor. Yet we never could make it past being poor. I’m a life long democrat because I stay with the ones that brought me. So far the POTUS I admire most is Lyndon Johnson. Anyway what’s wrong with wanting to help people like my parents who work hard everyday, live honest lives, yet can’t afford to take a sick day off work (or visit a MD) when ill because they need the money to pay their rent, light bill, and so on? Whats wrong with them getting the much needed help from the Gov’t because of the low paying jobs they have, with benefits besides the pay check?  
      

  • Anonymous

    Fact:Teabaggers means the insertion of one man’s sack into another person’s mouth. Used a practical joke or prank, when performed on someone who is asleep, or as a sexual act this is an act of a democrat.
    Gary you are illiterate democrat that gets pranked allot.

  • Anonymous

    Fact:Teabaggers means the insertion of one man’s sack into another person’s mouth. Used a practical joke or prank, when performed on someone who is asleep, or as a sexual act this is an act of a democrat.
    Just like pranks right?

  • Anonymous

    He isn’t a loser; he is a massive loser!

  • Anonymous

    Nice try…it was your out-of-context use of the word “genuine” that constituted the ad hominem attack on your part.  The source was making the point that whatever he thought of Bush’s policies, at least as a person he came across as being real.  No, not “real misguided”, as I’m sure you’d like to twist, but real in the sense of he was the person he projected himself to be.  And that –according to Noonan– is at the core of Obama’s failings.  So again, how about a little honesty here on your part?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CQWUTBF2KSSVOXCR4PSN66L2PM James

    I know what it means. I thought he was acusing me being part the tea party.

  • realheadline

    Very good snowspot  Right or left a working knowledge of all the fallacies is essential for reasonable debate  Name-calling can be fun but it gets old. Thanks for the refresher. Did you say “fallacious”??  You better double check that……………………. just kidding.

  • http://www.IndiaCurry.com Yogi Gupta

    I agree with Searle6. Mediaite should include one tab ‘about Mediaite’. This page should detail the ownership, mission of the website, management structure, and short resume of each manager and columnist. Resume should include their education, and experience in the journalism. It would be nice if the columnist would also fess up to their political bias and list their party affiliation and the candidate supported for the president in the previous election. No need for personal information such as marital status, race, color, gender, number of kids, and church/mosque/temple affiliations.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZIQS6YEA47QFXGOR4JWUBU2QRM Shark City

    I can not tell which one better defending the president. Jay Carney or Tommy Christopher?

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    This woman who is supposed to be so sophisticated and educated calls the President a loser because the tea party/Repub party is destroying the country. 
    She cheerleaded Reagan/Bush and the failed McCain.  yeah Obama is a loser u old drunk

  • Anonymous

    You can always tell when an a member in good standing of the Obamajugend writes something. It’s in screaming ALLCAPS and they constantly accuse MSNBC, a network filled with people who fight for space in Obama’s rectum, of being shills for Corporate America and the Republican Party.

    Jesus. Take a f**king pill, will you?

  • expatpatriot

    To all appearances, Noonan failed to get elected prom queen 50 years ago and still bears the scars. Maybe the WSJ should put her on less taxing duties, because I think she’s got only so many neurons still firing and once they’re done, she’s out of action for a week.

  • expatpatriot

    I’d agree. The list posted below just gives email addresses. I’d like to have a summary of the Mediaite team’s CVs.

    I’ll admit, given the preponderance of right-leaning posters here, I’d assumed the same was true of site administration (and I haven’t researched them myself).

  • expatpatriot

    Sure, but . . . human beings don’t live their lives according to formal logic. “Everybody loves it, so I should too” is a powerful motivator of behavior, regardless of any logical shortcomings.

    Polticians and used car salesmen get this. Academic types (not calling you one) often don’t.

  • expatpatriot

    I’d add that she’s not exactly at the top of her game, and hasn’t been for years.

  • Anonymous

    Comments I read every day totally refute rountry’s ideas…. or refudiate is perhaps a better word ?  Mr. Obama is a winner.  Peggy IMO is creepy.

  • Anonymous

    I saw this on Morning Joe this morning and almost fell out of bed.  I should not be surprised anymore about how Republicans can spin stuff.  Ms. Noonan comes on Morning Joe in her Pearls, with her hit job of an op-ed and calls President Obama a loser.  She was so pathetic and child-like. Ms. Noonan, Joe S. and all of their Republican propoganda partners like Limbaugh, and all the FOX NEWS gang have a hard time hiding their hatred for President Obama.  None of them can stand the fact that he is so much smarter than they are.  When he doesn’t perform in the manner they want and still comes out ahead they are FURIOUS.  They keep calling him weak, loser, and leading from behind…thinking if you keep saying it,  then somehow it will become true…Now lets say this out loud a few times and see if it sticks….Ms. Noonan is a LOSER!

    I know what Joe’s problem was this morning, he was still licking his wombs from yesterday when Lawrence O’Donnell came on his show and cleaned his clock.  Joe S. is a very aggressive pundit, but when he’s matched up with an equally aggressive journalist much smarter than him then he gets really mad.  I invite everyone to find some clips of yesterday’s Morning Joe with Lawrence O’Donnell, Lawrence made Joe look really bad…I loved it. 

  • http://MsUnderestimated.com MsUnderestimated

    Did anyone else besides me notice how Mika scrambled to find her White House-approved Blackberry during that attack on Obama? She finally found it under the papers and brought it close to here. I know she was expecting a phone call or text any moment. If she got a call, she did not let it show, but it’s so funny (and transparent) how close Mika (& MSNBC) are to this White House. Mika acted like a jilted girlfriend.

    GAWD, she is a petulant brat!

  • adler56

    You say you’re going down on us? No you’re not you freakin pervert. Righties are sick.

  • adler56

    I haven’t seen any attractive conservative women.  

  • adler56

    So you’re quoting Scarborough as an honest person. You know he suddenly resigned from Congress several years ago after killing his secretary- hardly a trustworthy person.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    I saw that too, O’Donnell made an ass of himself had to clean the spiddle off his chin, even Mika was embarrassed for him..  LOL  Maybe you should get up and have a cup of coffee before you start watching in the mornings, things might make better sense.

  • Ingen

    So Fsnook, does putting all the debt on the books,make it your debt or does it make you an honest book keeper?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Nice post, I saw one earlier, I kinda like them bring us more..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VPOX7QKJCIVFGUSF5W2W4Z4LXE esther

    AMEN!!!!

  • Ingen

    Not true in federal elections.  You have to report Any and ALL contributions.   State and Local elections have non reporting at less than $100 and $200 depending on the State.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Obama actually paid for a Brazilian Storage platform in the Gulf of Mexico after the oil spill.. US dollars developing Brazilian oil efforts in the Gulf of Mexico…  How does that work?

  • expatpatriot

    Yep and “santorum” is merely the name of a 1-term Republican senator who desperately scrambles for relevance in a world that’s tossed him aside.

    Sorry, once a Teabagger organization used that term to describe itself, all bets were off. Reality (Popular Culture Branch) is a bitch.

  • expatpatriot

    Right. Appearing to be an illiterate oaf with the keyboard equivalent of Tourette’s Syndrome makes you soooooo more credible.

    But don’t stop on my account.

  • expatpatriot

    Dildo? Bugger? Fellate? Which Hobbit did you say you were?

  • Anonymous

    she supported him because she was afraid of sarah palin being elected..so now she will throw stones…
    this country was in free fall due to bush as of 9/15/08 before the the pres was elected it took 10yrs to crash & will not be fixed in 2yrs
    she’s the loser & she’s past her sell by date

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    go wash your face…  there are reasons other than lack of intellect that people have difficulties with spelling..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Coz she’s just nasty like that. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Coz she’s just nasty like that. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Coz she’s just nasty like that. 

  • expatpatriot

    Wow. Being able to type is “womanly?” How do they get power to the cave you live in? (See, we’re giving up on the Mom’s Basement theory.)

  • expatpatriot

    Wow. Being able to type is “womanly?” How do they get power to the cave you live in? (See, we’re giving up on the Mom’s Basement theory.)

  • Anonymous

    she supported him because she was afraid of sarah palin being elected..so now she will throw stones…
    this country was in free fall due to bush as of 9/15/08 before the the pres was elected it took 10yrs to crash & will not be fixed in 2yrs
    she’s the loser & she’s past her sell by date

  • Anonymous

    I’m talking about your penchant for exposing your ignorance in the process of attempting to insult people, and it’s “too” by the way.

  • Anonymous

    I’m talking about your penchant for exposing your ignorance in the process of attempting to insult people, and it’s “too” by the way.

  • jimmygeewhiz

    Does your small mind ever tire from the nastiness it exudes?  You continue to show your lack of anymore than a grade school education, mom must be proud.

  • Anonymous

    No, the quote was : “You might think he was totally misguided but he seemed genuinely so. . . . ”

    The “so” in “genuinely so” means “misguided.” I didn’t say it, Noonan’s source did. 

    Aside form that, though, calling Bush “misguided” isn’t ad hominem, it’s a valid criticism of his policy aims and achievements.  

  • Anonymous

    The constant correction of others? I think that I have made quite clear the reason that I point out just4thefax’s errors. The first thing he ever said to me was “Fact: You are a Looser”. That was his reply to a post of mine. I hadn’t insulted him. I wasn’t disrespectful. I just had the nerve to post something that, it turns out, he didn’t agree with. I made it known then, and continue to make it known, that if you aren’t going to be civil enough to refrain from personal insults, you should at least not expose your own deficiencies in the process of insulting someone. Is that too much to ask for, realheadline?

    As for the repetitive sexual references, could you elaborate? I really don’t know what you’re alluding to.

    Your attempt to attribute character flaws to me, based on your diagnosis from my posts, and expectation that I will then research said character flaws, which I never acknowledged having to begin with, and ultimately come away feeling bad about myself, is laughable and has much in common with a straw man argument.

    I don’t know what your grievance with me is. Your handle isn’t even familiar. Perhaps you’re affiliated with just4thefax. Perhaps you’re just another person who judges right or wrong based off of where a person falls on the political spectrum. Perhaps you were just a little too eager to sit at the grown-ups table, hastily jumping into the conversation with little understanding of who you were addressing.

  • Anonymous

    It’s side-splitting to see the Leftists who despised Bush vocally for eight years now taking great umbrage and offense at what is happening to ‘Their Boy’ after less than two years! What a bunch of Limp Wrists!!

  • Anonymous

    too

  • Anonymous

    too

  • Anonymous

    I think you’re looking at the wrong example, from your post. To answer your question, “your” mama is correct. You might also want to broaden your understanding of what constitutes a fact. I know it’s your gimmick and all, but you don’t want to run it into the ground through overuse and misapplication.

  • Teresa

    I did not know who Ms. Noonan was until I saw what she wrote about Obama
    in the Wall Street Journal.  I was not surprised by her
    oligarch bias working as she does for the discredited, amoral, 
    political manipulator, Rupert “tabloid” Murdoch.  Ms. Noonan and her
    sponsors have manufactured an environment where deceit and the “lie of
    omission” is the order of the day. Obama is wisely treading very
    carefully through the landmines left for
    him by Ms. Noonan’s funders. Obama avoids entrapment and wins.  Ms.
    Noonan’s fall back position is to project that he is sly and a loser. 
    When venomous slander passes for political commentary we all lose.  No
    wonder Congress and our citizens are divided to the point of
    dysfunction.  Wake up America. This is not
    political commentary, it is political hackery.

    Obama’s  statesmanship,
    warmth, integrity and genuine concern for the citizens of this country
    speaks for itself.

  • Jim213

    Well at least republicans are more mature then to lower themselves to name calling.

  • http://www.IndiaCurry.com Yogi Gupta

    I am conservative-indepenedent. The posters on this website seem to be good mix of all stripes of political persuations. Most of the posters are respectful of each other, with few exceptions. You will find them out soon and learn to cope with them. One poster really got on my nerves with personal attacks. But it passed. I am 69, and retired. This site is a good diversion for me.
    I am realtively new here, I am not familiar with the management matrix or all the columnists. Most of the columnists at this site seem to be shades of progressive liberals. I have read a few columns by Tommy Christopher, author of this column. I am almost certain that Tommy is bleeding heart liberal.
    I hope your experience is pleasant, and enjoy this site as I do.

  • Anonymous

    I live overseas and I called up some of my friends the other day, all were strong Obambi supporters during the election and afterwards, but no longer!  Two have turned completely against him and my cousin, who is a die hard Obamatron, will no longer talk or brag about him like he used to do, in fact, he will not even speak politics any longer because of his embarrassment over supporting an obvious Loser.  Funny, in Washington, if you speak the Truth, you have to explain why it is the truth to the MSM who are repeatedly perverting the news with Lies.  The whole Washington Toilet needs flushed of these Leftist Scum!

  • http://www.IndiaCurry.com Yogi Gupta

    Thanks for the URL. That was useful. It still lacked the background info on the staff

  • http://www.IndiaCurry.com Yogi Gupta

    Thanks for the URL. That was useful. It still lacked the background info on the staff

  • expatpatriot

    Funny, I live overseas too, and when I call my friends (Skype, mostly) we end up talking politics almost every time. When I was back home I probably wouldn’t have had a political conversation more often than every week or so, but because I’m online for a limited time and a long way away, the topic always seems to turn to the “state of the nation.”

    And my experience is 180 degrees from yours. Obama supporters I talk to are disgusted with the extent to which the wingnutariat is chasing chaos in search of ideological purity, but Obama is praised for holding up. He’s earned as many points for telling off Republicans as he’s lost for coddling them.

    We all pretty much agree he should have kicked more Republican butt a lot sooner, but are united in our appreciation of how tough the job has been, given the catastrophe-in-the-making he inherited.

    P.S.: That assessment is largely shared in the US expatriate community with whom I communicate (I can speak for those in London and Australia, where I’m usually sitting), which as you can imagine is largely made up of hard-headed businessmen.

  • Dflojak

    Like I said, review the tape. You’ll see Mika, as stated below, frowning and upset, and if anyone would counter a lie about her messiah, Mika would have bitch slapped Joe, but it didn’t happen. Try to keep your comments to facts. Oh, sorry, you’re a progressive, facts, we don’t need no stinkin facts.

    And any day whining larry kicks someone’s ass, i’d like to be there, because he’s have to pull his head out of his own first to be able to find someone else’s.

  • Dflojak

    Facts, we don’t need no stinkin’ facts. How lame are you dude.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/24V6QGD3LM6K747A2GAIAIE64E Eld

    Obama is not a loser – but he is indeed weak. Giving away the milk and the store is not a winning strategy. He’s too naive and trusting of ppl, especially, his foes. He needs to take a more aggressive approach with the GOP.  And as for Ms.Peggy Noonan, she is your typical, republican, female wench. She has this ora of elitism and arrogance – a snob. 

  • Teresa

     I did not know who Ms. Noonan was until I saw what she wrote about
    Obama in the Wall Street Journal.  I was not surprised by her
    oligarch bias working as she does for the discredited, amoral, 
    political manipulator, Rupert “tabloid” Murdoch.  Ms. Noonan and her
    sponsors have manufactured an environment where deceit and the “lie
    of omission” is the order of the day. Obama is wisely treading very
    carefully through the landmines left for him by Ms. Noonan’s
    funders. Obama avoids entrapment and wins.  Ms. Noonan’s fall back
    position is to project that he is sly and a loser.  When venomous
    slander passes for political commentary we all lose.  No wonder
    Congress and our citizens are divided to the point of dysfunction. 
    Wake up America. This is not political commentary, it is political
    hackery.

    Obama’s  statesmanship, warmth, integrity and genuine concern for
    the citizens of this country speaks for itself.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZSKETECBAFDEAUOUML4ICTKLAA Alex

    Oh please. I guess to people like you, Rachel Maddow, Janet Reno, Janet Napolitano, Madeline Albright, Nancy Pelosi, Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Sonia Sotomayor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and Elana Kagan are so hot. But, come on, you’d have to be blind not to say people like Malkin, Ingraham, Palin, Bachmann, Coulter, Crowley, Perino, Rice, Kelly, Blackburn, are a whole lot more attractive than those liberal women I mentioned above.

  • Anonymous

    Noonan’s a nut. She has lost any good sense she may have once had. She should consider retiring and staying out of public view. Perhaps she is suffering from the same disease that took her boss. One wonders. 

  • Bergglendat

    Huh?  Didn’t know we were back to the old misogynistic and sexist rallying cries of who’s more attractive in regard to political participants.  Attractive doesn’t necessarily mean good-looking; Clinton et. al ARE attractive to me because they are brilliant, hard-working and successful at what they do, thank you very much.  The opposite is true of the “attractive” women you have mentioned.  That’s the truth and I’m sticking to it.

  • Di

    You need to accept the fact that your party is scared of him and doing their best to make him a failure.  Ain’t gona happen!!!

  • Di

    You need to accept the fact that your party is scared of him and doing their best to make him a failure.  Ain’t gona happen!!!

  • http://twitter.com/storeyy storeyy

    as long as people like u continue to feed into this Republican rehtoric we are truly doomed……let’s look at the evidence.:“THE REPUBLICAN PLAN OF FORCED AMNESIA.1. WE HAD A $236-BILLI­ON SURPLUS IN 2000. The last year of the Cli.nton presidency­, we had a $236-billi­on surplus. Alan Greenspan, the Heritage Foundation and the CBO said the surpluses would last to 2011 and would pay off ALL ACCUMULATE­D DEBT by 2006. By 2010, we were projected to have a $1-trillio­n in the bank.2. THE REPUBLICAN­S OPPOSED HAVING A SURPLUS. As soon as we had a surplus, Republican­s opposed it.Alan Greenspan said: “surpluses distort the structure of private economic growth.”The Heritage Foundation­s said: the only “the only responsibl­e course of action” was to get rid of the surpluses.Cheney said: “Ronald Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.”3. TO GET RID OF THE SURPLUS, REPUBLICAN­S BEGAN SPENDING. First, they allowed PAYGO to expire, which would have required them to pay for new spending with cuts else where or new revenue. They immediatel­y passed:a. Two Tax Cuts. Cost = $440-billi­on per yearb. Two wars. Cost = $170-billi­on per year c. Two New Medicare Programs. Cost = $100-billi­on per year.d. Interest on Bush Debt of $5-trillio­n = $175-billi­onTotal $885-billi­on annual costs.Since the new programs are not paid for by spending cuts or tax increases, we have another $30-billio­n in interest payments every year.10 Year Costs: $9.2-trill­ion.4. THE TRICK: CUT THE WRONG PROGRAMS. The Republican­s are now willing to wreck the economy to force cuts to programs that didn’t cause the problem. Instead of cutting the programs that caused the problem, they want to cut Social Security, Medicare, Planned Parenthood and NPR.5. PAUL RYAN’S PROGRAM ACTUALLY INCREASES THE DEBT. According to the CBO, if we do nothing, the Debt will reach 67% of GDP by 2022. If we pass Paul Ryan’s plan, the the DEBT will 70%!6. HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM IN THREE YEARS. According to the CBO, if we Repeal the Bush Tax Cuts, the budget would be balanced by 2015 and we generate surplus by 2021. If we cut all three Bush programs, the debt would decrease to just 31% of GDP by 2022, the lowest level since the 1980′s.”

  • http://twitter.com/storeyy storeyy

    “THE REPUBLICAN PLAN OF FORCED AMNESIA.1. WE HAD A $236-BILLI­ON SURPLUS IN 2000. The last year of the Cli.nton presidency­, we had a $236-billi­on surplus. Alan Greenspan, the Heritage Foundation and the CBO said the surpluses would last to 2011 and would pay off ALL ACCUMULATE­D DEBT by 2006. By 2010, we were projected to have a $1-trillio­n in the bank.

    2. THE REPUBLICAN­S OPPOSED HAVING A SURPLUS. As soon as we had a surplus, Republican­s opposed it.Alan Greenspan said: “surpluses distort the structure of private economic growth.”The Heritage Foundation­s said: the only “the only responsibl­e course of action” was to get rid of the surpluses.

    Cheney said: “Ronald Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.”3. TO GET RID OF THE SURPLUS, REPUBLICAN­S BEGAN SPENDING. First, they allowed PAYGO to expire, which would have required them to pay for new spending with cuts else where or new revenue. They immediatel­y passed:a. Two Tax Cuts. Cost = $440-billi­on per yearb. Two wars. Cost = $170-billi­on per year c. Two New Medicare Programs. Cost = $100-billi­on per year.d. Interest on Bush Debt of $5-trillio­n = $175-billi­onTotal $885-billi­on annual costs.Since the new programs are not paid for by spending cuts or tax increases, we have another $30-billio­n in interest payments every year.10 Year Costs: $9.2-trill­ion.4. THE TRICK: CUT THE WRONG PROGRAMS. The Republican­s are now willing to wreck the economy to force cuts to programs that didn’t cause the problem. Instead of cutting the programs that caused the problem, they want to cut Social Security, Medicare, Planned Parenthood and NPR.5. PAUL RYAN’S PROGRAM ACTUALLY INCREASES THE DEBT. According to the CBO, if we do nothing, the Debt will reach 67% of GDP by 2022. If we pass Paul Ryan’s plan, the the DEBT will 70%!6. HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM IN THREE YEARS. According to the CBO, if we Repeal the Bush Tax Cuts, the budget would be balanced by 2015 and we generate surplus by 2021. If we cut all three Bush programs, the debt would decrease to just 31% of GDP by 2022, the lowest level since the 1980′s.”

  • fwg

      I’m a bit surprized Tommy did’nt get Keith Olbermann’s name in this piece.

  • Walter Brown7

    The American people need to call this for what it is “The
    Republicans haven’t always been against increasing the federal debt ceiling.
    This is the first time in recent history (the past decade or so) that no
    Republican has voted for the increase. In fact, on most of the ten other votes
    to increase the federal debt limit that the Senate has taken since 1997, the
    Republicans provided the majority of the votes in favor.” President Reagan did
    it 18 times. George W. Bush did it seven times. Now we have the first black
    president in the American history, and now it is an issue. Remember what Senate Republican leader
    Mitch McConnell stated on day one. “Mitch McConnell declared at the
    beginning of his term as Speaker that his primary mission was to make President
    Obama a one-term president.” Again, the news media should be calling this for
    what it is. Moreover, the result, the American people, other military active duty,
    and military retired like me will be the only casualties from this standoff.

  • Lhmonfleury

    I am beginning to think that Ms Noonan is  sold  out  to  America’s wealthy Bunch and Corporate magnets . The last article I read from her didn’t make much  sense.Too much  time  spent with  W.S.J boss ?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZZTVX5QD3OYALIBSUEDZDGDPMM Kamalanii Kapala

    Peggy! I agree with you 100%

  • Anonymous

    Piggy Noonan is finally showing her true gutter colors – low ball name calling is so juvenile and unenlightened.  She likes to project herself as a media elitist and psuedo intellectual conservative brain with her highly affected speech and contrived mannerisms.  She’s such an out-of-touch, ivory tower phoney.  She might want to travel the country a bit to see how the other half lives and what they have to deal with before getting on her 3rd grade high horse slinging infantile judgements against a “loser” whose job she couldn’t even begin to deal with.  Those who can – do.  Those who can’t – gutter sling.  It’s OK to have a point of view and opinion, but calling the president of the United States a “loser”??  Disrespectful, undignified and lacking the decorum from someone who likes to project herself as a classy conservative.  Funny.  She comes across more like a silly, pathetic, immature, mud-slinging, partisan ninny.  See….. I can name call.  I don’t pretend to be a highfalutin spotlight loving conservative TV pundit.  I’m just a regular person.  She should know better and take the high road being in the media and having the power to set a more respectful tone and discourse from her lofty pedastal.  Shame on you, Piggy.  You thought you were better than that.  But I knew all along the class-act was just that . . . an “act”.  True colors never rang truer than in her WSJ op-ed piece.  By the way, Piggy – how do you like the defense cuts in the deal??  Funny how a “loser” to conservative piggies seem like a “winner” to thoughtful progressives.  Hahahaha.  Take a big bite out of them apples you devil woman.  I repeat….. I can name call.  I’m just an average person with no high profile media position in the spotlight.  Appreciate and respect your position and power and take the high road.  Be a mature adult and help the set the right tone for our hurting country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Glenda-Berg/1337232548 Glenda Berg

    Liked your well thought-out and written response to Noonan, BHD – especially the part about her “affected and contrived mannerisms.”  (you left out her eyes closed sighing with disdain, but got most of them, by God)  What I really liked was that it wasn’t sexist, and it skewered her quite nicely just the same.  I, too, am ashamed of the people who unmercifully attack our President, as it dishonors the office and pulls the rest of the country down in the gutter along with them.  It doesn’t matter what one’s political stripes and/or socioeconomic status are — it is low-class, disrespectful and unwarranted for humanity’s sake.  I salute you.

  • dave

    While i find your critique of Peggy’s “contrived mannerisms” and “highly affected speech” to be absolutely spot on! I think one must not avoid the point of arguments:

    President Obama looks weak and ineffectual (my words not hers). 

    I’m not right wing, I’m not left wing (i use to be a died in the wool Dem), I’m Independent. 
    Now that thats out of the way, do you honestly believe President Obama has done everything he could for your side? (I  assume with trepidation that you’re on the left ideologically, correct me if I’m wrong.)

    If I were still a democrat, i’d be screaming about how this President has not done anything but play it cool and try to be above everything political. While playing it cool is not always a bad thing (in instances of war its good as opposed to cowboy mentalities of certain former presidents) but when it comes to the nuts and bolts of legislation he CAN’T keep doing that!

    The perception of his lack of legislative strategy is starting to show. While I know Lincoln is his go to guide for all things presidential, I think the point remains that he better start reading someone more like LBJ. I know he’s an intellectual (and that’s a badge of honor, i don’t treat that word as a pejorative) but he needs to realize that this isn’t a country of intellectuals anymore (especially in congress) he needs to know how to govern the weak minded. 

  • Puppet Man

    why

  • Puppet Man

    If anyone has any guts, they ought to ask Peggy Noonan about her friend, Puppet Man, from Wroxton College in England back in 1972. Then you would understand this matter more clearly. Do some digging!.

  • Puppet Man

    oh yesh, we all know about that puppet man story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

  • Puppet Man

    puppetmanpuppetmanpuppetmanpuppetman–forever

  • Puppet Man

    Who the hell is this Puppet Man?

  • Puppet Man and Peggy Noonan

    Puppet Man and Peggy Noonan. Oh, yes, now I see,

  • BigHotDogs

    No.  I totally agree with all that you say and many of the points of Noonan’s op-ed piece.  I probably just went off on a tear with my first post because what I strongly disagree with is the gutter level “name calling”.  It’s immature and doesn’t help guide the populace toward a more respectful place of debate.  Calling the President of the United States a “loser”?  Shows no respect for the office of the presidency. 

    Don’t get me wrong.  Oh-Bummer has been a huge disappointment to me as I’m sure to most in the country.  While, you are correct in assuming I’m more of a lefty, left of center – I actually consider myself more of an Independent.  I have voted for both Republican and Democratic presidents in the past.  In recent years though, I have leaned more left.  But really I consider myself to be a Libertarian – fiscally conservative, but socially liberal, with strong beliefs in the U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights, equality, justice, civil rights, freedom, liberty, separation of church and state, etc. 

    You are 100% right when you say “his lack of legislative strategy is starting to show”.  Actually, I take a stronger position on that and say – not starting to show – but has been the case all along and keeps getting confirmed with each new crisis or legislative debate.  He does not “lead”.  He does not seem like a “leader” to me.  He talks a good game, and obviously loves the “campaigning”.  I mean the recent announcement of a 3-day bus tour to talk to everyday folks about jobs.  C’mon.  Enough with the posturing and talking.  Work.  Figure out a job strategy and develop a policy.  Enough with town hall meetings already.  The facts, figures and statistics are all there.  Unemployment level, jobless claims, housing and foreclosure numbers, consumer credit limits, secondary education inflation, etc.  What good is ”wasting” 3 days on a bus tour to shed light on what we all already know??  Geez.  Roll up those sleaves and figure it out.  But he’s a talker and doesn’t seem to be much of a doer.  He wants to set the policy and goals, but doesn’t seem to know how to lead legislatively to get there.  Not effective at all.  When push comes to shove…. he always caves in, because he hasn’t been involved in the process.  He leaves it up to Congress to figure it out.  They need guidance, a big stick, a heavy hand, ego massaging and stroking, carrots and quid-pro-quo promises.  Interaction would be good.  It seems like they don’t interact enough.

    The debt ceiling process has been a huge debacle.  It’s embarassing and really shows the U.S. citizens and the rest of the world how dysfunctional, petty, immature, ineffective and lost our government leaders are. 

    But I wouldn’t call Obama a “loser” because “nobody loves him”.  He will be loved when he leads and does a good job.  He and Noonan need to be less concerned with who loves him and how much.  Who cares really?  But I still wouldn’t call the President of the United States a loser.  We can say he is ineffective (which he seems to be with each passing month).  We can say he is uninvolved (just a perception on my part, without details on his daily interactions).  We can say he is two-faced and says one thing and does another (but all politicians become guilty of this to some degree over time).  We can say he seems to love campaigning and talking more than leading, guiding, directing or doing (and I think most Americans would agree with that).  But to call him a “loser”??  It diminishes the office to 3rd grade fighting and vocabulary, and doesn’t help move the debate to a more thoughtful, thought-provoking level. 

    I can understand Noonan’s frustrations, but I can’t tell if calling him a “loser” is a result of frustration or gleeful grandstanding by a partisan opposition pundit.  Regardless, the power of the pen from media elites and journalists have consequences.  Words chosen have consequences.  It helps set a tone.  It shows the populace what is allowable and how one should conduct themselves.  The bloggoshpere is different with consumer-generated POVs, but a printed piece in the Wall Street Journal by a respected political journalist?  She’s in a leadership position in the media.  It tells the citizens of the U.S. and the world – we’re frustrated . . . . . let’s food fight and name call.  Why bother with the high-road when you can take the low-road, right Peggy?  It’s all just further confirmation that America is spiralling lower as we race to the bottom.  Her op-ed piece and comments help us to continue on that path.

  • Texrex96

    These strained defenses of Obama are getting desperate. His last of many lines in the sand was that he would only sign a “balanced” bill, with tax revenues. For those of us not still celebrating election night 2008, it was no surprise to see Obama cave and, astonishingly, sign a bill that protects the rich and sticks it to his base — 100% spending cuts. Even for Obama this capitulation was a big one. It is mind-boggling that this writer would have us believe Obama got exactly what he wanted, unless we explore the latest progressive grumblings: That Obama isn’t really a Democrat at all, given his dismal record of giving into the GOP on nearly every issue important to his base. I may not be comfortable going that far, but I’m quite comfortable in my belief that Peggy Noonan was absolutely right.

  • Jobs

    Wow, a column about a column. Maybe someone will write a column on your column about a column. No wonder America sucks.

  • Len

    Peggy Noonan writes bold and mean…In person she is shy, quiet, and holds back…it is not cool to be bold while writing and hold back when in person….This to me is truly a person that is a coward.

  • BO42012

    I used to have lots of respect for Peggy until I saw her calling Barack Obama a loser and no one likes him, She’s out of her mind, and has lost control. Please Peggy next time u decide to speak for the entire country… do us independents and democrats a favor.. Stuff ur mouth, tape it,then hang yourself with a rope.. Thanks

  • brushpile

    No , he’s a retard

  • Brushpile

    actually Nobama doesn’t know where to stand:  no plan, no clue, no idea, no integrity, ……..

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