Jon, I saw something recently purporting that Wikileaks had edited out the tape they disseminated several men with rifles and a RPG.

I would think that that would be relevant to this as well as your earlier piece here highligting Wiki’s video.

America hating little faggot..I’d hunt his ass down for free. What’s to gain from tearing down the military? Didn’t the last election do enough to crush their moral? What are the little fuckers like these guys going to do when all the good soldiers decide they don’t want to fight for them anymore? (Air Force, Marines, Navy, and Coast Guard..didn’t want to leave you out)

Grammie, are you speaking about this (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/07/military-raises-questions-credibility-leaked-iraq-shooting-video/)? While WL definitely used some editing techniques to sway the opinion of anyone who watched the first video (in that first piece, Colby took them to task for the title “Collateral Murder,” something Stephen Colbert actually criticized Assange of in their interview), I’m fairly sure the video, edited or not, was the real deal. As such, the cables (also coming from the same guy) are probably legit as well. If WikiLeaks indeed is editing the material or the way they present it, that’s all the more reason for the Pentagon to be concerned.
If you were talking about something else, let me know.

And Ranger, watch it with the slurs. You’re opinions are 100% valid but your complaints have nothing to do with Assange’s sexuality, whatever it may be.

Fine Jon, but just look at the guy..and “ass’ is in his last name. I should have said “not that there’s anything wrong with that”. I stand corrected..

Yes, that was it, thanks.

I wasn’t disputing the authenticity of the video they used but WL’s integrity, or more to the point lack of, based on their unethical editing. I think that that is pertinent to any discussion about them.

Not surprisingly I view him as just another “useful idiot” bordering on treasonous (not in the strict legal sense).

Grammie says:
“Jon, I saw something recently purporting that Wikileaks had edited out the tape they disseminated several men with rifles and a RPG.

I would think that that would be relevant to this as well as your earlier piece here highligting Wiki’s video.”

That is precisely what happened.

It was only time before this group released something that ACTUAL hurts the country. They have been releasing videos/documents that make us look stupid but nothing that actually puts the country at risk

Too many Americans see this group as one trying to get out any sins of our country when in reality the group is headed by people who simply hate America and want to see it destroyed

Hey “me1ranger,” Julian Assange is not from America and is under no obligation to love the US military. But I suggest you go “hunt him down” as you said you would. I’m sure police in Iceland or Australia or where ever he is won’t mind you bringing your firearm and killing a man just because you disagree with his website and the information they post.

In fact, if you travel overseas, you’ll find that his opinion of our armed forces is in fact the world majority opinion. Now that is not my opinion, because I am an American. However, I also am smart enough and honest enough to realize that our military is not perfect.

With over 100,000 (conservative estimate) innocent civilians killed since the Iraq war began, it’s not hard to see why he might hate America.

What wikileaks is doing is forcing our military to realize that the world is watching.

That might be a good thing if our armed forces, which already do a good job of policing itself, raises the bar even further to make sure that laws are followed and that we hold ourselves to the highest standards in the world so that we retain the moral high ground.

If we don’t, we are no better than China or Iran.

And censorship is always a bad thing. Let the information come out–good, or bad. And let the chips fall where they may.

Dude, the release of this “information” is a crime. That’s why people are going to jail. Don’t you get that, can’t you read? And I never said I would kill him, once again, can’t you read? “Bring my firearm” where did you get that from. I doubt I would need it with this little, sickly dweeb anyway. And as far as people overseas not liking our military, I wonder how they would have liked it if the whole world was speaking German and Japanese instead of their native tongues? You’re advocating for the release of classified documents, that’s treasonous. Do you realize that? Hip..you may be a cowardly, liberal hater, but I would still fight to protect you..

You said you’d “hunt his ass down for free.” Direct quote. People usually hunt with guns. Or maybe you meant a crossbow like your hero Ted Nugent. Or do you hunt with flowers that you gently toss at prey?

I don’t want you to “protect me” you sick fuck, but thanks.

I can protect myself from the zero armies ready to attack America (where are they and who are they, again?).

And no, it is not a crime to post a video.

It is crime to steal classified information. I am not advocating that and never have.

You need to brush up on what treason actually is….it’s a very difficult crime to prove, which is why it is seldom tried in US courts.

But to conservatards such as you, any Democrat or Liberal not down with killing brown people is a treasonous person, I suppose.

You are right that people in northern France and other parts of Europe did greatly appreciate the allied war efforts.

That was indeed a just war (one of the few the US has fought) and our men deserve great credit for beating back Hitler’s sick and twisted army in the 1940s.

As usual for some the issue is not the horror of seeing fellow human beings slaughtered with laughter, but hunting out the dirty dog who expose the potential war crime – and history relentlessly repeats.

Thanks Jim R. I completely agree.

It’s called war..nancy boy. How is it a slaughter to, during combat, shoot someone who’s carrying a rocket launcher? And our soldiers don’t bring their kids to battle with them, the ENEMY does! OH and while we’re at it..Could you pussies kindly ask your friends, our ENEMY, to start wearing uniforms like everyone else, so when we ‘slaughter’ them, losers like you won’t call them innocent civilians? History repeats..yeah like calling the returning Viet Nam Vets baby-killers…And Hip, you hate violence so much, right? Why is the word “SHOOT” at the beginning of all your posts then..moron? Help..mediaite..I’m getting kinda scared here. This guy keeps talking about shooting people everytime he posts here..he must be bannished! Ya like that..peacenik?

Watch the fucking video, retard. Multiple people were gunned down. Most of them were unarmed.

The children were in the car of not the “enemy” but passerbys who were trying to save the dying Reuters photographer. They live in Bagdahd. That is their home. They have their kids with them. Not everyone can afford a babysitter, especially when your country has been ripped apart by war.

The photographer had no weapon.

The men in the car displayed no weapon and showed no demonstrable hostility to the helicopter pilots.

They never even looked at the helicopter.

They were too busy trying to save the dying man on the street.

If you watch the un edited video it will show you that after the initial strike, which looked bad enough. Unfortunately there was a second strike at a clearly un armed and wounded man, while un armed people were trying to help him. It is a terrible and tragic thing to see. And war is messy and filled with horror on all sides. This is not about pointing fingers at soldiers who are at war, this is about looking at the reality of war. The United States needs to get out of the middle east, we need to bring home these men and women who are being put in a position to do something that will never achieve anything except death. I have covered a number of wars, and many of the atrocities in Iraq. This video was heartbreaking. Manning did the right thing, IF he did in fact release it. The United States officials should have released it themselves in an attempt to show the truth, that accidents happen. Two reuters men were killed, and reuters had been trying to get this video for two years. If the people are going to vote on whether or not we go into a county and wage war, they need to be informed about what that means in real terms. It means that young people are killing each other, brutally, and in confused and chaotic situations. Huge mistakes will be made over and over again– and this particular conflict will never be settled by U.S. occupation in the Middle East. I have been there and this is not a culture that we are familiar with. President Obama stated that his “strategy” in Afghanistan was that the people of that country would Ally themselves with the U.S. military. That is the most idiotic thing that I have ever heard in my life. Bring those men and women home now and stop putting them in positions like the one shown in that tragic video. Write to President Obama and tell him to get the U.S. troops out of the Middle East and to bring home Bradley Manning– where he is being held in isolation in Kuwait. If he is charged, address it on U.S. soil. Here is a link to contact President Obama: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact