Fact: Hey look forward to the ongoing therapy and daily Dr Question and answer periods on Weiner as he gets the help and gets to maintain his job. Does his party buy him out with a good severence package?

“Rep. Anthony Weiner can leave rehab now”

Weiner’s in rehab? For what, being an a-hole?

It’s somebody’s fault Rush continues to live, and I’d like to have a sitdown lunch with that somebody.

Rush also pointed out that Shipman is not a fan of testosterone based on who she married ( Jay Carney ) .

“It’s all because liberal women are so bossy and ugly.” Thanks, Rush – once again you finally agree with me !!!
Those familiar with my comments will remember this classic to enjoy again:

Have you ever wondered why lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist women are among the ugliest creatures on Earth? Much like the horribly warped ideology they pursue, lunatic-left women result from mutations from the rules of natural selection, which would tend to weed out the uggos. Examples of the failure of natural selection for lunatic-left women are abundant: michelle “marie antoinette” obozo, rosie odonnell, sonia sotomayor, eleanor roosevelt, wasserman schultz, whoopi goldberg, christina romer, janet napolitano, joy behar, corrine brown, claire mccaskill, joanne kloppenburg, janeane garofalo, maxine waters, elena kagan, oprah, rachel maddow, regina benjamin, etc, This suggests that, for this sub-set of the human species, the mutations from natural selection have gotten out of sync with nature and are completely out of control, much like the lunatic-left’s approach to spending taxpayer money.

On the positive side, one should note that often in nature extreme ugliness is a warning to others to avoid, at all costs, any contact or association with such creatures. This seems especially good advice concerning the sub-species known as lunatic-left d-cRAT socialist women.

Publius219 said:
It’s somebody’s fault Rush continues to live, and I’d like to have a sitdown lunch with that somebody.

Why not use your stock phrase , jackass ?
” Die ,Rush, die ” .

You are very sick .

Big Eddie said:
Why not use your stock phrase , jackass ?
” Die ,Rush, die ” .

You are very sick .

Oh shut up, he’s calling liberal women disgusting, Rush can go sit on a landmine for all I care.

“Katie Couric only has a job at ABC because she’s a woman.’

That’s part of it. The other part is that she is liberal, which is why her dismal performance at CBS News is ignored.

Why do they cheat?

Because they can. Powerful men have always used their position, money, prestige, etc., to chase after the eternal quarry.

About a million years ago there was a stunning red-headed actress, Jill St. John. She was gorgeous and brilliant (a Mensa member) but who did she date?

Lumpy and ungainly Henry Kissinger. When asked about how such a stunning and accomplished woman would be on his arm he replied that power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.

Sort of explains the “why” part, doesn’t it?

Jon: “Apparently, as much as Limbaugh hates Democratic politicians, he hates uppity ladies more.”

This is where leftists and conservatives both make the same mistakes over and over. Leftists hate their political adversaries, and assume that it works both ways. Conservatives don’t understand that hatred is what drives progressivism, and they try to make nice, not realizing what a powerful force hatred is. This is why progressivism, while a minority philosophy, has strategically moved forward quite successfully until just recently. When the leftists thought they had a mandate, they exposed themselves, and are now rejected, big time.

Rush at his media-tweaking best…

Publius219 said:
It’s somebody’s fault Rush continues to live, and I’d like to have a sitdown lunch with that somebody.

are Liberal death threats and calls for murder accepted on Mediaite comment threads?

skoorbekim said:
are Liberal death threats and calls for murder accepted on Mediaite comment threads?

As long as they want a conservative dead, it’s okay. Limbaugh isn’t allowed to comment on the attitude and looks of liberal women, (although we all know he’s just being provocative for the sake of humor) but in turn, it’s okay to wish him dead for the jokes he tells. This is what I was talking about in my above comment, where I pointed out that the left is driven by hatred.

Plubius the Kos Kid has called for murder before…
curious as to the Mediaite threshold for bloodlust…

Poor Jon, you sound like someone peed in your lemonade this morning.

I still don’t think Jon Bershad ‘gets” Limbaugh yet. Eventually he’ll pick up on when Rush is being serious and not. It’s kind of like first listening to the sports radio hotst Jim Rome. It takes a while to get used to.

Publius219 said:
It’s somebody’s fault Rush continues to live, and I’d like to have a sitdown lunch with that somebody.

Publius, your problem isn’t that you’re WRONG, which you are.
Your problem is that you take yourself seriously, which you are not.
You are only a well “indoctrinated” person, perhaps having much in common with the men Rush was discussing in his little discourse.

Why else are you here instead of at the Daily Kos? I’ll bet my supper you seek out approval at some “liberals only” website, just like Bill C. seeks what he thinks is “real sex” in the closet at the Arkansas Governor’s mansion and later at the Oval Office.

I didn’t know who Shipman’s husband was until Rush pointed it out… explains a lot…

Has anyone ever watched the original “Bedazzled” movie with Dudley Moore and Peter Cook?

Isn’t that movie exactly what has happened to Weiner?

In Weiner you have someone who obviously didn’t do too well with girls in his youth, who stumbles upon a way to get female attention…by acting like a hyperpartisan, spastic jerk on the House floor and on cable news. Certain young, leftist women found his histrionics to be irresistible and would immediately seek Weiner out on social media sites.

Weiner then begins sexting these young women up, scoring all the high school aged girls he couldn’t get in his youth, then along comes Peter Cook as the Devil to take it all away! lol

Limbaugh’s predictable and embarrassing bravado is I suppose an attempt to assure us, or rather himself that he is a real man. He dodged the draft when he had an opportunity to serve, has several failed marriages (has some problems satisfying women or perhaps he really isn’t interested) and of course there are the trips with another’s Viagra to the DR. Sounds like when it comes to real men, Rush is your guy.

Only in Amerika would people be listening to this douchebag talk about personal failures of others. He has too many skeletons. He should keep his mouth shut!

lol, this is what happened to Weiner

DonnySilver said:
Anything for shock value with this guy.

You’re right, except the only people shocked are leftists who never actually listen to the show. The only time they hear anything Limbaugh says in when Mediaite or Media Matters cherry pick his show. The rest of his audience understand his style of humor and the hilarious reactions of those who do not. Tweaked again!

Sam M. said:
Rush is your guy

It sounds like Rush described you to a Tee!

Looks like Rush has mined some gold here.

skoorbekim said:
Publius219 said:
It’s somebody’s fault Rush continues to live, and I’d like to have a sitdown lunch with that somebody.

are Liberal death threats and calls for murder accepted on Mediaite comment threads?

Not only accepted but encouraged…just don’t think that the same rules apply both ways!!

As usual, Rush is Spot-On!

Colorado_Conservative said:
Not only accepted but encouraged…just don’t think that the same rules apply both ways!!

Here’s how the “game” is played by liberals. They make the rules on the fly, then apply them strictly to the right. When called out on their hypocrisy, the rules must immediately be rewritten to fit the left’s narrative. For example, Jared Loughner goes crazy. The left immediately say there can be no “uncivil or violent rhetoric” in politics. They proceed to go straight after Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh, blaming them for the shootings and calling for a new age of civility. Once Loughner is actually proven to be a liberal, the new civility immediately goes out the window, and the screaming heads at MSNBC and NPR go right back to their vicious and hateful (and many times violent) attacks on conservatives.

I don’t know what you’re shrieking about, Jon, when all Limbaugh did was iterate PRECISELY the conclusions of Amanpour’s panel.

Those FEMALES EXPRESSLY stated that men bought “ego”, “libido”, and “testosterone” to the table in the way that females do not.

I don’t know how much more they could have claim nature over nurture than by invoking the heart break of testosterone poisoning…

Again, where was your outrage then?

If Limbaugh, in his exaggerated manner, takes them at their word and then argues that these women can’t both simultaneously suggest that men are naturally immoral and scandal prone AND argue that this behavior is an aberration, then you can thank the female purveyors of such an argument in the first place!

Limbaugh goes on to claim that if this is so, then we can blame the influence of liberal women on Weiner’s furtive, masturbatory, narcissistic forays into Caped Crusader Super Hero, rather than a head-on encounter with a real live woman, who may have helped him feel like man.

In light of the Armanpour discussion yesterday on the intrinsic “morality” of women, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if liberal men weren’t in much need of that sort of reassurance.

(Limbaugh also makes a salient argument that these women can’t both argue that individual morality has no place in politics, AND then insist that things run better with women because of their inherently moral nature.)

skoorbekim said:
are Liberal death threats and calls for murder accepted on Mediaite comment threads?

Yeesh. who did that?

Sam M. said:
Limbaugh’s predictable and embarrassing bravado is I suppose an attempt to assure us, or rather himself that he is a real man. He dodged the draft when he had an opportunity to serve, has several failed marriages (has some problems satisfying women or perhaps he really isn’t interested) and of course there are the trips with another’s Viagra to the DR. Sounds like when it comes to real men, Rush is your guy.

HehHehHeh

Alinsky Alert! It ain’t working for ya!

TrollJuice said:
Only in Amerika would people be listening to this douchebag talk about personal failures of others. He has too many skeletons. He should keep his mouth shut!

Knowing he won’t take your advice! LoL

BatBoy said:
It sounds like Rush described you to a Tee!

You one of Limbaugh’s boys?

As much as I personally don’t like Rush, I have to admit he makes some good points..

Rush Limbaugh: It’s Liberal Women’s Fault Weiner Cheated

Wait a second, did weiner cheat? He sat in front of a computer screen and masterbated. How does that constitute “cheating”, as that word is normally associated with philandering men, not those thinking about philandering, but those that put their thingie in the other thingie, one way or another.

if people keep playing into these politcal games then we are always going to have a political divide and nothing will ever get done. All i see happening is America falling off the tall pedestal we were once standing on. If we are arguing about “liberal” women at fault for something or conservative women or even men for that matter then we flat out suck. How about everyone has an independent mind, a different way of growing up, different experiences, it does not matter your political beliefs. Why are we categorizing political parties as being a fault to something.How about the individuals alone take responsibilities for their actions. I dont care if there democrat, republican, male, female, black,white,hispanic,asian,islander whatevers. Republicans will 99% of the time defend their party just like democrats will defend theirs but when the other side does something, WOW looks at the debates we have about it. We will ALMOST NEVER have any honest debate in this country when people will not attack their own side like they do the other. Does anyone actually believe that Rush or anyone else like him believe what they actually do on the air, i mean these people get paid to talk crap about the other side, these politicians have an agenda, and on that agenda we the damn people come LAST, its party first, get re-elected, get more money even if the people get screwed in the process. Democrats and Republicans are both at fault lets get real people they are pretty much both the same with different names. And i know im jumping all over the place with this but i just wish things would change politically.

valkyrie101 said:
Wait a second, did weiner cheat? He sat in front of a computer screen and masterbated. How does that constitute “cheating”, as that word is normally associated with philandering men, not those thinking about philandering, but those that put their thingie in the other thingie, one way or another.

And here you recited Biblical scripture just today in defense of your own wonderful tolerance toward Rep. Weiner.

Perhaps now you could helpfully… remember Christ’s words about adultery in thought as well as action.

Perhaps too, you can ask yourself why Weiner himself characterized his behavior as being essentially dishonest and disloyal to his wife.

For centuries, it was the sexuality of women which has been castigated (especially by the Church). They were seductive, instruments of Devil and had to cover their bodies : if not, they ended up as whores if they were poor, nuns in some covents if they were from a upper-class family.

Now it is the sexuality of men. Men can’t be men anymore. And this social super-ego is both due to the alliance of feminists on the left, and rigourous religious right on the other side.

Its not splitting hairs to demand a distinction between what weiner did in privacy, or for that matter what any married man does in privacy, involving sexual fantasy, in front of a computer screen, and men who do it for real, illegitimate kids and all. There is a big difference between weiner’s sin, and, for example, Vitter or Spitzer’s sins.

winning said:
Jon: “Apparently, as much as Limbaugh hates Democratic politicians, he hates uppity ladies more.”

This is where leftists and conservatives both make the same mistakes over and over. Leftists hate their political adversaries, and assume that it works both ways. Conservatives don’t understand that hatred is what drives progressivism, and they try to make nice, not realizing what a powerful force hatred is. This is why progressivism, while a minority philosophy, has strategically moved forward quite successfully until just recently. When the leftists thought they had a mandate, they exposed themselves, and are now rejected, big time.

Exactly, and it is an important lesson to learn; It never pays to give a progressive an even break.

Be a Good guy, but to hell with trying to be ‘nice’ to a progressive…they take is as a sign of weakness, not civility.

Or of course edward’s sins.

What’s Vitter, Ensign, Foley,Craig, Sanford’s excuse then, Plush?

Con Women must be REALLY UGLY AND ANGRY

How many weeks of material did he do on those idiots?

TYPICAL CON HYPOCRISY

Fleur Delacour said:
For centuries, it was the sexuality of women which has been castigated (especially by the Church). They were seductive, instruments of Devil and had to cover their bodies : if not, they ended up as whores if they were poor, nuns in some covents if they were from a upper-class family.

I’m not sure how it follows that in bygone times if women didn’t cover up their bodies they ended up either whores or nuns, especially given some of the low cut and waist cinching fashions of past centuries….but I’m fairly certain that in Christianity men were and are adjured to cover up their junk too.

valkyrie101 said:
ts not splitting hairs to demand a distinction between what weiner did in privacy, or for that matter what any married man does in privacy, involving sexual fantasy, in front of a computer screen, and men who do it for real, illegitimate kids and all. There is a big difference between weiner’s sin, and, for example, Vitter or Spitzer’s sins.

Well, there may be a difference in degree, but not in kind.

I’m fairly certain that most women would feel their husbands had been fundamentally unfaithful by engaging in Weiner sex….

Is Anthony Weiner going to hang in there? Check out “A Day in the Life of Anthony Weiner” on The Loop Now.com. It’s all fantasy, because the Congressman likes it that way.
theloopnow.com/?p=8260

Cecelia said:
Perhaps now you could helpfully… remember Christ’s words about adultery in thought as well as action.

I always thought of that quote as somewhat of a derision to those living under the mosaic law, but certainly there is no such rule within the grace of the risen Christ. But OK, I will accept your view on that. Does that mean that if we think of punching an unruly man at the ball game, we are batterers, too.

Cecelia said:
Well, there may be a difference in degree, but not in kind. I’m fairly certain that most women would feel their husbands had been fundamentally unfaithful by engaging in Weiner sex….

I doubt that. Not with something like 50% of all married people having sex out of wedlock. Wives hate that. Someone who keeps his freak to himself is a relatively good catch.

Give Rush credir for jobs created in the Laundry/Dry Cleaning Industry!
He can make a lib crap his pants in a New York Minute!!

skoorbekim said:
are Liberal death threats and calls for murder accepted on Mediaite comment threads?

Apparently so. And Rush’s comments are so much more offensive than Fat Ed Schultz calling L Ingraham a slut.

valkyrie101 said:
I always thought of that quote as somewhat of a derision to those living under the mosaic law, but certainly there is no such rule within the grace of the risen Christ. But OK, I will accept your view on that. Does that mean that if we think of punching an unruly man at the ball game, we are batterers, too.

Of course it does.

WITHOUT such a “view”, our entire need of grace would boil down to nothing more than an individual’s penchant for being in the “wrong” place at the right time… or whether or not we were quadriplegic…

brownsound said:
Apparently so. And Rush’s comments are so much more offensive than Fat Ed Schultz calling L Ingraham a slut.

They’re ever so much more intellectually provocative.

When it comes to partisan politics, many people feign ignorance of the difference.

valkyrie101 said:
I doubt that. Not with something like 50% of all married people having sex out of wedlock. Wives hate that. Someone who keeps his freak to himself is a relatively good catch.

Oh, sure… Violence is up too, but I doubt anyone could extrapolate THAT into an argument for the advantages of kneecapping over strangling.

Cecelia said:
Of course it does. WITHOUT such a “view”, our entire need of grace would boil down to nothing more than an individual’s penchant for being in the “wrong” place at the right time… or whether or not we were quadriplegic…

So sin has nothing to do with what you do, only what you think?

valkyrie101 said:
So sin has nothing to do with what you do, only what you think?

No. Sin has everything to do with BOTH.

valkyrie101 said:
Rush Limbaugh: It’s Liberal Women’s Fault Weiner Cheated

Wait a second, did weiner cheat? He sat in front of a computer screen and masterbated. How does that constitute “cheating”, as that word is normally associated with philandering men, not those thinking about philandering, but those that put their thingie in the other thingie, one way or another.

I find all this parsing and legal beagle sophistry comical, entirely dishonest, and a little sad.

These are not difficult questions, and the behavior and circumstances is easily understood by anyone smart enough to draw breath. To those without an ax to grind, or slime-ball to defend, the definition of infidelity or cheating only requires a single sentence. You see, It is a function of intimacy and trust betrayed, not nudity or the exchange of bodily fluids.

‘Cheating’ is to do of anything, with anyone, you would Not do with your Wife or Husband in the room.

Think on that for a moment, and stop with the verbal and mental gymnastics. It is unbecoming and embarrassing of anyone past puberty.

Does anyone on this site ever listen to the Limbaugh clips with any sense of irony or satire? I mean ever? If this guy pisses you off, I know a bus driver named Ralph Kramden who frequently threatens to punch his wife to the moon. Somebody really needs to address that violent misogynist.

GoneFishing said:
I find all this parsing and legal beagle sophistry comical, entirely dishonest, and a little sad.

I just find it self-serving and just his latest attempt to throw the vestal virgins of decency, rationality,, and integrity into the volcano in order to appease the god of health care.

Same shit, different day.

Cecelia said:
Oh, sure… Violence is up too, but I doubt anyone could extrapolate THAT into an argument for the advantages of kneecapping over strangling.

Violence is not up, it is down. Perhaps all those screems about first person shooter games being evil and would lead to violence are not true. But I guarantee you that thinking about shooting someone is not the same thing as shooting someone.

I didn’t listen to Rush today, but I’m sure that after the thrice-married sex tourist finished his disquisition on healthy relationships, he then proceeded to hold forth on weight loss techniques. What a boob, er, boobs.

Cecelia said:
No. Sin has everything to do with BOTH.

What do you think? A man had two sons; he went to the first and said, “Son, go and work in the vineyard today.” He answered, “I will not”; but later he changed his mind and went. The father went to the second and said the same; and he answered, “I go, sir”; but he did not go. Which of the two did the will of his father?’
Matt. 21:28

Its what you do that counts, not what you promise to do and don’t.

who’s fault is it that this guy has had 4 wives?

You people talking about the death threats being okay on Mediaite are forgetting the rules.

See, leftists are allowed to make death threats, they are allowed to sleep around, they are allowed to post nude pics of themselves to the world, they are allowed to kill people while drinking and driving, they are allowed to perjure themselves, they are allowed almost anything, etc.

See, it is the Saul Alinsky method. Rule # 4
“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

There you have it. Rules for radicals, a book dedicated to Lucifer, the hero of the left.

If Rush’s misogynist attitude gets into the bedroom he may have to start looking for wife # 5

So LIBERAL WOMEN took the Limpo pig to the Dominican Republic?

Yoda002 said:
If Rush’s misogynist attitude gets into the bedroom he may have to start looking for wife # 5

AWWWW !

Skippy said:
So LIBERAL WOMEN took the Limpo pig to the Dominican Republic?

AWWWWW !!

Just my Opinion said:
AWWWW !

Just my Opinion said:
AWWWWW !!

Well put.
Let me know if you can’t get to the phone,I’ll call 911 for ya.

DavidKramer said:
You people talking about the death threats being okay on Mediaite are forgetting the rules.

See, leftists are allowed to make death threats, they are allowed to sleep around, they are allowed to post nude pics of themselves to the world, they are allowed to kill people while drinking and driving, they are allowed to perjure themselves, they are allowed almost anything, etc.

See, it is the Saul Alinsky method. Rule # 4
“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

There you have it. Rules for radicals, a book dedicated to Lucifer, the hero of the left.

More pablum. Nothing here.

Rush is usually right but I think he doesn’t really believe this. This is one of the dumbest things he has ever said. Anyway, a guy like Weiner, it was a lack of self discipline, narcissism, and perhaps some slight mental problems.

According to Rush: all racecar drivers and auto mechanics are Cons

Interesting…

Part of the genius of Rush Limbaugh is that he can yank the liberal chain and the reactions are so predictable.

GoneFishing said:
‘Cheating’ is to do of anything, with anyone, you would Not do with your Wife or Husband in the room.

If you say so. Usually it is presumed to include physical penetration. But you suggest that it constitutues cheating on your wife to masturbate on the road in your room to a cinemax flick? So heck, if that’s cheating a person may as well just go to the brothel, like Vitter.

Cecelia said:
I just find it self-serving and just his latest attempt to throw the vestal virgins of decency, rationality,, and integrity into the volcano in order to appease the god of health care. Same shit, different day.

“Vestal virgins of decency.” I loved that, nice. :-)

GoneFishing said:
I find all this parsing and legal beagle sophistry comical, entirely dishonest, and a little sad.

What’s wrong with parsing, I love to parse. What does it mean, anyway?

And pretty, ding-bat conservative women go for uneducated, fat junkie millionaires … right Rush?

I enjoy reading this blog, however, I’m highly offended with the MSNBC ‘stalking’ pop-up ads. It’s creepy to have all those MSNBC mugs popping up every time I log-on. Is Mediaite in partnership with MSNBC or what? Is there a way to block those? Please tell me if there is. LOL.

xraex413 said:
if people keep playing into these politcal games then we are always going to have a political divide and nothing will ever get done. All i see happening is America falling off the tall pedestal we were once standing on. If we are arguing about “liberal” women at fault for something or conservative women or even men for that matter then we flat out suck. How about everyone has an independent mind, a different way of growing up, different experiences, it does not matter your political beliefs. Why are we categorizing political parties as being a fault to something.How about the individuals alone take responsibilities for their actions. I dont care if there democrat, republican, male, female, black,white,hispanic,asian,islander whatevers. Republicans will 99% of the time defend their party just like democrats will defend theirs but when the other side does something, WOW looks at the debates we have about it. We will ALMOST NEVER have any honest debate in this country when people will not attack their own side like they do the other. Does anyone actually believe that Rush or anyone else like him believe what they actually do on the air, i mean these people get paid to talk crap about the other side, these politicians have an agenda, and on that agenda we the damn people come LAST, its party first, get re-elected, get more money even if the people get screwed in the process. Democrats and Republicans are both at fault lets get real people they are pretty much both the same with different names. And i know im jumping all over the place with this but i just wish things would change politically.

xraex413, I am an independent thinking Democrat and let me tell you that in this discussion you’re an island of sanity and logic in a putrid sea of partisanship.

I weep for my country.

newzmaker said:
I enjoy reading this blog, however, I’m highly offended with the MSNBC ’stalking’ pop-up ads. It’s creepy to have all those MSNBC mugs popping up every time I log-on. Is Mediaite in partnership with MSNBC or what? Is there a way to block those? Please tell me if there is. LOL.

This is a LLC web site. They need to pay the bills like anyone else. I thought conservatives supported free enterprise and capitalism?

How then does Limbaugh explain his love for Dominican prostitutes? What a hypocrite!

This post is hard to believe…

No way does Jon Bershad have a girlfriend.

Or does being “publicity intern” at Mediaite have more pull with the ladies than we realize?

Rush Limbaugh is a complicated guy. He is friends with Elton John and had Elton preform at his wedding. Social conservatives were livid.

Personally I will take Rush the band including Getty Lee over Rush the radio personality any day.

Nature Freak said:
This is a LLC web site. They need to pay the bills like anyone else. I thought conservatives supported free enterprise and capitalism?

Conservative? I’m an American who despises the far left. That’s all.

BarneyFranken said:
This post is hard to believe…

No way does Jon Bershad have a girlfriend.

Or does being “publicity intern” at Mediaite have more pull with the ladies than we realize?

Panties in a bunch again Barn?

It’s just a theory I have, but every time Rush turns into a blowtard like this, I wonder if his ratings are down and he’s poking them with this crap. No matter WHAT comes out of that man’s mouth, it is ALL about Rush, Inc.

ChickaBOOMer: Obama Weighs In On Weiner
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2011/06/obama-weighs-in-on-weiner.html

valkyrie101 said:
Violence is not up, it is down. Perhaps all those screems about first person shooter games being evil and would lead to violence are not true. But I guarantee you that thinking about shooting someone is not the same thing as shooting someone.

Within a religious context it most certainly is, and THAT context is the one I mentioned and the one to which you initially responded by attempting to minimize it.

You’re still doing that. I suggest you try to explain to the most hardened atheist how the God who made both the body and the mind, could at the same time, completely divorce thought and intent from action. That atheist would laugh at you too. That’s not a scriptural concept for a good reason. It makes no biological or psychological sense. It’s NONsense..

The silliest part of your crap here is the way you defend someone beyond what THEY have to say for themselves!

Rep. Weiner has no trouble understanding that he betrayed a woman BECAUSE they had taken marriage vows together. YOU might, but HE didn’t.

Weiner had no difficulty understanding that his proclivity toward this sort of shared sexual fantasy was a threat to a real life relationship, which is why he confessed his past actions to his wife BEFORE they married. YOU may not agree. HE would.

GOOD for HIM!

YOU, I’m not so sure about. In the process of attempting to defend Weiner, you’ve shown yourself to be less the man than he is.

valkyrie101 said:
Its what you do that counts, not what you promise to do and don’t.

So now you’re arguing that the woman on the other end of Weiner’s exchanges was essentially the same thing as his keyboard. That Weiner essentially engaged in no action whatsoever, not even typing, let alone thinking, I suppose…

I guess phone communication is as divorced from humanity as the current flowing through the wires…. The moving FDR radio address as removed from that president and from reality as a radio play…or a conversation with a recording….

Right. Try selling THAT NONsense to blog owners, blog monitors, and people who bother to engage other people across any communication medium that there is.

xraex413 said:
if people keep playing into these politcal games then we are always going to have a political divide and nothing will ever get done. All i see happening is America falling off the tall pedestal we were once standing on. If we are arguing about “liberal” women at fault for something or conservative women or even men for that matter then we flat out suck. How about everyone has an independent mind, a different way of growing up, different experiences, it does not matter your political beliefs. Why are we categorizing political parties as being a fault to something.How about the individuals alone take responsibilities for their actions. I dont care if there democrat, republican, male, female, black,white,hispanic,asian,islander whatevers. Republicans will 99% of the time defend their party just like democrats will defend theirs but when the other side does something, WOW looks at the debates we have about it. We will ALMOST NEVER have any honest debate in this country when people will not attack their own side like they do the other. Does anyone actually believe that Rush or anyone else like him believe what they actually do on the air, i mean these people get paid to talk crap about the other side, these politicians have an agenda, and on that agenda we the damn people come LAST, its party first, get re-elected, get more money even if the people get screwed in the process. Democrats and Republicans are both at fault lets get real people they are pretty much both the same with different names. And i know im jumping all over the place with this but i just wish things would change politically.

Nature Freak said:
xraex413, I am an independent thinking Democrat and let me tell you that in this discussion you’re an island of sanity and logic in a putrid sea of partisanship.

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Rush Limbaugh defining for me what a “real man” is? I think I’ll take a pass on that bit of wisdom, thank you.

Limbaugh actually gets paid for this garbage?

xraex413 said:
if people keep playing into these politcal games then we are always going to have a political divide and nothing will ever get done. All i see happening is America falling off the tall pedestal we were once standing on. If we are arguing about “liberal” women at fault for something or conservative women or even men for that matter then we flat out suck. How about everyone has an independent mind, a different way of growing up, different experiences, it does not matter your political beliefs. Why are we categorizing political parties as being a fault to something.How about the individuals alone take responsibilities for their actions. I dont care if there democrat, republican, male, female, black,white,hispanic,asian,islander whatevers. Republicans will 99% of the time defend their party just like democrats will defend theirs but when the other side does something, WOW looks at the debates we have about it. We will ALMOST NEVER have any honest debate in this country when people will not attack their own side like they do the other. Does anyone actually believe that Rush or anyone else like him believe what they actually do on the air, i mean these people get paid to talk crap about the other side, these politicians have an agenda, and on that agenda we the damn people come LAST, its party first, get re-elected, get more money even if the people get screwed in the process. Democrats and Republicans are both at fault lets get real people they are pretty much both the same with different names. And i know im jumping all over the place with this but i just wish things would change politically.

While I agree with some of what you said, conservatives have been ceding ground to the leftist wish lists for 80 plus years. Meeting in middle always means moving further away from the founding principles because the left continues to tack farther and farther left, bringing the “middle” farther to the left in the process. Why is it that Democrats are allowed to continually move harder leftward and conservatives are told they have to compromise? To paraphrase Reagan, Americans need a clear choice. “Moderate” Republicans are just democrat-lite and offer no real alternative. See John McCain. It’s time for conservatives to take a stand, give no quarter and take back the ground that’s been lost over the last 80 years. That is going to mean hardened stances, divisive debates and courage in the face of fire from the MSM, the liberal minority and big government Republicans.

Cecelia said:
YOU, I’m not so sure about. In the process of attempting to defend Weiner, you’ve shown yourself to be less the man than he is.

Whoa baby, I’ll consider that a badge of honor, thanks, since weiner was in no position to defend himself from the myriad of hypocrites casting stones. ^^

Cecelia said:
So now you’re arguing that the woman on the other end of Weiner’s exchanges was essentially the same thing as his keyboard. That Weiner essentially engaged in no action whatsoever, not even typing, let alone thinking, I suppose…

Obviously since you believe in freedom then you are good with consenting adults engaging in sexting or sexy talk, right, including phone sex, sending naked photos, whatever, right? And your argument is that some of weiner’s targets were unwilling victims? Is that correct? Which ones, I was not aware that any unwilling people received offending photos.

Cecelia said:
I guess phone communication is as divorced from humanity as the current flowing through the wires…. The moving FDR radio address as removed from that president and from reality as a radio play…or a conversation with a recording….

It is simply silly to morally equate talking about sex while masturbating with intercourse.

To: My Chum VALKYRIE101

Nice to see you.

“Judge not, lest ye be judged”. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone”. Philosophy and/or wisdom can be found in many places, even mistakes and failure.

Anthony Wiener was/is a vocal and self assured Congressman, whose behavior, MOST people would consider unsavory. (and possibly illegal)

That is the difference; what separates Wiener from the Citizens. WE, you and I are “most people” and he is a sitting Congressman! Fortunately, there are enough American’s left, who will hold our elected officials to higher standards.

Even standards we do not apply to ourselves. That is the bargain when one is elected to Congress.

TOMORROW IS FLAG DAY, FLY YOUR FLAG. YOU DO HAVE A FLAG, DON’T YOU?

By the way VALKYRIE,

Did you finish my explanation about “neutral principle”, and the basis on which laws are/should be made?

brownsound said:
While I agree with some of what you said, conservatives have been ceding ground to the leftist wish lists for 80 plus years. Meeting in middle always means moving further away from the founding principles because the left continues to tack farther and farther left

Well done BROWNSOUND, my compliments.

purveyor said:
To: My Chum VALKYRIE101 Nice to see you. “Judge not, lest ye be judged”. Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone”. Philosophy and/or wisdom can be found in many places, even mistakes and failure. Anthony Wiener was/is a vocal and self assured Congressman, whose behavior, MOST people would consider unsavory. (and possibly illegal) That is the difference; what separates Wiener from the Citizens. WE, you and I are “most people” and he is a sitting Congressman! Fortunately, there are enough American’s left, who will hold our elected officials to higher standards. Even standards we do not apply to ourselves. That is the bargain when one is elected to Congress. TOMORROW IS FLAG DAY, FLY YOUR FLAG. YOU DO HAVE A FLAG, DON’T YOU?

It is up to weiner’s constituents to decide his fate, or in the case of an impreachable offense, the Congress, not third parties like us or the talking heads. To force his resignation is to undermine the constitutional process.

valkyrie101 said:
It is up to weiner’s constituents to decide his fate, or in the case of an impreachable offense, the Congress, not third parties like us or the talking heads. To force his resignation is to undermine the constitutional process.

but the point val, nobody can force him to resign, but people do have opinions

For what it’s worth, Limbaugh’s struggle with drug addiction was the result of a very libertarian batch of OxyContin.

VALKYRIE,

Believe it or not, I’ve taken a liking for you. You seem earnest and willing to engage.

Have you ever read John Stuart Mill, “On Liberty”? (early to mid 1800s) As you might suppose, Mill was a Libertarian. (also, a student of Jeremy Bentham, Utilitarianism)

Anyway, Mill taught that society should be wary of too many laws. Rather, that society and the aspersions, castigation, shunning even informal banishment should be the method used to contain or punish those who stray from folkways and mores of society.

That codified Laws and Punishment were to be left to the serious crimes, such as theft and crimes on the person.

I think we have too many laws and I think Mill would agree: Cigarettes, seat belts, motorcycle helmets, various food and drugs… Mill might have said that enough disapproving glares would be the best route for making one put out a cigarette. NOT a law!

Moreover, I dislike Wiener and I believe his multiple faux pas, is such that he should resign. Society should and will punish the man through disapproval and embarrassment. Codified Law and punishment should not. Hence, in this case, it appears we agree.

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

catfishjuggling said:

For what it’s worth, Limbaugh’s struggle with drug addiction was the result of a very libertarian batch of OxyContin.

I never liked you CATFISH!! LOL

Thats very funny, well done

One more thing VALKYRIE:

I’d stay away from CECELIA. She even scares me! LOL

Big news. The fat pig went oink oink on the radio.

catfishjuggling said:
For what it’s worth, Limbaugh’s struggle with drug addiction was the result of a very libertarian batch of OxyContin.

For enough money, Limbaugh would be singing the praises of Fidel Castro and Che Guevara.
He is a highered hand. There is a reason he is friends with Elton John.

purveyor said:
One more thing VALKYRIE:

I’d stay away from CECELIA. She even scares me! LOL

I am new to this site and she scares this “Nature Freak.”
I judge people by this:
Can you agree to disagree and disregard “the war” for awhile and have a real conversation?
If Palin did this with me I could even become friends with her.
Many if not most people on this website are pathologically incapable of doing so.
This is one reason I believe dark days are headed towards America.

You can be sure not many women would cheat with gross bloated old Rush. LOL

I think Rush has conveniently overlooked Bret Favre, Tiger Woods, Arnold, Vitter, Newt and Dick Morris … need I say more (i.e., name others).

valkyrie101 said:
If you say so. Usually it is presumed to include physical penetration. But you suggest that it constitutues cheating on your wife to masturbate on the road in your room to a cinemax flick? So heck, if that’s cheating a person may as well just go to the brothel, like Vitter.

“Vestal virgins of decency.” I loved that, nice. :-)

What’s wrong with parsing, I love to parse. What does it mean, anyway?

Your reading comprehension’s not so good either I see, and so you fail once again to understand or make a cogent argument in response. Why am I not surprised…

Fail Troll, is Fail.

b-dob said:
Here’s how the “game” is played by liberals. They make the rules on the fly, then apply them strictly to the right. When called out on their hypocrisy, the rules must immediately be rewritten to fit the left’s narrative. For example, Jared Loughner goes crazy. The left immediately say there can be no “uncivil or violent rhetoric” in politics. They proceed to go straight after Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh, blaming them for the shootings and calling for a new age of civility. Once Loughner is actually proven to be a liberal, the new civility immediately goes out the window, and the screaming heads at MSNBC and NPR go right back to their vicious and hateful (and many times violent) attacks on conservatives.

It’s great being a liberal, in that we get to rewrite reality and all. I can see why the wingnutariat is jealous.

purveyor said:

One more thing VALKYRIE:

I’d stay away from CECELIA. She even scares me! LOL

CECILIA,

I hope you know I was kidding. In truth I am impressed with you. I thought your exchange with VALKYRIE was excellent. People learn when there is dialogue as such.

Nature Freak said:
For enough money, Limbaugh would be singing the praises of Fidel Castro and Che Guevara.
He is a highered hand. There is a reason he is friends with Elton John.

NATUREFREAK,

NO. What you wrote is simple ad hominem, and probably beneath you. In fact, Limbaugh is a force to be reckoned with. Like CECILIA, Rush scares you, (and others) because you can’t defeat him.

Also, someone using the same name, with a series of different pictures has been on this site recently. Have we met, so to speak.

purveyor said:
I think we have too many laws and I think Mill would agree: Cigarettes, seat belts, motorcycle helmets, various food and drugs… Mill might have said that enough disapproving glares would be the best route for making one put out a cigarette. NOT a law!

The New York Yankees used to have less than 100 employees, but now employ several times that many. Why is that? Don’t they still field just 9 players at a time? Likewise, America will always be increasing the number of federal employees because our population and the size of our economy keeps increasing. Correct? Would the Yankees be increasing the number of their employees each year if they were not increasing their income? No, right? Likewise, it is essential as our economy grows to increase the amount of tax revenue. Because we have lowered taxes to the lowest level in 60 years, we are short on revenue. And that is the essential problem.

cjd ohio 1 said:
but the point val, nobody can force him to resign, but people do have opinions

Sure, but mostly that opinion is for weiner to abandon his Constitutional duty and resign.

Fact: Rush spoon feeds the left nuts in society but you can’t help the madness as they are drawn in to his every word.

VALKYRIE,

You are engaging in “Dialectic Philosophy”–question and answer coupled with discussion. Plato would sit on the steps of a temple with his students and rather than lecture, the “dialectic” was Plato’s chosen method of teaching, as he too learned from the discourse.

As for “THE ESSENTIAL QUESTION”, I would agree, right now, around the world various countries and economies are dealing with that question and putting aside, for now, less critical, social or moral issues.

The Conservatives, argue for lowering taxes in time of prosperity as an incentive for the ‘monied class’ to reinvest their “Capital Gains”, expand the economy, thus by “trickle down” effect, more money is raised than Government simply taking what Government feels is its share of YOUR earnings, work, initiative and imagination should be. (Google the “Laffer Curve”)

The Liberal (Socialist) argument is through a “Keynesian” Philosophy. (Google Wikipedia) Ergo, the economy is stimulated and/or repaired by Government raising taxes, printing money even redistributing wealth. Then putting that wealth into public works projects.

In the former scenario, the Nation’s prosperity lasts as long as the imagination, inventiveness and resourcefulness of the people are maintained. Hence, “Free Enterprise”.

In the latter scenario, Government takes, Government Gives and sooner or later, the metaphoric wall weakens by its own weight, and collapses. All of the exigencies of maintaining a vital nation, are either paid for on credit or taken form one person “according to his abilities and given to another, according to their needs.”–K. Marx

America is at a philosophical crossroad now. Do we return to “free enterprise and self reliance of our Founders, or do we look to what I see as a very sinister and discredited economic philosophy, i.e., Socialism/Progressivism etc.

“Our civil liberties are no more dependent on religious opinions, anymore than our religious opinions are dependent on physics an geometry”.

Thomas Jefferson

Like most if not all people of his age was religious, yet he understood that Govenemt should be based on reason and intellect.

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

Rush Limbaugh has got to be the most disgusting person on the face of the earth. His mouth vomits abusiveness. Yet, he marries a trophy wife, fights drug addiction, plays telephone sex with another new anchor, and keeps on ticking. Just like a Timex. . . Self-loathing is likely his best attribute, because he is determined to make every other person lower than himself. Good luck with that rush.

purveyor said:
The Conservatives, argue for lowering taxes in time of prosperity as an incentive for the ‘monied class’ to reinvest their “Capital Gains”, expand the economy, thus by “trickle down” effect, more money is raised than Government simply taking what Government feels is its share of YOUR earnings, work, initiative and imagination should be. (Google the “Laffer Curve”)

Yes, and that is the essential falacy of the conservative economic model, it is based on the false assumption that if you lower taxes, it will increase business investment in the U.S. economy thereby generating economic growth, jobs, etc. Why is that a false assumption? Because in a world economy a corporation gets more bang for its buck by investing in third world countries where production expenses are much lower, and since corporations are programmed to make money as a priority, investment is not made in the U.S. Essentially, by lowering taxes on corporations and high earning individuals, we are bankrolling investment in other countries, not in our own. And while it is very noble of us to jump start the economies of China and other countries, as a natural result of ping pong diplomacy, the burden of that has been exclusively passed to the U.S. working class, while the owners of industry are making mega record profits.

You know VALKYRIE,

It isn’t everyday you find someone in a chat room that quotes Plato and references arcane Supreme Court Decisions.

Anyway, good point, and I share your disdain for that aspect of corporate exploitation. However, for purposes of our discussion you are making too big a leap. You seem to have declared victory and moved on to the next point.

I put forth two models and you dismissed one with a simple wave of the hand, (standard left wing fare) while not even considering the other proposal’s positives or negatives. I could just as easily disregard your position as
fallacious?

Ask yourself why Corporations are moving off shore? Greed, necessity?

How would you correct the problem? Change and/or repair the economic environment within our borders? Or, Install a system of Government that controls the means of production? (careful here)

I have a thesis called “Economic Treason”. I assert that one of the most patriotic endeavors for an American, is to open a business and employ Americans. However, any activity that stems from that business, that harms our Nation, can be construed as “Economic Treason”.

Bring in illegal labor, or, sending out manufacturing, could be “Economic Treason”.

Whether or not ET (economic treason) could be codified by law, with crime and punishment is another question. But, ET is a way for Americans to consider the ethics of their financial and business decisions with regard to their fellow Americans. I am NOT suggesting Socialism, rather, simple civics and ethics coupled with pride in our Nation and History.

Think about it, Economic Treason takes place everyday, all the time. Should we teach our young people character and honor, or just rely on a despot to put his (or her) boot on our neck.

Anyway, you haven’t told me what you found out about the 3/5ths clause?

“The music was new, black, polished chrome and came over the summer like liquid night” ?

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

This man has the NERVE to call anyone ugly? Are all the mirrors at home and work broken? Or is he blind as well as deaf?

purveyor said:
Whether or not ET (economic treason) could be codified by law, with crime and punishment is another question.

I don’t think its anything like treason, or even greed, it is the goal of capitalism, a man-made machine, to make profits. Its simply an out of control machine. Its the Matrix, dude, or that Will Smith movie I Robot.

eyemjustsayin said:

Rush Limbaugh has got to be the most disgusting person on the face of the earth. His mouth vomits abusiveness. Yet, he marries a trophy wife, fights drug addiction, plays telephone sex with another new anchor, and keeps on ticking. Just like a Timex. . . Self-loathing is likely his best attribute, because he is determined to make every other person lower than himself. Good luck with that rush.

And YOU have the temerity to accuse Mr. Limbaugh of “vomiting abusiveness”? Furthermore, the women you sleep with are probably unattractive which is why YOU watch pornography.

“Good luck with that” eyemjustsayin.

I don’t know which concerns me more, that you, NATUREFREAK, VALKKYRIE, et.al breed or vote. Semi-literacy does not make for good parents or citizens Ouch!

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

valkyrie101 said:
I don’t think its anything like treason, or even greed, it is the goal of capitalism, a man-made machine, to make profits. Its simply an out of control machine. Its the Matrix, dude, or that Will Smith movie I Robot.

Mr. VALKYRIE, (dude)

I graciously offered you a gift, a gift of knowledge, an intellectual perspective(s) you probably had never considered before. In your puerile conceit he didn’t have the sense to listen and ask pertinent questions. I should have known better. Oh well.

Think about this people, I was trying to provide some philosophic background to Mr. VALKYRIE. I tried to be pedagogic and NOT pedantic. I could not bring him to discuss, rather, when he read something I provided, VALKYRIE did not digest or think about the concept, rather he he began formulating a retort. Thus he learned nothing. (I certainly did learn something)

As I suggested to Mr. VALKYRIE and his thumbs up or down compatriots: “It is not often you get to converse, in a chat room, with someone who quotes Plato as well as arcane Supreme Court Decisions”.

Mr. VALKYRIE actually attempted to make an analogy using contemporary Sci-fi Movies! Furthermore, he never admitted his error about the 3/5ths clause! (very bad form indeed)

If VALKYRIE and company are examples of current Liberalism, (or youth) a plurality of America, then all seems hopeless.

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC