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Al Sharpton Argues About Tea Party Racism During Unannounced Fox News Appearance

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Al Sharpton is a fairly regular guest on Fox News, but we hear his appearance this morning on Fox & Friends was unplanned and unannounced.

But FNC cleared the rundown and made room for Sharpton on the curvy couch for a discussion about the NAACP, and yes, again, the New Black Panther Party.

“Is the NAACP saying that the Tea Party itself as a body is full of racists?” asked co-host Alyson Camerota. No. “They very clearly are saying elements at the Tea Party rallies have said or done or held signs that are racist,” said Sharpton.

Then it came time for the whole hypocrisy argument. Steve Doocy took the lead. “The double standard is the fact that they offered up a resolution condemning tea parties, although I personally haven’t seen any of the evidence, when you didn’t offer up a resolution condemning the New Black Panther party,” said Doocy.

And commence talking over each other. Look, it’s interesting that Sharpton felt he had to make a personal appearance on the FNC morning show to argue his point, and it’s commendable for FNC to open up the space to let Sharpton come on. But both sides are making essentially straw man arguments. Doocy, and what sounds like the rest of the FNC hosts this morning, want the NAACP to condemn the New Black Panther Party, but it’s incongruous – they should be asking the New Black Panther Party to condemn the New Black Panther Party. And guess what? The New Black Panther Party hason Fox News.

Meanwhile Sharpton wants the Tea Party leadership (who would that even be?) to condemn the few racist signs that inevitably show up. And let’s not pretend they don’t exist. But Tea Party activists regularly hedge their argument about the lack of racism in the Tea Party by saying there is self-policing, that they, essentially, condemn the racist elements as they are occurring.

It sounds like there’s going to continue to be the stalemate between both sides – but that won’t stop the arguments like today’s on F&F:

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  • writer

    No comments about the black panthers, Al?

  • MichelleF

    Oops. NAACP Forgot to Scrub Their Rally Video With Farrakhan Before They Started Pointing Fingers at Tea Party Patriots (VIDEO

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/

    Hm, is the left behind tea-party “racism”?

    Bob Owens at Big Government reported yesterday that the far left Think Progress blog was using liberal-manufactured signs from Crash the Tea Party as evidence of tea party racism.

    Do you remember the abortive “Crash the Tea Party” movement? It was the brainchild of a liberal that explicitly called for progressives to commit fraud in order to attempt to discredit the Tea Party protests.

    At Pajamas Media we covered the abortive effort extensively, and made note of the very real bigotry the Crashers unwittingly revealed… in themselves.

    This morning, I came across this video from Think Progress:

    …Think Progress stitches together a series of posters they claim belong to Tea Party protesters.

    Really, Think Progress?

    Did you not think we’d remember the amusing signs your fellow liberals created for their little abortive “Crash the Tea Party” stunt in Boston? Let’s just say that some were more amusing than others, and some just showed pathetic and angry progressives often are.

    There is an old saying that you’re entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

    Right Klik points out that basically every scene in the Think Progress video was manufactured. The liberal blog even included video footage from 2006 – before there even was a tea party!

    Read more: http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/

  • dowdaytrader

    Hey Al, there ain’t no “head of the tea party”…..and SHOW ME the racist signs Al….and add up the total # of racist signs and divide that by the # of total tea party signs…..

    the math will equal the # of SEIU crashers that attempt to disrupt the peaceful tea party demonstrations.

    Typical “change the subject” tactic of the Left…don’t EVER deal with the issues of Big Government Fails, day in, day out

  • writer

    Has the tea party ever gotten anyone killed? Al did, after he stirred up hatred in the phony Tawana Brawley case.

  • Pablo

    dowdaytrader said:
    Hey Al, there ain’t no “head of the tea party”…..and SHOW ME the racist signs Al….and add up the total # of racist signs and divide that by the # of total tea party signs…..

    Haven’t you seen the Think Progress video that our proggs have been posting over and over again? Bob Owens has:

    Stephen Glass, Redux? ThinkProgress.org Publishes Completely Fraudulent Video Labeling Tea Partiers Racists

    I’m shocked. Shocked I say, to find lying coming out of Think Progress.

  • MichelleF

    Yeah Pablo, I ask Mediaite to do a piece on it, so we’ll see what happens.

  • notsofast

    Sorry Al, every TP leader I have seen on TV has rejected any person saying racial epithets or carrying racial signs, but the NAACP certainly has not done the same.

    And calling Al a civil rights leader?

    He is nothing but a race-baiter.

  • Pablo

    writer said:
    Has the tea party ever gotten anyone killed? Al did, after he stirred up hatred in the phony Tawana Brawley case.

    Al’s body count got a big boost from his incitement to riot in the Freddie’s Fashion Mart case.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Heckman/1446404196 Scott Heckman

    I take nothing from Writer and Michellef they are racist, true blue. Fox News is making a big deal about one incident with the Black Panthers while the weekly racist tea parties are completely ignored, It is just part of Fox News and it puppeting the same old Conservative Bullshit that got this country in the mess it is already in.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    I see a lot of “I know you are but what am I” logic from you right-wingers here.

  • writer

    Scott, you ignore racism when it comes from blacks, so what’s your point?

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Scott Heckman said:
    I take nothing from Writer and Michellef they are racist, true blue. Fox News is making a big deal about one incident with the Black Panthers while the weekly racist tea parties are completely ignored, It is just part of Fox News and it puppeting the same old Conservative Bullshit that got this country in the mess it is already in.

    Bravo Scotty

  • writer

    So do you, RL. Racism only offends you when it comes from white people. If it comes from blacks, you ignore it or say it’s no big deal.

  • notsofast

    Scott Heckman said:
    while the weekly racist tea parties are completely ignored,

    You are a coward and have no proof that if a racist shows up at a TP rally, they are not challenged.

    But racists are applauded by lib losers like you; just look at the NAACP,

  • Iris

    I bet all of you just loved the Tea Party spokespaerson Mark Williams letter to Lincoln and as sick and hateful as it is you will still maniaclally defend it.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Saw it!

    RACISM is endemic in the Obama-Supportering “Black-Separitist” groups, like the black panthers & naacp!
    (Also,Tawana Sharpton LIED about naacp head condemning panthers!)

    Tea-Party had BLACK reps on every station EXPOSING the naacp racial-attack as Contrived, Divisive, & Dangerous!!!!

    THE REAL (White-Hating) RACISTS ARE BEING EXPOSED! – & THEY CALL THEMSELVES ‘CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVISTS’!!

  • ImNotBlue

    Scott Heckman says:
    July 16, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Yeah, Scott. Everyone who disagrees with you is a racist. And the “weekly racist tea parties,” is a perfect example of you’re kind of story… completely fictional.

    The_Reasonable_Lib says:
    July 16, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    I see a lot of “I know you are but what am I” logic from you right-wingers here.

    Really? I see a lot of, “We can do it, but you can’t” from the left-wingers here.

  • notsofast

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    Bravo Scotty

    I see a lot of “I know you are but what am I” logic from you right-wingers here.”

    Thanks for your hypocrisy, the Lying Lib.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    How about Medaite doing a piece on the COVERUP of the Mainstream Media in SUPPRESSING the story of a DOJ Whistleblower TESTIFYING of the “race-based” justice in Obama’s DOJ?!?!?!

    GREAT RATINGS_GETTER!!!

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    writer said:
    So do you, RL. Racism only offends you when it comes from white people. If it comes from blacks, you ignore it or say it’s no big deal.

    Once again, the same old “I know you are but what am I” logic.
    I dislike racism in all its forms. However, I’m not an idiot here. I don’t give weigh to your criticism of Sharpton b/c every person viewed as a leader of the AA community has gotten the same throughout history from Garvey to Obama. I’ve seen the tapes from this, I’ve seen the ones played on fox, and I’ve seen quite a few people walk past those Panthers into that building. The same way you say there’s no proof of Tea Partiers being racist to representatives, there’s no proof here. Testimonies? There were testimonies to the spitting and n-word incident as well. Hold yourself to the same standards, Righter.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    ImNotBlue said:
    Scott Heckman says:
    July 16, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Yeah, Scott. Everyone who disagrees with you is a racist. And the “weekly racist tea parties,” is a perfect example of you’re kind of story… completely fictional.

    The_Reasonable_Lib says:
    July 16, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    I see a lot of “I know you are but what am I” logic from you right-wingers here.

    Really? I see a lot of, “We can do it, but you can’t” from the left-wingers here.

    Please see; http://www.mediaite.com/tv/al-sharpton-shows-up-unannounced-at-fox-news-argues-about-tea-party-racism/#comment-93776

  • writer

    So RL, I assume you carry a club to work or to the grocery store? After all, if those panthers weren’t carrying clubs to intimidate people, they must have been carrying them for some other reason. Maybe they were afraid they’d lock their keys in the car, and might have to smash out a window.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Heckman/1446404196 Scott Heckman
  • ChuckfromTacoma

    I went to a Tea Party event at the capital in Olympia a few months back. There was what seemed to be an out of place protester with a sign that equated Obama with Hitler. I followed the guy out, after he was chased of by the adults. The dumb shit got into a Subaru Forrester that had a Obama for President bumper sticker on the bumper.
    This was about the time the teacher in Oregon was pushing such silliness.

  • Pablo

    The_Reasonable_Lib said:
    I don’t give weigh to your criticism of Sharpton b/c every person viewed as a leader of the AA community has gotten the same throughout history from Garvey to Obama.

    Do the facts of Sharpton’s history move your needle at all, or are we right back to “It’s OK if you’re black.” this time because people have said unkind things about blacks? Do facts matter at all to you?

  • felixw

    Tea party attendees want to have a discussion on the role of government in our lives. The Democrats respond by playing the race card.

    The media has a choice. They can turn the discussion toward a dialogue on the role of government in our lives. Or they can present both the tea party points and the response from the Left. Or they can simply focus all of their coverage on the most bogus smears and accusations.

    They choose the latter path. They always take the low road here, every day in every way. Instead of covering the tea parties, they cover the half-baked smears thrown at the tea parties. And that is why their coverage fails to live up to the requirements of journalism, and never gets beyond propaganda. And it’s also why they are losing viewers at a rapid pace.

  • writer

    So Scott, when that panther said he wants to kill white babies, I guess you thought he meant it in a good way.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Heckman/1446404196 Scott Heckman

    Thats is just one example and it was condemned by the head of the Black Panthers. The teabaggers never condemn anything. If your teaparties are not as you say racist then show me the black people who protest.

  • Iris

    ChickfromTacoma, , how lame can you get , everyone knows thats the new talking point from the heritage foundation , …its liberal infiltration, yeah, thats the ticket.

  • notsofast

    Scott Heckman said:
    Thats is just one example and it was condemned by the head of the Black Panthers. The teabaggers never condemn anything. If your teaparties are not as you say racist then show me the black people who protest.

    No black TP members?

    http://www.breitbart.tv/black-tea-party-leader-fights-back-against-naacp-president/

    Wait, did you just call him an “Uncle Tom.”

    http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2010/07/black-tea-party-leader-george-pearson-defies-racism-in-tea-party-movement.html

  • notsofast
  • writer

    Scott, Fox has featured several black tea party members. It’s odd that if a couple of tea party people carry offensive signs, you’re ready to condemn the entire crowd. But if a black panther says he wants to kill all white people, then another says they don’t all think that way, you immediately buy it. The black panthers are a good, decent organization and those one or two guys are just an anomaly and don’t represent the group. You may be against racism in all forms, but you seem much more willing to forgive when the racism comes from blacks.

  • lazzzlo

    Bizarrely enough, does Al Sharpton speak for the NAACP?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Heckman/1446404196 Scott Heckman

    I sure do, because the form of racism that we have today started the day Obama was elected and has not stopped. Fox News does the same. Like I have said before where were the Teabaggers when Bush was spending this country into the ground.

  • writer

    Here’s what’s funny, Scott. Those panthers hate your guts because you’re white, and they don’t give a shit if you’re a liberal and ‘understand’ them. They’d beat your head in as quickly as they would David Duke. But you’ll keep apologizing for them and singing kumbahyah.

  • Iris

    Writer, as opposed to the teabaggers who hate your because you’re not white and they don’t give a shit if you’re a conservative and are trying to reason with them. They’d beat your head in as quickly as they would Joe Biden. But you’ll keep apologizing for them and singing kumbayah. Is that the difference?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Heckman/1446404196 Scott Heckman

    So basically the Black Panthers and Fox News are just alike, they hate Liberals just because they are, they will lie about you with Hannity, Back and The Three Morning Stooges, just because you are not conservative. But you will apologize for every lie and spin that they do as well. Fox News talks about the Black Panther because in your words they are just like them. Black Panthers as you say hate whites and Fox News hates liberals. HMM

  • lazzzlo

    NAACP…National Association for the Advancement of Colored People…I believe that is the acronym.

    You hit the home page and you get “We are one nation…we are one people.” http://www.naacp.org/content/splash/

    We aren’t actually one people…we are one nation.

    I think that might be part of the argument.

    If I’m wrong…then as a Scots/Canadian naturalized citizen that has lived in most of this country (that’s all in 1 generation) what am I missing?

  • writer

    Quite a diversion there, Scott. Doesn’t change the fact that when racism comes from blacks, you go out of your way to ignore or excuse it. Tell you what. Put it to the test. Go to some of the black neighborhoods in Detroit, or south central L.A., or wherever, and when you spot a bunch of black gangbangers, go up to them, tell them you’re a liberal and you understand, and see what happens. Then come back and give us a full report.

  • writer

    Iris, same goes for you. Tell you what. I’ll go to a tea party rally. You go to south central. Then we’ll both come back and relate the experience.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Heckman/1446404196 Scott Heckman

    Actually no it is not a diversion. What you are saying is that all blacks are racists and hate white people. That basically makes you a racist. Plus there are just as many white as black gangbangers. Geez your racism is so obvious.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    Doocy: I personally haven’t seen anything. Really? I want to hook some of these assholes up to a lie detector. We’ve all seen the signs. For God sakes just come out and denounce them and move forward in a positive way. The reason why they don’t is because they know there is a large element of racism in the movement. It’s not a question of is there it’s a question of are they going to move forward in a positive way. Jeez..

    http://www.livevideo.com/video/4ECFBB2F91DC44FF863DFE4CDB365510/message-to-the-tea-party.aspx

  • tiredofbs

    Trust me, The Left has planned this from a while ago.
    They made sure to have ” a story” firmly planted….
    Send some Kos-Ville loonies w/ vile signs, send some glory-paid
    low lifes to infiltrate agitate & embarrass the Tea Party Patriots on camera
    & Voila!!!!

    But it just doesn’t matter. They cannot diffuse the disappointment
    & disillusionment of Independents & most of the country w/this President &
    his Socialist White House Policies.

  • writer

    Never said all blacks are racists, Scott. But I do believe the black panthers are. And most black gangbangers are. But when I said you’re more willing to excuse black racists, you admitted it. “I sure do.” That’s what you said. So my question is, Why? Why do you have no problem condemning white racism, but struggle so mightily to provide excuses when racism comes from blacks? Isn’t that sort of racist on your part, acting like the black race is somehow incapable of having such feelings, yet every other race is capable of it?

  • MichelleF

    You’re VERY wise tiredofbs!

  • valkyrie101

    writer said:
    No comments about the black panthers, Al?

    I see writer, the half a dozen black panthers should command the same attention as a movement with, how many people is it, 20 million tea partiers? And Sharpton is absolutely right that the NAACP resolution did not comdemn the tea party itself, but the few racists who show up with racists signs, etc.

  • writer

    Again, valk, how many people have died from tea party rallies? The hatred Al stirred up after the fake Tawana Brawley case caused at least a couple. Any comments on that?

  • Iris

    Writer, so you you just used the ruse of the panthers because you’re really afraid of south central and we all know what south central means thats you used it so everybody would know you meant black people in general

  • tiredofbs

    MichelleF said:
    MichelleF says:
    July 16, 2010 at 3:35 pm MichelleF(Quote)
    Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0

    You’re VERY wise tiredofbs!

    Right bak at cha Michelle,

    I’m just disappointed that I didn’t get “Check your self ” E-Mail ()

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    tiredofbs said:
    Trust me, The Left has planned this from a while ago.
    They made sure to have ” a story” firmly planted….
    Send some Kos-Ville loonies w/ vile signs, send some glory-paid
    low lifes to infiltrate agitate & embarrass the Tea Party Patriots on camera
    & Voila!!!!

    But it just doesn’t matter. They cannot diffuse the disappointment
    & disillusionment of Independents & most of the country w/this President &
    his Socialist White House Policies.

    Look, lets stay in reality. We can’t have a meaningful discussion if you avoid the truth and hard evidence. You’re in hard core denial.

  • MichelleF

    Again I say that if anyone can produce evidence that the % of racists in the tea-party is higher than the % of racists in the country, then we can talk. Until then, you’rer scumbag, race-baiters of the highest order and nothing else.

  • valkyrie101

    writer said:
    Again, valk, how many people have died from tea party rallies? The hatred Al stirred up after the fake Tawana Brawley case caused at least a couple. Any comments on that?

    I was working in NYC during that time period. Sharpton certainly got it wrong that time. But he believed the girl. Since then, Sharpton has gradually gotten a more respectable act going, including his frequent visits to FOX, for which FOX again deserves credit. They do take the bull by the horns on the race issue. Cudos to them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    Iris said:
    Writer, so you you just used the ruse of the panthers because you’re really afraid of south central and we all know what south central means thats you used it so everybody would know you meant black people in general

    So two black panthers at in an 80% black district that showed no violence is the same as hundreds of racist signs and interviews. Jeez… Wake up! History will not be kind to the tea party. Wait and see.

  • MichelleF

    Right bak at cha Michelle,

    I’m just disappointed that I didn’t get “Check your self ” E-Mail ()

    Oh the latest is he emailed me a couple of hours ago and said I didn’t need keep putting “consider me checked” in my posts and emails. Colby’s a little thin skinned.

  • Penguin60

    “If your teaparties are not as you say racist then show me the black people who protest.”

    Is that the criteria for racism? Wow, grasping at straws. I guess you can chalk up Code Pink, moveon.org, and the cast of clowns at LSDNBC as racists too. Thanks for the tip.

  • MichelleF

    hundreds of racist signs and interviews

    Wow, please post the hundreds of signs and interviews Dave.

  • Iris

    Interesting Michelle yesterday there were no racist teabaggers according to you and today you’re saying that there are but the numbers can be compared to the number of racists in general. How many racists are on your “job”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    MichelleF said:
    Again I say that if anyone can produce evidence that the % of racists in the tea-party is higher than the % of racists in the country, then we can talk. Until then, you’rer scumbag, race-baiters of the highest order and nothing else.

    The Tea Party is the GOP. We can all agree on that. 23% think our president is the anti-christ. 57% believe he is a Muslim. The Tea Party is way more right than the average republican. Evidence is a bitch huh?

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-03-22/scary-new-gop-poll/

  • writer

    No, Iris, every black person in south central isn’t a bad person. But unlike the far left, I don’t delude myself that since the people are black, there can’t be any bad ones.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    Penguin60 said:
    “If your teaparties are not as you say racist then show me the black people who protest.”

    Is that the criteria for racism? Wow, grasping at straws. I guess you can chalk up Code Pink, moveon.org, and the cast of clowns at LSDNBC as racists too. Thanks for the tip.

    Conspriacies are all yu have to argue with. Reality suck doesn’t it?

  • tiredofbs

    Iris said:
    Iris says:(Quote)

    Writer, so you you just used the ruse of the panthers because you’re really afraid of south central and we all know what south central means thats you used it so everybody would know you meant black people in general

    What? What a stretchhhhhhhhhhhh
    IS THAT WHAT U READ? PROJECTION

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    It’s nice to see you racists on the defense again.
    This was a brilliant move by the NAACP.

    Even Megyn Kelly was whining on O’Reillyabout being called a racist. Boo hoo.
    Black Panthers who? lolol

    NAACP = 1
    Foxbaggers and Teaturds = 0

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland
  • writer

    Dave Noland, those polls were taken by left wingers, so the numbers are going to match the results they wanted.

  • MichelleF

    Not what I asked for Dave. Keep trying!

  • tiredofbs

    Dave Noland said:
    his Socialist White House Policies.

    Look, lets stay in reality. (hahahahahahahahah)
    We can’t have a meaningful discussion if ******you******
    avoid the truth and hard evidence.**** You’re ***hahahaha***** in hard core denial.

    Right bak at cha there Psych major
    LMAO@how pathetic

  • writer

    No matter how much you far lefties complain about the tea party, Al Sharpton still leads in the body count.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    MichelleF said:
    Again I say that if anyone can produce evidence that the % of racists in the tea-party is higher than the % of racists in the country, then we can talk.

    Again I say that if anyone can produce evidence of the Golden Plates and the Seer Stones and the talking Salamander then Michelle can talk about requiring evidence.

  • Penguin60

    “Jeez… Wake up!”

    Good advice, libtards often need a gentle nudge back to reality. Citing Daily Beast is a fast track to looney land.

  • tiredofbs

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    ven Megyn Kelly was whining on O’Reillyabout being called a racist. Boo hoo.
    Black Panthers who? lolol

    NAACP = 1
    Foxbaggers and Teaturds = 0

    So, You fully admit that “reality” had nothing to do with it…
    The whole Bruhahah from the NAACP was a ruse & trick to “Control The Message”
    &stop the coverage, switch topics,
    stop the bleeding. YOU H AVE NOT SEEN THE END OF NBPP coverage

    It is real, it is a problem for America, and FAR from over.

  • writer

    BFD, maybe that evidence is tucked in a box with the Tawana Brawley evidence.

  • MichelleF

    Hey bfd, if you have questions about my religion, please feel free to visit out official website:

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    Have a great day!

  • Iris

    Google much ? any one who wants to see the signs, there everywhere on the interweb tubes, the whole world is looking at them, yeah thats right theres a whole world out there that thinks completely different than you do.you don’t want to see them , you have to believe you’re right so you can continue to fear and hate…oooooo the scary people different from me, yikes. Pitiful

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    tiredofbs said:
    So, You fully admit that “reality” had nothing to do with it…

    Nope, it can be both a brilliant political move AND TRUE!!!!LOLOL!!!

  • writer

    Yeah, Iris. Scary signs are much worse than actually causing deaths, like Al Sharpton did with his Tawana Brawley rhetoric.

  • Iris

    writer , there are bad people everywhere, so you don’t go to south central because the bad people that might be there are black? what is wrong with you.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    MichelleF said:
    Hey bfd, if you have questions about my religion, please feel free to visit out official website:

    http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e419fb40e21cef00VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD

    Bookmarked for hilarity.

    Thanks!

  • sarainitaly

    Did you see the Think Progress video full of lies? They thought they would put together a video full of racist tea partiers…. It is a bunch of BS.

    http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/think-progress-race-lies-and-videotape.html

  • writer

    Iris, like I said, you go there and go up to some black gang bangers, tell them you’re a liberal and that you understand their plight, and see what happens. According to you, there are no black racists and nothing will happen. So go try it out and prove me wrong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    MichelleF said:
    Not what I asked for Dave. Keep trying!

    Were you looking for something that isn’t proof? Because all of the signs in that video are from the Tea Party rallies over the last 18 months. I guess it’s a grand conspiracy of the Left to smear the tea party. How dark is the hole you have your head buried in?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    Did you see the Think Progress video full of lies? They thought they would put together a video full of racist tea partiers…. It is a bunch of BS.

    http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/think-progress-race-lies-and-videotape.html

    It’s a bunch of BS if you’re sympathetic to the uber Right Wing huh Sara? YOu sound like a child

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    writer said:
    Dave Noland, those polls were taken by left wingers, so the numbers are going to match the results they wanted.

    Left wingers? So every poll other than FOX and Rassmussen are left wing polls? Grow up

  • MichelleF

    I guess it’s a grand conspiracy of the Left to smear the tea party. How dark is the hole you have your head buried in?

    Hey Dave, Look at my first post, that’s exactly what it is.

  • writer

    Not as much as being uber left wing, Dave. Body count so far: Al Sharpton: 2 Tea Party: 0

  • Iris

    The point is Shelly, sorry, writer Whats the difference between black gangbangers and white gangbangers? you seem to seem that bad people in black neighborhoods are worse than the bad people in white neighborhoods, why is that writer.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    HARRIS is not a Left wing poll

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    “Walk It Back…
    Tea Party Leader Mark Williams Removes Racist Blog Post”

    Haha…you racists teabaggers spend so much time putting up racist billboards and blogs and then taking them down again did it ever occur to you idiots maybe not to be racist to begin with?

    Try it!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    MichelleF said:
    I guess it’s a grand conspiracy of the Left to smear the tea party. How dark is the hole you have your head buried in?

    Hey Dave, Look at my first post, that’s exactly what it is.

    God you are blind as a bat.

  • Penguin60

    “Al Sharpton: 2 Tea Party: 0″

    They will never acknowledge that atrocity.

  • murf

    Slick Dave Slick .. Race-bait and change profile pic to a Black man . Wow you people are the lowest of the low.

  • MichelleF

    God you are blind as a bat.

    And you’re as dumb as a doorknob.

  • Azarkhan

    “Al’s body count got a big boost from his incitement to riot in the Freddie’s Fashion Mart case.”

    At the same time the Harlem murders occurred, a white Army man killed a black person in North Carolina. I remember the New York Times had the North Carolina case on A1, bottom of the fold. The Harlem murders were buried in a small paragraph in the Metro section. Plus the Times continued to run stories on the NC case, while doing nothing on the Harlem murders. (OK I confess, I used to read the Times)

    Al Sharpeton is a racist swine and always been. He should have been locked up long ago.

    And they wonder why we hate them.

  • tiredofbs

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    So, You fully admit that “reality” had nothing to do with it…

    Nope, it can be both a brilliant political move AND TRUE!!!!LOLOL!!!

    yeeeaa sure
    Reality & fate is never that easy
    If it was “reality” it wouldn’t need “brilliant move”

  • Iris

    Dave, the liberals infiltrating the teabagger rallys is the heitage foundations latest talking point thats why you just started hearing it yesterday from everyone on the right . They are following orders as usual, spread the talking points

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    tiredofbs said:
    If it was “reality” it wouldn’t need “brilliant move”

    Dumbass post of the day!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    When you do things that are evil it’s hard to back petal and admit you’re wrong. Back to my original post. If the Tea Party would just come out and say that from now on we will not tolerate this behavior and we respect the struggles of the African American community then you would see a shift in the way the Tea Party is viewed. This denial shit is making it 10 times worse. It’s just digging a deep historical grave and in the end it will be seen as a white racist marginal movement that came to power in the early months of our first black president.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    MichelleF said:
    God you are blind as a bat.

    And you’re as dumb as a doorknob.

    And you’re a racist.

  • sarainitaly

    Dave Noland said:
    http://www.livevideo.com/video/4ECFBB2F91DC44FF863DFE4CDB365510/message-to-the-tea-party.aspx

    I made it about 3 or 4 minutes in, and didn’t see any racist signs. (well, perhaps the half breed muslim sign). Can you please explain to me which of those signs are racist, and why?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    murf said:
    Slick Dave Slick .. Race-bait and change profile pic to a Black man . Wow you people are the lowest of the low.

    It’s John Coltrane you retard. He is one of my favorite musicians. Why does it matter that I have a black man on my Avatar. This comment says it all.

  • MichelleF

    Hey Dave,
    Please post ONE racist thing I’ve said. I’ll be waiting.

  • sarainitaly

    Dave Noland said:
    If the Tea Party would just come out and say that from now on we will not tolerate this behavior and we respect the struggles of the African American community then you would see a shift in the way the Tea Party is viewed.

    They have, numerous times. When someone shows up and does something, they are kicked out. The leaders have spoken out about the (perceived and fabricated) racism and violence, but the smears keep coming. And many, many people have spoken out about the inability to keep ALL fringe lunatics out of any group.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Yay, Utah!!!

    “SALT LAKE CITY – Utah officials said Friday they have identified at least two state workers who apparently accessed confidential documents to create a list of 1,300 purported illegal immigrants that was mailed to law enforcement officials and the news media.

    Gov. Gary Herbert said the employees work for the Department of Workforce Services, which administers food stamp programs and other public benefits. The employees have been placed on administrative leave.

    “It’s a very small group. The people we’ve identified certainly have some strong political opinions and seem to be frustrated with some of the issues around immigration,” said Kristen Cox, executive director for the department. “I think it’s an immense hypocrisy to talk about taking people to task for being illegal and doing so by breaking the law.”

    Hmmm…”strong political opinions”, huh?

    Was it you who did this, Michelle?
    You know, when you’re working at home on your computer. lmfao

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    I made it about 3 or 4 minutes in, and didn’t see any racist signs. (well, perhaps the half breed muslim sign). Can you please explain to me which of those signs are racist, and why?

    Oh really? You didn’t see “what you talkin bout willis”? YOu didn’t see Obama portrayed as a witch doctor 11:08? YOu didn’t see the “N” word displayed by a tea party leader? “Obamas plan “white Slavery”? Obama in White face? Deny all you want. Most Americans see this for what it is.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=obama+witch+doctor&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

    http://racistconservatives.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/niggar-sign-tea-party.jpg

  • murf

    Dave you are a joke.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    They have, numerous times. When someone shows up and does something, they are kicked out. The leaders have spoken out about the (perceived and fabricated) racism and violence, but the smears keep coming. And many, many people have spoken out about the inability to keep ALL fringe lunatics out of any group.

    Oh so you admit there is racism the tea party?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    murf said:
    Dave you are a joke.

    MURF you are a loon

  • sarainitaly

    Dave Noland said:
    It’s a bunch of BS if you’re sympathetic to the uber Right Wing huh Sara? YOu sound like a child

    Uh….did you LOOK at the post? Obviously not. You sound like a close minded race baiter, who refuses to acknowledge the truth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    MichelleF said:
    Hey Dave,
    Please post ONE racist thing I’ve said. I’ll be waiting.

    YOur defense of racism is enough

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    Racism has to be called out with out any fear. I’m not scared

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    sarainitaly said:
    And many, many people have spoken out about the inability to keep ALL fringe lunatics out of any group.

    “Walk It Back…
    Tea Party Leader Mark Williams Removes Racist Blog Post”

    Yeah, it’s especially difficult to keep them out AS YOUR LEADERS!!!!!LMFAO

  • tiredofbs

    Iris said:
    Dave, the liberals infiltrating the teabagger rallys is the heitage foundations latest talking point thats why you just started hearing it yesterday from everyone on the right . They are following orders as usual, spread the talking points

    Really????????
    Just try, to be honest for once in your pathetic life:

    Jason Levin, creator of http://www.crashtheteaparty.org, said Monday the group has 65 leaders in major cities across the country who are trying to recruit members to infiltrate tea party events for April 15—tax filing day, when tea party groups across the country are planning to gather and protest high taxes.

    #
    Foes of tea party movement to infiltrate rallies

    ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) – Opponents of the fiscally conservative tea party movement say they plan to infiltrate and dismantle the political group by trying to …
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9F1PU2O0 – Cached
    #
    Outcrazying The Crazy: How A Prankster Plans To Infiltrate And …

    The tea party movement is struggling with its own identity, and some in the … he said. “Either we’ve infiltrated their group so pervasively that they might as ….. Provacateurs like this nerd Jason Levin are the only ones who would …
    tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/…/inside-man-how-a-prankster-plans-to-destroy-the-tea-party-movement.php
    #
    Web Site Vows to Infiltrate Tea Party Movement – Hannity – FOXNews.com

    Apr 15, 2010 … And I said, I want you to see what they’re trying to do. … BURGESS: Well, to me the Tea Party movement, liberals are always taken aback when … taking a sledgehammer and robbing my piggy bank, they would never do it. …
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,591112,00.html – Cached
    #
    Leftists Planning to Infiltrate, Smear Tea Party Movement – Dakota …

    Apr 12, 2010 … From the beginning of the Tea Party movement, we’ve known the left would try something like this–it’s just who they are. They can’t beat us …
    http://www.dakotavoice.com/…/leftists-planning-to-infiltrate-smear-tea-party-movement/ – Cached
    #

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    Uh….did you LOOK at the post? Obviously not. You sound like a close minded race baiter, who refuses to acknowledge the truth.

    No I sound like an American who is ready for the rednecks to evolve into humans

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    Uh….did you LOOK at the post? Obviously not. You sound like a close minded race baiter, who refuses to acknowledge the truth.

    YOu just can’t say hey I know that some people in the Tea Party have crossed the line and I’m going to call it out to. Your inability to do this is quite revealing

  • sarainitaly

    Dave Noland said:
    Oh so you admit there is racism the tea party?

    Everyone has admitted that there have been some racist images. EVERY group in the world has fringe elements. The tea party has driven them out, told them they weren’t wanted, and distanced themselves from them, and repudiated them. No one denies racism exists. But people are denying the over reaching racist charges that “teabaggers are racist” that have been made over and over and over again, including many lies and fabrications – the latest shown in the Think Progress video.

    The ridiculous thing is that everyone on the left calls the tea partiers racist for displaying signs exactly like the signs we saw for 8 years at bush rallies – but no where near as violent. Bush as Hitler is ok. Obama is Hitler is racist. How do you figure? Bush as Joker, ok. Obama as joker, racist. Bush as monkey, ok. Obama as monkey, racist. WTF?

    The other ridiculous notion being put forth by the left, is that only white conservatives are racist.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    some racist images

    some racist images? I’ve already said if the Tea Party is admit about calling this shit out I have no problem with them. i don’t agree with them but I would respect them more. So just admit I was right and move along now

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    sarainitaly said:
    The tea party has driven them out, told them they weren’t wanted, and distanced themselves from them, and repudiated them.

    Who exactly is repudiating Mark Williams?

    “Walk It Back…
    Tea Party Leader Mark Williams Removes Racist Blog Post”

  • MichelleF

    tiredofbs, how DARE you make up such lies!!

    And Dave, you are a pathetic race-baiting loser. Iris, you are just a tag-along who rides the coat tails of whatever liberal loser happens to be on the thread the same time as you are.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    Everyone has admitted that there have been some racist images. EVERY group in the world has fringe elements. The tea party has driven them out, told them they weren’t wanted, and distanced themselves from them, and repudiated them. No one denies racism exists. But people are denying the over reaching racist charges that “teabaggers are racist” that have been made over and over and over again, including many lies and fabrications – the latest shown in the Think Progress video.

    The ridiculous thing is that everyone on the left calls the tea partiers racist for displaying signs exactly like the signs we saw for 8 years at bush rallies – but no where near as violent. Bush as Hitler is ok. Obama is Hitler is racist. How do you figure? Bush as Joker, ok. Obama as joker, racist. Bush as monkey, ok. Obama as monkey, racist. WTF?

    The other ridiculous notion being put forth by the left, is that only white conservatives are racist.

    BTW I’m not even talking about the Hitler stuff or the socialism nonsense. That is a whole other debate. The depictions of Bush as Hitler are just as disrespectful.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    MichelleF said:
    tiredofbs, how DARE you make up such lies!!

    And Dave, you are a pathetic race-baiting loser. Iris, you are just a tag-along who rides the coat tails of whatever liberal loser happens to be on the thread the same time as you are.

    Dave you a race baiting blah blah blah… Shut your mouth you racist sympathizer

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    MichelleF said:
    tiredofbs, how DARE you make up such lies!!

    And Dave, you are a pathetic race-baiting loser. Iris, you are just a tag-along who rides the coat tails of whatever liberal loser happens to be on the thread the same time as you are.

    You’re not acting very Mormony now, Michelle.

  • MichelleF

    You’re right BFD, I’m not. Race-baiters bring out the worst in me I guess.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    MichelleF said:
    You’re right BFD, I’m not. Race-baiters bring out the worst in me I guess.

    Your own racist sympathy is on it’s own Michelle

  • sarainitaly

    Dave Noland said:
    Oh really? You didn’t see “what you talkin bout willis”? YOu didn’t see Obama portrayed as a witch doctor 11:08? YOu didn’t see the “N” word displayed by a tea party leader? “Obamas plan “white Slavery”? Obama in White face? Deny all you want. Most Americans see this for what it is.

    What is racist about What you talking about Willis? That is a saying that is part of our pop culture, and has been repeated nation/world wide for 20 years. What, pray tell, is racist about using that phrase?

    Obama as a witch doctor? Did you see the image of Bush portrayed as a witch doctor? What, pray tell, is racist about Obama as a witch doctor?
    http://tinyurl.com/38pqglv

    How many times do we have to provide this, about the *niggar* sign?

    “But not only doesn’t Robertson represent any faction of the movement, he has also been publicly and consistently rebuffed by a number of Tea Party groups who want nothing to do with his message. Even liberal blogs have noted the duplicity in associating him with the Tea Party movement.”
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/black-tea-party-member-decries-naacps-brain-death-with-a-little-help-from-andrew-breitbart/#comment-91991

    How is the Obama/White Slavery sign racist? Please explain how that qualifies as “racist”.

    Obama as the Joker? Have you not seen Bush as the Joker?
    http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/did-obama-joker-poster-cross-line.html
    How does Obama as Joker equal racism? Please explain.

  • MichelleF

    Dave,
    Since you couldn’t post ONE racist comment I’ve said, please post ONE comment where I am sympathizing with racists. I’m waiting.

  • murf

    Urban Dictionary ;

    Race Baiter
    People on internet forums (but not limited to forums) who use racial issues to start an argument. By playing the race card and / or creating volatile race issues that really don’t exist so they can increase post count or potentially draw someone into an argument in hopes of getting them banned.

    Dave Friggin’ Noland LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    MichelleF said:
    Dave,
    Since you couldn’t post ONE racist comment I’ve said, please post ONE comment where I am sympathizing with racists. I’m waiting.

    If you aren’t a sympathizer then why are you arguing with me? I’m being open minded. I’m saying call this shit out and move on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    murf said:
    Urban Dictionary ;

    Race Baiter
    People on internet forums (but not limited to forums) who use racial issues to start an argument. By playing the race card and / or creating volatile race issues that really don’t exist so they can increase post count or potentially draw someone into an argument in hopes of getting them banned.

    Dave Friggin’ Noland LOL

    Har Har Har Douchebag

    MURF THE RACIST SMURF

    Racism: a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

    We all have a dictionary ass hole

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    murf said:
    Race Baiter
    People on internet forums (but not limited to forums) who use racial issues to start an argument. By playing the race card and / or creating volatile race issues that really don’t exist so they can increase post count or potentially draw someone into an argument in hopes of getting them banned.

    White Racist excuse:
    People on internet forums (but not limited to forums) who use racial issues to start an argument. By playing the race card and / or creating volatile race issues that really don’t exist so they can increase post count or potentially draw someone into an argument in hopes of getting them banned.

  • sarainitaly

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Big_F-ing_Deal says:
    July 16, 2010 at 4:05 pm  (Quote)
    1  0
    MichelleF said:
    Hey bfd, if you have questions about my religion, please feel free to visit out official website:

    http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=e419fb40e21cef00VgnVCM1000001f5e340aRCRD

    Bookmarked for hilarity.

    Thanks!

    With these types of comments, it really makes the whole “calling obama a muslim is racist” argument moot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    What is racist about What you talking about Willis? That is a saying that is part of our pop culture, and has been repeated nation/world wide for 20 years. What, pray tell, is racist about using that phrase?

    Obama as a witch doctor? Did you see the image of Bush portrayed as a witch doctor? What, pray tell, is racist about Obama as a witch doctor?
    http://tinyurl.com/38pqglv

    How many times do we have to provide this, about the *niggar* sign?

    “But not only doesn’t Robertson represent any faction of the movement, he has also been publicly and consistently rebuffed by a number of Tea Party groups who want nothing to do with his message. Even liberal blogs have noted the duplicity in associating him with the Tea Party movement.”
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/black-tea-party-member-decries-naacps-brain-death-with-a-little-help-from-andrew-breitbart/#comment-91991

    How is the Obama/White Slavery sign racist? Please explain how that qualifies as “racist”.

    Obama as the Joker? Have you not seen Bush as the Joker?
    http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/did-obama-joker-poster-cross-line.html
    How does Obama as Joker equal racism? Please explain.

    Sara I really don’t have time to walk you through the ins and outs of what it is to be a respectful human. If you don’t understand why the things I’ve mentioned are racist then go hang out with some black people and say these things to them. Go up to a black man and say “watcha talkin bout willis” take these signs to a black neighborhood. It really is time for you to become apart of the society that we are trying to live in. Don’t act like you don’t know

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    What is racist about What you talking about Willis? That is a saying that is part of our pop culture, and has been repeated nation/world wide for 20 years. What, pray tell, is racist about using that phrase?

    Obama as a witch doctor? Did you see the image of Bush portrayed as a witch doctor? What, pray tell, is racist about Obama as a witch doctor?
    http://tinyurl.com/38pqglv

    How many times do we have to provide this, about the *niggar* sign?

    “But not only doesn’t Robertson represent any faction of the movement, he has also been publicly and consistently rebuffed by a number of Tea Party groups who want nothing to do with his message. Even liberal blogs have noted the duplicity in associating him with the Tea Party movement.”
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/black-tea-party-member-decries-naacps-brain-death-with-a-little-help-from-andrew-breitbart/#comment-91991

    How is the Obama/White Slavery sign racist? Please explain how that qualifies as “racist”.

    Obama as the Joker? Have you not seen Bush as the Joker?
    http://sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/did-obama-joker-poster-cross-line.html
    How does Obama as Joker equal racism? Please explain.

    Obama a black man with a bone through his nose. You really don’t have any black friends do you?

  • MichelleF

    Dave,
    I’m arguing with you because you are claiming that the tea-party as a whole is racist. I’m saying, could there be racists in it, sure, but I have seen NO proof that the ratio of racists in the tea-party is any higher than the nation as a whole. And if that’s true, why is this a story? The reason it’s being brought up is the left needs a boogy man to run against. They know the nation is rejecting Obama’s policies and they are running scared. Now if they can convince people that the reason people are against BO is because they are racist, they can run on that. It’s called diversion!! Now, I think alot of people realize you have gone WAY too far with the racism charges and it’s backfiring. For heaven’s sakes, even the NCAAP is dialing it back now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    With these types of comments, it really makes the whole “calling obama a muslim is racist” argument moot.

    All of stuff I mentioned is what is called Dog whistle politics. Its tribalism at its worst. A term you like to throw around a lot. Throwing around terms like Slavery, Obama in white face, Obama isn’t American, He’s a Muslim at it’s heart says he’s not one of us. I have grown up in the south and I know it when I hear it. So play stupid if you will. I’m done with trying to convert stupid.

    Mediate you should be ashamed of this site.

  • sarainitaly

    Dave Noland said:
    No I sound like an American who is ready for the rednecks to evolve into humans

    So, you don’t have a problem with Think Progress assembling a video filled with images that are not of tea partiers, or are taken out of context, and smearing them as racist?

    Dave Noland said:
    Obama a black man with a bone through his nose. You really don’t have any black friends do you?

    Obama the President, dressed up as a witch doctor, just the like President who proceeded him, dressed up like a witch doctor. Why don’t you quit looking at Obama’s skin color, and realize that he is the POTUS. And like other presidents past, he has been dressed up as a witch doctor.

    And please, explain to me, all those other images, how they qualify as racist.

    You have been doing a lot of name calling, and making a lot of assumptions, but so far you have failed to prove anything, or bothered to look at the facts.

    All you can do is see Obama as a black man. Perhaps it is you with the issues.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    MichelleF said:
    Dave,
    I’m arguing with you because you are claiming that the tea-party as a whole is racist. I’m saying, could there be racists in it, sure, but I have seen NO proof that the ratio of racists in the tea-party is any higher than the nation as a whole. And if that’s true, why is this a story? The reason it’s being brought up is the left needs a boogy man to run against. They know the nation is rejecting Obama’s policies and they are running scared. Now if they can convince people that the reason people are against BO is because they are racist, they can run on that. It’s called diversion!! Now, I think alot of people realize you have gone WAY too far with the racism charges and it’s backfiring. For heaven’s sakes, even the NCAAP is dialing it back now.

    First of all I never said they we’re as a whole. So right there you are wrong. I’ve shown more proof than I should have to prove my point. I stand by every word I’ve said with pride.

  • MichelleF

    All you can do is see Obama as a black man. Perhaps it is you with the issues.

    I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, Sara. The left sees color first, but most on our side see the person as a whole. It’s sad really.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    So, you don’t have a problem with Think Progress assembling a video filled with images that are not of tea partiers, or are taken out of context, and smearing them as racist?

    Obama the President, dressed up as a witch doctor, just the like President who proceeded him, dressed up like a witch doctor. Why don’t you quit looking at Obama’s skin color, and realize that he is the POTUS. And like other presidents past, he has been dressed up as a witch doctor.

    And please, explain to me, all those other images, how they qualify as racist.

    You have been doing a lot of name calling, and making a lot of assumptions, but so far you have failed to prove anything, or bothered to look at the facts.

    All you can do is see Obama as a black man. Perhaps it is you with the issues.

    There is so much evidence and you are back tracking with every post. Grow up

  • Iris

    sarah, shelley, writer , you are not fooling anyone by pretending you don’t know what signs, what racism, what defense of racism etc the teabaggers display. Thats what all the segregationists in the south (and north) did and you sound just like them…who us why we aren’t vicious racists we loves our Negroes…. as long as they stay in south central and don’t act intimidating we’ll leave them alone. You guys know exactly what you’re doing.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    sarainitaly said:
    With these types of comments, it really makes the whole “calling obama a muslim is racist” argument moot.

    Making fun of someone’s religion is rude. (that’s me! lol)
    FALSELY saddling a Black man with untruths about his religion to spread fear and hate is racist.(that’s you people!)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    So, you don’t have a problem with Think Progress assembling a video filled with images that are not of tea partiers, or are taken out of context, and smearing them as racist?

    Obama the President, dressed up as a witch doctor, just the like President who proceeded him, dressed up like a witch doctor. Why don’t you quit looking at Obama’s skin color, and realize that he is the POTUS. And like other presidents past, he has been dressed up as a witch doctor.

    And please, explain to me, all those other images, how they qualify as racist.

    You have been doing a lot of name calling, and making a lot of assumptions, but so far you have failed to prove anything, or bothered to look at the facts.

    All you can do is see Obama as a black man. Perhaps it is you with the issues.

    It’s offensive for christ sake. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Again grow up

  • sarainitaly

    Dave Noland said:
    All of stuff I mentioned is what is called Dog whistle politics. Its tribalism at its worst. A term you like to throw around a lot. Throwing around terms like Slavery, Obama in white face, Obama isn’t American, He’s a Muslim at it’s heart says he’s not one of us. I have grown up in the south and I know it when I hear it. So play stupid if you will. I’m done with trying to convert stupid.

    Obama the President, dressed up as the Joker, just as the President before him, was dressed up as the Joker hundreds of times.

    Michelle Obama calls Obama a Kenyan. Is that racist? Obama’s father, step father, and brothers and sisters are Muslim. Billions of people world wide are Muslim. Why is it *racist* that people thought Obama was Muslim?

    And as we saw on this thread, people like BFD have NO PROBLEM mocking other people’s religion, but it is racist to mock Obama?

    You linked that video as proof of racism. I want to know what was *racist* about the images in that video. You can call them dumb, stupid, or mean…. but racist. I want to know how, exactly.

    And you don’t seem to be able to verbalize it, instead you call me stupid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    MichelleF said:
    All you can do is see Obama as a black man. Perhaps it is you with the issues.

    I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, Sara. The left sees color first, but most on our side see the person as a whole. It’s sad really.

    Yea that is a classic Right argument. Accuse the left of exactly the offense you are doing yourself. Very Mature

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    WILL ANY OF YOU TEATURDS REPUDIATE RACIST TEABAGGER-EXPRESS LEADER MARK WILLIAMS!!!!!

    Now’s the time to put up or shut up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    Obama the President, dressed up as the Joker, just as the President before him, was dressed up as the Joker hundreds of times.

    Michelle Obama calls Obama a Kenyan. Is that racist? Obama’s father, step father, and brothers and sisters are Muslim. Billions of people world wide are Muslim. Why is it *racist* that people thought Obama was Muslim?

    And as we saw on this thread, people like BFD have NO PROBLEM mocking other people’s religion, but it is racist to mock Obama?

    You linked that video as proof of racism. I want to know what was *racist* about the images in that video. You can call them dumb, stupid, or mean…. but racist. I want to know how, exactly.

    And you don’t seem to be able to verbalize it, instead you call me stupid.

    Again you have no black friends do you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    Obama the President, dressed up as the Joker, just as the President before him, was dressed up as the Joker hundreds of times.

    Michelle Obama calls Obama a Kenyan. Is that racist? Obama’s father, step father, and brothers and sisters are Muslim. Billions of people world wide are Muslim. Why is it *racist* that people thought Obama was Muslim?

    And as we saw on this thread, people like BFD have NO PROBLEM mocking other people’s religion, but it is racist to mock Obama?

    You linked that video as proof of racism. I want to know what was *racist* about the images in that video. You can call them dumb, stupid, or mean…. but racist. I want to know how, exactly.

    And you don’t seem to be able to verbalize it, instead you call me stupid.

    75% of those images are either directly racist or dog whistle racist. You know it and acting stupid doesn’t help you. Youre exposed.

  • sarainitaly

    Dave Noland said:
    There is so much evidence and you are back tracking with every post. Grow up

    HA! Pot, meet kettle.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    Dave Noland said:
    Yea that is a classic Right argument. Accuse the left of exactly the offense you are doing yourself. Very Mature

    Last time. YOu have 0 black friends don’t you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    HA! Pot, meet kettle.

    Snappy come back. Are you a writer?

  • sarainitaly

    Dave Noland said:
    75% of those images are either directly racist or dog whistle racist. You know it and acting stupid doesn’t help you. Youre exposed.

    well, you obviously can’t explain it. That’s what happens when you throw around the race card willy nilly. It loses all meaning, so much so that you can’t even explain why you consider it racist.

    So, when all else fails, just get nasty and call me names.

    LOL! FAIL!

    Going to watch a movie, so I won’t be replying to more of your *insults*.
    Ciao!

    Have fun Michelle! ;O)

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    sarainitaly said:
    Going to watch a movie

    The Birth of a Nation?

  • MichelleF

    Sara,
    I can only bang my head against a wall for so long. I’m out! I think I’ll go mingle with the sane folk for awhile!

    haha, I just saw your comment. Great minds think alike! Have fun!

  • sarainitaly

    Dave Noland said:
    Last time. YOu have 0 black friends don’t you?

    Yep, although I don’t call them Black Friends, I just call them friends.

    (and I have ex-*black* boyfriends, and ex-*black* roommates too! but i didn’t call them my black boyfriends or black roommates, either.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    HA! Pot, meet kettle.

    If you don’t feel the need to differentiate when a racial slur or image has been used on one president and you can’t understand why it’s offensive to the FIRST black president then I have no more to say. Bush was one of the worst POTUS of all time. However I don’t like the vitriol with the images of him as joker, Hitler or anything else. You won’t repudiate when it is hurled at Obama. You defend it. If I call you the N word and I call Obama the N word. Who will be more offended? Who? You? I can’t see how a white privileged rich president needs my sympathy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    Yep, although I don’t call them Black Friends, I just call them friends.

    (and I have ex-*black* boyfriends, and ex-*black* roommates too! but i didn’t call them my black boyfriends or black roommates, either.)

    Bullshit

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    Yep, although I don’t call them Black Friends, I just call them friends.

    (and I have ex-*black* boyfriends, and ex-*black* roommates too! but i didn’t call them my black boyfriends or black roommates, either.)

    Total Bullshit. You could never have black friends and say the bullshit you have said today. It is more than obvious. Why do 98% of black people break toward Obama?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    Yep, although I don’t call them Black Friends, I just call them friends.

    (and I have ex-*black* boyfriends, and ex-*black* roommates too! but i didn’t call them my black boyfriends or black roommates, either.)

    What part of the south are you from?

  • tiredofbs

    MichelleF said:
    MichelleF says:
    July 16, 2010 at 4:39 pm MichelleF(Quote)
    Thumb up 0 Thumb down 1

    tiredofbs, how DARE you make up such lies!!

    I know… I’m a total “racist” how dare I bring fresh water to the murky
    scum infested pond of the mind that is Left… Reality bites, doesn’t it

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    Dave Noland said:
    What part of the south are you from?

    The reason why the left acknowledges color Is that we celebrate the diversity of this nation. Not try to sweep the ugly parts under the rug because we’re embarrassed by it. Racism is alive and well and we have to call it out on either side. GOP knows that minorites have it tough. They don’t give a shit. Why does a white person care about the plight of a minority? Why not ignore the problems and relish my superior birth right.

  • Iris

    Believe me, Shelley didn’t go far, (hey shelley ,) they won’t even say the mark williams letter is wrong because that just have to justify their hate. They just have that whole white privelege thing that they can hate in the most viscious manner but the minute somebody tries to push back it’s Who, ME? They know exactly what they are doing. What I don’t understand is that it feels so awful to hate, we all know that, why do they keep wanting to do that to themselves.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    sarainitaly said:
    The reason why the left acknowledges color Is that we celebrate the diversity of this nation. Not try to sweep the ugly parts under the rug because we’re embarrassed by it. Racism is alive and well and we have to call it out on either side. GOP knows that minorites have it tough. They don’t give a shit. Why does a white person care about the plight of a minority? Why not ignore the problems and relish my superior birth right.

    The reason why the left acknowledges color Is that we celebrate the diversity of this nation. Not try to sweep the ugly parts under the rug because we’re embarrassed by it. Racism is alive and well and we have to call it out on either side. GOP knows that minorites have it tough. They don’t give a shit. Why does a white person care about the plight of a minority? Why not ignore the problems and relish my superior birth right.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    Iris said:
    Believe me, Shelley didn’t go far, (hey shelley ,) they won’t even say the mark williams letter is wrong because that just have to justify their hate. They just have that whole white privelege thing that they can hate in the most viscious manner but the minute somebody tries to push back it’s Who, ME? They know exactly what they are doing. What I don’t understand is that it feels so awful to hate, we all know that, why do they keep wanting to do that to themselves.

    Because it is a learned response. You aren’t born to hate. They teach you that. Then there is the whole embarrassment element of it. So they double down. Pathetic

  • tiredofbs

    Dave Noland said:
    Sara I really don’t have time to walk you through the ins and outs

    of****** what it is to be a respectful human.**** (hahahahahah coming from Dave,that’s hysterical)

    If you don’t understand why the things I’ve mentioned are racist then go hang out with some black people and say these things to them. Go up to a black man and say “watcha talkin bout willis” take these signs to a black neighborhood. It really is time for you to become apart of the society that we are trying to live in.>>*(reallly???

    >>trdofbs:(why don’t u raise ur pathetic race-baiting hater,, raise YOURSELF to SOCIETY we are trying to live in, where race, God (not Gov) individual rights & justice for all reign..Not a fake Messiah)>end of trdofbs>

    Don’t act like you don’t know

    >>>DITTO>>

    Hahahahahahah
    hahahahahahaha
    (in church lady voice)”Isn’t tthat special?”
    Wha’t a sham – Dave u couldn’t sell water in the desert
    There isn’t one ounce of sincerity in any* of your words
    (see my comments above)

  • murf

    Dave anyone who brags about having black friends and tells others they don’t . Is a serious sign of insercurity and a social outcast. You obviously do not live in the real world . Go out tonight and strike up a conversation with a group of people and tell them the things you’ve said today. I guarantee they roll their eyes or tell you to get a life .

  • Ted

    Dave – You make some logical and coherent arguments. That’s the problem. You see, these tea-bagging idiots don’t understand what racism is, let alone know how to spell it. Dirt bags like Beck and Limbaugh have mainstreamed racism and have made it acceptable, at least to these tea-bagging loons, to be racist and proud of it. That’s what you are dealing with here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    tiredofbs said:
    >>>DITTO>>

    Hahahahahahah
    hahahahahahaha
    (in church lady voice)”Isn’t tthat special?”
    Wha’t a sham – Dave u couldn’t sell water in the desert
    There isn’t one ounce of sincerity in any* of your words
    (see my comments above)

    Look if you want to debate that’s fine but you don’t know me and I can assure you I believe everything I said with every ounce of me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    murf said:
    Dave anyone who brags about having black friends and tells others they don’t . Is a serious sign of insercurity and a social outcast. You obviously do not live in the real world . Go out tonight and strike up a conversation with a group of people and tell them the things you’ve said today. I guarantee they roll their eyes or tell you to get a life .

    He douche bag I have a black wife. You are the biggest racsit on this blog. You accuse me of just putting a black man on my avatar. You don’t know who John Coltrane is. YOu are the ass who needs a life. You’re a fucking nerd

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    murf said:
    Dave anyone who brags about having black friends and tells others they don’t . Is a serious sign of insercurity and a social outcast. You obviously do not live in the real world . Go out tonight and strike up a conversation with a group of people and tell them the things you’ve said today. I guarantee they roll their eyes or tell you to get a life .

    I’m proud of my black friends and family and I’ll brag about it until I die. You shit kicking red-neck

  • tiredofbs

    Dave Noland said:
    Mediate you should be ashamed of this site.

    As I’m sure you are equally outraged @calling Chavz a *gasp* A dictator–
    “People should be jailed” how dare they? BE HONEST & EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS
    for all to read…

    IF U R NOT WATCHING GLENN BECK YOU ARE MISSING A GREAT SHOW
    Dave? You can learn something On
    Human Rights & Civil Rights of Man

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    tiredofbs said:
    As I’m sure you are equally outraged @calling Chavz a *gasp* A dictator–
    “People should be jailed” how dare they? BE HONEST & EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS
    for all to read…

    IF U R NOT WATCHING GLENN BECK YOU ARE MISSING A GREAT SHOW
    Dave? You can learn something On
    Human Rights & Civil Rights of Man

    You are in a deep right wing coma

  • murf

    Thanks for proving my point Dave ! Now Im the racist ! Shit-kicking redneck , eh ? Yeeeeah not so much Dave . May your hate consume you , you ignorant, stupid excuse for a MAN .

  • tiredofbs

    Dave Noland said:
    Look if you want to debate that’s fine but you don’t know me and I can assure you I believe everything I said with every ounce of me.

    If that is true, and you are not just parroting the usual far left talking points,
    I the n ask you seriously, invest some time w/an open mind & explore both sides of this race issue.
    If you truly believe, that Tea Party Patriots, or most Conservatives are racists, all I can say, is you are
    sadly mistaken.

  • Iris

    Smurf is a sad old man that is always trying to convince everyone he was in the service and he is most likely on the government dole too and another one who just can’t seem to get enough hate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    murf said:
    Thanks for proving my point Dave ! Now Im the racist ! Shit-kicking redneck , eh ? Yeeeeah not so much Dave . May your hate consume you , you ignorant, stupid excuse for a MAN .

    You’re a douche. Keep up the good work

  • Ted

    Dave – see what I mean? You have these idiot sheep like tiredofthinking suggesting you should watch Glenn Beck and they come away just a bit more stupid and proudly wear that and their racism on their sleeve. Glenn says its okay. Unfortunately, this is the garbage we’re going to have to deal with.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    tiredofbs said:
    If that is true, and you are not just parroting the usual far left talking points,
    I the n ask you seriously, invest some time w/an open mind & explore both sides of this race issue.
    If you truly believe, that Tea Party Patriots, or most Conservatives are racists, all I can say, is you are
    sadly mistaken.

    Are you crazy? I know more about your psycho cult than you do. I’ve got better things to do with my life then to listen to a paranoid bi-polar racsit like Glenn Beck. Shut your car door shove your candy up your ass and go prey on some one who has a weak mind. Like your mom

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    Ted said:
    Dave – see what I mean? You have these idiot sheep like tiredofthinking suggesting you should watch Glenn Beck and they come away just a bit more stupid and proudly wear that and their racism on their sleeve. Glenn says its okay. Unfortunately, this is the garbage we’re going to have to deal with.

    Dude have no fear. Glenn Beck will never appear on my TV

  • tiredofbs

    Dave Noland said:
    You are in a deep right wing coma

    You are wrong.
    Not because you are stupid, or because u r
    lesser then myself, but wrong in only looking at one
    side of a coin, so far invested in ideology , as many on the Left,
    too proud to go back
    too stubborn to go back & look at both sides and compromise.

  • tiredofbs

    Dave Noland said:
    Shut your car door shove your candy up your ass and go prey on some one who has a weak mind. Like your mom

    I rest my case!
    Pond scum, just self loathing dark
    hater.. I tried to treat you w/some respect, took your word on being sincere,
    & you spit in the face of the dignity offered & that consideration.

    Rot in hell,,,what else is there left to say?

  • notsofast

    Dave Noland said:
    Dude have no fear. Glenn Beck will never appear on my TV

    Dave, want to be called the “N” word ? say you are a conservative, and Ted, BFD, Iris and all the other libs will tell you that’s what you are and throw in an “Uncle Tom” for good measure free of charge!

  • notsofast

    And Dave, thank God you have white people who can stand up for you, since libs believe blacks can’t stand up for themselves.

    And one more thing, STFU, you GD lib moron!

  • Ted

    nutsomuch – by the way, I was dragging a dollar bill through your trailer park and I snagged your mullet. Would you like it back?

  • tiredofbs

    notsofast said:
    Dave Noland said:
    Dude have no fear. Glenn Beck will never appear on my TV

    That’s exactly my poin t. These drones NEVER wonder away from
    Jim Jones & the Left Koolaid

  • BR

    Scott Heckman said:
    I take nothing from Writer and Michellef they are racist, true blue. Fox News is making a big deal about one incident with the Black Panthers while the weekly racist tea parties are completely ignored, It is just part of Fox News and it puppeting the same old Conservative Bullshit that got this country in the mess it is already in.

    Fox was being accused of promoting the Tea Party. Now they dont cover them? Which one is it?

  • Cubby

    Oh man – tiredofbs, notsofast, AND murf on the same thread? I must have died and gone to 6-year old dipshit heaven.

  • ConcernedCitizen3

    This has been one of the most hilarious reads ever… from black gangbangers to “whatchu talkin bout Willis”…

    Can any of the more conservative members of this comment section tell me what they think is racist?… in the form of White to African American… I’d like to have a better grasp on how they view racist comments

  • notsofast

    Cubby said:
    Oh man – tiredofbs, notsofast, AND murf on the same thread? I must have died and gone to 6-year old dipshit heaven.

    Cubby, your cave is calling you.

    And Ted, you red eyes go well with your red neck.

  • Ted

    tired of thinking – you want to bring up Jim Jones in defense of Glenn Beck!? I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time. Sure you’re an idiot, and I think you’d admit that much, but you are amusing. Thanks.

  • Cubby

    Don’t you understand, ConcernedCitizen – only BLACKS are capable of true racism! Because it’s so ironic and it drives the libs NUTS!

  • notsofast

    ConcernedCitizen3 said:
    Can any of the more liberal members of this comment section tell me what they think is racist?… in the form of African American to white?

    I’ll wait, libby!

  • notsofast

    Cubby said:
    Don’t you understand, ConcernedCitizen – only BLACKS are capable of true racism!

    Finally, a lib tells the truth!

  • notsofast

    Ted, Save your breath. You’ll need it to blow up your date.
    ~~~~~
    I’m trying to imagine you with a personality.

  • ConcernedCitizen3

    answering a question with a question? I asked in complete sincerity… If you could be so kind as to give some sort of answer that is coherent, and doesn’t make you look like your trying to change the subject I would truly appreciate it. Thanks

  • ConcernedCitizen3

    See I’d like some real discourse and conversation on the subject, but I really don’t think I’m going to get it here…

  • Ted

    nutsomuch – should I take that as a yes, it was your mullet that I snagged in your trailer park? Don’t get mad, you can have it back.

  • murf

    Chubby – Well if Dave Noland and Ted are examples of maturity. That speaks VOLUMES for you.

  • notsofast

    ConcernedCitizen3 said:
    answering a question with a question? I asked in complete sincerity… If you could be so kind as to give some sort of answer that is coherent, and doesn’t make you look like your trying to change the subject I would truly appreciate it. Thanks

    A Racist? Someone who believes that minorities can not make it in the USA because of their history or skin color and who believes that the govt. must help said minorities because they can not succeed with out external help from the government and who believes any failure in the minority communities is do to the fact that they are discriminated against.

  • notsofast

    Ted said:
    nutsomuch – should I take that as a yes, it was your mullet that I snagged in your trailer park? Don’t get mad, you can have it back.

    Ted has stroked more wood than a Furniture Polisher.

  • Ted

    nutsomuch – tell you what; I can see that you’re upset about the mullet. Why don’t I drive through your trailer park and I’ll let your mullet go. I assume it can find its way to your double-wide. Does it have a name by the way?

  • notsofast

    Poor, ted, you’re living proof that even a turd can be polished.

  • Ted

    nutsomuch – I’ll throw in a six-pack and a blow-up doll. There, you happy?

    PS – your mullet isn’t any more coherent than you are; in fact I hate your mullet and I think I hurt its feelings when I called it a dumb-ass. Didn’t mean it though.

  • notsofast

    Oh, CC3, I’m going to watch the news.

    I see you are a coward and could not address my question after I answered yours, but you are a lib, so I expected nothing less from you.

  • notsofast

    Ted,Why don’t you just open your mind and shut your mouth, both are empty anyway.

    You are depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.

  • ConcernedCitizen3

    notsofast said:
    A Racist? Someone who believes that minorities can not make it in the USA because of their history or skin color and who believes that the govt. must help said minorities because they can not succeed with out external help from the government and who believes any failure in the minority communities is do to the fact that they are discriminated against.

    wow… well I hope thats not your only definition

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    notsofast is a weak sensitive bitch

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    murf you’ve already exposed yourself as a racist. Time to limp off and hopefully you’ll be eaten by wolves. Maybe a wolf that Sarah Palin has shot at will finish you off. How poetic

  • Ted

    nutsomuch – Great news!!! You are the proud father of a litter of mullets. That’s right my tea-bagging friend, you are now the proud daddy of at least a dozen hairy (albeit stupid as a used toothpick) mullets. Congrats my tea-bagging buffoon, your life is about the change!!

    I’ll put them by your porch; better known as an abandoned 1977 Ford 150.

  • ConcernedCitizen3

    oh…
    A) someone who has a hatred for people of another race rooted in baseless arguments such as intelligence, violent nature, etc.

    B)someone who hides behind empty rhetoric and ignores fact that minorities are still discriminated against

    C) people that demonize other people that try to uplift various minority groups

    There’s obviously others, but I think that catches most of them no matter what racism you’re talking about

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    ConcernedCitizen3 said:
    wow… well I hope thats not your only definition

    Every black man in this country is 1000 times more intelligent than you could ever be. Your mom is calling. Time to put on your pants.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    notsofast said:
    Dave, want to be called the “N” word ? say you are a conservative, and Ted, BFD, Iris and all the other libs will tell you that’s what you are and throw in an “Uncle Tom” for good measure free of charge!

    You’re a coward. reveal who you are and quit hiding like a little girl

  • valkyrie101

    Wow, what a workout reading through those. Over 200. Expression proceeds resolution.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    notsofast said:
    Cubby, your cave is calling you.

    And Ted, you red eyes go well with your red neck.

    I know for sure you don’t have a single black friend. You live in your white world of elitist hate. My grand kids will read about people like you and the Tea party and know who was right. You’ll be in the same vein as the The John Birch Society, KKK, Dixiecrats and those assholes who wouldn’t let black people eat in there racist diner

  • valkyrie101

    No, its expression preceeds resolution. I thought all of those were good. Beats throwin’ rocks.

  • murf

    Dave EVERYTHING you’ve said today was absolute lie . In reality you are a 40 somthing year old dude , chillen in your grandparents basement– racebaiting, but hey I don’t judge, you’ve chose that life . Now, are you still on for Chuckie Cheese tonight ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    tiredofbs said:
    I rest my case!
    Pond scum, just self loathing dark
    hater.. I tried to treat you w/some respect, took your word on being sincere,
    & you spit in the face of the dignity offered & that consideration.

    Rot in hell,,,what else is there left to say?

    Rot in hell? If there is a hell you’ll be there. I am sincere but if I don’t agree I guess I go to hell. Thanks Jesus

  • writer

    Iris, white gang bangers are bad. Charles Manson is a white guy. He’s bad. Here’s the point. When a white guy is a bad guy, the left has no trouble just calling him a bad guy. But when the bad guy is black, the left starts downplaying it and making excuses. You keep saying it’s the right that’s the racists, when actually it’s the left. You seem to see blacks as child-like and unable to be held accountable for anything. Otherwise you wouldn’t have so much difficulty in simply calling a black criminal a criminal and letting it go at that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    murf said:
    Dave EVERYTHING you’ve said today was absolute lie . In reality you are a 40 somthing year old dude , chillen in your grandparents basement– racebaiting, but hey I don’t judge, you’ve chose that life . Now, are you still on for Chuckie Cheese tonight ?

    No asshole everything I said is the absolute truth and it’s why you keep responding. John coltrane says hi

  • ConcernedCitizen3

    ps… notsofast, I think that this statement…

    notsofast said:
    A Racist? Someone who believes that minorities can not make it in the USA because of their history or skin color and who believes that the govt. must help said minorities because they can not succeed with out external help from the government and who believes any failure in the minority communities is do to the fact that they are discriminated against.

    is slightly ridiculous. Minorities do not always need gov. help, true. But the simple fact that without government intervention a small bit of many racist institutions would still be in practice today is undeniable. Much of the failure of minority communities is economics. Without gov. help to stop things like redlining many of these communities will stay bad. The fact that you ignore majority to minority racism, but cry wolf when someone says something back is astonishing to me. Racism in any form is “abhorrent”, but just because you don’t say the “n”word in front of mixed company doesn’t leave you with a clean slate. Many people are predisposed to not making it in the USA, black or white, hispanic or asian. But the fact of the matter is that if you are not white in America, things are automatically a little harder for you. You can take that or leave it, I really don’t care if you believe it but it’s true.

  • ConcernedCitizen3

    writer, I’m pretty sure we don’t have a problem holding people accountable. I feel like you have the need to make it known that black people are bad people in general. You stereotype, like saying black gangbangers in south central. If you really didn’t look at color and really took the individual for what he/she was worth, you probably wouldn’t have made that statement in the first place.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    ConcernedCitizen3 said:
    ps… notsofast, I think that this statement…

    is slightly ridiculous. Minorities do not always need gov. help, true. But the simple fact that without government intervention a small bit of many racist institutions would still be in practice today is undeniable. Much of the failure of minority communities is economics. Without gov. help to stop things like redlining many of these communities will stay bad. The fact that you ignore majority to minority racism, but cry wolf when someone says something back is astonishing to me. Racism in any form is “abhorrent”, but just because you don’t say the “n”word in front of mixed company doesn’t leave you with a clean slate. Many people are predisposed to not making it in the USA, black or white, hispanic or asian. But the fact of the matter is that if you are not white in America, things are automatically a little harder for you. You can take that or leave it, I really don’t care if you believe it but it’s true.

    Are you trying to use a thoughtful argument with these jackals?

  • ConcernedCitizen3

    Dave Noland said:
    ConcernedCitizen3 said:
    wow… well I hope thats not your only definition

    Every black man in this country is 1000 times more intelligent than you could ever be. Your mom is calling. Time to put on your pants.

    dave, I think you need to calm down a little bit. I’m not sure what you’re trying to argue with a ridiculous statement like that. I was pointing out the ridiculousness of a statement

  • writer

    Concerned, part of that economic trouble in the black community is the 70% single households. But that would mean actually taking young black men to task for impregnating their women, then leaving them to fend for themselves. And since calling for personal responsibility is politically incorrect, the left will never stand for it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    writer said:
    Iris, white gang bangers are bad. Charles Manson is a white guy. He’s bad. Here’s the point. When a white guy is a bad guy, the left has no trouble just calling him a bad guy. But when the bad guy is black, the left starts downplaying it and making excuses. You keep saying it’s the right that’s the racists, when actually it’s the left. You seem to see blacks as child-like and unable to be held accountable for anything. Otherwise you wouldn’t have so much difficulty in simply calling a black criminal a criminal and letting it go at that.

    What evidence do you have to back up anything you just said?

  • ConcernedCitizen3

    yeah, I think that if I use thoughtful argument with nonsensical people it’ll help me sleep better at night when I think about the state of our country

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    ConcernedCitizen3 said:
    dave, I think you need to calm down a little bit. I’m not sure what you’re trying to argue with a ridiculous statement like that. I was pointing out the ridiculousness of a statement

    I meant that for Notsofast

  • writer

    Dave, did you miss the earlier post where Scott Heckman came right out and admitted that he’s much more forgiving when black people are accused of racism? Just read any of the other posts from left wingers. It’s always the same. No trouble pointing out white racism, but if anyone points out black racism, the left wants to shoot the messenger and deny that there is such a thing as black racism.

  • BlackWidow

    I can see the whack-jobs are out in force on here today beating up on each other. Don’t you people work? Are you on unemployment? Don’t any of you have a life except coming here and making mean with others on here?

  • writer

    Don’t you work, BlackWidow?

  • tiredofbs

    Dave Noland said:
    Shut your car door shove your candy up your ass and go prey on some one who has a weak mind. Like your mom

    Dave Noland said:
    Rot in hell? If there is a hell you’ll be there. I am sincere but if I don’t agree I guess I go to hell. Thanks Jesus

    As I originally thought, u r nothing but an empty brainwashed vessel.A auto drone.
    It isn’t the first or last time (i’m sure) that I ‘ll give credit to a despicable POS
    only to have it blow up in my face.
    Rotting in hell was in response to your outburst (see above) & to selectively C&P only partial
    post to manipulate my words/response, is a low life tactic as old
    as Commies & Liberals have been sleeping together

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    tiredofbs said:
    As I originally thought, u r nothing but an empty brainwashed vessel.A auto drone.
    It isn’t the first or last time (i’m sure) that I ‘ll give credit to a despicable POS
    only to have it blow up in my face.
    Rotting in hell was in response to your outburst (see above) & to selectively C&P only partial
    post to manipulate my words/response, is a low life tactic as old
    as Commies & Liberals have been sleeping together

    Blah blah blah commie blah blah blah liberal blah blah blah socialist… Tired and old are your comments.

  • ConcernedCitizen3

    writer said:
    Dave, did you miss the earlier post where Scott Heckman came right out and admitted that he’s much more forgiving when black people are accused of racism? Just read any of the other posts from left wingers. It’s always the same. No trouble pointing out white racism, but if anyone points out black racism, the left wants to shoot the messenger and deny that there is such a thing as black racism.

    there is such a thing as black racism. but it comes in much fewer numbers than white racism… based on the numbers alone

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    writer said:
    Dave, did you miss the earlier post where Scott Heckman came right out and admitted that he’s much more forgiving when black people are accused of racism? Just read any of the other posts from left wingers. It’s always the same. No trouble pointing out white racism, but if anyone points out black racism, the left wants to shoot the messenger and deny that there is such a thing as black racism.

    there is racism on both sides. What is your point? Do you understand that black people only make up less than 15% of America?

  • tiredofbs

    BlackWidow said:
    BlackWidow says:

    I can see the whack-jobs are out in force on here today beating up on each other. Don’t you people work? Are you on unemployment? Don’t any of you have a life except coming here and making mean with others on here?

    And how did the “Black Widow” come about?
    Is that a racist insinuation? SHAMEFULL

  • tiredofbs

    Dave Noland said:
    Blah blah blah commie blah blah blah liberal blah blah blah socialist… Tired and old are your comments.

    That’s my line for t he usual left dribble.Be original…wait..that’s not possible\\
    You are a boring drone
    onward & upward to more interesting pastures

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    tiredofbs said:
    That’s my line for t he usual left dribble.Be original…wait..that’s not possible\\
    You are a boring drone
    onward & upward to more interesting pastures

    lol do you see the irony

  • Ted

    Hey tired of thinking, might want to spell check “shamefull” there Einstein. Good God man, you’re an embarrassment to tea-baggers and Glenn Beck and that’s really saying something.

  • writer

    Oh, so it’s a numbers game. Since there are fewer black people, any examples of black racism should be ignored.

  • ConcernedCitizen3

    no one said that writer and your ignorant for stating it. I didn’t deny instances of black racism. You are trying to take focus off of part of our history(discriminating against blacks, and other minorities) that is still very much alive today. You can’t bring yourself to condemn discrimination against blacks, but only point out that black people are racist too…

  • writer

    So in your 7:06 post, Concerned, you didn’t mention numbers? I see. And where did I say I didn’t condemn white racism? Can you point out the post? All I’m saying is, you lefties abhor racism, but only if it comes from a white person. You claim to be against black racism too, but the way you struggle in your posts to offer excuses for it says otherwise.

  • Ted

    Well writer, according to you we at least have got it half right then. You, on the other hand embrace racism, that is to say, you’re all for it..

  • ConcernedCitizen3

    ConcernedCitizen3 said:
    there is such a thing as black racism. but it comes in much fewer numbers than white racism… based on the numbers alone

    that is what I said… I didn’t say that because of that we ignore black racism, i pointed out a fact, not opinion. Racism in any form is intolerable, black or white. If I asked you to condemn white racism right now you wouldn’t. Your idea of racist actions is obviously different from mine, and I am not going to call to your bigotry, but what I am saying is you, yourself, you point out the fact that there is black racism, but have selective retention when it comes to white racism. You generalize and say that “lefties” ignore black racism, I do not, and never will stand for racism of any kind. But I’m afraid I can’t say the same for you…

  • atreyue

    Dave Noland said:
    Total Bullshit. You could never have black friends and say the bullshit you have said today. It is more than obvious. Why do 98% of black people break toward Obama?

    98% of Black people break toward Obama because it’s a rule in the Black community that you vote for the Black person. You also want to see someone that looks like you succeed because it makes you feel like you’ve succeeded. The End.

    If you really do have a Black wife and family members, ask them. They may even answer you honestly, despite the fact that you’re white.

  • atreyue

    ConcernedCitizen3 said:
    that is what I said… I didn’t say that because of that we ignore black racism, i pointed out a fact, not opinion. Racism in any form is intolerable, black or white. If I asked you to condemn white racism right now you wouldn’t. Your idea of racist actions is obviously different from mine, and I am not going to call to your bigotry, but what I am saying is you, yourself, you point out the fact that there is black racism, but have selective retention when it comes to white racism. You generalize and say that “lefties” ignore black racism, I do not, and never will stand for racism of any kind. But I’m afraid I can’t say the same for you…

    I think it’s important to remember the context when framing a lot of these people’s posts. They are responding to this article and the DOJ, NBPP and NAACP stories, all of which center on reverse racism. They are trying to make the case that reverse racism is largely ignored by the left and most media outlets, not that white racism doesn’t exist. It certainly does. Not that anything the NAACP does helps to defeat it, or even advance black people.

  • youngwayne22

    BFD and Dave are heroes

  • youngwayne22

    i dont even think the racism is intentional …i thinks its a type of laissez faire racism that even the perpetrators cant detect

  • felixw

    Don’t you lefties worry that your whole public posture has been reduced, on every issue, to playing the race card? Doesn’t this seem like an especially vacuous and hollow strategy for winning voters? Are you really so incapable of defending your policies with rational dialogue?

  • notsofast

    notsofast said:
    A Racist? Someone who believes that minorities can not make it in the USA because of their history or skin color and who believes that the govt. must help said minorities because they can not succeed with out external help from the government and who believes any failure in the minority communities is do to the fact that they are discriminated against.

    ConcernedCitizen3 said:
    oh…

    B)someone who hides behind empty rhetoric and ignores fact that minorities are still discriminated against

    Bingo! We got a lib racist!

  • notsofast

    youngwayne22 said:
    i dont even think the racism is intentional …i thinks its a type of laissez faire racism that even the perpetrators cant detect</blockquote

    Said like a true racist.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Heckman/1446404196 Scott Heckman

    Jeffy, I mean notsofast do you want me to share some of the comments you made at Think Progress about Obama hanging from a tree you racist horse fluffer.

  • Iris

    Like I said Grampy nutso still thinks racism is the cats meow and still in fashion.

  • lanquihue

    Steve: ““Is the NAACP saying that the Tea Party itself as a body is full of racists?” asked co-host Alyson Camerota. No. “They very clearly are saying elements at the Tea Party rallies have said or done or held signs that are racist,” said Sharpton.”

    Have you no shame? That would have gotten me kicked off of the Mount Tahoma High School staff right there. A quote, then an editorial comment with no attribution, then another quote. Seriously, some of us may not have “credentials”, but we can spot poorly written editorials a mile away. Well written journalism isn’t right or left, it’s simply well written journalism.

  • Iris

    Lanquigirl, hows things in the aryan nation, seems they think racism is still in fashion too.

  • Pablo

    Iris said:
    Lanquigirl, hows things in the aryan nation, seems they think racism is still in fashion too.

    Yes, I think both of them believe that. Let’s hope they don’t breed.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    This comes as NO SURPRISE:

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Conservative dismisses right-wing Black Panther ‘fantasies’…

    A scholar whom President George W. Bush appointed as vice chairwoman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, Abigail Thernstrom has a reputation as a tough conservative critic of affirmative action and politically correct positions on race.

    But when it comes to the investigation that the Republican-dominated commission is now conducting into the Justice Department’s handling of an alleged incident of voter intimidation involving the New Black Panther Party — a controversy that has consumed conservative media in recent months — Thernstrom has made a dramatic break from her usual allies.

    “This doesn’t have to do with the Black Panthers; this has to do with their fantasies about how they could use this issue to topple the [Obama] administration,” said Thernstrom, who said members of the commission voiced their political aims “in the initial discussions” of the Panther case last year.

    “My fellow conservatives on the commission had this wild notion they could bring Eric Holder down and really damage the president,” Thernstrom said in an interview with POLITICO.

    ___________________________________________________________________________________

    Of course everyone already knew this except the teatards and the foxsuckers.

  • ConLoonPatrol

    “A few racist signs” ? A FEW ?

    Are you kidding me?

    Hopefully this Mark Williams will bring down the entire vile teabagger scene and put an end to it before the whole country is destroyed, or goes into civil war.

  • yweston

    Why is it the NAACP’s job to condemn the New Black Panther Party. the New Black Panther Party should condemn the New Black Panther Party. And guess what? The New Black Panther Party has – on Fox News.

    Therefore it’s the Tea Party’s responsibility to condemn the racist elements of the Tea Party instead of showing picture of Rev. Wright to mask and support their racism. And as I recall the President “Finally” condemned Rev. Wright and his racist speech and “kicked him to the curb” The Tea Party is still protecting their racist. Even though Mark Williams, one of their leaders, is front and center displaying his racism for ALL THE WORLD TO SEE.

    I love it. Rev. Wright who was kicked to the “curb”. And thousands of pictures of racist Baggers and their leader on TEEVEEE showing his proud racist colors. Yet Baggers keep right on whining. We’re NOT Racist. And….Reverend Wright, Reverend Wright, Reverend Wright. And. Reverend Wright is still in Chicago whining OBAMA KICKED ME TO THE CURB. Unfortunately NO Baggers are saying they were kicked to the curb.

  • sarainitaly

    yweston said:
    Why is it the NAACP’s job to condemn the New Black Panther Party.

    Why is it the NAACP’s job to condemn the Tea Party?

    The Tea Party has spoken out and condemned any (existing, perceived or fabricated) violence or racism within the tea party, months ago. And they have “kicked members to the curb”.

  • lanquihue

    yweston said:
    Why is it the NAACP’s job to condemn the New Black Panther Party. the New Black Panther Party should condemn the New Black Panther Party. And guess what? The New Black Panther Party has – on Fox News.

    Well, looky here, a puppet!

    yweston said:
    And thousands of pictures of racist Baggers

    Wow. And I’m sure you could probably point us to those thousands of pictures. And if not, I’m sure you’ll say, “I’m sorry” and shut the fuck up. Moron.

  • Pablo

    yweston said:
    And guess what? The New Black Panther Party has – on Fox News.

    Like hell they have. If fact, Malik has repeatedly said that while he wouldn’t say the things King Shamir has in public, they’re still very, very tight. Condemnation, my ass.

  • notsofast

    Scott Heckman said:
    Jeffy, I mean notsofast do you want me to share some of the comments you made at Think Progress about Obama hanging from a tree you racist horse fluffer.

    Yes please do , dbag express.

  • writer

    Concerned, anytime anyone talks about blacks in anything less than reverence, you call them a racist. What was racist about anything I said? Census figures show that around 70% of black households are single parent. That’s a fact, so how is it racism to simply mention it? And if young black men are being irresponsible by knocking up their girlfriends, then walking out on them, how is that racism just for mentioning it? If I say the black panthers are racists, how does that make me a racist for mentioning it? When Al Sharpton stirred up hatred that got a couple of people killed, how am I a racist for pointing it out? It’s a fact. Using the left’s logic, whenever the left points out instances of white racism, that must mean they hate the entire white race. That’s what the left says about anyone suggesting that some problems in the black community are self-inflicted. Just by mentioning it, that means the person mentioning it must hate all blacks. Bill Cosby has talked about many of these problems I mentioned. Does he hate all blacks too?

  • MichelleF

    Unions (Not the Tea Party) Now AstroTurfing, MSM Silent

    It was April 15, 2009 when Speaker Pelosi pronounced the Tea Party protests as fake, using the term AstroTurf (as in phony grass roots).

    The entire MSM covered that story and many worked overtime to brand the Tea Partiers as “AstroTurf” in an effort to discredit a genuine, homegrown movement the likes of which has not been seen in this country in decades.

    Despite the fact that tens of thousands of people were part of hundreds of protest events held around the country on Tax Day 2009, NBC’s Chuck Todd appeared on the Today Show telling Matt Lauer the Tea Party movement was one that “hasn’t really caught on”:

    On August 4, of last year, while on MSNBC’s Hardball, Senator Barbara Boxer joined in the discredit chorus, telling Chris Matthews that the protesters were “too well dressed” and too well organized to be legitimate:

    As the town hall meetings during the summer recess of ‘09 found more and more opposition, the charges of “AstroTurfing” grew louder and were accompanied by warnings that they could turn violent. In August, MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann speculated that there was no spontaneity and brought on Melissa Harris-Lacewell from Princeton University to explain that normal people were being riled up by the GOP and “corporate interests.”

    Of course Rachel Maddow wasn’t going to let Keith and Chris have all the fun; last October she actually featured a segment called “The Roots of Astroturfing”:

    While Ms. Maddow was quick to point out that the multi-millionaire David Koch had chosen to use his own money to help fund like-minded individuals in their efforts to protest the direction our country was headed, she completely neglected to mention or draw a parallel to the tens of millions of dollars spent by George Soros to fund the liberal learning Center for American Progress, Moveon.org and their assorted activities.

    So it should be no surprise to anyone when the labor unions openly admit to AstroTurfing by hiring people to stand in picket lines and protest something while paying less than a union worker would earn, the silence from the media is deafening.

    Light the Irony Lamp and let it shine brightly on this one.

    Let me repeat that… The folks standing on picket lines and protesting and chanting at union events? They are temp workers hired by the unions. Are you like me? Didn’t you expect those passionate souls demanding better wages, health care and pensions for workers to be union workers? Newsflash, they are not.

    The Wall Street Journal reports that the powerful unions who pressure and demand that companies pay a “living wage” to it’s members are only offering minimum wage or barely above it to those who stand, march, and demand what they are not getting.

    If the protests are so important, why are the actual union members NOT interested in doing the actual work?

    “For a lot of our members, it’s really difficult to have them come out, either because of parking or something else,” explains Vincente Garcia, a union representative who is supervising the picketing.

    Read more: http://bigjournalism.com/mopelka/2010/07/17/unions-not-the-tea-party-now-astroturfing-msm-silent/

  • newzmaker

    If at least 3 black people will come forward and apologize for the birth of Al Sharpton, I’ll personally apologize on behalf of the Tea Party; and I’m not even a member.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    writer writes:

    “Census figures show that around 70% of black households are single parent. “

    And 50% of White marriages end in divorce….
    And over 1 million White babies are aborted every year.

    What conclusions should we as the readers of this blog draw in regards to White people, writer?

    writer writes:

    “When Al Sharpton stirred up hatred that got a couple of people killed, how am I a racist for pointing it out? It’s a fact. “

    “Stirred up hatred?” Give me FACTS. You presented NOTHING but your OPINION. If you know ANYTHING whatsoever about the history of race relations in New York City, you would surmise that that there is far more to the story of Freddie’s Fashion Mart (including fire code violations), than what your posting here in hopes that nobody would be familiar with the incident, or take the time to research it from a reputable news organization.

    You want a fact about violence and Al Sharpton?

    ” The Rev. Al Sharpton was stabbed in the chest yesterday as he prepared to lead a protest demonstration through the Bensonhurst section of Brooklyn with the parents of Yusuf K. Hawkins, the black youth slain there by a white mob 17 months ago.

    Police officers assigned to monitor the demonstration immediately seized and subdued a suspect, a white Bensonhurst man with a record of assaults who investigators said was drunk. “

    –NY Times -January 13, 1991

    Newzmaker writes:

    “If at least 3 black people will come forward and apologize for the birth of Al Sharpton, I’ll personally apologize on behalf of the Tea Party; and I’m not even a member.”

    And …why does YOUR apology mean anything? When innocent unarmed Black people like Yusef Hawkins are needlessly murdered, posters in here seem to get the same collective amnesia as they do when people post videos of TEA PARTY RACISM.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S38VioxnBaI

    Want more? Listen to some Tea Party Heroes:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXaILy3GE7U

    atreyu writes:

    “98% of Black people break toward Obama because it’s a rule in the Black community that you vote for the Black person. You also want to see someone that looks like you succeed because it makes you feel like you’ve succeeded. The End.”

    Sorry…95% of African-American voters supported Obama in 2008, which means that Obama received 5 percent more support than Al Gore in 2000, when 90% of African-Americans voted for him.

    Al Gore is a White Man.

    Explanation please?

    –Cobra

  • Michael_T

    Good article Steve … very fair IMO.

    I agree with you that the “straw man” was omnipresent in this video.

    The Tea Party would be well served to project a higher profile denunciation of racist elements in their midst … if for no other reason than it would mitigate the criticism and help attract more independent voters.

  • newzmaker

    There are 2 reasons the Tea Party should ignore these racial rants, by the left. First of all, an investigation into these so-called ‘racists’ at the Tea Party rallies, would likely expose that they are nothing more than liberal plants, attempting to marginalize the TP. Secondly, many blacks are presently using the trusted race card, to quash dissent of Obama’s reckless policies, while open borders Hispanic advocates are also playing the race card, against their opponents. Playing the race card is so [yesterday] and serves no useful purpose. I suggest that the opponents of the TP, educate themselves on how to make legit arguments against the TP, instead of whining ‘racism.’ Equality in America, cannot exist until the race-baiters put on their big boy boxers and big girl panties, and behave like adults. Again, education is the key; let go of the race card and present legit arguments.

  • yweston

    sarahinitaly said “Michelle Obama calls Obama a Kenyan. Is that racist? Obama’s father, step father, and brothers and sisters are Muslim. Billions of people world wide are Muslim. Why is it *racist* that people thought Obama was Muslim?”

    It’s racist that “the right” kept calling the President a Muslim for their political gain. They knew it was easy to sell because the Pres. is half Black. It’s racist because the President said over and over “I am a Christian”. There are NO pictures of the President worshiping in a Mosque every week. No Muslims have come forward to say he “worshipped” with them. He isn’t wearing Muslim garb except there’s one picture while visiting his family in Kenya. When I visit my family I go to their “Catholic Church”. Yet the Right keeps pushing that B.S. so they can scare the Dummies on their side.

    Pay-lin says she’s a “Christian”. Yet she lies though every open “oracle” on her body. Death Panels to scare old people for votes. What “Christian is so morally bankirupt” they would frighten 80 year old people for personal gain. $ARAH PAY-LIN

  • writer

    cobra, here’s an article by reporter Thomas Clough about Sharpton and the Fashion Mart.

    The “drums” of the Harlem community had done their job. The word was out. One of Sharpton’s picketers forced his way into Freddy’s Fashion Mart and shouted: “I will be back to burn the Jew store down.” Before he could make good on his threat, another Sharpton protester named Abubunde Mulocko burst into the store with a loaded 38 caliber pistol and shot three white people. Then he shot a Pakistani to death because he mistook him for a Jew. Then he torched the store and burned alive five Hispanics, a Guyanese and a black security guard whom the protesters had vilified as a “cracker lover.”

    After stirring up racial hatred with his heated rhetoric on 125th Street and broadcasting his hostility on two radio stations for months, the Reverend Al Sharpton abruptly claimed total ignorance of what his underlings had been up to. He had a sudden case of global amnesia. In his sanitized autobiography, Sharpton makes no mention of the incendiary broadcasts he and his buddy Morris Powell had made. To hear him tell it, he barely knew of the loud and vulgar protest at Freddy’s. “I visited once to support the picketers and to talk to all sides,” he says with feigned innocence. (p 268) Sharpton continues: “but after a few days, tapes of some statements made by me calling a lessee a white interloper, and then some more offensive and hateful statements made by others when I was not present, at my Saturday morning rally, were released by a right-wing media watch group to further the mayor’s reckless charges.” (p 268) Mayor Giuliani had criticized Sharpton for turning the Freddy’s dispute onto a racial powderkeg. If my memory serves, the “right-wing media watch group” that Sharpton refers to was just one guy with a pocket tape recorder who had gone to one of Sharpton’s rallies at the request of Curtis Sliwa, founder of the Guardian Angels. Sliwa played the tape on WABC radio in New York. Sharpton calls WABC “hate radio.” (p 141) I have heard this recording a dozen times. Sharpton did not speak the vulgarity “white interloper” in some cool detached tone of voice. He employed all the rhetorical skills he had acquired in a lifetime of preaching to fire up the crowd. He was struggling mightily to stir them to action. His words, “white interloper,” sprang from his lips like a curse. His tone left no doubt: he wanted the white Jew gone from the sacred soil of Harlem.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Thomas Clough, writer? Thomas Clough from Weird Republic.com?

    http://www.weirdrepublic.com/episode35.htm

    I quote the New York Times, and you quote Weird Republic.com?

    Why didn’t you just quote Stormfront.org or the Limbaugh Letter next time? End the charade.

    –Cobra

  • writer

    Yeah, Cobra. There’s absolutely no bias at the New York Times. Like with the black panther intimidation case, you have to go to a right leaning source to get stories on black racism because the left wing media won’t report them.

  • writer

    Cobra, how about an article about the Fashion Mart incident from the San Francisco Chronicle? You consider that a right wing source?

    In 1995, a black Pentecostal Church, the United House of Prayer, which owned a retail property on 125th Street, asked Fred Harari, a Jewish tenant who operated Freddie’s Fashion Mart, to evict his longtime subtenant, a black-owned record store called The Record Shack. Sharpton led a protest in Harlem against the planned eviction of The Record Shack. Sharpton told the protesters, “We will not stand by and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business.”

    On December 8, 1995, Roland J. Smith Jr., one of the protesters, entered Harari’s store with a gun and flammable liquid, shot several customers and set the store on fire. The gunman fatally shot himself, and seven store employees died of smoke inhalation. Fire Department officials discovered that the store’s sprinkler had been shut down, in violation of the local fire code. Sharpton claimed that the perpetrator was an open critic of himself and his nonviolent tactics. Sharpton later expressed regret for making the racial remark, “white interloper,” and denied responsibility for inflaming or provoking the violence.

  • writer

    I’ll admit to surprise that a San Fran paper carried the story. Most times the left media consider stories of black racism and violence to be too embarrassing. So Cobra, do you condemn Sharpton’s actions, or are you sticking to your far left line?

  • Penguin60

    “Great men cultivate love… Only little men cherish a spirit of hatred.”
    Booker T. Washington

  • http://none pyrope

    Dave Noland said:
    Racism has to be called out with out any fear. I’m not scared

    Dave, maybe you should show you’re not afraid to call out racism by denouncing in no uncertain terms the myriad remarks of Louis Farrakhan, the (so-called) Reverend Jerimiah Wright, Malik Zulu Shabazz, and all the racists in YOUR race. If you did that, you MIGHT have some credibility.

    To all of you who have had your panties in a wad for DAYS about this bullshit tit-for-tat over who’s a racist and who is not, wake up and smell the coffee–YOU’RE ALL BEING DUPED. The puppet masters are keeping your bowels in an uproar about a thing that in all reality will never change. You see, sadly, racism will never go away unless EVERYONE stands up to identify it whenever and wherever it occurs, and that will never happen.

    Meanwhile, the puppetmasters are screwing us into oblivion–ALL of us. The US economy is in tatters, the dollar is about as valuable as toilet paper, your great grandchildren are in debt up to their eyeballs–and they haven’t even been born yet!

    It’s not a Republican thing and it’s not a Democrat thing, the power of the puppetmasters knows no loyalty to anything resembling political parties–the parties are simply tools that are used to keep “We the Hustings” at one anothers’ throats while our liberties are stolen from us. It doesn’t matter whether it’s the Patriot Act or HSPD-21 or the next version of the Brown Shirts, it’s all about power and control.

    Ask yourselves just what in the hell happened to the $2 trillion that no one in DC can or will account for. Ask yourselves why we cannot have an audit of the Fed. Ask yourselves why you have had a string of Supreme Court Justices since Clarence Thomas, who tell you that it is their prerogative to legislate from the bench, and that the Constitution means only what they WANT it to mean on a case-by-case basis.

    Do I know whom are the puppetmasters? No. If I knew who they were I would either be one of them and would never dare tell you about it, or I would have a price on my head.

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