It gives me great pleasure to be the one to first call the Governor a RINO.

Let the insane re-hashing of the crazy people’s birther arguments begin.

How will the far left loons spin this?

oops ….

catfishjuggling said:
Let the insane re-hashing of the crazy people’s birther arguments begin.

Whino .

catfishjuggling said:
It gives me great pleasure to be the one to first call the Governor a RINO. Let the insane re-hashing of the crazy people’s birther arguments begin.

She did the right thing and still gets the hate. Gawd you people… I swear.

tatboy said:
She did the right thing and still gets the hate. Gawd you people… I swear.

I’m mocking the people who will flame her. She did do the right thing.

Rachel just talked about Arizona being a state that does not issue long form birth certificates. So in their wisdom the Arizona Republicans have passed a bill that would not allow anyone from their own state to run for president … unless of course they have their baptismal certificate or their circumcision certificate. Way to go!!!! :)

catfishjuggling said:
I’m mocking the people who will flame her. She did do the right thing.

Sorry… sometimes it’s are to get context over the net. Thanks for clearing that up. :).

Bummer.

“The bill would have required, in addition to the long-form birth certificate, enough information to determine the citizenship of the child’s parents and signatures of witnesses, nurses, and doctors at the birth”

This is not true. The bill would only require the long-form birth certificate IF it was available. Only if this was not available, would the alternatives come into play: hospital birth record, OR two witnesses, OR an early census record. It actually contained so many “outs” that the purpose was practically diluted away. If Brewer thought even this many outs was intrusive, why would she back the Immigration enforcement bill that she got into so much trouble over? Something is fishy here.

Left wing media… geez….

Good for Brewer…

Now Arizona wont be the racist laughingstock of the nation.

Oh wait..

Gov Jindal in Louisana promised to sign the same type of bill if it passes in the House Legislature….

When Brewer thinks it’s too extreme, it must be extreme.

I’m sure she’s having a cigarette or 5 to celebrate. But in all seriousness, kudos are in order. She isn’t voluntarily wasting taxpayer money to implement and defend a law that stands 0 chance in court.

catfishjuggling says:
I’m mocking the people who will flame her. She did do the right thing.
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Fish, get your “hate” straight!

timcajun said:
catfishjuggling says:I’m mocking the people who will flame her. She did do the right thing.…………………………………Fish, get your “hate” straight!

I hate you.

Next.

cant wait to hear brewer’s role in the grand conspiracy
maybe she was paid by obama’s grandparents 40 years ago

Obama just dodged a major hurdle. He still won’t be re-elected, but at least when he loses he won’t be able to scream, “It’s all Arizona’s fault.”

I guess somebody needs to stop the crazy train that is the GOP Express.

mimsborne said:
“The bill would have required, in addition to the long-form birth certificate, enough information to determine the citizenship of the child’s parents and signatures of witnesses, nurses, and doctors at the birth”

This is not true. The bill would only require the long-form birth certificate IF it was available. Only if this was not available, would the alternatives come into play: hospital birth record, OR two witnesses, OR an early census record. It actually contained so many “outs” that the purpose was practically diluted away. If Brewer thought even this many outs was intrusive, why would she back the Immigration enforcement bill that she got into so much trouble over? Something is fishy here.

Left wing media… geez….

you’re kinda of a dumbass….the information requested IS ON A LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE…Didnt you see trumps last week ???? heres more info straight from the bill ::::::Gould’s bill specifically required a “long form” birth certificate, which includes the date and place of birth, names of the hospital and attending physician and signatures of witnesses. His bill also required candidates to provide sworn statements attesting that both their parents were American citizens.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/04/16/20110416arizona-birther-bill-legal-challenges.html#ixzz1JvwTazzh

ProObamaAgenda said:
you’re kinda of a dumbass….the information requested IS ON A LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE…Didnt you see trumps last week ???? heres more info straight from the bill ::::::Gould’s bill specifically required a “long form” birth certificate, which includes the date and place of birth, names of the hospital and attending physician and signatures of witnesses. His bill also required candidates to provide sworn statements attesting that both their parents were American citizens.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/04/16/20110416arizona-birther-bill-legal-challenges.html#ixzz1JvwTazzh

Another Birther announcement.

Good on you, Jan Brewer. You show you are serious about Arizona and that you don’t participate in foolish conspiracies.

Arizonans should be proud of Mrs. Brewer for this.

Lou Sarah said:
Palin is going to be pissed… she was all set to perform the circumcision inspection when BARRY couldn’t produce his long-form BC!!

She might ‘ave been set to do more than just inspect it.

catfishjuggling says:
I hate you.

Next.
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Fish,keep the hate alive! Next!

ProObamaAgenda said:
you’re kinda of a dumbass….the information requested IS ON A LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE…Didnt you see trumps last week ???? heres more info straight from the bill ::::::Gould’s bill specifically required a “long form” birth certificate, which includes the date and place of birth, names of the hospital and attending physician and signatures of witnesses. His bill also required candidates to provide sworn statements attesting that both their parents were American citizens.

“Presidential candidates must have their national political party send the secretary of state an affidavit from the candidate saying that they are natural-born citizens, have lived in the U.S. for 14 years and are at least 35 years old. The party must include documents proving that information, preferably a long-form birth certificate. If that document is not available, the candidate can provide at least two of the following: early baptismal or circumcision certificate, hospital birth record, postpartum medical record signed by the person who delivered the child, or an early census record.”

LOL Did you read the article you cited ? The quote above is from it . Amazing. lol

Yeah, I guess it’s too much to expect presidential candidates to prove they meet the requirements specified in the Constitution.

X-3 said:
Yeah, I guess it’s too much to expect presidential candidates to prove they meet the requirements specified in the Constitution.

No. It isn’t.

It is, apparently, too much to ask that when he does provide the legally recognized document that his state of birth provides to prove said qualification by birth that the crazy people would actually accept it.

X-3 says:
Yeah, I guess it’s too much to expect presidential candidates to prove they meet the requirements specified in the Constitution.
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He doesn’t like being redundant and he is in charge! Keep the hate alive!

The reasons the Governor cites are perfectly valid and reason enough, but the references to “doesn’t help Arizona”, “doing what’s right for Arizona”, “failing to do anything constructive for Arizona” and “a bridge too far” reminded me of the Phoenix Chamber of Commerce’s open letter asking the state to pull back on “going it alone” regarding immigration because it was hurting Arizona’s image and was bad for business.

She did the right thing. I don’t agree with her on very much at all, but I have to give her kudos for this.

Why would Presidential candidates what to be on the “ballet”?

Mediaite wrote: “Gov. Jan Brewer has vetoed a bill passed by the Arizona legislature that would require presidential candidates to present their long-form birth certificates in order to get on the ballet– a maneuver that would likely keep President Barack Obama from the ballot in that state.”

How, exactly, would that have kept the President off the BALLOT in 2012 — unless you’re saying he would not have gone to the ballet, for some strange reason? You guys need to do your homework. Had the bill become law, the DNC would have presented Arizona’s SOS with Obama’s certified COLB from Hawaii. Under the US Constitution (you Birthers remember that, right?) — namely, the Full Faith and Credit clause — Arizona would have been obligated to accept it.

Thus endeth the lesson.

Frances Martel said:
The bill would have required, in addition to the long-form birth certificate, enough information to determine the citizenship of the child’s parents and signatures of witnesses, nurses, and doctors at the birth

These requirements were part of a bill proposed by Sen. Ron Gould, R-Lake Havasu earlier this year which failed to gain any support and died.
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“Gould’s bill specifically required a “long form” birth certificate, which includes the date and place of birth, names of the hospital and attending physician and signatures of witnesses. His bill also required candidates to provide sworn statements attesting that both their parents were American citizens. The bill failed after lawmakers questioned the definition of “natural-born citizenship.”
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House Bill 2177 proposed by Rep. Carl Seel, R-Phoenix , and vetoed by Gov. Jan Brewer contain none of these requirements .

“Presidential candidates must have their national political party send the secretary of state an affidavit from the candidate saying that they are natural-born citizens, have lived in the U.S. for 14 years and are at least 35 years old. The party must include documents proving that information, preferably a long-form birth certificate. If that document is not available, the candidate can provide at least two of the following: early baptismal or circumcision certificate, hospital birth record, postpartum medical record signed by the person who delivered the child, or an early census record.”

____________

I’m glad that the bill has been vetoed . What’s surprising is what gets reposted over and over and accepted as fact .

George C said:
I’m glad that the bill has been vetoed . What’s surprising is what gets reposted over and over and accepted as fact .

Link to article I quoted : http://tinyurl.com/3v2vboc

Nacho said:
Bummer.

Now, please pay attention: http://images.alternet.org/images/managed/ads_teapartyinc.jpg

The crazy is too much for Brewer to swallow.

How can it be considered “intrusive” to show a birth certificate? Especially when being a citizen is a requirement and the birth certificate is the best proof of that?

And “little Payoff?” With no harm done, it simply gives you the ultimate answer your looking for. How is that not “payoff?”

There is more “intrusivness” bestowed upon me when merely applying for a divers license. She was great on 1070 but this is silly.

well, it’s too bad she caved. i think the bill was a good one. someone got to her.

justanotherconservative says:
well, it’s too bad she caved. i think the bill was a good one. someone got to her.
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So, are you saying this is another tea-conspiracy or she made a left turn from crazy because, it wouldn’t have mattered anyway (no purpose) and this saved another bridge burning?

justanotherwacko said:
well, it’s too bad she caved. i think the bill was a good one. someone got to her.

Yes, its a shame the politicians don’t spend entire months crafting bills such as this. You know, important legisation that help their constituents and moves the country forward.

Unbelievable. Theres still a sane mind in Arizona.

Vetting presidential candidates is a Federal matter and should be kept there. The problem is, they’re not doing their jobs.

Steve_27 said:
How can it be considered “intrusive” to show a birth certificate? Especially when being a citizen is a requirement and the birth certificate is the best proof of that?

And “little Payoff?” With no harm done, it simply gives you the ultimate answer your looking for. How is that not “payoff?”

There is more “intrusivness” bestowed upon me when merely applying for a divers license. She was great on 1070 but this is silly.

Arizona residents would not be able to pass this test since Arizona does not give out the long form BC. The law would have effectively kept an Arizonian from running for the presidency. Unless they can come up with a Baptismal or Circumcision Certificate. LOL What a bunch of dullards.

ellie said:
Arizona residents would not be able to pass this test since Arizona does not give out the long form BC.

Arizona issued long form BC ‘s up until 1997 . Since there are no 14 year old Presidents this wouldn’t be a problem.

ellie said:
The law would have effectively kept an Arizonian from running for the presidency.

Wrong.

ellie said:
Unless they can come up with a Baptismal or Circumcision Certificate.

Or

George C said:
If that document is not available, the candidate can provide at least two of the following: early baptismal or circumcision certificate, hospital birth record, postpartum medical record signed by the person who delivered the child, or an early census record.”

Which covers Arizonans born after 1997 and those from states that don’t issue long form BC’s .

Dullard thy name ellie LOL !

Brewer is still licking her political wounds after her judicial crucifixion over the ill-conceived immigration bill last year, and she’s hesitant to dip her toe in the waters of tea party fanaticism again.

timcajun said:
X-3 says:Yeah, I guess it’s too much to expect presidential candidates to prove they meet the requirements specified in the Constitution.……………………………He doesn’t like being redundant and he is in charge! Keep the hate alive!

catfishjuggling said:
No. It isn’t. It is, apparently, too much to ask that when he does provide the legally recognized document that his state of birth provides to prove said qualification by birth that the crazy people would actually accept it.

This is NOT singularly about -0bama, it IS about every future candidate for the presidency. Have YOU ever seen -0bama’s long form BC? How about his college transcripts, drivers license, selective service registration, and historic tax returns?

No, you’re both just a couple of knee-jerks who think our laws apply only to those with whom you disagree.