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Bernie Goldberg Pushes Back, Tells Jon Stewart To “Man The Hell Up”

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Last night Jon Stewart provided an epic rebuttal to recent criticism he had received from Fox News analyst Bernie Goldberg (who was responding in kind to criticisms that he had received from Jon Stewart.) Today, Goldberg discussed the tete-a-tete with Stewart during an appearance on America Live with host Megyn Kelly and hit back hard about Stewart’s refusal to be fair and balanced.

Kelly set the tone by asking if it’s funny, to which Goldberg joked “He’s throwing spitballs at a battleship.” Goldberg went on to claim that he had no problem with what Stewart did last night. Goldberg then went on criticize the most loyal fans of Jon Stewart who went on Goldberg’s website and wrote vile things on his message boards, calling those fans “sewer rats.”

Regarding the promotional value of this debate, Goldberg self-aggrandized a bit:

Listen, if this is going to help anybody, it’s going to help Jon Stewart more than it’s going to help me. I don’t need any help. I’m on with you and I’m on with Bill, and he’s on with a relatively small audience and if he can get some attention by this debate he’ll do it. But I don’t have any interest in pursuing this, and if he does, that’s up to him, and I’m cool with it.

But Goldberg saved his biggest jabs for the end, when he went on the following rant, that was a direct response to the criticism he received from Jon Stewart:

Jon Stewart criticized me by name because he said I made generalizations about liberals. But then he says when he ignores generalizations by people he agrees with, like Frank Rich of the NYT, he ignores their generalizations which paint conservatives and Republicans and Fox News people as Nazis and whatever else, he says, well, I never said I was fair. Well, come on, Jon, Man up. Man the hell up.

You can’t criticize us at Fox for generalizing about liberals, then you do the same thing or ignore it when it happens and then say I’m not a newsman. I’m not buying that. I’m not buying that for a second.

There is a decent debate about who is winning this back-and-forth between Goldberg and Stewart – both are very successful in their own right (though, judged purely by Peabody awards and Emmys, Jon Stewart wins by a longshot.) But there is no question who the real winner is: us viewers.

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  • Rogue-Comic

    Shouldn’t Stewart be saying “FU Goldberg instead of “FU Fox News.” Or “FU all talk show hosts on Fox News and Megyn Kelly.”

    Seriously, these guys are warring over semantics and apparently its important.

  • noland

    Funny how most people think Stewart is the most trusted man in news. This from a recent poll.

  • noland

    Bernie Goldberg is more successful that Jon Stewart? Hmm is that in Alabama?

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    The winner is the one telling the truth. Stewart can’t win, he lies. Stewart is nothing but a left-wing hack.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    HAHAHA!!! Now Stewart got Goldberg to admit he isn’t fair. (“well, i never said i was fair”)

    Has an ass-whipping ever been more complete?

    Check and mate.

  • ImNotBlue

    Big_F-ing_Deal says:
    April 21, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    Methinks you should read the quote again… or post what it is you’re talking about.

  • Munch

    “sewer rats.”- perfect appellation for Stewart, TRRK, Bill Adkins and liberals in general.

  • Munch

    Big_F-ing_Deal says:
    April 21, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    HAHAHA!!! Now Stewart got Goldberg to admit he isn’t fair. (“well, i never said i was fair”)”

    LOL

    BFD, you lack of reading skills is showing! He was quoting Jon boy!

  • marcus.lewis

    Stewart wasn’t criticizing FNC for generalizations. He was criticizing them because they argued that generalizations should not be used, and then use them whenever they feel like it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    “Dipshit,” perfect appellation for Snacker and conservatives like him in general – ala Rube Goldberg. And, Rube Goldberg, ” But then he says when he ignores generalizations by people he agrees with, like Frank Rich of the NYT…” who hasn’t been on Stewart’s show since 2006. Bernie Goebbels can bitch all he wants to, but the fact is Stewart and Comedy Central have exponentially more credibilty than Fox Not News and Bernie.

  • Munch

    I got ya Billy boy!

    Is your hero, Bill Ayers with ya?

    LOL

  • Bias-Media

    @Marcus

    and Bernie’s point is that Fox is not the only one guilty of this (generalization thing). Bernie goes on to show even Stewart is guilty of committing this act…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ian-Wallace/508023204 Ian Wallace

    He still doesn’t understand the point that Jon Stewart was making. He doesn’t need to be “Fair and Balanced” because that isn’t his network’s mission statement, not to mention that his show is for comedic purposes only and the fact that more youth gets their news from Jon Stewart from the 24 hour news networks is not evidence of his show becoming more news than comedy.

  • marcus.lewis

    @bias-media

    I agree with Bernie’s point; however, the reason Stewart first criticized Bernie and O is because of their hypocrisy. They were saying you shouldn’t generalize and the tea party is unjustly being painted in a broad brush. Then they go on to ignore their own arguments and generalize left wing loons. I understand its hard to avoid generalizations, but to rant about how it shouldn’t be done and then do it in the same breathe is just absurd. Stewart is guilty of generalizations. I don’t disagree with that. But as Bernie also pointed out, Stewart has a niche, small audience and nowhere near the numbers that FNC pulls in.

  • timzank

    heh, winning a Peabody or an Emmy is about as important as winning a Nobel, i.e. obviously anybody can win one.

  • marcus.lewis

    @Ian Wallace

    The youth don’t get their news from Stewart. I contend that most of us Millennials get out news from a variety of sources throughout the day and most of it is online. You go to your homepage and news is there. Go to your webmail–bam there’s news (minus gmail). People claim they get news from Stewart–but I think that just represents that people don’t get their news from the traditional sources anymore. We are inundated with news.

  • Munch

    They were saying you shouldn’t generalize and the tea party is unjustly being painted in a broad brush. Then they go on to ignore their own arguments and generalize left wing loons. ”

    So all of this stuff is over not using the word “some” or “most”, eh?

    Interesting.

  • SteveMG

    Goldberg has Stewart in a corner and Stewart can only escape it by claiming “Well, I’m a comedian” and “I never said I was fair.”

    Okay, you admit that you’re someone that we shouldn’t take seriously. Someone wearing a clown nose and with partisan standards. A sorta’ liberal Jay Leno who gets to, tee hee, use the f-word a lot.

    Fine. We’ll move on.

    It’s time for the next act in our bread-and-circus America circa 2010.

  • marcus.lewis

    @munch

    Indeed, it is interesting. Saying that all people in a group are x versus some people in a group are x has very different meanings.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anthony-De-Rosa/503357744 Anthony De Rosa

    I’m a huge fan of Stewart, and despite the fact that Jon is right about Bernie being full of shit, Jon should expand his satire to go after networks other than Fox.

    His takedown of Keith Olbermann was great, why doesn’t he do more of that?

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/olbermann-to-stewart-point-taken-i-have-been-a-little-over-the-top-lately/

    I’m not huge Olbermann fan, but at least he took his ribbing like a man.

    Earth to Goldberg, Jon is a comedian. Sounds like Stewart hit a raw nerve, and Goldberg can’t take it.

  • The Real Royal King

    I certainly hope that Megyn and Bernie didn’t talk about male members today.

  • Munch

    TRRK, your Sybian is calling you!

  • TfT

    Peabody’s and emmy’s? LOL

    Stewart needs to get over his obsession with FNC. His “comedy” act is getting old.

  • felixw

    Stewart and others on the left have only one response to everything — smug ridicule. You can say that Stewart is a comedian, but Keith Olbermann, Frank Rich, Rachel Maddow, etc. are no different. Given the disaster created by the Obama administration, this approach looks tired and evasive. Fifteen million people are out of work, and the lefties just give us smirks and insults.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Wesley-Smith/725105211 Wesley Smith

    Since this sniping started, Goldberg has made one point a couple of times now, that Stewart (and presumably The Daily Show) has a small audience… compared to O’Reilly or whomever is against the Daily Show at 11, and against Leno either in prime time or late night.

    Does anyone know what The Daily Show’s ratings actually are compared to Fox and Leno?

  • http://www.sailrabbits.com Magister

    @Wesley Smith: Better yet… how many people watch Bernie Goldberg’s show?

  • realitycheck

    What’s needed is a list of those whose paycheck is indirectly sucking off the Fox News teat… Stewart, Olbermann, Huff Post, etc. These people name drop conservatives to garner ratings worse then my attention starved cougar neighbor. Its all fake. And Yeah, Stewart needs to man up.

  • http://soupsoup.tumblr.com Anthony De Rosa

    Felix,

    Olbermann, Rich, Maddow, are cut from the same cloth as Goldberg, Hannity, Beck, etc…

    Put down your Fox News pom poms. All cable news, left and right, is a joke, masquerading as news.

    Stewart needs to spend more time satirizing the left leaning networks, they’re in as bad a shape as Fox is and entirely mockable.

    Also, grow some thicker skin. Stewart is a court jester and you all sound like a bunch of whiny babies because someone made fun of your favorite superhero. It’s a news network, it’s not your best friend.

    I’m just so sick and tired of the left and the right. Stewart is as close to a breath of fresh air as there is. All the networks and cable news, left and right, come off like propaganda machines for their political interests.

  • JamesA1102

    Of course the next step in this fued is Goldberg going on the Daily Show. That worked out real good for Jim Cramer last year.

  • JohnSimpson

    Stewart is as close to a breath of fresh air as there is.”

    hahahahaha . yeah, Tony, spin it!

  • JamesA1102

    Given the disaster created by the Obama administration

    No the disaster was created by the Bush administration.

  • Munch

    JamesA1102- don’t let the facts get in the way of your incorrect opinion:

    BHO’s record: 4.1 million jobs lost in 12 months, record foreclosures, 9.7% unemployment, 3x the deficit in 12 months, 24k more on unemployment in March, 2010.

    Obama Presides Over Most Jobs Lost Since 1940
    By Julia A. Seymour
    Business & Media Institute
    1/8/2010 11:03:00 AM

    Unemployment shot up in 2009 from 7.7 percent in January to 10.1 percent in October before settling at 10 percent in December. Behind those percentages were more than 4.1 million people who lost their jobs during the year. According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that’s the most job losses in a year since 1940. (BLS could only provide data from 1940-2009)

    “As for the deficit, CBO shows that over the first three years of the Obama Presidency, 2009-2011, the federal government will borrow an estimated $3.7 trillion. That is more than the entire accumulated national debt for the first 225 years of U.S. history. By 2019, the interest payments on this debt will be larger than the budget for education, roads and all other nondefense discretionary spending.”

    Deficit climbs to record under Obama’s budget
    $3.8 trillion budget: Jobs take priority; reaction swift
    February 02, 2010|By Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau

    Washington — President Obama’s $3.8 trillion budget blueprint for next year sets a new deficit record of $1.56 trillion, includes a big jobs program and rolls back Bush-era tax cuts for high-income Americans.

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Friday, April 16, 2010
    Overall, 47% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty-two percent (52%) disapprove.
    April 16, 2010

    Voters Currently Divided on Second Obama Term
    Just under half say he deserves re-election
    by Jeffrey M. Jones
    PRINCETON, NJ — Currently, 46% say he deserves re-election and 50% say he does not. Predictably, Democrats are one-sided for Obama’s re-election and Republicans are one-sided against it, while independents lean against a second Obama term.

    NYT/CBS Poll: 52% Say Obama Moving America Towards Socialism
    Friday, April 16, 2010
    By Matt Cover, Staff Writer

  • ImNotBlue

    Ian Wallace says:
    April 21, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    He still doesn’t understand the point that Jon Stewart was making. He doesn’t need to be “Fair and Balanced” because that isn’t his network’s mission statement, not to mention that his show is for comedic purposes only and the fact that more youth gets their news from Jon Stewart from the 24 hour news networks is not evidence of his show becoming more news than comedy.

    You see, but that’s bogus. Just because Stewart is on Comedy Central, and just because he’s a “comedian” (although, I’m not sure what papers one has to sign before becoming a comedian or a pundit… seems to me, there’s an awful lot of distinction for what people call themselves)… doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be held to the same standards as the rest of the world! Stewart has been known to take things out of context, manipulate the facts, and has admitted to doing as much… and his defense is, “we’ll I’m a comedian.” Well, that’s not good enough! It is not carte blanche to make stuff up as you go!

    Stewart needs to “man up” and realize that he has influence, and therefore needs to stop pretending like he’s some unknown, on an unknown network, with nobody watching. Sure, his audience is smaller than FNC’s… but that shouldn’t matter. Talking to 10 people or 10 million, you don’t have the right to be hypocritical or fabricate information!

    You can argue that FNC needs to do a “better job” all day long… but that doesn’t mean it’s okay for Stewart, Colbert, Olbermann, of whomever else to do a crappy job because of it.

  • m

    Goldberg is old. Thank god we’ll have young, newer generations of Americans that will (hopefully soon) replace him.

  • SteveMG

    doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be held to the same standards as the rest of the world!

    Sure it does. No one should be holding a comedian to the standards of fairness and objectivity of a journalist.

    Does anyone say that Leno should do 10 jokes at Republicans as well as 10 at Democrats? Of course not. No one expects him to be impartial. He is what he is: a comedian.

    But we also don’t think that Jay Leno should be lecturing news organizations about their standards of fairness. Or if he does, that he should be taken seriously.

    Stewart wants to have his pie in the face and eat it too. “I’m a comedian” but “I’ll lecture Fox for their lack of standards.” Standards he dismisses.

    Okay. Tell us another joke.

  • JamesA1102

    don’t let the facts get in the way of your incorrect opinion

    I don’t but apparently you do.

    When Obama took office were were losing over 700,000 jobs per month. Now we are actually gaining jobs.
    http://www.collegerecruiter.com/weblog/job-losses-per-month-2008-2009-and-2010.jpeg

  • JamesA1102

    And we were already on the road to record deficits before Obama took office: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9957/01-07-Outlook.pdf

  • JamesA1102

    And today’s tracking poll, not friday’s is 49% approval/45% disapproval. http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

    Although I don’t think polls mean that much. If you took a poll in the 15th century most would have said the world is flat.

  • Cecelia

    Ian Wallace, Jon Stewart (or anyone else) doesn’t have to share the slogan “fair and balanced” with FNC, in order to be accountable for making that judgment towards others. Stewart merely has to suggest that he discerns fairness and balance when he sees it and is willing to judge someone else on the matter.

    Even in partisan punditry there is the imperative that a pundit would hold ALL sides to be equally responsible on questions of moral, ethical, professional standards. Even a pundit would be criticized for double standards. Such partisanship is not opinion journalism, it’s jounalistic hackery.

    There no doubt that Stewart argues that because he’s a comedian that he can rationally have it all ways, but the truth is that even a comedian can lose credibility. Even a comedian can be a sell-out. Even a comedian can be so one-sided that he’s nothing more than a political tool.

  • Munch

    JamesA1102 refute what I posted.

  • http://lnsmitheeblog.blogspot.com LNSmithee

    m wrote:

    Goldberg is old. Thank god we’ll have young, newer generations of Americans that will (hopefully soon) replace him.

    Ruh roh! You know what you’re doing? You’re openly advocating the death of Bernard Goldberg, m … BY YOUR OWN STANDARD.

    Remember this?

  • Cecelia

    Goldberg is old. Thank god we’ll have young, newer generations of Americans that will (hopefully soon) replace him.
    ————————————————-

    Regardless of how you feel about Goldberg’s opinion of his own profession…he’s got a wealth of experience that younger members of the media don’t have.

    His take on the state of journalism is not easily dismissed merely because it’s not what you wish to hear.

  • Ted

    JamesA1102 – If you polled tea-baggers today, most would think the world is flat. We’re dealing with brain-stems – basic limbic system stuff.

  • Cecelia

    Ted, you sound like Joseph Goebbels on the Jews.

  • Munch

    james, I will make easy so that even someone like you can understand this:

    Obama Presides Over Most Jobs Lost Since 1940
    According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that’s the most job losses in a year since 1940. (BLS could only provide data from 1940-2009)

    Washington — President Obama’s $3.8 trillion budget blueprint for next year sets a new deficit record of $1.56 trillion,

    As for the deficit, CBO shows that over the first three years of the Obama Presidency, 2009-2011, the federal government will borrow an estimated $3.7 trillion. THAT IS MORE THAN THE ENTIRE ACCUMULATED NATIONAL DEBT FOR THE FIRST 225 YEARS OF U.S. HISTORY.

  • Munch

    Oh, Ted, slip into something more comfortable: Like a coma.

    And you still can’t refute one thing!

    Typical, lying liberal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeremy-Montano/20207219 Jeremy Montano

    “Stewart wants to have his pie in the face and eat it too. “I’m a comedian” but “I’ll lecture Fox for their lack of standards.” Standards he dismisses.”

    Um…the two aren’t incompatible. Comedians are allowed to have a point of view and express that through comedy. As Stewart says in that bit, comedians have been using comedy to make social commentary for thousands of years, just as he does. Personally, I don’t want comedians (even ones I disagree with) to be “fair”; what’s the point of that? How does that create good comedy? Left, right, whatever, all good comedians have a strong point of view that they utilize in their material. “The Daily Show” presents itself as a show with a point of view from the outset (I also don’t buy that they intend to be taken entirely-seriously in the first place).

    There’s nothing wrong with a comedian “lecturing” others, as long as it’s funny when they do. South Park, P.J. O’Rourke, Bill Maher, George Carlin, Dave Chappelle, Bill Hicks, and many others make/have made careers lecturing others through comedy. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

  • Cecelia

    Jeremy Montano, I think you’re confusing fairness with objectivity. Stewart doesn’t have to be objective. He can have his own opinions and priorities.

    However, in order to be more than Tokyo Rose, he does have to have some sense of common standards that he applies across the board.

  • SteveMG

    Um…the two aren’t incompatible

    Sure they are if he wants to be a credible or even semi-credible social/political critic and not just a court jester.

    If he’s saying one thing but lecturing others to do something else – and he is only doing it out of partisan purposes – what credibility does he have? To his fans, yeah; but to others?

    I agree that I don’t care whether a comedian is fair or not. Who cares? They make jokes.

    But if all Stewart wants to be – and all he should be considered as – is a comedian then really, stop the lecturing about the lack of standards in others. He can do it, of course; but we will just laugh and not consider it worthy of any further consideration.

    Because it’s just jokes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Moore/100000551174759 Steven Moore

    Look, I like john stewart, he gives me a haha once in a while, but bernie goldberg is absolutely right. John Stewart criticizes Goldberg for over-generalizing, which he really wasnt if you get down to it, and then turns around and says nothing about over-generlizations on the left and then when called out on it, he says ‘im just kidding, I don’t claim to be a newsman and be fair and balanced’? Then why attack bernie, kind of a well mannered nice guy, by name? Naw, I think john stewart is not only being kind of a little lap dog for the far left establishment, but is very much of a coward. Sorry, but bernie is right, stewart ought to man up, and grow a helpful pair. Ive lost all respect for the funny man….He’s starting to look more and more like Maher. and you know what they say about maher the lamer.

  • http://lnsmitheeblog.blogspot.com LNSmithee

    Colby: Here’s you, from yesterday:

    While a real debate between Goldberg and Stewart would be fascinating, it will never happen. And something tells me that Jon Stewart will realize that Goldberg is benefiting far more from this tete a tete than he (or logic or reason for that matter), so we shouldn’t be surprised if Stewart doesn’t retaliate to this latest salvo. But we can dream.

    Here’s me, in response:

    Scuse me? More people watch Goldberg when he appears on O’Reilly Factor than watch Stewart. You know that.

    And here’s you, today.

    Regarding the promotional value of this debate, Goldberg self-aggrandized a bit:

    “Self-aggrandized”? Goldberg told the truth: His viewership in his truncated Factor segments are larger than Stewart’s Daily Show audiences five hours a week. You Mediaite guys post the ratings constantly — why didn’t you pick that up?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kevin-Nelson/100000843821605 Kevin Nelson

    Both of these guys are big boys and can take the other guys punch. It’s harmless fun and both benefit. Regarding Megyn Kelly…my, my, my. Nuff said.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Moore/100000551174759 Steven Moore

    I mean fine…if john stewart wants to be that way, then there is no reason to take him at all seriously…he’s just another biased and lame, more satirical version of maher (although its hard to beat maher, I mean he beat the dead horse of bush and religion for 4 years in a row, not to mention stewart has it in his dna to be much funnier and thus, edgier than that, but stil…) as the person he is claiming to be biased, and hence, he’s really just a left leaning hack. Airight, if he wants to do that and pander to an audience….go for it. But lets be frank, there is nothing really to take seriously or respect, in john stewart. And that will be a fact from now. F-bomb or no f-bomb. There is nothing edgy, anti-establishment, or truthful about stewart’s commentary, he’s just as part of the left leaning establishment and dishonest in his commentary, as anyone on the new york times or MSNBC.

  • JohnSimpson

    Ah, I long for the old days when REAL comedians would hold the feet of the “powers that be” to the fire and not shill for them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Moore/100000551174759 Steven Moore

    And its kind of a let down, because john stewart back in the day, attacked george bush just as vehemently as he did the left leaning and lame network of the time, cnn….So it balanced out, there was something to respect. He was edgy, witty, and did have a very crisp concept of a corrupt political landscape…bringing it to the massess in a concise and smart way. But not anymore, I don’t know exactly when the shift took place, but its fairly obvious now. John Stewart has regrettebly and sadly, turned into just another leftist hack.

  • http://lnsmitheeblog.blogspot.com LNSmithee

    Ted wrote:

    JamesA1102 – If you polled tea-baggers today, most would think the world is flat. We’re dealing with brain-stems – basic limbic system stuff.

    Uh huh. Ask Ted’s Nobel Prize-winning neurology professor: Dr. Janeane Garofolo.

  • NORBIT

    Jon Stewart is Comedy Central’s Keith Olbermann – both can only snipe from the protected environs of their Progressive bunkers.

  • JamesA1102

    JamesA1102 refute what I posted.

    I did. Why don’t you try to refute what I posted instead of repeating talking points.

    We weren’t a full employment on Jan. 19, 2009 and then suddenly started losing jobs. We were already losing jobs at a historic rate but the trendline has been going down ever since and now we are gaining jobs.
    http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/02/news/economy/jobs_march/index.htm

    Same with the deficit. We didn’t have a balanced budget on 1/19/09; we were already had a high deficit and on the road to even higher ones.

  • Munch

    I did. Why don’t you try to refute what I posted instead of repeating talking points. ”

    LOL

    They are from articles and Govt. agencies, , troll!!!

    Refute them! You did nothing except blame Bush!

    “Same with the deficit. We didn’t have a balanced budget on 1/19/09; we were already had a high deficit and on the road to even higher ones.”

    Totally irrelevant. Talk about today, not Bush, child.

    BTW, the BLS is the govt, office that tracks unemployment, so take your “talking points” to them.

  • Munch

    James, read this slowly, like a liberal:

    As for the deficit, CBO shows that over the first three years of the Obama Presidency, 2009-2011, the federal government will borrow an estimated $3.7 trillion. THAT IS MORE THAN THE ENTIRE ACCUMULATED NATIONAL DEBT FOR THE FIRST 225 YEARS OF U.S. HISTORY.

    THAT IS MORE THAN THE ENTIRE ACCUMULATED NATIONAL DEBT FOR THE FIRST 225 YEARS OF U.S. HISTORY.

    THAT IS MORE THAN THE ENTIRE ACCUMULATED NATIONAL DEBT FOR THE FIRST 225 YEARS OF U.S. HISTORY.

    THAT IS MORE THAN THE ENTIRE ACCUMULATED NATIONAL DEBT FOR THE FIRST 225 YEARS OF U.S. HISTORY.

  • http://soupsoup.tumblr.com Anthony De Rosa

    Stewart attacks the left as well….

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/olbermann-to-stewart-point-taken-i-have-been-a-little-over-the-top-lately/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/13/daily-show-destroys-cnn-f_n_318295.html

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/jon-stewart-torches-cnn-and-redstates-erick-erickson/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/02/jon-stewart-msnbc-is-the_n_147629.html

    You guys can’t take a joke. Which leads me to ask, why the hell do you care that Stewart makes fun of Fox News anyway? They’re a “news” network. What world are we living in where people have such passionate feelings about a faceless corporation that only has one purpose: to sell commercials based on your viewership. Stop being such puppets.

  • Munch

    James :

    BEHIND THOSE PERCENTAGES WERE MORE THAN 4.1 MILLION PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR JOBS DURING THE YEAR. ACCORDING TO DATA FROM THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, THAT’S THE MOST JOB LOSSES IN A YEAR SINCE 1940. (BLS COULD ONLY PROVIDE DATA FROM 1940-2009)

    BEHIND THOSE PERCENTAGES WERE MORE THAN 4.1 MILLION PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR JOBS DURING THE YEAR. ACCORDING TO DATA FROM THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, THAT’S THE MOST JOB LOSSES IN A YEAR SINCE 1940. (BLS COULD ONLY PROVIDE DATA FROM 1940-2009)

    BEHIND THOSE PERCENTAGES WERE MORE THAN 4.1 MILLION PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR JOBS DURING THE YEAR. ACCORDING TO DATA FROM THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, THAT’S THE MOST JOB LOSSES IN A YEAR SINCE 1940. (BLS COULD ONLY PROVIDE DATA FROM 1940-2009)

  • Munch

    Anthony De Rosa – great Tony, you idea of comedy is some self-absorbed guy attacking other networks?

    OMG, stop the press! that’s real comedy!

  • JamesA1102

    THAT IS MORE THAN THE ENTIRE ACCUMULATED NATIONAL DEBT FOR THE FIRST 225 YEARS OF U.S. HISTORY.

    Typing in all caps over and over doesn’t prove your point. The problem is is that you’re trying to pretend that all these problems started the day Obama became our President. But the fact is they started long before that under the Bush Administration.

    And since you are so fond of polls, most blame Bush for the bad economy than President Obama: http://www.gallup.com/poll/127472/Bush-Gets-More-Blame-Economy-Obama.aspx

  • Ted

    Hey Munch – why don’t you make like a tree and leave? LMAO!!!

    Typical low IQ tea-bagger.

  • marcus.lewis

    I nominate Anthony for most clear and concise post of the thread.

  • Cecelia

    Clear and concise? He’s completely ignored the fact that Stewart has criticized and has been engaged in a tit-for-tat with a person, not merely a news corporation.

  • http://www.karlspensen.blogspot.com Karl Spensen

    Jon Stewart should ABSOLUTELY be held to the SAME STANDARDS as a NEWS NETWORK!!1 That statement makes SO MUCH SENSE I don’t even need to explain it!!1

    Also – THANK YOU MUNCH for all of the TOTALLY RELEVANT information!!1 I got the same thing from an E-MAIL FORWARD I got from my mother, but it’s always good for it to be posted in as MANY places as possible so we can SPREAD THE WORD about the SOCIOFASCISTS who are out to destroy our Once Proud Republic!!1

  • Munch

    JamesA1102- keep repeating: Obama is president, Obama is president!

    LMAO

  • Munch

    Ted,can I borrow your face for a few days while my ass is on vacation?

  • Munch

    Karl, You are depriving a village somewhere of its idiot.

    BTW, like Jimmy boy,you could NOT refute any of what I posted!

    LMAO!

  • Munch

    James:

    Bawaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Friday, April 16, 2010
    Overall, 47% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty-two percent (52%) disapprove.
    April 16, 2010

    Voters Currently Divided on Second Obama Term
    Just under half say he deserves re-election
    by Jeffrey M. Jones
    PRINCETON, NJ — Currently, 46% say he deserves re-election and 50% say he does not. Predictably, Democrats are one-sided for Obama’s re-election and Republicans are one-sided against it, while independents lean against a second Obama term.

    NYT/CBS Poll: 52% Say Obama Moving America Towards Socialism
    Friday, April 16, 2010
    By Matt Cover, Staff Writer

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    “Munch says:
    April 21, 2010 at 9:21 pm
    Karl, You are depriving a village somewhere of its idiot.”

    You could help that village, MunchTurden – just move there.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html#polls

  • Glenn.Bovine.Merrill

    The Fox gNOpig propaganda network is NOTHING ELSE BUT THAT, propaganda.

    Sorry if you arse Fox gNOpig lickers feel offended by the remarks.

    Now, as Jon would say:

    Go f0ck yourselves!
    Go f0ck yourselves!
    Go f0ck yourselves!
    Go f0ck yourselves!
    Go f0ck yourselves!
    Go f0ck yourselves!
    Go f0ck yourselves!
    Go f0ck yourselves!
    Go f0ck yourselves!

  • http://www.youtube.com/cmdrgmh cmdrgmh

    Word to the wise. Never Ever pick a fight with a Comedian. You Will Lose.

  • StewartIII
  • JamesA1102

    JamesA1102- keep repeating: Obama is president, Obama is president!

    I don’t have to repeat it. It is truw whether I repeat it or not.

    BTW, like Jimmy boy,you could NOT refute any of what I posted!

    And you could not refute any of what I posted.

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Friday, April 16, 2010

    The thing with daily tracking polls is that they update everyday. Here’s today’s: http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

  • Munch

    And you could not refute any of what I posted. ”

    What a poll about, guess who> Bush!

    LMAO

  • Munch

    BTW, Jamesa1102- next time use a poll that is POSITIVE for BHO- the Gallup you linked shows he started at 63% approval and is now down to just 49%!

    Not something a President wants to see. His disapproval went from just 13% to a whopping 45%!!!

    Ouch!!!!

  • Munch

    And James , from that Gallup poll you linked, this is what they said about barry’s ratings:

    OBAMA APPROVAL SLIPS FURTHER IN FIFTH QUARTER TO 48.8%
    RANKS AMONG LOWEST FIFTH-QUARTER AVERAGES FOR ELECTED PRESIDENTS
    by Jeffrey M. Jones

    PRINCETON, NJ — President Barack Obama averaged 48.8% job approval for his fifth quarter in office, spanning Jan. 20-April 19 Gallup Daily tracking. That is the lowest of his presidency to date, though not appreciably worse than his 50.8% fourth quarter average.

  • retpitar

    I think that John made the faeces of the same. I don’t like the exchange, and I love John, but to some extent on the hypocrisy of it to come to the view to frame the debate, discussion and humiliation as to be harmful when the platform uses comedy to make political statements. What is more harmful, and provide a picture of what is happening in the political debate or political denigrate all in the name of ‘laughing? Yes, and found it funny, but in some cases as indicated by the respect.
    memory card reader

  • JamesA1102

    OBAMA APPROVAL SLIPS FURTHER IN FIFTH QUARTER TO 48.8%
    RANKS AMONG LOWEST FIFTH-QUARTER AVERAGES FOR ELECTED PRESIDENTS

    And if you read the whole article is says that Ronald Reagan was at 46.3% at the same point in his first term. Didn’t Reagan get re-elected only 2 years later? So I guess polls at this point in a presidency are meaningless. And it doesn’t change the fact that President Obama inherited a mess from Bush.

  • Socrates69

    “Munch says:
    April 22, 2010 at 1:07 am

    PRINCETON, NJ — President Barack Obama averaged 48.8% job approval for his fifth quarter in office, spanning Jan. 20-April 19 Gallup Daily tracking. That is the lowest of his presidency to date, though not appreciably worse than his 50.8% fourth quarter average”

    Why does this statistic even matter? A politician is unpopular for trying push his agenda through the process of legislation…wow haven’t ever seen that in this country before.

    Ok, Munch you’ve spewed your facts, and you’ve demolished the other arguments (theoretically). So whats your next logical solution to the supposed problems of unemployment and national debt? Take back your country by voting in candidates more sympathetic to your views? What happens when they don’t take positions that you disagree with? Are they then part of the leftie conspiracy? Or will they never make a decision you disagree with? And back to the main part of the story…I don’t care if Jon Stewart is a comedian and uses his show as vehicle. Do you think he hides his views on politics? Is he being deceitful in his coverage? Did his point about Goldberg and Fox News have no validity? He called them out. Good. Can he be criticized, absolutely. I think he would at least be willing to admit his views are biased.

  • Munch

    James-And if you read the whole article is says that Ronald Reagan was at 46.3% at the same point in his first term.”

    James keep repeating:Obama is president, Obama is president!

    Oh, Socrates:So whats your next logical solution to the supposed problems of unemployment and national debt?”

    Sorry, troll, I didn’t run for president, BHO did. When I’m president and CAN implement solutions, I will give ya a clue.

  • Socrates69

    So you comment back with “troll, I didn’t run for president, BHO did. When I’m president and CAN implement solutions, I will give ya a clue”?? So by your own logic you can criticize positions you disagree with, attack them, even the person who has the positions, but choose to offer no alternatives, solutions, or ideas of your own positions? All on the basis that you didn’t run for president. Interesting. Then do you really want to participate in the debate and really find solutions to America’s problems? How can you vote for a candidate of any party if you’ve no idea of the fixes or solutions you think might work? Or let me make it real simple…if everything this President is doing is wrong, what is the right?

  • JamesA1102

    James keep repeating:Obama is president, Obama is president!

    Don’t need to repeat it. It is a fact. Just as it is a fact that President Obama inherited a mess from Bush.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Mangan/100000213524770 David Mangan

    No the disaster was created by the Bush administration.

    Actually, it was started by the Clinton Administration which used the CRA to force banks to make bad mortgage loans to customers who couldn’t qualify, or else face the wrath of ACORN lawyers like Barack Hussein Obama, who cut his socialist teeth working to destroy the banking system in the ’90s.

  • JamesA1102

    Actually, it was started by the Clinton Administration which used the CRA to force banks to make bad mortgage loans to customers who couldn’t qualify, or else face the wrath of ACORN lawyers like Barack Hussein Obama, who cut his socialist teeth working to destroy the banking system in the ’90s.

    I think you could make an arguement that Clinton bears some responsibilty by repealing Glass-Stegal but the rest of your statement is pure fiction.

    First, CRA loans were a small percentage of all subprime loans: http://www.traigerlaw.com/publications/addendum_to_traiger_hinckley_llp_cra_foreclosure_study_1-14-08.pdf#page=2

    Second, President Obama was never a lawyer for ACORN.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Keith-Mackenzie/14215574 Keith Mackenzie

    The reason so many left leaning people can’t stand Fox News isn’t that they’re a conservative news network. I personally would love to have a channel I could turn to that honestly put forth the position of the GOP or the tea partiers or the libertarians. What bothers people about Fox is that they cling to that slogan and continue to hold themselves out as an objective, middle of the road, no spin, no bull news network.

    Everyone, including their viewers, know it has to be in their mission statement and part of their editorial philosophy to appeal to right leaning viewers; which is fine. Jon Stewart openly talks about having progressive views and not being fair, etc., on his show, which is also fine.

    ‘Disingenuous’ is the best word Stewart used to describe the network. If you walk like a duck and talk like a duck, have the nerve and the respect for your own viewers’ intelligence to call yourself a duck…. Which is not to say MSNBC is any better. They directly copied the Fox News blueprint. It’s terrible that in America you have to turn on the BBC, or read all of your news online, to get raw news that hasn’t been disingenuously over editorialized.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Keith-Mackenzie/14215574 Keith Mackenzie

    And on the one hand, it isn’t a big deal that they don’t admit they’re a conservative news network. After all, everyone knows it. But… I’m a white guy… If I had a news show where I insisted to the camera that I was black, day in and day out, and everyone else on my news network referred to me as a black man, any self-respecting viewer would say “I can’t get my news from this guy. He obviously doesn’t take what he does seriously. He obviously has some reason for insisting that he isn’t white, and he isn’t being up front about it. I need to look somewhere else for my news.”

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