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Chris Matthews Challenges George Pataki To Denounce Rush Limbaugh

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On yesterday’s Hardball, host Chris Matthews, upset with what he perceived to be the right-wing desire to blame President Barack Obama for things over which he has little control, had former New York governor George Pataki on to explain the mentality of the “blame Obama first” crowd. Pataki felt the Obama administration could be doing more to prevent terrorism before it happens rather than fighting it when it does, but Matthews didn’t just want him to defend his ideas, he wanted him to defend or renounce the ideas of Rush Limbaugh, too.

Matthews asked Pataki if he thought the work the NYPD had done in catching failed terrorist Faisal Shahzad was not good enough, which Pataki denied, and only added that “what the government needs to do more of is prevent these terrorists from getting so close in the first place,” not just catch them when they’ve committed a terrorist act. Then Matthews asked him about comments made some on the right that Obama should be working to prevent people like Shahzad and the failed Christmas Day bomber from traveling, to which Pataki again replied that there was a failure in keeping both of these people off of planes despite being on the no-fly list.

The thing that Matthews was most infuriated by, however, seemed to be a claim from Rush Limbaugh that Shahzad was a registered Democrat. “Where does your side get this nonsense?” he asked Pataki. “I can’t find anyone center, center-right, or right who will take on this guy Limbaugh.” Pataki then “took on this guy Limbaugh” and distanced himself from those comments, but Matthews continued, “does it matter that you’ve got someone on your side of the political world that is out there accusing a bomber of being a Democrat, like he’s on assignment from the Democratic central committee? I mean, this kind of talk is so alien to America”

“It’s not really,” Pataki replied, “You just have to watch some of your colleagues on MSNBC.”

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  • MichelleF

    I was watching yesterday and you left out the part I hoped you would include. Now this doesn’t surprise me, because it showed what a total hypocrit Matthews is in his outrage of conservatives. Here is a copy of the email I sent to you guys at mediaite in hopes you would do you job. Too bad you cherry picked the part you wanted to talk about and skipped over the other part all together.

    Hi All,
    I was just watching the Chris Matthew’s show (which btw is extremely painful), and I would love for you to call him out on his blatant hypocrisy. He had on George Pataki and was making a huge deal AGAIN about Rush calling it the Obama regime when in fact MSNBC made it a habit of calling it the Bush regime. Now I know we’ve had our differences, but isn’t this right up your alley?

    I look forward to your piece.

    MichelleF

    ps, to help you out, here is a video montage that newsbusters posted a while back on this subject.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2010/04/12/video-liberals-msnbc-loved-using-term-bush-regime

  • badr

    So sad that this is what Mr. Thrill Up His Legs has come to, never mind the folks on his own station, ala Schuster, Abrams, Brewer, Olberman, Schultz, Mathews.

  • timzank

    ““It’s not really,” Pataki replied, “You just have to watch some of your colleagues on MSNBC.”

    Game.Set.Match.

    Well played Mr. Pataki.

  • TfT

    Chris is such a hypocrite. Having a hissy fit over the word “regime” when he himself and all his colleagues used it in reference to the Bush administration. MSNBC is in meltdown mode. The spitter truly is an imbecile.

  • MichelleF

    And please don’t make me put together my own montage of them bashing Bush at every corner. His selective outrage is actually quite funny. It’s like he can’t even remember the Bush years and what was said about him.

  • Toshiba2
  • SteveMG

    If Rush Limbaugh were to retire from talk radio today, civility in our public discourse would increase by at least 50% if not more. No one in this country has done more to poison political talk than him. He is just absurd sometimes (more than sometimes). And ugly the rest of the time. Good riddance, I say.

    There: I showed my political bona fides.

    But this tactic by MSNBC to try and force Republican officials to denounce any and every stupid and ugly thing Limbaugh says (as I said, quite a lengthy list) is so transparent and phony it’s risible. The folks at MSNBC aren’t concerned about poisonous talk. Good grief, they’re marketing that type of discourse.

    Really, Matthews, clean up your own yard before complaining about the trash in other yards.

  • Ted

    I don’t think Limbaugh or his sheep will notice that while taking a shot at msnbc, Pataki also took a shot at Limbaugh. So I would agree with timzank; nicely done.

  • felixw

    Hey Chris, if Pataki wanted to disavow extremists in the media, he wouldn’t have agreed to appear on MSNBC in the first place.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    All republicans should keep their mouth shut when some nut CLAIMS he is quoting Rush. They should say that I have not heard what he said and I certainly will not take the word of someone that lies about what he says ALL the time. Rush deals in sarcasim and making fun of people like Matthews and the way they report the news. Rush was making fun of the way the newsmedia always tries to find a link to republicans or the tea party to any bad event that happens. It was very funny except to the liberals like Matthews.

  • MichelleF

    Of course he did Ted. But I notice you don’t refute what a hypocrite Chris is.

  • MichelleF

    Agreed Gordon. If you watch Chris’ show, that’s all he does when talking to republicans. If I were on there I would just come armed with rebuttals that show his hypocrisy.

  • Ted

    Michelle- you seem to be coming around; good for you!!

    I always get a good laugh when the Limbaugh sheep, like Gordo for instance, talks about some nut quoting Rush. Newsflash Gordo; Rush is a nut, a tea-bagger, a college drop out, a buffoon if you will.

    But I agree in part with what you said; before making complete asses of themselves, all Republicans and tea-bag types in particular should indeed keep their mouths shut. It just seems to work out better if they do. Good luck with that Gordo!!

  • MichelleF

    Ted says:
    May 8, 2010 at 4:49 pm
    Michelle- you seem to be coming around; good for you!!

    Not following your logic on that one, Ted.

  • shearwater

    Rush Limbaugh has expert political analysis of the Obama Administration. Chris Matthews is just trying to demonstrate that he is more liberal in berating Rush than any of his colleagues in the liberal drive by media. These people on the left are very strongly ideologically driven as is Chris Matthews. They won’t even take to time to analyze Rush and the wisdom he shares with the rest of us. What I don’t like about the drive by media is that they have reconfigured the news as entertainment rather than news and this is where they went wrong around 1970, when NBC changed its broadcast format to present news as entertainment.

  • MichelleF

    And Monday Rush will have a field day with Matthew’s so tune in. I would LOVE a debate between those 2. Rush would clean his clock.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Poor ignorant Ted, you always prove that you don’t have any idea what you are talking about. You are the one mouthing lib talking points. Most of what is reported about Rush is outright lies.
    Harry Truman did not graduate from college, what does that prove?
    Most of the college grads I know don’t make $30 million a year. How about you Ted?
    Have YOU ever done ANYTHING Ted? Are you an underpaid English teacher?
    Have you ever run a political campaign Ted? I have.
    Have you ever been an aide to an elected official? I have.
    Have you ever been invited to the White House Ted? I am not talking about “give us $5,000 and we will let you come to dinner at the White House.” I am talking about, “We invite you to the White House and we will pay your way.” invitation. I have.
    Have you ever batted against a major league pitcher in a major league park Ted? I have.
    Have you ever been an invited guest on a show on a major television station Ted. I have.
    Have you ever been selected as “Citizen of the Year” Ted. I have.
    Have you ever been president or vice president of a business association or club Ted? I have.
    Have you ever done anything Ted, other than shoot off your ignorant mouth?

  • Teabagger

    Wow, your mom must be really proud of you Gordo.

    I know I sure am impressed…. in a Rush kinda way.

  • Averreauxii

    Matthews let Pataki get away saying a lot of BS – it drove me nuts watching that. Matthews does this stuff for a living. He should always have his facts in front of him. He should have reminded Pataki that economists both on the right and left have said the stimulus worked. He should have reminded Pataki of the TAX CUTS (1/3 of total cost) in the stimulus. He should have refuted Pataki’s claims of “higher taxes” from the HCR with the numbers Pataki used. Non-partisan CBO has numbers for reference. When Pataki asks him whether Chris is for _______________ as related to terrorists, he simply should have deferred to the US constitution and supreme court decisions. He should know these by name by now. If the supreme court has ruled that terrorists can challenge their detention, that is the law and it does not matter whether if polls 10% amongst the general public. This is not 24 where Jack Bauer gets to make his rules and has a direct line with the potus. The constitution also applies to terrorists. I was in stitches listening to conservatives talking about not wanting to mirandize another US citizen….as if those rights are given to the citizen by the Govt. As if not giving a Miranda warning takes away the arrested suspect’s miranda rights. I was in stitches when a conservative lawmaker or aspirant just last week talked about deporting all “anchor babies.” Who cares about the 14th amendment when you want to get rid of those “Mexicans” right? I was in stitches when some conservatives supported a bill that would administratively strip an American off his citizenship. Shrug.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Teabagged, was anyone talking to you?

  • http://none pyrope

    Since Matthews has little-to-zero credibility he is looking to get some support from someone he thinks does.

  • MichelleF
  • Ted

    Gordo, I could not care less about your fantasy life. I do know this; you swallow whatever Limbaugh, Beck et al feed you without question and regurgitate. Swallow – regurgitate – repeat cycle. You Gordo, are a buffoon and it shows.

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  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Ted, YOU don’t know anything and it shows. Nobody has to listen to Rush or Beck to regurgitate the truth. It takes a fool like you to regurgitate lies. Oh, by the way you did not answer my question. Have you ever done anything Ted?

  • JamesA1102

    And economist on the left and right say it didn’t work.

    No they don’t. Most of those links were from last year, one from February of 2009 when the plan was just passed. And the most recent one is misleading headline. The members of the National Association for Business Economics are not economists, some may be but most are not.

    As far as what real Economists have said, they think the stimulus plan didn’t go far enough:
    http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2010-01-25-usa-today-economic-survey-obama-stimulus_N.htm

  • MichelleF

    You prove my point, James. You can always find someone to agree with you. Do you see proof in the unemployment numbers that it’s worked? I sure don’t.

  • MichelleF

    http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/26/news/economy/NABE_survey/

    And James, this one is from April 26, 2010

  • MichelleF

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    I’d say they are fairly knowledgeable in the area of economics.

  • writer

    I think Pataki nailed it. Chris is outraged over Limbaugh’s rhetoric? Has he never listened to Keith Olbermann?

  • drex94

    Hasnt that hot air balloon Windbaugh been Denounced enough already. Hmmmmm……naw ur right ….he needs more.. lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Durffee/1311278663 Ed Durffee

    Dont it feel good to watch these pathetic long time whining and always denigrating Bush, Rush, and every one else they are so afraid of in this country, squirm and twist in the wind, If you cant take the heat then you should have kept your mouth shut and followed a diff line of work.

  • Penguin60

    “all Republicans and tea-bag types in particular should indeed keep their mouths shut. It just seems to work out better if they do.”

    Spoken like a true barry zombie. Hey the cleaners called, your Brown Shirts are ready for pick-up.

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