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Fox’s Eric Bolling And Lansing, MI Mayor Go At It With Dueling Union Salary Stats

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In the first half of the week subsequent to Glenn Beck‘s big goodbye announcement off, Judge Andrew Napolitano brought a lighter version of his libertarian FBN show Freedom Watch to the hour. For those wondering what the other possible flavor of 5PM could be, Follow the Money host Eric Bolling gave us a taste today with a fiery debate against Lansing, MI mayor Virg Bernero replete with Google references and accusations of supporting Chinese-style economics.

For those that have yet been exposed to Bolling on Fox Business or his Saturday morning economics programs, he’s not one to back down from a loud debate, and often prefers the more traditional cable news model of people with dramatically different political views digging deeply at each other (as opposed to the more recently-developed approach of guests with similar views reinforcing each other’s points calmly). Mayor Bernero, a union supporter who appeared to have little use for Wall Street or major government economic intrusion against labor, apparently was not afraid of sticking sharply to his points, either. Bernero, beginning the discussion highlighting the importance of collective bargaining rights, argued that the union right to collective bargaining was critical for the health of the Michigan economy. Bolling’s retort to that argument was, essentially, to ask what health of the Michigan economy? “Government workers have four times the benefits and almost double the salary” of their counterparts, Bolling argued, a claim that Bernero described as “not true at all” and, in fact, “when you compare apples to apples, it is indeed the same.”

“You’re misleading the public,” Bolling snapped back, repeating his prior numbers, which eventually got Bernero to abandon that line of attack and instead point out that “Lansing is struggling… because of the manufacturing that your buddies sent overseas.” Large corporations, Bernero claimed, “went overseas because they could make more money and because they lacked patriotism.” He then challenged Bolling to “Google” the claim that “when unions were at their strongest in the ’50s and ’60s, everyone else was doing better.” Bolling responded with a simple question: “are there unions in China?”

Ultimately the debate returned to the statistic that federal workers make almost twice as much as their analogs in the private sector, with both sides claiming the other’s statistic was false. It’s quite the lively debate, and gets to the core of the conservative problem with the union issue to begin with– the government competing as if it were a private corporation itself for the same pool of employees as proper businesses.



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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Bolling got called out for the liar he is. I watched this live, and was glad to see someone refuse to allow the GOP talking points to be shoveled out yet again.

  • Bobomatic

    This mayor is the poster child to what’s wrong with public labor in America and the thuggery of unions. This kind of thought is outdated and and the ultimate in lazy, uncreative thinking.

  • AmeriCuda

    Would someone please create a new ‘Union Thug’ drinking game so we can all take a shot every time this goon says ‘The Workin’ man’

  • turk281

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Bolling got called out for the liar he is. I watched this live, and was glad to see someone refuse to allow the GOP talking points to be shoveled out yet again.

    Haha. Detroit has been under Democrat control since 1962! They’re doing a great job!

    BTW, sometimes subjects are talking points because they’re true. Government workers have been earning twice the amount of private sector workers since around 2008:
    http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-08-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm

    From the article:

    •Benefits. Federal workers received average benefits worth $41,791 in 2009. Most of this was the government’s contribution to pensions. Employees contributed an additional $10,569.

    •Pay. The average federal salary has grown 33% faster than inflation since 2000. USA TODAY reported in March that the federal government pays an average of 20% more than private firms for comparable occupations. The analysis did not consider differences in experience and education.

    •Total compensation. Federal compensation has grown 36.9% since 2000 after adjusting for inflation, compared with 8.8% for private workers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    Bobomatic said:
    This mayor is the poster child to what’s wrong with public labor in America and the thuggery of unions. This kind of thought is outdated and and the ultimate in lazy, uncreative thinking.

    I sure hope you don’t need a fireman or a police officer any time soon.
    And that you don’t need sewers or streets, garbage collectors or emergency rooms’
    Cause, when you do, those THUGS might not be there.
    I pity the fool who spawned you.

  • tatboy

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Bolling got called out for the liar he is. I watched this live, and was glad to see someone refuse to allow the GOP talking points to be shoveled out yet again.

    You can have your own opinion… but not your own facts. Detroit was destroyed by the Dems/union machine and it’s moto’s of “I’d rather see the company go under than not get what I want”. And “If I don’t get what I want I’ll ruin the company so NO ONE gets the job”. Or… “I’d rather have no job at all than a non-union job”. “Long live Joe Hill!”

  • turk281

    Joseph Glackin said:
    I sure hope you don’t need a fireman or a police officer any time soon.
    And that you don’t need sewers or streets, garbage collectors or emergency rooms’
    Cause, when you do, those THUGS might not be there.
    I pity the fool who spawned you.

    I hope that the next time there’s a blizzard, city workers don’t strike:

    2 people died in NYC blizzard because city workers delayed snow clean up to protest wage cuts:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/ny-snow-plows-protest-budget-cuts-2010-12

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    turk281 said:
    Haha. Detroit has been under Democrat control since 1962! They’re doing a great job!

    BTW, sometimes subjects are talking points because they’re true. Government workers have been earning twice the amount of private sector workers since around 2008:
    http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-08-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm

    From the article:

    •Benefits. Federal workers received average benefits worth $41,791 in 2009. Most of this was the government’s contribution to pensions. Employees contributed an additional $10,569.

    •Pay. The average federal salary has grown 33% faster than inflation since 2000. USA TODAY reported in March that the federal government pays an average of 20% more than private firms for comparable occupations. The analysis did not consider differences in experience and education.

    •Total compensation. Federal compensation has grown 36.9% since 2000 after adjusting for inflation, compared with 8.8% for private workers.

    Since 1995, inflation has gone up 35%.
    Federal employees receive COLA pay raises, which is often their only raise.
    Is what you are saying that private sector employees have been CHEATED by management?
    Because YOUR FIGURES say that they have lost 26.2% under the Bush Regime.

  • tatboy

    Joseph Glackin said:
    I sure hope you don’t need a fireman or a police officer any time soon.And that you don’t need sewers or streets, garbage collectors or emergency rooms’Cause, when you do, those THUGS might not be there.I pity the fool who spawned you.

    I hope for a day they are not union protected workers, but in fact workers who EARN thier job. Maybe so many innocent people are shot by police because they know their union has their back.

    PS… I work in the medical field and people are born, not “spawned”. Moron.

  • tatboy

    turk281 said:
    I hope that the next time there’s a blizzard, city workers don’t strike: 2 people died in NYC blizzard because city workers delayed snow clean up to protest wage cuts: http://www.businessinsider.com/ny-snow-plows-protest-budget-cuts-2010-12

    BINGO… Check and Mate! Union slowdown kills NY residents. And no one can touch them cuz their “union”. Good one.

  • Bobomatic

    Joseph Glackin said:
    I sure hope you don’t need a fireman or a police officer any time soon.
    And that you don’t need sewers or streets, garbage collectors or emergency rooms’
    Cause, when you do, those THUGS might not be there.
    I pity the fool who spawned you.

    Your a mindless liberal puke… and when Joe Employer can’t afford to hire anybody because he’s got to pay for the unsustainable public union benefits, when no one hires because of the exorbitant cost of doing business in Michigan or other pro union states, I pity you. History bears this out… but your too effing’ stupid to learn the lesson. Going through life is hard enough… it’s even harder when your effing stupid.

  • turk281

    “When school children start paying union dues, that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of school children.”

    -Albert Shanker, former president American Federation of Teachers for over 20 years

  • tatboy

    Turk 182… great move BTW.

  • turk281

    tatboy said:
    Turk 182… great move BTW.

    Thanks. It amazes me how people get duped into defending big government.

    Private unions are one thing, but unions who’s workers are paid by the government is a whole other monster. I live in NJ, so I’ve seen first hand how cowardly lawmakers pay off special interest(unions) by promising huge amounts of money. And I’m glad we have Christy sticking up to these bullies.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    tatboy said:
    You can have your own opinion… but not your own facts. Detroit was destroyed by the Dems/union machine and it’s moto’s of “I’d rather see the company go under than not get what I want”. And “If I don’t get what I want I’ll ruin the company so NO ONE gets the job”. Or… “I’d rather have no job at all than a non-union job”. “Long live Joe Hill!”

    Was it the unions who moved assembly plants to Mexico?
    Ford paid the unheard of sum of $5.00 a day to the men building the Model T.
    He said, “I want my workers to buy my cars.”
    Today, business says, “I want to squeeze out every nickel I can.”
    Unions didn’t destroy Detroit, Ford and GM did.
    Nothing personal, it was just business.

    P.S. Joe Hill was framed and murdered by a firing squad for organizing miners. The industry is still killing them.
    Nothing personal, just business.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    tatboy said:
    I hope for a day they are not union protected workers, but in fact workers who EARN thier job. Maybe so many innocent people are shot by police because they know their union has their back.

    PS… I work in the medical field and people are born, not “spawned”. Moron.

    Who mentioned “people”? I was talking about you.

  • tatboy

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Was it the unions who moved assembly plants to Mexico?Ford paid the unheard of sum of $5.00 a day to the men building the Model T.He said, “I want my workers to buy my cars.”Today, business says, “I want to squeeze out every nickel I can.”Unions didn’t destroy Detroit, Ford and GM did.Nothing personal, it was just business. P.S. Joe Hill was framed and murdered by a firing squad for organizing miners. The industry is still killing them.Nothing personal, just business.

    Framed??? Really??? So how did that bullet get in him???

  • tatboy

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Who mentioned “people”? I was talking about you.

    Actually you were addressing Bobomatic. Moron.

  • turk281

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Was it the unions who moved assembly plants to Mexico?
    Ford paid the unheard of sum of $5.00 a day to the men building the Model T.
    He said, “I want my workers to buy my cars.”
    Today, business says, “I want to squeeze out every nickel I can.”
    Unions didn’t destroy Detroit, Ford and GM did.
    Nothing personal, it was just business.

    P.S. Joe Hill was framed and murdered by a firing squad for organizing miners. The industry is still killing them.
    Nothing personal, just business.

    Car factories are thriving down South in right to work states! Non union workers get paid fine and their companies don’t need Bailouts to keep them afloat.

    Where do you get the idea that businesses have a moral obligation to people? Businesses exist to make money. You don’t understand economics

    Even overseas car manufacturers like Toyota, Honda, and Hyundai have tens of thousands of American workers making the cars.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    turk281 said:
    Thanks. It amazes me how people get duped into defending big government.

    Private unions are one thing, but unions who’s workers are paid by the government is a whole other monster. I live in NJ, so I’ve seen first hand how cowardly lawmakers pay off special interest(unions) by promising huge amounts of money. And I’m glad we have Christy sticking up to these bullies.

    NJ? “HUGE” amounts of money? What is the starting salary for a teacher in the Garden State?
    How does $36K sound? With a Bachelor’s Degree and Teacher Certification? And you have to get your Master’s within 5 years, WHILE working.
    You do have your Tony Soprano wannabe in Trenton. I hear he went after a 76 year old woman today.
    Your hero.

  • tatboy

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Was it the unions who moved assembly plants to Mexico?Ford paid the unheard of sum of $5.00 a day to the men building the Model T.He said, “I want my workers to buy my cars.”Today, business says, “I want to squeeze out every nickel I can.”Unions didn’t destroy Detroit, Ford and GM did.Nothing personal, it was just business. P.S. Joe Hill was framed and murdered by a firing squad for organizing miners. The industry is still killing them.Nothing personal, just business.

    #1 Yes, union pay got too high so they went to where it is cheaper. It’s call economics. They teach it at school.
    #2 Dems run Detriot. Union Detroit is dying while “south” Detroit is doing just fine :). “South” Detroit didn’t need a govt. handout/welfare to stay in buisness. “South” detroit didn’t go to the govt. with it’s hand out like a street begger asking for welfare… union Detroit did.

    Those lazy union Detroit workers are the reason I have 2 Hondas that I can depend on to go 200,000 to 300,000 miles. While my PT Cruizer (withh it’s crappy build quality) died at 73,235 miles. I guess mine was built by those same jackholes (that we bailed out) that were drinking and smokeing pot on their union mandated hour break.

  • turk281

    Joseph Glackin said:
    NJ? “HUGE” amounts of money? What is the starting salary for a teacher in the Garden State?
    How does $36K sound? With a Bachelor’s Degree and Teacher Certification? And you have to get your Master’s within 5 years, WHILE working.
    You do have your Tony Soprano wannabe in Trenton. I hear he went after a 76 year old woman today.
    Your hero.

    The average Teacher salary in NJ is $66,597, that’s according to the NJEA themselves! Once they achieve tenure they can not be fired. No matter how crappy they are.

    Not to mention their pensions and the fact that they have summers off. Not a bad deal.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    turk281 said:
    Car factories are thriving down South in right to work states! Non union workers get paid fine and their companies don’t need Bailouts to keep them afloat.

    Where do you get the idea that businesses have a moral obligation to people? Businesses exist to make money. You don’t understand economics

    Even overseas car manufacturers like Toyota, Honda, and Hyundai have tens of thousands of American workers making the cars.

    Want a job down there? No health insurance. No pension. PO the boss and out you go.
    I lived in the South. Business used to pit the rednecks against the blacks. They would tell you, “Step out of line, and we’ll hire a n#gg#r for 50 cents an hour less.”
    As I said, nothing personal, just business.
    I understand economics. And people. If business is not a part of society, it has no place there.

  • turk281

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Want a job down there? No health insurance. No pension. PO the boss and out you go.
    I lived in the South. Business used to pit the rednecks against the blacks. They would tell you, “Step out of line, and we’ll hire a n#gg#r for 50 cents an hour less.”
    As I said, nothing personal, just business.
    I understand economics. And people. If business is not a part of society, it has no place there.

    I’m done replying to you. Everything you’ve posted has been factually inaccurate. In fact, it’s been made up. Everyone of the car companies down South offer benefits with the job. Every one!

    You were wrong about the federal salaries, wrong about NJ teacher salaries, and wrong about the benefits of car manufacturers.

    There’s a useful tool called Google. Try it before you make your arguments.

  • tatboy

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Nothing personal, just business.

    Stop quoting “Pirates of the Caribbean”. You ruining one of my fav movies.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    turk281 said:
    The average Teacher salary in NJ is $66,597, that’s according to the NJEA themselves! Once they achieve tenure they can not be fired. No matter how crappy they are.

    Not to mention their pensions and the fact that they have summers off. Not a bad deal.

    teacherportal.com/salary/new jersey
    Two months off, unless you work summer school. Then, it’s two weeks. And you have to get those 32 credits for your Master’s.
    Even accepting your “average”, that’s about $33/hr.
    Any teacher can always be fired for “Cause”. If you don’t believe that, get a job there and get caught shagging a fifteen year old on your desk.
    When a dipsh#t with an MBA can start at $80K, teachers are underpaid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Glackin/100000892011713 Joseph Glackin

    turk281 said:
    I’m done replying to you. Everything you’ve posted has been factually inaccurate. In fact, it’s been made up. Everyone of the car companies down South offer benefits with the job. Every one!

    You were wrong about the federal salaries, wrong about NJ teacher salaries, and wrong about the benefits of car manufacturers.

    There’s a useful tool called Google. Try it before you make your arguments.

    Google gave me the numbers I quoted.
    I know the Fed. salaries, I was a Fed. employee.
    I gave you the link to NJ teacher salaries. It is a guide for students entering the field.
    Sorry you don’t accept being corrected. Must have been a b#tch toilet training you.
    Learned yet?

  • jo hoochie

    turk281 said:
    I’m done replying to you. Everything you’ve posted has been factually inaccurate. In fact, it’s been made up. Everyone of the car companies down South offer benefits with the job. Every one! You were wrong about the federal salaries, wrong about NJ teacher salaries, and wrong about the benefits of car manufacturers. There’s a useful tool called Google. Try it before you make your arguments.

    You and tatboy prove a BIG point here, the far left lie and the union are thugs!! Look what they tried to do to some little old lady, I forget where she was from, but they tried to shut her down because she didn’t support the union!! My neice works for a car company in the south and she gets benefits and makes a really nice living. Only the left can come up with these lies and Obama is in bed with these Big Union Thugs and that should say something about his character!!

  • cjd ohio 1

    Joseph Glackin said:
    teacherportal.com/salary/new jerseyTwo months off, unless you work summer school. Then, it’s two weeks. And you have to get those 32 credits for your Master’s.Even accepting your “average”, that’s about $33/hr.Any teacher can always be fired for “Cause”. If you don’t believe that, get a job there and get caught shagging a fifteen year old on your desk.When a dipsh#t with an MBA can start at $80K, teachers are underpaid.

    you dont have to get a masters, start salary 38,408

  • jdubbellu

    hmmm check the 8th name on the list http://www.dc47afscme.org/local_2186/default.htm might explain why joey has the worlds largest vag…

  • turk281

    Joseph Glackin said:
    teacherportal.com/salary/new jersey

    Your own link (outdated, btw) gives NJ average teacher salary as $58,156 with a 19.3% pay raise over 10 years. This is also 2006 data.

    C’mon, Joseph. I have fun arguing with you, but check your own links.

    http://teacherportal.com/salary/New-Jersey-teacher-salary

  • George C

    Joseph Glackin said:
    Two months off, unless you work summer school. Then, it’s two weeks. And you have to get those 32 credits for your Master’s.
    Even accepting your “average”, that’s about $33/hr.
    Any teacher can always be fired for “Cause”. If you don’t believe that, get a job there and get caught shagging a fifteen year old on your desk.
    When a dipsh#t with an MBA can start at $80K, teachers are underpaid.

    Uh oh, fifteen minutes to Judge Wapner. Yeah.

  • RichRepublican

    Who cares about the Left and their Unions! We’ve already won this battle. We have all the money. It is simply about attrition at this point and we can easily out last them.

  • cjd ohio 1

    RichRepublican said:
    Who cares about the Left and their Unions! We’ve already won this battle. We have all the money. It is simply about attrition at this point and we can easily out last them.

    shut up, plant

  • turk281

    RichRepublican said:
    Who cares about the Left and their Unions! We’ve already won this battle. We have all the money. It is simply about attrition at this point and we can easily out last them.

    It figures people like you think wealth is a finite thing. One pie right?

    You know what the difference between a rich Republican and a rich Democrat?

    Rich Democrats are usually born into wealth. High taxes don’t touch trust funds. High taxes don’t touch wealth already amassed, just wealth being made- in other words – productive people making useful things that creates jobs that puts money into both the market, and the government.

  • RichRepublican

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    shut up, plant

    What are you trying to say? What I’ve said isn’t true? And who made you the comment Police?

  • cjd ohio 1

    RichRepublican said:
    Who cares about the Left and their Unions! We’ve already won this battle. We have all the money. It is simply about attrition at this point and we can easily out last them.

    RichRepublican said:
    What are you trying to say? What I’ve said isn’t true? And who made you the comment Police?

    shut up was wrong on my part, but you represent the worst of people

  • RichRepublican

    turk281 said:
    It figures people like you think wealth is a finite thing. One pie right?

    You know what the difference between a rich Republican and a rich Democrat?

    Rich Democrats are usually born into wealth. High taxes don’t touch trust funds. High taxes don’t touch wealth already amassed, just wealth being made- in other words – productive people making useful things that creates jobs that puts money into both the market, and the government.

    What point were you trying to make?

    Actually, I was born into wealth and I do have people that work for me. That has nothing to do with business. If the people who work for me aren’t happy I just get rid of them and hire someone else. This is the way it works. Don’t bore me with this Union stuff. I’ve been down that road before and we just figure out ways around it.

  • RichRepublican

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    shut up was wrong on my part, but you represent the worst of people

    Really? How can you even say that? I’m in complete agreement Eric Bolling in this article. From what I’ve seen in your posts, you are in agreement too.

  • RichRepublican

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    but you represent the worst of people

    Also, What does this mean?

  • cjd ohio 1

    RichRepublican said:
    Really? How can you even say that? I’m in complete agreement Eric Bolling in this article. From what I’ve seen in your posts, you are in agreement too.

    nice try, but you will have to hire someone to read to you and then explain the meaning, it seems all the money you have was not spent on a education

  • cjd ohio 1

    RichRepublican said:
    Also, What does this mean?

    it means you are a bad human being

  • turk281

    RichRepublican said:
    What point were you trying to make?

    Actually, I was born into wealth and I do have people that work for me. That has nothing to do with business. If the people who work for me aren’t happy I just get rid of them and hire someone else. This is the way it works. Don’t bore me with this Union stuff. I’ve been down that road before and we just figure out ways around it.

    Sharp insight there! Did you read that off of the back of a Moby CD? Pamphlet handed to you on earth day? A Ban Trans fat hunger strike? A speech at a Phish concert?

  • RichRepublican

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    nice try, but you will have to hire someone to read to you and then explain the meaning, it seems all the money you have was not spent on a education

    Yes. I did make a mistake and dropped the preposition with that sentence as I was trying to be clever by cutting and pasting Eric Bollings name as to not misspell it.

    That being said I’ve been reading a lot of the comment boards in the last couple hours and I don’t think you’re in any postion to call me a ‘bad human being’ after some of the things that I’ve seen you posted here. I actually agree with most of what you say as well so what does that say?

  • RichRepublican

    turk281 said:
    Sharp insight there! Did you read that off of the back of a Moby CD? Pamphlet handed to you on earth day? A Ban Trans fat hunger strike? A speech at a Phish concert?

    What does that even mean?

    Aren’t you like a “Punk Rock” Libertarian or something like that? Why don’t you just say what you mean and stop being so ‘politically correct’.

  • Barack Must Go

    Hey Virg…….GOOGLE THIS !!!!!!!

    Typical lib. Reality has no place in his world.

  • turk281

    RichRepublican said:
    What does that even mean?

    Aren’t you like a “Punk Rock” Libertarian or something like that? Why don’t you just say what you mean and stop being so ‘politically correct’.

    Drum circle? Noam Chomsky fan club? Dialogue from an episode of Whale Wars? Sensitivity Training Classes? A poem under a Bob Marley poster in a cute chicks dorm room? Parking lot of a Rusted Root concert? American Idiot the Musical on Broadway? PMRC co founder Tipper Gore’s book “Raising PG Kids in an X Rated World”?

  • RichRepublican

    turk281 said:
    Drum circle? Noam Chomsky fan club? Dialogue from an episode of Whale Wars? Sensitivity Training Classes? A poem under a Bob Marley poster in a cute chicks dorm room? Parking lot of a Rusted Root concert? American Idiot the Musical on Broadway? PMRC co founder Tipper Gore’s book “Raising PG Kids in an X Rated World”?

    Are these bands on your ‘Record Label’? How’s that working out for you?

    …..Google remembers everything.

  • turk281

    RichRepublican said:
    Are these bands on your ‘Record Label’? How’s that working out for you?

    …..Google remembers everything.

    Gwyneth Paltrow’s memoirs? Barbara Streisand concert? Janine Garofalo stand up routine? George Clooney acceptance speech? Michael Moore’s online fanclub? Kids for Obama parent meeting? Rage Against the Machine acoustic set? Sting’s book on sex after 60? Bootleg Sean Penn/Hugo Chavez conversations remixed with ambient score by the Black Eyed Peas? Oprah Winfrey’s poverty Christmas special? Hands Across America reunion?

  • Yoda002

    turk281 said:
    Your own link (outdated, btw) gives NJ average teacher salary as $58,156 with a 19.3% pay raise over 10 years. This is also 2006 data.

    C’mon, Joseph. I have fun arguing with you, but check your own links.

    http://teacherportal.com/salary/New-Jersey-teacher-salary

    To confuse people the Righties try to make it look like this was accomplished in one year. From 1996 NJ teacher salaries have risen 19.3%. So every year they got an average increase of 1.93%.

    CEO David Neithercut of Equity Residential received $2.96 million in compensation in 2009
    in 2010 CEO Neithercut received $5.82 million in compensation

    A 97% increase in one year.

  • Yoda002

    turk281 said:
    “When school children start paying union dues, that’s when I’ll start representing the interests of school children.”

    -Albert Shanker, former president American Federation of Teachers for over 20 years

    They like to take quotes out of context.

  • turk281

    Yoda002 said:
    To confuse people the Righties try to make it look like this was accomplished in one year. From 1996 NJ teacher salaries have risen 19.3%. So every year they got an average increase of 1.93%.

    CEO David Neithercut of Equity Residential received $2.96 million in compensation in 2009
    in 2010 CEO Neithercut received $5.82 million in compensation

    A 97% increase in one year.

    Who cares? Oprah makes 225 million a year to promote pseudoscience, crash diets, bad books, and bad dating advice…..gimme, gimme, gimme.

  • Yoda002

    turk281 said:
    Who cares? Oprah makes 225 million a year to promote pseudoscience, crash diets, bad books, and bad dating advice…..gimme, gimme, gimme.

    Your going after teachers that make 1.93% increase every year. I just showed you a CEO that went up 97% in one year in a bad economy.

  • Barack Must Go

    turk281 said:
    Gwyneth Paltrow’s memoirs? Barbara Streisand concert? Janine Garofalo stand up routine? George Clooney acceptance speech? Michael Moore’s online fanclub? Kids for Obama parent meeting? Rage Against the Machine acoustic set? Sting’s book on sex after 60? Bootleg Sean Penn/Hugo Chavez conversations remixed with ambient score by the Black Eyed Peas? Oprah Winfrey’s poverty Christmas special? Hands Across America reunion?

    Let’s see if I’m playing the right game….A babies arm holding an apple? Ground contol to Majot Tom? I’m going to Graceland? Can’t touch this?Don’t worry, be happy. I’m so nervous right now. How am I doing so far?

  • turk281

    Yoda002 said:
    Your going after teachers that make 1.93% increase every year. I just showed you a CEO that went up 97% in one year in a bad economy.

    I’m not going after teachers, I’m going after their unions. Teachers deserve merit pay. For every CEO who makes a ton I can show you a 100 teachers in the inner cities who are screwing poor children out of an education and a union which uses it’s power to prevent Charter Schools

    I don’t need to get self righteous and simplistic ideas from Naomi Klein book. I don’t get emotionally blinded to reason by something the guy at the local organic Farmers Market repeats…

  • turk281

    Barack Must Go said:
    Let’s see if I’m playing the right game….A babies arm holding an apple? Ground contol to Majot Tom? I’m going to Graceland? Can’t touch this?Don’t worry, be happy. I’m so nervous right now. How am I doing so far?

    Don’t Worry Be Happy is a perfect fit!

  • Barack Must Go

    turk281 said:
    Don’t Worry Be Happy is a perfect fit!

    Whew…

  • Yoda002

    turk281 said:
    I’m not going after teachers, I’m going after their unions. Teachers deserve merit pay. For every CEO who makes a ton I can show you a 100 teachers in the inner cities who are screwing poor children out of an education and a union which uses it’s power to prevent Charter Schools

    Unions are what keep everyone else pay moving up. Teacher in inner schools is very tough, a lot of the blame can’t be placed on teachers because kids have a tough home life. In every field you will have bad workers, but don’t take a broad brush to all inner city teachers. I have a mixed feelings about Charter schools; it seems like some have done well while others not very well. There seems to be a lot of turnover in Charter Schools.

  • turk281

    Yoda002 said:
    Unions are what keep everyone else pay moving up. Teacher in inner schools is very tough, a lot of the blame can’t be placed on teachers because kids have a tough home life. In every field you will have bad workers, but don’t take a broad brush to all inner city teachers. I have a mixed feelings about Charter schools; it seems like some have done well while others not very well. There seems to be a lot of turnover in Charter Schools.

    We just disagree, Yoda. I don’t have kids. If my tax dollars are going to pay for educating children, I prefer to give parents the choice to send their kids to whichever school will provide the most for their children.

    Especially when the kids are poor, and especially when the private school is cheaper!

  • Yoda002

    turk281 said:
    We just disagree, Yoda. I don’t have kids. If my tax dollars are going to pay for educating children, I prefer to give parents the choice to send their kids to whichever school will provide the most for their children.

    Especially when the kids are poor, and especially when the private school is cheaper!

    Making 1.93% year is not making a killing. Poor communities receive less federal funding. which I believe makes the problem worse. Charter Schools are not really a private school most of the money is from tax payers.

    You have to pay teachers or they will leave the profession. Our country’s education is going downhill while countries like China are increasing getting better. The conservatives want to gut education and I think that is the wrong approach. Where will the next generation of scientist and engineers come from? Catering to the top 2% won’t help.

  • Nacho

    Eric Bolling is a lying Goon that once pulled away from his talking points by facts, FAILS.

    He needs to stick to the business channel where its only about money, because once the issues and facts of the real world are brought into it, he is worthless.

  • More Liberty5

    “Bernero, beginning the discussion highlighting the importance of collective bargaining rights, argued that the union right to collective bargaining was critical for the health of the Michigan economy.”

    That’s really worked out for you Michigan.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sandra-Spaulding/1253512686 Sandra Spaulding

    Eric Bolling vs Virg Bernaro…no contest! Thanks, Eric, for expressing the the other side, the right side, with force, power, and intellect. I’m proud of you.

  • timzank

    Any of you ever been to Lansing? Mayor Bernaro belongs there, it’s a cesspool, and he’s going to make sure it stays a cesspool. He’s old school, just like all the other Mayors & Legislators that helped make Michigan the equivalent of a 3rd world country.

  • andthehorseyourodeinon

    Virg is a total a hole who got his ass handed to him when he ran for governor of Michigan last fall. A union hack who beats one drum UAW UAW. his claim to fame he won a high school debate contest once. BFD

  • Gasket

    Bolling got his ass kicked in that one…LOL.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    You right wingers are HILARIOUS. You have Boling in this segment supporting the godless COMMUNIST CHINA’s industrial/economic system over America…with a straight face. The anti-union, anti-labor, anti-American working man argument from conservatives has gotten so outrageous, they don’t even know how they sound.

    Out of one side of their mouths, they’ll call liberals “socialists”, but out of the other side, argue to support REAL socialism in the form of sweat-shop labor in communist dictatorships?

    Really?

    –Cobra

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