I fail to see how that is insulting since there was in fact alot of looting. Now if they had said everyone was doing it, I could see your point.

There’s no insult. It is the truth. I lived in Dallas during Katrina, and most of the people went there after being evacuated. The images that impacted me the most on the local news were riots for the FEMA debit cards and people yelling, “Where’s MY money!?”

I’m not saying that there was no looting in New Orleans, there’s video evidence of that. I’m saying that it is completely irrelevant to the news story they were presenting. The implication of bringing it up is that the Nashville flood victims are somehow “better” than those of Katrina and other disasters. It’s just an insulting way to handle a tragedy.
They were trying to champion the Tennessee victims, which is a noble cause and I call it as such. But there’s no reason to insult other people in the process. Who are they to make broad generalizations about how one city handled the complete distractions of their homes in comparison to how another city did? And the jovial tone with which they did so just came off as callous.

Without pointing fingers Anderson said something similar on his live show from Nashville:

“The story here is one of a city rising, not a city on its knees. We have seen — and I have got to say, I have never seen an effort by so many volunteers so quickly in the wake of a disaster. We have seen thousands of volunteers, church groups, individuals, neighbors helping neighbors.

It’s — it’s really incredible, and it is a real testament to the strength of this city and the strength of this people. They call it the Volunteer State. And, today and for the last several days, they have shown the world why they deserve that name.”

John, you say “The implication of bringing it up is that the Nashville flood victims are somehow “better” than those of Katrina and other disasters.”

Uh, sorry but yeah, they are better than those of Katrina. It’s not politically correct to point out the sad fact that the victims in Katrina did in fact loot the crap out of their own friends and neighbors and generally acted as though they were entitled to not just emergency help, but “rebuild my whole frickin’ life for me” help.

There is a striking difference in the mindset between a city that just sat there and a city that immediately addressed the crisis and started fixing it their damn self.

I’m shocked, shocked I say that “journalists” with the integrity, the fairness and balance of Douchey and the Gretch should insult the people of New Orleans.

Tim, that may be your opinion that the people of one devastated city are better than that of another. Personally, I think generalizations like that are impossible to make. Do you not agree, though, that it’s a pretty off color and inappropriate statement for news personalities to make on air during an unrelated story?
We can debate all day how well the people of New Orleans or any other city handled their respective disasters. I just think that it was an offensive and irrelevant point for the Fox and Friends gang to make.
A rich television personality implying that anyone who had their entire livelihood wiped out is a “whiner and complainer” just rubs me the wrong way.

I posted this a while bad on another thread:

MichelleF says:
May 7, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Any else noticed the differences between New Orleans after Katrina and the Nashville floods? First off I’m NOT saying they are equal in scale. I’m more observing the reactions of the people. You don’t hear them screaming for the gov’t to save them like in NO. They are in there taking care of themselves. Of course they have alot of help. Even Anderson Cooper is absolutely amazed at the community coming together and churches helping each other out. I think it’s a great analogy between areas run by the mommy states run by dems and the daddy states run and full of rep’s. They are out there doing for themselves, not demanding others do for them. Something to ponder.

I still stand by that statement.

The reason these idiots brought up New Orleans in such in inappropriate way and at an inappropriate time is because New Orleans is 67% Black and Nashville is 66% White and it fits right into the Fox mission statement of dividing this country with with race hate.

Blackie just don’t know how to act compared to Whitey!!

Not only was it unnecessary to compare the two, you can’t.

They are way too many variables in the two situations to reasonably say one group of people acted more appropriately than another.

Just to put in prospective, there were close to 2,000 deaths from Katrina and around 40 due to the Nashville flood.

I agree with Jon’s assertion that it’s perhaps inappropriate for a news personality to make such a comparison, but Fox has claimed that F&F isn’t news.

Of course, I’m not a news personality, so I can make some comparisons by pointing out that many Katrina victims were evacuated prior to the storm or immediately thereafter, so they weren’t in their local locales; A lot of the banking system had been hit, so even those with money didn’t have access to their funds for days and the entire region was hit, so it wasn’t like they could drive up the interstate a few exits to find an operating Home Depot. Not to mention that many of those left in New Orleans didn’t have access to a vehicle and there were no designated dumpsites, so it’s not like they could just borrow their uncle’s F150, clean out the house and then swing by Walmart to pick up a futon on their way home.

I could go on and on listing the differences between the two disasters and their victims, but that’s not really important because it serves no one in the end.

@BFD: Perhaps the racial comparison is the first thing that pops to mind, but if you were to give Fox folks the benefit of the doubt… I’m going to guess that FNC is the highest-rated news network in central Tennessee, so it could also be a bit of patronizing their audience and playing to their pride, something they and MSNBC do on a fairly regular basis.

As usual, you bring up race. I think it has more to do with what party was running things at the time. Dems are used to having having the gov’t do for them so they waited around for the gov’t to save them. Repub’s believe it’s your job to help yourself and those around you and not the gov’t so they just dug in and got to work. You will remember that many in NO refused to leave when told to.

“As usual, you bring up race.”

It was the elephant in the room.

Somebody had to bring it up! lolol

MichelleB, was it 1 conservative talking head that told you to say that or was it a collection? I should go look at what Rush had to said about this.

Michelle F, you are a racist and a hater plain and simple. So the reason that W. and the government basically ignored New Orleans it was because it was the people of New Orleans job to help themselves. Racist, Racist, Racist.

The area that were hit in Nashville were the more up scale neighborhood where the people had the money to do what they had to do.
New Orleans on the other hand, was hit hardest in the communities with more poverty. BIG DIFFERENCE. But Michelle if it was up to you we would just help rich white people and ignore everyone else.

See Scott, I’ve been called a racist so many times on this site, I’m kind of immune to it. I NEVER brought up race, I was talking about political persuastion in both places. Gotta keep that race war alive though, don’t you. It is in fact a FACT that the BLACK mayor of NO didn’t do his job, and neither did the govenor. I know you like to believe it was Bush’s hatred of blacks, but you sound ridiculous when you say that.

You want to make it political MichelleB?

How about the people in Tennesee were able to come together and help each out better due to President Obama’s and FEMA’s quick response to the problem. Unlike Bush.

From Politico.com

“President Obama is battling criticism of his administration’s reaction time to the massive Gulf Coast oil leak. In Tennessee, it’s just the opposite.

Heavy flooding has devastated the state, but Gov. Phil Bredesen couldn’t stop gushing about the president’s help on Thursday.

“FEMA and the White House have been absolutely supportive,” he told reporters on a conference call.

FEMA was quickly on the ground, and on Monday, “the president was on the phone with me before the sun came up,” he said.

Bredesen, a Democrat, said he’s been in regular contact with White House staff. In fact, he had just ended a long conversation with Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

Bredesen, who has weathered his share of tornados and storms as a public official, said that he’s “never seen this kind of response.””

Bredesen, a Democrat

They are right. And as we learned when Harry Reid came out with his “Negro” comment. Its NOT racist when its true. Remember?

I know it’s not “politically correct” to say so, but Fox and Friends are a bunch of retards. Anyone who wants to make political points by judging the victims of the greatest natural disaster in American history really needs to be seriously ashamed of themselves. As of about a week ago, 29 fatalities were known to have been caused by the flash flooding in the region of Tennessee. Katrina left over 1800 known fatalities in its wake. So that’s roughly more than 50 times as many lives lost, and the difference goes well beyond “degree”. People looted in New Orleans because no one was getting food or potable water to them and they were desperate. Bodies were floating by. I’ve experienced flooding in my hometown, and it’s no fun, but years later most of the buildings are still standing. Much of New Orleans was simply wiped from the map, and is gone forever. I seriously doubt that many people were facing real starvation and dehydration in Nashville, as devastating as the floods were.

Sunday, Aug. 28 2005 – 1 Day Prior
8:30 p.m. – An empty Amtrak train leaves New Orleans, with room for several hundred potential evacuees. “We offered the city the opportunity to take evacuees out of harm’s way…The city declined,” said Amtrak spokesman Cliff Black. The train left New Orleans no passengers on board.

—Susan Glasser, ” The Steady Buildup to a City’s Chaos,” The Washington Post, 11 Sept 2005.

Two weeks later, Nagin denies on NBC’s Meet the Press that Amtrak offered their services. “Amtrak never contacted me to make that offer,” the mayor tells host Tim Russert. “I have never gotten that call, Tim, and I would love to have had that call. But it never happened.”

—”Interview with Mayor Nagin,” Meet the Press, NBC, 11 Sept 2005.

Wednesday August 31, 2005 – 2 Days After

Looting intensifies in New Orleans. Nagin orders most of the police to abandon search and rescue missions for survivors and focus on packs of looters who are becoming increasingly violent. The AP reported, “Police officers were asking residents to give up any guns they had before they boarded buses and trucks because police desperately needed the firepower.”

TIME.com is reporting that White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs addressed the flood situation in Middle Tennessee and Southern Kentucky in his briefing this morning, and that “[the] FEMA Director [is] headed to the region today.” I’m not sure if this means Administrator Craig Fugate, or Associate Administrator for Response and Recovery Bill Carwile, or even Director Ted Monette from the Office of Federal Coordinating Officer Operations, under A/A Carwile’s office.

Obama: Tennessee seems to be handling this disaster quite well. This is not a call for Federal aid to rush in and start to screw things up – it’s the symbolism attached to knowing the President of your country is aware of what your state is going through.

Uh-oh…here we goes crazy michelle again.

And Michelle where was our federal government at that time sure as hell not helping stop what was going on. Spin all you want, it is racist. I dont give a rats ass who the mayor of the city was, his city was ignored for almost 3 days while Bushie and Great Job Brownie had their head up their asses trying to figure out what to do.
If you have been called a racist many time on this site, then maybe the shoe fits. You need a reality check, and get out of your dream world.
. Obama is the most popular President since Reagan, while his policies might be popular, he is still the doing what he thinks is best, kind of like the school teacher in school we didn’t like because he/she made us actually do things we did not want to do. He is leading us away from Bush/Cheney and Nazism and leading us into a new and better world. What you say now michelle the racist?

Racist, racist, racist. I don’t think you guys can have a conversation without using the word.

Obama is the most popular President since Reagan, while his policies might be popular

You need to do some research. His approval rating is currently 48%. The public was against obamacare and he rammed it through anyway, he’s critizing AZ, when a majority of Americans support it. If you think the public is behind him, you are delusional.

That is approval ratings you are talking about, not likeablity which is at 68% according to a Wall Street Journal poll.
And if you think Glen Beck is someone to take serious you are a bigger racist than I thought.

Ah racist labels! Typical libtard tactic to undermine and disarm a discussion, that shit may fly over at HuffPuff or DailyKommunist but not with most people here.

48% is the real clear politics average of all major polls. Oh btw, the same site shows 57% of people think the country is on the wrong track. Although Rasmussen has that at 60% and that’s usually regarded as the most accurate since they poll likely voters.

Please point to me how Beck is a racist. Don’t be a cowardly drive- by character assassin and not back it up. Oh and while you are at it, how about pointing out anything racist I’ve said.

I know that I said that I’d shut-up, but…

As most of us Country Mice know, in addition to state and local government, the Red Cross and the Salvation Army, a lot of this country’s first response comes at the hands of the huge, efficient machine called Walmart.

Here’s a link to the company’s Katrina FactSheet and one to their press release about Nashville.

Again, I don’t want to minimize anyone’s loss. The area in which I now live was hit by an unprecedented and devastating natural disaster shortly after I arrived and I’ve been through several hurricanes, plus a couple of earthquakes. Every disaster, location and reaction is unique, but if you look at the non-political response of this link in the supply chain, you can easily see that there was a big difference between what happened along the Gulf Coast and the recent events in the Cumberland Valley.

Well this had been truly entertaining, but I have to get to my son’s soccer game.

Oh Steve, when you don’t find any racist statements made by me (which you won’t, none exist), you may want to consider apologizing.

so, way up at the top of this thread, somebody quotes Anderson Cooper on CNN, who apparently said just about the same thing F&F did. but there’s not ONE COMMENT about Cooper. somehow, all of these nasty comments are directed toward Fox.

huh! as Beck would say, “that’s…weird.” I mean, if y’all are so incensed by the heartless racists of Fox, how come you’re not also incensed by Mr. Vanderbilt?

what I think is that “racism” has now been re-defined as “whatever Fox News says.” it’s always amazing to me that people who just eat up the Olbermann shtick call Fox personalities “haters.”

and MichelleF, I have to disagree with you (which I rarely do having read your posts for the last couple of weeks). it IS about race. it’s ALL about race. listen: if black New Orleans had been the city who took care of itself, and white (?) Nashville the city that fell apart, you can bet it would be front-page news and the media would be gushing like BP’s oil.

“so, way up at the top of this thread, somebody quotes Anderson Cooper on CNN, who apparently said just about the same thing F&F did.”

I didn’t see anything in that Cooper quote up there that called out New Orleans by name or mentioned “complaining and whining”.

Did I miss it?

michiganruth – You once again humiliate my beloved home state with your incoherent and racists comments. I must insist that you remove “michigan” from your user name and replace with something like “tea-bagger ruth” or “I heart Glenn Ruth.” Which bring me to this; you lose all credibility when you say “as Beck would say.” I mean, for Christ sake, you might just as well have said, I farted and got an idea. C’mon tea-bagger ruth, please give your comments some “thought” before posting. Please.

Another EPIC WIN for the Proud Journalists at FOX & FRIENDS!!1 As STEVE DOOCY used to say as I was interning as his POOL BOY a few summers ago: This… is… HUGE!!111

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw6LBbeXTww

Steve Doocy is nothing but a creepy old troll.

Ted says:
May 14, 2010 at 7:00 pm
michiganruth – You once again humiliate my beloved home state

So Ted’s from Michigan. Figures. That explains why your such a whiny government teat sucking crank. How’s that libtard state of yours holding up these days with all that dem rule, eh loser? Good time to buy a house in Detoit I hear.

Jon Bershad illustrates exactly what is wrong with the media today. He is unable to aruge the facts because they are behind Doocy, however, it makes Jon feel bad so he doesn’t like it. Political correctness at its absolute worst. There is absolutely nothing wrong with what Doocy said. However, lefties will whine and whine because they hate the fact that people are able to take care of themselves when they haven’t been raised to suck off the governments teet. It’s so much easier to play the race card or blame Bush for the fact that a bunch of welfare babies didn’t know how to help themselves.

BTW, I’ve been through a flood. We lost our home. We didn’t get a debit card. We didn’t beg for Pres. Clinton to come save us. Fema gave us a port-o-pody, some cheese sandwiches and called it a day. Relying on ones self is something liberals like Jon will never understand.

Thats Gold karl !!!2 Gold !!!!2

So is this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNPmXth8Aoo

lonestar77…A-frickin-men!

@lonestar77: Perhaps that’s the difference between a hurricane and a flood.
For more info, see Hurricane Ike

timzank – to suggest that you have the IQ of a door knob is an insult to all door knobs. To suggest that you have the Q of a tea-bagger is well… At any rate, I think you owe michignruth and other tea-baggers from the great state of Michigan an apology. You do know you insulted them don’t you? No, of course not, you are the quintessential tea-bagger, how could you possibly know. It’s hard hard when your reading comprehension is at what…a third grade level?

I know this may elicit a seizure, but seriously, try “thinking” before posting, and you just might save yourself from looking like a complete dumbass…but I doubt it.

Bania says:

Seeing Karl Spensen singing about his “little pussy ” is F-ing hilarious ! Now his obsession with Doocy is explained.

Ted–thanks for proving my point, dude!

Difference between a hurricane and a flood is that you have a week’s worth of warnings with a hurricane. With a flood you have 3 hours if you are lucky.

Your are welcome michiganruth – you must have a very low threshold of proof. The again, you do listen to Glenn Beck so it all makes sense.

PS – Please change your user name.

Teabagger- You’ve been waiting for excuse to drop the N bomb all day, huh? Lol

. . .not much twanging either. But the horses were a bit bummed by all the water in their beer.

@germ: As I said in an earlier comment, I’ve been through several hurricanes and though I was unaffected, so I didn’t mention it previously, but I’ve also been in the same television market as a 500-year, regional flood that came without any warning. Basically, the rains came and the tv weatherman noticed that the river levels were rising, but if you weren’t awake at 2AM, a lot of people were awakened by disaster.

Therefore, I certainly know the difference and I also know what it’s like to owe a great deal to the efforts of all relief agencies, both public and private. And as I also said earlier: every disaster is different and to the victims, the loss is still the same. That’s why it’s unfair for me, Doocy or anyone to make a comparison; If all your crap’s by the curb and tonight’s dinner is courtesy of a community or group, it really doesn’t matter how you got there.

My point was that in lonestar77′s flood, he apparently needed a porta-potty and some cheese sandwiches. I’m sure that if he was insured, he probably availed himself of the benefit later, but because he wasn’t in a region completely devastated, landlocked and largely evacuated, his needs were probably different than the poor people of Galveston.

Magister…we weren’t insured…500 yr flood plain. Neighborhoods were wiped out. It was a big deal, not some random flooding of a few streets. 1994 – North of Houston.

Oh and during Hurricane Ike we were without power for 7 days yet somehow my neighbors managed to keep from looting each other.

F&F: Unlike “A Lot Of Disasters,” Nashville Victims Not “Whining And Complaining

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It has to do with Middle America. They are more patriotic. They are less dependant on the Government and have more self respect. The don’t expect bail-outs, hand outs and they don’t beg. They are a much better class of people than the Commies in the left wing who expect everyone else to pick up the tab.

“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom.
What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation.
You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.” – Dr. Adrian Rogers

I am FLATTERED that you posted a clip from my old talk show, BANIA!!1 Unlike a lot of COWARDS around here, I don’t HIDE behind some FAKE SCREEN NAME – I AM who I AM, and I’ve got the FOOTAGE to prove it!!1

And AmericanCowboy – you CONTINUE to impress me!!1 You are the VOICE of the new Conservatives, and I encourage you to KEEP ON doing what you’re doing!!1 You’re right – there is the REAL AMERICA and then there’s EVERYTHING ELSE!!1 Like those GODLESS LIBERALS in BLUE York City!!1 God BLESS your sir, and your IMPORTANT WORK!!1

funny thread is funny

Big_F-ing_Dope says:
May 15, 2010 at 12:53 am
funny thread is funny

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funny thread is funny

OK neanderthal…

liberal is dummy liberal

BFD, i just got paid dude, I was wondering if your still peddling SP’s feces? What was the special again buy six one free? By the looks of things your in full stock .. Lmao!

Durf! Durf!!

Lol

One of the untold stories Post-Katrina was how some of the victims treated those who took them in. The reason Nashville doesn’t whine is the same reason Nashville isn’t as poor as New Orleans: the citizens are simply better motivated. That’s not a race issue…just a simple fact. Last year Northeastern Arkansas was hit by horrible ice storm that took out electricity in some areas for a month. Did anyone really hear about it despite th fact it was the middle of winter? The best part of liberalism is the sympathy they have towards those less fortunate. The worst part of liberalism is never calling out those less fortunate when they should.

Doocy and company – taking stupid to extremes daily.

Yep, the libs are always crying, “But the Govt. is supposed to take care of us!”

LOL

Mr. Bershad once again tries a hit piece. One day he may succeed. I ask, when will the Prez fly to Nashville and tour the area? Is it too white, too rich, too independent for this administration. I just ask why the Prez can’t make it there.

I’m just laughing at how offended some of you are, or at least pretend to be. You can rage and scream and call the rest of us racists all you want, but we don’t care anymore. Your words are meaningless now.

The commentary comparing Nashville victims vs Katrina and saying the former are better, more self-sufficient, don’t whine, aren’t looking for the government to fix things for them, and saying the latter are whining, looking for handouts and entitled and all the rest.. Straight racist. I’ve seen plenty of it around the web since this happened. There’s no need to bring up the victims of Katrina with regards to this story. I don’t go around always saying arguments with which I disagree are racist, but this stuff is.

Kinda funny what I find as truth
Others may find offensive and/or insulting

When is the “We Are The World” concert for Tennessee…??

When is Michelle Obama going to to an American Red Cross commercial..??

Where can I text donations for the victims..???

“A rich television personality implying that anyone who had their entire livelihood wiped out is a “whiner and complainer” just rubs me the wrong way.”

Rich..??

You lost The Game
Thanx for playin’

@NYCRetired: One of the local stations had a local telethon that I believe raised $1.8m and we’ve all heard that Faith Hill, Tim McGraw and Kenny Chesney are thinking about doing something in June. The CMT awards are June 9th and at least while the river was in flood stage, we were told that Fan Fest will still happen, which is the 10th-13th, so I’d expect that any fundraising will probably be coordinated and/or promoted during these events.

I can’t recall the Michelle commercial for the Red Cross. Perhaps hers was an all purpose, but if not, she shouldn’t water down her brand with such a quick repeat. IOW: If one is needed, I’d turn more toward Reba because it’d save the First Lady and could potentially have more impact.

My records show that in early May, the following tweet was making the rounds; “Nashville is underwater and needs our help. Text “REDCROSS” to 90999 & a $10 donation will be charged to your cell bill.” I didn’t personally retweet it myself, but I did post the text (credited as a retweet) to a couple of comment forums on May 4th and I know that Anderson (and I believe F&F) have given the same info.

Doocy has been with Ailes since “America’s Talking”. If this and the success of his morning show hasn’t been reflected in his contract, he should get a new agent.

Clarification: The “RedCross” text gives an donation to their general “Disaster Relief Fund” because the Red Cross system doesn’t target donations, but if you’re interested in giving directly, here’s a list of groups.

This last link also says that there’s a national telethon airing tonight on GAC and the “Nashville Rising” telethon (w/ Faith Hill, Tim McGraw, Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood, Amy Grant, Miley Cyrus, etc) will happen on June 22nd.

OK – Time for me to shutup, but “Nashville Rising” is apparently a concert, not a telethon.