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George Will On Obama’s Leadership: ‘He Has Astonishing Faith In His Persuasive Powers’

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On ABC’s This Week, George Will argued that over the course of Barack Obama‘s term in office, the president has put too much stock in his speeches and the power of persuasion, which has made him a less effective leader overall.

Christiane Amanpour introduced the segment with a summation of the Jacqueline Kennedy tapes released last week, proposing that it is in times of crisis when a president’s mettle is put to the test. Will did not think President Obama was effective enough on policy and focused too much on speeches during his presidency so far.

“He went to Massachusetts to campaign against Scott Brown. Scott Brown is now a senator. He went to New Jersey to campaign against Chris Christie, who’s now the governor. He went to Virginia to campaign against Bob McDonnell, who’s now governor. He campaigned for the health care plan extensively, it became less popular. He campaigned in 2010 for the Democrats, they were shellacked. He began, in a sense, his presidency flying to Copenhagen to get Chicago the Olympics. Chicago was the first city eliminated. There is no evidence that the man has rhetorical powers he is relying on.”

Historian Michael Beschloss suggested the president simply does not like political conflict, and contrasted his leadership style with those of Presidents Kennedy and Johnson. Cokie Roberts argued that Lyndon Johnson‘s hands-on approach in dealing with the Senate made passage of the Civil Rights Act the success that it was. Conversely, Roberts thought President Obama was “inexperienced in dealing with the legislative branch.”

The whole panel laughed at the “Fire Everybody And Start Over” approach James Carville proposed last week, while ABC’s Jonathan Karl pointed out that Obama’s toughest critics are, in fact, Democrats. He contrasted Obama’s fiery “Pass this bill!” rhetoric with Congressional uncertainty on when the bill is actually going to be passed. Not to mention a handful of Democrats would vote against the American Jobs Act if a vote was held today.

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  • Anonymous

    Lets hope the momentum of Democrats finally recognizing this guy had no experience other than as a campaigner lasts until the election.

  • Anonymous

    Luckily for the country, Obama and other democrats seem to be blind to this reality.  Let’s hope he continues the speeches which have no impact on this reality.

  • Anonymous

    If you’re in Congress , and someone is bellowing at you , threatening you , insulting you and demanding that you rush his bill through , as is , the answer always has to be no .

    Obama has rushed stuff through before , disastrously .

  • http://twitter.com/Staciisa_bitch Staci Chase

    Lincoln had setbacks too, but once people see that the other side has no plan Obama ratings will go back up. 

  • Staci Luvs The Foreskin

    depends if he’s cut or not..lol 

  • Anonymous

    George Will Critiques Obama’s Leadership: ‘He Has Astonishing Faith In His Persuasive Powers’. 

    In layman’s terms George was saying Obama’s got ‘ Sh*t For Brains ‘.

  • Anonymous

    George Will pretty much nails it.

    I’m a little surprised everyone is so dismissive of Carville.  He didn’t say just fire economic team, he said to fire someone, anyone.

    Carville knows a little bit about righting listing ships, as he was the principle architect of Clinton’s comeback after the ’94 beat-down.  Democrats in the White House would be wise to follow his advice, although I’m personally hoping that they don’t.

    What Obama is doing right now plays PERFECTLY into the hands of the GOP.  If this keeps up, even Bachmann will be able to beat Obama.  It’s that bad.

  • Anonymous

    Keep up with the latest…
    #1 MEME (6 months ago): How much voter fraud from unions, ILLEGALS, dead people, ACORN, etc. will the d-cRAT socialists use to steal another election for NO-PLAN OBOZO in Nov 2012?
    #2 MEME (4 months ago): Which lunatic-leftist will challenge the OBOZO failure in the primaries?
    #3 MEME (2 months ago): By how large a LANDSLIDE will NO-PLAN OBOZO be defeated in Nov 2012?
    #4 MEME (now): When will the OBOZO failure read to the nation the following off his idiot-box teleprompter: “I shall not seek, and I will not accept, the nomination of my party for another term as your President.” ?

    …it just keeps getting better and better.

  • Anonymous

    He’s LeBron, baby!

  • Anonymous

    It’s interesting where your mind wanders off to in support of Obama.

  • Michelle

    George, narcissists, generally speaking have a staggeringly high opinion of themselves and their abilities.  It’s not based in reality. 

  • Michelle

    George, narcissists, generally speaking have a staggeringly high opinion of themselves and their abilities.  It’s not based in reality. 

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty much what the lying Presstitutes have been trying to portray for the last 2.5 years, and it hasn’t worked.

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone know? Has this Bill even been introduced into congress yet? I know a Republican introduced one with the name the President used. But has the President’s?

  • Anonymous

    Does anyone know? Has this Bill even been introduced into congress yet? I know a Republican introduced one with the name the President used. But has the President’s?

  • Michelle

    Nope, but Reid has put it on the calendar.  Which begs the question, if we are in such dire straights, why are they procrastinating?

  • Anonymous

    (The Hill) — The Senate likely will not take up President Obama’s plan to create jobs until next month following a planned recess period, the No. 2 Democrat in the chamber said Sunday.

    Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said the Senate would focus on a number of “related issues” to the $400 billion job-creation legislation this week. But he quickly noted on CNN that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has placed the massive jobs bill “on the calendar.”

    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/scheduling/182173-durbin-senate-likely-wont-act-on-obamas-jobs-bill-until-oct?utm_campaign=briefingroom&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterfeed

  • Anonymous

    Obama has become so desperate and inept that he used a joint session to desperately plead “pass this bill”, but he never bothered to coordinate the legislation with his fellow Democrats in Congress, so he looks like a moron.

    Obama: “Pass this bill now”!
    Democrat Senate: “Eh, maybe sometime next month when we get around to it”. 
    Obama: “I’m LeBron, baby!”

  • Michelle

    The bloom is off the rose:

    ChiTrib editor: Say, maybe it’s time for Obama to withdraw from 2012

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/09/18/chitrib-editor-say-maybe-its-time-for-obama-to-withdraw-from-2012/

  • Anonymous

    Fact: The change is finally coming for Obama in 2012! mmmm mmmm mmmm Obama will be gone!

  • Anonymous

    Has anyone introduced it into the House yet?

  • Anonymous

    Obama’s plan. Raise taxes on the wealthy so I can redistribute it to my wealthy crony, campaign fund raising bundlers.

  • Anonymous

    For any of you out there that may think that “maybe it’s time for Obama to withdraw from 2012″, it may be time for your lobotomy.

  • Michelle

    Well he did say he would raise a billion dollars for his re-election.

  • Anonymous

    The campaign ads with his speech in front of Solyndra peeps will be epic.

  • Anonymous

    Always better to quit than get fired.

  • Anonymous

    So… you could use a lobotomy?

  • Anonymous

    It proves the bill as legislation is worthless, but as a campaign talking point is very important. They’ll prolong the sh*t out of it so The Chicago Jesus can speechify with it at all his campaign stops (colleges & union halls).

  • http://twitter.com/darrenmcgeary Darren McGeary

    Really, so the Republican plans passed in the House and then ignored in the Senate must have been my imagination?

    Did I imagine that the Democrats have not passed a budget in years also?

  • HuskersLoveBo

    I see George, and if you think Romney, Perry, Bachmann, or any of the other declared Republicans are going to beat Obama, I have some land for sale. I will show it to you as soon as the tide recedes.

  • http://twitter.com/Staciisa_bitch Staci Chase

    They didn’t pass a jobs plan.  Thinking Palin will be running in 2012 is another one of your imaginations.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gregory-Vandemark/100001092656563 Gregory Vandemark

    Hey George do not forget to mention our down grade first in our history!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smartest President ever my ass

  • Fenngibbon

    “Conversely, Roberts thought President Obama was ‘inexperienced in dealing with the legislative branch.’”

    Yes, because why would you expect a man who was a state legislator and U.S. senator ot have any experience with the legislative branch?  

    I’ve said it before (for years now) and I’ll say it again:  Obama is a disastrous combination of arrogance and incompetence.  Bush at least knew he wasn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer; Obama lacks even that.

  • Anonymous

    The obligatory Lincoln reference again. Jesus, this empty suit has no qualities, beliefs or similarities to Lincoln. Maybe to Jimmah Carter, but not Lincoln.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, George Will makes a good observation, but there is something more interesting to me here.
    Another “What’s wrong with Obama” panel in the MSM is noteworthy to me because they are coming a lot closer together. It’s been one critique after another by them in this last week.  Also, this one is on This Week with Christiane Amanpour, which makes it a little more significant in my view. The frequency and intensity is increasing.
    I’m not sure exactly what conclusions I should draw from all of this.
    You make a good point about Carville’s talent for “righting listing ships”.

  • Bob

    says the party  that think a half-term governor and reality star should run for president.

  • Bob

    You mean the Tea Party Downgrade, deliberately caused by the House GOP?

  • Yy

    Please, please, please keep dreaming.

    The Right has NOTHING to beat President Obama with.

    Are you going to say the Stimulus?  Well, someone can easily show that it DID work.  If it were brought up in a debate and then fact checked people paying attention will know the truth.

    If you use the employment numbers someone is going to finally ask: what have the Republican passed to help out the jobs situation? Please don’t say Cut Cap & Balance or the Ryan plan because those aren’t jobs oriented.

    Man, if in 12 months unemployement is around 8%……well you know.  That is why the Right is trying their best to sit on their hands.

    I wonder if this has ever happened before.

  • Yy

    Bob, you’re insane if you think the Tea Party or the Republicans are responsible for anything.  Just look at their shinning example: George W. Bush. The man did NOTHING wrong for 8 years.

  • Yy

    Fenngibbon, I don’t get it. PRESIDENT Obama was in the legislative branch of state and federal government and he DOESN’T know anything about legislation?

    And which part is he suppose to know about as President? 

  • Yy

    Bob, I listen to all these people on this clip and my head wants to explode.

    I don’t understand it: Did George Will have an example of a man who spoke and made EVERYTHING they wanted to happen, happen exactly as they wanted?

    Why didn’t anyone call him on that?

    Did Cokie not realize all of the accomplishments President Obama had when he was in control of the House and Senate? 

    Then this other guy says the House and Senate Dems don’t think Obama knows what he is doing.  What is he doing that he shouldn’t be doing?  Is he going to do everything himself? What are the House and Senate Dems doing to help the President?Remember when you were in school and you had group projects? There was the one kid who would do everything and then there were a couple who helped and then there was that guy in the back of the group just coasting.

  • Anonymous

    He should change his name to Lincoln Carter, lol.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a gift! From God!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JUT2TATEV3OHGQ7HZRYN472XVM Felix

    … whooose!  That went way over your head.

  • Valkyrie101

    Of course you have been saying it before, fenn, even before the election which you do not accept. Obama has done an excellent job with foreign affairs, and he would have done much better with domestic affairs if the opposition party was not acting in a such a despicable way, actually trying to sabatogue our economy, even putting our nation into default, for political reasons. First time any party has assaulted out government in that way. And then, what a hoot, after attempting to sink our economy, after stating that their purpose is to bring the duly elected president to his “Waterloo”, they have the nerve to blame him for our economic stagnation, as if he can pass legisltation by himself.

  • PrezOworst

    Please this loser Prez had both house for 2 years and blew it.  Jobs was not important then.  There is no need for any more discussion: LOSER Prez.

  • PrezOworst

    Stop The entire world sees the Prez for the Loser he is.  That would be mostly Democrats too.  End of your discussion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JUT2TATEV3OHGQ7HZRYN472XVM Felix

    If all is well with Obama’s reelection prospects, then why aren’t the Dems happy? why are candidates shying away from Obama?

  • PrezOworst

    Story hun he is no Lincoln.  Come back to reality.  Failed loser Prez

  • PrezOworst

    Story hun he is no Lincoln.  Come back to reality.  Failed loser Prez

  • Valkyrie101

    Wasn’t it those super intelligent tea party republicans who tried (unsuccessfully, because of Obama) to send the nation into default, and sink our economy? They tried, but Obama smoked them. And I can tell you how he celebrated.

  • PrezOworst

    right dont need a thing, Obama is on trial…pass/fail.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JUT2TATEV3OHGQ7HZRYN472XVM Felix

    Obama could use one. Give him a call, doctor.

  • PrezOworst

    fuuny how the hardcore Dems agreed.  wake up your another Lib dreamer.

  • Anonymous

    “Did Cokie not realize all of the accomplishments President Obama had when he was in control of the House and Senate? “

    You could put any imbecile in the White House who enjoyed super-majorities in BOTH houses of Congress, and they could get anything they wanted done.  That’s not an accomplishment.

    Then, when you do enjoy those kinds of advantages and you spend all that political capital on something that a MAJORITY of the American public didn’t want in the first place, you can’t be surprised when people start calling you a failure.

  • Anonymous

    How many times do you loons need to be reminded that the Dems had overwhelming majorities for 2 years of his Presidency. And he still couldn’t get most of his agenda through. Blame the Dems where it belongs.

  • Anonymous

    You have a very active fantasy life.

  • Sermaus01

    A lot of democrats will face political seppuku if they keep supporting their failing policy, unfortunately they are dragging the country  along for defending their ideology, I wish they can just say, we were wrong, lets bring another option and a better approach to fix our current situation. Please put country before party

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • Valkyrie101

    Man, were you blind. The House could be delivered but not the Senate because the Democrats lacked the necessary 60 vote “super majority”. Thus, a record number of filibusters by the republicans, and a record number of blocked appointments, often for petty and openingly oppositional reasons. Does that sound fair? You republicans played scorched earth, being fully and openly antagonistic to Obama’s initiatives, all to “sink” his presidency, so that Republicans can blame him for all the problems. Does that sound fair? The end does not justify the means, unless you are a communist.

  • Valkyrie101

    Bingo.

  • Valkyrie101

    Candidates?

  • Anonymous

    Jimmy Carter loves Obama for one reason. Because Obama has removed Carter from the bottom of the barrel of presidents list.

  • Anonymous

    You’re dismissing an awful lot about recent events against Obama piled on top of the obstacles he already had on his plate, if you’re so sure.
    I would like to know why you are so confident of his abilities to overcome all the things that would have destroyed any other Presidency.
    Frankly, there is only one way that his re-election would be a lock viewing it from 14 months out. That would be a mechanism already in place to insure voter fraud. I’m not saying that is going to happen, just the only way someone could be that confident of the outcome of the election.

  • Jerry Baustian

    He is running, make no mistake about it. Thousands of Democratic campaign consultants and advisors are committed to him — their jobs are on the line.

     It does not matter about the millions of regular Americans who are out of work. But Democratic politicians and political activists need Obama for their livelihood.

  • Anonymous

    The most recent polls show Obama winning handily against any Republican candidate. So the Democrats are not “shying away”.

  • cdnhawk

    He still has a way to go before he removes GWB from the bottom of the list

  • Anonymous

    Obama took Carter’s place at the bottom.

  • Jerry Baustian

    Not exactly… not in the recent ones. In those, support for even the weakest GOP candidates is within the margin of error. 

    More significant than the national polls are the numbers in the swing states, where Obama is behind. And then there are his weak results in California and New York — even though he is still favored to carry those states, Democrats have to be concerned about his dwindling support.

  • Glutton

     He might be smart if he could blame that on the Republicans.  Technically speaking, Obama gave in on everything to the Republicans and we still got downgraded, and even speaker Boehner had trouble getting his people to go along with the plan.  I don’t think the downgrade will be a big issue for Obama.

  • Glutton

    Romney could probably beat Obama if he got the nomination.  Problem is that the Republican base can’t get over Romney Care nor can they get over the fact he’s a Mormon.

  • Glutton

     Obama only has to worry about 4 states; Michigan, Ohio, Missouri, and Florida.

    In Michigan, he bailed out their auto industry, so I don’t see any Republican besides Romney beating him there.

    In Florida, the Republican Party has become the enemy of social security, so once again, no one besides Romney could beat him there.

    Seems to me that the only Republican who could beat Obama is Romney, but for some reason the Republicans prefer morons and idiots like Parry and Palin.

  • Jerry Baustian

    The path to a credit rating downgrade has been nearly 40 years long, since certain budget and entitlement “reforms” in the mid-1970s. New entitlement programs such as the Bush-era prescription drug addition to Medicare and of course ObamaCare have made the budget situation even worse.

  • Jerry Baustian

    Did he celebrate with home-brewed beer? Or with something more hallucinatory?

  • Glutton

    Problem is that’s not how presidential campaigns work in this country.  The incumbent always has the resources to show that he’s doing everything a good president does while his opponent comes off as just a politician on the campaign trail.  If I were Obama, I would probably follow the Karl Rove textbook from how he got Bush to beat Kerry in 2004.  

  • Glutton

    So even if you think the bill is a good bill and you believe that it has many good points, you will still reject the bill because you feel bellowed, threatened, insulted, and pushed?  I don’t think that a professional should allow their personal feelings to determine how they do their job.

  • Glutton

     The problem is that he does have experience now.  How do you use the experience card against an incumbent president?

  • Yy

    You mean have your brother make your state attorney….wait that was 2000.

    You mean have your brother make his state use electronic ballots?

  • Glutton

    It’s easy to say Obama is a bad president because from an objective point of view, he hasn’t done a very good job at all.  At the same time, when you look at his potential opponents (with the exception of Mitt Romney or Ron Paul), they aren’t very impressive themselves.  If Rick Parry gets the nomination, I could see Obama getting re-elected quite easily.  

  • Yy

    Glutton, you know they are all full of shit.

    All the RIght Wing could do after the speech is complain about how many times Obama asked the Congress to pass the bill.

    Boo fucking hoo.

  • Yy

    Glutton, what was the good job Obama was suppose to do?

    Please tell me what a good President would have done at this point in the same exact situation. SAME EXACT!

  • cdnhawk

    He is only in position to be at the bottom because of GWB’s eight years of spending on two wars and giving tax cuts for the rich (which by the way don’t create jobs) . You have to be a super hero to dig yourself out of this mess…and with a say no to anything opposition…I sure wouldn’t want to be President these days…that being said…he has not lived up to his lofty expectations

  • Guest

    Didn’t BO say “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for”?  And something about the seas rising…or something like that.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: Well he would beat Rick Parry but not the GOP candidate Rick Perry! Say no to drugs didn’t help you did it?

  • Flangegpp

    The say no opposition? Are you refering to the dimocrat’s super majority in Obozo’s first two years?

  • Anonymous

    Why do people keep lying about this? It’s easy to find the stats. After the massive tax cut for the poor (the bottom tax bracket got a 255% higher tax cut than the top tax bracket) the unemployment rate dropped from 6.3% to 5.4% in a few months. Over the following 12 months after the tax cuts were implemented 1.5 million jobs were created. bls.gov

  • Anonymous

    Wait, I’m confused.  I thought that Obama was completely unable to accomplish anything worthwhile because of all the eeeeevil Republicans shutting down all his initiatives.  I give up: did the Republicans actually stop him or did he accomplish all these supposedly amazing things?

  • Anonymous

    Simple, really: just point out what his efforts to learn on the job have wrought.

  • Anonymous

    If it was that good, he wouldn’t need to bellow, threaten, insult or push.  That is where personal feelings are undermining professionalism.

  • Anonymous

    OHH, I see, so they haven’t *passed* a JOBS plan yet, and that somehow negates all the other plans that they HAVE passed despite the Democrats saying they had none.

  • Anonymous

    That pre-supposes that the first, last and only method by which jobs are created in this country is if the federal government designs and implements them and then puts people to work in those jobs.  That is the critical logical failure of the “no jobs plan” meme: a single-minded reliance on federal central planning for everything.

  • Anonymous

    They’re stuck with him on this one.  They raised up their blueprint for First Black President ™, demagogued anyone who critcized his policies as racists, and put the hopes of the progressive movement on his shoulders.  If they primary him now, they’d be admitting they ran the blackest man for the job and not the best man for the job, who finally rose above all the prejudices that were working to thwart his success.

    Obama HAS to be the most awesome president in the history of ever, or affirmative action is revealed as undermining success to achieve an arbitrary quota.

  • Anonymous

    Since we know this isn’t a strategy to create jobs and, by all appearances, it’s a re-election strategy, let’s just cut to the chase, put the bill to a vote, vote it down, and get the adults, who really do want to create jobs, working on a bill.  I though Ted Mack’s Original Amateur Hour was off the air a long time ago.

  • cdnhawk

    OK…so tax cuts for the middle class work because they spend the money…..wheras the wealthy don’t….

  • Graywolf

    Methinks it’s hard for an empty head to explode

  • Anonymous

    No.  They are the ones who tried – and succeeded – to bring the severity of the federal budget problems to the nation’s attention at a time when politicians were eager to sweep it under the rug and ignore the rampant deficit spending.

  • Anonymous

    The Dems had the 60 votes, and the “record number” meme is way overblown and long-disproven.

    And there is nothing wrong with being openly antagonistic to a bad health care bill that does virtually none of the things it promises and so far has done all of the things its opponents warned the nation would happen.

  • Anonymous

    Obama’s spending has dwarfed Bush’s, even after scaling down our presence in Iraq significantly (as specified in the defense agreement Bush had signed with the Iraqi government in his last year).  So if Bush’s wartime spending and $250b deficits were bad then, what are Obama’s $1.5t deficits now?  If Obama’s deficits are double the worst Bush years (under Democrat Congresses, no less), then what position will his successor be in?  The super-bottom?

  • Anonymous

    cdnhawk, the tax cuts for the “wealthy” (from 38.6% to 35%) created 37 straight months of positive job growth. Quarterly GDP went up from what was already a steady 4.5% to (these are the following quarters starting with September 2003, 9.3% (first full quarter after the tax cuts) 5.8%, 6.5%, 6.4%, 6%, 6.7%, 8%, 4.5%, 7.5%, 5.5%, 8.3%…………ahhhh, the good old days!

  • Anonymous

    just get the black panthers to the polling places and start bashing heads.  that’ll do it.

  • Anyone but Obama

     Obama was a half-term Senator who ran for president and won.

  • Anyone but Obama

    Way to not even address 90% of the argument you opposed… just like a Dem

  • Anyone but Obama

    And you can bet that any economic turnaround that happens after Obama is kicked out of office will be attributed to the delayed effects of all his “genius” policies.  It certainly couldn’t be because Republicans took the reins, oh no, it’s the delayed Obama effect, and what a shame it is that he didn’t get a chance at a second term to work even more miracles.  That’ll be the Dem/media line, no doubt about it.

  • Miles30

    That said, he’s still the least experienced person of any meeting he walks in to.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    I understand why you’re confused.  You don’t realize that you can be both accomplished and hampered.  It happens all the time.

    Think about your best most successful day. Do you think that possibly the day could have been better even though it was good already?

    Same thing here.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    You do realize that the Repubs of 2010 ran on jobs right?

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, but I’d be more concerned about big labor and the ACORN spinoffs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mpuerling Michael Puerling

    wE KNOW AT LEAST ONE OF THEM IS FULL OF SHIT AND THAT MIGHT BE WHY HE IS SHIT COLORED.

  • Anonymous

    They also ran on the premise that the federal government is not the first, last and only vehicle for creating a job in this country, and in many cases even hampers some of the other efforts taking place.

    So no, I’m not short on realization.

  • PTCdweller

    I was hoping someone else was thinking what I was thinking.  Did you read what Emmanuel Cleavor of the CBC said over the weekend?  Pretty much proves that theory!

  • Anonymous

    You seem to have a fixation on assuming what I do and do not realize.  I recommend finding another avenue because you are very poor at this one.

    The premise is very simple.  If his accomplishments were so grand, things would be better.  Because they are not better is somehow the fault of Republican intransigence, but at the same time, he has somehow magically managed to accomplish great things which haven’t actually DONE anything.

    You can be both accomplished and hampered, but you can’t say the country is crap because of something these guys stopped you from doing, but also say that something you did made the country not-crap.  In short, it’s not about accomplished and hampered, it’s about crap and not-crap, which IS a logical contradiction.

  • Anonymous

    But the Dems have been lambasting all of us about the GOP plan to end Medicare and privatize social security. Which is it? Do they have no plan, or are they planning on killing grandma? 

    You know what happens when you cross the narratives. Total protonic reversal ….

  • PTCdweller

    Go read what Dem insiders are saying in Nevada according to an article in the LVRJ: “Don’t get your picture taken with President Obama”.  That’s their new campaign strategy.  Care to revise your statement?

  • Anonymous

    Neither have the Democrats, both before and after the midterms.

    You’re not very good at this.

  • Anonymous

    No, they ran on reducing the deficit (which they aren’t really coming through on). Jobs are a result of sound fiscal policy, not crafting legislation packed with wasteful spending.

  • Anonymous

    It’s a testament to the hyper-partisanship oozing from today’s Democrat leadership that it makes one pine for the good old days of Clinton and Carville.

  • Anonymous

    Get CBS to do an attack story about Obama’s youth that involves fraudulent documentation?

    No President will be hampered with the yoke of incumbencymore than Obama. Bush won in 2004 because the economy, even after the hit of 9/11, was quite robust.

  • Anonymous

    Runs large deficits
    Lame attempts to improve economy
    Expands unpopular wars, creates new ones
    Is blinded by his own ideology and self-righteousness
    Etc., Etc., Etc…

    I’d say Obama is pretty much just like Bush.

  • http://twitter.com/RonCdeWeijze Ron C. de Weijze

    I like and agree with the suggestion in the title, that perceived persuasive power is mainly in the head of the beholder.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    Republicans have a plan. Repeal Obamacare, reform entitlements to prevent the programs from going bankrupt, cut government spending, and decrease pointless, job crushing regulations to incentivize private investment in the economy.  That’s the plan.  But since it’s not what the Democrats want to do, you pretend it doesn’t exist.

    Your definition of the other side “having no plan,” is that Republicans won’t continue to do exactly what the Democrats HAVE done–funnel a trillion dollars to states, cities & public employee unions pretending that it’s going to magically lead to hiring and growth in the private sector.  The Democrats’ plan is: keep spending billions upon billions even though it’s been a total failure. 

    P.S. Lincoln was a Republican.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    When Staci Chase says the Republicans “didn’t pass a job plan,” she means, they didn’t vote to spend another trillion dollars by giving it to local governments and public employee unions to eventually run out and do NOTHING to create jobs in the private sector.  She thinks that the only way a job is created is by the Federal Government spending more money.  All progs believe that, despite the epic failure we have just see happen before our very eyes over the last three years, we should just keep doing it.  To them, that’s a “jobs plan.”  It’s insane.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    Bingo, TheSchaef! You nailed it.  The liberals believe Obama’s ‘jobs plan’ of spending another $500-$700 billion will succeed because he says it will.  That’s good enough for them.  The FACT that the Democrats already spent twice that amount promising the same things (that were never delivered) is totally irrelevant to them.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    Easy. You simply point out that Obama spent a trillion dollars to “stimulate” the economy and create jobs.  It was a total failure and has made things worse, yet he wants to do it all over at a cost of $500-$700 billion.  Experience is worthless if you learn nothing from it and Obama hasn’t.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    You’re right, Anyone but Obama, and it’s embarrassing to watch.  If something good happens, Obama deserves the credit.  If it’s bad, he inherited it from Bush. The saddest part is, everything has gotten worse since Obama took office due to the policies he has implemented (so they haven’t stopped blaming Bush even three years into Obama’s first/only term).  In contrast, the only good thing that has happened is Osama bin Laden being killed and it was only possible due to the policies Obama campaigned against.  But of course, he’s taken ALL the credit and will be spiking the football on that “accomplishment” right up until election day.  Total loser.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    Yeah, Obama “smoked them” all right.  ”Smoked” the country right into a credit downgrade.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    Haven’t you heard, TheSchaef?  Congress is “broken.”  Somebody “broke” Congress!  And by “broke” the Democrats mean “we don’t have huge majorities in both the House and Senate.”  

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    Yy, the reason you don’t get it, is because you’re asking the wrong question.  It’s not “what should Obama have done?” but rather, “what should Obama NOT have done?”
    Not pass Obamacare, not triple deficit spending, not blow a trillion dollars on the failed “Stimulus” package, not propose spending another $500-$700 billion on another “Stimulus” package, not pile huge, job crushing regulations onto the private sector during a recession,…

    The Democrats demonize the private sector and do everything they can to make their operations more expensive and less profitable.  Then, they wonder why companies aren’t hiring.  It’s pathetic.

  • Jerry Baustian

    The Democrat Party is the party of government, and the Congressional Black Caucus represents those black constituents who depend on government the most. 

    So it does not make sense for Allen West to belong to the CBC, and any plan he might come up with to lower black unemployment, that does not increase economic growth and increase job creation for everyone, can only result if West abandons his most fundamental beliefs.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    Obama did NOT “give in on everything.”  The Democrats are INTRANSIGENT when it comes to cutting spending.  They absolutely refuse to cut spending in any meaningful way OR to even discuss entitlement reform despite the fact that the programs are facing insolvency.  They would rather make commercials showing a Paul Ryan look-alike pushing an elderly woman in a wheelchair off a cliff than be adults and face the looming financial disaster.  That’s why our credit rating was downgraded.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    The affirmative action presidency is too big to fail.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    “…and he would have done much better with domestic affairs if the opposition party was not acting in a such a despicable way, actually trying to sabatogue our economy, even putting our nation into default, for political reasons.”

    All based on the ludicrous and false premise that a prosperous economy can only be achieved and sustained by massive, multi-trillion dollar spending by government.  FAIL.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    Democrats pre-downgrade: THE TEA PARTY IS IRRELEVANT! Democrats post-downgrade: THE TEA PARTY CAUSED THE DOWNGRADE! 

  • Anonymous

    Indubitably, Georgie.  You are ugly, intolerant, humorless.  Another Republicultist without a moral/intellectual Center.  The politics of Hysteria.

  • Anonymous

    With his kind of talent and initiative I am certain Yy could make it happen.

  • Anonymous

    With his kind of talent and initiative I am certain Yy could make it happen.

  • Anonymous

    Mainly because of left wing fools, who have afflicted us all with this disaster of an administration.

  • Anonymous

    The president offers nothing and scolds the House and Senate (hint – not part of the executive branch) to pass a non existent bill and you are behind it 100 percent. So much for your skills and knowledge as a political analyst.

    Should I recommend a pairing to go with your whine? I suggest crow.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry Staci, but Obama’s ratings are going to continue to decline. He made a big show out of this and had no plan to submit much less a bill for Congress to consider. He is the one that has no plan.

  • Anonymous

    I would think you would develop an appreciation for a parachute prior to leaving the plane, but hey, nothing  is wrong with a strong sense of rugged individualism like you have going, Antonio.

    I’m sure you will have a great impact.

  • Anonymous

    With his taste for beer, I think Billy would be more appropriate.

  • Anonymous

    You really think that an 8% unemployment rate is going to save your guy? It has been well over that for so long now he would have to bring unemployment under 2% to have any impact at all.

    Democrats are the most delusional people on earth.

  • Anonymous

    LOL, Libs say the darnest things….you think George is a Republican?  Your COMPLETELY naive.
    I suppose when Jon Stewart is saying something bad about Obama, you probably think hes a repub too…LOL, LOL, LOL
    Are you aware that Mr. Will, has in the past, critizied alot of GWB policies?  And some of Obama’s policies as well.  Maybe what you don’t understand is he isn’t just another political hack, and thinks for himself.

  • TruDat

    Sounds like Will hit the nail on the head and the little Obama lovers can’t handle it.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    “I’m not sure exactly what conclusions I should draw from all of this.”

    Can’t recall where I saw it, but I read something that I thought was a good explanation of why MSM pundits (who have spent years protecting Obama and trying to cover for this incompetence) are now openly questioning his performance.  Virtually every program Obama has created and every policy he has implemented has failed to deliver what was promised, and in most cases, his policies have made things much worse.  But none of Obama’s policies are new.  It the same big government, tax and spend liberalism that the Democrats have been insisting “works” for decades.

    But liberalism doesn’t work and it produces nothing but failure every time it is attempted.  Consequently, by attacking Obama, left-wing MSM pundits are tying to keep the focus on him instead of the failed policies themselves because it is liberalism they are protecting.  The MSM will throw a candidate under the bus but you will NEVER see them question the wisdom of the policies themselves.  If it has to, the MSM will blame an individual candidate for failure because liberalism must be protected at all costs.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    Clearly, Obama has already had a lobotomy.

  • http://twitter.com/SeanArther Sean Arther

    For liberals like Great_1, it’s “ugly, intolerant, humorless” to acknowledge factual, objective evidence of failure.  He believes ignoring failure in favor of giving credit to Obama for his good intentions is the ”moral” and “intellectual” thing to do.  So predictable and pathetic.

  • ExPat ExLawyer

    Thanks for reminding me of how much longer we need to put up with this loser – 14 months.  I tried to stop counting,NonElite, because the time has gone by so slowly.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MPPK2CTPRQYEYSXVOFVUJRX3SQ ken

    It would have been more persuasive to point to his successes and say he has a big head. 

  • ExPat ExLawyer

    Good one.  Too funny.

  • KjshaRK

    No, the wealthy depend on the government the most. As long as they own virtualy everything they will shape the government to maintain the status quo. They pay off the poor so they don’t revolt. After all, half the county is below the poverty level. What’s to stop them from taking what they have been denied ?

  • Jerry Baustian

    Kjsha, I see what you mean. The rich depend on government to protect what they have, to keep the poor from just taking it? But for the poor, how else are they ever going to become rich unless their property is secure and they are able to accumulate more of it without having it taken away? 

    A rich man can always afford to hire private security with guard dogs, to put up electrified fences, to live in gated communities far from the riff-raff. The poor must rely on the security that publicly-funded police and fire departments can provide. 

    As for the CBC, many of the policies they promote are designed to maintain the underclasses in their poverty — never promoting the entrepreneurism that is the only way for them to climb out of poverty permanently. Because if they did that, then they’d start thinking like Republicans and probably voting for Republicans, like Herman Cain.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JYVAWGBIPKD6KM34635KNVLVGQ Lee

    Please put down the pipe and try to concentrate.

  • TruDat

    Quicker too.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JUT2TATEV3OHGQ7HZRYN472XVM Felix
  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1497076194 Travis Pierson

    You’re right.

    Conservatives often complain about the amount of time President Obama spends golfing. I say, as long as he’s golfing, he isn’t giving terrible speeches that cause the stock market to tank and pushing legislation that will goof up our country even more than he’s done so far. I’ve said repeatedly this is the Barack Costanza administration. Every political instinct he has is wrong. Things would have been much better if he’d done nothing at all.

    Mr. Obama, I beg you, please golf at least 36 holes a day for the remainder of your term.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1497076194 Travis Pierson

    The deficit alone from President Obama’s first year was greater than the total amount spent on both wars combined over periods of 7 and 5 years, respectively. Obama’s stimulus alone would nearly have covered the cost of the Iraq war. At least President Bush has 50 million people freed from tyranny and on the path to self-determination to show for his expenditures. What does Obama have to show for his $4 trillion in deficit spending?

  • htr

    rachel ,,why do you cowards at nbc dont blow up on salyndra and obamas involvement,, only fox

  • htr

    rachel ,,why do you cowards at nbc dont blow up on salyndra and obamas involvement,, only fox

  • Jerry Baustian

    Good job, Travis. How many people has Nobel Prize winner Barack Obama liberated? Not a single one. In fact he has made it more likely that there will be a major Mid East war with millions of casualties, and no clue whether anyone will end up with a free and stable government afterward.

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