This is why I love George Will. Growing up in the 80′s this is the kind of conservative my father was and I now am.

PS… And I love the way he pwned Bill Maher. :)

You got that right, George:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/have-you-seen-the-photo-of-the-wall-street-protester-defecating-on-a-cop-car/

 George Will clearly doesn’t know what he talking about. The 1960s bad for the left? WTF?

They lost 5 of the next 6 elections. Did you not WATCH the clip?

Pretty accurate there, George. The American left wing is a mob, look at what they did at the Air & Space Museum yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc9OSFLnyUI&feature=share

When Donna Brazile disagrees with you, you know you are right.

The best video by far is the crazy collectivist chants in the video where they won’t let John Lewis speak. 

I’m glad the left wants to associate themselves with such a herd of mindless cattle, incapable of independent thought.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/09/occupy-atlanta-mob-refuses-to-allow-civil-rights-champion-john-lewis-to-speak-video/

So you’re the type of Republican that ignores reality and paints your own picture of reality?

You really want to compare the intellect of the Left to the Rights?

Can you say Rush Limbaugh? Can you say Sean Hannity?

How in the world could you consider yourself to be in an intellectually superior group with people who deny man made climate change?

How can you be intellectual with a group of people who think you have to be rich in order to create jobs.

How can you be intellectual when you think tax cuts create jobs when there is NO DATA – NONE – to show this to be true?

ya lost all credibility with the man made climate change meme.

my take on internet/major news “red vs. blue” disagreements:
child 1: I want a balloon because it makes me feel good -waaaa
child 2: I want a balloon because it can go up into the air – waaaa

Learn why.. Please, because for us self employeed nearly retired types.. its scary watching this juvinille fight over the same thing AND then the people each “child” selects for the next step.. REALLY? Perry? Bachman? Obama? ?? what have ANY of these people or their ilk done for either of the kids over the last 20 years? I’m self employed because in the early 2000s I realized I was sending, YET AGAIN, another email about people being laid off… That continued and continue and continued.. and today.. I see potential candidates who look happy, healthy, and wealthy who seem to not give a crap about the things that are bothering the people of this country..

BUT, the people of this country are fighting over A BALLOON! 

Ha ha! I was thinking the same of Mr. Bowtie.

Sounds like the Teabaggers to me!

George Will continues to celebrate the Southern Strategy.  They can’t get away from it.

I know you are, but what am I?  Infinity!!

The root reason for the, “Occupy er’s” and the
“99% er’s”. Gaze upon it if you dare. Maybe this will help make the danger of
fiat money clear. Imagine you and me are setting across from each other. We
create enough money to represent all of the world’s wealth. Each one of us has
one SUPER Dollar in front of him. You own half of everything and so do I. I’m
the government though. I get bribed into creating a Central Bank. You’re not
doing what I want you to be doing so I print up myself eight more SUPER Dollars
to manipulate you with. All of a sudden your SUPER Dollar only represents one
tenth of the wealth of the world! That isn’t the only thing though. You need to
get busy and get to work because YOU’VE BEEN STIFFED with the bill for the
money I PRINTED UP to get YOU TO DO what I WANTED.

That to me represents what has been happening to the economy, and us, and why
so many of our occupations just can’t keep up with the fake money presses.

P.S. No matter how much real money people can put together to build their
countries the way they want, there are those that can print up what ever it
takes to dictate their way.

BINGO! That’s why this thing is destined to fail…sorry…just say’n.

Thing about the OWS movement is,if I’m understanding much of what I’ve seen,it began as a sort of anti-both left and right,Dem and Repub movement of people tired of coming in second to the special interests,big businesses and politicians who live off them by giving them what they want and looking out for themselves first and us second.

But now the left has embraced the movement,organized labor has rushed to be included and left wing media darling as well as left politicians including the President have gone out of their way to support the movement effectively making it a left liberal movement.

the left took something that had no ideology and forced it to have one and I bet most of the people participating had no idea it had even happened.

Make no mistake,the core of this movement is not in support of either “side”.or at least it wasn’t,maybe now it is.

You really want to compare the intellect of the Left to the Rights?

Yes. I want to test it on November 6, 2012. See you there.

It proves that the Republicon Party needs their voter base to be as ignorant as possible in order to win elections!!

In his stupid mind the Republicans and Democrats is what this is about. It is so tiresome. The left changed the world because they changed the culture in the 60s. Everything that pisses Fox News and Rush Limbough happened due to the 60s movements.

I’m reminded of Voltaire: “I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: ‘O Lord make my enemies ridiculous.’ And God granted it.”

No, we’re fighting over the America we’re going to leave our children.

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.

It’s easy to deny that which does not exist. Research global warming and use the scientific method, rather than accepting an unproven theory as a religion. And you are comparing Rush Limbaugh, a self-proclaimed entertainer, with the stench of the leftists defecating on police cars? Have you ever listened to Limbaugh, or is this another example of your blind acceptance of other people’s opinions?

lol, yes those Intellect ones…. everyone is starting to call them. ”The Pee Party” The opposite of the Tea Party rallies. The smell of them are now getting more attention then their lack of message!

You can see why they are called this below. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2046586/Occupy-Wall-Street-Shocking-photos-protester-defecating-POLICE-CAR.html

SHUT UP, RACIST!!!

Thank you for this example of the spirit and intellect of the American Left. Preach it, brother! Loud and proud.

It sounds like you’re making a case against the Federal reserve, am I right?

I’ve seen the last couple of nights of occupyPhilly and they’re not protesting against central banking, they’re protesting FOR central planning.  They’re communists.

You speak the truth, but maybe half a dozen of these people understand your complaint.

I guess George saw that photo of the protester defecating on the NYPD car and the piles of garbage. He probably smells the stench across the city.  Then again NYC might be in it’s normal state of comfort.

The American left have low intellect. Otherwise they would shut up and allow the corporations and banks to shaft them. They would realise that they exist to serve their masters in Wall Street.

Is Will claiming left wingers lack intellect? He can talk pretty, to be sure. But when is the last time he won the Nobel Prize for explaining international trade or the fallacy of the ‘invisible hand’? Has he made a contribution to cognitive and linguistic revolutions that he is keeping a secret?

Lack of intellect is not the same as not liking the other guy’s point of view, George dear boy. You should hope this doesn’t become the sixties, for your sake. Civil rights, women’s right, etc. You surely don’t want to go there.

every now and agin, George gets it right; this is one of them.

And then you have david gregory, who has rham on and forgets to ask him about solyndra!  So funny.  Can you possibly imagine David forgetting to ask a republiucan about anything controversial?  But Rham gets a pass. 

Poor NBC, the laughing stock of the nation

 No, progressivism is much older than that. Think Wilson, FDR…

George Will, the only election the Tea Party won is the 2010 mid terms.  What do you think was going to happen after Obama won in 2008?

President Obamas base is young and first time voters and they don’t vote in mid-terms.

If you look at the demographics of those who vote in mid-terms you will see it is an older, whiter, republican voter.  Do you think they were upset when they lost in 2008?  You can bet it.  2010 was a backlash to the 2008 elections nothing more – nothing less.

I guess George never saw the offensive Tea Party signs from the first rallies.  Then you had people like Glenn Beck telling people to stop bringing home made signs that showed their true colors.

The dailymail listed in England under Tabloids

Daily Mail – Says the enemy’s among us, taking our women and taking our jobs. Ultra right-wing, populist, nationalistic, xenophobic, isolationist often hysterical
and notoriously obsessed with the immigrants and house prices and,
lately, a campaign against claimants of state benefits. Infamously
supported fascism in a big way in the 1930s (hence the common “Daily
Heil” nickname; prior to World War II,
it openly advocated an alliance with Hitler and claimed German Jews
seeking refuge in Britain were “exaggerating” the bad treatment they
claimed to be getting from Herr Hitler’s sound and firm government.

So you agree with Occupy Wall Street then….

The legacy of the sixties:
   – Civil Rights
   – Feminism
   – Environmental Concerns
   – Space Exploration, man on the moon
   – Peace and Justice Agendas (Anti-War, Pro Equality)
   – A general rejection of authority of all kinds, particularly corporate
   – Rock and Roll as a mainstream cultural norm
   – A new approach to art in books and movies (The Godfather, Updike, Pynchon, Dr, Strangelove)
   – Computers move into the mainstream (both Jobs and Gates were children of the sixties)

In short, the sixties have essentially defined life in America for a significant portion of the population. Even the radical right bases most of their ideas on sixties memes such as “revolution” and “anti-government” sentiment.

When the sixties started we were in Eisenhower (a great man) America. This was a deeply conservative country. The sixties changed all that forever.

You’re right about that – you have thousands of scientist who research the subject and have degrees related to the subject to help them further their understanding of their research and then you have radio disk jockeys giving the final analysis.

Why didn’t you just say you read Glenn Beck’s site?  It would save people the trouble of taking your delusions seriously.

Such “progressive” intellect on display all over youtube, including this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZlp3eGMNI

Yes they 60′s were bad for the left.  My parents left the Democratic party over the dirty hippies.

Frank, I listen to Rush Limbaugh almost every single day.  

Anyone who listens to Rush and doesn’t conclude that the man is a liar, a race baiter, racist, sexist and shock jock is an idiot.

He is also the titular head of the Republican party so what does that say about your party?  If your views don’t fall in line with Rush’s then you are in big trouble a la Michael Steele. “Rush, I am sorry, daddy.  Please forgive me even though I am the head of the RNC and you are a RADIO DISK JOCKEY!”

Sounds like the children are doing what you have quoted.

  “How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!”

And you are comparing Rush Limbaugh, a self-proclaimed entertainer, with the stench of the leftists defecating on police cars

No you are.  And do you have any proof that the person defecating on the police car is a “leftist”?  Any?

So you think it is a scandal when the government guarantees a loan and the company fails?

I thought this was capitalism at its best.

And your biggest contention is that someone in the government said that the deal might go belly up?

I am sure EVERY SINGLE deal that is looked at has its detractors for whatever reason.

I really don’t see the big deal. Maybe you can help me out.

How is this deal going to get President Obama impeached?

Yeah, sad how a lowly disk jockey knows more than your scientists.

As Rush Limbaugh would say: “Right on, right on!”

George knows he is the ONLY shining example of right wing intellect and that sadly isn’t saying much because the spokesperson for the base (pun intended) often finds himself at odds with the intelligentsia on the Right.

The OCW group are racists.

“Donna Brazile
disagreed with the 1960s comparison, arguing it represents “a different
movement.” She didn’t like the idea of it being similar to the Tea
Party either, but believed it organically developed after the partisan
debt ceiling debate that frustrated many Americans at the ineptitude of
Washington politics.”

No, it didn’t develop after the debt ceiling debate, but Donna Brazile WISHES it did.

Instead, it was preconceived and orchestrated by the foreign communist organization Adbusters. Nothing “organic” or grassroots about it. But it is spreading; and nobody’s listening because it’s mostly students whining about how expensive their useless liberal arts degrees are.

I am with George! Get the message out, OWS! The vids just keep coming!

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/09/occupy-atlanta-gives-john-lewis-the-cold-shoulder/

Make no mistake,the core of this movement is not in support of either “side”.or at least it wasn’t,maybe now it is

It still isn’t.  And the left welcomes any from the right who wishes to join them.  This is NOT about left/right, Republican/Democrat.  This is about the 1% who have bought both left and right politicians and taken the power away from we the people (99%).

Intellect? Rabid Leftists? WTH is that? I’m not sure even most of these hiippy dippy burnouts could even spell the word.

Again, I hope these ‘protests’ continue. I feel for the small businesses in NYC that are having to deal w/the degenerates. But for v. selfish reasons, these protests have been the best gift to conservatives such as myself in a loooong time.

So, thanks!

Only in the mind of a ditto head.

There’s a few nuts in every group. In your group, there is nothing but nuts.

But, I love how you showed us some of the offensive signs that the MSM would have plastered in the news 24/7. You’ll show those, post-haste, right? Of course.

So when the left protest by squatting in a park for weeks as garbage piles up and becomes a health hazard, defecates on a police car, has hundreds of protesters arrested, tries to shut down businesses and prevent people from earning a livelihood, they are hero’s? 

When the right protest for a day, no arrest, they don’t try to prevent people from earning a livelihood, pick up after themselves, no shitting on a police car, they are racist who are a danger to society?

I stand behind the OWS crowd.  I say keep it up.  Stay at least until November 2012.  I can’t think of a better contrast between liberals and conservatives.  I’m gonna take my chances that the general public will agree with the latter.

lol

I HATE THOSE FACTS! I’M NOT LOOKING AT THEM! YOU CAN’T MAKE ME!

Pathetic little child.

i love people like you, everyone on the right thinks the samething except the ones that dont lol 

No, they’re bitching that they’re not getting enough free shit and that other people aren’t behaving the way they’d like them to. They’re complaining about wealth that isn’t theirs. They want it.

Maybe half a dozen of them.

I HATE THAT MESSENGER!!!

George Will is not totally correct. The Occupy Wall Street protests don’t just represent the spirit and intellect of Obama’s Liberal/ Progressive philosophy, they represent the real life failure of it.

It was Obama who gave nearly $Trillion to institutions (that the Protesters are protesting)  he claimed were too big to fail, and it was his committee that spent $10 Million tracking where it all went.

Not only did his most-transparent-administration-in-history fight telling the public where the $Trillion went, they don’t want to say where the $10 Million went  that they spent finding out.

Thank God we can all criticize President Obama without being accused of being racists, now that Democrats are criticizing him:

“Democrats join Republicans in questioning Obama’s policy on Israel”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democrats-join-republicans-in-questioning-obamas-policy-on-israel/2011/05/24/AFkEJpAH_story.html

“Some Democrats Criticize Obama’s Jobs Bill”http://newsone.com/nation/washington-watch/casey-gane-mccalla/some-democrats-criticize-obamas-jobs-bill/”Democrats Criticize Obama’s Green Jobs Failure”http://reddogreport.com/2011/08/democrats-criticize-obamas-green-jobs-failure/Obama once  claimed that he’d rather be a good one-termPresident than a mediocre two term Persident.I say he’s shooting for “Good”

LOL….Yy…you’re getting hilariouser and hilariouser by the minute…

Nothing biased about this analysis Pablo.

You are as fair and balanced as the Fox News station.

“2010 was a backlash to the 2008 elections nothing more – nothing less.”

Really?  Well, actually the GOP gains of +63 in the house was the largest gain in any election since the DNC took 75 seats in 1948.  So, calling the 2010 election insignificant seems pretty dishonest….but considering 0bama’s success with his policies and the OWS protests, you should do real well in 2012.

Read your post and explain to me how it is not a projection.  I dare you.

It’s clear that you didn’t even bother to click on the link, so why are you accusing me of what you’re doing?

And why would anybody care about a photo that Glenn Beck is lying about?

It is a damn good thing that America elected such a uniter in Barry 0bama.

For once you have a point: Hope and change.

“How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!”

If trashing a privately owned park, publicly defecating on a police car and carrying signs that urge people to become communists is a show of spirit and intelligence, then any college professor or instructor that had one of these people in their classrooms should be summarily fired for incompetence! In the interviews I have seen on video, most of these young people are totally unaware of the purpose or goals of these demonstrations. If these are the future leaders of America, I fear for my grandchildren and their generation. They will never knw true freedom!

Right, intellect is all about elections. Dumbass.

Glenn Beck and facts? Oxymoron of the year.

Years ago all I was hearing was crickets. The half a dozen or so that do get it are starting to pop up in the most opportune places.

If they had studied recent history they would have learned that Obama flouted the system and “saved” the very companies they demonstrate against. I do not understand how young people can graduate college while having so little knowledge of what is going on around them. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. A liberal mind is a terrible waste!

Hope they found comfort among the racist Republicans who were eloping en masse from the Democratic party.

Turns out, it was another job from pimp journalists like O’Keefe.

http://my.firedoglake.com/cgrapski/2011/10/09/american-standard-editor-admits-to-being-agent-provacateur-at-d-c-museum/

680 seats in state legislatures:

Who could have suspected that Barack Obama, Harry Reid, and Nancy Pelosi
would spark a national rejection of their party that outdid Watergate? 
In the wake of the resignation of Richard Nixon three months earlier,
Democrats won 628 seats in state legislatures while flipping 49 seats in
the US House and three seats in the US Senate in those 1974 midterm elections.  National Journal
reports today that the GOP wreaked “devastation” on Democrats in this
cycle by netting not just the 60+ seats in the US House and six US
Senate, but also 680 seats in state legislatures across the country:

H/T Hot Air…http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/04/gop-wins-all-time-high-in-state-legislative-seats/

You mean like the Teabaggers complaining against Medicare cuts who get 3 times the money they put into the program? 

You forgot to mention that the Tea Partiers supposedly spit on Nancy Pelosi! It must be true because she said so.

You do realize that the last Republican Party Head apologized for using it?

Only the left is concerned about income inequality and the social net, so the OWS was by default a leftist movement.

I am not sure if this is true, but I read that Van Jones was being financed by interests in Russia! It would not surprise me, but I am inclined to doubt it.

Every single right wing politician confirms what they ‘think the right thinks’

An entire movement that ignorantly associated themselves with a sexual act, and its the other group that is nuts.

And right now the Congressional approval is lower than the 2010 levels, so what does that tell you.

Not to mention, George Will got his ass handed to him by one of those ‘hippies’, Jesse, from the OWS crowd.

I don’t think I can concur with every individual and his positions. Even though I don’t agree at all with some, with most I feel a great kinship.

 It was like that in the sixties. The media used to tell us what we all believed we believed. The Beatles came along and started this big rift between everyone over whether you liked them are not. We became divided. It opened up a whole dialog amongst us on the Beatles and other things. We started to compare other ideas we had been having and found many of us thought the same thing. We were no longer billions alone. The new knowledge brought us together. Even if some didn’t agree on a particular concept we were still having a good time with each other.

Right, its all about the “Conservatives’ and the ‘businesses’, not the country and those struggling to make ends meet. Typical Conservative Compassion and Patriotism.

I think it’s funny that you guys think you speak for 99% of the population. 

-It was Obama who gave nearly $Trillion to institutions

Typical Conservative idiot, doesn’t even remember who initiated the bailouts.

Down With Evil Corporations!

http://www.powerlineblog.com/a...

They are taught by the likes of Bill Ayres, Bernadine Dohrn, and Ward Churchill.

Last I checked, there are no radio disk jockeys employed at CERN.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100102296/sun-causes-climate-change-shock/

and every single left wing politican confirms what they “think the left thinks” which mean both of full of shit for the generalization

Keep on believing the crap you speak! Your argument is invalid and all your base are mine.

1. The Tea Party is not a political party. It is comprised of people from all walks of life, including liberals, who think the government is overreaching and are trying to influence politicians to govern within Constitutional limits.

2. Where is the proof that it was actually Tea Partiers carrying offensive signs? I heard a lot of claims but saw no proof. There were no offensive signs, clothing or language at any of the Tea Party events I attended. All I have seen or heard is liberals ranting hatred because our movement is larger, better planned and better attended that any of theirs!

3. It was Republicans and Independents from all walks of life, not just old white ones, that caused the 2010 backlash!  We will do it again in November, 2012!

4. I believe you will see that a lot Obama’s base will not bother to vote in 2012 because the promises he made were not kept. Obama has abandoned the very people who idolized and supported him by his crooked politics, his greed and his corporate cronyism.

Although I did not vote for Obama, I was hoping that he would set a shining example of what a president should be and I wished him well. My favorite NASCAR driver did not make it to the chase, either!

You’ve got a good point.

The abuse of the central banks around the world have allowed a stealth socialism to permeate every political decision now. Allowing many that shouldn’t of had any funds, or the say with a dollar, to have unlimited funds has sucked the wealth away from all of the people and their businesses around the world. Those very people and their businesses were the ones that really did know what they were doing. Now they take orders from the counterfeiters and criminals and what they want.

I suppose I could tolerate some socialism if the people paying for it came up with some real money. Not counterfeit. Regaining control of our currency should go a long way to setting things back in order.

Lots of them are young. I think if they get the opportunity to earn a living they will grow wiser on these things. One can only hope as much for this new world order of things we’ve allowed to be finance through fiat money.

My Mom told me that the thing that messes up communism is that if everyone gets and equal share of the pie; why work hard? Even with the stealth socialism we have, and know one really knows it is there, we have come to the same conclusion. Why work hard? In fact we are so far gone that why work at all.

Inflation has been slithering in like a vampire in the night and has been sucking the life out of your Aunt Martha’s savings and retirement no matter where she has the cookie jar hid.

Intellect entails the ability to make a compelling argument. This election isn’t going to be about color or fake Greek columns or Hopenchange, dumbass.

Let’s see who wins the debate.

It tells me that you are unable to cite any legislation or policy achievements from the DNC that the public supports and will reward with meaningful election victories in 2012…so you need to wrap your hopes of political relevance to Congressional polls. Is sad, isn’t it? 

Well, good luck.

When one pushes a government loan to a company that is on a very shaky foundation, and one’s political fund raiser stands to benefit from the terms of the loan, it is capitalism, crony capitalism! It could also be called corruption! If the FBI got to Solyndra’s books before they could be doctored they might even find that some of that loan circled back into the coffers of the DNC, in addition to the campaign funds of Obama and his circle. Obama doesn’t promote any program to spend government money unless it benefits himself.

So funny…and ironic that the Baby Boom hippie trash,while always crowing about the ‘Sixties…sit-ins,protests,Vietnam…now shit on the next generation’s efforts to stand up to the establishment’s efforts to control and curtail the general populace in order to line their own pockets and keep the game rigged in their favor. Hypocrites!

.,amazing,,.

Rampant teen pregnancy, sexual promiscuity, and widespread drug abuse….Thanks 60s!

It strikes me as very funny that dog owners have to clean up their dog’s mess but the OWS organizers do not have to clean up after their little pets. Wouldn’t it be a hoot if the organizer’s list of necessary supplies included “Pooper Scoops?”

The Left is trying very hard to co-opt this movement. The Looney Left has a lot of people imbedded in these demonstrations.

Your hypothesis intrigues me.   I wish to subscribe to your newsletter!

George Will was so much better when he hosted a game show:
http://tinyurl.com/6glnns2

FDR changed the world for the better – kicked Hitler’s ass, implemented social security and ended the problem of widespread poverty among the elderly,  put in programs that helped build an American middle class that enjoyed decades of U.S. prosperity – til the conservatives came along and gutted the economy 

Yy, you don’t come across as a particularly intelligent person.  Your recitation of leftist talking points and broad-brush dismissal of Rush Limbaugh only bespeeks a simple mind.

Useless fleabaggers.  Wonder if any of them would accept work cleaning up the mess they leave in cities across the nation.  Doubt it. 

One or two signs out of thousands. Why do you libs keep repeating this damn lie? People who are not idiots know you are just puking up lies!

NUTS ON YOU CHIN! Douche.

You think the Southern Strategy is racist?  Then why do you support Republicans?

Tax cuts do help the economy and eventually bring jobs.  It is not the only factor but you have to understand economics to know what works and what doesn’t.  Leftists are leftists exactly because they do NOT understand economics.  Take a few classes and you might realize why conservatives believe in free markets and smaller government.  And please tell me, how many poor people do you know that have created jobs??

Unlike the Teabaggers, the OWS are a grass roots organization.  The members of the corporate media and government don’t run the show.  For authoritarians like yourself, this must be very confusing.

Follow the money…how many of them were enriched by grant money to go along with the whole AGW scam? 

The only people who are ignorant are those who have been brainwashed by leftist propaganda all their lives into believing lies shoved down their throats.  Leftists tend to be ignorant of history (and I don’t mean that revisionist junk by interpretive marxist professors), economics, and most of all our Constitution.  History has proven time and again that leftist policies do not bring prosperity or even justice to anyone.  Socialism benefits only the elite in power while the rest of the masses struggle in scarcity and loss of freedom.  A lot of leftists like this because they don’t want to be responsible for their own lives and would rather have a nanny take care of them.  These protestors only want things given to them–they don’t want to earn it.

dont start this shit again, he also cut veteran benefits, interned americans in prison camps, and killed 400,000 americans, he is not saint

Do you ever post any links that aren’t from right wing blog sites? Do you need me to provide some websites that at least try to tell both sides?

The monster created by Dr. Frankenstein rejected and overwhelmed him. Similarly, the monster of slugs, slackers, deadbeats, liars, freeloaders, losers, taxpayer-leeches, cheats, ILLEGALS and potheads created by the lunatic-left d-cRAT socialists are rejecting and overwhelming them.  Let’s not forget the words of the monster to Dr. Frankenstein:  “You are my creator, but I am your master. Obey!” – and the lunatic-left will do just that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOGWbzUM-y8

When all your thoughts are fed to you, that’s all you’re capable of.

He’s right. It does represent the spirit and intellect of the American left. But at least unlike when speaking about today’s American right, you can use the word “intellect” in the same sentence.

George Will’s wit and resources I highly value. Rush, Sean, and others, I listen and learn. They are American treasures.

I’ve recently seen “the spirit and intellect of the American left” crapping on a cop car.

Will tries to make an allusion to the sixties to present the case that the right will automatically benefit from this without realizing how far institutions have gone over the edge due to leftist intellectual whitewashing.  He should; he’s at one of them as he speaks.  There will, of course, be a natural reaction against such goings on, but unlike the sixties, this movement is part and parcel of the ruling structure, being run by the president’s allies – not the counter culture – as a large scale threat employing useful idiots against those on wall street who won’t play by his crony socialist rules.  One the one hand its a reactionary cause celeb to try in gin up a tea party left.  One the other, its a strong arm tactic to wrest campaign funds from those he can terrify on wall street.  Otherwise, this president is already toast.

You sure can. Sometimes, whenever I need a good laugh, I’ll remember your comment!

So you admit President Obama made a much better argument than McCain/Palin?

Or the MSM fool everyone?

Madeleine Morgenstern is not Glenn Beck, genius.

“those on wall street who won’t play by his crony socialist rules?”

The President is already owned by Wall Street. Where are the indictments from the DoJ against Goldman Sachs? Or anyone for that matter? Have you seen the Obama campaign’s biggest donors?

These protests have nothing to do with the President. Their lack of a “clear message” is exactly what gives them some hope of being useful. Hopefully, they won’t be fooled by phoney Democrat politicians saying they support them because they do not.

The system’s broke, and both parties did it. They aren’t our friends and they don’t give a shit. They just want to keep the gravy train rolling, and the rest of us can piss up a rope.

The President will be back. If he’s not, it will be Mitt Romney. Will anybody notice a difference?

This is not an opportune place for a serious message. You don’t want to be lumped in with wannabe cannibals, fart smellers, cop car poopers, slackers, Communists and murderous queers.

Anderson Cooper did that, and he’s something of an expert.

http://www.therightscoop.com/man-on-the-street-occupy-what-street/

I find it interesting and telling that so many here separate and divide their beliefs by left and right political definitions
I’m very much a conservative. I believe there already is a right to concealed carry in the BOR and I am Pro-Life.
I also am amazed that anyone can deny marriage to any couple and not find it as appalling as racism, sexism or any other baseless form of discrimination. Yes, I believe in God and. I am.quite aware of what the Bible says. Discrimination is discrimination.!! Just how closely do we really want to follow the bible? How closely are we? We should be careful what we claim to seek.
Man-made Global Warming!?? Sure! Just as soon as anyone shows me the emissions records of humans leading to the last SIX ICE AGES. Just as soon as someone explains Al Gore having FOUR(+?)) homes, at least one of which is on the beach!!??? Or how the same people predicted anothee coming Ice Age in the 70′s!!???
Do we need to find and promote other types of energy sources? MOST CERTAINLY!!! Do we need to bankrupt ourselves and force an unprepared infrastructure and populace into dire straits to do so? HARDLY!! THAT is a sure key to guaranteeing failure and placing our people and our economy in a position of vulnerability to anyone poised to take advantage of just such a situation, just as we are watching unfold before us as we speak.
There is no doubt that factions from both the left and the right side of the political spectrum have led us astray with motives not intended to empower those who could not benefit them. This is a no-brainer as Bush attempted to increase entitlements and then pay for his lavish spending with a tax cut. He wanted to be a Reagan copy. He failed and his spending and bailouts set the stage for the ultimate Manchurian Candidate to proceed with dismantling our economy seemingly undeterred.
MMGW. is a myth being used to manipulate power to a central authority, just as is this moronic and repeatedly proven failure of Keynesian economics. The Federal Reserve, the EPA, FDA, ICC and on and on and on have all been used to centralize power in the government and both sides have done their own brand of contributing to this situation.
The right says we need this subsidy but not that subsidy and then goesnon to say that subsidies represent an inability to be self-reliant and therefore we should not be subsidizing that which cannot support itself.
The left demonizes one grass roots group while praising another with nearly the exact same origin. WHAT!!?? They cry FOUL at Fox News after Dan Rather!!??? After blatant and purposeful hypocrisy!!???
Do you see the point here!?? They BOTH do it and if you follow blindly along behind one or the other pipers, you are going to get VERY WET!!
Wake up!! Quit swallowing the bilge by who spews it and think for yourself! If you get tied to a specific title or mascot, you become the jokers fool!

The lack of a clear message from the protesters themselves, some of them anyway, is indicative of the fractured nature of leftist politics.  Some are in it for pacifism, some for anti-capitalism, others for drug legalization, no-nukes, class warfare, etc.  But to say this has nothing to do with the president is to ignore what we’ve known for months on who’s been the organizing force behind them.  Unions, Obama’s biggest supporters, their friendly, socialist political front parties – those same which were instrumental to his early political career – and college socialist elites and the like, his profession before politics.  Its no coincidence that Bill Ayers, frequently tied to the president, though the relationship is constantly downplayed by those who support him, was suddenly thrust forward as (self-appointed?) spokesman for the movement.

Some accuse the Tea Party of highjacking the Republican party; this is
an attempt to highjack messaging and fuel the progressive wing.  The system may be broke, but this expression against it doesn’t stand a chance of not being a tool of one of the parties.  It’s a function of it.

The hippie protesters have a new cheerleader!!

Iranian Revolutionary Guard General Hails Occupiers As Beginning Of An “American Spring” That Will Topple Capitalist System…

Congrats!!!  That’s a real coup!!

Did you know that while recieving only 20% of national AGI the 1% pay 40% of the taxes.  2nd.  If you confiscated 100% of Gates and buffets wealth it would only cover 1 month of obama’s spending.  If you confiscated100% of the wealth, not income of the 1000 richest you would only pay for 1 year of Obama’s spending.  Who pays for everything after that?

So he was like bush in that he did some things that are distasteful, but actually succeeded where the moron cowboy screwed everything up worse?

I think you are prob mad about that.

As much as the opponents of man-made global warming would like to put a final nail in the coffin of climate change debate, the matter is far from settled. As the head of the CERN PROJECT himself put it: “At the moment, it actually says nothing about a possible cosmic-ray effect on clouds and climate, but it’s a very important first step.”

So this movement is a union/ACORN astroturfed movement used to kowtow Wall St. and bolster Obama? If that is what you’re arguing then I again have to ask…..

Where are the indictments against Wall St.?

If Obama is truly owned by unions, and the unions are using this movement amongst other things to weaken or overthrow our capitalist system, why doesn’t Obama send the DoJ and the SEC storming the offices? What would be more destabilizing then seeing Dick Fuld, Lloyd Blankfein and the rest doing a perp walk? There’s plenty of evidence for a nice, juicy trial.

We’ll never see that trial. Obama doesn’t want it. He gets too big a piece of the pie. Unions are just fighting for their piece, too, but they’re going the way of the dinosaurs and they know it. The big dogs like Trumka will still get paid and the Dem hucksters will still get their votes, but it’s just a show at this point. The working man is on his own.

This great socialist boogeymen party you conservatives are railing against doesn’t exist. The Democrats are just sticking their fingers in a few different pies is all. They’re all Republicrats and they want power, sex, and $$$.

Study history. Do you have any examples of science perpetuating frauds? Cold fusion in Utah. Human cloning in Korea. These are the only two that come to mind, and they were both quickly tested by other scientists and found unverifiable. The scientists who engage in frauds lose their careers.

While you’re searching for the history of frauds in science, just remember politics is full of frauds; some politicians build their careers on it. And they get quick pensions and speaking fees from cronies after any “disgraceful” retirement.

You got that list of scientific frauds read y yet, janinec?

Study history. Do you have any examples of science perpetuating frauds? Cold fusion in Utah. Human cloning in Korea. These are the only two that come to mind, and they were both quickly tested by other scientists and found unverifiable. The scientists who engage in frauds lose their careers.

While you’re searching for the history of frauds in science, just remember politics is full of frauds; some politicians build their careers on it. And they get quick pensions and speaking fees from cronies after any “disgraceful” retirement.

You got that list of scientific frauds read y yet, janinec?

You arer a liar then.  You have never heard anything he has said.  He has never said anything racist

No, that’s why I mentioned how this election is going to be different from the last. Reading is fundamental.

Why would anyone trust a link from you?

Yeah sort of like “intelligent leftist”

Don”t forget filling all our institutions with marxists!  Leftism is the scourge of healthy civilization.

I didn’t provide one.

Republicans were in the forefront fighting for civil rights since the Civil War.  It was the Democrats that fought the civil rights movement for most of that time.  Of course, some Democrats fought for civil rights too but the majority had to be pushed into it by changing times.  The Democrats fought against the abolition of slavery–not only in the south but also in the North (the Copperheads).  Then they instituted all the Jim Crow laws and started the KKK.  Progressives in both parties also advocated eugenics — which also was from the Marxists and aimed not only on people with disabilities and mental issues but also at people of color.  Woodrow Wilson was not only a flat out racist (as most Democrats were) but he also supported eugenics.  He also was responsible for a lot of black history to be taken out of our school books, especially with regard to the Revolutionary War and our fight for Independence.  After passing Great Society programs, LBJ was recorded saying that “(they) will have those n—–rs voting Democrat for hte next 50 years”.  That was the beginning of the propaganda war against Republicans by putting programs in that created a permanent underclass among the majority of African Americans by destroying the black nuclear family (before, blacks had a higher marriage rate and lower divorce rate than whites).  Basically, the leftist programs kept a whole class of people beholden to their perceived “benefactors”.  All the while, they were keeping them from advancing significantly while trying to blame the Republicans (by falsely calling them racist to demonize them) because they wouldn’t go along with most of the social programs that treated one set of people different than another simply because of ethnicity.  Yes, some liberal Republicans tried to help the minorities like Nixon and his Affirmative Action, but overall, the GOP  believed in true equality which means treating EVERYbody equally under the law.  Ever since, the left has just repeated the same lies over and over (using Goebbels’ technique) until people ignorant of true history believed it to be true.  And here it is being perpetuated by folks here repeating the same lies without knowing the dark past of their so-called leaders. Was the war on poverty successful?  Are most blacks really so much better off now than they were 35 years ago?  Some are…but not as many as should be.  Why?  Leftist policies.

You mean the Democrats who were the KKK (even your late Sen. Byrd was a grand kleagle! and don’t forget Al Gore’s father’s great contributions to blacks) and who put in poll taxes and Jim Crow laws.  The Democrats whose policies have destroyed the black nuclear family?   Republicans were mostly responsible for civil rights…look it up, not in  your revisionist history books by leftist professors who interpreted history (or other propagandists with agendas), but in actual government voting records since the Civil War and the writings of the actual people who made the history.

Yeah, really intelligent response…repeat the garbage your mentors throw at you.  Be as vile and repugnant as possible since you have no facts to work with.

Like the hispanics that were PAID to be there?? Riiiiigght

If you are fighting for your children’s future, then you should be fighting against the leftist movement that are trying to take away their freedom.  You should want a truly free market where we can all prosper and have self-determination to either succeed or fail on our own merit.  You should want America to be America–and not Europe lite. 

Can’t handle the truth, eh?

There was no “Southern Strategy” as you imply.  That is mostly a lie–total propaganda.  The Southern Democrats that switched parties did so for economic reasons…less federal interference. 

No, your false implication was that it was racist.  Lefties always twisting things because they can’t handle honesty.

Who is behind QE1 and QE2????  The Obama Adminstration!!!

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You don’t know that the Southern Strategy is a racist strategy?

There is no safe level of socialism…  every bit is corrupt and perverts our economy.  I always suggest folks learn about economics.

It didn’t start as anti-both sides…it was started by a radical leftist group in Canada.

That is why it was started by anti-capitalist radical leftists, called Adbusters?  They only welcome people on the right because they want them to also reject capitalism, which is not the problem.  The problem is cronyism and the collusion between big overgrown government and a few mega multi-national corporations and banks.  Too much regulation killing competion and destroying the free market that would allow us all to prosper, while the government grants exemptions, subsidies, bailouts and loopholes to its chosen friends.  Tell Obama to cut government and regulations and stop coddling Jeffrey Imelt and GE and I might be more supportive.

The 60s celebrated irresponsibility…

Only if they are donated for free!

I see.  But that doesn’t explain why two RNC chairmen apologized for using the racist Southern Strategy that does not exist.  It’s a mystery.

Civil Rights demonstrations were not what he was talking about.  Those were years earlier and the GOP is mostly responsible for the passage of the Civil Rights Act, whether you like it or not. 

Will was talking about the hippies dropping dope, protesting the war (which was started under one Democrat President, perpetuated under another Democrat President so he could make gobs of money for his private company, and ended by the next Republican President, Nixon) and mistreating the veterans as they returned.  Yeah, we got tired of them after a while because they didn’t care about our young men fighting–they didn’t want anyone stopping Communism from spreading.

No, that is NOT capitalism. That is corporatism (a sort of socialism-lite).  Capitalism is allowing the free market to determine whether a business succeeds or fails.  Collusion and cronyism are perversions and destroy free market capitalism.  Have you EVER studied ANY economics????  I guess not..maybe a little centralized planning, eh?

No, you leftists put the “bagger” moniker on them. STOP lying.  Why do leftists lie so much??

I know you’re not intelligent enough to understand this, but the question to whether or not some people were paid to be there has no bearing on whether or not it was a grass roots demonstration. If they were paid by the powerful elite, as was the case with the Teabagger rallies, it’s not a grass roots demonstratioin.  If they were paid by the powerless, it is grass roots demonstration.

No, that is NOT capitalism.  That is corporatism…a form of socialism-lite. 

You’re right, reading is fundamental.

I would have had to read your post and concluded that you were correct in your assertion about the last election to think that the next election would be different.

The last election was about the fact that the country had enough of the failed policies of the Bush administration and candidate Obama was able to paint McCain/Palin with that same brush.

Obama won the last election for the same reason he will win the next one.

So whenever a corporation gets a loan guarantee from the government they are practicing – not capitalism – but socialism lite.

need a toothbrush sis?

need a toothbrush sis?

There are no prosecutions because America doesn’t do ex post facto laws, as per the constitution.  Obama answered this on in a press conference just a few days ago.

More to the point, why do you suppose all this upset is being directed against Wall Street, seeing as it was politicians who flipped them the cash to begin with?

i mean really–how can cutting down billions of aces of trees, creating concrete jungle and adding 7 billion consumers have any affect on our planet?
i mean really–do you expect people to have common sense?
that would be like saying it is cooler in the woods than in the cities—
oh ha it is-i wonder why? maybe it is where MAN MADE his presence?

the thing i love most about the right—they wil go right into the noon sun and swear it is night time–if that is what the consevative media tells them..
lets not foret that jesus the carpenter build the universt and the billions of stars in 6 days…and rode with T-Rex in the Garden too…

common sense folks—man’s presense is affecting the planet–and anyone who says it is not–is a liar or a fool…
or both~

http://www.victorluebker.com/1/post/2011/10/ron-paul-makes-attack-watch-website-threat-list.html
Ron Paul makes attack-watch list with occupy wall street support

are you arguing that will “pwnd” maher on the brazil/ethanol claims the latter made?

first of all, that’s not “pwned” that’s “owned”

“pwned” is an entirely different category

second of all, maher’s claims about brazil were not that far off the mark

they weren’t completely true, but there was no need for will to make a big
deal out of this…..

brazil largely weened itself off of oil…..compared to the united states
i think that was the core of maher’s point….

Wrong.  The Baby Boom hippies, as you call them, are in full support of these efforts and if you’ll notice, have joined them.  The Baby Boomers who are in opposition were also opposed the sit-ins and protests back in the 60′s.

I was thinking about your comment and remembered a recent story. Someone at one of the collages took a poll on what the students thought about redistribution of wealth. Lots were all for it. Then he ask them how they felt about redistribution of their grade point averages. Lots didn’t like that idea. They had worked hard for their grades. Besides why should others benefit that had done nothing?

It’s in their DNA.

Speaking of the President’s cronies…

) Obama bites the banks that feed him — Wall Street
is bad, right? The bankers are ruining America, correct? Well, that’s
still no reason not to take their money, according to The Greatest
President Ever. TheDC’s John Rossamando reports: “Despite his rhetorical
attacks on Wall Street, a study by the Sunlight Foundation’s Influence
Project shows that President Barack Obama has received more money from
Wall Street than any other politician over the past 20 years, including
former President George W. Bush. In 2008, Wall Street’s largesse
accounted for 20 percent of Obama’s total take, according to Reuters…
An examination of the numbers shows that Obama took in $421,242 in
campaign contributions in 2008 from Bank of America’s executives, PACs
and employees, which exceeded its prior record contribution of $329,761
to President George W. Bush in 2004… When asked by The Daily Caller to
comment about President Obama’s credibility when it comes to
criticizing Wall Street, the White House declined to reply.” Of course they did. What could they possibly say? “It doesn’t count when we
get in bed with the evil bankers, because HEY LOOK OVER THERE!!!” Those
bankers must feel like suckers these days, along with everybody else
who ever believed in Obama.

Socialism DOES EXIST and it IS A DIRTY WORD!!  It goes against all common sense.  Just look at Europe and see what it is doing to Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy.  France and Germany are not much better.  Socialism is a belief in something for nothing and the Nanny State, and once the population gets used to it, just try taking it away from them when the well runs dry. 

Definition of idiot to Yy: anyone who disagrees with him.

All one needs do is watch the videos from “Occupy Wall St.” and those of the Tea Party.  The occupiers’ answers are ummm,… duh…., I’m here for the drugs, man,…I know I’m here for somethin’, man…..Bankers are evil…they should give me their money… I just want to express myself. 

When the same questions are asked of the Tea Partiers, their answers are..Stop the Spending and driving this country into Bankruptcy….Pay down this horrible debt so my children won’t be overwhelmed with it…. get Big Government out of our lives and our decisions…do what’s necessary to bring back jobs…give us back our country!

It’s supremely clear which side has the intellect and is searching for the answers to our problems.  And it ain’t the Left.

There is an excellent case to be made against Goldman Sachs for malfeasance prior to Dodd-Frank. You might be inclined to dismiss him due to his employer, but Matt Taibbi has done great work on the subject, and is happy to blame all parties. Obama’s DoJ just doesn’t seem interested in the work. Furthermore, the DoJ is actually impeding the NY AG’s attempts to keep channels open for investigation by way of this looming settlement. Doesn’t this behavior seem strange for an Administration supposedly so intent on taking down capitalism?

Here’s a few links. I really encourage you to read Matt Taibbi. He’s doing good work, and he’s not a shill. At least humor me given I didn’t balk at your WND links.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-people-vs-goldman-sachs-20110511
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/22/business/schneiderman-is-said-to-face-pressure-to-back-bank-deal.html

I would say People are upset at politicians as well, unfortunately the circus is good at what it does. Many people are so wrapped up in hating the other side they can’t see the faults within their own circle. “If only it weren’t for Party X, all our problems would be solved!” Until this changes, pols will face the usual heat, but they’ll always be able to slide the blame to a popular scapegoat (Wall St, Unions, etc.) while they continue to cash their checks and eat their oysters.

They do represent the lefties; they’re vile, filthy, destructive and clueless.

I guess your “intellect” fails when it comes to sarcasm.

These same mobs of lefty losers infected Wisconsin’s capital for months after the election of Governor Walker and his attempts to balance the budget.  They stunk the place up and destroyed property and still lost.  Walker’s policies prevailed; the lefty Supreme Court Justice lost to the conservative; the recalls failed and the conservatives still hold the legislature.

Lefties only know filth and destruction; they can’t win elections.

If elitist George Will is correct, the “spirit and intellect of the American left” is lazy, hateful, and smells.

Beck is a propagandist hack with a known penchant for making $hit up. 

Where is the EPA?
Can you imagine the damage these filthy packrats are doing to the ozone layer?

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Ya bitch, because Conservatives are known to camp out in parks with hippies and shit on police cars. Stupid F’ing slut.

A further problem in as far as Goldman Sachs is concerned; a number of late employees from there were invited into administration posts at treasury, the Fed and on Obama’s economic advisory council.  GS is the one banking institution most insulated by friendly faces from political retribution.  To say, though, that the administration is co-opted to a degree isn’t to say it’s owned by them, I don’t think.  At least not more so than is the norm for Washington influence peddling.  That’s hardly true of any administration, especially when he represents a different segment of society than those from whom he receives support.  He has them around, he’ll take their money, but is not them.

I always make the point that Obama is only a president and can’t do things which the office is prevent from doing, politically or legally.  Agreeing to sustain the Bush tax cuts, for instance.  Many on the left saw it as a huge sell out, only he really had no choice, having little political capital at the time on the issue.  But a president is also the most powerful person on earth.  As I said, ex post facto means no prosecutions.  In this case, such actually protects him from a fight which doesn’t benefit him in the end.

It’s better that the political class, who floated the mortgage backed securities game and rated subprimes as good investments, doesn’t have it out with banks in whose ears they were whispering all the while they’d be too big to fail.  Few power people want that fight, for it cuts both ways.  Rhetoric often serves even better than action; especially so in a highly charged election.  If Obama can position himself with those in the street and the Republicans with the demagogued, it won’t matter to the bulk of those to whom he appeals that no action was taken.

There’s more than one way to skin a cat.  You seem to think the end game should be prosecutions, as any reasonable person might.  It’s not.  It’s cash and influence.  Obama will attempt to take the fervor of the street – if ti doesn’t get out of control – and use political capital he gains from it as a form of coercion, threatening action which would adversely affect business.  For those who would play ball, pony up their fair share of campaign funds, the retribution can be minimized.  You may have Goldman Sachs in your sights, for presumed malfeasance…  but it’s Bank of America that the administration is pushing around most.

BTW, you keep coming back to a point.  To revisit something you said earlier, that there is no socialist party or when you characterize my position as being worried about anti-capitalist forces – you should know I believe the current system we have to already be a form of socialism, accepted to varying degrees by both parties – which is why I use terms such as crony socialism, rather than the traditional crony capitalism.

It’s not that they feel like suckers.  They knew what they were buying into.  I’m sure those in the know realized Obama would be in the centralized planning game of picking winners and losers.  Campaign funds given Obama in ’08 was viewed by them as an investment that they be considered when legislation affecting them came to the table.  With a president far more ideologically wedded to socialist solutions than most, the usual game just got that much more pricey.