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ABC News’ Jake Tapper To Obama: If Gays Can Die For Our Country Why Can’t They Marry?

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President Obama held a year-end press conference today, and some might have mistook it for a victory lap. The White House had reason to be happy given how they rebounded from a tough mid-term election to pass a lot of legislation during a lame-duck session. ABC News’ Jake Tapper focused on the passing of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, but immediaitely tying it to the looming issue of gay marriage. Obama’s response seemed to keep open the possibility that the Administration’s position might in fact be evolving.

Tapper broached the subject respectfully before adroitly asking “is it intellectually consistent to say that gays and Lesbians should be able to fight and die for this country, but they should not be able to marry the people they love?” President Obama revealed that his feelings about gay marriage are “constantly evolving” citing friends and colleagues of his who are gay and in lasting relationships. Even if the President were to shift positions to supporting the legalization of gay marriage, it is difficult to imagine it getting through a GOP controlled congress in the next two years.

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  • Atticus Draco

    it is difficult to imagine it getting through a GOP controlled congress in the next two years.

    I dont see it being difficult,,
    as long as it’s done right!

    HELL,, as a conservative,, and i think i speak for most conservatives,,
    WE WANT THIS CHIT OUT OF THE WAY!!!

    That being said,,
    THIS AINT ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES!

  • Big Eddie

    Obama will evolve when the polls are right , or if he gets reelected . Until then , he ‘s on both sides , of course .

  • tatboy

    Thank Gawd the MSM is not into pushing agendas… we all know there is NO liberal bias in the MSM.

    P.S. As a side note I am a vocal supporter of same-sex marrage. I am not a supporter of a bias media picking and choosing the agenda thay want to ram down my throat. I can think for myself, thank you very much Jack. Keep your politics to yourself… or go into politics (ala Leslie Stall) and it’s all good.

  • Atticus Draco

    Big Eddie said:
    Obama will evolve when the polls are right , or if he gets reelected . Until then , he ’s on both sides , of course .

    You know,, that’s exactly what i got from his lame a$$ answer!

    First,, i thot it was a good question,, and kinda sly the way he did it;;”Ooooooh good 1″ i thot,,,

    Then when Obama started blabbin’ i immediatly thot,,, “You gotta sniff the polls dont ya buddy”,, lol,, “See how that DADT works out for ya”,,, lol

    GAWD,,
    “Just answer the damn question dude!”

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    Tapper broached the subject respectfully before adroitly asking “is it intellectually consistent to say that gays and Lesbians should be able to fight and die for this country, but they should not be able to marry the people they love?”

    excellent way to frame that question…i thought jake was much better for this week as opposed to christiane.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    Atticus Draco said:
    HELL,, as a conservative,, and i think i speak for most conservatives,,
    WE WANT THIS CHIT OUT OF THE WAY!!!

    do all conservative lie like you do? or is that limited to asshole conservatives?

  • stoogedudes

    Very, very good question, Mr. Tapper. I do hope Pres. Obama changes his opinion on this.

  • PoliticalPAW

    DADT gays thank Barack http://tinyurl.com/37f4s7k & http://tinyurl.com/3x5gjh6 @huffpo for refraining on “military” sodomy banter

    @PoliticalPAW

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: MSM glorified The Nerd in the 80′s and 90′s now in 00′s to the present it’s all Gay Puree!

  • Just4thefax

    stoogedudes said:
    Obama changes his opinion

    Fact: Your the stooge fag!

  • Nacho

    And the slippery slope has begun…

    This is why most conservatives were so adamitly agaisnt repealing DADT. It had nothing to do with the fighting men and women in uniform.

    Now the gays are going to think they’re equal and demand civil rights!!!!1111

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Your the stooge fag!

    The racist bigot strikes again with the requisite errors in grammar. And this asshole claims to be a teacher. LMAO!

  • TangledThorns

    If you’re under 21 and can fight for your country, then why can’t you drink alcohol?

    If a polygamists fight for their country then why can’t they marry?

    See what I did there, Jake?

  • Socialist

    Atticus Draco said:
    it is difficult to imagine it getting through a GOP controlled congress in the next two years.

    I dont see it being difficult,,
    as long as it’s done right!

    HELL,, as a conservative,, and i think i speak for most conservatives,,
    WE WANT THIS CHIT OUT OF THE WAY!!!

    That being said,,
    THIS AINT ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES!

    For dems, it is hard to get through even in a democratic controlled congress.. In both scenarios, Dems do the same amount of work

  • Atticus Draco

    Socialist said:
    For dems, it is hard to get through even in a democratic controlled congress.. In both scenarios, Dems do the same amount of work

    THAT’S RIGHT,, thank you!

  • bealzebubba

    The gay marriage issue is simple. Redefine it into two kinds of marriage: Traditional Marriage and Non-Traditional Marriage. The LGBTs can have what they want and the anti-LGBTs can still have marriage as they view it.

    I still don’t see what the problem…evolve already.

  • CosmosDan

    That’s coming soon and about dam time. All the opposition will be shown to be bigoted nonsense.

  • CosmosDan

    TangledThorns said:
    If you’re under 21 and can fight for your country, then why can’t you drink alcohol?

    If a polygamists fight for their country then why can’t they marry?

    See what I did there, Jake?

    I do see. You screwed it up. If they’re not married, they’re not polygamists are they?

  • notsofast

    Obama’s response seemed to keep open the possibility that the Administration’s position might in fact be evolving.”

    Of course. This coward has no principles about anything.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    PoliticalPAW said:
    DADT gays thank Barack http://tinyurl.com/37f4s7k & http://tinyurl.com/3×5gjh6 @huffpo for refraining on “military” sodomy banter

    @PoliticalPAW

    there’s that bigotry we’ve come to know from some conservatives…you don’t let us down.

  • CosmosDan

    bealzebubba said:
    The gay marriage issue is simple. Redefine it into two kinds of marriage: Traditional Marriage and Non-Traditional Marriage. The LGBTs can have what they want and the anti-LGBTs can still have marriage as they view it.

    I still don’t see what the problem…evolve already.

    even that isn’t necessary. Your marriage is what you think is it and between you and your spouse and your conscience. No other person’s marriage has anything to do with it.

    Consenting adults that love each other should be able to marry period, but we may have to cater to the irrational to get there.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    CosmosDan said:
    I do see. You screwed it up. If they’re not married, they’re not polygamists are they?

    haha, logic…i wonder if he saw what you did there.

  • CosmosDan

    Atticus Draco said:
    I dont see it being difficult,,
    as long as it’s done right!

    It’s difficult because conservatives have to cater to their conservative christian base right or wrong. Wrong in this case.

  • Atticus Draco

    Socialist said:
    For dems, it is hard to get through even in a democratic controlled congress.. In both scenarios, Dems do the same amount of work

    IFi was a legislator,, keeping in mind i;m conservative,, and if it was a legitimate party,, a Tea Part’r,,
    i’m getting on these two top social issues,, immigration and gayness!
    i’m NOT sitting back and waiting for the democrats to dictate and control the narrative of the inevitable!!

    If the Republicans were smart,, and there are times I DONT THINK THEY ARE,, i would get on top of this REAL FAST! I WOULD GET LEGISLATION THROUGH WITH MY LANGUAGE ON IT!

    Thank Gawd i’m NOT a legislator,, ‘coz i dont want the pay cat!!

  • Atticus Draco

    CosmosDan said:
    It’s difficult because conservatives have to cater to their conservative christian base right or wrong. Wrong in this case.

    OH believe me,, i’m not saying that’s the case,, BUT C’MON,,, seriously,, WTF HAVE THE CHRISTIAN BASE DONE FOR US LATELY?!?!?

    tHEY GAVE US A BUSH,, THAT’S WHAT THEY’VE DONE!
    LOL

  • bealzebubba

    @Dan: I agree. The problem comes in the area of red tape…so if there’s a gay couple that want to share the same insurance or need to put together living wills, they’re out of luck.

  • Atticus Draco

    bealzebubba said:
    The gay marriage issue is simple. Redefine it into two kinds of marriage: Traditional Marriage and Non-Traditional Marriage. The LGBTs can have what they want and the anti-LGBTs can still have marriage as they view it.

    I still don’t see what the problem…evolve already.

    LOL,,, really,,, they can even name it any gay thing they want
    PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

  • Just4thefax

    SarahP said:
    strikes again

    Fact: This dog humps my leg on every post! Creepy very creepy!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT5NeZnHcqU

  • omega919

    But gay marriage will lead to people marrying their turtles. Just like gays in the military will lead to a US Army filled with turtle soldiers. Just you wait…. It’ll happen…

  • SarahP

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: This dog humps my leg on every post! Creepy very creepy!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT5NeZnHcqU

    You are a racist and a buffoon and if its not the fun loving crew from storm front humping your leg, then you ain’t getting any.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    ya know, now that i hear the marines are against it i kinda makes me wish i joined the corps instead of being a sailor. see, when you’re in the navy and you are told what to do, you have to do it.
    i guess when you are a marine they ask you if you really feel like doing some push-ups.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    bealzebubba said:
    @Dan: I agree. The problem comes in the area of red tape…so if there’s a gay couple that want to share the same insurance or need to put together living wills, they’re out of luck.

    or if you are sick and you want your spouse or partner with you in the hospital. imagine your loved one being gravely ill in the hospital and you are told you can’t see him or her.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    Atticus Draco said:
    IFi was a legislator,, keeping in mind i;m conservative,, and if it was a legitimate party,, a Tea Part’r,,
    i’m getting on these two top social issues,, immigration and gayness!
    i’m NOT sitting back and waiting for the democrats to dictate and control the narrative of the inevitable!!

    If the Republicans were smart,, and there are times I DONT THINK THEY ARE,, i would get on top of this REAL FAST! I WOULD GET LEGISLATION THROUGH WITH MY LANGUAGE ON IT!

    Thank Gawd i’m NOT a legislator,, ‘coz i dont want the pay cat!!

    i believe they also require a high school diploma.

  • James Nelson

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Your the stooge fag!

    Can’t you at least during the special season of love and faith, can’t you at least for a short time, stop the hatred, stop the bigotry, stop the filth. Just for awhile? I think even other convservatives are embarrassed by you.

  • James Nelson

    Atticus Draco said:
    BUT C’MON,,, seriously,, WTF HAVE THE CHRISTIAN BASE DONE FOR US LATELY?!?!?

    There are many kinds of Christians. There is not a so-called Christian base. There are liberal, conservative, moderate Christians, as evidenced by different denominations, and groups within those denominations. Anyway, cannot you leave “wtf” and other such words out of your conversation for this holy of holy periods of time?

  • Truth

    Atticus Draco said:
    You know,, that’s exactly what i got from his lame a$$ answer! First,, i thot it was a good question,, and kinda sly the way he did it;;”Ooooooh good 1″ i thot,,, Then when Obama started blabbin’ i immediatly thot,,, “You gotta sniff the polls dont ya buddy”,, lol,, “See how that DADT works out for ya”,,, lol GAWD,,“Just answer the damn question dude!”

    It was a baited question. The ink isn’t even dry on DADT. You can enter the service at 18, but you can’t drink until 21. Should we change the laws? They can die for our country, but they can drink in our country? Same principle. This such a controversial issue it was not the time for this kind of question. The media just can’t leave well enough alone.

  • Socialist

    Gay marriage should be legalized and it must be ALLOWED by US. However for a few years, the final decision to marry homosexuals must be in the hands of the religious authority.. And i am very sure the Christians will get over it.. IDK about muslims though.. Oh well, atleast they will legalize gay marriage in 500 years :-P(sarcasm)

  • James Nelson

    At some point years ahead, gay marriage will have been effect for a long time, with no problems. And most Americans will look back at those who opposed it and other benefits for gays, as the same kind of people who opposed equal rights for Arican Americans throughout the first seven decades of the 20th century. Merry Christmas to all.

  • Judge Mental

    I actually agreed with the position on gay marriage that Obama espoused during the 2008 campaign, and now he says his “feelings” on the subject are “evolving.” Why am I not surprised? It seems like his position has changed on nearly every issue on which he claimed to have a moderate view during the campaign.

  • Just4thefax

    James Nelson said:
    special season of love and faith

    Fact: Here you go…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrWyZ0KZuk for you. Once!

  • Just4thefax
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  • Just4thefax

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IrWyZ0KZuk

    Fact: Guitar is intense! Don’t be afraid!

  • cjd ohio 1

    and the fight started the next day

  • Sunnyr

    Gay Marriage is opposed by over 70% of the people in this country and it will not happen any time soon.

  • Sunnyr

    Most Blacks oppose Gay Marriage and this “president” is in a fix. He won’t do anything that is not politically expedient for him.

  • greg454

    Don’t Ask Don’t Tell has nothing to do with same sex marriage. Gays have already served in the military and have proven themselves in battle, so getting rid of DADT is an issue of fairness. Would we tell straight soldiers to hide their wedding bands and pictures of their brides and fiancees? Of course not. If you’re willing to die for your country you shouldn’t be treated like a second-class citizen.

    Same-sex marriage is secondary, and with the exception of immigration, gays can set up power of attorneys that get them lots of the same rights of married people. In fact, powers of attorneys aren’t exclusive to gay people, anyone can use them. The only thing that sucks for gays is that they have no access to mail-order grooms while I can pay some agency $5,000 to hook me up with Russian girls who will marry me for the promise of a greencard. Besides, I know plenty of gays who can’t get a man to date them more than three times, so they’re gonna have a hard time “destroying the institution of marriage” when they can barely get a man to the altar.

    Latino activists attack Fox Broadcast.
    http://politicallyincorrectlibertarian.wordpress.com/2010/12/23/latino-activists-attack-fox-broadcast/

  • Contessa

    Jake “the weasel” also wants to know: “Why is the sky blue, Daddy?”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

    Just4thefax said:
    Fact: Your the stooge fag!

    An unprovoked use of a slur. A paragon of morality and family values right here, people!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

    Socialist said:
    Gay marriage should be legalized and it must be ALLOWED by US. However for a few years, the final decision to marry homosexuals must be in the hands of the religious authority.. And i am very sure the Christians will get over it.. IDK about muslims though.. Oh well, atleast they will legalize gay marriage in 500 years :-P(sarcasm)

    I don’t believe it needs to be in the hands of a ‘religious authority’ at all. Marriage is a legal designation in the United States, it is not necessarily religious. Given judicial precedent and the Equal Protection clause, there is a good argument that preventing homosexuals from obtaining a legal status such as marriage is a violation of their constitutional rights.

    Having said that, there will always be some religious authorities that will never consent to wed homosexuals, just like there are pastors that still refuse to marry inter-racial couples. And, by the First Amendment, that is their right.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

    Sunnyr said:
    Most Blacks oppose Gay Marriage and this “president” is in a fix. He won’t do anything that is not politically expedient for him.

    Well, he has stated that he does not agree with same-sex marriage. He prefers civil-unions. So, I would be pleasantly surprised if he eventually takes up the same-sex marriage banner.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

    Sunnyr said:
    Gay Marriage is opposed by over 70% of the people in this country and it will not happen any time soon.

    Try less than 50%.

    http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-06/us/poll.gay.marriage_1_gay-marriage-americans-favor-new-poll?_s=PM:US

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

    Sunnyr said:
    Gay Marriage is opposed by over 70% of the people in this country and it will not happen any time soon.

    Also, this is one of the reasons why the judiciary exists. They protect the rights of the minority from the oppression of the majority.

  • Bot

    Marriage reflects the natural moral and social law evidenced the world over. As the late British social anthropologist Joseph Daniel Unwin noted in his study of world civilizations, any society that devalued the nuclear family soon lost what he called “expansive energy,” which might best be summarized as society’s will to make things better for the next generation. In fact, no society that has loosened sexual morality outside of man-woman marriage has survived.

    Analyzing studies of cultures spanning several thousands of years on several continents, Harvard sociologist Pitirim Sorokin found that virtually all political revolutions that brought about societal collapse were preceded by a sexual revolution in which marriage and family were devalued by the culture’s acceptance of homosexuality.

    When marriage loses its unique status, women and children most frequently are the direct victims. Giving same-sex relationships or out-of-wedlock heterosexual couples the same special status and benefits as the marital bond would not be the expansion of a right but the destruction of a principle. . If the one-man/one-woman definition of marriage is broken, there is no logical stopping point for continuing the assault on marriage.

  • http://pouredwithpleasure.com obillo

    Colby: not “some might have mistook it ” but “some might have MISTAKEN it”. As for Jake Tapper’s “If gays can . . .” apparently Tapper thinks he’s come up with an original line. Boy is he goling to be disappointed!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Westover/1496648721 Tony Westover

    Ineffective and senseless grandstanding. Gay marriage is a state’s power issue. You might as well bitch to the president about gambling and sales tax while you’re wasting your time.

  • eingriff

    Let them die instead.

    Put the 69 Faggot Brigade in front of the line.

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