Tommy,
Did anyone ask Carney why past press releases on Solyndra are being scrubbed?  Seems like a media site would be very interested in that story. 

And did anyone ask if it’s true that the recipient of the money was a major Obama bundler?

“I can’t help but wonder if the rest of America has forgotten that the oil industry, barely a year ago, almost extincted all life in our oceans.”

Huh?  These Obama poll numbers and the pretty complete failure of his Presidency are really getting to you aren’t they?  You’ve been increasingly irrational and shall we say, loose with the facts, over the last few months.  I can only imagine what you’ll be writing as the election draws even closer.  Prolly something about how Republicans are responsible for rape & murder in Flint, Michigan!

Good Lord .
 Obama is up to his ears in Solyndra and SunPower . He was ordered to turn over his e-mail and is stonewalling Congress on that .

Fisker is making a car that will sell for $89,000 .Why on God’s green Earth is the USA putting taxpayer money into that ?

The phony green energy scandals are multiplying and will not go away .

And Goolsby admitted yesterday that Cash for Clunkers was a bad idea .

“companies like Solyndra and Fisker”

Our government is good at wasting money.

‘SOYLYNDRA IN MINIATURE’: TN TRUCK STOP GIVEN $424,000 IN STIMULUS FUNDS GOES BROKE

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/car-company-us-loan-builds-cars-finland/story?id=14770875

To get the real facts and see how bad it makes hacks like Tommy look

Biden needs to take back his nonsense on that and go take a job as a conductor on a low speed train somewhere far away .

 
“Biden’s absurd claims about rising rape and murder rates”http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/bidens-absurd-claims-about-rising-rape-and-murder-rates/2011/10/20/gIQAkq0y1L_blog.html

Hey, a $97,000 sport car for rich liberals from a company that’s losing money.  At least Leo DiCaprio got his.

“Fisker is more than a year behind rolling out its $97,000 luxury
vehicle bankrolled in part with DOE money. While more are promised soon,
just 40 of its Karma cars (below) have been manufactured and only two
delivered to customers’ driveways, including one to movie star Leonardo
DiCaprio. Tesla’s SEC filings reveal the start-up has lost money every
quarter.”

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/car-company-us-loan-builds-cars-finland/story?id=14770875

Oh, Al Gore’s venture capital firm invested heavily in Fisker?  How nice.

Haha.  Sure.  That would take, I dunno, an actual journalist.  Of which there are about 2 in the WH Press Corps.  The rest, like Tommy, serve at the pleasure of the POTUS.  

“Extincted”? I thinked that might be bad word used.

So far, no liberals to comment on this.

Good. :)

Yeah but it’s okay because the car is reeeeeaaaaallly cool and it’s powered by unicorn tears.  

“There was no facility in the United states that could make them ” BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!

“I can’t help but wonder if the rest of America has forgotten that the oil industry, barely a year ago, almost extincted all life in our oceans.”
Hey Tommy have you been down to the Gulf lately?  Fishing is great! 

How is it that the most effected states are asking the courts to intervene and force the Obama administration to resume drilling in the Gulf?  Is the real story not the fact that BP was able to pay it’s way through the approval and inspection processes, did they not line the pockets of not only the federal government but of environmental concerns as well such as the sierra club and others…  Before the spill were they not showered with awards as being an environmentally friendly energy giant even though theirs was the worst record in the industry?  They paid off any and everybody that would take their dirty money and the greenies and government provided plenty of takers.  

The gulf spill is a story about corporate greed and malfeasance, not one that describes the ability of the oil industry to safely drill for oil.  Tommy the fact is that the green industry is simply not ready, for every green job created the private sector will lose 2.2 unrelated jobs…  This country needs the oil, we will continue to use fossil fuels well into the future, no matter the aspirations of the president or of his green disciples.  It is not like there is a real alternative!  We can continue to send our money overseas and continue to devaluate our dollar or we can produce our own while creating jobs, wealth, and strengthening our dollar.   This president is sending billions to Brazil and Mexico saying that we will be their best customer…  but we refuse to exploit our own wealth of resources which keeps capital in this country and helps to create American jobs, that is just screwed up!.  

What kills me about you guys is that you act like sending all our money overseas and lighting up the Fed’s printing presses is a responsible direction for this country and for the next generation, you never see the destruction it does to this country and it’s economy.  

http://www.juandemariana.org/pdf/090327-employment-public-aid-renewable.pdf

They gotta get their talking point from the Daily Kos first.

Not only that.  Via Forbes:

— The Fisker Karma electric car, developed mainly with your tax money
so that a bunch of rich VC’s wouldn’t have to risk any real money, has
rolled out with an nominal EPA MPGe of 52.Not bad? Unfortunately,
it’s a sham. This figure is calculated using the grossly flawed EPA
process that substantially underestimates the amount of fossil fuels
required to power the electric car, as I showed in great depth in an earlier Forbes.com article.
In short, the EPA methodology leaves out, among other things, the
conversion efficiency in generating the electricity from fossil fuels in
the first place.
In the Clinton administration, the Department of
Energy (DOE) created a far superior well to wheels MPGe metric the
honestly compares the typical fossil fuel use of an electric vs.
gasoline car.
As I calculated in my earlier Forbes article, one
needs to multiply the EPA MPGe by .365 to get a number that truly
compares fossil fuel use of an electric car with a traditional gasoline
engine car on an apples to apples basis. In the case of the Fisker
Karma, we get a true MPGe of 19. This makes it worse than even the city
rating of a Ford Explorer SUV.
Congrats to the Fisker Karma, which
now joins corn ethanol in the ranks of heavily subsidized supposedly
green technologies that are actually worse for the environment than
current solutions.

NUMMI,NUMMI,NUMMI,NUMMI,NUMMI,NUMMI,NUMMI,NUMMI,NUMMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“Press Secretary Jay Carney responded to a story that’s scorching up the conservative blogosphere as the next Solyndra-style “scandal” to emerge from a loan guarantee program begun by George W. Bush,”

It’s cute how Tommy tries to put some of the blame on Bush.  And, it’s curious how when talking about the deaths of dictators, he doesn’t write “a kicking ass and taking names program begun by George W. Bush…”.

There are several closed GM plants across the country. I am sure they would be willing to sell one.

I do enjoy them tracking us on other threads though.

I didn’t know I had a GPS tracker on me though.

It’s the old style Chicago Community-Organizing WAY!

Just How far does this Administration’s CORRUPTION go?
How’s that (LMAO!) Hope & Change working out for the country?

Go get em’, NEW GOP!

Remember that age-old addage, “You can never have too many special prosecutors”!

If all works out to appearances, maybe we can make a trend of this - that is, any time the country elects a Democratic president, we’ll IMPEACH them!
LMAO!

wow, tommy said who the “program” was started under, but not who “approved the loan”……guess its not important to the propaganda, oops i mean story

I’ll admit to finding great pleasure in driving them absolutely insane with rage.  You gotta get your kicks wherever you can!

The did that with Solyndra.  Yeah it started under Bush and he said NO WAY, it’s too risky.   Then Barry rammed it through.  Facts are pesky things. 

Full facts and disclosure are not necessary in this story. I’m sure Tommy want’s his reader to be fully informed…. and would never try and trick them into believing a false narrative. After all that information is readily available in other articles if you search hard enough so it’s not necessary to disclose them here.

When have you ever seen Tommy be picky about facts and full disclosure before? That never happens.

;)

I think it would be easier to list the people who got money from Obama that WERE NOT bundlers. Much shorter list. ;)

I have concluded that Tommy is a very biased reporter. His dream is to work at MSNBC.

The fact of media stories and internet stories being scrubbed is no suprise; many stories that are to the negative of the administration are even being “corrected” with the deletion attempts from official records to cover up the actions taken for bribery, graft, and outright theft of money by the admin and their own supporters.

Obama’s admin with him at the helm will be marked in history up to this time, as the most corrupt of the admin’s in this countries history. God help us if he wins one more term, the nation will be finished then.

I thought it was pixy farts?

Palin Facebook post on the matter. Apparently she linked to this story yesterday on her Twitter and Twitter went insane over it. I don’t belong to Twitter. Enjoy!

http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/american-crony-capitalism-brings-jobs-to-finland/10150340167778435

Wow, TC is really pathetic. And to think he runs this site.

I guess they decided to build in Finland when they saw what Obama did to Boeing.

If an actual news journalist who cared, and an editor who would not kill the story of the investigation due to political motivations or orders from the bosses, this could be one more scandle brought across the floor and into the light to show the destruction and revisionist history of the administration.

I am laughing because not one of the left wing liberals say anything on this thread…They seem to have disappeared in thin air!  You know they will just hide their heads in a hole thinking it will just go away.

Either that or they will start calling everyone racist…LMAO!

They’re all over on the Cain thread, purging their racist thoughts for the day. 

They’re not being scrubbed. They replaced the firm in question with the name of the firm who bought the firm in question.

So which is it you have a problem with — facts? free markets? both?

WERE IS MY!! UAW,YOU’R SILENCE IS DEAFENING!!

) —
Someone affiliated with the Department of Energy has been going back to
make changes to press releases posted on the Internet weeks and months
ago, CNBC has found.The changes occurred in two press releases
from the Department of Energy’s loan guarantee program — the same
program that has been the center of controversy surrounding the failed
solar company Solyndra.
Both were changed to remove the name of a
company that has received negative press attention in recent days,
SunPower, and replace it with the name of another company, NRG Energy.
Generally,
it is not considered correct procedure to revise old press releases
retroactively on the Web. More commonly, government agencies will issue a
new press release with a current date explaining any changes that have
occurred.
In the April case, the Department of Energy loan
programs office announced in a press release on April 12 “conditional
commitment” to a $1.187 billion loan guarantee to support the California
Valley Solar Ranch project, which it said was “sponsored by SunPower
Corporation.”
But that release was later changed on one website to
say the project was “sponsored by NRG Energy.” The date on the release
remained “April 12, 2011.”

Btw, this is just one example of things being scrubbed from the internet.  Does that concern you at all?

You know what their comments are going to be.  They’ll talk about Bush and then call you a racist!  lol

“crazed sex poodle” gore doesn’t need wall street as long as he’s got his OBOZO crony in power. With only a tiny portion of his profits from the $529 MILLION loan OBOZO made to the company that will build electric cars in Finland (in which Gore was an investor) he bought his new mufti-million dollar coastal estate in the peoples republic of califonia.

Now, that’s nice “work” if you can get it.

The Gulf is not great. I grew up on the Texas coast, which got the least of it, and people are still complaining as recently as a month or two ago of crap washing on shore that appears to be from the spill. I went to Louisiana recently and asked about it and multiple people have said the coasts are still devastated despite the huge BP propaganda effort to make everything seem hunky dory. If you actually grew up on the water, I don’t know how you can act like it’s not a big deal still. 

Mr. Christopher, it has become obvious from the many postings you have done that not only would you be pleased to see the Obamas occupy the White House for several more years to come but you would also like to replace Jay Carney when he chooses to pursue other endeavors.

This is another example of the rampant cronyism and corruption that exists in all branches of our government. 

Consider also what just happened in a federal court in
Texas.  A Dallas business owner was
involved in a civil dispute and paid millions of dollars to lawyers, and when
he objected to additional fees after settling the case, they had a “friendly”
judge seize all of his possessions, without any notice or hearing, and
essentially ordered him under “house arrest” as an involuntary servant to the
lawyers. The business owner has been under this “servant” order for
10 months and is prohibited from owning any possessions, prohibited from
working, etc..

…and some quotes from the judge:

THE COURT: “I’m telling you don’t scr-w with me. You
are a fool, a fool, a fool, a fool to scr-w with a federal judge, and if you
don’t understand that, I can make you understand it. I have the force of the
Navy, Army, Marines and Navy behind me.”

THE COURT: “You realize that order is an order of the
Court. So any failure to comply with that order is contempt, punishable by lots
of dollars, punishable by possible jail, death”

http://www.lawinjustice.com has an explanation of this case.

Tommy, Tommy, Tommy – just once could you not protect this administration and be our watchdog instead of being a lapdog?

I’ve expressed that theory as well.  Preposterous falsehoods like this:
“…while conservatives root around renewable energy-related companies like Solyndra and Fisker, I can’t help but wonder if the rest of America has forgotten that the oil industry, barely a year ago, almost extincted all life in our oceans. Why isn’t that being factored into the equation in the pushback against these stories, or the Republicans’ plans to gut any and all regulations that might prevent it from happening again?”
are just what the bigwigs at MSNBC are looking for.  Keep it up Tommy, you’re doing great!

Lol!! You Republicons have the Koch Brothers to be your “watchdogs”… they’ll tell you what to believe and what to fear!!

I love these articles that bring out the Republicon crybabies!! Tommy this, Tommy that… you guys cry more than a little girl who scraped her knee!! Lol!!

Fox Nation called and they want all their crybaby commenters back!! Lol!!

The fishing is great here in Florida, and you are right in that there will be long lasting effects from that spill, especially in the wetlands and marshes along the coasts. The oil will set into those areas and it will be many years before they will completely recover.  But the bottom line is still that we need oil and China, Mexico, and Brazil will all be drilling in the Gulf, so are we just going to pay them to extract the same oil that we could be extracting?  Are we going to trust them to be better stewards of our Gulf than we will be…  Make no mistake, that oil is going to be taken from the gulf, it is just a matter of who is going to do it.  

What I said about BP is absolutely true, they have the worst safety and spill record of any major oil company and they had paid for the endorsements of environmental groups to bolster their public image into one of being perceived as a green energy company.  http://www.examiner.com/ecopolitics-in-los-angeles/green-lobby-stained-by-bp-oil-money BP is not representative of the industry they were by far the biggest abusers of public trust of any of the major oil companies. They were successful in bullying the governmental agencies who were supposed to be regulating them.  The Oil Spill was disastrous  but the gulf will recover.  It was caused for the reasons I mentioned, because of greed and corporate malfeasance.  The governors of Louisiana, and Texas understand this.  They were the states the hardest hit, yet they are crying foul at the Obama administration because his policies have devastated the oil industry.  Obama has defied court orders and Mary Landreau (D) has vocally challenged the Obama administration on these issues.  

Yes I love the water having spent most of my life in Florida and the Caribbean.  But I also know that it makes no sense whatsoever for this country to not develop it’s energy resources.  This has been a political football for far too long, it is time for the politicians to stop playing games and take their responsibilities seriously.  They are entrusted with the welfare of this nation, and they just don’t seem to take this responsibility seriously, rather they cater to special interests…  Starving this country of energy especially when our economic future is in question makes no sense.

Finally, President Obama’s “out of synch with reality” desperate moves to incite class warfare by chanting … “millionaires and billionaires should pay their fair share of taxes”, and siding with the “Occupy Wall Street” protesters, true representatives of the young “entitlement” class bred by the liberal madrassas we call public schools.

Reasonable and prudent taxpaying voters are not inclined to throw
good money after bad–expecting different results from someone like
this, who wants to repeat prior failed actions while running up the
already bloated national debt.

And that is exactly why America has “frozen” President Barack Obama’s “credit line.” Democrat-Dominated Senate “Freezes” President Obama’s “Credit Line” -

Tommy, Congrats, You have officially become the Ed Shultz of Mediaite… Your not quite Olbermann, but your getting close

No, it doesn’t bother me at all, due to simple facts. If you actually listened to CNBC, it was caused by a firm managing communications doing a save-replace for SunPower in press releases…since the firm was acquired by NRG.

In case you’re wondering:

A) SunPower isn’t controversial at all
B) NRG burns fossil fuels too so that should make you feel better.

I know people here hate solar power (irrationally, since for a lot of you, it’s cheaper than buying electricity from your local utility) but that’s the whole “conspiracy theory” here debunked.

I have to agree here that this story is a non story.Fisker (I’m not sure why it has quotes around it in this article)has facilities in this country and is looking to sell electric vehicles here.Their cars are stylish and well made as well as well regarded.

I will say that if I was in charge I’d have a condition that if it turned out this money went out of the country it would have to be repaid and make sure we had access to information to confirm that.

Gosh Tommy,does your back hurt yet?
Where is your article on Obama inheriting the SOFA for removal of troops fromIraq and why the heck Obama didn’t credit Bush forthat accomplishment today? Or is that toomuch to ask of you?

Geez

M, all these annoying questions ! 
Remember Obama & Co. are perfect and the rest of us don’t understand. The US needs electric car manufacturer like LA needs another plastic surgeon. Fisker’s step 1 is too build cars for that hated 1%, you know Wall Street types, trial lawyers and celebrities like Oprah. Who else can afford $ 100,000+ price.Step 2 is to build a  cheaper ($40,000+ ) sedan. Know any other global manufacturers who have the same idea ? With Joe Biden backing you and the legion on Obama bundlers, what could go wrong ?Wags already refer to this as “Solyndra with wheels”. 

The only people who can afford this car are the “evil” 1%ers.

Fisker purchased a plant in Delaware to be used for the next model they produce.  It is currently being retooled for that purpose. 

While there are plenty of automotive manufacturing plants in the US.  None are Contract based plants that build on behalf of other manufacturers.  The Valmet plant in Finland builds for multiple different OEMs and is an ideal contract assembler to be used until the Delaware plant is retooled.

I think you’re not so clear on the distinction between journalism and propoganda. But then, for those of your bent, that’s a feature not a bug.

Hey, Tommy did a good thing here: he showed us who among the WH press corp are partisan hacks and how easily Carney handles them. That’s genuine media coverage.

Make sure you eat extra oysters and shrimp from the Gulf.  Yummy!  Extra nutrients.  

You’re not even up to propogandist; that’s just reverberation there.

When propogandists try to spin bullshit, they never show the links. The idea is to defeat your ability to question. Orwell said that would keep on happening more and more, and so Fox News, and so Internet propogandists.

Anyway, gotta show the links if you expect not be seen as a complete hack.

Politics aside, how man BMW,s, Mercedes, or Lexus for example have you seen on the road ? Simply check any web site and see how many cars cost equivalent to a Fisker with half the amount of environmental thought behind its price.
I guess there are millions of “wall street types, and fat cat lawyers all over this country.” 
Keep informed and not so closed mind, facts are power. 
Who wanted to do biz with this new company when they ran around asking everyone to partner up for manufacturing in the U.S….. none except Europeans = fact.
I have lots more facts that you can easily find if you screen the b.s. and the Obama hate.

Monday morning quarter back :)
Check the dates of when those GM plants were made available and also check the GM execs  responses to inquiries about using those pants for anything :) 
Oh wait, they bought one :)

 Exactly. NUMMI produced cars for GM & TOYOTA for 25 years. Founded by GM & TOYOTA as an independent commpany.And for time we were the most efficint plant in the world. 
I was there for the last 17 years.

Thanks Yoda, I’ll be looking for that new Karma in your driveway… Oh! wait you can’t afford that new electric car can you, well guess what not many people can, especially the most of us who are struggling in this economy.  

Maybe you haven’t noticed but even the crappy Volt is outside of most peoples price range.  It’s like I said Yoda, that oil is not going to stay in the Gulf, so let’s just let Cuba, Mexico, Petrobras, and China take it all.  

How does one “extincted all life” exactly?

Tommy-what a complete Jack Ass. First – “but while conservatives root around renewable energy-related companies like Solyndra and Fisker…” Tommy, ABC News exclusively broke this story last night. You failed to mention this inconvenient truth. Sure you didn’t mean mean to omit this fact. ABC has wisened up to the fact that the BHO administration is on a bullet train to being the worst President in our history. Check out today’s latest Gallup of BHO’s approval. The only worse approval rating on his time line is Jimmy Carter. Sorry Jimmy – you record will soon be shattered. Before ABC reported, there was not a single conservative blogger rooting this cluster! Also-I live on the gulf coast. We need to get off oil, but this is going to take many years to solve. You Judy don’t sa oil is bad so let’s quit producing it -unless your name is BHO or Tommy Christopher. It is apparent BHO is clueless. How do I know – just check out CBS and ABC random acts of journalism on Fast & Furious, Solyndra, and now Fisker. When CBS & ABC have bailed on BHO, we all better duck. And by the way – PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE show us how and where the oil spill “almost extincted all of our oceans!!!!!!!!!!” The oil spill occurred in the Gulf Of Mexico. ALL OF OUR OCEANS!!!!! Tommy-please call David Axelrod and ask him for a job writing press releases for BHO. You don’t need a resume – simply provide the links to every single article you have written that referenced the BHO administration. ALMOST EXTINCTED ALL OF OUR OCEANS!!! You’re such a blatantly lying tool. We were eating seafood from the Gulf of Mexico last summer. The Gulf fishing this year has been stronger than ever. When I see your name Tommy Christopher – I look forward to reading propagandized fiction. This is liberal journalism at it’s finest.

Just hope the next oil spill doesn’t end up on the Florida coast. If it’s too deep to plug it up, it’s too deep to drill for it.   The price will come down, not all of them will be sports cars. Those HD TVs are a lot less expensive these days.  

Over 90% of the people who work for Fisker Automotive are layed off auto workers from Detroit!! Over 90% of the suppliers are from Detroit Michigan as well !!! They have already created over 600 jobs in California at the Headquarters in Anaheim!! I was layed off from Chrysler in December of 2008, there were no jobs to be found anywhere and I mean anywhere, I was offered a job at Fisker Automotve in 2010 after I lost my house, my vehicles collecting food stamps and my marriage due to the poor economy. This company has givin my family a second chance to live again and helped out hundreds of suppliers with new business to help them out from becoming bankrupted as well. Its a win win situation for everybody, the government invested money into tomorrows future that will payoff today!! We need to focus on jobs here in America and the Fisker Company is all about that, so the next time you put that Company down like that your putting down hard working people who are Americans that are doing what they do best “DESIGN AND BULD STATE OF THE ART AUTOMOBILES” !!!!!

Yeah!  How DARE the Obama administration give sixty umptillion dollars to a company like Fisker, instead of giving it to Halliburton!

What are you, some sort of liberal crank?  Flat panel TV sets are still $8000 each, MINIMUM!

Where are you shopping?  

(for some reason, can’t reply to Yoda) I only shop at Rush Limbaugh-approved stores, of course!

This goes directly to Obama .

Taxpayers Will Get $0 Return From Solyndra Auction

“…perhaps the most controversial aspect of the Solyndra loan scandal is the Department of Energy’s unprecedented decision to restructure the company’s loan agreement in way that granted priority to private investors over taxpayers with respect to the first $75 million recovered from Solyndra liquidation.
Well, Lachlan Markay of the Hertiage Foundation reports that Heritage Global Partners (no relation), the firoverseeing the Solyndra auction, has told him that the money they expect to raise “will not be anywhere near” $75 million.
 In effect, that means taxpayers will not see a single dime of their money back from this sale. Not to worry, though, because private investors like Argonaut Ventures, the investment arm of the Kaiser Family Foundation operated by Oklahoma billionaire and major Obama fundraiser George Kaiser, ought to do just fine.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/280989/taxpayers-will-get-0-return-solyndra-auction-andrew-stiles

“the oil industry almost extincted all life in our oceans…” Wow, that just about captures the reality of what actually took place.  To have predicted that as the spill was taking place would have been alarmist; to state that after what we now know did happen to these robust and complex ecosystems is ignorance (or chicane). Also, does anyone here know the difference between tax credits that allow you to keep profits you make and which are available to all industries —  the essence of the so-called oil industry giveaways; taxpayers loans that will have to be written off.

We will never change in america until journalists like the one in this story stop defending cronyism by the democrats but excoriate the same actions by Republicans….  In the end all journalists at mediate and the MSM are serving at the pleasure of the president now and that sets us up for more bailouts…..

I don’t know whether to feel sorry or sad for this POTUS…sorry teleprompter

http://tinyurl.com/4xphq52