Maybe Joe and Squeeka can discuss that later on their revamped 3 hour radio show .

Joe seems to flip his toupee on a regular basis .

Smart of them to bring on Axelrod to get an unbiased opinion of the Republican debate .
Might as well get Podesta ‘s or Trumka ’s  views .

There are many times when Joe Scarborough has his head up his butt; Like the day that he claimed that tax cuts Keynesian.

Newsflash – Scarborough attacks a conservative.  Oh wait, he does that daily.

It’s true. She is a religious nut that just repeats talking points and offers no real solutions.

The real jokes are her supporters.

Which is more of a joke, Bachmann’s candidacy or Morning Joe?

My money’s on you, Joe.

Which is more of a joke, Bachmann’s candidacy or Morning Joe?

My money’s on you, Joe.

Sure, there’s not an actual policy position in her head. Like there’s not a firing synapse in yours.

I wonder what will happen when Rick Perry throws his hat in the pot?

I wonder what will happen when Rick Perry throws his hat in the pot?

Hey, when is that show coming off hiatus?

Yeah, unlike our sitting President who repeats talking points and offers no real solutions. But don’t worry. He and Jay Carney promise he’ll be making some “recommendations” real soon on reforming entitlement spending.

As for Bachmann, I’ve been saying since she announced her candidacy that she didn’t have a prayer at the nomination. She’s doing this to raise her own national profile(which she’s succeeded at BTW) and maybe if she’s lucky get tapped for the VP slot. She’s been in the House for only 4 years and her party’s been in the minority for most of that time. She never served as mayor or governor. So her legislative and executive experience is practically non-existent. The last person elected President with that type of record(or lack thereof) was Barack Obama. And we see how that turned out.

So while I think it’s unfair for Morning Joke to be calling anyone else a “joke”, I do agree that Bachmann’s candidacy is ultimately a publicity stunt. The nominee will be either Mittens, Perry, or Palin if she enters. Any of them will beat Obama who a year from now will be so toxic even his own party will secretly be wishing he’d disappear for good. Bachmann will return to the House and….well, she’ll do whatever it is she does.

My day just isn’t complete until I know how Joe feels about things.

Which Republican does Joe like?

He’ll be neck-and-neck with Mittens in the polls unless he has a major gaffe in his first week(ala Newt’s Paul Ryan diss) or a lifeless, pathetic announcement speech(ala Huntsman).

Joe earned his gold star from Phil Griffin and the WH. He should be promoted. In a single rant, he insulted all the the Iowa republicans who go to caucaus and do their duty every four years, every GOP candidate who won the Iowa primary vote specially Mike Huckabee.
Joe totally lied. Bachman never said that ‘I wish the federal government had defaulted’. Mediaite should post the video clip of Bachmann’s answer.
Joe! what happened to all the Democarts who voted to raise debt ceiling under George W, one of the Democrat was Sen Obama.
We heard your rant against Palin. You just can not tolerate socially conservatives because of your own personal failings. I understand Joe is bitter. Lori Klausutis was found dead. He had to resign without completing his term and divorce his wife. For a pretend conservative, adultry was to be no virtue.

Joe is getting nervous that Bachman can actually win.

Joe Scarborough: The Queen of Rage!

Like the old saying goes . . . . .. .  It takes one to know one.

Responses like Bachmans is one of the main reasons for our downgrade, she and the people clapping are too stupid to admit it…She claims the people are behind her, no we’re not, Michelle..I hate to agree with Joe, but she is becoming a joke, just like Palin…Even though I’m disappointed in some things about President Obama, the thought of any of those people on stage running the country is terrifying…….

If Bachmann doesn’t win the nomination who is going to stand up for our light bulb rights?

She is a joke.  She doubled down on her stupid debt default meme on the same day that S&P said the exact opposite.Pawlenty probably won’t be around for much longer, but you are going to hear over and over again how thin her resume is from the other candidates.T-Paw should have said, “We’ve tried letting a legislator with a tissue thin resume try to run the country and how has that worked out?”

Bachmann pushes the political spectum right. Many of these candidates are fodder for the liberal propaganda machines. The time and money wasted by progressive organizations trying to assassinate the character of each one is immense. The real candidate? Doesn’t matter at this point, what does matter is watching the liberal propaganda machine lose credibility, money, time, effort and political power. Thanks MSDNC.

It was brutal but lets also be honest

Does anyone realistically, logically, and reasonably think that Bachmann, with her far right ideology, head ache statements about history, and her inability to work with all sides of congress, can win the nomination and then the general election?
 

No. No. No. Not a joke.

Bat sht crazy Bachmann is serious.

Seriously f-up up there in her two brain cells.

As to her followers, they are working hard to bring back slavery to America.

I don’t think anyone really cares all that much at the moment. Everyones still jockeying for position and getting their toes wet.

Maybe Rick Perry or Palin if she finishes her tour of duty…

She makes for good headlines, and that whole “media narrative” bullshit, but she has no realistic chance of winning the nomination for anything – P or VP.

The reason for the downgrade is we’re adding a trillion and a half in new debt every year under this administration and there’s no end in sight, even after that so-called compromise they made a couple weeks ago. Bachmann wanted to stop the deficit spending. And since a balanced budget amendment is a non-starters for the Democrat Party who apparently believe we can just print these trillions of dollars out of thin air, the only recourse was to refuse to budge on a debt ceiling hike. Then the federal government would be forced to live within its means. It was “extreme” to use a word already made tired by libs, but what other choice was there for someone claiming to be a fiscal conservative?

And BTW, she IS right that the people are behind her on the debt ceiling. Every poll showed a majority of Americans(sometimes up to 75-80%) did not want it raised.

The light bulb line might’ve seemed silly if taken out of context, but it’s a microcosm of how out-of-control and intrusive the federal government has become. Seriously, now we’re being told what kind of light bulbs we can use in our homes? And the ones we’re being forced to buy require an emergency team in hazmat suits to show up at our doorstep if God forbid we drop them and mercury leaks out? Personally I’m glad some folks like Bachmann and Rand Paul are pointing out how absurd this is. Not to mention corrupt since corporations like GE stand to profit from this overreach.

Michelle is too socially conservative for me, but she’s a very bright, articulate woman.  The US right now has the same over-leveraged issue that led Italy and UK to near disaster.  A default would have woken up the idiot politicians to make the tough decisions.  Clearly, even a first-ever downgrade STILL hasn’t done it.  Congress is on vacation. 

Scarborough is mad because he helped create these problems, yet can’t see that without tough choices today, we’re the UK and Greece tomorrow.  I don’t agree with default, but I understand that a crisis today that leads to tough choices today, is a better option than waiting five years for medicare to be virtually eliminated.   Again, if Greece had a default five yrs ago, they’d be better off then to run out of money and go through massive, deep forced austerity.   

The irony being that she said this the same day as S&P said it was people like her that caused the problem.

“That a country even has such voices, albeit a minority, is something notable,” he added. “This kind of rhetoric is not common amongst AAA sovereigns.”http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61147.html

Epic fail!

No, you are the real joke, you and your religious bigotry, troll.

Bigger joke?  Bachmann candidacy or congress ‘on vacation’ after the first-ever US credit rating downgrade?  We’re in a second recession as we speak and the fed is telling us it’s going to go on for four years, and this is the problem?  

Scarborough lost his seat in Congress because of bizarre outbursts like this. He is one of the Leftwing Media’s “useful idiots” as long as he sings their anti-Conservative tune.  The ad hominem attacks against Bachmann by the media jackals have boomeranged against the Left and hugely helped Bachmann.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/how-attacking-michele-bachmann-is-making-her-stronger/2011/07/27/gIQAWdz4cI_blog.html
Whenever the press attacks Bachmann, she “gets a flood of support and money. She becomes ‘Every Woman,’ a misunderstood Tea Party mother of five facing down an elitist, arrogant, Obama-leaning press corps.” The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
7/19/11 The Public Policy Polling national poll:Bachmann 21%; Mitt Romney 20%

How much legislation did Barry sponsor and how many times did he vote “present”?

I think the critique is fair. I was surprised at how very poorly Representative Bachmann performed last night. I had expected much better. And, it’s not as if the field is all that strong. Kane, Sanitarium and T-Paw were undisciplined, erratic, defensive and petulant. Sanitarium was particularly bad last night, but the bar is very low for him. T-Paw: Second dismal performance. I suspect he starts overtly angling for VP soon.

The loony side of Paul re-surfaced last night. Although, I tend to agree with him on more issues than any of the other aspirants, you could see the lunacy kick in when he began to discuss Iran.

The Newt actually made some sense, and on debate points, he was probably the strongest.

Huntsmann was a wave of contradictions and a nervous wreck. I admire so much about him, I hate to say it, but I think he needs to find an exit if this performance continues.

Willard is in coasting mode, and the field is so weak, he might just coast into the nomination.

The real losers, however were the moderator and panel. Baier was stiff, uncomfortable, nervous and too often tongue-tied.

Wallace was Wallace, and that is never a good thing.

The woman from the Examiner. God-awful! Completely tied to her notes, never adjusting to the tone or the topic. Wooden.

York was acceptable, however.

On the whole, the evening was an example of failed American Exceptionalism.

It’s Iowa.  I’m not surprised to see a bunch of hillbillies in Iowa applaud such a destructive and insane comment as the one she put out there.  Those hillbillies see her as their hillbilly leader.  Problem for crazy-eyes Bachmann is once she gets out of Iowa and into the real world, she’ll see there ain’t many that want someone like her (very limited intellectual capabilities) as the leader of the free world.  Goodbye crazy.

er they’re actually MAKING money off her.. she moves numbers just like Palin and Trump do… magazines , web traffic, tv rating up up up when “crazy eyes” is on… you think people watch , read, or click on santorum, pawlenty, paul, cain, heck or even romney ? absolutely not…..she’s bad for your partys overall image and good for clicks… 

You just wrote the definitive review of last night’s debate. :-)

the religious bigotry comes from the far right who think that Mormons are evil.

We already have slavery in this country…it’s the politicians taking money from workers to buy the votes of people who do nothing but eat, drink and be merry 24/7.

Bachman IS a joke.So is Palin and perhaps most or even all Republican candidates right now.Why? Because none of them so far has actually said things and supported ideas that will draw enough votes in this country to get elected.Many Republican hopefuls haven’t even said or supported ideas that will get them the nomination,like Bachman,who has no hope in hell of being nominated.

Regardless of Republican talking points and sound bites,actions or inactions in Congress and any other actions that clearly revolve around the hope of being re-elected,at the end of the day Republicans will want a candidate that stands a snowball’s chance in hell of being elected.That is not Bachman,it’s not Palin either,and both of them are irrelevent and have been for quite some time.The only reason we all keep hearing about them is that they make for “good televison” and supply Democrats with targets and talking points.

It’s unfortunate.Republicans actually have a chance to win if they can field a candidate that doesn’t turn off independents and the less radical Republicans.Obama could have a really rough ride ahead because of the economy and many other aspects of his term,himself and his administration but if Republicans insist on fielding a candidate that appeals to a narrow group of voters Obama will win fairly easily.

I don’t know what scares me more,Obama’s second term (a repeat of the first term) or a Republican or mostly Republican controlled Congress and a Republican President.I suspect that is how many voters will feel on election day.

Do you have problems with reading comprehension Resident Conservative?

Here.  I’ll let you try again and post my last sentence again:  T-Paw should have said, “We’ve tried letting a legislator with a tissue thin resume try to run the country and how has that worked out?”

Maybe you need to have another cup of coffee.

LOL

So people like Michel Bachmann was responsible for the downgrade?

You are so truly stupid, benighted and ignorant!

”
We lowered our long-term rating on the U.S. because we believe that the
prolonged controversy over raising the statutory debt ceiling and the related fiscal policy debate indicate that further near-term progress containing the growth in public spending, especially on entitlements, or on reaching an agreement on raising revenues is less likely than we previously assumed and will remain a contentious and fitful process. We also believe that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration agreed to this week falls short of the amount that we believe is necessary to stabilize the general government debt burden by the middle of the decade.
Our lowering of the rating was prompted by our view on the rising public
debt burden and our perception of greater policymaking uncertainty, consistent with our criteria (see “Sovereign Government Rating Methodology and Assumptions
,” June 30, 2011, especially Paragraphs 36-41). Nevertheless, we view the U.S. federal government’s other economic, external, and monetary credit attributes,which form the basis for the sovereign rating, as broadly unchanged.”

BTW, clown, 95 House Dems voted against the plan versus 66 House Repubs!

LMAO

Scott Walker, Jon Kaisich, Mark Sanford, et al.

You mean like that Gallup poll that said 20% of Republicans would never vote for a Mormon for President? Yeah, those far right folks are a disgrace. Oh wait, the same poll said that 27% of Democrats would never vote for a Mormon. Pot, meet kettle.

You are a complete and utter failure.

The Right is against Mormons?

Explain this: ”
David Axelrod Promises To Fire Any Team Obama Staffer Who Calls Mitt Romney ‘Weird’

really?
and the left is what…toler…tol…tolerant
sure
keep the jokes coming

At least in your last sentence you made some sense.  During the 2008 campaign I pointed out that it wasn’t going to be Bob the Windmill Builder that was making the windmills, but GE.

A friend sent me a link to the Megan Mcardle post about CAFE standards being applied to big rigs.  Hmm.  I do remember T. Boone Pickens talking about how we need to switch over our fleets to natural gas.  Coincidence?

maybe you should have another shot of ”no brains.”

Oh yea, the unemployed are having so much fun.

The real joke is when you get your social security and medicare cut away so your precious rich can trickle it all down on you…then you will cry about that won’t you?Thats the reaL JOKE

Thank you, Joe Scarborough, master of the obvious.

LOL

And just when did SS and Medicare get cut? And just HOW is SS and Medicare going to exist under current legislation? Answer: They won’t!

Now that is a joke!

Joe Blowhard, LSDnbc’s Elementary school playground bully who is all bark and NO bite along with his sidekick, Mika Airhead are the real jokes. God, those two dingbats turn everyone off as their extremely low daily ratings reveal. Nobody watches those two wackos. Why LSDnbc/Comcast keep those two on the air is really baffeling. Maybe the IRS gives them some kind of weird but large tax break.They can never get to 500,000 viewers while all the FOX News shows come in with 1.5–3 million viewers every single day.

Joe thinks he is some political guru who knows it all and everyone else is an idiot. Sorry Joe, but you are the IDIOT. When you shout everyone down just shows how insecure you are. You still live in the 90′s while the rest of the world is looking towards 2012. It is well known how unpopulare Joe is among those in New York and Washington DC.

The reason it seems to you there is no end in sight is because you can not understand what a ten year old running a  lemonaide stand does, that cutting expenses is only part of the solution with making more money being the most important point. Taxes are at a 60 year low. That’s the problem.

He also praises plenty. You just can’t stand it when any conservative calls bullshit on another. 

Thats it,,,call people names…makes your point. (how about getting a job or something)

Everybody knows that Bachman is going nowhere, however, everyone is afraid to blow her off for fear of losing tea party support. 

The joke is…they will be cut if you get what you want…then what will you do?

I am Roman Catholic. If Romney gets the nomination I WILL GLADLY VOTE FOR HIM!

She claims THE PEOPLE are behind her… They are not!

Who elected you to speak for THE PEOPLE?

For Joe to sit next to Mika every day and call ANYONE else a joke is ironic…

At heart, all of us Catholics are Cafeteria Catholics.

Check out the procedure to dispose of the Government bulbs burned out or broken. They are considered HAZARDOUS MATERIAL. Think ahead a few years when our soil is polluted with Mercury!

So when they have to raise the price of the lemonade to be able to profit after paying higher taxes, no one buys their lemonade and they have to shut down their stand. Then the become just another unemployed ten year old. Makes sense to me.

Actually, Mika’s not the brightest bulb, but at least she’s not lame enough to think she should be president. That’s the difference between Mika and Michelle: one at least is smart enough to know her limits. 

Oh.  So people in the Beltway are watching Fox and Friends instead?

You live in a bubble larger than they do if you believe that fantasy.

An Every Woman?!? Where exactly?

An Every Woman?!? Where exactly?

This is the fault of the media for not pointing out how wrong she is about, well, just about everything.

She doubled down on her debt ceiling talk the same day that senior people at S&P were saying, “Well yeah.  If these people don’t understand basic math, this country is screwed.”

As a liberal, this is what I love about Morning Joe.  I don’t agree with 99.9% of what Joe Scarborough says, and I usually end up yelling at my tv, but at least you know he is being genuine when he says it.

Why does his honesty bother you?  Scarborough defends conservatives 90% of the time; is the other 10% really enough to discredit him in your partisan mind?

I’ve been paying into both for 30+ years and I don’t expect to get jack schitt out of them. The only thing I’m crying about is that I’m still paying for benefits I have no expectation of receiving.

Same thing I do now: take care of myself.

Indeed. What is the message that the Fed won’t be raising interest rates before 2013? Things aren’t going to get any better before 2013. The Fed got that one right.

Thank you Teaparty.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Kuo8lb6Bg

Reagan cut the top income tax rate to 28% during his Presidency. It’s currently at 35%. How is that a 60 year low? If you’re referring to loopholes that allow people at all income levels to avoid paying taxes, politicians on both sides of the aisle have expressed a willingness to eliminate them. And if you want more tax revenue, the two best ways to do that are 1) increase the number of taxpayers in the economy which means more jobs need to be created and 2) make those 51% of income earners out there who pay zero in federal income tax start contributing their “fair share”.

The real problem is we’re at an all-time high in spending. Until we deal with that all the tax revenue in the world won’t make a dent in our deficit.

Still waiting to hear why Joe Scarborough suddenly quit Congress!

true

Not even close Adam.  

1)  Every serious economist will tell you that we have a medium-term problem and a long-term crisis based on entitlement programs.

2)  The debt ceiling is money that has already been spent.  Don’t believe me?  Read Tom Coburn’s “Back to Black” plan (I couldn’t get past page 10, because I know that it is this difficult, but good on him and his staff for trying).  Many times when laws are passed they have automatic built in spending that doesn’t go away until you strip that legislative language.

3)  What does “live within its means” even mean?  Name one country in history that said, “We have to live within our means.”  The balanced budget amendment (a rather silly idea anyway) proposed would just recreate the stupidity of California’s folly for saying you need a 2/3 majority to raise taxes.

4)  So most people in America don’t understand the debt ceiling and apparently neither does Bachmann.

but thanks anyway to the Tea Parythttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Kuo8lb6Bg

And where is GE making these lightbulbs? China. They used to make incandescent bulbs here. So, how many Americans did our lightbulb law put out of a job?

The other irony is that this Administration wants to put coal plants out of business partly because of those nasty mercury emissions, while simultaneously mandating that America homes litter themselves with potential mercury spills. That’s just awesome if you’ve got little kids, isn’t it?

Note to readers;  When the media runs thousands of stories ridiculing and attacking a politician, but never tell you her actual positions on actual issues, you can rest assured that you are being manipulated. 

Think toward next week when your kitchen or bathroom is polluted with mercury, by government mandate.

Another sockpuppet, Skippy/Bovine? You can’t take a hint, can you?

They don’t call it Funemployment for nothing.

The loony side of Paul re-surfaced last night. Although, I tend to agree
with him on more issues than any of the other aspirants, you could see
the lunacy kick in when he began to discuss Iran.

Why don’t you flesh that out?

Come on. She just enunciated some of her positions and she has been on tv hundreds of times and been given the same opportunity. She has a web site that also covers her positions for anyone who is interested. No one is being manipulated. 

Sadly, POTUS is no longer the leader of the free world. Sarkozy seems to be keeping that seat warm at the moment.

Felix… You are awesome! Period! ☺

I think Josh is referring more to evangelicals than Catholics.  Catholics tend to be fairly mainstream these days, and much less rigid in their ideology.

Um, right.  You basically proved the opposite of your point.  The Obama team has made his religion off-limits.

and unlike Michelle – America has years and years of videotape to show us how frickin stupid Mika is. Mika got her job because of her daddy. You can’t say the same about Michelle.

Scarborough is a pompous douche. Bachmann’s a joke? He sits next to the biggest airhead on morning news and is constantly deferring to that idiot and he thinks Bachmann is a joke? His credibility is a joke. I don’t think Bachmann is Presidential material, but she isn’t a joke. She is smarter than all of Morning Joe combined, even including that dunce Willie 3 times. Why is he there? He’s Mika with a y chromosome.

The joke is really Joe.
Thanks for the “likes” peopole

You tell me?  I suppose it could be a good joke, “How many people does it take to make a light bulb?”

I don’t think the only problems with coal plants are their mercury emissions alone and states that don’t burn coal for power are pissed when their neighbors do it.  It would seem that some national body could actually address that problem.  Oh wait.  They haven’t dealt with that since the George H.W. Bush administration.

I suppose I could go do a search for the number of people that live within 100 miles of a nuclear power plant, but they are going offline pretty soon.  After Three Mile Island and “The China Syndrome” we haven’t had one go online in almost 30 years.

Potential mercury spills?  I think that meme has been played out.  It was silly to begin with, but I digress.

the 20% represent the far right.

exactly

Exactly. Well said

Your hyperbolic statements amuse me.

Bachmann is misunderstood? WTF are you talking about? She’s presented herself as a candidate who repeatedly misstates facts and mangles history, is at the extreme edge of tea party thinking and even surpasses George W. Bush in his willingness to let religion trample reason. 

I understand why you want to turn this into a thread about Mika — who isn’t running for president — rather than try to defend the stupidity of Bachmann — who is — but that gets you nowhere. Bachmann is still unfit to be the nominee, let alone president, and attacking Mika doesn’t change that clearly obvious fact. 

Ok Adam.  You seem like a nice guy.  This is a quick breakdown.

1)  Overall taxes are a 60 year low (you are only counting income tax, but that’s a separate issue).

2)  Loopholes are written into the tax code for a purpose, but unlike say the Bush tax cuts they don’t have an expiration date.  They become a public policy paralysis quickly.  Let’s say you want to cut a loophole for badger farmers.  Well that loophole has been in place for decades because at some point we needed to support badger farmers.  Either badger farmers are doing really well now or there are not enough badger farmers and they are only getting by with those loopholes.  We have to make a policy decision about badger farmers.  Now multiply that by at least 1,000.

3)  I don’t understand why you break that down into two points.  The first presupposes the second and neither make sense.   Your first point says, “We need more taxpayers so they can pay taxes.”, and that would mean employed people.  You will have to explain that to me.  The second goes back to the loophole argument you were trying to make.  

4)  The reason that almost half (I’ve seen that 51% number many times, but it doesn’t add up) of the people don’t pay federal taxes is easy.  Having children, owning a home, paying state taxes, etc. add up pretty quickly.

Ok Adam.  You seem like a nice guy.  This is a quick breakdown.

1)  Overall taxes are a 60 year low (you are only counting income tax, but that’s a separate issue).

2)  Loopholes are written into the tax code for a purpose, but unlike say the Bush tax cuts they don’t have an expiration date.  They become a public policy paralysis quickly.  Let’s say you want to cut a loophole for badger farmers.  Well that loophole has been in place for decades because at some point we needed to support badger farmers.  Either badger farmers are doing really well now or there are not enough badger farmers and they are only getting by with those loopholes.  We have to make a policy decision about badger farmers.  Now multiply that by at least 1,000.

3)  I don’t understand why you break that down into two points.  The first presupposes the second and neither make sense.   Your first point says, “We need more taxpayers so they can pay taxes.”, and that would mean employed people.  You will have to explain that to me.  The second goes back to the loophole argument you were trying to make.  

4)  The reason that almost half (I’ve seen that 51% number many times, but it doesn’t add up) of the people don’t pay federal taxes is easy.  Having children, owning a home, paying state taxes, etc. add up pretty quickly.

There is little conservative in Joe Scarborough. Ask the typical conservative if we mock Joe and we’ll all say yes. He’s like Meghan McCain – a joke.

I have used the lemonade stand analogy for the European Union, but no one ever gets it. 

I am sure you probably have the lemonade stand economics in front of you right now, right?

You assume, and we all know what that means.

As I noted earlier, you can attack Scarborough and Mika and the entire crew of “Morning Joe” all you like, but they’re not running for president. Bachmann is, and she’s the one who’s clearly not a serious, qualified candidate for the highest office in the land. Deal with it.

I guess you must have cotton in your ears. We’re all quite well aware of where she stands on the big issues of the day. That’s why she’s unelectable. Period.

Well, Bachmann is no community organizer, that’s for sure.

Should be called the Airhead and morning Joke show!!

For conservatives the Light bulb legislation is very representative of the fight between big government vs individual rights and freedom of choice.  Her legislation hits a main nerve with conservatives, from where does the government derive the authority to tell us what kind of light bulb to purchase, especially when many of us don’t want mercury filled light bulbs in our homes! I for one know that I will never dispose of them properly just as 100’s of millions of Americans do not dispose of used batteries properly.  The light bulb legislation represents everything that is wrong with Washington, the assumption that individual lives in America must be managed by our government for the greater good!  It was a flawed piece of legislation that will create more environmental problems than it cures, have you read the recommended procedures should you be unfortunate enough to break one of these in your home?  Hours of work across multiple days, loss of use of A/C and ventilation in the home…  No my friend, the legislation that requires us to buy the new bulb is horrible piece of Progressive legislation that in the end sent thousands of jobs overseas as Immelt closed his plants here in favor of expanding in China.  Again it is the result of the Progressive mind at work!

Bottom line is Bachmann would be a helluvalot better than who’s occupying the white house, now.

HAHAHA

Mediaite has run countless articles on Bachmann.  Yet not one of them focuses on her views on the controlling the size and scope of government.  Yet this is the very reason she has a following.  Let me repeat that for emphasis: Bachmann’s views on the size and scope of government are the only reason she is a candidate in the first place.  For the media to run thousands of smear pieces and never tell people about Bachmann’s views is intellectually dishonest. 

But, of course, Val, you and I both know why the media won’t tell people Bachmann’s stands on the issues.   That’s easy to explain:  most Americans agree with Bachmann’s positions, and so the liberal media can’t take the chance of telling them where she stands on the biggest issues of the day.

And your suggestion that people can go to her web site is about as bizarre as it comes.  Every candidate has a web site — so this means that the media doesn’t need to cover the actual policy debate that determines elections?   Where do you come up with these things?

It would be nice to see the resident “conservative” offer up such frank assessments of President Downgrade.

Guess he got his talking points from the Obama camp………He is a bigger joke than even a circus clown!

So just what is the Progressive energy plan that will provide America with her energy needs for the next 30 years…  Please do tell.

She thinks the government should have defaulted. Good luck campaigning on that proposition.

Disprove anything he said. 

No, she’s more of a community destroyer.

I’m not a Bachmann supporter.  So I have no interest in helping her campaign.  But biased reporting is wrong, no matter who is getting smeared.  So I have the honesty to say what the media are doing.  Why don’t you do the same? 

Yeah, nobody does that but Scarborough. And Beck and Levin and Limbaugh and Ingraham and Hannity and Malkin and…

Scarbough isn’t smart enough to see the joke staring back at him each morning so take it from where it comes.

Also, Barack Obama is the sitting president……I rest my case. Not that I want to see, nor do I believe Bachman has a chance of winning the Republican primary…..I’m jus sayin anything ( muslim, moron, anti-American, racist,,, in otherwords Obama ) can & did happen.

Sadly, it seems those media believe it is their obligation to manipulate the citizenry rather than engaging in the much harder occupation of journalism. Just imagine the chaos of a world where everyone was honestly and objectively informed. Politicians couldn’t survive in that hell.

You’re not listening to what I’m saying. I’ve asserted that Bachmann’s positions are quite well known — on taxes, on the debt ceiling, on health care reform, on the role of religion in government — and that her positions will not resonate with most Americans. I don’t see how you can infer that knowledge of her positions is an example of “biased reporting.”

Wheter you like it or not big mouth Joe is right on.  She will not be elected in the general election and neither will Perry.  They are way to extreme. 

Ron Paul may be very right about Iran and American policy, but this was perhaps not the time and place to get fired up about it.

I do appreciate his honesty on the subject. It may cost him votes though.

and at the end of the show we get to see mika pole dancing lol

ANDY KAUFMAN IS BACK

YOU ARE HILLLLAAARIOUS!!!!!!

Sarah Palin’s “tour of duty” is to make as much money as possible from her supporters until they finally realize she is never running for President.

Sarah Palin’s “tour of duty” is to make as much money as possible from her supporters until they finally realize she is never running for President.

Sarah Palin’s “tour of duty” is to make as much money as possible from her supporters until they finally realize she is never running for President.

So, let me get this straight, Pablo. you, like me, have been paying into SS all these years and you don’t expect anything form it so corporations can get tax breaks? This is the kind the type intellect we are dealing with.  Huh?  

so you think bachmann is a serious candidate?

you, too?  bachmann is a serious candidate?

S&P said no such thing.

Without specifically mentioning Republicans, S&P senior director
Joydeep Mukherji said the stability and effectiveness of American
political institutions were undermined by the fact that “people in the
political arena were even talking about a potential default,” Mukherji
said. “That a country even has such voices, albeit a minority, is something
notable,” he added. “This kind of rhetoric is not common amongst AAA
sovereigns.”

Bachmann was saying we wouldn’t default, which is true. The Obama administration was screaming like Chicken Little that we’d default if we default in a matter of days if he didn’t get what he wanted, which is a lie. Which of those positions do you suppose made more of an impression on S&P?

Potential mercury spills?  I think that meme has been played out.  It was silly to begin with, but I digress.

Huh? http://tinyurl.com/3y5jv5j

In fact, why don’t you donate the social security you feel you don’t deserve to you favorite rich CEO>

Debate analysis:

Bachmann shows once again that she doesn’t know what the f*ck she’s talking about, but she does know how to recite simple-minded talking points over and over again.

Cain demonstrat­ed that he desperatel­y needs psychotherapy to deal with his intoleranc­e of religions that begin with the letter “M”.

Newt managed to repeated hide behind Sarah Palin’s skirts, ever fearful of “gotcha” questions such as ”Can you be a successful leader?”

Mitt attempted to explain why corporatio­ns are people, whereas people are Soylent Green. He also did his best to undermine the prior accomplish­ments of Governor Mitt Romney.

Both Santorum and Bachmann reiterated their disdain for gays, confirming their belief that the government should not intrude in the lives of (God-fearing heterosexual) Americans.

Perry stayed away, because God told him to.

And Palin was at the State Fair chowing down on deep-fried sticks of butter, because if nutritionists are for it, she’s against it.

why don’t you donate the social security you feel you don’t deserve to you favorite rich CEO>

“And Palin was at the State Fair chowing down on deep-fried sticks of butter, because if nutritionists are for it, she’s against it.”
yes, real, authentic Americans eat those things.

Scarborough went to Law School as did Barack Obama, who graduated from Harvard Law School. But you’re right, they’re both morons. 

Did Scarborough get his talking points when he defended Bachmann against Newsweek magazine? B1tch, please

^ + 1 Labman57

Right on every single point. 

she is too stupid to be a serious candidate. I thought the picture of her on Newsweek shows the real BAchman. Crazy and stupid. Not sure who voted her into office, maybe they only have crazy stupid people.

Sad thing is is that neither is President Obama..

I really can’t believe that you bought this idea about the horrors of the light bulb.

Ever read the mercury warnings on most fresh caught fish?  Remember the concerns about saccharine?  I could go on and on.

You sound more alarmist than most environmentalists do talking about the light bulbs.

I saw the documentary about fracking a few months ago and asked my brother about it.  He works for a major energy company and said, “Anything is possible.  Heck, we wouldn’t have the BP spill if it wasn’t a crap company (side note:  when he was applying the other companies said ‘Go to X or Y, but do not work for BP, period.’) and we drill deeper than that now anyway.”  We need the energy and we make decisions about these things.  Fracking in the middle of nowhere and relocating a few thousand people is a small price to pay.  

I do not doubt that it was a flawed piece of legislation and should have been called out as such when it was being passed way back in 2007.

Don’t get me started on Immelt and the whole “green jobs” meme.  My little brother left a solar company shortly before graduating (Iraq put a hiatus on his finishing and getting to where he belongs) and some of his co-workers were so happy that they’d “broken” the barrier of being able to pay off a solar panel in 17 years.  They have a shelf life of 20 years.

It’s been done. They’ve revived George Burns and Gracy Allen.

It’s been done. They’ve revived George Burns and Gracy Allen.

FINALLY!  Now maybe someone can address the other elephant in the room – the narcissistic, lying, quitter, otherwise known as Sarah Palin. It is revolting the way both of these women — dumber than bricks — okay maybe Bachmann is a tad smarter — being treated as actual contenders for the highest office in this land. It’s pathetic.

Hmmm, gee, I wonder where the jobs went — OH< OVERSEAS because of the tax breaks given to companies! Wake and smell the java Pablo.

Corporate tax break aren’t the problem. The fact the the government spent the money is the problem. On the bright side, my retirement will be funded…thanks to corporations.

You’re naive, Adam, if you do not believe that there is not ONE right answer. We must decrease spending, I get it. But to do THAT without revenue increases just doesn’t make sense. Any freshman in college with only the basic economics course understands that to decrease a deficit you need to cut spending AND INCREASE REVENUE! Stop mimicking the Tea Party talking points – heck, start with the S&P report.

In fact, why don’t you donate the social security you feel you don’t deserve to you favorite rich CEO>

1. Because I don’t have it. The government took it and blew it.

2. That would be stupid.

It’s not that I don’t think I deserve it. I don’t think I’m going to get it.

Did you graduate high school?

Yeah, some voters don’t have a clue. Look who they elected in 2008.

To those of you who are shaking your heads at what Scarborough said:  Doesn’t that rattling sound bother you?

They were only his opinions. He made no factual statements.

Obimbo has released his salivating attack-dogs. I think the general opinion is, “Scarborough is a Joke”, and I think we mean that BRUTALLY!!

Oh.  A few years from now?  With the light bulbs that have 1/100th the amount of an old mercury thermometer?

Do you fish?  That’s just a starter.  Do you believe in global warming?  

I’m serious.  You don’t get to just choose and pick which science you want to believe.

She is just as qualified as Obama. Probably more so.

the only “lying” is you.  If that’s all you’ve got, your cupboard is bare there sweets.  

Same as they did with Obama.

Obviously not – cause otherwise she wouldn’t be on t.v.  

Liie I said, we are not talking to any kind of intellect here..yeah you don’t have it because you are willing to donate it…you aren’t too bright..quess its not your fault…sorry about that , ill try to talk to someone who thinks,

I thought it was pretty much understood.  If you like to read in a postmodernist manner, that can be fun too.

So go to town Pablo.  I know postmodernist theorists that love to dissect children’s books, so this should be interesting.

I truly am sick and tired of the left throwing slime at republican females.  It appears, since they have nothing to compare these women to, that they have to malign.  

For heaven’s sake people – grow the hell up.  You think your constant attempt at painting Palin and Bachmann as stupid is a political point?  No!  It’s nothing but a bunch of idiots who have nothing to rebut, so lets get personal and smear them.  

Absolutely stupid.  

I see he got his walking papers again.  lol

Didn’t Joe endorse Romney in 08?  If memory serves me correctly he did, or at least sang the praises of Mitt above all others the last go round.  Of course Joe will attack Michelle.

It’s always nice to see PHONY JOE poke his head ouT of the toilet known as M(ore)S(ocialism)from N(itwit)B(iased-socialist)C(lowns), aka America’s al jazeera, to make another idiotic comment.

Maybe they understand that Europe is burning (not making a reference to London, because they aren’t in the Euro Zone anyway) and they account for around a little more than a quarter of our trade.

The days of everyone else thinking, “Well the Americans have a 2/3 consumer economy, so we’ll count on them.”, are over.

Even “peripheral” (I hate economists, because only a decade ago they were called “emerging” markets) nations are starting to feel the pinch.

I am not advocating autarky, but we should have had this reshuffle a few years ago and people that could see how to adapt.

There are a few sane conservatives left, but sadly just a few.

“Take your straw poll, take your caucus, but Iowa, if you let her win, you prove your irrelevance once again”

This is the state where Pat Robertson once came in second place after all.

If Bachmann is a joke than Palin is beyond a joke.

I already noted that T-Paw should have said the following:

“We already elected a person with a tissue-thin resume and legislative record.  How did that work out?”

T-Paw is the wrong part of “Fargo”.  I don’t know if he can dig deep and put a leg in the wood shredder.

I already noted that T-Paw should have said the following:

“We already elected a person with a tissue-thin resume and legislative record.  How did that work out?”

T-Paw is the wrong part of “Fargo”.  I don’t know if he can dig deep and put a leg in the wood shredder.

So the people with a clue voted for the losing side?

Sarah Palin was really the best choice for vice president? yikes…

So the people with a clue voted for the losing side?

Sarah Palin was really the best choice for vice president? yikes…

TEANDERTHALS OF AMERICA UNITE!

I can see why the base of the GOP likes Bachmann but she’s not a general election candidate. And being mad at people who say that wont change it. Here appeal is very narrow. 

There are too much wacky Bachman clips online. 

I like Jon Stewart and I like Bill Maher.  When they criticize President Obama, (and they do quite often) if they make a good point, I can agree with them for it and still like them.  Teabaggers and Cons on the other hand require 100% loyalty and will defend to the death whatever bat$hit crazy thing someone on the right says or does. Sometimes it’s mind-boggling but it’s in practice here every single day.

You seem to be extremely “concerned” about the right – why?
Colby writes an article with a phoney headline stating “brutally honest” – no Colby, it was brutal but labelling it as “honest” is false.  

It’s one person’s point of view – it’s neither honest nor dishonest. 

I will be brutally honest and state that someone should dress Mika because the crummy, grandma, doily outfits she’s been sporting are crummy, ancient and ugly.  Don’t know what the hell she’s thinking.
p.s.  Since Mika is dense as dirt – the only thing I can comment on is her lack of style.  

Is Mark Halperin even paying attention?

Joe S. rants for 3 minutes about Bachmann then tosses it to MH for his comment.

For some odd reason MH says nothing about the topic at hand (MB) … but instead strangely pivots to a discussion about Governor Perry (presumably Halperin’s pick).

It makes no sense and makes MH look out of touch with Scarborough.

BTW, I am no fan of Joe S., but I had the same reaction to Michele’s ludicrous suggestion that America should have refused to raise the debt limit and defaulted. The audience approval (applause) was equally baffling.

Ms. Bachmann seems like a genuinely nice person (unlike the editors at Newsweek) but I think her relevancy as a candidate just took a big hit outside her evangelical base. It’s too bad, because compared to some others I think she is sincere about her beliefs .. as wacky as some seem to be.

Even Fundamentalist Joe can occasionally blurb out a bit of raw accuracy.

I’m wondering:   Do any of you know that Evangelicals, Catholics, Lutherans, Methodists, 7-day Advantists and many more are all Christian’s?  You point them out like their all seperate from each others beliefs.  No so….

Bachmann wants America to default but Mika is dense as dirt and you don’t like her wardrobe.  Got it!

Well, get used to it.  Everyone in the country below the age of 65 are all doing the same thing.  No it’s not far….but far ness isn’t a part of this country anymore.

Well, get used to it.  Everyone in the country below the age of 65 are all doing the same thing.  No it’s not far….but far ness isn’t a part of this country anymore.

I repeat, I am no Bachmann supporter.  But that doesn’t stop me from saying that the media has not covered her positions on the issues.  On the contrary, they have run thousands of attack articles that avoid telling readers her position on the issues.   Go check out the hundred or so articles on Bachmann that Mediaite has run in the last few months, and see how many are focused on issues.

“Bachmann wants America to default”…

Where do you get that nugget of misinformation from? She wanted to stop the out of control spending a long time ago, but that didn’t stop dems from pressing the throttle wide open toward our economic doom. The fact that they had to raise the debt ceiling is due to the debt your vaunted liberals have put us in. Liberals tied a rope around the ankle of America, and then threw that line and attached anchor overboard.

Liberals want the default. They have been working to bring it about for a long time.

To go? Why don’t you?

Your knowledge of the Tea Party comes from the left wing spinmeister propaganda you were programmed to believe.

were you as flabbergasted when Obama wanted America to default?  

I gave up watching him a while back.  The show is completely irrelevant.  The day that Mika was crowing about receiving an e-mail from the White House I decided that I really wasn’t interested in a freaking program that was being managed from the White House.  

Joe is an idiot and Mika is his perfect foil.  

I gave up watching him a while back.  The show is completely irrelevant.  The day that Mika was crowing about receiving an e-mail from the White House I decided that I really wasn’t interested in a freaking program that was being managed from the White House.  

Joe is an idiot and Mika is his perfect foil.  

Yah Palin looks like she’s been eating butter.  
She’s a runner foo!  As opposed to Michele who talks the talk.

You really lose all sense of honesty  when you make stupid comments, which is blatantly false.
I think Obama needs you – you wunderkind you!  

….as did Obama at one time.  Now it’s just a distant memory that the media has glossed right over. 

what is her position on the role of religion in government?  Haven’t heard that one - 

taxes – good position
health care – good position
debt ceiling – had to be raised to safeguard our credit rating. lol  

what is her position on the role of religion in government?  Haven’t heard that one - 

taxes – good position
health care – good position
debt ceiling – had to be raised to safeguard our credit rating. lol  

you mean her eyes!  Or the fact that mediaite had a picture of her next to Manson?  Classy move there Tommy.  

Attack is all they’ve got.  They can’t argue Obama’s dismal record so….

you mean her eyes!  Or the fact that mediaite had a picture of her next to Manson?  Classy move there Tommy.  

Attack is all they’ve got.  They can’t argue Obama’s dismal record so….

Heard today that they’ve now been instructed to go after Romney and call him weird.  
So, that’s the next bit of nonsense coming down the pike.

I get the sense the Republicans want Michelle out of the race.  They don’t like their women to become leaders.   

You need another brain cell to go with the one you’ve already got. 

Her issues will flip flop per bill.. how can you tell her actual position?

Her rant with pewlenty just shows washington as usual, ear marks. She chose one part over the other. That is what has killed washington, to many interest in the same bill. what she showed as response is she will play washington as usual and accomplish nothing. It’s all just a game and they play it all the time. Refreshing to see some come to light that will not play as usual. She is not one of them. I have to agree she is a joke and wonder why she gets such backing? Unless it’s to keep washington as usual?

I am still wondering what happened to that transparency in washington which has gone behind even more closed doors? Never seen a guy run on so many issues and decide differently once in office.. yes, I just ear marked my own message.

And you need a brain cell to get started.

Absolutely. I’ve been following her for awhile and I think she is brilliant, tough, decisive and right on the issues. This is probably what scares those who disagree with her. I am beginning to see a pattern. The candidates running on the Republican ticket are being personally mocked and getting their reputations slashed by those who support the President if they are seen as a threat to Pres. Obama’s reelection possibilities. They are obviously seen as a threat. Those who like the Pres. will love this tactic. Those who don’t pay attention to what is going on and vote by the way they feel; they will probably believe the things that are being said about them. The problem is, by doing this, good men and women shy away from running because they don’t want to deal with it. They should focus on what they agree or disagree with as far as their stand is on the issues. It’s more honest and better for the nation. If Shawn Hannity or Rush ever attacked Obama like this, they would have been tarred and feathered. That’s the difference between them; personal destruction v’s ideas. What do we want as a nation? 

You should probably look back on her multiple interviews over the last few years. If your honest with yourself, you will see that she is an amazing woman and quite brilliant. I admire her determination and ability to not be intimidated. Many of the same qualities as Hillary Clinton. You may disagree with her views however; she is strongly independent and feels the majority of Americans are. She believes in our ability to do great things without the nanny state holding our hands. The federal government has it’s place and they are crucial to the protection of our nation and in many other ways. Unfortunately; more and more, it looks like a private club of elitists that seem to pass laws to protect us from our own inability to run our lives. You may disagree with that. A lot of people do, so you are not alone. You should not be part of the crowd that slanders a person unjustly and make useless comments because it does not educate or inform people before they go to vote. There will be a lot of people who agree with you and if all they have is, “she is to stupid”, they might just stay home. After all, the man in charge now has made a lot of mistakes. Not because he is stupid, but because he truly believes in the European Socialist policies and he probably thinks they are the best for THIS country. Either that, or he is deliberately sabotaging our economy and is a pawn for people like George Soros; a man who has made his wealth by destroying the monetary systems of other nations.  The U.S. would be his ultimate success story. But only the President and Soros know for sure. 

Calling someone as brilliant as Bachman stupid is not a useful criticism. I have seen people in office that the comment would describe, (unfortunately), Bachman isn’t even close.  Besides, if mocking is what he had in mind, he needs to learn how to be funny. 

That’s funny. Every time I see an Obama sticker on a car, I want to ask them if they are embarrassed yet for supporting him the first time.

I’m of the thinking that she fails to run her commentary through the committee before she runs off at the mouth. 

I believe she is serious about running for the Presidency, but quite often people start to run when they may not have a chance of winning the primary for name recognition; then run again.  I think she would be an excellent speaker. Your right though when it comes to wanting someone who has been a successful Gov. I believe that is the best place to train for the job. I also think they should have experience making money in the private sector for a period of time so they understand how the economy works. I think it is unfair when people try to attack Bachman at the level Joe did though. I don’t even follow his show, but it takes away his credibility & I’m always worried that it will keep the best of the best from running. They don’t want to or even have to deal with that kind of crap. If it doesn’t bother them, it will bother their spouses and children and decent men & women will worry about those they love. Then we all loose out.

Now that was a good one and it was funny!

That tactic isn’t necessarily unique, though.  People did the same thing to Obama and Hillary in 2008…they did the same thing to Perot..they did the same thing to Bush.  Again, this isn’t a fresh characteristic found only within one party.

Sandie, sweetheart, your average bonobo has more brain cells in his ass than you and your embarrassing brother-in-law have in your little walnut-sized, tea party brains combined.  Am I being too harsh?

Medicare was cut when the Obama health care plan was signed. Drs. are getting less and are turning new patients away because they can’t afford to see them. Money was cut for seniors but the federal government will now supply free healthcare insurance for people making up to $90k per year. This will take money away from helping the poor and seniors. It’s good to have a safety net for those who need it, not everyone has the ability to make huge or even middle class salaries. Business owners and entrepreneurs quite often make less that $30k or even $20k but they have a dream for a better day. Spending our money wisely is a huge responsibility and for a very long time, neither party has been responsible. Now, there are people from the Republican, Democrat party and independents are demanding they change. Those are the people who attend Tea Party Rally’s. We have been fortunate enough to elect some very good men and women and they are fighting for what we sent them for. They are still the minority though and there is only so much they can do. The people who put them there will keep reminding them of their mission though and they will continue to fight the battle or loose their jobs. Most of them don’t care if they are re-elected and are willing to fight the status flow. As time goes on, more of the old timers who keep doing the same old thing will be sent home and they will be replaced. The conservatives may loose to more liberal candidates the first time but that leaves room for new blood in that spot in the following election. We don’t want the nation to be socialized like Greece. When you run out of other peoples money, you get riots from those who think they nation still owes them when the gravy train is cut off. It’s just human nature. I would not get DSL until I knew I could pay the bill every month. The difference between that and dial up is horrific. It’s only human nature regardless of your political view points.   

I would suggest Joe, you take a good look to your right before calling any other male or female a joke!
Fact you are sort of laughable yourself.
You stupid hick!!!

Bachmann clearly stated that the US would not default.  Just because she didn’t want the debt limit raised.  You figure that if it hadn’t been we would have defaulted?  There are a # of people who don’t agree with you.  

Again, when Obama claimed it was a crappy gov. and voted against the debt ceiling he wanted the Country to default?  …..and you were fine with that! lol

Ahh shucks Ollie – Obama’s history is sort of (what’s the word I’m looking for) checkered, to say the least.  Either present or taking a position you now find disgusting. 

Youa re being as I expected, an ignorant ahole who needs a brain

geez … couldn’t you have cut the clip before Mika started talking?  talk about the empty set.  she has absolutely nothing to add, ever, yet she persists. it’s truly embarrassing to watch.

Then you are a buffoon too. She is a wacky Christian Reconstructionist prone to bizarre conspiracy theory.

Joe has gone quite mad. That woman has driven him insane.

Iowa gave the victory to Barack Obama, which nearly ended the Clinton campaign.  How can you call that irrelevant?

Bachmann doesn’t make sense to people who only know “submission” to be a type of pornography.  Most people who have any education in Christianity and marriage recognize the subject as familiar ground.  Someone can say it is a “dog whistle” to people who go to church, but those who would say it did not hear the whistle.

right. and we may have lost our Triple A credit rating, but we’re still a, wait, hang on a sec..Totus is down… again. ok. soo, we may have lost that, but we’re still a Triple A country..with Triple A d’bag President.    

MSM: GOP Iran War Mongering
So obviously all eyes were turned to the GOP Presidential debate that
took place in Iowa last night, but while it’s worth discussing, it’s
safe to say the mainstream media doesn’t just discuss they obsess. What
about taking a look at our foreign policy and how we’ve been fighting a
10 year war in Afghanistan, we’re still in Iraq; we have drones and
elite teams in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and who knows where else. And
here we have another Iran war hawk, Rick Santorum, who basically said
he’s ready to get us involved in another war to make sure that Iran does
not get a nuclear weapon.
http://youtu.be/PXzqxT8bkMs

Joe “Dead Intern” Scarborough is a true conservative. He knows the T.P. will sink the GOP and he wants to save his tax cuts.  Plus if Obama wins again, he will be out at MSNBC, which means no more handjobs from his dimwit co-host…. Willie Geist. 

But at least she’s working to free the light bulb.

obama is going to spend half a billion on attack ads – and millions of dollars worth of free attacks from the media.  and he’s still going to lose

Colby writes an article with a phoney headline stating “brutally honest”
– no Colby, it was brutal but labelling it as “honest” is false.

When someone is being “brutally honest” it means that are being completely honest from their point of view no matter what others may think.  I think you know this since you went on to do just that.

good thing you’re not a psychic or you’d starve to death.  You get the sense? lol

I have absolutely no idea what the hell you’re talking about. Can anyone translate this to sane for me?

Could be. Could be a million other things too. They don’t explain the why, but they’re pretty clear about the what.

Understood by whom? Based on what?

They said what they said. Why don’t you answer my question? Are you a frigging sheep? You seem smarter that that. Am I misreading you?

She is not brilliant but instead has an amazing level of confidence in her opinions, which also happen to be incredibly wrong.

 Why is this controversial? This woman you claim is “brilliant” said that she hoped this nation had defaulted! Does she appreciate the devastating consequences of that? Clearly not. Therefore she is not only a joke, but someone dangerous to the well being of the nation by virtue of being in congress. It doesn’t matter what your politics, default, or as we saw, even the threat of default is ruinous to our economy, at a time when our economy is weak enough without politicians intentionally ruining it to make a point. Joe Scarbourgh is too sensible to be a republican nowadays.I don’t always agree with him politically, but he’s no nitwit, and that seems to be mandatory for successful republicans these days.

No kitty – I was showing that my opinion of Mika is not “honest” anything – it’s my opinion.  

“[Public schools] are teaching children that there is separation of church and state, and I am here to tell you that is a myth.”

– Michele Bachmann, de facto leader of the Christianist movement in America

The mistake you’re making is to equate articles that highlight her positions on the issues with “attack” articles. Those articles may make her look more unelectable, seem more unhinged or underscore her weak grasp of facts and history, but, sorry, that don’t make ‘em attack articles.That just makes ‘em truthful.

Great ‘talking point’.  You listen well and repeat splendidly.  Garbage in.  Garbarg out.  What do you call  George Bush/Dick Cheney, ”Too Big to Fail”  greedy corporations that raped this country of its dignity around the world (let me remind you…before President Obama was sworn in to office).  Lest we not forget.  I KNOW  that I, and thousands of jobless, homeless, penniless American citizens have not forgotten as well.
Thank you.

Good for you Joe Scarborough -for being strong-willed enough to speak the truth.  I am not tied to either party.  And would gladly vote for someone other than President Obama…if…if…that person had a plan to restore America and improve our country.  All I’ve heard from Michelle Bachman is…Obama is bad. She has not said one thing that she would/could do to make living better.  And for her to say that she wished the country would default…well…I believe SHE put the last nail in her own coffin. 

Hate to agree with Joe but she is not qualified if she will not raise the debt ceiling under any circumstance.

It’s a simple fact. We forty-somethings are about to take a haircut, like the Chrysler bondholders did. Let’s just get it over with and stop pretending that what we’re currently doing is going to work.

Sure, if I disagree with him, I hate his honesty. That must be it. I can’t just think he dopey, I must object to his honesty.

Christ.

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You are completely out of you r fucking mind and should seek therapy immediately..

Oh come on Lou Sarah, scarborough is no conservative, now he use to be and I really liked him,but no more, watched him when he first went to msnbc loved that he got a show but then he started changing, yes he is a RINO, he sold his soul, even if he felt this way about Bachmann why go on and on and be so ugly about it, because he is on msnbc and we all know its totally liberal now, not even one conservative show, I do not support Bachmann but she is pretty good for only being in congress four years, and Colby we all know you loved writing this, anything against the GOP you love, but please get it right and do not try to tell everyone scarborough is a conservative, you libs love to think he is when he bashes Republicans almost daily but he sure isn’t, in fact he is disgusting now.

Doesn’t seem like Joe should host a morning show. I wouldn’t want to watch that in the morning. 

Social Security is paid through our payroll taxes. The tax breaks corporations get are not payroll taxes. Emplyee and employers pay into the system. Also, Congress has $2,.5 trillion in IOUs owed to Social Security. Do you really think Congress intends to pay us back? They just increase the debt ceiling with a law that hardly makes a dent in the debt and does not hold future Congresses to the promises made this year. A Balance Budget Amendment would hold future Congresses to keep spending under control. One thing that will not solve this country’s economic woes is this Marxist class warfare crap.

Could you please read the post again? The quotation marks in the first line indicate that I was quoting the original post I was replying to. If you read the rest of it you will find that I did not write anything like that which you take issue with in the rest of your post. I was replying to m_mayhem and I will repost it here for your convenience:

doodaddio 14 hours ago in reply to m_mayhem
“Bachmann wants America to default”…Where
do you get that nugget of misinformation from? She wanted to stop the
out of control spending a long time ago, but that didn’t stop dems from
pressing the throttle wide open toward our economic doom. The fact that
they had to raise the debt ceiling is due to the debt your vaunted
liberals have put us in. Liberals tied a rope around the ankle of
America, and then threw that line and attached anchor overboard. Liberals want the default. They have been working to bring it about for a long time.

*********************************************************************************************Either you responded to the wrong post or you got it all wrong.

I don’t believe it would be wise for you to challenge me in the intellect department.

Someone needs to ask Mee-kah how she feels about being trapped by Obamo’s ‘blackness.’ Happily, DIM LIBS are trapped into supporting Obamo no matter what. They can’t launch a primary contender without looking like the ‘Racists’ that they ‘declare’ everyone who opposes Obamo is.

I LOVE the misery DIM LIBS are in!!!

doodaddio I was attempting to respond to mayhem – don’t know why it has your name as reply.  I couldn’t respond to your comment this time either because the reply is missing.

Sorry about that.  I realized that you agreed.  

doodaddio I was attempting to respond to mayhem – don’t know why it has your name as reply.  I couldn’t respond to your comment this time either because the reply is missing.

Sorry about that.  I realized that you agreed.  

Fact: Joe has too rip at least one GOP candidate or he would lose his ride at MSDNC. He just
 see’s her as the easiest target. It’s his woman thing.

If a no-nothing, affirmative action, community organizer, can be a serious candidate, then anyone can be a serious candidate. 

GE doesn’t pay taxes, genius. But its CEO does have a seat in the Obama White House. Wake up, indeed.

What in your head makes you think companies leave because we give them tax breaks? They go overseas because its cheaper and easier to do business there.

“If Shawn Hannity or Rush ever attacked Obama like this, they would have been tarred and feathered.”

What do you mean “if”? They attack the President like this, or worse, every day.

Predictably, the Republicans are calling him a RINO for just telling the truth.

Bachmann has no chance in a general election.  She’ll pick up some votes just for having an “R” next to her name, but beyond that she’ll get clobbered.

Iowa is the GOP’s chance to daydream a little before having to face a more moderate state like NH.

You conveniently left out constitutional law scholar…

Madam President Bachman what a refreshing sound it is after the slime that we had to put up with for the last two and a half years. Joe Scarborough is a lying liberal, what do you expect.

I have listened to Michele Bachmann speak and I find the characterization
of her as “quite brilliant” hard to swallow.  It’s not about
errors…everyone makes them.  It’s just that, as with Sarah Palin, her
“mis-speaks” are so egregiously incorrect.  I heard her – with
my own ears – give a speech wherein she said, in reference to immigration, etc.
- “Once you got here, we were all the same,” she said. “Isn’t
that remarkable? It is absolutely remarkable.”  Yes, it IS remarkable
because it isn’t true.  Any immigrant can tell you as much.  As a 1st
generation Italian American and a second generation Irish American, I can tell
you it took many years for people from those countries to be “all the
same.”

She went on, in this same January speech, to address slavery saying, “But
we also know that the very founders that wrote those documents worked
tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States,” Bachmann
added, claiming “men like John Quincy Adams… would not rest until
slavery was extinguished in the country.” I realize most politicians don’t
write their own speeches, but one would hope they at least READ them before
they stand on the dais and recite what has been written for them.  These
particular passages went beyond a simple mistake…they are historically
inaccurate.  Slavery was a deeply embedded industry in the
post-Revolutionary times.  Many of the Founding Fathers were slave owners,
including George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.  This statement about
the Founding Fathers left me wondering if Bachmann had any knowledge of the
Civil War in which over 600,000 died fighting over state’s rights.  The
slavery issue was a key component in this conflict.  That’s fourth grade
social studies.  Bachmann should know this.

I’ve not seen anything to indicate that Bachmann has a realistic (as in based
in reality) grasp of the facts.  Her statements regarding the our
government’s inability to repay their debt is incorrect and reckless.  I
continue to listen to what she is saying because I want to make sure I hear it
with my own ears and not through the cynical, biased mouths of the media. 
However, I think she is dangerous.  Dangerous because she is full of
misinformation – that assertion can be proven – and desperate people are
listening to her.  Our country DOES need radical change, but she is NOT the
person to do it.  If she were reciting cold, hard facts every time she
opened her mouth, if she kept emotion out of it and stuck to what is REAL, if
she had even an ounce of credibility, I would take her seriously as a
candidate.  Instead, I take her seriously because of the people willing to
accept her ignorant view of the world and our country.  People are so
desperate for change they will follow anyone who seems to speak to their
anxiety.

I also take issue with the accusations that – suddenly – Obama is pushing us forward
into a more “socialistic” government.  Again, this is an example
of how politicians use ignorance and fear to rally people to their sides. 
Ever since Joe McCarthy’s “Red Hunt,” people in this country have
developed an irrational fear of socialism and communism and have demonstrated,
time and again, a severe lack of understanding of both economic systems. 
The US economy is far from a socialistic one.  We produce next to nothing;
our government doesn’t own any industry; and, the banks operate completely
independently from the US Government.  As a matter of fact, the Federal
Reserve is NOT a government agency and the Federal Government does not even own
it’s own currency.  Our currency is owned by the consortium of banks that
make up the Federal Reserve.  Further, I find it patently hypocritical for
any member of Congress who continues to vote on budgets which routinely
subsidize ANY corporation/industry, such as the oil industry, the farming
industry (which is no longer made up of primarily “family farms”),
the dairy industry and it’s price-fixing consortium, to then claim that the
country is headed towards socialism because of yet another attempt at a
universal health care plan (which, by the way, was first introduced as early as
the late-1800s).  Members of Congress speak to “entitlements”
meant to assist taxpaying Americans, while routinely subsidizing corporate
American and voting themselves pay raises and health care benefits many working
Americans do not receive.  The irony is that Congress receives
“entitlements.”  Members of Congress are NOT federal
employees.  They are, by the mere fact that they are voted in to a
“fixed” term in office, CONTRACT employees.  Do you pay the
painter you hire to paint your home benefits such as health insurance?  Of
course not.  That is up to them as the Contractor.  Do you pay your
painter a pension once they retire equal to near half his annual salary for the
rest of his life?  Of course not!  That is his responsibility to set
up a retirement plan for himself.  So should it be for Members of
Congress, especially when they spend so much of our money on corporate
subsidies for corporations who don’t NEED it.  It is vote buying, plain
and simple.  And yes, Bachmann is one of these.  Check the campaign finance
records if you don’t believe it.  Check her voting record.  Do your
homework…don’t take my word for it, even if I already have done all the hard
research.  The Founding Fathers, while not trying to abolish slavery as
Bachmann contends, DID – in fact – expect that Members of Congress would be
“citizen legislators” and not Members of Congress for the rest of
their lives.  Before you drink the Kool-Aid and join the
“anti-socialist” bus, make sure you have a full understanding of what
socialism is and is not, and how it is and is not being applied here in the
USA.  It will be a revelation for you, I am sure (and there is no sarcasm
intended in that last statement). 
Lastly, regarding “European Socialism,” that statement is the perfect
example of US Exceptionalism and Isolationist policies.  Failing to recognize that we are a part of a
global society, and that our people are no better or worse than the people of
any other country, could ultimately be our most devastating downfall.  We have a stubborn reluctance in this country
to accept any other methodology as valid. 
We point the finger at other nations’ human rights policies and
infractions while turning a blind eye to our own.  We seem to have no issue with taking on the
role of “policeman of the world,” yet refuse to or reluctantly participate in
other such activities, claiming they are worthless (our constant defamation of
the UN is an example).  That is not
Nationalism.  That is delusional
thinking.  We should be proud to be
Americans while at the same time openly addressing what needs to change and not
denying what the world sees as our faults. 
We should look to other nations who have been succeeding in any area
where we fail to succeed and find ways to adapt their policies to our own to
see if it will work here.  I don’t
understand a people who say we are the greatest nation on Earth and then who
repeatedly us the phrase “we can’t” when referring to doing what other, even
smaller, nations are doing.   That
mindset is offensive, ignorant, and downright narrow-minded.  That is not the United States of our Founding
Fathers.

“Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless
world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of
the people.”  Karl Marx wrote that in 1843 (no, I am neither a
Marxist nor a Communist, just a student of history).  When read in context
and with the full understanding of the content, one comes to understand that he
is not speaking to spirituality, but to any belief system fostered by those in
power and indoctrinated into those who feel disenfranchised.  For a long
time now, our members of Congress – in BOTH parties – have been feeding us the
type of information Bachmann is feeding YOU.  They have divided the
country – THEY did that by framing the discussion around party politics instead
of real issues.  And, desperate people will cling to anything for hope,
will follow if they feel they will be saved.  We’re not being saved; we’re
being enslaved.  Bachmann is just another example of how today’s
politicians use emotion and desperation to corral the disenfranchised for their
own gain.

Maybe you don’t see my point.  Maybe you are so brainwashed that you think
Bachmann and her ilk are the second coming and will save this country from
itself.  Well, the only people who can save this country from itself are
the voters.  EDUCATED voters…and that doesn’t mean college…it means
don’t sit there and take what they say as the truth.  Delve deeper. 
Do some hard work to REALLY figure out who these people are.  DO YOUR
HOMEWORK.  She may be pretty and you may like what you hear, but she is
not the answer to what ails us.  She is the distraction sent to keep you
occupied.

Remember:  Hitler was an incredibly charismatic speaker who touched the
hearts and minds of desperate Germans during desperate times.  He spoke to
their fears; he spoke to their pain.  He rallied their Nationalism; he
called them to BE strong, patriotic Germans.  They followed him in
droves.  And over 6 million people lost their lives.  Bachmann and
the others may not be a Hitler in the making, but that example, and others like
it, shows what can happen when people allow emotion to rule their minds instead
of common sense and intelligence.  It’s time to wake up.

The democratic party and this President is the worst threat to this nation that we have faced in two hundred years. The wild spending of the democratic and the arrogance of this President lead to the down-grade. This down grade was designed and manufactured in the white house.

The republican put up three plans to stave off this downgrade. Paul Ryan budget was presented in time to debate it in full and make changes that were un-acceptable but Reid did not allow debate. The Sectary of treasure guaranteed no down grade if the debt limit was raised. He lied the same as Obama did when he said illegals would not be covered under Obama care.

What we really need to do, what is far more important than the president, is clean out the House of Representatives and Senate.  Every single one of them must go; especially those on their second or more term in office.  We need to, as a people, force term limits; eliminate corporate campaign contributions; eliminate Congress’ ability to vote themselves benefits and pay raises; eliminate their pensions; eliminate their health care; and, introduce a multi-party system by stripping the Democrat and Republican parties of their power to exclude other parties from participating in the process.  Members of Congress must be returned to “citizen legislator” status. Only then will we see change. 

Joe trying to build rating on a dying network. He knows that he has an audience of non thinking liberals that live from sound bite to sound bite. By ranting his audience of 2000 will turn in tomorrow. He is so insignificant I do not know why Fox nation even reported his rants.
Bachman can show up in a wall mart parking lot and attract more listeners in and hour than Joe can in a month.
President Bachman can not wait till we evict the present occupant of the white house.

Bachman may not be as stupid as she acts, but there is no way this whacko is brilliant. She talks the talking points, even making mistakes there. She likes to scare people. She likes to act like Sarah Palin, or the other way around. Bachman is not what we need for the presidency. We do not need another George Bush. At least she isn’t claiming God told her to run for president, like Bush and Perry.

Thank you. Very well said

If she becomes president, I will need to leave this country. Bachman just likes to hear her own voice.

If she becomes president, I will need to leave this country. Bachman just likes to hear her own voice.

If she becomes president, I will need to leave this country. Bachman just likes to hear her own voice.

I know the truth when I hear it and I did not hear it from the rant of this rabid liberal that can not debate Bachman intellectually so he resorts to distortion and name calling. Bachman is far more capable and more experienced than the current occupant of the white house. It not only the conservative that is saying that Obama  is over his head and does not have the experience to lead this nation but none other than the liberal rag the New York Times.

Thank you for taking the time to write such a spot on comment about the current political climate in this country.

Tax cuts are Keynesian, though Keynes and followers believed they were less effective than spending increases because of the marginal propensity to consume is less than 100 percent (some of the tax cut would be saved rather than spent).  Unfortunately, Keynes failed to take into account the inefficiency involved when government does the spending.  He treated all spending as being equal.  This has clearly been disproved.  The bang for the buck factor at this point might be something like 10 to 1 buck over bang.

In response to Spunky:

“Every single one of them must go; especially those
on their second or more term in office.  We need to, as a people, force term
limits;”

Excellent.  Let’s make sure our government is run by 535 inexperienced naive bubbleheads who don’t have enough seasoning in office to realize how much harm
they can cause by intemperate comments like “default isn’t such a bad
thing”

“eliminate corporate
campaign contributions;”

Yes.  Let’s ignore that pesky First Amendment thing about freedom of speech, and the idea of a participatory democracy.  They just makes things messy.
 

“eliminate Congress’
ability to vote themselves benefits and pay raises; eliminate their pensions; eliminate
their health care;”

Wonderful!  That
way, the only people who could afford to serve in congress are multi-millionaires
with enough in the bank that they don’t need a pension and can afford to pay
for their own health care.  (Perhaps we could just borrow the British House of Lords instead?)

Tax cuts are Keynesian.  They are not exclusively Keynes, but he agrees that it is one to stimulate the economy. There are certain facts that no one disagrees on.  Keynes thought that tax cuts or quantitative easing where ways to stimulate the economy, but in a recession they are not reliable due to uncertainty (animal spirits).  People will save the money instead of spend it making the economy shrink faster.  The only sure way to get the economy going is government spending.   

She certainly is not stupid in any raw intelligence measure, But she only appeals to simple minded theocon crackpots who share her simple minded biblical paranoid world view like you. Considering how she and her family took advantage of various government programs like Medicaid for her husband’s less than professional psych service or farm subsidies, she comes across really weak complaining about the nanny state that she fed off of too.

Robert Black, I know the truth when I hear it too, and you and the average paranoid crackpot she attracts aren’t speaking it.

Slime, like from Palin, Newt, W, or yours?

You mean he isn’t a typical stupid right wing conformist who listens to and believes in Rush and loves Palin?

Non thinking would be a label that I would apply to you or Michelle before Joe’s audience. It seems that anyone who isn’t a teabagger like you has to be a liberal commie.

she is not brilliant, sorry!!

Halperin says Bachmann is a “Di*K”. It’s her husband who’s the “Pus*y”

I agree with Scarborough on this one. Michelle Bachmann is just fine as an elected Congresswoman for her constituents. But she doesn’t belone anywhere NEAR the White House—and neither did Barack Obama!  They are two sides of the same coin–charismatic, inexperienced and radical!

The Democratic Party Screwed the Pooch by bringing us Obama; I hope the Republicans will not double the doo-doo by bringing us Bachmann. 

I’ve been ranting about Bachmann since she decided to run. I’m glad to see Scarborough finally do it too. 

Joe the only joke around here is you and of course all of your Lib/Prog buddies.

You know what Joe does to women he doesn’t have time with he finds someone to crush their scull! Michele watch out he already has a dead intern in his past. He is the Republican version of Teddy Kennedy!

In response to Dan:

It is a shame that you have so little faith in your fellow citizen as to believe that limiting terms, etc. would mean that Congress would be filled with people who are ineffective at their jobs.  We already have a Congress completely ineffective in their jobs and who do not represent the voice of their constituency.  So, what exactly is your fear then?

I thought your comment was both thoughtful and provocative – until it came to the Hitler reference. Why do so many people, who disagree with a politician, bring Hitler into the discussion? Why do they believe it to be an appropriate comparison? Aren’t they are using the same tactics as those whom they are criticizing?

Very well said Thx