Fact: Juan was being blasted off the stage so he blurted out that statement. Didn’t work then or now! That’s the fact!

Well he’s right! Ooo-kay!

Juan loves Obama and will say or do anything to keep him in office even though he is wrong :) Palin writes almost daily and shows her smarts, keeps Obama and his stupidity in check too.

Here are the facts:

#1 Hillary Clinton is the smartest woman in the world.
#2 Barack Obama is the smartest man in the world.
#3 Anyone who believes #1 and/or #2 has their head up their ass.
#4 Without his best friends tele amd prompter, B.O. would be just another run of the mill stumble bumb politician. Oh wait a minute, even with them he is still just a community organizer.

Sorry Sarah. Your intellectual stage contains the cast members of Jersey Shore. It’s one step down from Kim Kardashian and three down from Paris Hilton.

If only you had bigger hands to write more shit on….

Juan is mistaking arrogance for intellect. Besides, how hard can it be to read from a teleprompter?

To a degree, I think he’s right. Palin has a more plain-spoken performance, and when it comes to exuding confidence and stability, Obama beats her hands down. The “real world” and the “theory world” gap is huge between the two, but Palin only really knows how to be Palin… Obama, I believe, is more chameleon like and could change ideas and persona if he thought it would help him in the end.

That said, I think Palin’s future is better left in the Republican party, as perhaps the party chairperson (when Steele finally gives up), than as a political leader. She doesn’t have the tact necessary to be President (not that that’s a bad thing), and is too much of a straight shooter / loose cannon. Obama has polish (although, I’d argue, that’s pretty much all he’s got), and Palin doesn’t… and will likely never get it. But again, I don’t necessarily think that’s a bad thing.

TangledThorns said:
Juan loves Obama and will say or do anything to keep him in office even though he is wrong :) Palin writes almost daily and shows her smarts, keeps Obama and his stupidity in check too.

Noone in their right…I mean correct, mind believes that Sarah Palin even comes close to being an intellectual equal with President Obama. She may have some savvy ~ but that’s a different thing all together.

I wonder if Juan Williams can see the NPR Building from where he now works at News Corp.?? I doubt it! One thing I have noticed over the last couple years. When Shara Palin talked at the podium she did not need a tele-prompter to keep from “studdering” and saying ah,ah and ah! When the gifted President speaks from the podium and is NOT using tele-prompters to tell us something, he can not help to studder and lie to all of us!

zombietimeshare said:
Juan is mistaking arrogance for intellect. Besides, how hard can it be to read from a teleprompter?

You know, a teleprompter can carry one’s own words. Hour long speeches can be hard to memorize. (they certainly don’t fit on the palm of one’s hand) I saw a picture of Palin squinting at a teleprompter on this very site.

You righties confuse folksy soundbites with smarts. They are not the same thing at all.

Tater Salad said:
I wonder if Juan Williams can see the NPR Building from where he now works at News Corp.?? I doubt it! One thing I have noticed over the last couple years. When Shara Palin talked at the podium she did not need a tele-prompter to keep from “studdering” and saying ah,ah and ah! When the gifted President speaks from the podium and is NOT using tele-prompters to tell us something, he can not help to studder and lie to all of us!

I guess a soundbite repeater doesn’t need to remember a whole lot. You don’t need a teleprompter to say *wink now*.

Check the thread titled “Chainsaw-Wielding Sarah Palin….” and see her wondering at what word might have been put there on the teleprompter for her. I bet it was a big word….with more than one syllable and everything!!

Like, you expected Juan Williams to say otherwise? Take away Obama’s teleprompter and he comes out with such chestnuts as “police had “acted stupidly in arresting” his buddy, “share the wealth” to Joe the plumber, and “57 states”.

Russell Smith said:
Here are the facts:

#1 Hillary Clinton is the smartest woman in the world.
#2 Barack Obama is the smartest man in the world.
#3 Anyone who believes #1 and/or #2 has their head up their ass.
#4 Without his best friends tele amd prompter, B.O. would be just another run of the mill stumble bumb politician. Oh wait a minute, even with them he is still just a community organizer.

One year ago, Obama, without his teleprompter, walked in and single-handedly trashed House Republicans with facts. Fox News’ action was to turn away from said event. The entire house of reps republicans cannot fuck with him.

Tater Salad said:
I wonder if Juan Williams can see the NPR Building from where he now works at News Corp.?? I doubt it! One thing I have noticed over the last couple years. When Shara Palin talked at the podium she did not need a tele-prompter to keep from “studdering” and saying ah,ah and ah! When the gifted President speaks from the podium and is NOT using tele-prompters to tell us something, he can not help to studder and lie to all of us!

Please see The_Reasonable_Lib @ 1:39

I have listened to Obimbo, adnausiam. Pee Wee Herman could debate this idiot and probably make far more sense!! Take away this idiot presidents TelePrompTer and he’s lost.

MediaWhore said:
Sorry Sarah. Your intellectual stage contains the cast members of Jersey Shore. It’s one step down from Kim Kardashian and three down from Paris Hilton.

If only you had bigger hands to write more shit on….

Hey, let’s be honest here. Snooki is waaaaaaay smarter than Kim K and Paris lol.

ImNotBlue said:
To a degree, I think he’s right. Palin has a more plain-spoken performance, and when it comes to exuding confidence and stability, Obama beats her hands down. The “real world” and the “theory world” gap is huge between the two, but Palin only really knows how to be Palin… Obama, I believe, is more chameleon like and could change ideas and persona if he thought it would help him in the end.

That said, I think Palin’s future is better left in the Republican party, as perhaps the party chairperson (when Steele finally gives up), than as a political leader. She doesn’t have the tact necessary to be President (not that that’s a bad thing), and is too much of a straight shooter / loose cannon. Obama has polish (although, I’d argue, that’s pretty much all he’s got), and Palin doesn’t… and will likely never get it. But again, I don’t necessarily think that’s a bad thing.

This is grossly off topic but f*ck it. In reference to an earlier convo, I don’t entirely dislike Lady Gaga, I simply hate that she had to sellout to get to where she is. I much prefer this person: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_hHc7TZjyY

CAconservative said:
I have listened to Obimbo, adnausiam. Pee Wee Herman could debate this idiot and probably make far more sense!! Take away this idiot presidents TelePrompTer and he’s lost.

Please see The_Reasonable_Lib @ 1:39

It blows my mind that people on here think that using a teleprompter makes Obama dumb, but they worship idiots like Glenn Beck who make a living doing NOTHING but reading off of a teleprompter.

William was a hero on the Right when he got fired from NPR.
Now he’s about to be destroyed by the Right because he said something against Sarah Palin.

This should be interesting.

Juan simply said what everyone else is thinking. The half-term gov couldn’t stand on the intellectual stage with Levi Johnston let alone Obama. She’s a celebrity buffoon, much like Paris Hilton and everyone knows it.

Please explain why he is considered a genius? His lawyers got him elected to the State Senate. His school records cannot be accessed. According to the left, you dont have to be smart to be president (GW)…His has been proven wrong on most major topics..ie…Economy, Gulf Spill, Immigration,..proper etiquette has eluded him so far..Even common sense situations seem to much for him, Cambridge Police, Ethics in the Senate..So why is he considered so smart?

CAconservative said:
I have listened to Obimbo, adnausiam. Pee Wee Herman could debate this idiot and probably make far more sense!! Take away this idiot presidents TelePrompTer and he’s lost.

Is that why McCain was absolutely destroyed in the Presidential debates? And what would happen to all the other Presidents who used teleprompters or note cards, including Presidents Nixon and Reagan? I never remember people complaining about their using prompts, like you childishly do….

And I think Pee Wee Herman would give you a good fight, in a debate, or on the playground.

Obeezy said:
Please explain why he is considered a genius? His lawyers got him elected to the State Senate. His school records cannot be accessed. According to the left, you dont have to be smart to be president (GW)…His has been proven wrong on most major topics..ie…Economy, Gulf Spill, Immigration,..proper etiquette has eluded him so far..Even common sense situations seem to much for him, Cambridge Police, Ethics in the Senate..So why is he considered so smart?

Columbia, Harvard, University of Chicago. How does your resume read?

I don’t see the big deal in Juans comment…he didn’t slam or personal attack her, he gave his own dignified opinion. ..that’s why fox has him on…I m a Palin supporter, and I do like Juan Williams a lot. ..just don’t agree with most of his politics. ….BTW, it be nice to see fox keep there fair and balance word/ trade mark and give Juan his own nightly spot. …

MediaWhore said:
Sorry Sarah. Your intellectual stage contains the cast members of Jersey Shore. It’s one step down from Kim Kardashian and three down from Paris Hilton.

If only you had bigger hands to write more shit on….

Man, I love the fact that you’re using that dumb-ass’s picture. Please, do not stop using it. I bet that infuriates him, that self-important gasbag.

I wish Hillary would decide to run against Obama. Then the left would have to divide their hatred between her and Palin.

one is a better bullshit artist than the other, who cares

Juan, is Barry the smartest in all 57 states? Do Corpsemen feel that way too?

Why don’t we all be honest regardless of your party choice in a battle of wits against any 2012 contenter Palin is a dwarf. In fairness to her she is a great rags to riches story thanks to McCain. She was not a VP contender in 2008 and she is not Presidential contender in 2012 or any future election years. If she really has political ambitions she should run for the house or senate, but I personally don’t think she wants to take that kind of pay cut. At least at this point in her life.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
One year ago, Obama, without his teleprompter, walked in and single-handedly trashed House Republicans with facts.

Totally false!

Obama listened to Rev. Wright for twenty years, and still had no idea what he’d been saying. How smart could he be?

Over the years, I have come to the conclusion that if someone has to remind us how intelligent they or their friends are…then they probably aren’t. They like to refer to themselves as “Intellectuals.”

I sure hold true when an article on Sarah Palin is written.

Palin & her typical Repug minions is/are too involved w speaking in tongues, licking the skins of serpents while shooting moose & watching NASCAR from the backs of animatronic dinosaurs adorned with “Jesus Is My Co-pilot” bumper-stickers. The most appaling, insulting caracature of female empowerment in modern history. Ummm. But she DOES speak as well as ANY Repug. Except maybe Lucifer.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
One year ago, Obama, without his teleprompter, walked in and single-handedly trashed House Republicans with facts. Fox News’ action was to turn away from said event. The entire house of reps republicans cannot fuck with him.

When was this? Would you happen to have a link to a site that shows it or a report of what happened?

Good God Juan, Obama can’t stand on the intellectual stage with Obama. It is nothing more than an act by a mediocre Harvard grad that 53% of voting population bought into.
For those of us that work and produce for a living, he is what is referred to as “an educated Idiot”.
He has learned how it should work in theory, but has no idea or experience to put those theories in to action.
The guy is the biggest error since James Earl Carter.

SarahP said:
Columbia, Harvard, University of Chicago. How does your resume read?

Affirmative action..Now we know that if you go to one of these schools according to you they are a genius, Great, Now what DID HE DO that you consider him so smart

redleaf said:
William [sic] was a hero on the Right when he got fired from NPR.
Now he’s about to be destroyed by the Right because he said something against Sarah Palin.

Dream on. He’s not the first, and I’m sure he won’t be the last, to say something negative about Palin on Fox. And, in case you haven’t noticed, there are plenty on the Right who are critical of Palin.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
This is grossly off topic but f*ck it. In reference to an earlier convo, I don’t entirely dislike Lady Gaga, I simply hate that she had to sellout to get to where she is. I much prefer this person: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_hHc7TZjyY

Okay, we can go with this (mostly because the other stuff you said I disagree with (and is wrong), but other people will fight that one for now.

I don’t actually see Gaga as selling out, versus her original persona. I think to sell out, management needs to convince you to change… it’s not really the artists decision, rather it’s the executive’s decision. Gaga, on the other hand, seems to have made a personal decision herself to make crappy radio music (her name, “Gaga,” is -according to Wiki- a reference to Queen’s song, “Radio Gaga,” which mocked the crappy radio music). She knows what she’s doing, and does it well.

The real question will be if when her career as “Gaga” is over, does she fight to stay relevant, or does she gracefully slide away and go back to song writing for other artists. That will be the real test of how self aware she truly is.

jjay7381 said:
It blows my mind that people on here think that using a teleprompter makes Obama dumb, but they worship idiots like Glenn Beck who make a living doing NOTHING but reading off of a teleprompter.

First off, it’s not that he uses the prompter that’s the problem, it’s that he relies on the prompter… using it for even short speeches. It makes him look lazy… like he’s the “Reader in Chief,” not the Commander.

Secondly, Beck writes his own stuff along with a small staff… Obama has a team of speech writers who do the thinking for him, or so it appears. Again, that’s part of the problem… and totally different.

In short, it’s not the prompter that makes him look foolish, it’s that it always feels like he’s reading AT us, not talking TO us. Anyone can practice enough to read the prompter, but doing so doesn’t inspire confidence… just means you can read moving text.

ChuckfromTacoma said:
The guy is the biggest error since James Earl Carter.

Apparently your attention span does not include the early 2000s. One George W. Bush may very well go down in history as one of the worst Presidents ever. Many young men and women are dead because of his insane decision to enter Iraq for no logical reason. He stood by as Wall Street whistled, and we had the Great Recession. And the next President had to scramble to get America out of it, with absolutely no help from Mitch McConnell and his minions.

Now I like like GWB personally, and have even read his autobiography. He seems like a nice guy, but ill-suited for the Presidency. (On the other hand, he is so much better than Sarah Palin, who even quit her last political experience.) I don’t condemn the man, but I fear that America is the worst because of his leadership. You guys didn’t even give the current President a couple of weeks in office before you screamed.

Tater Salad says:
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I wonder if Juan Williams can see the NPR Building from where he now works at News Corp.?? I doubt it! One thing I have noticed over the last couple years. When Shara Palin talked at the podium she did not need a tele-prompter to keep from “studdering” and saying ah,ah and ah! When the gifted President speaks from the podium and is NOT using tele-prompters to tell us something, he can not help to studder and lie to all of us!
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You do know that Sarah Palin reads from notes, right?

Obeezy says:
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Please explain why he is considered a genius? His lawyers got him elected to the State Senate. His school records cannot be accessed. According to the left, you dont have to be smart to be president (GW)…His has been proven wrong on most major topics..ie…Economy, Gulf Spill, Immigration,..proper etiquette has eluded him so far..Even common sense situations seem to much for him, Cambridge Police, Ethics in the Senate..So why is he considered so smart?
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Law school was another story for Obama. He graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School (the second highest honor available) in 1991. He also was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, a very prestigious honor.

You do know what that means, right?

Magna cum laude = with high honor; with high academic distinction

It is amazing how many people on this board is defending her. This is only the beginning. You didn’t really think they would let her run for president did you?

Juan Williams is so right; Palin should be in entertainment, she has the personality for it. You need more than personality to hold the Presidency or any of many jobs under the President. We all know Palin is smarter than the average but multiply that time Mega and that is where she would need to be to make it Global. It’s not going to happen. I think the Democrats hope she runs.

Some Sara Palin quotes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsEoqm0paww

TrollJuice said:
Obeezy says:December 27, 2010 at 1:51 pm Obeezy(Quote)Thumb up 4 Thumb down 7 Please explain why he is considered a genius? His lawyers got him elected to the State Senate. His school records cannot be accessed. According to the left, you dont have to be smart to be president (GW)…His has been proven wrong on most major topics..ie…Economy, Gulf Spill, Immigration,..proper etiquette has eluded him so far..Even common sense situations seem to much for him, Cambridge Police, Ethics in the Senate..So why is he considered so smart?==================== Law school was another story for Obama. He graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School (the second highest honor available) in 1991. He also was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, a very prestigious honor. You do know what that means, right? Magna cum laude = with high honor; with high academic distinction

Well credentialed doesn’t mean a fricking thing in the real world. Show me his grades, until I see them myself, I have to assume he was a recipient of academic affirmative action, not actual merit.

notsofast said:
Totally false!

RichS said:
When was this? Would you happen to have a link to a site that shows it or a report of what happened?

@Notsofast ahh, I’m sorry, it wasn’t quite a year ago. Aside from that I am in no way wrong.

@RichS yes, I would happen to have video AND transcript. Not surprised that you missed it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/29/transcript-of-president-o_n_442423.html

I think Juan’s right, as far as it goes. look, I’ve got two words for the tea partiers who think Palin would be a swell presidential candidate: CHRISTINE O’DONNELL. ok?

whether it’s true or not, there’s definitely a perception that Obama is incredibly brilliant and Palin is incredibly stupid. I have a feeling she’s not as dumb as she seems, and we know for a fact that Obama’s not as smart as he thinks. still, that’s the perception.

instead of pretending that Sarah Palin could beat Obama, why don’t we (Republicans) come up with someone Chris Christie who has a chance of actually winning?

Thank you, Juan, for stating the patently obvious. I guess that’s why Murdoch pays you the big bucks.

TO Troll Juice…Why hasnt anyone come out and said they remember him at Columbia? Why hasnt anything he wrote while president of The Harvard Law review ever been published or even found? I could say i went to Cambridge and Oxford, but barring anyone actually remembering me there, its my word against yours…Its a slippery slope…Unless you are 1 of the other 42 presidents, whose entire life can be found
By the the way, I personally think Sarah Palin is not presidential material..But she sure gets the lefts undies all bunched up and thats gotta be good for something

I don’t think Juan knows much about Palin. She can ask some pretty embarrassing questions that will put Obama on his heel. He will be hard put to speak the truth because he made so many promises he didn’t keep that that alone should be reason enough for him to look for the exits. He promised before that he would go through every bill with a fine toothed comb to eliminate earmarks. Has he kept that promise? Of course not which begs the issue of his credibility and his character. I don’t think anyone who occupies the office of president should use bold faced lies to advance his agenda. Obama has done this as have Bill Clinton and others.

ImNotBlue said:
Okay, we can go with this (mostly because the other stuff you said I disagree with (and is wrong), but other people will fight that one for now.

I don’t actually see Gaga as selling out, versus her original persona. I think to sell out, management needs to convince you to change… it’s not really the artists decision, rather it’s the executive’s decision. Gaga, on the other hand, seems to have made a personal decision herself to make crappy radio music (her name, “Gaga,” is -according to Wiki- a reference to Queen’s song, “Radio Gaga,” which mocked the crappy radio music). She knows what she’s doing, and does it well.

The real question will be if when her career as “Gaga” is over, does she fight to stay relevant, or does she gracefully slide away and go back to song writing for other artists. That will be the real test of how self aware she truly is.

It was wrong from your point of view, but not necessarily wrong. The reason that I chose this particular portion is that I’m actually fairly passionate about music and typically when I discuss it with those from the opposite side of the spectrum all I ever get is “rap is crap” blah blah blah. However, you’re a little atypical so I’m interested in your views.
I view selling out as changing what you do simply to appeal to the masses which is what gaga has done. I do give her some credit for at the very least being aware of it, but that still doesn’t change the fact that she makes crap. Rather it actually angers me a little more (contradictory, i know) because she actually knows what she’s doing and keeps on throwing it out regardless as opposed to say Lil Wayne who’s stuck in his own fantasy world and actually thinks he’s the greatest rapper alive. It’s the same problem that I have with Eminem; a very talented artist has neglected that talent and fallen in line with the masses.

That’s another problem with selling out; you’re a fad. You’re not a lasting thing. Elton John remains relevant because he isn’t a fad, true artists maintain their base past the fascination. This is why Rage Against The Machine can come and do a soldout concert after not releasing anything as a group in years.

“Elton John remains relevant because he isn’t a fad, true artists maintain their base past the fascination.”

Tilt.

Sadly, one of the mosted gifted artists (early years) who sold out big time after Yellow brick Road.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I view selling out as changing what you do simply to appeal to the masses which is what gaga has done. I do give her some credit for at the very least being aware of it, but that still doesn’t change the fact that she makes crap. Rather it actually angers me a little more (contradictory, i know) because she actually knows what she’s doing and keeps on throwing it out regardless as opposed to say Lil Wayne who’s stuck in his own fantasy world and actually thinks he’s the greatest rapper alive.

I hear you… but I think the awareness that what you’re doing is crap, makes it somehow more acceptable. I have no patience for folks who think they’re great, when they’re not. To me, that’s a lot more frustrating. Again, I give Gaga credit because I don’t think she thinks she’s great… and everyone’s gotta make a buck.

I guess on a scale, the folks who make crap, and know it’s crap are a step better than those who don’t know it.

It’s the same problem that I have with Eminem; a very talented artist has neglected that talent and fallen in line with the masses.

Eh, I don’t like Eminem because it’s obvious he started to take himself too seriously. When he came out originally, he was just goofy. Now, he just looks angry. I find that persona pretty boring.

That’s another problem with selling out; you’re a fad. You’re not a lasting thing. Elton John remains relevant because he isn’t a fad, true artists maintain their base past the fascination.

Well… yes, and no. Some artists have sold out, but remained popular (or at least with a strong fan base). I’m a big Aerosmith fan, but it’s undeniable that Aerosmith of the 90s and now, are completely different than Aerosmith of the 70s. They’re virtually two different bands, with different sounds. Now personally, I can appreciate both… but later Aerosmith was a sellout band, making songs that would get good radio play.

But every time I’ve seen them live (6 times, I think), they always pack the crowds in… even without newer albums. So despite their “fad band” later persona, they’ve been able to maintain their fan base. Although, I will admit, their being able to do so is rare.

This is why Rage Against The Machine can come and do a sold out concert after not releasing anything as a group in years.

Eh… Rage is think is a different story. Rage gets lot of attention because they were so heavily political, so a lot of their fans go to hear that type of stuff. Personally, I think the only band more arrogant and up their own ass than Rage is REM… but that’s just me.

I think a better example would have been Billy Joel. I was at the “Last Play At Shea” concert (day two), and a better, louder, more enthusiastic crowd I have never seen. And he remarked at one point that he was amazed he was able to sell out like that (and the “12 Gardens” performance a few years earlier) despite not having released anything new for a long time.

Of course, a more radio friendly performer, you might have trouble finding…

timzank said:
Sadly, one of the mosted gifted artists (early years) who sold out big time after Yellow brick Road.

Some of his 80s stuff was simply un-listen-to able. Still a fan… but there are a lot more “next song” than some other artists.

Biden and Reid perceived Obama to be a ‘genius’, simply because Obama was ‘clean, articulate, and didn’t speak with a black dialect’, in their own words. No one has ever referred to a white man, with those same 3 qualities, as a ‘genius.’ Imo, white liberals such as Biden and Reid, have set much lower standards for the first black president, as far as [intellect], than has ever been set for a white president. You’d think Juan would recognize the condescension of the ‘superior’ white liberals and their low standards for Obama and call them out on it. White liberals, as usual, always get away with their subtle bigotries. LOL. Brainwashing…

timzank said:
Well credentialed doesn’t mean a fricking thing in the real world. Show me his grades, until I see them myself, I have to assume he was a recipient of academic affirmative action, not actual merit.

Until you see his grades, you assume he was an affirmative action recipient???????? That is incredibly bigoted! My God, man! You assume that because he is an African American, he has to to prove his academic worth, or else! That is really, I mean really, racist! Would you have assumed a white person to be “white trash” unless you saw his/her grades? This is really, stupid, and mean-spirited.

Obeezy said:
TO Troll Juice…Why hasnt anyone come out and said they remember him at Columbia? Why hasnt anything he wrote while president of The Harvard Law review ever been published or even found? I could say i went to Cambridge and Oxford, but barring anyone actually remembering me there, its my word against yours…Its a slippery slope…Unless you are 1 of the other 42 presidents, whose entire life can be foundBy the the way, I personally think Sarah Palin is not presidential material..But she sure gets the lefts undies all bunched up and thats gotta be good for something

Well, we got ourselves a bonfide “birthers” type here!

James Nelson said:
Until you see his grades, you assume he was an affirmative action recipient???????? That is incredibly bigoted! My God, man! You assume that because he is an African American, he has to to prove his academic worth, or else! That is really, I mean really, racist! Would you have assumed a white person to be “white trash” unless you saw his/her grades? This is really, stupid, and mean-spirited.

Thank you for pointing out this bit of racism. There is really no other name for it.

notsofast said:
Totally false!

Totally true!! And he didn’t have to write stuff on his hands either!

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James Nelson said:
Well, we got ourselves a bonfide “birthers” type here!

I could care less where he was born…Still cant deny anything i said though…Be a good little leftie and go dispute anything i said….

James Nelson said:
Until you see his grades, you assume he was an affirmative action recipient???????? That is incredibly bigoted! My God, man! You assume that because he is an African American, he has to to prove his academic worth, or else! That is really, I mean really, racist! Would you have assumed a white person to be “white trash” unless you saw his/her grades? This is really, stupid, and mean-spirited.

DO some research..The Obamas admitted they might have benefitted from it….Stupid idiot!

Obeezy said:
DO some research..The Obamas admitted they might have benefitted from it….Stupid idiot!

Pure bullshit. You are a moron.

Most of you regulars on here know i’m a conservative republican BUT…. Juan hit the nail on the head on this one. I KNEW the moment I heard McCain announce Sarah Palin ( and yes I do like her ) as his pick to run for VP he made the biggest mistake ever. Even while the Republican Base was getting all Jazzed up I had a feeling that was making me sick to my stomach. Kudos once again for Juan Williams. As bad as I hate to say it. I always knew that Sarah is not Smart enough to hold the post of the most powerful person in the world. Sorry fellow right wingers… I just call ‘em like I see ‘em.

James Nelson said:
incredibly bigoted! My God, man

SarahP said:
You are a moron

Fact: The gruesome twosome strike again with trashy name calling! Pitiful just pitiful!

Just4thefax said:
Fact: The gruesome twosome strike again with trashy name calling! Pitiful just pitiful!

The gutless racist finally returns. Did the heat get a bit too much for you? Sorry, but now you’ve been exposed as an idiot and a racist.

Pokerdude777 said:
Most of you regulars on here know i’m a conservative republican BUT…. Juan hit the nail on the head on this one. I KNEW the moment I heard McCain announce Sarah Palin ( and yes I do like her ) as his pick to run for VP he made the biggest mistake ever. Even while the Republican Base was getting all Jazzed up I had a feeling that was making me sick to my stomach. Kudos once again for Juan Williams. As bad as I hate to say it. I always knew that Sarah is not Smart enough to hold the post of the most powerful person in the world. Sorry fellow right wingers… I just call ‘em like I see ‘em.

Although Palin needs to brush-up on current events, domestic policies, and foreign policies, if she hopes to run for prez, I genuinely don’t believe Obama is qualified to be the leader of the free world, either. Sure, he speaks well, but so do I and I’m not qualified, presently, to run as prez of the US. Obama is a puppet for Soros and other anti-Americans, thus, reads from his ideologically-provided script. Blah, blah, blah. As for the liberals here, get a new argument other than charges of racism. That charge is old, tired, and ignorant.

TangledThorns said:

Palin writes almost daily and shows her smarts, keeps Obama and his stupidity in check too.

“Refudiate” and twit speak on twitter? Yeah, that is really intelligent!

Russell Smith said:
Here are the facts:

#1 Hillary Clinton is the smartest woman in the world.
#2 Barack Obama is the smartest man in the world.
#3 Anyone who believes #1 and/or #2 has their head up their ass.
#4 Without his best friends tele amd prompter, B.O. would be just another run of the mill stumble bumb politician. Oh wait a minute, even with them he is still just a community organizer.

1. Strawman.
2. Strawman.
3. Only person to bring 1 and 2 into this discussion is the one with an oak tree up their rectum.
4. Go to CSPAN.com and watch the HUNDREDS of Obama townhall meetings with no teleprompter. Also, search for his debates with McCain and the whiplashing he unleashed on the GOP House conference earlier this year.

After you do all that, find me any equivalent Sarah Palin public speaking on policy. You seriously can’t be that blind, can you?

Obeezy said:
DO some research..The Obamas admitted they might have benefitted from it….Stupid idiot!

This is not an affirmation. It would have been equally ignorant for them to say they did not. They do not know. You are making the same specious argument every bigoted conservative always makes. I never heard even once liberals say or claim that Condy Rice benefited from affirmative action to her administrative positions in the Bush cabinet. Liberals did not question her competence, not once based on race. Yet, every time there’s a person of color in a position of power, it is inferred, by the right, that that person only got to that position due to affirmative action. That is a passive racist meme. It basically says, a black person can not attain that position without help since they are generally intellectually inferior. It is a RACIST supposition whether stated explicitly or not.

shearwater said:
I don’t think Juan knows much about Palin. She can ask some pretty embarrassing questions that will put Obama on his heel. He will be hard put to speak the truth because he made so many promises he didn’t keep that that alone should be reason enough for him to look for the exits. He promised before that he would go through every bill with a fine toothed comb to eliminate earmarks. Has he kept that promise? Of course not which begs the issue of his credibility and his character. I don’t think anyone who occupies the office of president should use bold faced lies to advance his agenda. Obama has done this as have Bill Clinton and others.

Partisan much? Nice to see you mention Democrat Presidents as the liars and obviously not explicitly mention the ONE President who was forced to RESIGN from office for doing those nefarious unprovable things you claim Obama has done. Who made you the arbiter of “truth” by the way? Why are you mad that Obama “has not fulfilled his promises” when you didn’t even want him elected to that office in the first place? This misplaced rage and faux disappointment is as phony as Milli Vanilli and the backwards-B-faced bitch. .

A banquet hall full of Republican Congressman couldn’t stand up against President Obama. This poor woman is out of her league any where other than on Hannity’s show.

SarahP said:
Pure bullshit. You are a moron.

Says the racist paid troll..go back to beating women and slapping babies..I see you on here bashing anyone who doesnt have the same back ass brains as you,,

Gasket said:
This is not an affirmation. It would have been equally ignorant for them to say they did not. They do not know. You are making the same specious argument every bigoted conservative always makes. I never heard even once liberals say or claim that Condy Rice benefited from affirmative action to her administrative positions in the Bush cabinet. Liberals did not question her competence, not once based on race. Yet, every time there’s a person of color in a position of power, it is inferred, by the right, that that person only got to that position due to affirmative action. That is a passive racist meme. It basically says, a black person can not attain that position without help since they are generally intellectually inferior. It is a RACIST supposition whether stated explicitly or not.

Um Wrong!!!! I could look up anything Condi Rice did, where she went to school and what papers she wrote, the same cant be said for Obama…Stop whining and admit you and all the other lefties on here look at people through color and race, not by accomplishments

Well, Juan Williams is a Progressive. The message doesn’t matter to Progressives, it’s the messenger. It’s all that Progressives really have left since their policies are all proven failures; the only thing they have left is to ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK.

And this is of course a horrible, transparent strategy, but Progressives have utter contempt for the intellect of the unwashed masses and think that these mindless tactics will actually work. Good luck! It worked wonders in 2010 *LOL*

Gasket said:
You seriously can’t be that blind, can you?

Yes, they can. Blind, stupid and mean… all day, every day. Oh, and I should mention the pervasive hypocrisy. They know nothing else. Their development was stunted in the terrible twos. They never graduated to stage three development, aka, empathy, so they don’t understand it. They literally see the very concept of empathy as dangerous, because they are perpetually stuck in the fight or flight reflex. If it isn’t good for them directly, by definition it’s bad for everyone, in their minds. Because the only person that exists in the terrible twos is the “self.” Everything else, all other people, all that came before and all that will go after, are nothing more than props in their worldview. “We” are in their way. That’s all they know, and all they’ll ever care about.

Like any typical bully, they are full of themselves all the time, until they run out of arguments, and then they disappear, not to be seen until they regain their confidence with a totally different topic. Their lives are a misery brought about by their own selfish choices and they project their self-hatred on the web as a salve for their pretzeled consciences. And those who don’t fit that pattern are getting paid to troll websites like Mediaite and pretend there’s a grass-roots movement to “take America back.” (And some of them are actually pretty good at it, sad as that is.)

The right-wingers here are a total waste of time and human flesh. The only benefit of commenting here is making sure their hate-filled lies and distortions don’t stand alone.

Hope that helps! ;-)

Obeezy said:
Um Wrong!!!! I could look up anything Condi Rice did, where she went to school and what papers she wrote, the same cant be said for Obama…Stop whining and admit you and all the other lefties on here look at people through color and race, not by accomplishments

Mrs Rice was not POTUS. Bush was, so your response there is ludicrous. As I was saying, lefties did not say Rice was an affirmative action appointee. Remember, there’s a big difference between Rice and Obama. Rice was appointed, Obama was elected! I don’t get why you people bring “affirmative action” arguments when someone was elected by over 60 million people. It’s quite plainly….stupid!

I love how liberals love to talk about how “smart” they are. Obama is revered as an “intellectual”. But why? Because he somehow got into Harvard? That he somehow got on the Harvard Law Review while only writing ONE paper?

But that’s not the point.

The point is who is right. I would take Palin every day of the week over Obama because the math is against Obama: smart * wrong = wrong.

Obama isn’t working to make things better, he’s working to make things “equal” – which we know cannot work.

Please Palin couldn’t stand on the intellectual stage with Kate Gosselin. Next time her reality show does a crossover they should stick to her intellectual equals, the cast of Jersey Shore.

Say what you will about Palin’s intellectual prowess but she sure as hell loves this country and isn’t constantly apologizing for it, contrast that with Obama’s lifelong inculcation and associations with America hating Marxists and Communists that left their mark on him philosophically. The American people were taken in by the Messiah personification generated by the media and only after they saw how he governed did they realize they bought a pig in a poke, he’s a one term socialist president and I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a Democrat primary challenge.

The people have woken up and they’re just getting started with putting this government back under the authority of the Constitution this is not about political parties I’m not falling for the good cop bad cop routine anymore, it’s a good and healthy sign!

PC Kryptonite said:
Say what you will about Palin’s intellectual prowess but she sure as hell loves this country

Is that why her husband belonged to a group that was for Alaska to seceed from the US? Is that why she spoke at one of their meetings?

PC Kryptonite said:
Say what you will about Palin’s intellectual prowess but she sure as hell loves this country and isn’t constantly apologizing for it, contrast that with Obama’s lifelong inculcation and associations with America hating Marxists and Communists that left their mark on him philosophically. The American people were taken in by the Messiah personification generated by the media and only after they saw how he governed did they realize they bought a pig in a poke, he’s a one term socialist president and I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a Democrat primary challenge.

The people have woken up and they’re just getting started with putting this government back under the authority of the Constitution this is not about political parties I’m not falling for the good cop bad cop routine anymore, it’s a good and healthy sign!

Yes, very good, thanks! Plain would be a much better leader than Obama. Obama is so divisive.

As you say, Plain LOVES the country, too. Obama doesn’t seem to like it here.

JamesA1102 said:
Please Palin couldn’t stand on the intellectual stage with Kate Gosselin. Next time her reality show does a crossover they should stick to her intellectual equals, the cast of Jersey Shore.

Take Obama’s teleprompter away. You’ve been duped; Obama doesn’t seem that smart. He’s not a good leader either as he is so divisive.

Cases in point:

Alz said:
Obama isn’t working to make things better, he’s working to make things “equal” – which we know cannot work.

Alz said:
As you say, Plain LOVES the country, too. Obama doesn’t seem to like it here.

Alz said:
He’s not a good leader either as he is so divisive.

Based on absolutely nothing but opinions ill-formed by watching Fox and listening to the right wing sirens on the radio all day… every day. But it sure makes Alz feel big and cool to say it. Yes it does. Makes Alz feel like he’s on the moral high ground when he talks about those dirty liberals and their nefarious plans to make the whole world and everyone in it gray. Makes him feel intellectual to call Obama “divisive,” even though there isn’t a shred of evidence to support that idea, and in fact, TONS of evidence to show he’s been TOO conciliatory with conservatives. But nothing is ever enough for the reactionary ideologue. Nothing. Despite the fact that all mainstream media is owned by the conservative corporate elite, Alz actually believes there’s an all-powerful liberal cabal secretly working behind the scenes to steal his money and make him live in a ghetto surrounded by nothing but gray people who don’t care about “equality,” but “being equal.” He really, truly, actually believes that bullshit, no matter that he has no evidence to support it. How does anyone reach a mind like that? What could you do or say that would make him see his pretzel logic, his unhinged bias and self-defeating ideologies? At what point does the signal penetrate the noise? Answer: it doesn’t.

Alz, and all like him, are lost to us. They are totally irretrievable. Nothing good ever comes from a debate with them. They don’t want a fair fight, they want to win, at any and all costs. Nothing else matters but the win. They’re like the little dog chasing a car – they have no idea what catching the car means, but they will chase it until they eat chrome. No stopping it. No reasoning with it. They are lemmings and they WILL go over that cliff. Nothing anyone says will change that. And when the day comes that they finally realize they were wrong and all those riches they expected to come flowing their way under GOP rule don’t materialize, who will they blame? Yep, liberals, just like they already have for the Bush recession. Because, to listen to conservatives, they are biologically incapable of making mistakes, never get anything wrong, are always in the right, always know what’s best, always know what SHOULD have been done, obviously. And anyone who doesn’t go along with their little fantasies is to be dehumanized. Gordon Bloyer once even went so far as to invite me to kill myself. What a guy! Alz hasn’t gone that far yet. But he will. Only a matter of time.

Paul, have you seen your doctor lately? Minor behavioral changes can prevent serious cardiac and neurological events.Take care of yourself, buddy. i don’t want to have to worry about you.

Paul Westlake said:
Cases in point:

Based on absolutely nothing but opinions ill-formed by watching Fox and listening to the right wing sirens on the radio all day… every day. But it sure makes Alz feel big and cool to say it. Yes it does. Makes Alz feel like he’s on the moral high ground when he talks about those dirty liberals and their nefarious plans to make the whole world and everyone in it gray. Makes him feel intellectual to call Obama “divisive,” even though there isn’t a shred of evidence to support that idea, and in fact, TONS of evidence to show he’s been TOO conciliatory with conservatives. But nothing is ever enough for the reactionary ideologue. Nothing. Despite the fact that all mainstream media is owned by the conservative corporate elite, Alz actually believes there’s an all-powerful liberal cabal secretly working behind the scenes to steal his money and make him live in a ghetto surrounded by nothing but gray people who don’t care about “equality,” but “being equal.” He really, truly, actually believes that bullshit, no matter that he has no evidence to support it. How does anyone reach a mind like that? What could you do or say that would make him see his pretzel logic, his unhinged bias and self-defeating ideologies? At what point does the signal penetrate the noise? Answer: it doesn’t.

Alz, and all like him, are lost to us. They are totally irretrievable. Nothing good ever comes from a debate with them. They don’t want a fair fight, they want to win, at any and all costs. Nothing else matters but the win. They’re like the little dog chasing a car – they have no idea what catching the car means, but they will chase it until they eat chrome. No stopping it. No reasoning with it. They are lemmings and they WILL go over that cliff. Nothing anyone says will change that. And when the day comes that they finally realize they were wrong and all those riches they expected to come flowing their way under GOP rule don’t materialize, who will they blame? Yep, liberals, just like they already have for the Bush recession. Because, to listen to conservatives, they are biologically incapable of making mistakes, never get anything wrong, are always in the right, always know what’s best, always know what SHOULD have been done, obviously. And anyone who doesn’t go along with their little fantasies is to be dehumanized. Gordon Bloyer once even went so far as to invite me to kill myself. What a guy! Alz hasn’t gone that far yet. But he will. Only a matter of time.

Liberalism is NOT on an equal footing with Conservatism. I have no problem acting superior to leftism because leftism sucks. It always ends up hurting people over time.

And I NEVER said that conservatives never make mistakes. We aren’t perfect! But at least we have a system for making corrections. But even this system isn’t perfect. On the other hand, liberalism never gets better. Innovation is when a better way to fool people is invented.

Oh, and I would never say or think that you should kill yourself. You are probably a very nice person, but your belief system is wrong.

I know you won’t “get it”, but I’ll keep trying. Take care!

Pablo said:
Paul, have you seen your doctor lately? Minor behavioral changes can prevent serious cardiac and neurological events.Take care of yourself, buddy. i don’t want to have to worry about you.

Nice effort, Pabs, but you know I’m right. 100%

Alz said:
Liberalism is NOT on an equal footing with Conservatism. I have no problem acting superior to leftism because leftism sucks. It always ends up hurting people over time.

Liberalism created America. Period. If you’re against liberalism, you’re against the Declaration of Independence. That’s it. There is nothing else. If you are against liberalsim, you are anti-American. Period. End of story.

Alz said:
And I NEVER said that conservatives never make mistakes. We aren’t perfect! But at least we have a system for making corrections. But even this system isn’t perfect. On the other hand, liberalism never gets better. Innovation is when a better way to fool people is invented.

All the evidence shows that it is conservatives who are easily “innovated.” Not liberals. We think and argue (you don’t travel in the same circles so I guess you haven’t seen the wall-to-wall coverage of the liberal base’s disaffection with Obama). We even air our dirty laundry in public like truly passionate people do, unlike opportunists who hide their true motives, which is the definition of a conservative. You say “states’ rights” but what you want is segregation. You say “fiscal prudence” but you want a free lunch for corporations who pay their executives with taxpayers subsidies by the boatload. You say you want to prevent liberals from making everything “equal” when making everyone “equally destitute” is exactly what you want. You want America to die. You can say whatever you think sounds good but it’s meaningless. It’s who you support that matters. And the people you support are systematically trying to bankrupt the nation and create a permanent underclass in a new third-world America. It’s fucking obvious. You either know and it don’t care because you think you’ll be on the “winning team,” or you’re a right-wing shill who needs it to go that way because all your investments are tied up in fucking America over… just like your heroes over at Goldman Sachs. So, no. You’re flat wrong on every level. You may never have “said” it, but you consistently imply it, along with all the other “we’re perfect” conservatives around here.

Alz said:
Oh, and I would never say or think that you should kill yourself. You are probably a very nice person, but your belief system is wrong.

Yes you will. Eventually. I will never take anything you say as a fact. Nothing. Ever. You are a liar all the time. So I don’t believe you. You will. You absolutely will. Maybe you won’t type it, but you will absolutely think it, if you haven’t already. If you truly believe the things you type and post here, you cannot be true to yourself any other way. Liberals are a threat to the very fabric of America in your worldview. Wishing to get rid of us by any means necessary is the natural progression. You will be that person someday soon, if you aren’t already. Guaranteed. And I mean guaran-fucking-teed! You can take that to the bank.

Oh, and conservatives don’t think – they do what they’re told by the higher-ups. Always. And forever. What will you do when they tell you to kill liberals? Think that can’t happen? What do you think Gordon would do? What do you think unstable urchins like notsoswift would do? Hmm? They’d lock and load! That’s what they’d do… and you’d be three steps behind them… because you’re too good an opportunist to stick your own neck out when the world is full of Gordon Bloyer’s to do it for you, eh? Give ya credit for that much, at least.

But sorry, no. You will wish death on liberals, probably sooner than later, as I said, if you haven’t already. It’s in the DNA of the people you support and agree with. It’s in your DNA, too. There is no such thing as a reasonable conservative anymore, the libertarians and reactionaries saw to that. So if you’re still on board with conservative America, you are that guy, whether you realize it now or not. But I think you know it and just like to pretend you have a conscience. But I ain’t buyin’ it. That ship sailed a long time ago.

Paul Westlake said:
Liberalism created America. Period. If you’re against liberalism, you’re against the Declaration of Independence. That’s it. There is nothing else. If you are against liberalsim, you are anti-American. Period. End of story.

Well, that reverse spin might impress other ignorant leftist dupes, but a simple read of the Constitution proves that America was founded as a “Right Wing Conspiracy.” In fact, the Constitution was written and adopted as our ‘law of the land’ for the SOLE purpose of protecting America from LIBERALISM. That’s why liberals must constantly pervert and misrepresent it in effort to ‘legitimize’ the illegitimate and ‘justify’ the unjustifiable.

Wow, I regret not being able to miss work to stay at this computer as long as this thread survives. Statements like Westlake’s are so typical of liberals, and therefore fun to prove a facade.

“Pillars of Truth and Logic are what’s left standing after the lies of liberalism crumble from around them.” – Davo

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The_Reasonable_Lib said:
RichS

Ok, I listened to the entire thing. No, I didn’t miss it the first time, you just presented it in a way that made it totally unrecognizeable. Please explain how the President “trashed” anyone? I heard what was an honest discussion, I believe. I also heard the President admit that the Republican Party was not the party of no. But where and how was anyone “trashed”, as you said.

Paul Westlake said:
Liberalism created America. Period. If you’re against liberalism, you’re against the Declaration of Independence. That’s it. There is nothing else. If you are against liberalsim, you are anti-American. Period. End of story.

All the evidence shows that it is conservatives who are easily “innovated.” Not liberals. We think and argue (you don’t travel in the same circles so I guess you haven’t seen the wall-to-wall coverage of the liberal base’s disaffection with Obama). We even air our dirty laundry in public like truly passionate people do, unlike opportunists who hide their true motives, which is the definition of a conservative. You say “states’ rights” but what you want is segregation. You say “fiscal prudence” but you want a free lunch for corporations who pay their executives with taxpayers subsidies by the boatload. You say you want to prevent liberals from making everything “equal” when making everyone “equally destitute” is exactly what you want. You want America to die. You can say whatever you think sounds good but it’s meaningless. It’s who you support that matters. And the people you support are systematically trying to bankrupt the nation and create a permanent underclass in a new third-world America. It’s fucking obvious. You either know and it don’t care because you think you’ll be on the “winning team,” or you’re a right-wing shill who needs it to go that way because all your investments are tied up in fucking America over… just like your heroes over at Goldman Sachs. So, no. You’re flat wrong on every level. You may never have “said” it, but you consistently imply it, along with all the other “we’re perfect” conservatives around here.

Yes you will. Eventually. I will never take anything you say as a fact. Nothing. Ever. You are a liar all the time. So I don’t believe you. You will. You absolutely will. Maybe you won’t type it, but you will absolutely think it, if you haven’t already. If you truly believe the things you type and post here, you cannot be true to yourself any other way. Liberals are a threat to the very fabric of America in your worldview. Wishing to get rid of us by any means necessary is the natural progression. You will be that person someday soon, if you aren’t already. Guaranteed. And I mean guaran-fucking-teed! You can take that to the bank.

Oh, and conservatives don’t think – they do what they’re told by the higher-ups. Always. And forever. What will you do when they tell you to kill liberals? Think that can’t happen? What do you think Gordon would do? What do you think unstable urchins like notsoswift would do? Hmm? They’d lock and load! That’s what they’d do… and you’d be three steps behind them… because you’re too good an opportunist to stick your own neck out when the world is full of Gordon Bloyer’s to do it for you, eh? Give ya credit for that much, at least.

But sorry, no. You will wish death on liberals, probably sooner than later, as I said, if you haven’t already. It’s in the DNA of the people you support and agree with. It’s in your DNA, too. There is no such thing as a reasonable conservative anymore, the libertarians and reactionaries saw to that. So if you’re still on board with conservative America, you are that guy, whether you realize it now or not. But I think you know it and just like to pretend you have a conscience. But I ain’t buyin’ it. That ship sailed a long time ago.

QED.

Alz said:
Take Obama’s teleprompter away. You’ve been duped; Obama doesn’t seem that smart. He’s not a good leader either as he is so divisive.

He didn’t need a telepromter when he schooled the GOP at their own conference last year.

Russell Smith says:
“Here are the facts:

#4 Without his best friends tele amd prompter, B.O. would be just another run of the mill stumble bumb politician. Oh wait a minute, even with them he is still just a community organizer.”

I so love reading something as ironic as this. The President of the United States “is still just a community organizer” is stated as “the fact.” Holy cow, no wonder people can listen to the habitual lies of Glenn Beck and not understand that they are being routinely lied to. On the right, ideology trumps facts.

Glenn Beck falsely claims over and over that Van Jones is a communist, and you don’t see one of his supporters stand up and say, “No, that’s not true.” People believe what they want to believe which is why Fox has such high ratings and Beck has millions of gullible followers.

Ideology trumps facts; there is not better way of interpreting what Russel Smith claims. The question that research needs to answer is whether that is as true on the left as it is on the right. Honest seekers of truth are far and few in between.
http://www.alternet.org/story/149262/are_we_too_dumb_for_democracy_the_logic_behind_self-delusion?page=entire

Paul Westlake said:
Yes, they can. Blind, stupid and mean… all day, every day

Boy, somebody didn’t get that train set for Christmas.

@zombietimeshare, “Juan is mistaking arrogance for intellect. Besides, how hard can it be to read from a teleprompter?”

I am not a fan of Palin’s but I agree with you here. Frankly, I think both of them are lacking in the intellect department. They are just mere puppets for their particular parties. It is obvious that Obama is an affirmative action president and Palin is being used by the GOP because she is a woman. I like Juan, but I think sometimes he feels an obligation to support and defend Obama because he is black no matter what the truth is.

Gee i wonder if Obama whipped John MccAin in the debates while reading a teleprompter….all presidents read from a telepromter.. Clusterfuk Bush couldnt even do that…lolololol

Alz said:
Yes, very good, thanks! Plain would be a much better leader than Obama. Obama is so divisive. As you say, Plain LOVES the country, too. Obama doesn’t seem to like it here.

Qbama doesnt likie it here???? according to who.. YOU? the Shit Limbaugh Kool Aid drinker….lol

notsofast said:
Totally false!

Wow it took about 6 seconds to find the entire Q&A

mugatu said:
Wow it took about 6 seconds to find the entire Q&A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5vOMIN673A

What I get for typing while having lunch…

James Nelson:

Obimbo was elected because, he ran a sophomoric campaign that appealed to the (1) entitlement bottom-feeders looking for bigger hand-outs, (2) students of college age that were duped into thinking they’d get their educations paid for, (3) Blacks and Hispanics who actually thought he was one of them and would got to bat for them. Why they thought that is still a mystery? (4) People like you who should have known better but were lazy, and gullible enough to buy into his socialist agenda. Add to that an opposing Republican candidate who tried to run a decent, and moral campaign and it’s not hard to see why Obimbo got elected. Mr.McCain was not the best candidate to run against gutter-rats that were more than capable of twisting the truth.

Davo said:
Well, that reverse spin might impress other ignorant leftist dupes, but a simple read of the Constitution proves that America was founded as a “Right Wing Conspiracy.” In fact, the Constitution was written and adopted as our ‘law of the land’ for the SOLE purpose of protecting America from LIBERALISM. That’s why liberals must constantly pervert and misrepresent it in effort to ‘legitimize’ the illegitimate and ‘justify’ the unjustifiable.

Wow, I regret not being able to miss work to stay at this computer as long as this thread survives. Statements like Westlake’s are so typical of liberals, and therefore fun to prove a facade.

“Pillars of Truth and Logic are what’s left standing after the lies of liberalism crumble from around them.” – Davo

You didn’t prove anything, other than the fact that you’re a total fucking moron. Liberals founded America, conservatives were called Tories and they fought for the British. You’re an idiot on your best day and not a very good right-wing shill. Stay away from arguing history, it only reveals your lack of education.

SmartAlec said:
Boy, somebody didn’t get that train set for Christmas.

Boy you’d like to think it was my personal demons that lie at the root of my statements. I know how desperately you need that to be so. But it is the righties here that are certifiable. Trust me. Those of you not already in the funny farm are headed that way eventually. No wonder you guys love Reagan so much! He let you out!

HAHAHAHAHAHA

OK, family time. I may or may not stop by to beat up on you idiots again later. Don’t care really. ;-)

CAconservative said:
Obimbo was elected because, he ran a sophomoric campaign that appealed to the (1) entitlement bottom-feeders looking for bigger hand-outs, (2) students of college age that were duped into thinking they’d get their educations paid for, (3) Blacks and Hispanics who actually thought he was one of them and would got to bat for them. Why they thought that is still a mystery? (4) People like you who should have known better but were lazy, and gullible enough to buy into his socialist agenda.

Prove everything you just asserted. Prove it conclusively. I’ll be back tonight to check on your work. I expect scholarship on this one. Get to work. ;-)

Didn’t he, and doesn’t he openly lobby for “share the wealth”? In case your not aware, that’s an unfair entitlement! Didn’t Obimbo get Pell Grants, to the tune of $10,000 for moms returning back to school? In case your unaware, Pell Grants are free! That’s if you discount the fact that the taxpayers are paying for them. Isn’t he advocating an annual $4000 IRS deduction for college students. Do you believe it’s going to stop there? In case your unaware, that’s a handout, at our expense!!
Among Blacks, his approval rating has dropped from a high of 96% to 89%. Black radio shows are now voicing their discontent with Obimbo. Gallop poll numbers are now saying non-Black minorities are reaching the same proportion as that of Whites for Obimbo, which is around 39%.
All in all Mr.Westlake I’d say your man Obimbo is in way over his socialist head. Wouldn’t you? I think we’re looking at a one-term president.

As with most scumbag politicians, he’s not exactly truthful on many subjects, is he Mr.Westlake?

the-reasonable-lib:
Walked in where, and when, and schooled Republicans on what?

Paul Westlake said:
” fucking moron,” “idiot,” ” right-wing shill.”

Ahhh. There we have it………………..the extent of liberal “intellect.”

If you ever studied history, you probably find it distasteful to remember that Hitler and Nazi Germany were Socialists, believing that society should be manipulated by “central planning,” with the desires of the individual sacrificed for the “good” of the masses. Individuals, groups, and business were controlled by government that provided the “needs” to society that the “planners” saw fit to provide. “Liberals” were their enemies in believing that the central planners (government) should have no power over decisions of businesses, private property, or individual rights and freedoms. Lemme repeat………….”LIBERALS” believed in no manipulation over commerce or individual property (conservative).

The political struggle was between “Socialists” and “Liberals” from the middle of the nineteenth century until the end of WWII. When “Socialists” found themselves in an inconvenient position with the negative connotation given them by their association with Nazi socialism and the Soviet socialism, the “Socialists” did what they’ve been doing ever since……………projected a false image. By simply hi-jacking the term “Liberal” from the “conservatives,” socialists believed thay could continue their anti-American agenda under the disguise of claiming to promote freedom while working in every manner they could imagine to undermine it, just as they do today..

Taking a step back to view the overall history of LIBERAL/SOCIALISTS, one can easily see that they have always fought against freedom of choice, by claiming to support it. Individual freedom is the only true freedom there is, and the only freedom LIBERALS tolerate, is the “freedom” to act in as immoral a fashion as their imaginations can possibly direct them. No other individual choice is tolerated by Liberals.

I don’t need to prove anything, Westlake. As I said, the Constitution describes Conservativism better than I ever could. Liberty, private property, and individualism are conservative ideals guaranteed by the Constitution. Big government, massive manipulation through regulation, and the assault on private property rights are the stock in trade of socialist fascism, better known as modern “LIBERALISM.”

Simple math proves liberalism to be the antithesis of the Constitution and Conservatism.

You may now return to the profanity Liberals use in lieu of Truth and Logic.

Juan is certanly one of the smartest leftists on the air… That leaves him about 3 fishhooks short of a salmon when compared to Sarah Palin. I know a lot of people who consider themselves to be very smart; and who are considered very smart by quite a few other people. The problem come up when people confuse being smart with having the wisdom to make realistic decisions. Having a great idea is a long way from having a workable plan, Palin is more likely to have workable plans than Obama or any of his Czars.

Davo said:
Ahhh. There we have it………………..the extent of liberal “intellect.”

I’ve cleaned so many clocks around here it’s not even funny. I don’t have to show off my intellect. Basic observation skills are all that are required.

For instance…

Davo said:
If you ever studied history, you probably find it distasteful to remember that Hitler and Nazi Germany were Socialists, believing that society should be manipulated by “central planning,” with the desires of the individual sacrificed for the “good” of the masses.

You conflate the theory of communism (the good of the masses) with totalitarianism and fascism (central planning) to attach “liberalism” to the worst mass murderers in history and expect me to refrain from calling you a total fucking moron? Seriously, dude. The Nazis were fascists who merged the German industrial, military, political and cultural sectors into one totalitarian system with “socialism” in the name purely for propaganda purposes. Everyone who has ever studied the Nazis and Soviets will tell you that “socialist” was always a lie. It was used in both cases to co-opt the proletariat and rebuff any populist backlash to their totalitarianism. That people like you choose to believe Nazi and Soviet propaganda is no surprise to me whatsoever, since you already buy into the frighteningly similar propaganda employed by the extreme right today.

Davo said:
Taking a step back to view the overall history of LIBERAL/SOCIALISTS, one can easily see that they have always fought against freedom of choice, by claiming to support it. Individual freedom is the only true freedom there is, and the only freedom LIBERALS tolerate, is the “freedom” to act in as immoral a fashion as their imaginations can possibly direct them. No other individual choice is tolerated by Liberals.

And again, it’s funny that you feel free to assign the most base morality imaginable to me and my liberal friends while simultaneously whining about my use of language. What a fucking whiner you are. But it makes sense, since you have no facts to support you idiotic ideology. And if you think liberals have always fought against freedom of choice, perhaps you have an equally fallacious argument to demonstrate that the abolitionists and people like Martin Luther King were actually conservatives. No doubt you desperately want to claim the mantle of civil rights champion as you support people who want to bring back segregation. What better cover for your anti-civil rights positions than to claim your kind are actually the original champions. As good as that looks to you on paper, is as flat as it falls on those who know history prior to 1980. But good luck with that!

Davo said:
I don’t need to prove anything, Westlake.

Actually, you can’t prove anything, because everything you say is totally, 100% false. For instance…

Davo said:
As I said, the Constitution describes Conservativism better than I ever could. Liberty, private property, and individualism are conservative ideals guaranteed by the Constitution.

Where in the constitution is “individualism” found? Hmm? How does “we the people” translate to “individualism?” Where in the following tenets do you perceive “individualism:”

- a more perfect union
- establish justice
- ensure domestic tranquility
- provide for the common defense
- promote the general welfare
- secure the blessing of liberty to ourselves and our posterity

The very name of our country is socialist – The UNITED States of America (the confederate states chose a confederacy, because they were conservatives who didn’t like being united with anyone or anything – rugged individualists, you know, your people). The first amendment guarantees the right of free assembly, not free “individualism.” There is not one article, not one amendment, not one word in the entire constitution that suggests “individualism” of any kind. Period.

“United we stand, divided we fall” has been at the very core of the American ethos since our founding, for “we must all hang together, or surely we will all hang separately” were the words that were spoken long before the constitution was even drafted. The founders were wealthy merchants and educated elites, to be sure. But the power of the crown, an individual person, and the power of the corporate monopoly, an individual company benefiting a select few – mostly the crown, were the things they hated most. They thought they may have gone overboard so they added the Bill of Rights to ensure protections for individuals vis-a-vis the government. However, all those rights are collectively held and uniformly administered, by law and constitutional decree. So even the protection of individual rights is based on the commons. (They were able to leave large segments of society – blacks, women, renters – out of the original protections by redefining the word “person” within the constitution. The 14th amendment was even interpreted to not apply to women for constitutional purposes before being interpreted 100 years later so expansively as to include corporations and unions. In both cases, it was conservative courts doing the bidding of their corporate masters – you know, your kinda people.)

Davo said:
Simple math proves liberalism to be the antithesis of the Constitution and Conservatism.

Your “simple math” is simple alright, Simple Simon.

Davo said:
You may now return to the profanity Liberals use in lieu of Truth and Logic.

Nice use of “in lieu” but we don’t use profanity “in lieu” of truth and logic (which aren’t capitalized, just so you know), we use profanity “in addition” to truth and logic. I know the nuance is easily lost on you but see if you can work that one out. OK, dipshit? Oh, and if you’re looking profanity “in lieu” of truth and logic, check out your ideological and intellectual equals, notsoswift and Gordo the Magnificent. Have a nice night.

CAconservative said:
Didn’t he, and doesn’t he openly lobby for “share the wealth”? In case your not aware, that’s an unfair entitlement! Didn’t Obimbo get Pell Grants, to the tune of $10,000 for moms returning back to school? In case your unaware, Pell Grants are free! That’s if you discount the fact that the taxpayers are paying for them. Isn’t he advocating an annual $4000 IRS deduction for college students. Do you believe it’s going to stop there? In case your unaware, that’s a handout, at our expense!!

Those are investments, not handouts. Every piece of evidence has always shown that the return on education investment in long-term tax receipts is practically incalculable – thousands of dollars on the penny at a bare minimum. The same types of public investments are made in corporations in MUCH larger quantities in literally every single budget signed by every President since Eisenhower.

Score: F

CAconservative said:
Among Blacks, his approval rating has dropped from a high of 96% to 89%. Black radio shows are now voicing their discontent with Obimbo. Gallop poll numbers are now saying non-Black minorities are reaching the same proportion as that of Whites for Obimbo, which is around 39%.

Since when are polls proof of the worthiness of policy? If that was a measure, we wouldn’t be in Iraq right now. Dig it.

Score: F

CAconservative said:
All in all Mr.Westlake I’d say your man Obimbo is in way over his socialist head. Wouldn’t you?

No, but you sure are.

CAconservative said:
I think we’re looking at a one-term president.

Possibly, but not for any of the reasons you described. Post hoc ergo propter hoc? Not so much.

Pretty weak effort, all in all. To be expected of course, but as a former SoCal lad, I had high hopes for the left coast. Alas you disappoint. C’est la vie. Bon soir, ma petite merde.

CAconservative says:
“All in all Mr.Westlake I’d say your man Obimbo is in way over his socialist head.”

Actually, anyone who asserts that this pro-corporation President is a “socialist” is in way over their head just discussing politics. CAcon, stick with sports. NASCAR seems about right for you.

Anyone who shows the kind of disrespect for the office of the presidency as you do really exhibits that quality of a troll. That’s what your comments come across as. Not useful, not informed, not constructive, hell; not even conservative. You are a reactionary, angry troll.

There’s a better site for you to comment on: it’s called kkk.org or another one that’s a small step up: glennbeck.com. Other ignorant reactionaries comment there all the time.