Teleprompter fail.

So Obama and Bachmann get threads, but Ryan doesn’t!?

I don’t blame you libs, I’d be scared of him too!

Great job, future President Ryan!

From CNN: RT @SamFeistCNN Bachmann was looking into the Tea Party Express camera sted of the network pool camera. Fox News was pool.

Joe, they don’t really care, they just want to ridicule her.

While I didn’t like Ryan’s speech, he did display eloquence and a degree of class. Bachmann? Absolutely not!

Wow… if Erickson is correct, that’s a terrible job by her production team. Really astoundingly bad.

If it’s not that, however, it’s most likely that the prompter wasn’t attached to the camera, and was probably a free-standing one. Why they would have used that, is beyond me (unless the one attached to the camera broke).

Bad productions values, guys… not good.

And since we know what it looked like is MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than what was said, let’s focus on that…

Like in Spaceballs, the cameraguy was too afraid to tell her the battery in the camera she’s looking at has died

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
So Obama and Bachmann get threads, but Ryan doesn’t!?

I don’t blame you libs, I’d be scared of him too!

Great job, future President Ryan!

The worst part is that you actually believe that he will win. Read this; HE CANNOT WIN. He is too conservative, you have to be a moderate to become president just like the previous 43.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
So Obama and Bachmann get threads, but Ryan doesn’t!?

I don’t blame you libs, I’d be scared of him too!

Great job, future President Ryan!

Ryan didn’t say anything, and Bachmann was looking off camera because Chris Matthews has is stuck in her head that she looks hypnotized.

Thanks for reading your crystal ball for me UNreasonable lib!

I have a question:Why do we still care what Olbermann thinks?

He’s a far bigger fail than Bachmann looking at the wrong camera.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Thanks for reading your crystal ball for me UNreasonable lib!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Thanks for reading your crystal ball for me UNreasonable lib!

Thank my Uncle Hindsight, he wears real thick glasses. My aunt humility is interested in meeting you by the way.

dhg says:
January 25, 2011 at 11:36 pm dhg(Quote)
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I have a question:Why do we still care what Olbermann thinks?

He’s a far bigger fail than Bachmann looking at the wrong camera.

Yes, but mocking him doesn’t fit the template.

On CNN, Erick Erickson reported that Bachmann mistakenly focused on a camera recording the speech for the Tea Party Express, instead of the other camera capturing the speech live for the entire country.

The “entire country”? Heck, it was CNN. I assume it was carried around the world.

Though, I still like my tweet: “Michele Bachmann can’t speak without a teleprompter. Pass the word”.

“what’s she looking at?”

HAHAHHA This is all people will rememebr of her.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
future President Ryan!

So whats this? The drop out governer will be so hurt.

Well BOX of ROX, I never said Palin was my candidate to begin with. That’s just you assuming things again, that you have NO clue about.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
So Obama and Bachmann get threads, but Ryan doesn’t!?

I don’t blame you libs, I’d be scared of him too!

Great job, future President Ryan!

Our country is not ready for a fake conservative who looks like Eddie Munster. Ryan voted for TARP.

So instead of covering Obama’s SOTU, the talking point is that Bachmann looked off-camera? Uhhh hello, she was talking to an internet site. You should be thankful that you even got breathing space.

Libs are funny folks, but you can tell they’re mad about tonight’ performance. :)

OK, so I paused this stuff while I smoked a butt and poured a drink and I’m currently looking at Bachmann looking directly at the camera. When did the spewings of an MSLSD castoff become THE TRUTH?

Truth is, she stumbles a couple of times, but at least she didn’t get tossed off the air. And she’s employed!

Pablo, there just don’t want to have to talk about Obama’s epic fail or Ryan’s owning him.

Pablo said:
OK, so I paused this stuff while I smoked a butt and poured a drink and I’m currently looking at Bachmann looking directly at the camera. When did the spewings of an MSLSD castoff become THE TRUTH?

Truth is, she stumbles a couple of times, but at least she didn’t get tossed off the air. And she’s employed!

Bachmann did fine. Even Gergen on CNN thought so. Comcast will take over MSNBC soon enough so no worries. :)

Color Me Badd said:
Our country is not ready for a fake conservative who looks like Eddie Munster. Ryan voted for TARP.

I suspect Michele Bachmann looks better than yo Mama. And she’s got 28 kids.

ps, when I said “owning”, I just meant his speech was better. Don’t want to risk being called a racist AGAIN.

Does anyone really believe a word that crazy lady says? She might as well be hanging from the ceiling when she talks, she is bat crap crazy.

Color Me Badd said:
Our country is not ready for a fake conservative who looks like Eddie Munster. Ryan voted for TARP.

Wasn’t TARP a success?

Pablo, don’t you know someone told Color me Ignorant that she’s a dead ringer for Megyn Kelly!?

Sorry, hope you weren’t drinking and smoking, don’t want to make you choke on your laughter.

Rep. Ryan & Bachmann hit it out of the park ! They connected to the American by speaking to them , not lecturing. Yes the teleprompter gaff is unfortunate , but Ms. Bachmann nicely reinforced Ryan’s well done message .

murf said:
Rep. Ryan & Bachmann hit it out of the park ! They connected to the American by speaking to them , not lecturing. Yes the teleprompter gaff is unfortunate , but Ms. Bachmann nicely reinforced Ryan’s well done message .

Which just like Bachmann is a total bunch of crap! The pull their facts out of their butts.

Q: Why is @keitholbermann venting hole less than a week after getting fired? A few “teabaggers” too many for Comcast? http://tinyurl.com/4qhvctp BaBYE Now…back under the rock you go, Butch

@PoliticalPAW

Hey Linda, why don’t you look on the HC thread for the fact checking I posted regarding BO”s speech. It’s HIM that tells the whoppers. Warning, don’t look if you don’t want to be informned, which I’m guessing is the case with you.

Was this fvcking idiot reading from something?

HEY!! Over Here!!

Pablo said:
Ryan’s owning him.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
have NO clue

Haha This you not having a clue chickie babe.But keep the hope alive.

Nacho said:
Was this fvcking idiot reading from something?

Probably from the same space she got her ignorant comment about the Founding Fathers fighting to get rid of slavery.

Bill Hemmer tweeted:

“Bachman on CNN live … Prompter is off center … Not cool.”

I think Chris Matthews zombie remarks have gotten to her and shes been taking some public speech lessons.

Judging from this and her last “history” lesson speech. Her jazz fingers are just a little too out of control.

Over compensating Michele… She’s trying to pull a Beck. He’s an entertainer, you’re supposed to be a Congress Representative.

You think they would have asked Ron Paul do say a few words if they wanted to be taken seriously. This lady is a joke. Somebody should be fired for letting this mistake speak for the party.

WCinWI said:
Uhhh hello, she was talking to an internet site

Uhhh Hello,she was looking out her window hahahaha.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Haha This you not having a clue chickie babe.But keep the hope alive.

Please make sense in your posts. The rest of us kindly propose this idea. :)

To Mark Joyella and everyone else here who is dissing Michele because she didnt’ look staright into CNN’s cameras. If you see the replay on the Tea Party Express website:

http://www.teapartyexpress.org/stream/

You will see that she’s looking at THEIR camera.

Seriously, Joyella… cant’ you AT LEAST look into this crap before you post about it, trying to make Mrs. Bachmann look dumb? Day by day this site is revealing itself as the amateurish “news” site that it is.

Oh my god. This was hilarious. She just keeps making a joke out of herself.

WCinWI said:
make sense

Yes of course. I do realize how slow you are.Seeing nothing has no clue.Is that better old man?

What’s up with her make up? Maybe it’s the terrible lighting, but she looks awful. MICHELE, JUST PUT THE EYELINER DOWN AND NO ONE GETS HURT!

Aren’t they gonna give the Birthers a rebuttal too?

Where’s Orly Taitz?

Bachmann should have written it down on her hands.

gar said:
Wasn’t TARP a success?

Tee Hee.

MsUnderestimated said:
To Mark Joyella and everyone else here who is dissing Michele because she didnt’ look staright into CNN’s cameras. If you see the replay on the Tea Party Express website:

http://www.teapartyexpress.org/stream/

You will see that she’s looking at THEIR camera.

Seriously, Joyella… cant’ you AT LEAST look into this crap before you post about it, trying to make Mrs. Bachmann look dumb? Day by day this site is revealing itself as the amateurish “news” site that it is.

Little bit of advice for teabags running for president, if you have 2 cameras pointed at you, look in the camera that is being broadcast to the world via CNN not the one being broadcast to Holiday Inn conference rooms for the teabags.

An experiment:
When you read the comments criticizing Ms. Bachmann’s speech… count how many substantive arguments are made. How many points are disputed? How many of her ideas are discussed?

Then compare that with how many times the prompter issue is discussed… or how many times someone resorts to childish name calling.

So far… it looks like… 100% of the people who disliked her speech, did so for non-substantive reasons. So guys… why so superficial? What’s that about?

MsUnderestimated said:
To Mark Joyella and everyone else here who is dissing Michele because she didnt’ look staright into CNN’s cameras. If you see the replay on the Tea Party Express website:

http://www.teapartyexpress.org/stream/

You will see that she’s looking at THEIR camera.

Seriously, Joyella… cant’ you AT LEAST look into this crap before you post about it, trying to make Mrs. Bachmann look dumb? Day by day this site is revealing itself as the amateurish “news” site that it is.

You should let it be. She is getting off easy by people focusing on the camera thing.

You DO NOT want people to directly critique her SOTU response.

Bachmann’s speech was fine.

I find that if I stand behind my bookcase she is looking right at me.

And I found a quarter too!!!

Seeing 2012….

That’s a little contrived, your comment. Saying “owning” doesn’t mean shit unless you feel like you’re on the defense. Why are you defensive? Somebody on your side screwed up a little bit?

ImNotBlue said:
So guys… why so superficial? What’s that about?

Maybe we don’t take her seriously because she said Ben Franklin freed the slaves at Plymouth Rock.

The World’s finest healthcare??? Do these Teabaggin’ nut jobs think before they speak? Ah shoot, just answered me own question…ye-arrrg!

MsUnderestimated says:
January 26, 2011 at 12:13 am MsUnderestimated(Quote)
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To Mark Joyella and everyone else here who is dissing Michele because she didnt’ look staright into CNN’s cameras. If you see the replay on the Tea Party Express website:

http://www.teapartyexpress.org/stream/

You will see that she’s looking at THEIR camera.

Seriously, Joyella… cant’ you AT LEAST look into this crap before you post about it, trying to make Mrs. Bachmann look dumb? Day by day this site is revealing itself as the amateurish “news” site that it is.

You are looking really dumb, and that’s a fact.

She has more eye make-up on than all of Todd Palin’s hookers combined.

The face of the Tea Party, an ignorant, crazy lady who is totally ignorant of American history. The dumbing down of America. Our competitors worldwide are laughing.

she’s clearly looking at the camera for the tea party express feed which is a righteous snub of CNN i must say. but let’s be honest, the leftist radicals that watch CNN are not her target audience, so while CNN may claim they were snubbed, they were really just less important.

*ice burn*

ROCKSTEADY said:
Uhhh Hello,she was looking out her window hahahaha.

Uhhhhhh hello, you have one of the poorest grammar skills and you’re commenting on other’s grammar skills? Nice try.

noekk said:
She has more eye make-up on than all of Todd Palin’s hookers combined.

Seeing as Todd has no hookers, you’re correct.

Now what can we do about the makeup on your face?

RowdyHoward said:
The World’s finest healthcare??? Do these Teabaggin’ nut jobs think before they speak? Ah shoot, just answered me own question…ye-arrrg!

So the health care that was provided to Gabrielle Giffords was bad health care? Is that your supposition?

WCinWI said:
you’re commenting

Sorry Insecure old man but I was not commenting on anyones skills except Bachmann not being able to address the country on the right camara.She shows such leadership.

WCinWI said:
Todd has no hookers

How do you know Todd has no hookers?

WCinWI said:
So the health care that was provided to Gabrielle Giffords was bad health care? Is that your supposition?

Her health care was provided through government health care.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Sorry Insecure old man but I was not commenting on anyones skills except Bachmann not being able to address the country on the right camara.She shows such leadership.

How do you know Todd has no hookers?

Says the person that is commenting on someone that is looking at another camera. You’re not exactly bright.

Last I checked, I wasn’t a man. You might want to check the mirror for your own sexist tendencies.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Sorry Insecure old man but I was not commenting on anyones skills except Bachmann not being able to address the country on the right camara.She shows such leadership.

How do you know Todd has no hookers?

Alaska PD. You can apologize now.

the real john t said:
Her health care was provided through government health care.

Yes, and we should all be able to buy our own health insurance across state lines.

Darn that Bachmann!
She should have swiveled her head back and forth like she was watching a tennis match instead!

WCinWI said:
Yes, and we should all be able to buy our own health insurance across state lines.

The whole point of what was said flew right over your pointy little head.

Looks like Chris Matthews had it right!!!

BFD said:
Maybe we don’t take her seriously because she said Ben Franklin freed the slaves at Plymouth Rock.

Really? So I shouldn’t take Obama seriously because he believes there are 57 states? Is that how this game works?

the real john t said:
The whole point of what was said flew right over your pointy little head.

Where is your civility?

WCinWI said:
Where is your civility?

Where is your intelligence. That’s right, you have none.

Color Me Badd said:

Teleprompter fail.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGz0O2bmzks

DOH! I guess there Is a little Homer Simpson in Some of us. Or 50% of him…

God Bless YouTube! Still LOFL!

Per usual, the wingnut left/wingnut media will focus on something trivial (camera) as opposed to her actual speech. Is there a prerequisite that in order to be a lefty/journalist, your maturity had to have peaked at the age of 12?

the real john t said:
Her health care was provided through government health care.

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No, her health care was provided by the doctors and staff at the University Medical Center.

Her HEALTH INSURANCE was provided thru her employer, the US Government.

Big difference.

WCinWI said:
Yes, and we should all be able to buy our own health insurance across state lines.

BTW WC, do you think Gabrielle Gifford being a US Congresswoman and her husband being a Navy Captain and an Astronaut went across state lines to buy their health insurance?

Grammie said:
No, her health care was provided by the doctors and staff at the University Medical Center.
Her HEALTH INSURANCE was provided thru her employer, the US Government.

And you RWers just don’t get it do you? When a RWer spews we have the best health care system in the world, they’re talking about insurance. Because they want to deprive millions of people in this country of health care insurance.

WCinWI said:
Last I checked, I wasn’t a man.

Interesting.Your very insecure for a woman.I ‘m sorry you have such trouble understanding me.Your from Wisconsin so I understand.Its right up there with Utah.Both very progressive states.lol

the real john t said:
BTW WC, do you think Gabrielle Gifford being a US Congresswoman and her husband being a Navy Captain and an Astronaut went across state lines to buy their health insurance?

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FEHB, Federal Employee Health Benefits, are offered to all Federal employees no matter what state, territory or place of active duty.

Unlike the rest of us they are not limited to only plans taailored to conform to all the different state’s requirements.

They also have an annual Open Season, just like Medicare.

The Feds pick up a very generous amount of the premiums compared to the private sector.

So, yes, her coverage crosses state and national boundaries.

WCinWI said:
Alaska PD. You can apologize now.

Are you trying to be Palin?More interesting is why would you know that fact.

Heh, Bachman stared into the wrong camera…she’s brilliant at putting the brand out there…

At least she’s done, what a moron.

AH, JEEZ, seriously?…Mark Joyella latest @Mediaite propagandist http://bit.ly/eAg94G Is there any real Mediaite authors left?

BTW, why the hell did fired @keitholbermann open hole? http://tinyurl.com/4qhvctp @davidshuster http://tinyurl.com/4r5fzrg SEE YA! A few “teabaggers” too many for Comcast

@PoliticalPAW

Grammie said:
So, yes, her coverage crosses state and national boundaries.

Well hell, my health care covers me no matter what state I’m in. I don’t think you were paying attention to how this conversation was going before you jumped into it.

the real john t said:
When a RWer spews we have the best health care system in the world, they’re talking about insurance

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No, wrong again.

I say we have the best health care in the world b/c we are, and have been for many many years, the largest innovators in every aspect of medical care from drug development, to diagnostic techniques and equipment, to cutting edge procedures, to training. Additionally, our hospitals are the best equipped and the vast majority of us have easy access, even in rural areas.

That’s why we are the best and people who can afford come from all around the world when they are seriously ill.

Grammie said:
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No, her health care was provided by the doctors and staff at the University Medical Center.

Her HEALTH INSURANCE was provided thru her employer, the US Government.

Big difference.

No, along with the Arizona STATE University Medical Center, active duty government medical specialists were involved very shortly after the indecent. You don’t hear that repeated too often, do you?

Grammie said:
That’s why we are the best and people who can afford come from all around the world when they are seriously ill.

How come there’s a lot of Americans that go to other countries for cancer treatments and perscription drugs?

Nacho said:
No, along with the Arizona STATE University Medical Center, active duty government medical specialists were involved very shortly after the indecent. You don’t hear that repeated too often, do you?

Corection: Sorry, it wasn’t ASU. my mistake

the real john t said:
Well hell, my health care covers me no matter what state I’m in. I don’t think you were paying attention to how this conversation was going before you jumped into it.

Yes, I am.

Do you have a clue what “not able to buy health insurance across state lines even means?

Every state regulates the insurance industry and theuy all have certain minimal requirements of what a policy must cover. It also means that citizens must buy their insurance from an approved provider. That means each insurance company has to formulate plans that meet those requirements.

That means that some states, such as MASS, has only a handful of companies operating there b/c they have such a high amount of mandated coverage. That also means that premiums in Mass are about the highest in the country.

Facts, johnt, are facts. Your mantra doesn’t correspond to the facts.

I am really in amazement how RW’s suck up this stuff. Most progressive left types don’t watch FOX or go out of their way to listen to Beck, Palin, Limbaugh and Bachmann for the simple reason they are boring, they say little of interest and they’re totally predictable and basically, a waste of time. Imagine these people as leaders of our country. It’s like barbarians at the gate. The reason there are so many RW’s commenting all the time on Mediaite is that they are bored of the even lower grade, juvenile stuff you find on most of the RW websites. At least, you’re willing to ‘engage’ progressive/liberal people who I have to say, being one myself, have a better understanding of both American and world history and are, surprisingly less ideological. It use to be the other way around in the not so distant past. You guys are in some strange frame of mind. it’s a losing battle. We have no choice but to have ‘big’ but better government. It would be nice if you supposed reformers would join us in bringing real reform to our country.

They don’t go anywhere unless they believe in third-world quacks.

Nacho said:
You don’t hear that repeated too often, do you?

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Now that you mention it I do remember Dr Rhee, who himself served several tours in Afghanistan, mention that.

However, having consulting physicians who are Fed employees consulting on a case does not mean that her treatment came from an insurance plan or was a federal benefit.

I suspect you knew that.

the real john t said:
How come there’s a lot of Americans that go to other countries for cancer treatments and perscription drugs?

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Non responsive and irrelevant to why I think and why our health care is the best in the world.

Grammie said:
Non responsive and irrelevant to why I think and why our health care is the best in the world.

OH! So everyone is suppose to agree with your way of thinking? You can tell you’re a Dollarette.

the real john t said:
OH! So everyone is suppose to agree with your way of thinking? You can tell you’re a Dollarette.

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So, do you understand what “buy insurance across state lines” means now.

Second, the fact that some Americans are traveling to foreign countries b/c they can combine a trip and pay for a procedure for what it would cost here doesn’t change any facts and it certainly has nothing to do with the discussion, MY REASONS for thinking we have the best health care in the world.

Dittos for buying drugs mail order. Because some countries have artificially lower drug prices some Americans do buy offshore. That has no bearing on the health care we have here at home.

You’re picking nit shit from coffee grounds now.

What’s that? A dolarette?

WCinWI said:
So the health care that was provided to Gabrielle Giffords was bad health care? Is that your supposition?

Nope, not bad…but certainly not the “world’s finest”. Also, when I say health care, I’m not referring to the skill of the doctors. I’m referring to the cost. Don’t be so naive. But, she says it so casually, like it’s cheese..the worlds finest that is! Get it??

Grammie said:
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Non responsive and irrelevant to why I think and why our health care is the best in the world.

Could you enlighten us as to why?

Michael Charles said:
What’s that? A dolarette?

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I am a regular reader and commenter at a site, J$P.

The site owner uses the name Johnny Dollar, a character from a radio series. Little john t seems obsessed about not only the site but anyone who comments there. It is a regular subject of his comments here to me and a few others such as I’m Not Blue and Cecelia.

You can check J$P here:

http://johnnydollar.us/index.php

Grammie said:
Second, the fact that some Americans are traveling to foreign countries b/c they can combine a trip and pay for a procedure for what it would cost here doesn’t change any facts and it certainly has nothing to do with the discussion,

No the fact here is that people can get treatments in other countries that they can’t here. Then you go on to say it doesn’t have anything to do with the conversation. Aren’t you the one that brought up people from other countries come here for treatments? If you live in a state close to the Canadian border they have buses that take people up to get their drug presciption. Maybe you should look into that, you seem to be running low on your meds, you keep spinning shit and can’t comprehend what you read or wrote.

Gays like Keith Oversizebutt and Eric Deggans should just stfu. These extremely radical left wing wackos on PMSnbc and cnn (fired or still on the air for a bit longer) are so fixated with Michele and Sarah that I am afraid they will all end up jumping off the bridge if the two women are on the air again. Another crazie is that Mr. Madcow on PMSnbc at night. He was about to wet his pants over Michele being on the air. And Chrissy Tingles has been totally losing it lately the minute Michele or Sarah or the Tea Party are mentioned. I say to idiots like Mr. Madcow, Miss Chrissy Matthews and the alien from outer space, Keithy Oversizemouth just chill out and go back to holding each others hand so you don’t flip out while on the air.

RowdyHoward said:
Could you enlighten us as to why?

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I originally responded to an assertion/accusation that “all Right Wingers mean” when they say we have the world’s best health care:

“And you RWers just don’t get it do you? When a RWer spews we have the best health care system in the world, they’re talking about insurance. Because they want to deprive millions of people in this country of health care insurance.”

I concluded my listing of the areas I believe earn us that excellence by saying that people of means with a serious illness come here for treatment b/c it is the best.

The fact that some Americans use mail order thru Canada or go to Mexico to buy drugs is non responsive to the reasons I believe we have the best b/c I already knew that and it is not pertinent to the health care we have here.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Hey Linda, why don’t you look on the HC thread for the fact checking I posted regarding BO”s speech. It’s HIM that tells the whoppers. Warning, don’t look if you don’t want to be informned, which I’m guessing is the case with you.

Uninformed with propaganda? lol get real!! and get a brain!

Grammie said:
I originally responded to an assertion/accusation that “all Right Wingers mean” when they say we have the world’s best health care:

Well can you tell me why they only bring that up when health care insurance is brought up?

the real john t said:
Well can you tell me why they only bring that up when health care insurance is brought up?

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We bring it up then b/c we fear that this so called reform is, as BHO said previously, ultimately designed to move us to socialized medicine. Additionally, how often do you have conversations comparing the relative worth and desirability of a private (as much as we have now) health care system as opposed to a socialized system?

Private enterprise is what drives the engine of all the research and innovations that our country produces. We are, and have been, the world leader in this area for a very long time. Socialized systems are not nearly as conducive to research and innovation, ergo we lead the way.

You said:

“…”they’re talking about insurance. Because they want to deprive millions of people in this country of health care insurance.”.

Do you want to explain why you believe that?

Grammie said:
Do you want to explain why you believe that?

DUUUHHH! They’re trying to repeal the health care plan with no plan of their own. The only plan the Republicans have is to try and destroy Obama. Yeah, they really care about this country. I hope Boehner enjoys his 2yrs as speaker. Because that’s all it will be.

Did anybody bother to listen to what Bachmann said or is everyone just stuck on her appearing to look off-camera? Seems like everyone’s all concerned about the wrong thing.

By the way, if anyone cares, some of what she said made sense. Some of it, of course, was a little too over-the-top Tea-Partyish.

Grammie said:
ultimately designed to move us to socialized medicine.

BTW, You’re probably on Medicare aren’t you?

BFD said:
Maybe we don’t take her seriously because she said Ben Franklin freed the slaves at Plymouth Rock.

Seriously this from the guy who has the country’s leading imbecile as his avatar?

M Colins said:
Seriously this from the guy who has the country’s leading imbecile as his avatar?

No, he doesn’t have Bachmann as his avatar.

the real john t said:
DUUUHHH! They’re trying to repeal the health care plan with no plan of their own.

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DUUUHH, you caught us all out.

Not only do I want as many people as possible uninsured I also want them to die – naked in the street – in a snow storm – right outside the hospital door.

The Repubs do have an alternative plan. It is just a completely different approach to the problem and depends on market forces. Obamacare is guaranteed to fail due to the financial and actuarial flaws that are built in.

It will succeed at its true goal – SOCIALIZED MEDICINE in less then a decade.

You want that, I don’t.

Grammie said:
Not only do I want as many people as possible uninsured I also want them to die – naked in the street – in a snow storm – right outside the hospital door.

Hurray ! LOL

Grammie said:
The Repubs do have an alternative plan.

Then you should be able to tell me what it is.

the real john t said:
BTW, You’re probably on Medicare aren’t you?

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Have been for quite a few years.

Yes I know that Medicare is a form of socialized medicine. Yes I know that the premiums are very heavily subsidized. And did you know that Medicare Part A is obligatory. Did you know once I became eligible for Medicare my private insurance was no longer available.

Did you know that my husband and I were without insurance for about 5 years and went thru every asset, even those such as IRAs and 401Ks that we could have shielded. Did you know that my husband spent 10 days in the hospital including the CCU for 5 days and they didn’t even send us a bill? Did you know that not long after that I spent 3 i/2 months in a hospital with long ICU stays and 2 very major surgeries gratis the taxpayers of this great nation.

Now, what is it you want to know?

Grammie said:
Did you know once I became eligible for Medicare my private insurance was no longer available.

And you probably didn’t look for another private health care insurance because you liked that socialized insurance.

Hypocrite.

Sure,

Eliminate restrictions on state boundaries for insurance.

Tort reform.

Increased medical savings plans which the current admin is scaling back.

Less government regulation of the doctor/patient relationship.

Allowing small groups such as associations and small businesses to form associations that can purchase group insurance.

Use tax credits/subsidies to help low income people.

Grammie said:
Have been for quite a few years.

What are you, 80+ yrs old?

Grammie said:
Eliminate restrictions on state boundaries for insurance.

I see you didn’t give a link for that.

the real john t said:
And you probably didn’t look for another private health care insurance because you liked that socialized insurance.

Hypocrite.

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Once one is eligible for Medicare there are NO OPTIONS for a private policy except the supplemental policies, which I have. I wish I could have kept that policy. If my husband had not died he, as an employee, could have kept it but it would have operated just as the supplemental does.

Hey, I didn’t make the system but it’s all there is.

BTW, exactly why do you feel entitled to tell me what I think/thought, wanted/didn’t want?

Medicare is reasonably good but it is getting a bit harder to find providers with Obamacare. However, the private policies I’ve had were all better.

the real john t said:
I see you didn’t give a link for that.

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Sorry, but that one falls under common knowledge.

It is rare for a Repub speaking about health care reform to not mention it. Why do you think the other commenter brought it up, b/c it’s a deep dark secret.

I’ve been on Medicare for about 6 years.

Grammie said:
Hey, I didn’t make the system but it’s all there is.

Then why don’t you stop using Medicare and go to the ER and get that excellent health care you expect people to do when they can’t afford insurance?

the real john t said:
Then why don’t you stop using Medicare and go to the ER and get that excellent health care you expect people to do when they can’t afford insurance?

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You just made it official.

You are an insane creepy little worm.

All my love

Aunty Dolly Dollarite

Grammie said:
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You just made it official.

Yes I did make it official, you are nothing but a hypocrite.

bring on palin/bachmann 2012!!!!!

Stupidity you can believe in!

the real john t said:
Yes I did make it official, you are nothing but a hypocrite.

I found John T’s facebook page.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21384541832

Watch out grammie: You’re in John T’s world now. Nice ‘stache by the way, John.

And you know, If I had to guess your profession, I would figured you for an Orderly in a nursing home. Nailed it!

I think Mitchell from Minnesota is seeing herself as a Presidential material. ahh

NO story here. Very funny how all the mouth pieces for Obama are trying to make it one. LOL

I wonder what it was that Ms. Bachman had to say? I guess I’ll have to go elsewhere to learn about the substance of her speech – as for the style stuff — yup, that is what mediaite and the leftwing media loons focus on every day.

Style over substance; that is why the leftwing loves the big zero, the Big O, the empty suit, the manchild. He is all style, no substance.

Good job mediaiate covering focusing on the important stuff – just like keithy and his loony pals on the net and on msnbc.

Jeeze. Get a grip folks, get a life, grow up, make Dan proud of this board, not embarrassed by it,.

TfT said:
make Dan proud of this board, not embarrassed by it,.

You have absolutely no idea what this site is for, do you?

Hint…it’s not a political board.

RRKING glides in . Hi people ! I ‘ m here with my much anticipated review of Ms. Bachmann ‘ s speech . I can admit that even though she is a female , Ms . Bachmann is quite attractive , if you like the good looking hussy type . Armwood has always been one with a roving eye for a looker . Armando and I were dining last evening at our favorite fancy little bistro when I caught him glancing flirtatiously at our cute waiter . When the waiter took our trays , Army touched his hand and I took my tall glass of Mountain Dew and upended it on his head . He ‘s lucky I didn ‘t really make a scene ! …Oh , back to Ms . Bachmann . Well I suppose her make-up was adequate . I would have put her hair in a bun , as I usually do mine on big occasions . The only other change I would have had her make is to wear a simple strand of turquoise and cubic zirconia jewelry . I could have lent her some of mine .

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Joe, they don’t really care, they just want to ridicule her.

When she spreads the IRS army lie, she deserves ridicule!

Grammie said:
.DUUUHH, you caught us all out. Not only do I want as many people as possible uninsured I also want them to die – naked in the street – in a snow storm – right outside the hospital door. The Repubs do have an alternative plan. It is just a completely different approach to the problem and depends on market forces. Obamacare is guaranteed to fail due to the financial and actuarial flaws that are built in. It will succeed at its true goal – SOCIALIZED MEDICINE in less then a decade. You want that, I don’t.

Thanks for the specifics of what that alternative plan is…Oh, wait, there weren’t any!!!

Let’s see, Michele Bachmann, whose father received $250,000 in federal farm subsidies, who started a charter school using government funds, and then became a state and then national politician­, the woman who has lived the bulk of her entire life living off of government checks, this woman is going to lecture us all about the FREE ENTERPRISE­ system? Yeah right.

Well, teleprompters, the kind that feed from the camera angle, are expensive and maybe the tea party express didn’t own one.

Forgot t mention that Bachmann was a U.S. Treasury Department attorney in the US Federal Tax Court whose job it was to go after middle class tax cheats, like the kind that she’s aligned herself with in the Tea Party.

valkyrie101 said:
Well, teleprompters, the kind that feed from the camera angle, are expensive and maybe the tea party express didn’t own one.

No, she’s just used to pandering to the FAR RIGHT even when she’s giving a speech. If she looked straight into the camera people would have thought she was a centrist.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
So Obama and Bachmann get threads, but Ryan doesn’t!?

I don’t blame you libs, I’d be scared of him too!

Great job, future President Ryan!

Let’s admit it, Michelle-in-Utah, if Ryan had bent over and farted out the “Battle Hymn of the Republic” you would have downloaded it from You Tube and be frantically searching for a corresponding Glade scented candle. Critical thinking is as foreign to you as an Estonian count is to Beatrice, Nebraska. The Ryan speech was an immense disappointment. I was expecting so much more, and at one point I was shooting arrow prayers to help this guy out. The Republicans had obviously neutered him, and his policy strengths were masked behind a wooden, teleprompter directed delivery. I haven’t completely given up on Ryan, but this was a very, very weak performance.

Well I guess if you can’t refute her facts, logic and reasoning, then you have nothing left but to ridicule her because she wasn’t looking at the camera you want her to. LOL! How sad for you liberals! Can’t you see how pathetic you are? If you can’t beat the opposition with facts, logic and reason, attack them personally and try to smear their character. Call them names and insult them like a little child would! Liberals are so pathetic. Liberalism is truly the mindset of someone who is emotionally, mentally and rationally stunted.

Now, here is where instead of providing a sound rebuttal, you start calling me names!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
ps, when I said “owning”, I just meant his speech was better. Don’t want to risk being called a racist AGAIN.

I shouldn’t worry about that. Everyone pretty much knows it to be true by now.

Obama thinks trying to sneak in his death panels over Christmas won’t get noticed and the Eugenic Dems think Mickelle’s the dumb one. Obama thinks there’s 57 states. Can’t pronounce corpsman. Can’t spell Syracuse (Sycacuse). Appoints a Secretary of State that thinks little girls with flowers were actually showering her with machine gun fire in Bosnia. Thinks people that strangle dogs or electrocutes them and hangs them should have a President takes up for them while letting Robert Krentz and Brian Terry killed by illegals not even have a word mentioned about them. Hopes that he can get more people like the Philly black panthers to stop whites from voting.

Please Check out song called teapartiers I can’t hear you at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJfboOindCo

Here’s a verse

Doctors are retiring earlier but we’re getting 17000 new IRS
This is how Obama creates health care jobs I guess
For 234 years this country’s been God’s blessing.
Now he’s following Cloward and Piven’s to bankrupt the country I’m guessing
If Obamacare gives Grandma and Grandpa a scare
Think how when their rationed and die earlier we’ll save on healthcare

Hey guys if you fought at Iwo or the Chosen
when they stop giving your wife her meds and her last breath comes over her face
you’ll find comfort knowing Nancy’d gladly take her place.

A Kim Bo said:
No, she’s just used to pandering to the FAR RIGHT even when she’s giving a speech. If she looked straight into the camera people would have thought she was a centrist.

That was a good one. :-)

BFD said:
Aren’t they gonna give the Birthers a rebuttal too?

Where’s Orly Taitz?

I don’t know where she was last night. Perhaps, her wig didn’t make it back from the cleaners. I can only hope she is giving Bachmann speech and teleprompter lessons this morning.

jim bronson 990cc said:
When she spreads the IRS army lie, she deserves ridicule!

would this be the same IRS that she worked for when she was a U.S. Treasury Department attorney in the US Federal Tax Court where she represente­d the Internal Revenue Service. A job that she spent her time going after Middle Class tax cheats, the kind she all but encourages now that they’re called the Tea Party.

Nothing like a socialist complaining about socialism.

nogard said:
Well I guess if you can’t refute her facts, logic and reasoning, then you have nothing left but to ridicule her because she wasn’t looking at the camera you want her to. LOL! How sad for you liberals! Can’t you see how pathetic you are? If you can’t beat the opposition with facts, logic and reason, attack them personally and try to smear their character. Call them names and insult them like a little child would! Liberals are so pathetic. Liberalism is truly the mindset of someone who is emotionally, mentally and rationally stunted.

Now, here is where instead of providing a sound rebuttal, you start calling me names!

I will admit I have always found it difficult to refute pithy jingoistic ditties and Six Pack Patriot clichés. It’s easy to take a bone from a dog, but congealed gravy just doesn’t transport as well.

Joe Astroturf said:
Obama thinks trying to sneak in his death panels over Christmas won’t get noticed and the Eugenic Dems think Mickelle’s the dumb one. Obama thinks there’s 57 states. Can’t pronounce corpsman. Can’t spell Syracuse (Sycacuse). Appoints a Secretary of State that thinks little girls with flowers were actually showering her with machine gun fire in Bosnia. Thinks people that strangle dogs or electrocutes them and hangs them should have a President takes up for them while letting Robert Krentz and Brian Terry killed by illegals not even have a word mentioned about them. Hopes that he can get more people like the Philly black panthers to stop whites from voting.

Please Check out song called teapartiers I can’t hear you at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJfboOindCo

Here’s a verse

Doctors are retiring earlier but we’re getting 17000 new IRS
This is how Obama creates health care jobs I guess
For 234 years this country’s been God’s blessing.
Now he’s following Cloward and Piven’s to bankrupt the country I’m guessing
If Obamacare gives Grandma and Grandpa a scare
Think how when their rationed and die earlier we’ll save on healthcare

Hey guys if you fought at Iwo or the Chosen
when they stop giving your wife her meds and her last breath comes over her face
you’ll find comfort knowing Nancy’d gladly take her place.

You’ve been up all night, haven’t you? No one can be so paranoiac and loony when they first get out of bed. Death Panels? All the Marys in Heaven! Are there Black men hiding in the bushes outside your bedroom window?

Grammie said:
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No, wrong again.

I say we have the best health care in the world b/c we are, and have been for many many years, the largest innovators in every aspect of medical care from drug development, to diagnostic techniques and equipment, to cutting edge procedures, to training. Additionally, our hospitals are the best equipped and the vast majority of us have easy access, even in rural areas.

That’s why we are the best and people who can afford come from all around the world when they are seriously ill.

Actually, you haven’t looked at this very closely recently. Like so much else in America, we have ceded much ground since Raygun’s “Mourning in America” days. Drug development is far more advanced in Western Europe and there are a number of critical procedures offered in Europe not available here. Janet: It’s not 1985 anymore.

Grammie said:
Not only do I want as many people as possible uninsured I also want them to die – naked in the street – in a snow storm – right outside the hospital door.

We’ve all long thought that true. Thanks for the confirmation.

Gee Real Royal King, thanks!!! I appreciate you proving my point almost immediately!

ImNotBlue said:
An experiment:
When you read the comments criticizing Ms. Bachmann’s speech… count how many substantive arguments are made. How many points are disputed? How many of her ideas are discussed?

Then compare that with how many times the prompter issue is discussed… or how many times someone resorts to childish name calling.

So far… it looks like… 100% of the people who disliked her speech, did so for non-substantive reasons. So guys… why so superficial? What’s that about?

Neither Bachmann’s message nor her chart had any “telepromper” trouble. Anti-American Leftist’s however have trouble regarding results of Hussein Soetoro’s policies over the last 2 years in any way relevant. Disastrous results mean nothing to Liberals, as long as they get to stay in power, and there’s NOTHING more anti-American than that.

Here are a few suggestions Bachmann made for fixing our economy:

1. The President could stop the EPA from imposing a job-destroying cap-and-trade system.

2. The President could support a Balanced Budget Amendment.

3. The President could agree to an energy policy that increases American energy production and reduces our dependence on foreign oil.

4. The President could also turn back some of the 132 regulations put in place in the last two years, many of which will cost our economy $100 million or more.

5. The President should repeal ObamaCare and support free market solutions like medical malpractice reform and allow all Americans to buy any healthcare policy they like anywhere in the United States.

6. We need to start making things again in this country, and we can do that by reducing the tax and regulatory burdens on job creators. America will have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Look no further to see why jobs are moving overseas.

Now I realize Mediaite preferred to publish this article about meaningless drivel to distract attention away from Bachmann’s accurate observation of Hussein’s miserable failure to improve our economic situation. But Hussein’s ideas come only from the Liberal Instruction Manual, and therefore will join the 100% failure rate of all previous Liberal “solutions” for America’s problems.

Finish the job. Vote out the rest of the DemonCrits and their pet Reputtycans they mold into their own image. 2012 may well be the end.

nogard said:
Gee Real Royal King, thanks!!! I appreciate you proving my point almost immediately!

Do you think it possible Mad Michelle was actually looking at us but we simply couldn’t tell with all the eye make-up? You know how when you’re viewing the Mona Lisa at the Musée du Louvre and you walk about, but her eyes are always peering at you wherever you are? That was sort of the converse last night, wasn’t it? Wherever I went in the room, Mad Michelle’s stony glare seemed to be focused upon something else? Perhaps, the cameraman was holding up a a hand puppet to get her attention?

Actually, Nogard, I watched the entire frozen statue act, and I never heard a single specific. Perhaps, it would be helpful if you outlined the presentation, then we might be able to have a substantive conversation about it. As it is, we might have a more meaningful conversation about this week’s grocery shopping list. In other words, if there had been substance, I couldn’t find it.

The Real Royal King said:
I never heard a single specific. Perhaps, it would be helpful if you outlined the presentation, then we might be able to have a substantive conversation about it. As it is, we might have a more meaningful conversation about this week’s grocery shopping list. In other words, if there had been substance, I couldn’t find it.

No, you probably couldn’t. But it’s sitting right above your confession of blindness.

Ha Ha! More of the same?! You can’t help yourself can you? Respond to “Davo” above if you can. It’s a good post and will save me the trouble of rehashing it. Let’s hear your “substance”.

Bachmann’s speech was the abridged version of Ryan’s speech. It was the speech given for GOP supporters who can’t understand all those long words and who need visual aides to understand the GOP’s message. In other words, the vast majority of GOP supporters. Soon they’ll be moving on to how to tie their shoe.

Davo said:
6. We need to start making things again in this country, and we can do that by reducing the tax and regulatory burdens on job creators. America will have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Look no further to see why jobs are moving overseas.

Any person or business knows that when you are having trouble paying your bills, you need to cut spending as far as possible. But that is only half of the equation. The other half is increasing revenue, and the way a government does that is by taxing those who have accumulated all the money. Of course all the rich people, who are richer then ever, and the big corporations that made record profits, after tax, are spending millions to convince people like you that their taxes are too high. And you say they are moving their operations overseas. Yep, that is true. Why? To make even greater profits, ultimately at the expense of American workers. So ok, they move the jobs overseas and the government ends up footing the bill for unemployed American workers. Who needs to pay for that? Those rich people and corporations that are making a windfall profit by cutting American workers out of the equation. That’s obvious. This is not a game of monopoly.

A Kim Bo said:
Bachmann’s speech was the abridged version of Ryan’s speech. It was the speech given for GOP supporters who can’t understand all those long words and who need visual aides to understand the GOP’s message. In other words, the vast majority of GOP supporters. Soon they’ll be moving on to how to tie their shoe.

More proof of my post if any is needed! They simply can not help them selves! But, I guess it’s all they have!

Matthews was right she is a Balloonhead!

A Kim Bo said:
Bachmann’s speech was the abridged version of Ryan’s speech.

There are simply not enough right wing platitudes to go around.

Davo said:
Here are a few suggestions Bachmann made for fixing our economy:

1. The President could stop the EPA from imposing a job-destroying cap-and-trade system.

2. The President could support a Balanced Budget Amendment.

3. The President could agree to an energy policy that increases American energy production and reduces our dependence on foreign oil.

4. The President could also turn back some of the 132 regulations put in place in the last two years, many of which will cost our economy $100 million or more.

5. The President should repeal ObamaCare and support free market solutions like medical malpractice reform and allow all Americans to buy any healthcare policy they like anywhere in the United States.

6. We need to start making things again in this country, and we can do that by reducing the tax and regulatory burdens on job creators. America will have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Look no further to see why jobs are moving overseas.

Sorry but that’s not a list of what the GOP WANT TO DO to fix our economy, it’s a list of what the GOP DOESN”T WANT the Democrats to do. Again, where are the GOP specifics or do they have no new ideas whatsoever?

TrollJuice said:
Matthews was right she is a Balloonhead!

And another! Thank you for insightful comments trolljuice. Question, isn’t it embarrassing having to get your deepest thoughts and ideas from Mathews?

A Kim Bo said:
Sorry but that’s not a list of what the GOP WANT TO DO to fix our economy, it’s a list of what the GOP DOESN”T WANT the Democrats to do. Again, where are the GOP specifics or do they have no new ideas whatsoever?

It’s true! There is none so blind as he who WILL not see.

Davo said:
Neither Bachmann’s message nor her chart had any “telepromper” trouble. Anti-American Leftist’s however have trouble regarding results of Hussein Soetoro’s policies over the last 2 years in any way relevant. Disastrous results mean nothing to Liberals, as long as they get to stay in power, and there’s NOTHING more anti-American than that. Here are a few suggestions Bachmann made for fixing our economy: 1. The President could stop the EPA from imposing a job-destroying cap-and-trade system. 2. The President could support a Balanced Budget Amendment. 3. The President could agree to an energy policy that increases American energy production and reduces our dependence on foreign oil. 4. The President could also turn back some of the 132 regulations put in place in the last two years, many of which will cost our economy $100 million or more. 5. The President should repeal ObamaCare and support free market solutions like medical malpractice reform and allow all Americans to buy any healthcare policy they like anywhere in the United States. 6. We need to start making things again in this country, and we can do that by reducing the tax and regulatory burdens on job creators. America will have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Look no further to see why jobs are moving overseas. Now I realize Mediaite preferred to publish this article about meaningless drivel to distract attention away from Bachmann’s accurate observation of Hussein’s miserable failure to improve our economic situation. But Hussein’s ideas come only from the Liberal Instruction Manual, and therefore will join the 100% failure rate of all previous Liberal “solutions” for America’s problems. Finish the job. Vote out the rest of the DemonCrits and their pet Reputtycans they mold into their own image. 2012 may well be the end.

1. A proven falsehood.
2. A meaningless gesture.
3. A does not necessarily lead to B. This will not solve long-term problems.
4. When no one watches the chicken coop, it gets raided. Apparently you were asleep in the late 2000′s.
5. Malpractice reform has not lowered health care costs anywhere. It has forced more on to the rolls of public assistance.
6. If lower taxes leads to more jobs, than the unemployment rate should be the lowest in the nation’s history, as the largest of the Bush tax cuts went into effect last year.
Care to try again?
4.

Davo said:
. The President should repeal ObamaCare and support free market solutions like medical malpractice reform and allow all Americans to buy any healthcare policy they like anywhere in the United States.

I’m not sure anyone is opposed to these. We know from the decades long experience Texas has had with a strict form of tort control (known by many in Texas as the “Health Care Providers Medical Malpractice Enabling Act” that there has been no effect on delivery of or cost of medical care and services.

We also know that insurers may not be interested in selling insurance in some higher risk markets. There is no reason to believe that Kaiser Permanente, for example, has any desire to provide coverage in Florida or Texas.

Your proposals are not objectionable, they simply do very little to improve the delivery of health care services in any comprehensive manner. They are largely diversions.

Davo said:
. We need to start making things again in this country, and we can do that by reducing the tax and regulatory burdens on job creators. America will have the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Look no further to see why jobs are moving overseas.

Yet, there have been no significant tax increases since the Raygun and Poppy increases in the 80′s and early 90′s. That can’t explain a sudden exodus of manufacturing jobs. And, while we have a fairly high corporate tax rate, we supplement that with such a large variety of loopholes that many corporations, particularly the largest ones wholly escape taxation. The exodus of manufacturing jobs can be better explained by technology advances which have decreased the number of manhours required to produce certain products, by relocation subsidies, by a better skilled workforce due to government education and training subsidies. We ought to reform our tax code, to be sure, and reduce the rate, as our President wholly endorsed last night, whilst closing some of the loopholes. But, the approach has to be multi-pronged. We have to realize that producing steel in 2011 is not the same as it was in 1951, building a car in 2011 is not the same as it was in 1961. And, we have to equipm our workforce, through education and training to do just that.

I don’t see any particular opposition to your ideas anywhere. They are simply a bit quaint in light of today’s medical and commercial reality. I understand the angst. Raygun, Poppy, Clinton and W, particularly through Big Dick, hawked globalization as the solution to all our problems, in a Shamwow like fashion. But, they didn’t do the hard work to prepare our nation for it. Of course, we’re in a difficult spot. How could we not be?

nogard said:
More proof of my post if any is needed! They simply can not help them selves

Sorry but your leaders are ridiculous. I’m not going to have a woman who has literally lived off of government checks her entire adult life (whether it was her father’s $250,000 in farm subsidies, her work as US Attorney for the Treasury Department prosecuting Middle Class Americans on behalf of the IRS, running a charter school paid for on government funds, or as a state and national politician) lecture me or the rest of the country on the glories of the Free Enterprise system. If they were glorious, why didn’t she partake in any of them but instead relied on socialist money her entire life?

It’s almost as silly as supporting Palin, whose state received more fro the federal coffers per capita than any other other state in the union while having the second lowest tax rates in the whole country.

Sorry WELFARE QUEENS don’t get to tell the rest of us about fiscal responsibility.

nogard said:
And another! Thank you for insightful comments trolljuice. Question, isn’t it embarrassing having to get your deepest thoughts and ideas from Mathews?

Let me repeat: The onus is on you now to outline what it is of substance Mad Michelle said. You’ve done yeoman’s work bleating, kvetching, moaning and whining. Now. it’s time for you to educate us. What of substance did this woman offer?

Off to work I go libs. It’s been fun(ny)!

Mitchell from Minnesota wants to be President.

valkyrie101 said:
……….and the big corporations that made record profits, after tax, are spending millions to convince people like you that their taxes are too high. And you say they are moving their operations overseas. Yep, that is true. Why?

What corporation “pays” ANY tax on goods or services they sell? NONE. Taxes are like every other cost of doing business, and are reflected in the price businesses must charge for those goods or services…………………..meaning that YOU pay them. Businesses must flee to void the strangulation by regulation and financial rape attempts by Demons with the support of you Dims who are the suckers ultimately paying for that rape.

Now, I don’t expect you to grasp the reality here, Val. After all, you are a Liberal, and therefore have a black hole in your brain in the area that normal people process the relevance of results. But those results exist, whether you can process them or not.

Davo said:
No, you probably couldn’t. But it’s sitting right above your confession of blindness.

Then, tell me the substance. You’re not a bleater, kvetcher, moaner and whiner. I’ve searched for it. I can’t find it. I gather no one else can, either.

nogard said:
Off to work I go libs. It’s been fun(ny)!

So, you can’t offer us any substance in the speech? That makes me feel much better, because I sure missed it.

Have a good day.

nogard said:
It’s true! There is none so blind as he who WILL not see.

Sorry there’s nothing there but the same pro-corporate trickle down economics and deregulations that got us into this economic mess to begin with. Again ENUMERATE new ideas by the GOP, don’t simply make a list of the ideas of the Democrats that you reject. Or admit that you got nothing new up your sleeve but the same neocon dogma that failed us already.

Hey fake conservatives, maybe if you spent less time pandering to reactionaries like the Tea Party and spent more time developing new ideas since your old ones didn’t work, people might take you seriously.

Oh, and if you stop having welfare queens espouse the glories of a free enterprise system that they themselves have never partaken in, that would help your street cred, too.

The Real Royal King said:
Then, tell me the substance. You’re not a bleater, kvetcher, moaner and whiner. I’ve searched for it. I can’t find it. I gather no one else can, either.

They are right where I pointed them out to you. But again, you claim blindness after erroneously attributing Bachmann’s suggestions to me. Read the post. Bachmann provides 2 very clear charts and some suggestions for getting our economy in order by defending against Hussein Soretoro’s mission to destroy it.

But, there I go again forgetting that Liberal “black hole” I observed in Valkyrie’s “analysis.”

RowdyHoward said:
Nope, not bad…but certainly not the “world’s finest”. Also, when I say health care, I’m not referring to the skill of the doctors. I’m referring to the cost. Don’t be so naive.

Right because when you’re sick or injured, what you need is a bargain, not doctors, medicines or medical procedures!

A Kim Bo said:
Sorry WELFARE QUEENS don’t get to tell the rest of us about fiscal responsibility.

We’d better get Obama the hell out of the White House, then.

Well, how delusional was that? Sheesh… god bless America? How about god help America? Her selective memory recall and half truths had me yelling at the screen the whole time. Oh and she failed history class again. The battle of Iwo Jima was against all odds? Actually. the odds were stacked in the favor of American troops who had surrounded the island, cut off Japanese supply lines and were pretty much expected to kill or capture every Japanese soldier on the island eventually. Sure, it was at a tremendous cost, but the odds weren’t against us on Iwo Jima.

A Kim Bo said:
Sorry but that’s not a list of what the GOP WANT TO DO to fix our economy, it’s a list of what the GOP DOESN”T WANT the Democrats to do. Again, where are the GOP specifics or do they have no new ideas whatsoever?

Well, hi there, ‘left is right is left: Kimmie. How ya’ been?

Lemme go real slow for ya’…………..try and keep up. Paul Ryan gave the Republican response to Hussein Soetoro’s Democrat campaign speech last night. Michelle Bachmann heads-up the Tea Party Caucus, and her statements represent Tea Party Conservatism, not Demo-Publican elitism. The Soo- Nah-Mee of a defeat Liberals suffered in November is about the rise of Conservatism, not Republicanism…………and certainly not the anti-American Left. Got it?

Also, the only reason CNN carried her speech was because CNN is teaming up with the Tea Party Express in hosting a Republican presidential debate. Sort of hypocritical for CNN to do that when call out FOX for being a mouth piece for the right.

Davo said:
1. The President could stop the EPA from imposing a job-destroying cap-and-trade system.

2. The President could support a Balanced Budget Amendment.

3. The President could agree to an energy policy that increases American energy production and reduces our dependence on foreign oil.

4. The President could also turn back some of the 132 regulations put in place in the last two years, many of which will cost our economy $100 million or more.

Fine. That’s a fair criticism that I seemed to mix Mad Michelle’s points with yours.

As such, I have already pretty much destroyed nos. 5 and 6.

As to the others:

1. There is no indication that the EPA is imposing cap and trade. In point of fact it can’t.

2. A Balanced Budget Amendment? Please, come on. As meaningless as anything could be. There would have to be a national emergency exception, and we seem to be constantly in a national emergency. In any event, the nature of a Constitutional Amendment, even one which is only an empty gesture, would take a decade to enact.

3. Our President addressed energy very effectively last night. We are busy propping up an industry hoarding a diminishing asset, and some considerable cost to our environment as last summer showed us. Since 1952, we have been discussing alternate energy, and very little has be done about it. Is it inherently unrealistic that we as a nation support alternate energy sources with at least some of the same fervor by which we continue to drill increasingly more expensive and less productive wells? Wouldn’t one of the obvious budget-trimming tools we might use be to expect our current oil companies to bear a fair taxation burden. They pay precious little in taxes, and before I get a sermon about the amount of taxes charged per gallon of gasoline, let’s remember the oil companies don’t pay these taxes. The consumer does with every swipe of the debit card.

4. No one can respond to the regulation question, can he? What regulations? Safety? Environmental protection? National Security. Mad Michelle needs to detail these before we can anywhere.

And, what wasn’t mentioned? Alternate forms of taxation and revenue. A VAT in lieu of corporate taxes? Some form of minimum tax for corporations? Closing the tax loopholes which mean many of the largest corporations pay no taxes. Education and training for a new generation of American production?

Come on, Davo. You’re better than this. This speech was thinner than onion skin.

newsjunkie said:
Well, how delusional was that? Sheesh… god bless America? How about god help America? Her selective memory recall and half truths had me yelling at the screen the whole time. Oh and she failed history class again. The battle of Iwo Jima was against all odds? Actually. the odds were stacked in the favor of American troops who had surrounded the island, cut off Japanese supply lines and were pretty much expected to kill or capture every Japanese soldier on the island eventually. Sure, it was at a tremendous cost, but the odds weren’t against us on Iwo Jima.

Iwo Jima was, in fact, a ridiculous image on which to draw in the context of this speech. And, so exploitive.

the real john t said:
How come there’s a lot of Americans that go to other countries for cancer treatments and perscription drugs?

Other countries have affordable healthcare, a serious effort to reign in the cost of healthcare was not addressed when Obamacare was put together.

Diabetes type 2 for example:

Metabolic surgery in India for diabetes type 2 treatment comes as a godsend to medical tourists, especially those from America where the cost of healthcare is skyrocketing. This procedure helps people with uncontrolled sugar levels overcome the impending danger to vital organs such as eyes, heart, and kidney.
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The ileal transposition surgery cost in India is about 20% that of the US price. Combined with the high level of medical expertise available in India, it makes an unbeatable option for diabetes mellitus patients.

http://www.prlog.org/10541108-mtc-brings-affordable-new-procedure-for-diabetes-ii-surgery-in-india.html

Medical Tourism Corporation puts together the travel plans, hospitals, doctors, lodging, etc. for patients planning for their treatment abroad:

When you opt to have a medical procedure done in one of our network hospitals, you save anywhere between 40-80% of the cost that you would otherwise incur on the same procedure in the US or UK. For example, knee surgery in one of our network hospitals in India costs US $ 7,000 whereas in the US it will cost $48,000. Hip resurfacing at our overseas medical network location costs about US $8,000; in the US it would be $55,000 and about 20,000 pounds in the UK.

If you are under-insured or un-insured and cannot afford medical care in the US, these savings can mean a huge reprieve. It creates a big difference in the quality of your life where earlier you had to choose between living with the medical condition or getting it done in the US and face financial calamity.

But even if you are insured, medical tourism may still help you end up saving a lot of money and provide access to better service. This is in case you have high deductibles or limited insurance coverage.

http://www.medicaltourismco.com/

The Lantern of Truth said:
RRKING glides in . Hi people ! I ‘ m here with my much anticipated review of Ms. Bachmann ‘ s speech . I can admit that even though she is a female , Ms . Bachmann is quite attractive , if you like the good looking hussy type . Armwood has always been one with a roving eye for a looker . Armando and I were dining last evening at our favorite fancy little bistro when I caught him glancing flirtatiously at our cute waiter . When the waiter took our trays , Army touched his hand and I took my tall glass of Mountain Dew and upended it on his head . He ’s lucky I didn ‘t really make a scene ! …Oh , back to Ms . Bachmann . Well I suppose her make-up was adequate . I would have put her hair in a bun , as I usually do mine on big occasions . The only other change I would have had her make is to wear a simple strand of turquoise and cubic zirconia jewelry . I could have lent her some of mine .

RRKING updating . Wondrous news , people ! Armwood and I made up this morning and all is well . We often have these spats , but once again , he is my Little Monkeyface !

Well, this thread is about Bachmann’s response to Hussein’s “solutions” to problems created by……………..Hussein. Your points are enticing to try to respond to, but this thread will die before we can address them all. I’ll try to handle the 2 most egregious ones.

The Real Royal King said:
3. Our President addressed energy very effectively last night. We are busy propping up an industry hoarding a diminishing asset, and some considerable cost to our environment as last summer showed us.

“Diminishing asset” is an unprovable assumption used to justify depriving America of our resource in order to weaken a populace previously too strong to manipulate to the levels Leftist require. There is exactly ZERO proof to support concern for oil depletion. And the natural resolution to the disaster of last summer is self-evident. There was no meaningful “cost to our environment.” But even the manageable damage could have been avoided if Leftists hadn’t forced oil drilling to be only done at such unmanageable depths.

The Real Royal King said:
Closing the tax loopholes which mean many of the largest corporations pay no taxes.

You need to read the post I responded to Valkyrie with. Business pays NO TAX. Taxes are just an item on a P+L statement reflecting costs of doing business…………………costs that are reflected in the price YOU pay for goods and services.

The argument Demons use as you’ve stated it above is just fluff to tweak Dims into emotional (and financially suicidal) rage with. However, reality just keeps right on rolling along.

Gotta go to work now. Every day I work to pay taxes is one day my great-great grandchild will NOT have to work to pay for Hussein Soetoro’s financial malfeasance and recklessness.

Davo said:
Well, this thread is about Bachmann’s response to Hussein’s “solutions” to problems created by……………..Hussein. Your points are enticing to try to respond to, but this thread will die before we can address them all. I’ll try to handle the 2 most egregious ones.

“Diminishing asset” is an unprovable assumption used to justify depriving America of our resource in order to weaken a populace previously too strong to manipulate to the levels Leftist require. There is exactly ZERO proof to support concern for oil depletion. And the natural resolution to the disaster of last summer is self-evident. There was no meaningful “cost to our environment.” But even the manageable damage could have been avoided if Leftists hadn’t forced oil drilling to be only done at such unmanageable depths.

You need to read the post I responded to Valkyrie with. Business pays NO TAX. Taxes are just an item on a P+L statement reflecting costs of doing business…………………costs that are reflected in the price YOU pay for goods and services.

The argument Demons use as you’ve stated it above is just fluff to tweak Dims into emotional (and financially suicidal) rage with. However, reality just keeps right on rolling along.

Yet, for years, oil producers have received massive subsidies and welfare on the basis of the DEPLETION allowance theory.

You’re closer to being correct on business taxes, but even there you have to acknowledge that the pass through methodology only goes so far. When “Widgits ‘R Us” writes a check for US $1,000,000.00 to the IRS, and “We ‘R Widgets” claims a paper loss, what happens to competition and pricing? The notion has more to do with tax equity than tax rate. All you have really done is underscore the weakness in business income taxes. Frankly, I’m to the point I say chuck the income tax for businesses and individuals and institute the VAT. While it is regressive in nature, the largest corporations and wealthiest individuals are lavished with loopholes and credits. That makes the income tax regressive.

Davo said:
What corporation “pays” ANY tax on goods or services they sell? NONE.

Tariffs are such a tax. Increasing the cost of imported goods via a tariff does increase what the consumer must pay, and if the price is too high, the consumer will not buy. Instead, they may buy a cheaper product manufactured in the U.S. That is called fair competition. Your view is that goods manufactured cheaply, in countries without environmental regulation, and paying wages that would not be permitted in the U.S., should compete evenly with U.S. companies who provide jobs to U.S. citizens. As it is now, it makes no sense to manufacture in the U.S. because even at 8 dollars an hour that is more than twice what they have to pay in China. There must be a corporate penalty, that hits their bottom line, or they will have no motivation to provide jobs to U.S. citizens. I am not against developement of third world economies, but there needs to be a proper balance so as to not kill the golden goose which is the U.S. economy.

The Real Royal King said:
Yet, for years, oil producers have received massive subsidies and welfare on the basis of the DEPLETION allowance theory.

Soooooo, is there some reason I’ve led you to think I support government bailouts or other “welfare? That’s really a Liberal invention, not a Conservative one. Sorry, bemoan recognized but rejected on basis of origin.

The Real Royal King said:
You’re closer to being correct on business taxes, but even there you have to acknowledge that the pass through methodology only goes so far. When “Widgits ‘R Us” writes a check for US $1,000,000.00 to the IRS, and “We ‘R Widgets” claims a paper loss, what happens to competition and pricing?

No, dude. I’m 100% correct. No matter how a conglomerate slices it up, they provide goods or services that ALL expenses of doing business must be reflected in pricing. Competition only has an effect if government buddy’s-up the way Obama has with CERTAIN businesses who donate handily to his campaign. Otherwise, taxes are taxes, rent is rent, and payroll is payroll. Management makes the competitive difference

Open a business sometime. All the lies told to Dims will become glaringly obvious to you…………….and that includes the lies of “matching FICA and Medicare/Medicaid, as well as wage controls. “Punish the rich” is just a ploy against unsuspecting dimwits who end up paying the “punishment” bill.

Think of it this way, RRK. Truth and Logic are what’s left standing after the facade of Liberalism crumbles away.

Of course, another form of tarriff is simply giving healthy tax credits to those corporations that provide jobs to U.S. workers.

valkyrie101 said:
Of course, another form of tarriff is simply giving healthy tax credits to those corporations that provide jobs to U.S. workers.

But for that to work, there needs to be a healthy tax on imported goods.

valkyrie101 said:
Tariffs are such a tax. Increasing the cost of imported goods via a tariff does increase what the consumer must pay, and if the price is too high, the consumer will not buy. Instead, they may buy a cheaper product manufactured in the U.S. That is called fair competition.

No, that’s called “sticking it to the consumer” outlawing competition. Sheesh! Do the math, Val. You just described how government manipulation of the market reams the consumer in the A$$. I believe consumers deserve the best product our hard-earned money can buy, not the worst. Competition is the only thing that can provide the best deal. Manipulation only can limit or eliminate competition and can only have the reverse effect.

There I go with that “results” thing again……………..

Nice set of corrections here…

“Insisting that she was not upstaging the official GOP response to President Obama’s State of the Union, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) offered a combative and highly misleading speech of her own following the president’s address. In her “Tea Party Response,” Bachmann repeated a litany of false right-wing talking points about everything from the Recovery Act and job losses to the debt and “16,500 IRS agents.”

http://politicalcorrection.org/factcheck/201101250021

She kind of reminds me of the old theme song from the TV show Dragnet. Remember. Dumb……. dumb, dumb. Dumb…..dumb, dumb, dumb…….dumb.

Davo said:
No, that’s called “sticking it to the consumer” outlawing competition

Its not fair competition. One corporation chooses to move their manufacturing to Singapore. That helps Singapore, I have nothing against that (in proper balance). By moving their manufacturing to Singapore, U.S. corporations can manufacture very cheaply, and can therefore sell for less. We as consumers benefit from that. But that has the effect of closing American manufacturing because they can not compete with 2 dollar an hour foreign labor, and little regulation of pollution (which U.S. companies must pay because we value clean water and air). Essentially, you are good with the destruction of American manufacturing because you just love paying 9.99 for a toaster.

I do sort of feel bad for michele on this one… her production team dropped the ball by not telling her what camera to look at – And now that’s all anyone can talk about! I had trouble even finding out what her speech was really about, everyone is only talking about where she was looking!

I talk more about the tea party rebuttle and the STOU on my talk shows TPN Following and Watercooler on http://www.thepulsenetwork.com at 9 am EST and 12 EST or anytime on-demand – let me know your thoughts @maggierulli

Bachmann could have taken a lesson from the Robert Stephenson video. That psychotic glare is a real attention getter.

valkyrie101 said:
But that has the effect of closing American manufacturing because they can not compete with 2 dollar an hour foreign labor, and little regulation of pollution (which U.S. companies must pay because we value clean water and air).

Now, you are beginning to get it, although unintentionally I’m sure. Liberalism is the enemy of America, not the solution.

There’s no rational reason to limit American competition with useless regulations and wage controls that raise the cost of being in business when there are people here willing to accept pay currently forbidden by Liberals, and environmental concerns best controlled by litigation when damage can be proven rather than by knee-jerk reactions designed to provoke emotions instead of logic.

huntingtonboy said:
She kind of reminds me of the old theme song from the TV show Dragnet. Remember. Dumb……. dumb, dumb. Dumb…..dumb, dumb, dumb…….dumb.

This from some one that can’t figure out how to add a profile pic… :D

Davo said:
Now, you are beginning to get it, although unintentionally I’m sure. Liberalism is the enemy of America, not the solution. There’s no rational reason to limit American competition with useless regulations and wage controls that raise the cost of being in business when there are people here willing to accept pay currently forbidden by Liberals, and environmental concerns best controlled by litigation when damage can be proven rather than by knee-jerk reactions designed to provoke emotions instead of logic.

I was a conservative for 40 years. Indeed, Obama is the first democratic presidential candidate I ever voted for. Today’s onservatives are applying economic principles that worked great in a closed supply and demand economy, but in the case of a world economy, where the cost of living in China is less than a quarter of what it is in the U.S., your free trade principles skew an advantage to China which makes it nearly impossible for U.S. manufacturers to compete. Your way waters down the U.S. economy in favor of China’s. And what is the result? Decrease in the number of jobs in the U.S., and a trade deficit that is allowing China to literally buy our country.

Mark Joyella said:
On CNN, Erick Erickson reported that Bachmann mistakenly focused on a camera recording the speech for the Tea Party Express, instead of the other camera capturing the speech live for the entire country. Jeepers.

How typical of the hacks at CNN and Mediaite to say that Bachmann mistakenly focused on the Tea Party Express’ camera. Sorry, but you douchebags aren’t the center of the universe, much to your chagrin.

Tea Party Express INVITED Bachmann to give their response. So why the hell would she not focus on the live streaming camera for the Tea Party Express?

did she have contacts in or is that her natural eye color? it kind of freaked me out….village of the damned style.

Sounds to me like someone should have engineered that camera situation a little better…maybe a little closer together……on the other hand, why didn’t the Tea Party Express just share their feed with the rest of the media?

valkyrie101 said:
I was a conservative for 40 years. Indeed, Obama is the first democratic presidential candidate I ever voted for.

Wow……….you really picked a helluva radical extremist to start your new career as a Lib. But, no, Val, you were never a Conservative. Conservatives know that competition in the marketplace is capitalism, and capitalism is the best friend a consumer ever had. The problem is that you want to limit the freedom of the market yet bemoan the results of that limitation. Liberalism is a lie that convinces the weak that you can have it both ways. Not possible.

You already showed us your limitation in seeing the whole picture, and you’re fears have already been addressed in the post you provided as a quote. Read the d*#n thing.

Let’s use this simple example as a pattern for which you can lay most any concern you may have about the embodiment of freedom we call capitalism. Long ago, buggy whip makers had secure careers because horses provided the power needed for basic transportation. Later, the railroad reduced the need for “horse power” to local transportation needs. Still later, the automobile came along and made buggy whip makers completely obsolete.

Now, as a Liberal you would demand the government regulate automobiles out of existence so as to protect the jobs of buggy whip makers. As a Conservative, you would praise the new development in transportation, and encourage former buggy whip makers to adapt by making leather seats, steering wheel covers, or learning metal work, all promising a bigger and better career than the old and dying one.

Capitalism works, Val. You’ve just been brainwashed by the anti-American Left into giving in to your fears and relying on the ruling elite to protect you from those fears. Step out of the darkness of Liberalism and into the light of truth and logic. When human endeavors are limited, then human results are also limited.

Michele Bachman Gives Chris Matthews a History Lesson

http://bigjournalism.com/driehl/2011/01/25/michele-bachman-gives-chris-matthews-a-history-lesson/#more-162496

I kind of like that it was unpolished. Reminds you of the whole point of the tea party, real people engaged in politics. I didn’t watch the whole response, but figured she was looking at the wrong camera. Very silly error to make, looked like an obvious mistake.

I’m still not sure why it was on the news channels, seems like it should have been internet only.

I can really see the good in most people from what they say, In Michelle Bachmann here is what I seen in her speech following the State Of The Union Address; she seemed honest, sincere, dedicated and totally miss-guided and miss-formed but probably impressive to some Tea Party followers who like her personality.
Disregarding the content of what she said, mainly because she said nothing specific. When a person’s speech only generalizes a topic or statement, a Republican, Democrat or Independent or maybe even a Socialist or Communist could have said the same thing and everyone may have clapped. This kind of conversation that could be applied to everyone’s party is like Cheer Leader Material. It rallies the troops but only helps them hold tight to their past beliefs. They learn nothing. Too advance and prosper, we need to specific, and only then can we see the light and move forward with confidence.

She scares them like Sarah Palin and other women on the right, because these woman dont follow like sheep. they live in the liberal heads day and night…

The amount of time the liberals put into there hate and jealousy they could possibly better there own selves…
Instead of complaining on blogs of why they hate them… they could volunteer at the local soup kitchen. or the amount of time they are steaming of jealously of these conservative women, They could look for a job instead of living off government entitlements..

Bachmann spoke to truth…Obama did what he does best – LIED!

The carnival barker LIES about virtually everything.

Want proof? – He stated the very SAME reasons to get the first “Stimulus” that he gave last night!
YOU LIE BARRY…and more & more of the country is getting to know it!

WHERE’S THE MEDIA TO CALL HIM ON THIS????????????????

@Davo: Capitalism works…I’ll agree there. But it seems to only work really well for the CAPITALIST…not the people who work for him/her. But there are some great exceptions: look at Google…they treat their employees better than most companies do.

I’m not saying that employers MUST do anything short of what the law says they can or can’t do, but

successful companies like Google are great examples of how happy employees…employees who love where they work…are likely to be more productive.

(sorry, got hasty)

I think the camera men did this on purpose. I think they put the teleprompter in front of Michele Bachmann and probably also a camera with the red light on , then she read from the teleprompter looking into the camera in front of her, while they filmed her from the left side with the second camera, rather than straight on. Now either it was the camera crew that did the dastardly deed, or the person in the control room, called for the second (side) camera to be on continuously.

Someone deliberately set out to make her look unprofessional and weird.

And I believe, if she is the legitimate spokesperson for the Tea Party, then she has every right to comment on Obama’s boring speech…

bealzebubba said:
Capitalism works…I’ll agree there. But it seems to only work really well for the CAPITALIST…not the people who work for him/her.

So….there’s no upside to being employed a private enterprise? No paychecks, no benefits, no training, no retirement plans, no health benefits, no paid vacations, no pay raises, no promotions?

I had to watch it again, I thought she was going to tell us was what a great investment gold is at the end of it and where we could buy some.

Even a cold blooded mongoloid like Bachmann can’t look at us in the eye while she lies and lies and lies and lies and lies.

Wow, this is the most amazing story I’ve seen in years!

Keith Olbermann: “Why isn’t Rep. Bachmann LOOKING AT THE DAMNED CAMERA?”

You go, girl! We haven’t a clue what radical dissertations accompany Obama’s college records, or even if he’s a citizen, but we _demand_ that Bachmann look at the damned camara!!

This is the problem with dim wits in the media. This is why booty kissers like Chris Mathews go limp over Obama. Substance is ignored, while appearance and style are all important. Obama can’t say boo without a prompter telling him….he is boring and pathologically dishonest. Do you really want to freeze spending after he raised it 84% over the last two years? Great idea if you’re a union boss or an ACORN thug. Young adults will be paying for Obama’s power grabs their whole lives.

bealzebubba said:
@Davo: Capitalism works…I’ll agree there. But it seems to only work really well for the CAPITALIST…not the people who work for him/her. But there are some great exceptions: look at Google…they treat their employees better than most companies do.

I’m not saying that employers MUST do anything short of what the law says they can or can’t do, but

You don’t seem to realize that everyone who wants to support themselves is a capitalist. But your statement that it works is 100% correct.

lane said:
I kind of like that it was unpolished. Reminds you of the whole point of the tea party, real people engaged in politics. I didn’t watch the whole response, but figured she was looking at the wrong camera. Very silly error to make, looked like an obvious mistake. I’m still not sure why it was on the news channels, seems like it should have been internet only.

It was on the news channels because they want to make Michele Bachmann an issue, Palin wasn’t available.

Maybe she didn’t have all the bells and whistles that go along with the SOTU address and she focused on the tea party camera, you know the people she promised to address. Her address to the tea party wasn’t any worse than Obama’s SOTU.

Watching that last night was like watching paint dry only to find out it was the wrong hue. His speech was flat and uninspiring…if it was anyone’s responsibility to inspire and inform in dire times it was his and he failed.

Geez, Mark, not even one sentence on the content of the speech. Doesn’t that seem, I don’t know, a bit strange. CNN covered the Tea Party SOTU response, that to me is an interesting story. Or is this the point, to attack the optics and ignore the importance of the Tea Party impact on American politics….

I just read a commentary on this site describing Rachel Maddox as objecting to Michele Bachmann giving the Tea Party response. Ms. Maddox has always appeared to me to be cheerful and with a personality plus ingredient to her presentation. I don’t think she understands that her name, Rachel Maddox is not on Michele Bachmann’s pay check and as far as I know Rachel is not the CEO of CNN. If as and when she attains these achievements she can load the airwaves with screamers who want Fox News off the air. This is the same type of objection. Nothing like that will ever happen in America but TV stations are susceptible in rogue nations.

Fortunately only 27 people aged 25-54 saw it.

Pablo said:
So….there’s no upside to being employed a private enterprise? No paychecks, no benefits, no training, no retirement plans, no health benefits, no paid vacations, no pay raises, no promotions?

No there’s plenty of upside to that. I’m just saying that the person that really wins in capitalism is the capitalist. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong…it is what it is. I used Google as an example of how a capitalist who makes a shit-ton of money still takes care of the people who make the machine work. Productive employees make the machine work better….happy employees are more productive. Pretty simple. It just not widespread. Then again, I’m not versed labor laws from state to state

Pablo said:
So….there’s no upside to being employed a private enterprise? No paychecks, no benefits, no training, no retirement plans, no health benefits, no paid vacations, no pay raises, no promotions?

Thank you Unions!

Falcon11 said:
Fortunately only 27 people aged 25-54 saw it.

Sad as it is, this is how many liberals think. Rather than defend their position on their merit, they would prefer that people simply not hear another opinion.

Why is this still being discussed? Apparently there was a separate camera for the Tea Party streaming broadcast and she was looking directly into it.

M Colins wins the thread

TerryDo said:
I think the camera men did this on purpose. Someone deliberately set out to make her look unprofessional and weird.

That daffy broad dosen’t need any help in that department!

bealzebubba said:
I’m just saying that the person that really wins in capitalism is the capitalist.

And if things go bad, the capitalist is the person that really loses. Employees simply move to another capitalist who might win and might lose. So what’s your beef?

Not that Bachmann’s latest, spectacular display of absolutely medieval, pre-literate ignorance will matter in the slightest: among the Pig People, Rightward-facing paranoid raving idiocy is considered to be a sign of special grace.

Like a splinter of the True Cross.

Or a picture of dinosaur-riding Baby Jebus galloping into Philadelphia to help Superman and Thomas Jefferson write the Star-Spangled Banner.

beamangrow said:
Not that Bachmann’s latest, spectacular display of absolutely medieval, pre-literate ignorance will matter in the slightest: among the Pig People, Rightward-facing paranoid raving idiocy is considered to be a sign of special grace. Like a splinter of the True Cross. Or a picture of dinosaur-riding Baby Jebus galloping into Philadelphia to help Superman and Thomas Jefferson write the Star-Spangled Banner.

Egad…shining example here, now we just have to figure out…of what, can’t be good.

There are total buffoons…and then there is Michelle Bachmann.

Rio said:
Egad…shining example here, now we just have to figure out…of what, can’t be good.

Rule # 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

By doing this the radical attempts to marginalize key figures in the opposition by isolating these figures and making them unpalatable, thereby seperating leadership from the conservative base. This either wins converts or at least neutralizes the ability to mobilize around a countering viewpoint.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Rule # 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

By doing this the radical attempts to marginalize key figures in the opposition by isolating these figures and making them unpalatable, thereby seperating leadership from the conservative base. This either wins converts or at least neutralizes the ability to mobilize around a countering viewpoint.

Sounds like something Glen Beck might do.

SarahP. said:
There are total buffoons…and then there is Michelle Bachmann.

We absolutely have to add you to the “total buffoons” list. Ah, thanks for playing.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Rule # 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame. By doing this the radical attempts to marginalize key figures in the opposition by isolating these figures and making them unpalatable, thereby seperating leadership from the conservative base. This either wins converts or at least neutralizes the ability to mobilize around a countering viewpoint.

I understand what they are doing, the above commenter just isn’t very good at it. Judging from it’s past postings, I suspect he may have borrowed his commentary from…someone, somewhere else. Who knows.

SarahP. said:
Ewe ar wecum rio, jebus, ewe ar 1 klever fela.

I’m not a “fela” and what’s with the illiterate gibberish? Deperately trying to improve your image?

Guess who’s coming to dinner. Why BHO, of course. He gave a second response to GWB’s 2008 SOTU after Sebilius gave the official Dem response. He closed with this ironic wish:

“Each year, as we watch the State of the Union, we see half the chamber rise to applaud the President and half the chamber stay in their seats. We see half the country tune in to watch, but know that much of the country has stopped even listening. Imagine if next year was different. Imagine if next year, the entire nation had a president they could believe in. A president who rallied all Americans around a common purpose. That’s the kind of President we need in this country. And with your help in the coming days and weeks, that’s the kind of President I will be.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/28/obama-response-to-bushs-s_n_83732.ht

Now what were all the Libs here saying about how inappeopriate it was for Bachman to do so.

Rio said:
I’m not a “fela” and what’s with the illiterate gibberish? Deperately trying to improve your image?

I’ve never seen SarahP say anything remotely intelligent. Seriously, I’m not joking. Just ignore him.

Eric Deggans thinking one thing: SNL. “I cannot wait to see what SNL dies with slightly creepy Michelle Bachmann response to #SOTU

He ripped that off of Jeremy Scahill

She made a fool out of herself. I almost pitied this nimrod.

Mr.Papshmer said:
I’ve never seen SarahP say anything remotely intelligent. Seriously, I’m not joking. Just ignore him.

Your advice is well taken, been scanning the posts on this site for a few weeks off and on before I decided to post, it really is not like the other places I’ve posted at for years.

What drew me in are the hilarious posts from a few of the regulars here, so unique, clever, fun, what are they going to come up with next, they don’t disappoint. Even if I never post again I will still peek in, what a gift, thanks.

Rio said:
Your advice is well taken, been scanning the posts on this site for a few weeks off and on before I decided to post, it really is not like the other places I’ve posted at for years.

What drew me in are the hilarious posts from a few of the regulars here, so unique, clever, fun, what are they going to come up with next, they don’t disappoint. Even if I never post again I will still peek in, what a gift, thanks.

You are a Mr. Papshmer sycophant. (basically a suck up). And a moron is not the person you want to “suck-up” to. The choice is yours – make it well my moronic friend.

In Your Face Radio said:
She made a fool out of herself. I almost pitied this nimrod.

Yet she looked like a genius to her “followers”, I would tend to believe. Now that’s scary.

This woman has crazy eyes. I think the mother ship left her, though I don’t blame them.

America is about a 50/50 split republican democrat. The way Obama is going, he’s done for in 2012. the only question is which republican will beat him? Donald Trump is hinting he may give it a shot, good a man who KNOWS how business works! Mike Huckabee; good a God-fearing man! If Mike Huckabee becomes our boss, we can trust him because he is aware his Boss will be watching him! Sarah Palin? Her political career is proving TOUGHER to kill than Jason Voorhees! The NON STOP ATTACKS she has endured and yet she STILL seems so cool, like Tom Brady operating the 2 minute drill despite a VICIOUS pass rush! Sarah Palin has a TOUGHNESS and only FOOLS count out tough people!

motleyb said:
America is about a 50/50 split republican democrat. The way Obama is going, he’s done for in 2012. the only question is which republican will beat him? Donald Trump is hinting he may give it a shot, good a man who KNOWS how business works! Mike Huckabee; good a God-fearing man! If Mike Huckabee becomes our boss, we can trust him because he is aware his Boss will be watching him! Sarah Palin? Her political career is proving TOUGHER to kill than Jason Voorhees! The NON STOP ATTACKS she has endured and yet she STILL seems so cool, like Tom Brady operating the 2 minute drill despite a VICIOUS pass rush! Sarah Palin has a TOUGHNESS and only FOOLS count out tough people!

That was very passionate. I applaud your faith and blind trust. I have to say though, it’s her “toughness” makes her the fool in the eyes of young Americans like myseld. We are the ones who WILL inherit your generations mistakes (I have a sense you are older, possibly retired…and although I respect your faith and trust in these conservative befiefs, you will be the downfall of this nation. Don’t destroy our future by preventing it.

Pablo said:
Right because when you’re sick or injured, what you need is a bargain, not doctors, medicines or medical procedures!

Still doesn’t change my point…you’re dreaming if you believe that our pride filled nation has the best health care. Someday maybe…but we have a long way to travel before then.

Maturity was required to come to the conclusion that her off camera focus was not substantive. No one needed the speculation,commentary and the eventual explanation, but that’s what you get from snipers.

AH, ANOTHER SICKO: Mark Joyella!

esd2000 said:
Yet she looked like a genius to her “followers”, I would tend to believe. Now that’s scary.

Where of where do hominids like live? Please tell us so that decent people can avoid it.

I am always amazed and dismayed by how many of my fellow countrymen think Palin, Bachmann and Beck
are sane.

Michelle Bachmann is a featherbrained, foolish, frivolous fraud.

She appears to be in a contest with Palin on who can be the most imbecilic, inane, indiscreet, insensate, irrelevant, laughable, loser.

SarahP. says:
January 26, 2011 at 7:57 pm SarahP.(Quote)

>…….blah blah blah blah blah SNIP!<

Sarah. Dude. You swine. You vulgar little maggot. What is that tripe you call your opinions? What is that scrofulous little tumor you call a brain? Don't you know that you are pathetic? You worthless bag of donkey doo, you wad of pus. You're a canker. A sore that won't go away. You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless plop deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon. I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention, you smell? You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You're grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. I have excreted better things than you. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile.You are a disease. On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends to character. You have the personality of a fart. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. You are a fiend and a coward and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away.

There, I feel much better now! Have a nice day! :)

fransway said:
Michelle Bachmann is a featherbrained, foolish, frivolous fraud.

She appears to be in a contest with Palin on who can be the most imbecilic, inane, indiscreet, insensate, irrelevant, laughable, loser.

Sarah Palin has showed the tea party that crime pays. Good thing that unshaven dullard Joe Miller and the witch from DE were defeated, or Sarah Palin would have opened the gates for the barbarians.