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Sean Hannity And Juan Williams Engage In Shouting Match Over Debt Crisis Agreement

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Cable news outlets brought out A-list talent yesterday to cover breaking news on the debt crisis, which worked out well since a last minute agreement led to some spirited discourse over the reported compromise between President Obama and congressional GOP. And no debate was more spirited than that on Fox News between conservative host Sean Hannity and left of center analyst Juan Williams,who discussed the agreement in a uniquely heated, fair, balanced and entertaining way.

Hannity introduced the segment by proclaiming that “liberals are furious with this deal” before asking if Williams was also upset. Williams concurred that in his esteem, this was not a good deal in terms of the direction the country should be going in. Then things sort of went haywire from there, in a mostly familiar discussion over the legacy of George W. Bush administration, Obama’s discretionary spending, and the effect of Bush’s tax cuts on federal revenue.

But while the debate hit many of the same talking points familiar to anyone who has watched opinion media in the last year, Williams gave just as good as he got, in pointing out to the host that much of Obama’s stimulus spending was on tax breaks. Following is a rough transcript of the heart of the back and forth:

Williams: You hate the stimulus spending. usually that contributed under the spineless Obama. what i am saying to you is 40 percent of the stimulus spending was on tax breaks for people.

Hannity: That was Obama’s bill passed without a single republican vote. unemployment is still 9.2 percent he promised it would prevent a calamity and catastrophe. this summer is worse than last summer.

Williams: In other words you have great ideas. in other words President Obama tried to spend some money cut taxes with everybody in the country. 40 percent of the stimulus spending all you can do is say well it didn’t exactly work as he predicted as opposed to saying he tried something (cross-talk) what Republicans are doing all along.

Hannity: here’s what i am saying to you Juan. this is important. this is why I admire the Tea Party conservatives. Instead of 10 trillion in new debt in ten years it will only be 7 trillion in new debt. every year they spend more money. like the Tea Party conservatives are saying free spending right now at this year’s level let’s cut one percent a year. One percent a year every year for six years, we won’t burden our kids with another 8 trillion in debt ore 10 years. This is compromised and when does standing on principal and balanced budgets become such a crime you have to be called a hobbit and a draconian cutter that is throwing grandma over the cliff.

Williams: You know what’s interesting about this to me? I am sensing Sean is not even arguing with me he’s arguing with himself. You are accustomed to representing conservative points of view, here you have such a fracture among conservatives those saying they are a hobbit in the tea party hurting the party’s chances in 2012, putting him in a position to say the republicans damaged the economy. It is hurting you and you don’t want to deal with it.

And so it went…the exchange became heated at times, but never disrespectful, and provides a nice thumbnail for the what we can expect to hear in the next several weeks and months leading up to the “super committee” report due next November as part of this agreed upon compromise.

Watch the back and forth below, courtesy of Fox News:

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  • Anonymous

    Sean Hannity is another typical hack on Fox News of the world.

  • SNAPTIE

    Left or right,i didn’t hear one bomb throwing character assassination.

  • SNAPTIE

    Left or right,i didn’t hear one bomb throwing character assassination.

  • Anonymous

    That was one of the worst debates I ever heard.
    Both sides were spouting the standard talking points that we have heard for years, with liberal use of slanted numbers by Sean.
    I mean really, “socialism”?  Are you f*cking kidding me?  So boring and predictable.
    Standard Fox debate, two people shouting talking points at each other.

    For an intelligent discussion on what happened this week watch the heated exchange between Joe Scarborough and John Heilemann at the beginning of Morning Joe today..

  • Anonymous

    Why didn’t Juan call him a racist teabagging dupe for corporate interests who wants to destroy Obama’s historic Presidency? Oh, right. This isn’t MSNBC.

  • Anonymous

    That’s nice. Did you get your cookie yet?

  • Anonymous

    More jobs shipped overseas this year, thank goodness for the Bush Tax Cuts. Brave move Obama.

  • Anonymous

    I have a low voice, I’d have to change my way of speaking to compete/work with these people. 

  • Anonymous

    I have a low voice, I’d have to change my way of speaking to compete/work with these people. 

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Odd you should say that.

    I had MSNBC or CNN on at various times through the weekend, and I never heard that nor anything like that. Not even once. Did you have any specific incident(s) in mind? Care to share? I did spend some time on Saturday in the Subaru (no satellite radio, so no news) taking my Birkenstocks in for new soles and at the food coop, so I may have missed something. And, on Sunday, I was distracted peeling and deveining shrimp and cleaning the pool and chunking blocks of ice into it.

    BTW: There’s a tall fair-skinned man with blond hair and blue eyes behind you! Watch out! He’s likely a Radical Islamic Fascist Terrorist! 

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Odd you should say that.

    I had MSNBC or CNN on at various times through the weekend, and I never heard that nor anything like that. Not even once. Did you have any specific incident(s) in mind? Care to share? I did spend some time on Saturday in the Subaru (no satellite radio, so no news) taking my Birkenstocks in for new soles and at the food coop, so I may have missed something. And, on Sunday, I was distracted peeling and deveining shrimp and cleaning the pool and chunking blocks of ice into it.

    BTW: There’s a tall fair-skinned man with blond hair and blue eyes behind you! Watch out! He’s likely a Radical Islamic Fascist Terrorist! 

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    One of the consequences of this little trauma we have been experiencing is that I have exceptionally low tolerance for talking points, on either side.

    I do agree with you about the Heilemann discussion. However, Joe had this tendency to repeat the same points, often good points, to the extent I get impatient. It tends to limit the discussion unnecessarily. Having said that, I think this beat anything on any of the Sunday morning shows.

    I tried to watch a bit of O’Van Susteren’s litany of Republican talking points last night. Pure agony. I didn’t make it ten (10) minutes. She is just awful.

  • Anonymous

    hannity like to brag about low deficit numbers under Bush..but NEVER attempt to explain how the national debt went from 5 to 10 trillion bucks during the bush years…the answer is simple….BUSH NEVER PAID FOR A DAMN THING HE BOUGHT…he never put any of his crap on the books, Bush used creative accounting tricks to pass the massive amount of money he was spending ahead to the next administration…rick perry and tim pawlenty did the exact same thing….thats how you have balanced budgets and accumulate massive debt at the same time…either you hobbits are bad at math or youre incredibly ignorant….gonna be a rough road for you wingnuts to hoe if you end medicade…..lots of seniors are on that program to pay the high cost of things like senior care….its pretty shameful that you poor brokes ass conservative are so gullible that you believe that multi millionares like hannity , beck and limbaugh have your best interest at heart…they lie and you buy

  • Anonymous

    hannity like to brag about low deficit numbers under Bush..but NEVER attempt to explain how the national debt went from 5 to 10 trillion bucks during the bush years…the answer is simple….BUSH NEVER PAID FOR A DAMN THING HE BOUGHT…he never put any of his crap on the books, Bush used creative accounting tricks to pass the massive amount of money he was spending ahead to the next administration…rick perry and tim pawlenty did the exact same thing….thats how you have balanced budgets and accumulate massive debt at the same time…either you hobbits are bad at math or youre incredibly ignorant….gonna be a rough road for you wingnuts to hoe if you end medicade…..lots of seniors are on that program to pay the high cost of things like senior care….its pretty shameful that you poor brokes ass conservative are so gullible that you believe that multi millionares like hannity , beck and limbaugh have your best interest at heart…they lie and you buy

  • Anonymous

    “I had MSNBC or CNN on at various times through the weekend”

    I watched all three.  CNN did a brilliant job. Period.  Every base was fairly covered.

    MSNBC actually brought their A-Game too.
    Without all their crazy pundits the rank-and-file journalists were unusually fair and balanced.  I’m not just saying that, I realize how partisan MSNBC is on weekdays, but they amazed me this weekend.
    I guess they are not used to working on weekends!  lol
    I’m almost sad it’s Monday again and they will go back to their old ways.

    Fox was pushing their ideology as always.  There wasn’t anything remotely fair or balanced about their coverage this weekend.  It was all pro-Tea Party.  No surprise there.  I don’t fault them for it, it’s what they do. I’m just surprised MSNBC didn’t play the same partisan game.

  • Anonymous

    “I had MSNBC or CNN on at various times through the weekend”

    I watched all three.  CNN did a brilliant job. Period.  Every base was fairly covered.

    MSNBC actually brought their A-Game too.
    Without all their crazy pundits the rank-and-file journalists were unusually fair and balanced.  I’m not just saying that, I realize how partisan MSNBC is on weekdays, but they amazed me this weekend.
    I guess they are not used to working on weekends!  lol
    I’m almost sad it’s Monday again and they will go back to their old ways.

    Fox was pushing their ideology as always.  There wasn’t anything remotely fair or balanced about their coverage this weekend.  It was all pro-Tea Party.  No surprise there.  I don’t fault them for it, it’s what they do. I’m just surprised MSNBC didn’t play the same partisan game.

  • Anonymous

    boring debate, all talking points bullshit                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                BTW: RRK wants to talk to you about teenage boys taking a bathe….Watch out

  • Anonymous

    boring debate, all talking points bullshit                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                BTW: RRK wants to talk to you about teenage boys taking a bathe….Watch out

  • Anonymous

    You mean the Obama Tax Cuts? Tell me, how does cutting taxes make jobs go overseas?

    I’d be looking at people like Obama’s close friend and economic adviser, General Electric CEO Jeff Immelt. Jeff is creating lots and lots of jobs. In China.

  • Anonymous

    You mean the Obama Tax Cuts? Tell me, how does cutting taxes make jobs go overseas?

    I’d be looking at people like Obama’s close friend and economic adviser, General Electric CEO Jeff Immelt. Jeff is creating lots and lots of jobs. In China.

  • Anonymous

    I was about ready to go to New York and strangle Ali Velshi. I guess Kenyans have to stick together.

  • Anonymous

    BTW: There’s a tall fair-skinned man with blond hair and blue eyes
    behind you! Watch out! He’s likely a Radical Islamic Fascist Terrorist!

    What the hell are you smoking, Kook?

  • Anonymous

    King Obama complains about his tax breaks . He thinks he and Moochy those like them should pay more taxes . He can !!! Simple guide below .

    Also , wise old Joe Biden could help the USA by not charging $2200. per month rent to the Secret Service at his house in Delaware when they are there to protect him . It’s not patriotic, Joe .

    “If Obama and the others with incomes over $250,000 genuinely believe that they are “not paying their fair share” of income taxes, then here are a few tax strategies they can use to increase the amount owed each year to Uncle Sam.
    Do not utilize itemized deductions.

     Do not place any money into deferred asset accounts including 401Ks, IRAs, Self-Employed 401Ks, SIMPLE or any other retirement type account.

    Do not recognize capital losses.

     Do not utilize the Foreign Tax Credit.

    If the Obamas had utilized these four simple tax maximizing strategies, they could have paid an additional $167,076 in 2010 federal taxes.This number would have more than offset the $69,050 they “saved” thanks to the Bush 4.6% marginal tax rate cut on incomes over $250,000.So the next time President Obama goes on a tirade that he is not paying his fair share of income taxes, please feel free to reference this article.”http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/how_the_obamas_and_the_guilty_left_can_pay_more_taxes.html 

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    That’s a good point about MSNBC weekday v. weekend. I have been watching more of O’Donnell during the last several weeks than usual. He has a special knowledge of how Congress, especially the Senate works. The information was useful, but I sure had to work to filter out his terrible arrogance and all of the krap he throws in. Plus, he has terrible guests.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t you just live Colby’s “left of center”?

    Do you understand Colby  - that your “fair minded” comments such as that are silly.  Williams is a democrat; is that so hard to say?  

  • Anonymous

    One day, someone will explain the difference between the budget and the deficit to you. “Not in the budget” does not equal “not on the books.” The war funding, which I know you’re referring to, was passed in bills separate from the budget. That doesn’t change the Treasury’s bottom line by so much as a penny.

  • Latin2

    Joe who?

    Too bad no one watched it.

  • Anonymous

    You must be mentally handicapped to copy, past and post this nonsense. So we are going to let anyone decide what he is willing to pay? Are you suggesting only the higher incomes have the choice? You want to run a budget on such insaniteas and idiocy, that´s almost too stupid to be true. Have fun licking the boots of your boss.   

  • Republicans are Liars

    What’s your point, Eddy? It takes everyone to make it work just not a few isolated cases. Get a grip, pea brain. The Republicans are throwing everybody under the bus except the rich. You can count on it in 2012 being thrown down your throat til you puke. If you are a Republican you are the gate keeper for the rich. Screw everybody else. We are going to be Mexico soon. Only the very wealthy and the poor. No more middle class. Will you be happy then?

  • Anonymous

    Said it earlier on a different thread. This country is on the way to downgrade from developed to developing country. These idiots can´t wait that it happens soon enough and seem to be for some mysterious reason happy about it. 

  • Anonymous

    So we are going to let anyone decide what he is willing to pay? Are you suggesting only the higher incomes have the choice?

    No, the bottom half could also decide to pay something.

  • Anonymous

    It takes everyone to make it work just not a few isolated cases.

    Then why doesn’t everyone pay?

  • Anonymous

    I couldn’t get the clip to play.  Who was loudest?  I want to know who won.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    It has come to that, hasn’t it?

  • Anonymous

    “….gonna be a rough road for you wingnuts to hoe if you end medicade…”

    Mrs. Obama . If I may be so bold as to point out a small error in your otherwise excellent insane diatribe .

    You hoe a row . You do not hoe a road . You will break your hoe on the hard surface ,

    You’re welcome .

  • Republicans are Liars

    Pablo don’t confuse the issue. Do you want a middle class in America or don’t you? This is what is boils down to. So what’s your answer?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    Let me see if I can explain this to you. It may be a bit complicated for a Tea Partier, so don’t get too frustrated.

    Point #1: A business environment is delicate, interactive and symbiotic.
    Businesses do not train and educate people. In most industrial
    societies, that task is left to the nation state in whole or in part.
    That process involves the expenditure of money, and the source of money
    for the nation state is taxation. Reduce or eliminate that money, and
    you have lost an effective and efficient work force. Similarly, the
    successful operation of a business requires a healthy work force. In
    most industrial societies, the nation state participates in significant
    part to health care. That requires taxation. Of course, the business
    through taxation contribute to education and health care, but the pool
    is increased thereby making the per employee/per citizen cost
    sustainable. We can go through any number of other factors at play under
    this same analysis, including the infrastructure for transportation,
    power and finance, but the point is made, and you now have the
    opportunity to make a glib a vacuous retort of no particular value to
    this discussion or to anyone.Of course, all of this assume a
    proportionality, a balance which does not make taxes confiscatory to the
    point of discouraging business development. I dare say, we come not
    even close to that.

    Point #2: Most nations subsidize businesses and business development
    which support key infrastructure  but are not otherwise sustainable on
    their own (the refined rail system in Europe and Japan, for example; the
    power grid); which are job sensitive and therefore result in income not
    otherwise attainable, the taxes on which might be expended for over-all
    economic growth; which increase the prestige of nation state in the
    world market, thereby strengthening banking and financial relationships,
    creating support industries (Airbus and Airbus supplier networks) and
    providing valuable PR; which simply provide on-going stimuli, seeing the
    businesses and the nation through cyclical adjustments without
    significant economic distress; which assign a capital value to shared
    human and natural resources recovered through taxation and available for
    reinvestment. Simply put, the taxation cycle becomes something like the
    rain cycle. To be sure we subsidize many, many industries in the US,
    defense industries most obviously, but other industries such as ethanol,
    farming, pharmaceutical. The key difference is the benefit of these
    subsidies accrues to individuals and corporations, only, Boeing, ADM,
    the Bachmanns, without reinvestment through equitable taxation. In other
    words, our subsidies are politically and not economically driven.

    There are many other points which could be made, but I’m sure you’re already so befuddled you can’t absorb more.

  • Anonymous

    Fact:

       TheloniousFunk  asked;  I want to know who won.  

    Hannity pushed Juan into admitting by his looks of buckwheat
    in the headlights that Obama is Jimmy Carter on steroids. Easy Hannity rules on this one. Hahahahahahaha…………

  • Anonymous

    Fact:

    The Republicans are throwing everybody under the bus

    Reid can’t keep his leftiest loony liberals in tow and is trying to make Obama look bad by excepting no higher taxes on the rich. Allowing triggers and allowing Cut, Cap and balance to be voted on before December just like the Tea Party demanded on the demarodents.

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t o’bama keep the evil, stupid, job killing, BUSH tax cuts in place? Kinda like Gitmo still being open under new management… Rendition, a favorite Clinton tool used at Gitmo… Still happening…

  • Anonymous

    Because Juan Williams got the boot from a liberal, progressive, think tank lefty NPR for telling the truth. He is afraid of Muslims. Tolerance and Diversity rule the day there… FOX News picked him up at a healthy salary to argue his points in front of a larger audience. That is diversity.

    Want to make a conservative angry, lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry, tell it the truth.

  • Anonymous

    Point #1: A business environment is delicate, interactive and symbiotic.
    Businesses do not train and educate people.

    Point #1: You are a moron. On the job training is alien to you?

  • Anonymous

    Someday, POA will get educated… Post in proper English…… Hobbits… How original….

    Naaaahhhh…..

  • Anonymous

    Fact:

     ProOzeroAgenda spews;BUSH NEVER PAID FOR A DAMN THING HE BOUGHT…he never put any of his crap on the books

    Please provide government accounting office information that proves your lies and provide links of your BS or admit to your lies.

  • Michelle

    Colby, I love how you call Sean a Conservative, but Juan is “left of center”.  Why can’t you call him a liberal? 

  • Anonymous

    I am the middle class, and if the facts of the matter confuse you, that sucks for you. You just told us everyone has to pitch in. Why don’t you want everyone to pitch in, then?

  • Anonymous

    Yeah Pablo… Why would you strive to be in the upper class? Why not just settle and be middle class? Or you could be an o’bama-naut welfare warrior. HEY here’s an idea, why not quit your job, take 3 years off to collect unemployment, get some food stamps, get some rent control…

    Some middle class or upper class person should be made to pay for that behavior damn it! This i America!

  • Anonymous

    Fact:

      TheRoyal Pain says;There are many other points which could be made, but I’m sure you’re already so befuddled you can’t absorb more. 

    Please wake us all up when you start. We can’t wait to read it!

  • Anonymous

    Don’t worry.  In November they are going to appoint a Superduper Committee.  That will fix things.

  • Anonymous

    First we’ll have to get a Blue Ribbon Comission to review the findings of the Superduper Committee. But then we should be all set.

  • http://twitter.com/FeelHood FeelHood Media

    “Want to make a conservative angry, lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry, tell it the truth.”

    I agree with this.

    FOXNews, Limbaugh, Drudge & Beck lie to Conservatives constantly & systematically.  Conservatives are very angry at imaginary things & imaginary people.

    Facts & can be infuriating & inconvenient.  However, that doesn’t stop Liberals from embracing facts & truth.

    Now, if you want to drive Conservatives bats hit insane, keep providing them with a steady tidal wave of facts, science, math, evidence & accurate history.

  • Anonymous

    BTW: RRK wants to talk about teenage boys taking a bathe. Watch Out

  • Anonymous

    Juan, what have I told you about skipping meals? What you need is a Satan Sandwich with Republican sauce…lol…mmm…tasty!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JUT2TATEV3OHGQ7HZRYN472XVM Felix

    And where else would you get such a civil, “fair & balanced” debate between a Lib and a Con…. definitely not on MSNBC or CNN.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000841936241 Matt Seegz

    And even after admitting all of that, you’d still call him a liberal.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JUT2TATEV3OHGQ7HZRYN472XVM Felix

    So, let me understand this… if YOU didn’t see it, then it must not have happened, right? Pablo did not say such comments were on MSNBC “this weekend”, but I’m sure you can google comments by other MSNBC commentators that mirror what Pablo was conveying.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000841936241 Matt Seegz

    “Want to make a conservative angry, lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry, tell it the truth.”

    Every day is Opposite Day for conservatives.

    It’s real funny, because conservatives are constantly being lied to by their own politicians and you just keep making excuses for why you should still follow them. I get lied to by my left-leaning politicians? Guess what? He’s gone. I don’t vote for him, I don’t acknowledge him, and I’m actively speaking out against him. You have this solidarity thing going between the right that they’re exploiting the hell out of, and you’re going to find that it left a big, nasty sore spot when you finally wake up.

    Sucks when reality has to butt its stupid ugly head into your happy, conservative dreamland, don’t it? Or is reality just a part of this great big “liberal propaganda” machine you still think exists?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, but first, don’t we need a bipartisan committee to decide exactly what the shape of the table for this blue ribbon commission sits at in order to assure  neither side has a physical advantage. Once, the seating arrangments are made we can move onto more important things like -what’s for lunch and who gets to select the menu.

    Establishing a commission to solve fundamentally polarizing issues makes as much sense as buying a Maserati without an engine, lest it be driven too fast.

  • Anonymous

    he’s barely a democrat, he’s only considered a radical leftie by you fringe lunatics on the right.

  • Anonymous

    Fact: most of just 4 the fax’ facts are actually a bunch of bile.

  • Anonymous

    None of this deals with anything but the symptoms -which was Obama’s purpose, when the only issue is overspending. The control freaks and their parasite supporters want more taxes and the responsible folks want to cut the umbilical cord -lest both  the baby and the mother die.

    Raising the ceiling lets the pressure out of the pot while turning up even more heat, destroying the meal inside.

  • Darladoon

    hannity is just soooooo concerned about balanced budgets, and yet
    cheered on BOTH WARS, and both bush tax cuts

  • Anonymous

    Explain this Einstein –

    “The Institute for Supply Management Manufacturing PMI gauge fell to 50.9
    in July from 55.3 in June, missing estimates of 54.9 and marking its
    weakest level in two years.”

    This is the effect of the utter failure of this administration to budget and manage the economy. While you are schooling Tea Party folks your Nero is burning down the house.

  • Greg

    Very clear and valuable explanation.

  • HawkCW4

    Sure he is.  There is one thing you should notice however.   There is not a single talking head, reporter, or what ever you choose to call these people, that loves America as much as Hannity does.  Sometimes I feel he gets a bit rigid in his views, but always wants the best for America.  

  • Anonymous

    Added to this is the following report on the market today:
    “The Dow slid more than 130 points – a 270-point drop from its session high – after the weakest ISM report in two years overshadowed progress on raising the U.S. debt ceiling.”

    Now that is what I call economic incompetence on a global scale. Congratulations liberals for making this happen.

  • Anonymous

    And paying no taxes.

  • chucker

    Actually, if you speak to most business owners they will tell you the reason that employment is currently lagging is due to the uncertainty surrounding the health care program that goes into effect between 2014 and 2020.  They anticipate that the cost of doing business combined with the increase in taxes to themselves as individuals will create an economic hardship that will make it impossible to do business. 

    By the way, to assume that being extremely verbose makes you too smart for tea party members lessens you, not us.  Your points could be made quite simply, but you choose to compose rambling treatises designed to make you look brilliant.  You could have simply written, “Some taxes are necessary for education and infrastructure to provide business the tools it needs to be successful in a global economy.”  But congratulations on your “brilliance.”

  • HawkCW4

    Yea what a waste of money right?   While were at it, lets get rid of all Police in this country,  All those cars and guns they seem to want.  Lets start trimming things we dont need.  Hey, you guys have water hoses?   If not get one,  and lets get rid of all those expensive firemen an maybe sell those pretty trucks.  What else can we stop spending money on,   why not teachers,  they dont teach and home schooling produces much smarter kids.  Sell all those schools,  bet the Muslims would love them for Mosques.  You are on sillie person Darladoon.  BUT thanks to wars,  you enjoy the freedom to be as stupid as you like.   Welcome to America

  • HawkCW4

    Yea what a waste of money right?   While were at it, lets get rid of all Police in this country,  All those cars and guns they seem to want.  Lets start trimming things we dont need.  Hey, you guys have water hoses?   If not get one,  and lets get rid of all those expensive firemen an maybe sell those pretty trucks.  What else can we stop spending money on,   why not teachers,  they dont teach and home schooling produces much smarter kids.  Sell all those schools,  bet the Muslims would love them for Mosques.  You are on sillie person Darladoon.  BUT thanks to wars,  you enjoy the freedom to be as stupid as you like.   Welcome to America

  • Anonymous

    There is some sanity in the business community.

    Real patriots pay taxes  http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/column/article_1776299a-32ea-5f93-a110-eaf156730376.html

    “There is no excuse for repeating a policy that’s a proven
    failure. It would be even worse this time around, as corporations
    would redouble their efforts to shift profits overseas in
    anticipation of the next tax holiday. Congress should close the tax
    loopholes that reward companies for transferring U.S. profits, jobs
    and investment abroad — not encourage them.

    Real patriots pay their fair share of taxes. They don’t run out
    on the bill.”

  • Anonymous

    He’s nothing less than a saint I tell ya.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J645OZRFQIYOXBNPNGQAJ3JSJE José

    That’s why Sean Hannity loves him some Turd Nugget – they just love that [white] America.  The [3] New Black Panthers, not so much.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J645OZRFQIYOXBNPNGQAJ3JSJE José

    Juan is no lib, he’s a foxified-do-boy

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J645OZRFQIYOXBNPNGQAJ3JSJE José

    The same could be said about every single fox talking head and their constant trashing of America which by the way is a liberal nation.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J645OZRFQIYOXBNPNGQAJ3JSJE José

    So it’s commendable to incite such people as Anders Beikivic with hate speech?

  • Anonymous

    Because he isn’t.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J645OZRFQIYOXBNPNGQAJ3JSJE José

    why bother, you have already chosen to stick with the lies just4thefax

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J645OZRFQIYOXBNPNGQAJ3JSJE José

    The bottom half already pay for something – through blood sweat and tears – their undervalued labor and their jobs being sent to India and China by corporatist robber barrons.  Maybe you could go the f* back to mexico, pablo.

  • Anonymous

    While collecting stimulus cash, and waiting to be the beneficiary of Obama’s high speed rail boondoggle.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a much easier way to solve the problem. Fair Tax. The lawyers would hate it, but I’m sure they could find honest work somewhere.

  • Anonymous

    Intellectual abstinence.  Better to be thought a fool  -  than to open your mouth & prove the point.

  • Tan

    There is no possible way Hannity has any friends. One is really hard pressed to think of any larger douche in the entire world..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CQWUTBF2KSSVOXCR4PSN66L2PM James

    I think Juan hit a nerve with Sean when he talked about the split.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_A5EOFAU2XKEZU44FTF7TS5KLXU Homer

    I do think you hit that one out the park – now the real problem is getting those who have their heads buried so deep in the sand to even understand, form whence you’re coming. All other countries, (developed or developing) are flying by the United Sates, as if we are standing in cement. The most amazing thing to me, is how people within the Tea Party, are always talking about protecting the children in the future – but they have no concern for those in the here and now, I beleive that if they did; they could not continue to line their pockets like bandits.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    You might spend a moment and consider your own words.

  • Spaystrays

    Because Juan isn’t a liberal. Why do you think they got rid of him at npr. They have wanted an excuse for years. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Although I agree with you that it takes all and not just a few…  But I would still like to see the Democrats in Congress and our president live up to their principles, lead by example so to speak… If it is the right thing to do then they should be doint it..  pay it forward so to speak, maybe by setting the example they would have an eaiser sale to the American people…  BTW where is Kerry’s yacht parked these days?

  • Anonymous

    Hereby, I declare you a candidate for the dumbest comment of the day! Congrats! It´s silly, not sillie. Many of right wingers are really just plain dumb and uneducated as you once again have proven with your amusingly illogical comment. An average 8 year old could teach you to read and write. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Yeah we’re standing in line for some of the UN and IMF money…  It’s gonna be great too, as soon as they downgrade us we can extend our hand as a nation, we will all be brothers and sisters again.  Since we are usually the ones that they look to to carry the load of all that financing won’t this be ironic…  we’re finally gonna get to take that freeride ourselves as a nation..  Life is going to be great!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Had to be a democratic idea, sounds too much like super-delegate to me.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NWVKX2P2QBPQ6FHQHCHVIC2ALQ Fedup in Florida

    Well that is one way of looking at it..  A little simple, a little dreamy, and much left out if you are to really consider modern day America.

  • Dannymz22

    MSNBC always has conservatives on. If you’ve ever seen Sharpton’s, O’Donnell’s or Maddow’s show you’d know that.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JUT2TATEV3OHGQ7HZRYN472XVM Felix

    Read my post again — I did not say there were no Cons on MSNBC. BTW, look at the condescending, disrespectful and uncivil way Matthews, Maddow and O’Donnell “interview” Cons vs. Libs.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JUT2TATEV3OHGQ7HZRYN472XVM Felix

    Really? What’s your definition of a Lib?

  • Anonymous

    >> Juan Williams: “Here you have such a fracture among conservatives… It is
    hurting you and you don’t want to deal with it.”

    I happened to catch this and it was a fun debate to see. Colby Hall was spot on when he noted: “Williams gave
    just as good as he got.” And because they’re apparently friends in real life, Hannity and Williams didn’t let their tempers get TOO out of control.

    However, that said, Williams’ comment (noted above) was CLEARLY a truth that was striking a very raw nerve with Hannity all night — if not the last few days. During this whole debate, it’s been fascinating to watch Hannity because — quite frankly — the man has been LOSING IT right on the air.

    I mean, it’s one thing to take a side…it’s one thing to argue about the minute details…but Hannity has just been going volcano on anyone who didn’t agree with him 100%. Sure, it’s one thing to watch him challenging a Democrat — THAT you expect. But lately it’s been nutty to see JUST how angry and bitter Hannity will be towards ANYONE who says “This sounds like an okay compromise. I can live with this deal.”

    Hell, at one point, he nearly picked an on-air fight with Brett Baier simply because he didn’t like the way Baier transitioned a segment and described a particular debt detail. Within seconds, you could SEE Hannity getting completely red-faced because he THOUGHT Baier was giving out a fact that was beneficial to the Democrat’s side.

    But in the best moment of all, Baier simply shrugged off Hannity’s bluster and then proceeded — cool and calm, the way a GOOD host should — to note that his fact was a cold, hard fact. And there was NO debating it. At which point you could just SEE the frustration exploding on Hannity’s face. And you could just TELL that he wanted to blurt out: “What the hell are you DOING, Brett!!!  You’re SUPPOSED to agree with me!!!!”

    I can admire Hannity for sticking to his conservative guns. On the other hand, I have to say his tirades did become off-putting once he started to yell people down for simply for having a different viewpoint. And as a host, Sean is usually better than than — right wing bias that he has. A good example was when he had Stuart Varney and Karen Hanrettty on, BOTH of whom are staunch Republicans. In that segment, Hannity couldn’t kiss Varney’s butt enough since Varney was towing the Hannity line. On the flip side, Hannity was just being flat out rude to Hanretty…and barely letting her talk…simply because she DARED to veer the slightest bit from the talking points that Sean wanted to plug on national TV.

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  • Anonymous

    I didn’t say “radical” leftie – you did.  
    Grow the hell up.  The only lunatic is you.  

  • Anonymous

    You know this how?

  • Anonymous

    You think your last sentence resembled any type of cognitive thought? lol

    Are you the economic guru who will decide what is “fair” in the way of taxes?

    Hell, you can’t even make a thoughtful post – you’ve got companies being rewarded with tax loopholes for moving their operations abroad?.  You want to tax them more – thus encouraging more companies to move their operations abroad.  So you’d raise the tax level, they’d move their operations because they can’t afford to operate profitably between taxes and unions.  So, suddenly they make less in the u.s. and revenue goes down.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TW7RDF2EW3MIQZZTPR7O6ORXIQ robert

    They take their tax cuts and invest it overseas…so the bush tax cuts did create jobs in China, India and Mexico.  The only way we can compete with them is to drop wages to their levels and shit can regulation to reduce cost.

  • JohnJGuy

    Exactly who is Hannity arguing with, is he praising those Tea Baggers out of fear. I’m justg wondering if he feels those two wars are still worth the expense and all the effort to America anymore. 

    We’ll just let the middle class and poor finance them some more I suppose….

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