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White House Sides With TSA In Rand Paul Incident, Says He ‘Was Not Detained’

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During a White House press briefing, press secretary Jay Carney said that the Obama Administration stood beside the Transportation Security Administration in the wake of Kentucky Senator Rand Paul being allegedly detained at the Nashville International Airport.

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul called the TSA a “police state” after his son was allegedly “detained” for refusing a pat-down.

RELATED: Reports: Sen. Rand Paul Detained By TSA

The Press Secretary first spoke about Sen. Paul’s situation in terms of standard TSA procedure, pointing out that “Passengers who refuse to complete the screening process” are not granted access to the secure area of the airport.

He then addressed Sen’ Paul’s allegation directly, referring to him as “The Passenger (screenplay idea!)

“Let’s just be clear,” Carney said, “the passenger was not detained. The passenger triggered an alarm during routine airport screening, but refused to complete the screening process in order to resolve the issue. Passengers, as in this case, who refuse to comply with security procedures are denied access to the secure gate area. In this case, the passenger was escorted out of the screening area by local law enforcement. It’s my understanding he has now rebooked and passed through security without incident, and that has resolved itself.

Carney said he had no comment in response to Paul’s “police state” remarks.

“I think it is absolutely essential that we take necessary actions to ensure that air travel is safe,” Carney said.

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(h/t TheHill)

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  • Anonymous

    sounds like something Nixon would do, Mr Obama.

  • Gloves Llarry Donahue

    So he doesn’t think the TSA officers “acted stupidly?”

    Same response if it was Schumer or Durbin or Alec Baldwin?

  • Anonymous

    Thanks TSA, for making me feel safer. I just wish you had the authority to do more.

    What critics of the TSA don’t appreciate is that any one of those passengers could be a terrorist with a bomb. And sooner or later one of those evil doers will smuggle a bomb on board up their butt. It terrifies me to think of all those rectal cavities currently left unchecked. I can only pray that America finally wakes up and gives the TSA the power it needs to keep us safe.

  • Centrist79

    Publicity stunt by Mr Paul.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45S32GWGDRUJIL6E2U4HOZW4BM Bob

    At least the TSA didn’t make Ron Paul Jr. bow down to Aqua Buddha while he was detained.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll file this with the story about the Cambridge police acting “stupidly” in the Gates case.  Unless a White House rep was there, they may want to withhold judgment.

  • Pablo
  • Pablo

    Pass the Fly Naked Act now!

  • Hout Bosques

    Randy Paul IS a publicity stunt.

  • Anonymous

    F*** you Obama

  • http://sdhardie.tumblr.com Sheila

    Why should he be treated any differently than you or I would be in this same situation? Thank you, TSA, for not having special rules for “special” people.

  • Duke Chesnut

    Article 1, Section 6 of the Constitution Affirms that no member of congress shall be detained from attending his duties traveling to Congress to fulfill his duties.  Since when has this President ever followed the “Old Document filled with Negative Rights” Constitution? I believe the TSA singled out Senator Rand Paul for an official Big Sis Smackdown by her Brownshirts the TSA.

  • Hout Bosques

    Don’t go off & be a complete moron or anything. This was in response to a question to the White House press secretary by the press, & it’s part of the mandate of that office to respond to such questions where it’s able. In this instance, Carney reviewed the exact same report that went to the Department of Homeland Security & which will go to the FAA, so besides there being no reason to defer the question elsewhere, responding to it fell entirely within the the office’s mandate. 

    Quite apart from that, your comparison is also moronic. The Cambridge police DID act “stupidly” in the Skip Gates case – that was Gates’ own home he was arrested at, which he told the Cambridge police, & the officers involved specifically admitted that they took into account two factors: (1) a number of recent home break-in complaints in the area, none of which were attributed to blacks, & (2) that Gates was a black man.   

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, Obama started TSA and the pat downs. He also cause 9/11 and the mortgage bubble. 

  • Hout Bosques

    Right – “a little bit” … for being an asshole.

  • Anonymous

    You can criticize the TSA. That’s one thing. But Paul is being a baby because he had to follow the same federal procedures as everyone else. He knew what would happen if he refused but he did it anyway. I’m not pro-TSA but I also don’t feel sorry for Paul. 

  • Anonymous

    What did TSA do wrong? They applied the same rules to Paul that they apply to everyone? This isn’t something that they should apologize for. Sure, the security sucks and the TSA could be vastly improved, but this isn’t like the case when the Cambridge police threw handcuffs on the guy whose house was possibly being robbed. The latter was a mistake. 

  • Henry Wood

    Leave it to republiklans to make completely ridiculous comparisons and harken back to some ancient racial grudge against Obama.

  • Pablo

    Ron Paul Jr. wasn’t detained.

  • http://profiles.google.com/fatlibertarianinokc Fat Libertarian

    Rand Paul has been railing against TSA and their procedures from day one.

    For every American.  

    Fail.

  • Pablo

    No, Skip Gates acted stupidly. When you’ve just broken into your house and the cops show up saying they’ve had a report of a break in, you show them your damn ID. You don’t start screaming at them and calling them racists.

    the officers involved specifically admitted that they took into account two factors: (1) a number of recent home break-in complaints in the area, none of which were attributed to blacks, & (2) that Gates was a black man.

    Bullshit.

  • Anonymous

    What does that have to do with anything? I can say I think it’s stupid that TSA won’t let me carry a firearm on board a plane, or that I have to wear a seat belt or I’ll get a ticket, or I can say that I think I should be able to take drugs in the privacy of my own home, and if I try to break those rules, I know I’ll get punished. Paul is a critic of TSA, but just because he is doesn’t mean he gets to break the rules everyone else has to follow. You don’t follow only the rules you agree with in society, otherwise things wouldn’t work. He knew what was going to happen. 

    So, Fat L… “Fail” 

  • Anonymous

    Only Aqua Buddha was detained, but chains could not hold him. 

  • Pablo

    He isn’t saying he should get special treatment. He is very much on the record saying that nobody should be subjected to the invasive treatment of TSA and that it’s a violation of our liberty.

  • Pablo

    That was Rand Paul, not you.

  • Pablo

    Who said he should be treated differently?

  • Anonymous

    No, he’s exactly saying he should get special treatment because he’s whining as if he were forced to miss his speech when the truth is he was grandstanding to make a political point. If on my way to a job interview I tried to board a plane with a pocketknife and then refused to discard the knife because I disagreed with TSA rules, I wouldn’t have the high ground to act like I was treated unfairly or was prevented from boarding the plane. It would be my choice to miss the flight. 

    The truth is Paul chose to miss his speech because he wanted to make a political point. I think that’s fine, and I’m ambivalent about the TSA as well. But he can’t also whine about it as if he were given no choice. All they asked is that he abide by the rules they apply to every single other person in the country. 

  • david r

     It’s puff-puff, give.  Got that?  Puff-puff, give.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeffrey-Edelman/1051570527 Jeffrey Edelman

    Big Sis is incompetent; if she would have been the proper brownshirt I thought she was, she would have had Senator Paul beaten within inch of his life.   If you’re going to defecate on the Constitution, you might as well water it with the blood of a tyrant as well.

  • Duke Chesnut

    Article 1, Section 8  ” Except for treason….” Read it. Yes Members of Congress should have an exception to the rules. Maybe even DiplomaticPouches safe from Search.

  • Anonymous

    You Tea Partiers should become more acquainted with the Constitution if you’re going to be strict constitutionalists. It’s Sec. 6 and, as you can see below, it doesn’t apply here. Paul wasn’t in the Senate nor was he going there. Nor did this involve an arrest. There is nothing in Sec. 8 that applies. 

    Clause 1: The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. (See Note 6) They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, beprivileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

  • Duke Chesnut

    “Bepriviledged from arrest” certainly sounds like detained, does it not?……To Mencius below.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Leah-Gluchoff/1232659940 Leah Gluchoff

    Being slaughtered while flying in a sardine can is a violation of my liberty-therefore when I fly I volunteer for any check they want to give me. I don’t care if they pat me down naked in full view of everyone if it will  keep me safe. And I demand MY right and that of my family to be safe by insisting that everyone else be forced to comply with the very reasonable laws for scanning and pat downs. If a terrorist doesn’t care when he slaughters children, women, and old people he’s never met, he or she will use children, wheelchairs etc. with impunity, too. The minute we start exempting people from checks because they are ‘safe’, then the terrorists will  use those ‘SAFE’ people or objects for the next attack. Stop whining, RAND PAUL, or stop flying. Your LIBERTY is to choose to drive or take the train or walk to your destination. You don’t have the LIBERTY to endanger the rest of us.

  • http://twitter.com/Darr247 Darr Darr

    You failed to cite the exceptions listed in that section. Among them is “breach of the peace.”

    The “don’t touch my junk” guy was arrested for disturbing the peace when he refused a patdown in the same circumstances, then threatened with an $11,000 fine for violating TSA regulations if he didn’t plead guilty. So, yes – Senator Paul *should* have been arrested, just like the ‘junk’ guy and the rape victim in TX who refused to be groped by the TSA back around Christmas.

  • http://twitter.com/Darr247 Darr Darr

    He was treated differently… a “common” citizen would have been arrested for refusing a patdown after setting of an alarm.

  • Anonymous

    Duke, two points. First, it doesn’t matter what it sounds like because Paul was neither in the Senate nor going to the Senate. That’s clearly a requirement for the legal protections to kick in. 

    Secondly, “beprivileged from arrest” means that he won’t get arrested. He is privileged with a get-out-jail-free card is what it means, but only under those certain conditions. He wasn’t arrested. Arrest is legally different from detained and he wasn’t even detained so none of this is relevant. 

  • Duke Chesnut

    You leftys are sure a Fascist Bunch, arrest him, detain grandma, whats Next, Round up all The JEWS?

  • Anonymous

    I’m blaming him for his spokes-hole today.

  • Duke Chesnut

    Who’s going to keep us safe in our homes and business places when #occupy chooses Anarchy and ‘seizing’ private property. Should we detain them, arrest them, or let them go free to vandalize and terrorize churches and vice-presidents of banks in their own homes? And who determines such courses of actions, You?

  • Anonymous

    Ok. I get it. You were being sarcastic. My bad, sir. 

  • Pablo

    Such is the power of the mind. He’s like Natan Sharansky.

  • Pablo

    Really? Quote him saying that.

  • Pablo

    Paul hasn’t argued that, from what I’ve seen. He’s not Patrick Kennedy, thank God.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194329,00.html

  • Pablo

    Uh, no. You’re just not allowed to go through.

  • Anonymous

    Sure. Watch the video on this link and see him whine about being held up because he has to make a speech, when in fact all he had to do was submit to a pat-down. 

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/rand-paul-in-pat-down-standoff-with-tsa-in-nashville/ 

  • Anonymous

    If he were blindfolded, then yes. 

  • Anonymous

    You should get out more. They just say you can’t board since you won’t go through security procedures. The stuff the Ron Paul blogs are telling isn’t always accurate. 

  • Pablo

    Blindfold? Aqua Buddha sees all.

  • Pablo

    You’re not a Senator arguing for TSA policy changes.

  • Pablo

    Sorry. If that happened to you, and it caused you to miss something you were scheduled to do, you wouldn’t complain about it? Of course you would.

    Unless and until you find him saying “They can’t do that to me! I’m a Senator!” you haven’t found him arguing for special treatment. He’s arguing the same thing he’s been arguing on the Senate floor, for everybody.

  • Pablo

    That is correct.

  • Pablo

    Wait, you actually think he’s a danger on a plane?

    Reasonable pat downs? http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2012/01/two-elderly-women-allege-they-were-strip-searched.html

    This is ridiculous, and this is only one example. Well, two actually.

  • Jackson Baer

    Although limited in time, He did well at the debate tonight. Ron Paul won’t win Florida but I hope he does better than 10%. I don’t know why his appeal is so limited in the Southern states. Are my Southern friends that opposed to his foreign policy and the idea of living by the Golden Rule? I’m from Georgia and I just don’t get it. Paul is fiscally conservative and stands for liberty and freedom.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=262l6tbHSlU

    http://www.whatthehellbook.com/2012/01/17/to-hell-with-peace/

  • Anonymous

    I can’t wait till next year when Obama has to fly commercial (unless he spends his millions on chartering) and he gets TSA groped, maybe then he’ll realize how authoritarian and wrong doing this to law abiding citizens is.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    Rand was re-educated at a FEMA camp…the TSA story was just a cover story

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Royce-Earnest-Jr/515733979 Royce Earnest Jr

    I’m no Rand Paul fan (at all) but if he wasn’t detained, I’d love to know what ya call it. Don’t side against the guy just because you don’t like him. I think he’s a moron, but he’s right on this one. I’m not saying he shouldn’t have been detained, I’m saying the White House needs to see it for what it is.

  • Anonymous

    Another bald faced lie by Carney! Media compliant!

  • expatpatriot

    May your omniscient superpowers stand you in good stead! Could you please turn your psychic recording of the event into an MPEG so we can all watch it?

    Or perhaps, you’re speaking out of your ass, which is a not-so-super power.

  • Anonymous

    I saw his tweets as it was happening! Am also seeing TSA craft their words. It happened.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DOEI2FB4SYMKMGC3MJKUDJGDGQ Kerry Kolsch

    Did you ever hear of the Fourth Amendment? It has not been repealed, which makes all of the TSA searches unconstitutional. If most of the morons in this country have forgot about protecting our liberty don’t fault a guy who is one of the last voices of reason. 

  • Anonymous

    The White House later clarified that he had not been detained, but had been escorted out of the screening area by law enforcement after refusing to “complete the screening process.” When they escort you, you are in detention!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UADZ6GH4FTP3HZXMNM73MWDKT4 Johnathan

    If flying is that scary to you, then you have the liberty to “choose to drive or take the train or walk to your destination.”  Your fear of “Being slaughtered while flying in a sardine can” is a phobia that is not supported by history nor statistics going forward.  Should I also be required to have federal employees search under my bed and in my closet to keep me and everyone else safe from the boogyman?  After all, it is YOUR right to be kept safe from any threat you percieve whether it is real or not.

    Are you concerned about being slaughtered while shopping for groceries in a wharehouse?
    Are you concerned about being slaughtered while walking down a public road?
    Are you concerned about being slaughtered by a lightning strike?

    Please stop forcing me to submit to invasive searches, because you are to cowardly to get on an airplane without the comfy feeling you get from the security theatre the TSA provides.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Royce-Earnest-Jr/515733979 Royce Earnest Jr

    And then they ushered him into a detainment room and wouldn’t let him use his phone.

  • Anonymous

    If we didn’t invade Iraq & Afghanistan none of this would have happened, 9/11 would never happened either. We don’t belong there, all we are accomplishing is creating another generation of terrorist.

  • Anonymous

    You are missing the point, our government has brought all this vindictive terrorism upon us by invading other countries for an unjust cause.

  • david r

     Did you ever see those crazy-assed frat boy pix?

  • Anonymous

    Sen. Paul said  that he certainly felt like he was detained.
    “If you’re told you can’t leave, does that count as detention?” Paul asked.

    “I tried to leave the cubicle to speak to one
    of the TSA people and I was barked at: ‘Do not leave the cubicle!’

    “And, because I used my
    cell phone, they told me I would have to do a full body pat down because you’re
    not allowed to use your cell phone when you’re being detained.”

  • Douglas W. Rodrigues

    The only person using race here is you. 

  • Douglas W. Rodrigues

    So-called Liberals don’t want to know anything about logic or factual information.  It’s confuses them.

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