Fox News Guest Defends Gov. Perry’s Prayer Event: ‘We Are A Prayerful Nation’

A must read on the topic…

https://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god

“The argument where Perry is concerned, however, is that he is exploiting people who believe and want this to be a prayerful nation for his own political gain, especially as speculation on whether or not he’ll set out to run run 2012 rages on.”

Ha!

Maybe Perry should serve dinner and charge them all a grand a plate, in order to have a sincere gathering of like-minded concerned citizens.

Greg said:
A must read on the topic…

https://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god

Oh, goody!

The age-old liberal version of Islamofascists finally rears its head!

Greg said:
A must read on the topic…

No thanks. The people who are protesting this really need to remove the stick from their ass.

Cecelia said:
Oh, goody!

The age-old liberal version of Islamofascists finally rears its head!

The Texas Observer?

“A little-known movement of radical Christians and self-proclaimed prophets wants to infiltrate government, and Rick Perry might be their man.”

Sounds right.

Hmm, didn’t really seem to work for rain.

The argument where Perry is concerned, however, is that he is exploiting people who believe and want this to be a prayerful nation for his own political gain, especially as speculation on whether or not he’ll set out to run in 2012 rages on.

Is it? Well, you go ahead and run with that, then. There’s nothing Americans want less than a president who goes to church.

Fokker News said:
Sounds right.

Wlell, it would sound right to you.

You just posted the exact link on another thread.

Greg said:
The Texas Observer?

Anyone to the right of them.

Cecelia said:
Wlell, it would sound right to you.

You just posted the exact link on another thread.

Nah, I just read the headline for the first time from Greg’s link.

Amen…..

Fokker News said:
Nah, I just read the headline for the first time from Greg’s link.

Sorry… Fixed News.. Foxxer… whatever….

I pray neither Palin, Bachmann or Rick Perry become POTUS.

Greg said:
A must read on the topic…

https://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god

Greg, I read the article earlier. Moderate republicans and Libertarians need to read what you posted.
The article brings up legitimate questions.

Thelonious Funk said:
Hmm, didn’t really seem to work for rain.

Well, you can only hope that it won’t help this time too.

Nature Freak said:
Greg, I read the article earlier. Moderate republicans and Libertarians need to read what you posted.
The article brings up legitimate questions.

Do they comprise the lyrics of the Indigo Girls?

Is Governor Perry requiring the population of Texas to attend? NO? Then, I see no problem with it.

I don’t practice any religion, gave up the fantasy over a decade ago. But I hold firm to the RIGHT of freedom of religion. It isn’t freedom from religion. The Athiests need to come to grips with the fact that there are people who believe differently than they do. They are free to believe what they do, but, contrary to the Lib/Prog mindset, the other side has the same right to believe what they do.

Thelonious Funk said:
Hmm, didn’t really seem to work for rain.

Maybe Rick Perry can audition for the role of Bill Starbuck in “The Rainmaker”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rainmaker_%28play%29
I actually would trust Starbuck over Rick Perry in a heartbeat.

Cecelia said:
Do they comprise the lyrics of the Indigo Girls?

Cecelia, You went over my head.
I meant this.
https://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god

Cecelia said:
Do they comprise the lyrics of the Indigo Girls?

OK, I get it, The Bangles video.
The Bangles are very different from the Indigo Girls
Mediaite is about popular culture, so I like to inject some of that into by arguments.
How can one hate the talented and beautiful Susanna Hoffs?

Nature Freak said:
OK, I get it, The Bangles video.
The Bangles are very different from the Indigo Girls
Mediaite is about popular culture, so I like to inject some of that into by arguments.
How can one hate the talented and beautiful Susanna Hoffs?

I take that as a “yes”.

“If they simply professed unusual beliefs, movement leaders wouldn’t be remarkable. But what makes the New Apostolic Reformation movement so potent is its growing fascination with infiltrating politics and government. The new prophets and apostles believe Christians—certain Christians—are destined to not just take “dominion” over government, but stealthily climb to the commanding heights of what they term the “Seven Mountains” of society, including the media and the arts and entertainment world. They believe they’re intended to lord over it all. As a first step, they’re leading an “army of God” to commandeer civilian government.

In Rick Perry, they may have found their vessel. And the interest appears to be mutual.”

Mike Gallagher? A guest? This guy will say anything to get on Fox News.

Greg said:
If they simply professed unusual beliefs, movement leaders wouldn’t be remarkable. But what makes the New Apostolic Reformation movement so potent is its growing fascination with infiltrating politics and government. The new prophets and apostles believe Christians—certain Christians—are destined to not just take “dominion” over government, but stealthily climb to the commanding heights of what they term the “Seven Mountains” of society, including the media and the arts and entertainment world. They believe they’re intended to lord over it all. As a first step, they’re leading an “army of God” to commandeer civilian government.

In Rick Perry, they may have found their vessel. And the interest appears to be mutual.”

This is something new?

You guys have been fear mongering with the threat of a theocracy since the Moral Majority down to the Christian Coalition.

http://libertystreet.wordpress.com/2008/01/16/mike-huckabee-wants-the-us-to-be-a-christian-th
eocracy/

http://www.schoolsmatter.info/2007/04/tommy-thompson-reliable-theocratic.html

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/05/11/513604/-McCains-Theocratic-Ties

http://www.americablog.com/2006/04/george-allen-pushing-promotion-of.html (theocracy…)

There is no “Separation fo Church and State” in the constitution. It does not exist. The courts have made a mess of this.

Dave Richards said:
There is no “Separation fo Church and State” in the constitution. It does not exist. The courts have made a mess of this.

Christianism and the American Theocracy.

Unless there is public money being spent other than Perry’s salary and security, this is not an issue nor should it be. As an American, he has the right to worship how he chooses and to invite others, just not in any official capacity.

The Constitutional requirement is that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Which means no public money can be spent since that requires a legislative act. Otherwise, not a problem.

Same for the annual Nativity Scene deal. As long as no public dollars are spent and all religions have equal access, I see no problem with them in front of City Hall.

Cecelia said:
This is something new?

You guys have been fear mongering with the threat of a theocracy since the Moral Majority down to the Christian Coalition.

If it was not for the so called “fear mongering”, America would be much closer to a theocracy today.

Activism against the Moral majority and the Christian coalition has been needed. It has been partially successful in counterbalancing the rise of intolerance from the radical Christian right. America would be different today without your hated activism, and in my opinion for the worse.

Religious event my ass. This is a naked political event disguised as a religious rally, and taxes paid by Texans are being use to support both Perry’s religiousity and his political ambitions.

I’m not entire sure that’s illegal or even “wrong,” per se, but it sure as hell wins the week’s prize for hypocrisy.

Nature Freak said:
Activism against the Moral majority and the Christian coalition has been needed. It has been partially successful in counterbalancing the rise of intolerance from the radical Christian right. America would be different today without your hated activism, and in my opinion for the worse.

So since their inception, what accounts for so many Republican presidents and it taking an economic crisis and two unpopular wars to get a Democratic congress and senate?

WOW

We get this story, but this board is STILL silent on the illegal fundraising going on inside the WH? President Obama is violating every law that exists to raise money for his reelection and the so-calle dmedia is silent, but we get a story about someone who hasn’t even declared he is runningfor President?

WOW

The hatred for Christian loving americans by the left is only exceeded by their complete blindness regarding hehimself and claiming he is brilliant.

WOW

Yeah what America needs is another religious screwball politician.

Dave Richards said:
There is no “Separation fo Church and State” in the constitution. It does not exist. The courts have made a mess of this.

What about the establishment clause?

Atheist should spend there time doing something fun since once they die there is nothing else. But if they want to spend time lobbying against a religIous group, why not go after a group that does not have Americans best interest at heart like ohhhhh I don’t know uhhhhhh maybe the EXTREME muslims??? This would go a long way in making this christian based nation NOT think they are as stupid as they appear. just a thought.

Yes, and FOX News is an idiot-ful network.

Jim Treacher said:
Is it? Well, you go ahead and run with that, then. There’s nothing Americans want less than a president who goes to church.

How about a president bought and sold by lunatics who carry on conversations with God, who literally believe that God governs America (they’re silent on whether God also governs Belize, Andorra, and Suriname), and have appointed themselves Apostles to “change history” (while ending Mad Cow Disease through prayer).

Yep, that’s the type of president America is clamoring for.

TfT said:
WOW

We get this story, but this board is STILL silent on the illegal fundraising going on inside the WH? President Obama is violating every law that exists to raise money for his reelection and the so-calle dmedia is silent, but we get a story about someone who hasn’t even declared he is runningfor President?

WOW

The hatred for Christian loving americans by the left is only exceeded by their complete blindness regarding hehimself and claiming he is brilliant.

WOW

Obama is violating every law that exists? I take it back: he really is Superman.

Pokerdude777 said:
Atheist should spend there time doing something fun since once they die there is nothing else. But if they want to spend time lobbying against a religIous group, why not go after a group that does not have Americans best interest at heart like ohhhhh I don’t know uhhhhhh maybe the EXTREME muslims??? This would go a long way in making this christian based nation NOT think they are as stupid as they appear. just a thought.

American atheists attempting to address an impropriety they see in America. Seems pretty appropriate to me. Unless you can point out an extremist Muslim governor of some other state that they’ve overlooked?

‘We Are A Prayerful Nation’

I hope Perry doesn’t have a prayer.

I guess Perry is the latest Huckabee to come down the pike.  It sure is taking mankind a long time to evolve.

Prayer has been proven to work so well. I’m sure this will end the drought in Texas that God has forced upon them. All they have to do is collectively ask at the same time. Wait, is that Communism?

If the governor of the state is holding this event, who do you suppose pays for it?  I’m not anxious to spend my tax dollars on a religious, quasi-political attraction for the benefit of Gov. Goodhair’s campaign, whether he’s running for President or dog-catcher.  It’s a blatant attempt to draw people to an affair that will excoriate the current national policies and shine up the brass on Rick’s big buttons.  Since he’s flying all over the country (on whose money??) promoting himself as a real politician and railing against Obama’s administration, what makes you think the “service” will be strictly religious?

My ancestors did not get on the Mayflower and other ships, and come to find a new life in this country, to turn around and have some religious a** politicians think they are going to take us back to having the Bishops move into the White House so they can make laws!      Rick Perry better not try and run for President—thinking he wis going to start some theocracy here  !      Besides, isn’t he trying to secede the State away from the US of A ?     Let the creep start his religious cult commune there in Texas, don;’t bother Real Americans !

Fox News Guest Defends Gov. Perry’s Prayer Event: ‘We Are A Prayerful Nation’

Yup and lots of us arepowefully lost in the dark ages too.

I’m happy someone is praying for our country. We really need it now.

Gallagher = Gallagoof

If private citizen Rick Perry wishes to have a big prayer meeting with like-minded individuals and pay for the thing out of his own pocket, nothing wrong with that. Not my thing, but it’s his business and private beliefs, protected under the Constitution.

But if Governor of Texas Rick Perry does the same thing, using tax dollars to fund it**, I find it a violation of Church and State. Especially since it looks like an attempt to shore up a “base” of fellow Christians to help him politically.

**DOES Perry have enough money as a private citizen, without dipping into political accounts, to rent a football stadium and the acoutrements that go with such an enormous gathering?

 The courts have only made it consistent with beliefs and writings of Jefferson and Madison among others, as well as past treaties the US has signed regarding the subject.

 The courts have only made it consistent with beliefs and writings of Jefferson and Madison among others, as well as past treaties the US has signed regarding the subject.

You want to feel shivers run down your spine, pick up a copy of ‘The Family’ by Jeff Sharlet. it’ll tell you about the elected Congressmen and their  un-elected co-conspirators in the takeover of America.  It’s chilling and their plan is well along, having been formulated decades ago. They are patient people, and always working the crowd. They use religion as a cover for their machinations and as a way to control the people they need to use to attain their goals. Look for household names of people in government……they have a communist cell structure of membership…… this country is toast if more people don;t read this book and work to stop these guys……..but hardly anyone wants to read printed material lately……

Right Celia…they have been at this longer than that…..MM was one stop on their journey to complete control of this country. The mission this year is to take control of the financial/fiscal affairs of the country and shut off money to the people and departments that stand in their way. They have the patience of Job and the organizing skills of the Pharohs Jewish accountant and don’t mind a little David and Bathsheba off the clock fun and games among their members…..

Because the people are sucked in by the soothing lies of the rightwingers. And when the feathers hit the fan they elect a democrat to fix things, then send him to the woodshed when the right takes the credit for the improvements. Faux ‘news’ has been a perfect machine to lull the citizenry by firing them up against the very people who see the dangers ahead and try to warn them, but Americans are fickle and will need to fight hand to hand in the woods again to get their country back. But it won’t be an easy war, and maybe not winnable. The Bush bunch made this country too many enemies. We can’t fight all the islamists AND our own government. The rightwing feeds on the emotional fears of the people, while thinking folks see the train wreck coming. For 8 years Bush and company spent us into poverty and put it on the national credit card. Weren’t you paying attention?