Golf Writer Defends Story: At Least Eight People Heard Trump Call White House a ‘Dump’

Donald Trump says he never called the White House “a real dump,” but the sports journalist who reported the president’s remarks says there were multiple witnesses, and he’s sticking with his story.

The president sent out an angry tweet last night about how the allegations were “TOTALLY UNTRUE,” and the White House demanded a retraction from Sports Illustrated‘s Alan Shipnuck. Shipnuck addressed this in a podcast interview with, where he said his story was true, and there were at least eight people who heard Trump say his remarks.

“It’s not a lie. The president said this in front of eight or nine members and staffers at [Trump] Bedminster. It was his first visit to the club after he had been residing in the White House. It was a moment of candor. Someone who was a part of that conversation relayed it to me. I found this person to be an extremely credible source on a number of topics. The week of the U.S. Women’s Open, I heard the same story told by two or three different other sources. This is certainly a moment that has already passed into legend at Trump Bedminster. It might be inconvenient for her boss and she might wish he didn’t say it, but it’s not a lie.”

Shipnuck also talked about how the Trump Administration has a blunt communications department (even without Anthony Scaramucci), and that the president lets his guard down when he’s surrounded by friendly faces on his properties.

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