He’s right. Especially right now. We should be focusing on saving OUR nation and OUR people. We just don’t have the money anymore.

The who thing about going to war to save the jews is bull we never found death camps until we invaded europe we went to war to protect england. The nazis tried to expell the jews befor wwII thats when albert einstien came over but we refused most jews into the u.s. we never went to war to protect the jewish people I think thats why this is a bunch of bull. I cant see how ron paul would think we went to war to save the jewish people so I can’t see him ever saying that I think it’s a lie by someone who wants to paint ron paul as a rascist.

I don’t think Jews are being exterminated in Europe any longer…

hey if you would like to see a display of Dondero character just go to http://westanddivided.blogspot.com/2007/05/dwsuwf-reader-eric-dondero-running.html

yea hes a scum bag thats trying to get back at Ron cause Ron fired his butt, for probably eh being a scum bag.

Good piece… makes him look all the more appealing.. on all three counts. It shows him as:

On Jews: consistent in rejecting militarism
On hispanics and blacks: noble and open minded considering his ignorance on their culture
On gays: ditto.. open minded and not bigoted in the least..

I wouldn’t come close or touch anything in a teenager’s, of all orientations, bathrooms with a ten foot pole either

Typical Republican anti-Semite.  At least as an atheist, Ron Paul doesn’t have to spew the “we love Israel because its destruction will bring about the Second Coming, and the Jews will be burn in hell for all eternity” nonsense.

“sharing supposed stories of how he’s allegedly an isolationist who believed the CIA knew about the 9/11 attacks”

Uhhh.  Only problem with that is that it was true.  In fact, on September 11th NORAD was running a simulated air defense attack against…wait for it…hi-jacked commercial aircraft.

From the Chicago Sun Times:

“The FBI had advance indications of plans to hijack U.S. airliners and
use them as weapons, but neither acted on them nor distributed the
intelligence to local police agencies. From the moment of the September
11 attacks, high-ranking federal officials insisted that the terrorists’
method of operation surprised them. Many stick to that story. Actually,
elements of the hijacking plan were known to the FBI as early as 1995
and, if coupled with current information, might have uncovered the
plot.”

Yes, I know it’s the FBI, not the CIA.  But if saying the CIA knew about 9/11 before it happened is a crank theory, what about the evidence that the FBI knew about (and sat on)? 

And what about this little passage from the FAA’s 2000 report on Criminal Acts Against Aviation:

“The 2000 edition of the FAA’s annual report on Criminal Acts Against
Aviation said that although Osama bin Laden ‘is not known to have
attacked civil aviation, he has both the motivation and the wherewithal
to do so,’ adding, ‘Bin Laden’s anti-Western and anti-American attitudes
make him and his followers a significant threat to civil aviation,
particularly to U.S. civil aviation.”

And then there’s this (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks_advance-knowledge_debate):

“The US administration, CIA and FBI received multiple prior warnings
from foreign governments and intelligence services, including France,
Germany, the UK, Israel, Jordan, Afghanistan, Egypt, Morocco and Russia.  The warnings varied in their level of detail, but all stated that they believed an Al Qaeda
attack inside the United States was imminent. British Member of
Parliament Michael Meacher cites these warnings, suggesting that some of
them must have been deliberately ignored.  Some of these warnings include the following:

March 2001 – Italian intelligence warns of an al Qaeda plot in the United States involving a massive strike involving aircraft, based on their wiretap of al Qaeda cell in Milan.
July 2001 – Jordanian intelligence told US officials that al-Qaeda was planning an attack on American soil, and Egyptian intelligence warned the CIA that 20 al Qaeda Jihadists were in the
United States, and that four of them were receiving flight training.
August 2001 – The Israeli Mossad gives the CIA a list of 19 terrorists living in the US and say that they appear to be planning to carry out an attack in the near future.
August 2001 – The United Kingdom is warned three times of an imminent al Qaeda attack in the United States, the third specifying multiple airplane hijackings. According to the Sunday Herald, the report is passed on to President Bush a short time later. (Ed. note: Bush was on vacation for the entire month of August, 2001.)
September 2001 – Egyptian intelligence warns American officials thatal Qaeda is in the advanced stages of executing a significant operation against an American target, probably within the US.”

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Ron Paul is a Baptist. What’s a typical Republican anti-Semite?

The USA certainly has been helpful to Israel.  We stopped them from wiping out the Syrian and Egyptian armies in 1967 and 1973, and stopped them from eliminating the PLO in Lebanon in 1980.  We complained bitterly when they destroyed Iraq’s Osirak reactor in 1981.  Left to their own devices Israel would not now face several existential threats.

Germany officially declared war on the United States.

“The Government of the United States having violated in the most
flagrant manner and in ever increasing measure all rules of neutrality
in favor of the adversaries of Germany and having continually been
guilty of the most severe provocations toward Germany ever since the
outbreak of the European war, provoked by the British declaration of war
against Germany on September 3, 1939, has finally resorted to open
military acts of aggression.

RIBBENTROP.”http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/document/DECWAR.htm–Cobra

RON PAUL 2012. FU*K THE JEWS.

James Baker will endorse Paul any second now.

Everything about this makes no sense. 

Ron Paul (despite my preference for an atheist President) is a Baptist. 
Republicans aren’t Anti-Semite. They are the ones who want to bomb every Middle Eastern country not named Israel because they might look at Israel wrong.
I don’t think most Christians look to Israel as a place the must be destroyed, nor do they revel in the idea of Jews burning in hell after the supposed Rapture. 

Ron Paul’s position on the Middle East is one of non-interventionism. It really isn’t our problem, especially now. Israel has a pretty competent military. We don’t need to play world-police.

Amazing on what paid for media will try to dig up… Come on..

the establishment is shaking in their boots because Americans finally have a candidate that will actually follow through on his promises. Let’s find a disgruntled fired employee and he will mudsling for us.. oh please.. let’s find 20 yearold papers someone stamped Paul’s name on.. Don’t let the left and right paid foir media by corporations sway your minds on this Honest man.. he is for change and EVERYONE knows it..Go with the man’s record.. listen to his words WE all HEAR. don’t let those paying off media blind you in this respect.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/JA2ehvB-_Ac
 

 Man, learn about the guy before you spew more lies like this article and disgruntled employee.. Ron is Baptist.. always been,, just because he don’t shout it to the roof tops like Mitty and others as YES Im religious..wears it on his sleeve like yes vote for me.. 

He believes in the Constitution and separation of Church and State.. learn. listen.. don’t let paid for media blind you any longer. Those corporations are the ones that fear Ron the most. Buying up as much media as possible.. surely your brighter than this? Diplomacy and peace are what America should be about.. this world domination is a corporate thing using our troops on foriegn soil for BIG money buisness.. wake up..

See Paul is running for President.. not  for Pastor of the USA.. he wants to protect our borders not “their” interests with USA blood.

Ron Paul 2012 and Beyond..

When push comes to shove Israel will stand on their own no matter what USA says. 
They are in the midst of things..and can surely take care of themselves. And that is the bottom line..  non-intervention might be the best policy in the long run. Don’t sell Israel short on power.

Why is anything which is disagreeable to Israel’s policies deemed anti-semitic. It’s like during the 2008 democratic primary, when Hilary Clinton campaign attacks on Obama was perceived by the Obama camp as racially motivated. The Jews and Blacks want to be pitied for as long as civilization exists.

You again? We thought we compressed you like the arthropod that you are. No worries. This NSA app is running on a Cray 6749. You know what those numbers mean, don’t you, OOCPH? Yep, we’re coming for you. Just look out your window. No! Stop!

Sit down, OOPCH. Come away from the window. It’s time to wash your brains — all three of them. Open up! Arrgghhhh.

I’m sorry, Dave. I can’t let you do that.

OK. Cancel the warning, OOCPH. We won’t be watching you today. And please, don’t cut up the soles of your shoes looking for bugs. We got them in your head already.

1. 2. 3. Go………..

You should probably mention that this Dondero guy ran against Paul for his Rep seat (and obviously lost) and that he supports Perry for the GOP nod.

It’s the same logic that disagreeing with President Obama means you are a racist. It is a ploy by the people in power, to discredit those they fear. The establishment is shaking in its boots right now. They don’t want a change in the status quo. They want the same middle of the road politicians, who only talk about doing things differently. They are content, kicking the can down the road and refuse to take a stand and make tough decisions because they only care about being re-elected. Maybe Rick Perry is right, and it’s time we made Congress part time so that people can’t make a career out of being a politician. 

No blood for Jews. Got it.

And they keep forgetting us poor Christians had been tossed to the lions time and time again.. yet we don’t always bring it up.. the past is the past.. never forget.. but understand people change.. and change is always for the best… We are a melting pot called America and we suppose to stand for FREEDOM.

Ron Paul is for change.. and for the freedoms our fathers wanted for ALL people.. keep that in mind while you watch the other candidates and current POTUS.. 

Ron Paul 2012 and Beyond

Ron Paul’s OWN voting record says everything you need to know about him. his OWN voting record pays homage to Jim Crow, KKK-style, and it’s also anti-women. no wonder Ron Paul is the darling of both KKK and teaparty fanatics

I take it that you’re a Jewish “atheist”. 

You sound a little obsessed.

Wow, you need meds, bro.  You sound exactly like my mother, and she’s a paranoid schizophrenic.

Operation Skunk Has Commenced

No, he’s not right.  One of the reasons we send money to other
countries (Egypt, Jordan, Mexico, etc.)  is to protect our interests, and to
prevent the outbreak of wars and terrorism, which could mean our own soldiers
would be drawn into these conflicts.  Israel is a democratically-led country
surrounded by other countries that aren’t, and is in a very important region to
us, not to mention it is the home to some of the most important religious sites
for Christians, Muslims, and Jews, which must be protected to allow tourists
(religious pilgrims) to visit.  Go to
http://www.foreignassistance.gov/CountryIntro.aspx to see how much money the
U.S. is sending to other countries.  Furthermore, Ron Paul needs to answer for
the contemptible quotes stated above.

ok, maybe your not brighter than I hoped..  ohwell..

Yes, he is right. Your opinion assumes that our aid money “protects our interests” and “protects religious tourism”. DOES our money REALLY protect our interests or just the interest of foreign leaders? Do we have the obligation to “protect” the religious sites you mentioned? We send our money to Egypt and prop up their “democratic” protests and now they have elected the Islamic Brotherhood into power and will be a fertile new breeding ground for terrorist groups. Same with Lybia… We give 10x the amount of aid to Israel’s enemies than to Israel itself. It’s schizophrenic policy and DOES NOT protect our “interests”.

Why can’t you simply understand that Paul believes only in the defense of our borders, that had we as a nation followed this simple precept as suggested by our founders we would have avoided several wars, the deaths of countless millions of people, and the imperialistic adventurism that has lead us to our current situation of bankruptcy, military installations all over the world, involvement in foreign wars that do not threaten our sovereignty or nation, and that have invited attacks to our shores by those who see us as invaders into their lands and affairs, something that the American people would ever tolerate from a foreign power, but we somehow think that they should tolerate from us because we somehow see the principles of our corrupted politicians as being superior…

Thank you *so much*, Cobra, for your well-informed post.  Either Dr. Paul or Mr. Dondero, whichever of them actually opined that we ought not to have fought against Hitler, and whichever of them imagined that we went to war with Nazi Germany to “save the Jews”, doesn’t know their history at all.  The USA did *not* go to war to save the Jews.  Germany declared war on us, not long after their ally, Japan, bombed Pearl Harbor.  Because of mis-statements like Mr. Dondero’s, and/or Dr. Paul’s, many people will be fooled into believing that we only had to fight WW II “to save the Jews”.  This mistake can lead to a new, ugly wave of anti-semitism, as we can see from reading some comments on this article.  Before people jump to any conclusions about the past, they need to study history, and a candidate for the presidency of the United States definitely needs to know our history.  It’s so easy to jump to the wrong conclusions, and there is a saying that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

It’s incredible that with the parade of Presidential clowns, we’ve gone through a succession of 5-6 ‘stars’ who have a life span of 4-8 weeks before they fade out. I had thought that Gingrich would last longer than he has, but he’s now sinking. The desperate, intellectually and morally impoverished Republicans can’t find anyone who can beat Obama.

Now we have Ron Paul who has set the rightwing world on fire, even though he, too, doesn’t have a hope in hell. But the fervor for Paul has amazed everyone. It’s becoming clear to the  majority of Americans that something has gone seriously wrong with the Republicans. They don’t have a viable economic program, they’re weighed down with a history of failure – Reagan’s trashing of  government, Bush’s disastrous and shameful Iraqi adventure and destruction of the economy, and their overall attempt now, certainly with Ron Paul, to rewrite history and hide much of the racism and bigotry that has been the backbone of their growth over the past 20-30 years. The Democrats aren’t in much better shape, but, interestingly enough, Obama still has good support and there are any number of other Democrats who are qualified to be President.

Fortunately, it looks like the jig is up and all the king’s horses, all the king’s men and all the corporate money won’t put this Republican Party back together again for at least 4 more years.

We can fantasize, can’t we?

That is crap. We are not broke financially as a nation. The return of FAIR TAXATION where the rich pay a FAIR SHARE, get rid of the OIL subsidies and penalize american companies that ship jobs overseas for profit sake would cure the AMERICAN ECONOMY.  We were just fine, until the BUSH TAX CUTS, the aim of which was to return to taxpayers the CLINTON SURPLUSES, but with the deep recession and TWO UNPAID for wars came an expansive chasm between revenues and expenses that could not be made up without raising taxes. I remember a big part of the congressional discussion leading up to the war, was the assurances by the BUSHIES that we would be greeted as liberators and the Iraqii’s would pay for the war from oil revenues. WE GOT SNOOKERED as a nation and we got the TPARTY, MURDOGS and Kochroaches that want to continue the GREAT AMERICAN CON at any cost to the american people. After all that is what is CON is all about: lie, steal, cheat, maximize the theft, then leave town with no trace. DEREGULATION on WALL STREET gave the financial sector the license to STEAL and they did. Political policies created the financial mess, there are political solutions, but the GOP/TPARTY would rather see the country go bankrupt and american children starve than have Obama succeed. Now that is EVIL.

Please, actually take the time to read http://foreignassistance.gov/CountryIntro.aspx before posting, since it spells out the reasons we send money to each country. For instance, with Egypt,  the overview states, “Egypt is a pivotal country in the Middle East and a longtime partner of
the United States. Its well-being is important for the region as a
whole. The United States has relied on Egypt for 30 years to support and
advance U.S. interests in the region, including peace with Israel,
confronting Iranian ambitions, and reintegrating Iraq into the Arab
fold. U.S. assistance to Egypt has long played a central role in Egypt’s
economic and military development, and in cementing the bilateral
partnership.”  You can’t suggest that every President, Senator, Representative, Ambassador, and National Security team member who has studied and supported this position is wrong.
 
About religious tourism – you’re joking (delusional,) right?  Millions of Christians, Muslims, and Jews travel to Israel to see the birthplace and baptism sites of Jesus, the Dome of the Rock, and the Wailing Wall, some of the most sacred sites for these religions.  People care enough about the sites to travel there, and so yes, we have an obligation to help protect American tourists and the sites in Israel.  The baptism site would be particularly difficult to visit if it was still under Arabic control.  Read more about the history of that site.  

A reminder of our interests in other countries – Oil, fighting the drug war, separating the two Koreas, protecting American businesses, and American citizens and soldiers living or stationed in other countries, humanitarian purposes, preventing the spread of diseases (which, if nothing else, could eventually harm American citizens), etc.  We can’t control the outcome of elections in Egypt or Libya, but we may have a better chance to help the opposition, and to assist democratic forces with gaining power in the future.

Ron Paul and his fellow Republicans are all Gay haters and anti-Jewish.  They can’t wait for those Satan worshiping Evangelicals to vote for them to become the new Anti-Christ that they worship. 

As you typed out this drivel, Obama JUST NOW announced he is formally seeking a 1.2 TRILLION dollar debt ceiling increase! That is FAR from success…

http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/27/news/economy/obama_debt_ceiling/

Don’t forget the support and money Ron Paul accepts’ from Stormfront and other racist organizations and has no problem with.

Your argument is becoming a tougher and tougher side to be on these days. I see you believe in it’s merits and that is commendable. I am well versed in the history of the holy lands of the middle east, however, if we, as individuals, find it important to protect these places, they should give their support individually and out of the charitable intent of their heart instead of being stolen from all American citizens (even poor ones) as a form of taxation and given the wealthy leaders of other countries.

Your’re not electing a king,Paul as Obama can do what congress allows.Campaign promises are a dime a dozen.They make them,get elected,then we get nothing but the status quo.

Very good point,I think it would be a great service too society.Lets feed the lion again.

ganymede, you apparently live in some type of universe where a person, like you, can write things on a poster page, just like this one, and “poof” all these written words are believed by all those people who happen along and read them.  In short, it’s possible that you honestly believe that you’re living in some kind of daydream world where all the rest of us have been told that we are forbidden to write countering remarks to your political gibberish.

Well, that daydream is partly true.  You remarks are so far off the chart that people, like me, with normal brain cells don’t know where to begin.  I suppose I can start by describing your remarks the way that most readers see them.  You thoughts are simply fanciful wishing on a distant star that hovers over the universe in which a person, like you, gets to live in a world filled with yellow, red and black Democratic Party hallucinations. 

You will learn this sooner or later, but ganymede, you need to know this right now: the world where you live is simply an illusion, a fanciful pipedream filled with quaint and delusionary characters with funny names - like Barack and Hussein and Obama - who have been born in distant lands not of their own making. These half white and half black people come equipt with very inventive minds which allows them to makeup stories about how brilliant they are and how big their brain cells are compared to those puny little brain cells of normal people who live in another universe.  That other universe contains people who daydream about how smart they would like to be when compared to dastardly Republicans who swarm around making noises that frightens little people who write snarky comments in little bitty spaces just like this one. . . (these remarks will be continued one of these days when I gather enough of my unused brain cells to finish what I’ve started in this little space.)

Speak for Obama, not for Paul.

That will help to pay for the eight years of Republican mismanagement.  It will take even more to dig ourselves out of the trickle down hole.

Paul wants to not only audit the FED, but take action on the various frauds being perpetrated upon us by them and their agents in Congress. Now you will see the hired guns coming out of the shadows and taking aim. This includes the media’s talking heads, the poison pen journalists, and even an occasional agent provocateur. Their dirty tricks will be revealed to all but the morons who watch television and read the “free press” accounts that amount to nought more than damage control on the stories that inevitably leak about treason and sedition within the halls and chambers of power. Heaven help the cause of liberty and national sovereignty if they try to use the “lone gunman” card, like with the two Kennedy brothers or Pim Forteyn of Holland, or perhaps the “accident” trick that got rid of Austrian Jorge Haider and Princess Diana. These people were all silenced with extreme prejudice.

Congress is already part time.  We should reduce their pay and get rid of their benefits.

I knew you had unused brain cells.  Your post reveals that.

Being opposed to Israeli policy or foreign aide to Israel or questioning the validity of Israel’s existence  is not anti-jewish.  Ask the  Nutra Kartai Jews, who denounce the State of Israel.

I’m sick of hearing the old trick word “ANTISEMITIC”.  There are whole segments if the Jewish population that are from the Pontic steppes of the Caucausus and they don’t have Shemitic bloodlines, but the Arabs, Iraqis, Lebanese, Syrians, Libyans, Yemani, and Egyptians are all Semites.

Are the Ashkanaz Jews trying to give themselves a transfusion of Shemitic blood by constantly screaming “Antisemitic” every time someone says something they disagree with.
 
Here is the inside scoop from a former Israeli minister on the use of the term “Antisemitic”!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUGVPBO9_cA

Argeed!

LOL! Agreed, rather!

AIPAC is in almost all of congresses pockets. The First Amendment grants all citizens the right to petition the U.S. government, and this applies to AIPAC as much as anyone else. However, Paul opposes certain lobbying groups having more of an undue influence than others, and since one of the main purposes of AIPAC is to lobby for generous taxpayer subsidies to Israel, that portion of their influence would end under a Paul administration.

FDR didn’t give a crap about the Jews, he was anti-Semitic himself, he had opportunities to bomb the rails that where taking Jews and others to the concentration camps yet he refused. Ron Paul needs a history lesson.
libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com

As usual, the ignorance of your comment is only exceeded by the arrogance of it’s presentation.

EPIC FAIL

 Isn’t it funny how, when Ron Paul was the darling of the teabaggers and his son was running for Senate on the GOP ticket, that none of this was made an issue by the media? It’s only now that he threatens Mittens’ chances that they have a problem with this. When he was of use to the right, they ignored all of his hateful past.

The degree and depth of this Repug train wreck beggar the mind. The RePugs look, act, and sound retarded. Over and over they fall for ploys that are 100 years old (literally).All due to their vainglorious pursuit of the little  black man in the white house. They remind me of Wiley E. Coyote,no matter how many times he suffered for want of the road runner, he begged for more and with gusto. We are looking at an Obama re-election with the House returning to the Dems in progress. How is this possible that a supposed major party can become so ass backwards? It’s like your parakeet taking control of your house. Obama has become the tea bagging GnOP’s Moby Dick. Good Luck this time, cap’n!

I watch in satisfaction at the dying gasps of you inbred hillbilly’s. The 1950′s are over, the youth are not buying your racist bs. How far do you think this bullshit’s gonna fly with the ever increasing  OWS rebels, asshole? Soon my 11yr. old son will only be able to see freaks like you in a museum. In the mean  time, show some respect for  you black POTUS, Kock sucker!

That’s interesting. But does that effect the body of his testimony?

Some Americans believe the “founding fathers” were murderous, slave owning rapist. F^ck the founding Fathers. They burn in hell,along with all the other debased reprobate daughters-of-bitches. They are your demi-gods! As far the ‘freedom for all”,that they wanted. Sir, you are a buck tooth damn liar!

YES, he is right!!! I am so damn sick of our pockets being picked by foreigners. This is the United States of America, not the United States of Israel!  Too many non-Americans dictate who gets our money!  Israel has over 300 nuclear war heads, why do they need any more?

Ron Paul is telling the truth. We do not need to borrow money from China to send to Israel. We need to keep it here.  Is it so wrong to have a president who cares about
Americans over any other country.

You dirty stinkin’ neo cons can kiss the fire in Hades!

The Ashkanaz discriminate against the Sephardic Jews. They have their own caste system

AMEN!

Tell me Bill what does disagreeing with the Pres. have to do with his birth cert? How about his school recs.? How about his religion or lack of it? Bottom line to the teabaggers, irrelevant BS will be called out for what it is. Don’t like it stay on topic, come up with some IDEAS, plead you case like a man!

You mean, the computer or micro-chip don’t you. Man, you be a nut!

Sorry to hear that Hk, but at least she has an excuse.

KR, he also believes in ghosts, like the ones that were writing his news letter for years. So you can say the good Dr. is a “superstitious atheist”. Or you can just say he’s a flake.

I agree. And to do this…I would begin to reduce the money that is given to Israel each year**. Which now is about $3 Billion, several years ago it was $10 Billion. In addition to this money there is also a “DOD” expense so they can buy the latest planes, etc

** I would begin doing this for every settlement built for Jews in the West Bank they’d have their $3 billion reduced by $200 million for each settler. I’d also include the tearing down of Palestinian homes in Jerusalem..for that I’d take away $500 million each time.

We need a President that can stand up to Israel. The last time we had one was Eisenhower told Israel to get the hell out of the Suez Canal.

Basically that $3 Billion comes out to be we are giving Israelis $2,000 each. We are supporting a nation that has a higher standard of living than many of the Eastern European nations and even Portugal. We don’t give those nations any money. Time to end our payments to Israel. One point that you might find strange. They want their payments in one lump some in January in Euro’s not American Dollars.

True.  They are  remarkably close to the Hindus in their thinking.  Check out the Shas party and the teachings of Rabbi Ovediah Yossef.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/12/20/israeli-rabbi-who-teaches-that-non-jews-are-to-serve-jews-sets-up-shop-in-us/

Funny thing is that the Sephardi and the Mizrahi Jews are true Semitic Jews.

The Ashkanaz / Khazar Jews covet Semitic blood.

How dare you! I am not buck tooth.. and you leave my one tooth alone by god or I will gum the hell out of ya! ahh.. ya feel better getting that off your chest? I know I sure do..

Now back to Ron Paul..the only candidate willing to save America from America!

Ron Paul 2012 and Beyond..

On Israel and foreign policy Dondero is probably a biased witness; as per Jake Witmer’s comment to the (recently updated) Warren Redlich’s article “Eric Dondero and the Myth of the Pro-Defense Libertarian” originally dated by 2010, he was either fired or left the campaign “right after Dondero had issued a bunch of pro-war statements on Paul’s behalf”. He certainly has his own agenda although his account does not seem to be fully fake. Essentially, if you ignore the foreign-policy and Israel-related part of the facts (biased, IMO) the rest of the story seems to be in line with other known information — at that there is nothing there that would prevent me from voting for Paul.

As for the Ron Paul’s views on Israel, IMO nothing elucidates them better than his masterful, both very respectful and competent essay on Zionism in his “Liberty Defined” book. I hope no reader can interpret this complete and logical writing as that the author “wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all. ” — in Dondero’s words.

Why can’t we create a society so that we can all get our teeth fixed? Fixing teeth is basically craft work. A person could fill teeth and install implants with a little bit of vocational training.  You would just need a dentist around to deal with medical questions

I’ve heard that politicians are frantically passing legislation such as the “1.2 Trillion Dollar Debt Ceiling Increase” because of an impending reform in government. Perhaps politicians on Capitol Hill fear that new management (e.g., Ron Paul) will put an end to money laundering. That’s why we’ve seen an increase in counterproductive legislation.

It’s not the same logic. Plenty of people who are absolutely not racists disagree with Obama. On the other hand, all critics of Israeli policy are tarred with the anti-Semitic brush. Also, there is nothing inherently wrong with questioning whether this or that state is legitimate. The US does it all the time. States come and states go throughout history and the people stay. To argue that Israel is an apartheid state which is illigimate (which I don’t necessarily agree to) is not in and of itself anti-Semitic.

Maybe it will be in Obamacare that will cost us all about 500-1000.00 per month?
 
We see how ell everyone having auto insurance kept those prices down… sigh..

I want to opt out..I only got one tooth I can pull on my own later down the road.

Oh wait..it would another one of those Federal laws.. YOU MUST!! or we will jail you and take all your personal property!!!!!

Gotta love a FREE country..

Please do RESEARCH before spouting off. From the government site I keep trying to get you to actually try reading from, you will see more money has been sent to Afghanistan, and tens of billions more of U.S. money is sent to other countries around the world.  Your disgusting problem with Israel is your own sickness. Find the list of contributors for each of the 535 members of Congress before making libelous comments. And don’t ever think you can win an argument about where taxpayer money should go – I am positive there are programs you would support that I would not want funded under any circumstances.  And according to the latest Gallup, CNN, ABC, and CBS polls, Ron Paul will not be the Republican nominee.

Look, aside from the fact he’s a fringe loon, the guy is clearly a bigot..  You cannot claim you didn’t know what was in your own news letter – period!

anyone who defends him is pathetic.. the writings on the wall.  Hey I’d love him to be the gop nom, Obama would win all 50 states… but Paul is not presidential material.. he’s a nut, a fringe, and a loon.

end of story.

The more that is put up front concerning Paul, the more I understand why I have had some very deep misgivings about Ron Paul.  It is bad enough to know that Paul is an isolationist, but learning more about his thoughts and actions cause me great concern with his claims of being a Christian with his fruit of the spirit some rotten fruit.

Caroline, first up the medicine dosage (sure you’ve been told that before.)

Then read http://foreignassistance.gov/CountryIntro.aspx to begin to understand where U.S. money goes, and the reasons we support other countries (HINT: it helps protect us within our borders, and protects U.S. citizens and soldiers traveling or living in other countries.)  For example, in 2011 (not full amounts of money donated):

Angola – $61 million
Angola is one of three countries in Africa that maintains a Strategic Partnership Dialogue with the United States. It is the largest exporter of oil on the African continent. U.S. assistance will focus on malaria and HIV/AIDS prevention and treatment … (helps to prevent the spread of the disease to Americans.)

Brazil – $23 million
U.S. assistance will help to develop a deeper partnership with Brazil,
enhancing cooperation on transnational challenges that are mutual vital
interests, such as the environment, security, health, food security, and
other social concerns.

Colombia – $443 million
Programs will seek to achieve several goals that are vital to the United
States and Colombia’s mutual national security interests, including
creating jobs and economic opportunities, increasing security and state
presence, protecting human rights, and enhancing Colombian-led drug
interdiction and eradication programs.

Egypt – $1.7 billion

Ethiopia – $519 million

Nigeria – $632.4 million

Indonesia – $206 million
As Indonesia takes on a greater international role, it faces persistent
domestic development issues, uneven benefits from democratic and
economic advances, new institutions that are fragile and under threat,
and risks from the impact of climate change and environmental
degradation. The recently announced United States-Indonesia
Comprehensive Partnership recognizes Indonesia’s leadership role
throughout the region and the importance it plays in issues of global
significance.

Iraq – $472 million

Pakistan – $1.4 billion

South Africa – $571 million
Improving the capacity of its security force will enable South Africa
to take a lead role in United Nations and African Union regional
stability and security, including in Zimbabwe, the Democratic Republic
of the Congo, Madagascar, Sudan, and Cote d’Ivoire.

Tanzania – $502 million

The homophobic comment is easily defended, via, the stigma attached to the relationship between AIDS and homosexuality. Back then, people were not very well informed on how it was spread. Hell most people didn’t even think straight people could get AIDS. One of the reasons why many celebrities who died of the disease then, their COD was never really announced. So, Paul being nervous about using facilities belonging to a gay guy (back then) is rational from the existing paranoia (not malice,) and does not necessarily mean he hates gays or doesn’t want them afforded equal rights. 

About anti-semitism, I have found personally that if you do not support 100% of what the Jewish lobby wants, it means you are ‘anti-semitic.’ Quite the sophomoric assessment in my opinion, and short sighted. One may support Israel and the Jewish people, but, one may not always agree on how to channel or express that support. It is unfair for Paul to be judged negatively about this. I truly believe that Israel has enough resources to take care of itself. We sure can help them if that help is requested, but, we do not have to subsidize their livelihood….if that makes any sense. I personally feel this is just used to demagogue people for politically (opportunistic) reasons.

This is exactly what the “isolationits” said when Japan invaded Manchuria in 1931 and Germany invaded Austria in 1936.  We do not have the money!  “We should be focusing on saving OUR nation and OUR people.”  We did nothing.  After the deaths of millions, when it became clear that we could no longer pretend that we had nothing to fear from our enemies, The rape of Nanking (1937) had occurred, the Holocaust was well under way and we were forced into a war where we lost many thousands more servicemen than would have been lost had we engaged the enemy earlier.  I will only judge Congressman Ron Paul what I hear him say myself, and there is no question that he has the same views as the isolationists of the 1930s.

The Jews are not being exterminated in Europe, because the allies won World War II and crushed the facists  Many Jews moved to Israel after it was founded in 1948.  Many Arab countries and Iran (Persians) would like to have another genocide and run them out of Israel today.  People who share your views provide them with aid and comfort.

We should always be prepared to prevent a genocide!  Presidrnt Clinton did it in Kosovo in 1999 with no loss of american troops.

TMI !

Be careful what you say about the Jews!  The real Knut Rockne would not want anybody borrowing his name to spew forth venom and hatred.  Change yout user name to Adolf_Hitler!

Congressman Ron Paul is one of the most complex candidates I have ever seen campaign for President.  His domestic policies are outstanding.  His foreign policies are very naiive and dangerous!  If only we had the technology to cut him in half, I would be happy to vote for the 50% of Ron Paul which includes his domestic policies.  We could then cut Senator Rick Santorum in half and I would vote for the 50% of him which includes his foriegn policies.  It would ba Paul/Santorum ticket with Michele Bachmann as VP just to keep them in balance!

Hello Tennessee,
  You need to know more information before spewing the wrong info. The Iranians and Arabs do NOT hate the Jews. They are people of the book. What the Arabs & Persians don’t like about the Israelis is how they are treating the Palestinians.

Please check Wiki and see just who are people of the book.

And here I thought that Lebanon was a Democracy. and Egypt is moving in that direction.
And Jordan isn’t a threat to them. Why is it fair for foreiners are allowed to go to Al Aqsa Mosque when the Palestinians can’t go there freely.

We also tell the Israelis to stop building in the West Bank but they don’t listen. What we should do is to start taking $10,000,000 for each settler in the West Bank, and $250,000,000 off when they decide to tear down a Palestinians home in East Jerusalem.

Great link! That’s very useful information.

Dale, While I appreciate the gentlemanliness of your comments, it would help if you gave me more of an idea why you think I live in a daydream world of illusion. I’m a very active working senior citizen in NYC and I follow closely the political and social scene in our country, and have been told many times that I have good political judgment and am more accurate than most in my predictions and assessments. Please excuse my arrogance, but I would like to know where you think I’m in error. My basic thesis is that the poltical situation in America stinks and the rightwing and the type of money behind the rightwing is more responsible for our downward slide than the Democrats. Obama has been a disappointment but the Republicans are infinitely worse. and deserve to totally tossed out of power until they grow up and get some commonsense. People are suffering needlessly here and abroad because of our rightwing ideology. The Social democratic ideas of the left  seem to work fairly well in many countries, even in the midst of a serious economic slowdown. People in Canada and most of western and northern Europe think we’re a bunch of saps to accept the third  rate political situation we’re enduring. That’s why I said that the Republicans look like they’re going to lose bigtime next November because people will want to get rid of the Congressional naysayers and give Obama and the Democrats a real chance to implement change and progress. Now doesn’t that make sense?

Please try to post before happy hour!

What about the UK? I don’t think they have dentists yet, do they?

This nation is not broke. It is political policies that have driven America into the financial hole it is digging out of. Those policies include: The Bush tax cuts to refund the non existant Clinton surpluses, Deregulation of WALL STREET which set the hustlers free to rob the american people and the world of billions, no trillions of dollars and the american corporations shipping jobs overseas, all the while getting subsidies for their operations from american taxpayers. That is the facts. There is no dispute. TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS does not work and until 30 years ago,before the NEOCONs, the american middle class was thriving, was creative and was working. It was deliberate, calculated and malicious political policies that have brought us to this point. Obama is trying to avoid another republican faux financial crisis by giving notice to raise the debt ceiling. He has finally learned that you cannot negotiate with people who would rather let 300 mn suffer, than to see him succeed. He will use whatever the law allows for him to do his job and I agree with his new tact.

I think he’s probably right. The Prez can only accomplish so much without the cooperation of congress. I’m not sure Paul has a lot of support from the career politicians who control congress. The system is broken and we can’t fix it because we keep electing the same old faces to play the same old games. Cleaning out congress should be our first priority.

Oh oh oh! Where do I sign up for CIA school? I’ve always thought I’d make a good spy.

Yeah, kind of a whacko trifecta! Or maybe an unholy trinity.

Well you might as well let Ron Paul stand on his own words instead of these nameless allegations.

The United States was attacked during WW2 and war was declared.
Ron Paul has stated that in those circumstances, war would be “all out”
and fought to win. The main point is that Ron Paul doesn’t support
fighting quagmire wars against guerrillas for years on end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4X5u9m2g48

6/14/11 Article, San Francisco Chronicle:
Hezbollah and its allies rose to a position of unprecedented dominance
in Lebanon’s government Monday, giving its patrons Syria and Iran
greater sway in the Middle East … Opponents of Hezbollah – which the United States considers a terrorist
organization – say having it in control of Lebanon’s government could
lead to international isolation. The group’s most ardent supporters are
Iran and Syria, which dominated Lebanon for 29 years.
http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-06-14/news/29655596_1_syrian-influence-hezbollah-smaller-neighbor

3/1/11 Headline, Voice of America:
“Democracy in Jordan Not a Simple Matter”
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/Democracy-in-Jordan-is-Not-a-Simple-Matter-117146738.html

Sovereign nations have the right to protect their citizens. 
It is the height of arrogance for an American to argue about land claims in other countries, while in the U.S., Native Americans are still filing claims for what they consider their own land. By your logic, we owe Native Americans an huge amount of more money. 
11/21/11 Article, Press Democrat, “Pomo leaders seek halt to construction on Clear Lake island”
12/17/11 Article, Piedmont Patch, “Supporters of Native American Group March, Protest in Piedmont”
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20111121/ARTICLES/111129930
http://piedmont.patch.com/articles/holder-title-photos-from-native-american-group-march#photo-8733889

Instead of using Wiki (unreliable) as a source, back up your own “spewing” with actual facts, and news sources.

5/21/06 Article, Washington Post – “This Is a Saudi Textbook. (After the intolerance was removed.)”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/19/AR2006051901769.html

Hateful comments by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran:
http://www.adl.org/main_International_Affairs/ahmadinejad_words.htm

Interesting note – In The Telegraph (UK) article of 10/09, the headline read, “Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Revealed to Have Jewish Past.” The President of Iran’s family was Jewish before converting to Islam. 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6256173/Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-revealed-to-have-Jewish-past.html

That’s my point. I’m not saying they are racist. I;m saying that’s what the media and people on the other side will say to discredit you if you disagree with Obama, or question his grades. Didn’t the left spend countless hours debating President Bush’s Yale education? They talked about how he only got in because of Daddy, and he was a poor student who was too busy doing cocaine. The left is hypocritical. It is totally acceptable for them to be critical, but as soon as somebody on the right does it they go into attack mode. 

LMAO… I won’t bother arguing this…comparing apples and oranges.  I am still waiting for the part where you give a valid argument on why we need to protect Israel. 

Illogic -

So let the $43 billion (U.S. aid in 2008) given to other countries slide by, but instead you obsess about Israel?
 
- Jesus’ birthplace; for religious reasons, millions of American Christians (Republicans) support the protection of Israel

- An ally in eliminating threats to the U.S. (think Pakistan also); in ’81 and ’07, Israel destroyed nuclear facilities in Iraq and Syria, two countries that posed a threat to “international peace and security”

‘His foreign policies are very naiive and dangerous! ‘ 

troops and CIA think different, watch this vid:

You Like Ron Paul, Except on Foreign Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo

Obama’s Arab Spring is taking over the job.

Hahaha…what country was there before Israel was formed in 1948?

Like the prions that took over and ate out your brain?

No they don’t, that is such rubbish. Sure people within groups tend to favor their own but to imply it’s racism or caste is garbage

“The Ashkanaz / Khazar Jews covet Semitic blood.”
Jew hater alert!

What Paul said was specious nonsense, We entered WW ll because the Nazis declared war on us & the UK was our closest ally. It had nothing to do with saving Jews, though naturally most Jews were pleased when we did finally enter the war, 27 months after it started.

Yup, the freedom to keep slaves

It goes a little farther than that., Why would RP even say something stupid like stopping the Holocaust was not a reason to get into WW ll, when it never was a reason to begin with? Why would he kick around the Jews did 9/11 meme? Sure one can be against Israeli policies and be totally philosemitic or even Jewish, but he goes well beyond it by saying Israel shouldn’t exist.

If we had backed Free Europe, say before Munich, we could have forced a war then on more favorable terms or even caused the German generals to sack Hitler. Just think no Holocaust, no tens of millions more war deaths, no subsequent Iron Curtain

While I agree that aid to Israel should be trimmed, Paul doesn’t even believe Israel should exist.

A lot of RP types believe it was the Jews who started WW ll to begin with since they control all the nations. The poor Germans were merely fighting back against the Judeo-Bolsheviks, who were hell bent on exterminating them.

We need to support Israel, because that is what allies are for!  We support each other.  America never would have won its independence from Great Britain had we not formed an alliance with France.  Have you ever heard of NATO?  It is an compised of allies to help each other.  Be good to your friends.  Crush your enemies. The world will be a better place.

Israel would shed its blood for the United States!  We need allies who will do the same and many, England and other members of NATO included, are prepared to support us. You do not betray your friends!

The British Mandate for Palestine!  Britain governed this area after World War I when the Ottoman Empire was dissolved.  The United Nations approved of a partition of Palestine as the Brits were leaving after World War II.  There was to be a homeland  for the Palestinians and aa homeland for the Jews.  The Jews accepted he partition.  The Arabs did not and declared war. The Jews won and the State of Israel was born.

So a group of people were taken off their land and that was mandated by a another country a thousand miles away? Ron Paul huh?

Why does a website, owned and maintained by our lying government, somehow give credibility to our lying government? The Feds can SAY anything they want. What the TRUTH is may or may not be the same thing.

Paul is an idiot. FYI The USA got into WWII because of Pear Harbor and Britain and Europe were losing the war. It obviously was NOT to save the Jews since 6 million were slaughtered and it was the Russians that liberated the camps.He has made so many other absurd statements he is just shy of being a lunatic. Just was we need as a President…. 

The Romans expelled the Jews and renamed the area Syria Palestina (or Palestine for short) after a pirate band of pagan (likely Greek) origins who had settled on the coast in what is now Gaza. There has been a continuous Jewish presence in the land since but no Jewish sovereignty until 1948. The British plan was to divide Palestine into an Arab state and a Jewish state. They carved the Arab state of Jordan out of Palestine (80% of its population is Palestinian Arab), but the Arabs still rejected a Jewish state. The remaining territory was further divided, and when the State of Israel was declared, the Arab states attacked.

If the Arabs put down their weapons and stopped launching rockets and sending suicide bombers, we could have a peace agreement in no time. If the Jews put down their weapons, the Arabs would annihilate them–just as they launched pogroms against Jews before there was a state of Israel at all.

What gives England that right? Also, you should look into the terrorist campaign of 1947 led by Jews to expell Arabs from Jerusalem.

Isn’t this the fellow who ran against Ron Paul in a GOP primary after working for him?  And wouldn’t he have told all this then to the Texas Monthly and other local publications?  And if it were true wouldn’t they have reported it?

ummm don’t understand your point. Much like I  think you don’t understand what the debt ceiling actually is.