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Glenn Beck Blames Evils Of Slavery On Government Regulation

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by Colby Hall | 8:10 am, October 4th, 2010

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Last Friday, while the cable news world watched Rick Sanchez’s career end in a spectacular crash via an undisciplined and unhinged radio interview, Glenn Beck was blaming the evils of slavery on government regulation, then asked if, via increased insurance rates, “are we creating slaves?” Only in the tortured and hyperbolic world of opinion media can one be expected to hear this sort of analysis.

Mr. Beck was criticizing President Obama‘s efforts to reform health care, legitimately criticizing increased insurance rates as a by-product of the reform bill passed last spring. But as Mr. Beck got deep into a metaphor of “enslaving people” with health care, somehow things took a dramatic turn toward lunacy. At one point he claimed that slavery “started with seemingly innocent ideas” and then “the government began to regulate things,” then finished by asking if, by reforming health care, “are we creating slaves”?

Beck opened the following segment by stating, “We are enslaving people with our health insurance and driving the cost of our health insurance up.” He then went down a rabbit hole of American slavery, how it started with “seemingly good intentions” then got much worse, ostensibly due to government regulation. Really.

The President is exactly right when he said ‘slaves sitting around the campfire didn’t know when slavery was going to end, but they knew that it would. And it took a long time to end slavery.’ yes it did. But it also took a long time to start slavery.

And it started small, and it started with seemingly innocent ideas. And then a little court order here, and a court order there and a little regulation here and a little more regulation there. And before we knew it, America had slavery.

It didn’t come over in a ship to begin with, as an evil slave trade. The government began to regulate things because the people needed answers and needed solutions. It started in a court room then it went to the legislatures. That’s how slavery began. And it took a long time to enslave an entire race of people, and convince another race of people that they were somehow or another, less than them. But it can be done.

I would ask you to decide, are we freeing slaves? Or are we creating slaves? That’s a question that must be answered.

There have been some who have thought that Beck’s wild successes in the last year might have made him soft in his anti-Obama rhetoric, perhaps evidenced by the relatively politicals-free atmosphere of this 8-28 rally (which he had encouraged). But the following audio clip reminds us that Mr. Beck is still willing to make any metaphor necessary to get his point across, even if some will see it as offensive. H/T Media Matters

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felixw

People will play the race card at Beck and every other Republicans. But if you want to see which group of Americans apparently votes based on skin color, check out this article.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/10/obama-approval-gallup-blacks.html
kenm

Colby, you find it offensive to suggest that slavery could not have happened without the iterative sanctioning of government legislatures? Beck seems to suggest that something as evil as slavery does not just happen overnight, but can be arrived at over time, built upon a foundation of somewhat less-evil ideas and intentions.

“even if some will see it as offensive”

That is your strawman statement since it is you that obviously finds what he said offensive. So what is it that you find offensive? American history is strewn with incidents in which laws and regulations led to unintended evils.
Colby Hall

because I point out that some will see it as offensive doesn’t mean that I see it as offensive. I see it as a hyperbolic metaphor – as I say so in the piece.

it is rather absurd to claim that slavery started with a seemingly innocent idea but somehow got worse via government regulation. don’t you think?
Hugo Daun

Colby Hall said:
it is rather absurd to claim that slavery started with a seemingly innocent idea but somehow got worse via government regulation.

If Beck said it, it MUST be true!
http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

Well, let’s try to out crazy Beck on a Monday:

College football is slavery. Coaches, networks and schools all enriched from the indentured labor of the unpaid athletes who are kept chained to the gridiron by the shackle of an easily revocable scholarship and prohibited from earning any income independent of the plantation…re…college. These slave/athletes are told where and when to sleep, where and what to eat and who they can associate with. The schools claim that the “education,” room and board are compensation for the slave/athletes, but they keep none of it and it has zero value to the slave/athlete since it remains the property of the plantation/school.

There – makes Beck look almost rational.
Pablo

He then went down a rabbit hole of American slavery, how it started with “seemingly good intentions” then got much worse, ostensibly due to government regulation. Really.

How could anyone possible use slavery as any sort of touchstone about what’s happening in America today?

“People are frustrated, they’re anxious, they’re scared about the future. And they have a right to be impatient about the pace of change. I’m impatient,” President Obama said at an event for Gen44. “It took time to free the slaves.”

Oh.

But as Mr. Beck got deep into a metaphor of “enslaving people” with health care, somehow things took a dramatic turn for lunacy.

It isn’t a metaphor.
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

The first slave owners were progressives. They built their empire on the backs of slaves and the poor. All for the sake of progress…
Pablo

Colby Hall said:
because I point out that some will see it as offensive doesn’t mean that I see it as offensive. I see it as a hyperbolic metaphor – as I say so in the piece.

it is rather absurd to claim that slavery started with a seemingly innocent idea but somehow got worse via government regulation. don’t you think?

Is it? How did it start?
The_Reasonable_Lib

Burnnotice said:
The first slave owners were progressives. They built their empire on the backs of slaves and the poor. All for the sake of progress…

Yeah, evil progressives like George Washington and other founding fathers!!! Dumbass!!!
The_Reasonable_Lib

This is by far the most uninformed, historically negligible, idiotic statements that this man has ever made. You can’t blame government for the actions of human beings. I’m also eagerly awaiting the “the started slavery in Africa” comment so that I can destroy that argument as well.
Pablo

Try looking up “indentured servitude”, TRL. You might learn something.
Azarkhan

…In fact, it is precisely younger Americans who should be most distressed by Obama’s agenda and governing choices as president: Their future is at stake, and they are on the losing end of his key policies.

To begin with, the debt we are amassing will have to be shouldered by the young throughout their working lives. President Obama has added nearly $3 trillion to that debt in his first two years in office (after his predecessor had added more than $4 trillion in his eight years). And Obama’s budget would add a total of more than $11 trillion over just the next decade. By the time today’s young workers are at the peak of their working lives, America’s national debt will equal more than 200 percent of our GDP (up from roughly 60 percent today), according to the Congressional Budget Office. Today’s young voters will be left with the bill, but without many of the benefits of that spending…

Both the Social Security and Medicare trust funds are projected to be depleted long before today’s young workers retire, and the resulting drain on general government revenue will squeeze out other programs and require colossal tax increases.

Rather than address these problems, President Obama and the Congress have chosen to pile an enormous new entitlement program atop them. The health care bill enacted in March is a massive transfer of wealth from people at the beginning of their working lives to (generally much wealthier) people toward the end of their working lives. Beyond the sheer cost of its new system of subsidies, the law strictly limits the difference between insurance premiums paid by 18-year-olds and those paid by 64-year-olds—despite enormous differences in health care costs between the young and the old. It therefore makes health insurance far more expensive for younger people while compelling them to buy it. It is also slated to increase overall national health care spending, which will of course be borne by today’s young taxpayers in the coming decades….

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/war-young

I wouldn’t call it slavery. Debt bondage is a more accurate term.
possibly

Time and time again, Fox through their surrogate Glenn Beck plays the race card. Fox news is bad for America.
Calvin

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Yeah, evil progressives like George Washington and other founding fathers!!! Dumbass!!!

Of all of the founding fathers, only George Washington actually freed his slaves. In the words of one scholar, “it was the last and greatest debt he owed to his honor.” Not only did he free them, but he also rejected explicit racist language concerning innate inferiority of blacks and did not dismiss the idea of free blacks living in the United States in harmony with whites.

http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/henriques/hist615/gwslav.htm
lonestar77

Lefty Beck haters like Colby have no sense of history. Their sense of history began when their Messiah, Obama was elected. Instead of challenging Beck on the facts, he plays the race card. “Some may find it offensive”. Yeah, well, I find you offensive, Colby, therefore you’re a racist bigoted homophobic person who likes to beat up old lady’s. Yep, playing the ism card is easy. No wonder you lefty elitists do it sooooooooo often.
lonestar77

^ladies
writer

It’s just a coincidence that Colby only seems to notice ‘hyperbolic metaphors’ when they come from white people.
http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

Hmmm. Slavery started? Let’s see. I am thinking 3,000 BC. Maybe earlier. Jews enslaved by Pharaoh. Maybe Pharaoh was a progressive. Makes sense unless Pharaoh was an early ancestor of plantation boss/college football coach Nick Saban.

What next, death camps for late payments? Maybe some good old chain gangs for the uninsured.

The amazing level of the hyperbole is ludicrous. Now things are just being said to further inflame the already overheated debate. This is the real problem – irrational fiery rhetoric for the sake of the rhetoric. Has it occurred to anyone that that Beck, Olbermann and the rest of the talking head demolition crew are just keeping everyone angry at everyone else do they can rack up the ratings? Did it not occur to anyone that these folks are using all of us to make a dollar off contrived fear?

Take out the contrived fear and we have no use or time for the Becks and Olbermanns. Take out the cooked up hate and anger and the cable pundocracy is suddenly pointless. Slaves? Possibly. But not to any government. Nope. Slaves to the talking heads that are using us to make their fame and fortune. Slaves to Fox and MSNBC. Blindly accepting every word they say and marching in lockstep to the edge of whatever cliff they point us at.

Sure, this administration is racking up the debt and doing stuff that looks awful, but so did the last guy. What has changed is the volume and anger of the rhetoric. It was bad enough when Democrats spent 8 years challenging Bush’s legitimacy and calling him all kinds of names. Now the table has turned and so have the roles. Republicans are challenging Obama’s legitimacy and calling him names. One constant as an example – president as Hitler.

http://www.itisnotagame.com
MediaWhore

I’m pretty sure if you buy more gold, all that slavery will magically disappear.
DEFENDER-90

@ the-reasonable-lib. “You cant blame government for the actionis of human beings”–NURMBERG trials.
VRWC Destruction Machine

Pablo said:
It isn’t a metaphor.

Creating a class of government dependents who rely on government entitlements is a form of slavery. That’s how the former Soviet Union enslaved its people by forcing them to accept the nanny state bureaucracy.
Calvin

Keeva said:
Republicans are challenging Obama’s legitimacy and calling him names. One constant as an example – president as Hitler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfcRv1ZS-PA
The_Reasonable_Lib

Pablo said:
Try looking up “indentured servitude”, TRL. You might learn something.

I know what indentured servitude is, jack@$$. You understand the difference between the two, right? You understand that the majority of indentured servants never fulfilled their contract and that those who did rarely recieved their compensation, correct? That indentured servitude, right? You understand that there was no mention of slavery in the constitution, right? So how can this man who claims so much knowledge about the constitution ignore this basic fact?
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Yeah, evil progressives like George Washington and other founding fathers!!! Dumbass!!!

Strike a nerve there Mr. Progressive??? LOL you are no Liberal. I am though. True Liberals are conservative in nature. they like things left alone. Green and all. You know? Progressives like you just want to rip up our beautiful countryside and put up buildings and parking lots on the backs of the poor. So they can have their elites life and live in their Million Dollar Condos in your beloved concrete empire…..
The_Reasonable_Lib

Burnnotice said:
Strike a nerve there Mr. Progressive??? LOL you are no Liberal. I am though. True Liberals are conservative in nature. they like things left alone. Green and all. You know? Progressives like you just want to rip up our beautiful countryside and put up buildings and parking lots on the backs of the poor. So they can have their elites life and live in their Million Dollar Condos in your beloved concrete empire…..

I’m liberal in the modern sense, you’re liberal in the classical sense. Two different definitions, one word. Your statement contradicts itself because you fail to make that distinction. And please explain to me how exactly I wish to do that since you are so in my head, I would love to hear about it.
The_Reasonable_Lib

lonestar77 said:
Lefty Beck haters like Colby have no sense of history. Their sense of history began when their Messiah, Obama was elected. Instead of challenging Beck on the facts, he plays the race card. “Some may find it offensive”. Yeah, well, I find you offensive, Colby, therefore you’re a racist bigoted homophobic person who likes to beat up old lady’s. Yep, playing the ism card is easy. No wonder you lefty elitists do it sooooooooo often.

Perhaps you should explain history to us then. I’ll wait for your response.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

Colby Hall says: “it is rather absurd to claim that slavery started with a seemingly innocent idea but somehow got worse via government regulation. don’t you think?”

Beck makes a living off absurd claims, Colby. It’s hard to choose on, but he said that the Tea Party has “new” ideas that are 150 years old. He said this!

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/08/beck-tells-president-that-tea-party-has.html

So many absurd claims, so little time. I’m still troubled and baffled at how he has a following of dozens, much less millions. Are American people really that stupid to believe the nonsense that he spews?

Sadly, yes.
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I’m liberal in the modern sense, you’re liberal in the classical sense. Two different definitions, one word. Your statement contradicts itself because you fail to make that distinction. And please explain to me how exactly I wish to do that since you are so in my head, I would love to hear about it.

Well I would love to but you see i take offence to people who call me offensive names.

Modern Liberal , Ok you must mean Progressive…
alamo2

Burnnotice said:
The first slave owners were progressives. They built their empire on the backs of slaves and the poor. All for the sake of progress…

That is one of the more idiotic, insane posts on here. Where did you come up witha that?

While Beck laughs all the way to the bank with his moronic bombasts, fools like you swallow every word he says.
alamo2

lonestar77 said:
Lefty Beck haters like Colby have no sense of history. Their sense of history began when their Messiah, Obama was elected. Instead of challenging Beck on the facts, he plays the race card. “Some may find it offensive”. Yeah, well, I find you offensive, Colby, therefore you’re a racist bigoted homophobic person who likes to beat up old lady’s. Yep, playing the ism card is easy. No wonder you lefty elitists do it sooooooooo often.

Another moronic statement that makes absolutely not sense. You sound like you have lost your temper and are screaming any foolish thing you can think of. Grow up.
The_Reasonable_Lib

Burnnotice said:
Well I would love to but you see i take offence to people who call me offensive names.

Modern Liberal , Ok you must mean Progressive…

Whatever label you want to put on it, my friend. It carries no negative connotation to me.
And from an anthropological standpoint I mean liberal. The modern usage of the term liberal applies to anybody who leans to the left of the political spectrum. Since I live in modern times, this is what applies. But as I said, whatever you want to call it is fine, I’m not defined by you preference.
The_Reasonable_Lib

alamo2 said:
Another moronic statement that makes absolutely not sense. You sound like you have lost your temper and are screaming any foolish thing you can think of. Grow up.

I’m going to paraphrase a little kanye west here; “They still won’t grow up, they’re some grown @$$ kids!”
WARONTHERIGHT

Maybe some of you (Azarkhan for one!!) ‘enlightened’ followers of the right (and Beck)
should watch the doc “WHY WE FIGHT” and find out another
reason why this country has a deficit (due to neocons) and not all due to entitlements,
the trade deficit, and personnel debts etc. Watch out for a standing army Pre George
Washington warned and has anyone foggoten what Pres Eisenhower said? Our
descendants have more debt and not just what is owed, but what they will have
to pay for things we all neglected to do.
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

alamo2 said:
That is one of the more idiotic, insane posts on here. Where did you come up witha that?

While Beck laughs all the way to the bank with his moronic bombasts, fools like you swallow every word he says.

I don’t listen to Beck. Only progressives do I guess, since you seem to know so much about him….
Like it or not Progressives use Capitalism for their own gain. They want to change everything. They will tell you great story’s of modernism Like Hitler did. The Germans were all for progressivism in 1939. Who did the work? If they were allowed to live… Hmmmm?
ganymede

What’s happening is that the Republican Party has totally lost control of the narrative and we can only hope and pray that Beck’s psychosis continues to thrive. I doubt whether Beck will be around much longer. There are limits to what even Murdoch can swallow. The Rick Sanchez story is a great illustration of what happens when a second rate television personality wanders off the ranch. Not even Beck’s most ardent supporters are going to be able to follow him as he continues to implode. Go Beck go!
The_Reasonable_Lib

Burnnotice said:
I don’t listen to Beck. Only progressives do I guess, since you seem to know so much about him….
Like it or not Progressives use Capitalism for their own gain. They want to change everything. They will tell you great story’s of modernism Like Hitler did. The Germans were all for progressivism in 1939. Who did the work? If they were allowed to live… Hmmmm?

Are you familiar with the Wirtschaftswunder and the role of the marshall plan in it?
The_Reasonable_Lib

ganymede said:
What’s happening is that the Republican Party has totally lost control of the narrative and we can only hope and pray that Beck’s psychosis continues to thrive. I doubt whether Beck will be around much longer. There are limits to what even Murdoch can swallow. The Rick Sanchez story is a great illustration of what happens when a second rate television personality wanders off the ranch. Not even Beck’s most ardent supporters are going to be able to follow him as he continues to implode. Go Beck go!

They’ll follow no matter what just like they do rush limbaugh. why? he’s only telling them what they want to hear.
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Whatever label you want to put on it, my friend. It carries no negative connotation to me.
And from an anthropological standpoint I mean liberal. The modern usage of the term liberal applies to anybody who leans to the left of the political spectrum. Since I live in modern times, this is what applies. But as I said, whatever you want to call it is fine, I’m not defined by you preference.

A person is defined by his actions, and his beliefs. I try and do my best to help my neighbor, Not asking the Government to do it. I plant trees, Shrubs, and gardens to beautify our great land. I am for the Preservation of wetlands, I am against blowing up mountains for coal. i am against drilling for oil in the middle of the Ocean were its is very risky, and susceptible to accidents. Ya I’m just your typical old fashion Liberal….
alamo2

Burnnotice said:
Like it or not Progressives use Capitalism for their own gain. They want to change everything. They will tell you great story’s of modernism Like Hitler did. The Germans were all for progressivism in 1939. Who did the work? If they were allowed to live… Hmmmm?

To equate Nazism to Democrats (or, as you and your ilk, call them: Progressives) is plain insane. You would flunk any civics or history course.
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Are you familiar with the Wirtschaftswundert?

No I’m not into German Witchcraft.. but I do know the U. S. was flirting with Fascism with the Germans and helped them build their war machine before they went to war with them… Shhhhhh… Deon’t tell anyone. That will be our little secret.
Founders_were_Liberal

Douche or no douche: pointing at the camera in a photo?

DOUCHE!
http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

Calvin said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfcRv1ZS-PA

Umm, Calvin? I never said Tea Partiers. Nowhere in my posts. I said Beck and Olbermann. I said Republicans and Democrats. Both Beck and Olbermann have used old Nazi imagery when proselytizing about Obama and Bush. Both have defended president as Hitler as free speech when it was their side and condemned it when it was not. Both parties use words like fascist and dictator when talking about the other. I did mention Nick Saban, but he is a tyrant and a dictator taking advantage of unpaid laborers.

In fact, if you look, I have repeatedly pointed out that most Tea Party folks are good people trying to make a point politely and appropriately. They do not engage in the loony rhetoric espoused by the Becks and Olbermanns. I appreciate the link, but is is not on topic here.

http://www.itisnotagame.com
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

Burnnotice says: “Like it or not Progressives use Capitalism for their own gain. They want to change everything. They will tell you great story’s of modernism Like Hitler did. ”

You’re insane. What’s the name of the law that states how long it takes for someone to bring up Nazis in an argument? Goodwin’s Law.

FYI, progressives don’t “want to change everything.” Progressives vary person to person. Some want to change one thing. Some want to change a few things. Some want to change many things. None want to “change everything.” You’ve been listening to ignorant propagandists and ignoring actual information. I have a novel idea Burnnotice: why don’t you read a f%$king BOOK?

Here’s a short online history from The Glenn Beck Report:
http://glennbeckreport.com/history-of-progressivism/
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

alamo2 said:
To equate Nazism to Democrats (or, as you and your ilk, call them: Progressives) is plain insane. You would flunk any civics or history course.

alamo2 said:
To equate Nazism to Democrats (or, as you and your ilk, call them: Progressives) is plain insane. You would flunk any civics or history course.

Who said anything about Democrats??? The Progressive “movement” started with the Republicans in the early Nineteen Hundreds. They have always been there. Now we see more and more taking over the Democratic party. Don.t blame me for it. and It will take this country imploding on itself before people wake up and realize they were all taken for a ride… All In the name of progress……..
chucken

Hey Beckerhead,It was your guys the Founding Fathers that allowed slavery to to continue when this nation was created and it took the Civil War with over 500,000 dead to end it about a century later.I guess Medicare is slavery also.And Social Security?? Beck really needs a brain transplant in his twisted world view America has slaves,Nazis,Commies,Marxists,revolutionaries,cancer progressives running all over the place.What a fucking wackjob.CNN fires Rick Sanchez with comments a lot less stupid than this crazed lunatic.
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

GlennBeckReview said:

You’re insane. What’s the name of the law that states how long it takes for someone to bring up Nazis in an argument? Goodwin’s Law.

I Only bring “him” up because he was an arch progressive. That what was being discussed. He saw That the Americans were flirting with it .He figured he could take it further then anyone… and of course he used slaves…

P. S. Quit watching so much Beck! You are diffidently tuning into an AWG….
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

Was What… LOL I’m Dyslexic..
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

Burnnotice says: “The Progressive “movement” started with the Republicans in the early Nineteen Hundreds. They have always been there. Now we see more and more taking over the Democratic party. Don.t blame me for it. and It will take this country imploding on itself before people wake up and realize they were all taken for a ride…”

Before you continue to embarrass yourself, you need to get real information, not the nonsense that Glenn Beck spouts. I have proven him wrong on so many issues, and his “understanding” of progressivism is no exception.

If anyone needs to “wake up,” it’s the gullible people who think Beck is qualified to teach ANYTHING, much less history. This is one example of what Beck got wrong about history and progressivism.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/becks-arguments-against-progressive-era.html
vindex2010

I think Beck’s point was that before state-instituted slavery, American settlers had what was commonly known as indentured servitude. In the mid-1600′s, before colonial governments were formed, Africans became indentured servants, similar in legal position to many poor Englishmen. Most black servants were given their freedom after turning 25 years old–under similar contractual arrangement as English apprenticeships. The popular conception of a racial-based slave system developed in the 1680′s when courts and institutions became involved due to the wealth generated and a public policy of racialized slavery was formed. People give government the credit for freeing the slaves but few give it the blame for horribly exacerbating the institution similar to the government creation of Jim Crow laws in the 1800s.
labo

I don’t know what schools a lot of you learned you history from, but nothing happens in this country with out government involvement. To say the government I.E. courts didn’t perpetuate slavery is an embarrassment to your idiot professors who taught you this pap of lies.
So for so slow moving brain try an elementary site to follow a long.
http://www.infoplease.com/timelines/slavery.html

And if you thing the government isn’t about making money I.E. taxes, the average American pays well over 50% of his income to local, state and federal government.

Our Militarys main purpose is to keep the water ways open, and destroy any one who’s a treat to our economy.
Try reading “Confessions of an Economic Hit man.”
Alric_IV

Calvin said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfcRv1ZS-PA

Yeah. That’s a good example. I like that. I really do. Contrary to that statement, the Tea Party did in fact have signs with Obama as Hitler. However, no one takes that stuff seriously.
chatmandu002

“Only in the tortured and hyperbolic world of opinion media can one expected to hear this sort of analysis.” Have you listen to Keith, the spin-meister, Uberman or Radical Madcow lately.
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

GlennBeckReview said:
Burnnotice says: “The Progressive “movement” started with the Republicans in the early Nineteen Hundreds. They have always been there. Now we see more and more taking over the Democratic party. Don.t blame me for it. and It will take this country imploding on itself before people wake up and realize they were all taken for a ride…”

Before you continue to embarrass yourself, you need to get real information, not the nonsense that Glenn Beck spouts. I have proven him wrong on so many issues, and his “understanding” of progressivism is no exception.

If anyone needs to “wake up,” it’s the gullible people who think Beck is qualified to teach ANYTHING, much less history. This is one example of what Beck got wrong about history and progressivism.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/becks-arguments-against-progressive-era.html

Again Stop listening to Beck!!!!

He is Polluting your Brain!!! have you ever taken a physiology class? Does projection come to mind in your behavior????

Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person unconsciously denies their own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to the weather, a tool, or to other people. Thus, it involves imagining or projecting that others have those feelings.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

Burnnotice says: “He is Polluting your Brain!!! have you ever taken a physiology class? Does projection come to mind in your behavior????”

Like every comment you make on here, this one made no sense. Physiology? Is about the body. Projection is a feature of psychology.

Projection has nothing to do with the slow and steady debunking of a liar, a hypocrite and a charlatan. Beck isn’t “polluting” my mind (note difference between mind and brain). I don’t believe a damn thing he utters because, my research has shown, Beck cannot be trusted to state the facts. You know, those pesky details that you seem to have a hard time grasping.

I bet you could not even bother reading the short history of progressivism that you and your ilk so badly need to learn about, did you?

Nice try with your freshman class psychology there Bubba, but you really have no idea who you’re addressing. I have forgotten more psychology than you know about, and it was not my major.

FYI, the reason I don’t address Beck ego or his megalomania is because there are others more qualified to address this than I. Translation: you shouldn’t spout your freshman psychology and think you know what you’re talking about.
Iris

Hrey michelle the welfare queen , looks like you lost this one!
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

There is an excellent post up by Beck biographer, Dana Milbank. author of Tears of a Clown: Glenn Beck and the Teabagging of America:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/30/AR2010093005267.html?wpisrc=nl_pmopinions

Get someone’s else’s view of this pseudo-historian.
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

GlennBeckReview said:
Burnnotice says: “He is Polluting your Brain!!! have you ever taken a physiology class? Does projection come to mind in your behavior????”

Like every comment you make on here, this one made no sense. Physiology? Is about the body. Projection is a feature of psychology.

Projection has nothing to do with the slow and steady debunking of a liar, a hypocrite and a charlatan. Beck isn’t “polluting” my mind (note difference between mind and brain). I don’t believe a damn thing he utters because, my research has shown, Beck cannot be trusted to state the facts. You know, those pesky details that you seem to have a hard time grasping.

I bet you could not even bother reading the short history of progressivism that you and your ilk so badly need to learn about, did you?

Nice try with your freshman class psychology there Bubba, but you really have no idea who you’re addressing. I have forgotten more psychology than you know about, and it was not my major.

FYI, the reason I don’t address Beck ego or his megalomania is because there are others more qualified to address this than I. Translation: you shouldn’t spout your freshman psychology and think you know what you’re talking about.

Here you go lady’s and gentle men in Psych 101. Our first example….
Vietnameravet

If anyone is so stupid they cannot see through the absolute stupidity of this statement by Beck then far be it from me to try to enlighten them! If you think this statement about slavery is true or even that it might be true then you should see a doctor as soon as possible and tell him you have trouble telling fantasy from reality! Have Conservatives no shame or decency or honesty whatsoever!!
Ted-

I don’t know what’s more amusing; Beck serving up bullshit or tea-baggers eating it up and asking for more.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

Ted- says: “I don’t know what’s more amusing; Beck serving up bullshit or tea-baggers eating it up and asking for more.”

How about Burnnotice pretending that he know something about psychology, which he calls physiology because he dropped out half-way through.

Of course, that happens to be MUCH more post-secondary education than Beck has had in economics, politics, history, common sense….
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

GlennBeckReview said:
Ted- says: “I don’t know what’s more amusing; Beck serving up bullshit or tea-baggers eating it up and asking for more.”

I don’t know whats more amusing people like you that are Narcissistic and carry on Obsessive behaviors to the point of stalking an Celebrity. Or people who just blindly follow anyone with a great smile and doomsday message…

Like my daddy always said…

Class: Yes Professor Burns?

There will always be Chicken Littles in the world.. You’ll recognize them right away when they ask for some chickenfeed after they proclaimed the sky is falling…….
http://www.libertarianism.com/ Burnnotice

Glen Beck is just a Chicken Little with a Big Mansion. Fear Mongering is good business….
Greg

“The problem with Beck’s explanation is that the Atlantic slave trade took place from the 17th to 19th century America. Many of the slaves from Africa were imported in colonial times, the same time “golden” time period that Beck believes America should be “restored” to once again. Contrary to Beck assertion, federal law was relatively weak during this time, especially over matters of commerce. Each state was essentially allowed to legalize or outlaw slavery as they wished. Federal law upheld the rights of the states and individual property rights (even the right to own another person). ”

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/glenn-beck-claims-slavery-was-not-really-bad-until-government-got-involved

Whole article is worth a read…
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

Burnnotice said:
“The first slave owners were progressives. They built their empire on the backs of slaves and the poor. All for the sake of progress…”

The_Reasonable_Lib says:
“Yeah, evil progressives like George Washington and other founding fathers!!! Dumbass!!!”

Beck and his pinhead followers, such a Burnnotice, don’t care if what they say or write corresponds to reality. For Burnnotice, progressives were the first slave owners. Uh huh; pulling facts out of his all like Mr. Beck does. We are to not know that Progressivism began in the U.S. 40 years or so AFTER slavery was outlawed in the U.S.

Burnnotice, how do you live with yourself? You have no idea of what you’re talking about, but you listen to Rush Limbaugh and/or Glenn Beck and you believe the utter nonsense they spew and repeat it. And you’re not alone! Millions of gullible Americans are standing in the long tradition of backlash politics because there’s a Democrat in the White House. The Tea Party is an old whine in a new bottle.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/08/history-of-the-tea-party

The reactionaries keep getting more numerous, but not any more rational or – in the case of many like Burnnotice, “writer,” Pablo, and media whore (Isn’t that Gordon Bloyer!?!) – sane.

Oh, and Burnnotice, if you’re going to worship Mr. Beck, spell his damn name right! It’s Glenn Beck, not Glen Beck.
RIChris

What if a political party used lies, intimidation, endless welfare, food stamps and public housing to get a particular demographic to join and vote for them? Couldn’t that be viewed as enslaving a portion of the population?
http://none pyrope

MediaWhore said:
I’m pretty sure if you buy more gold, all that slavery will magically disappear.

I don’t know whether buying gold will end slavery, but buying silver could very well do the trick. I began buying silver back when it was ~$6.60/ounce, you know, just a 100 ounces at a time when I could afford it, and since I am no longer a slave (except to my wife, of course), it’s worked out pretty well for me.
http://none pyrope

Iris said:
Hrey michelle the welfare queen , looks like you lost this one!

Oh, I see you got the bail money–glad you’re out of the slam again Viris. Now, from here on, PLEASE stay on your medications.
http://none pyrope

alamo2 said:
To equate Nazism to Democrats (or, as you and your ilk, call them: Progressives) is plain insane. You would flunk any civics or history course.

Could that be because the people teaching said course are members of the NEA?
joeshmoe

lonestar77 said:
Lefty Beck haters like Colby have no sense of history. Their sense of history began when their Messiah, Obama was elected. Instead of challenging Beck on the facts, he plays the race card. “Some may find it offensive”. Yeah, well, I find you offensive, Colby, therefore you’re a racist bigoted homophobic person who likes to beat up old lady’s. Yep, playing the ism card is easy. No wonder you lefty elitists do it sooooooooo often.

It is very hard to argue with a crackpot psycho, with their own version of reality.
Pablo

vindex2010 said:
I think Beck’s point was that before state-instituted slavery, American settlers had what was commonly known as indentured servitude. In the mid-1600’s, before colonial governments were formed, Africans became indentured servants, similar in legal position to many poor Englishmen. Most black servants were given their freedom after turning 25 years old–under similar contractual arrangement as English apprenticeships. The popular conception of a racial-based slave system developed in the 1680’s when courts and institutions became involved due to the wealth generated and a public policy of racialized slavery was formed. People give government the credit for freeing the slaves but few give it the blame for horribly exacerbating the institution similar to the government creation of Jim Crow laws in the 1800s.

Exactly right. For all you progressive geniuses, here’s some more factual absurdity for you: The first American to legally own a slave was a black man. His name was Anthony Johnson and the first slave, his slave, was named John Casor. Casor became a slave by court order in 1654. That is what Beck is talking about.

You fools could look it up. And if you learn to do that sort of thing before hand, you won’t look so stupid screaming that the facts are “absurd”.
Pablo

Vietnameravet said:
If anyone is so stupid they cannot see through the absolute stupidity of this statement by Beck then far be it from me to try to enlighten them! If you think this statement about slavery is true or even that it might be true then you should see a doctor as soon as possible and tell him you have trouble telling fantasy from reality! Have Conservatives no shame or decency or honesty whatsoever!!

Have you any capacity to read? Are you familiar with the internet, or those newfangled library thingies? I’d tell you to see a doctor, but as Ron White so succinctly noted, you can’t fix stupid.
Pablo

Alric_IV said:
Yeah. That’s a good example. I like that. I really do. Contrary to that statement, the Tea Party did in fact have signs with Obama as Hitler. However, no one takes that stuff seriously.

Those are Larouchenicks, one of which ran against Barney Frank in the Democrat primary. This woman, Rachel Brown. They are not conservatives by any stretch of the imagination.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

As with all things Beck, this is more of his misunderstanding of what happened in history conveyed, twisted, distorted to fit his case that slavery was A-OK until government got involved. What a moron! For someone with an average IQ, he sure can say things that make people think that he’s mentally challenged. To be fair, he’s a gifted idiot.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/10/beck-and-tea-party-poach-facts-from.html

Millions of gullible people actually believe what this documented liar states. Glenn Beck: living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.
Mr B

GBR,

Please explain where he was wrong. Include the case study and the people involved at the time.

You can start with this one person already mentioned.

From Wikipedia: “Anthony Johnson was an Angolan African held as an indentured servant by a merchant in the Colony of Virginia in 1620, but later freed to become a successful tobacco farmer and owner of an African slave of his own. However on his death in 1670 a court ruled that he was: “a negro and by consequence, an alien”, and the colony seized his land.”

Why did the court rule that? And how could a slave own a slave if you Lefty’s are right and Glenn is wrong?
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

From: http://innercity.org/holt/slavechron.html

The legend has been repeated endlessly that the first blacks in Virginia were “indentured servants,” but there is no hint of this in the records. The legend grew up because the word slave did not appear in Virginia records until 1656, and statutes defining the status of blacks began to appear casually in the 1660s. The inference was then made that blacks called servants must have had approximately the same status as white indentured servants. Such reasoning failed to notice that Englishmen, in the early seventeenth century, used the work servant when they meant slave in our sense, and, indeed, white Southerners invariably used servant until 1865 and beyond. Slave entered the Southern vocabulary as a technical word in trade, law and politics.

Jamestown had exported 10 tons of tobacco to Europe and was a boomtown. The export business was going so well the colonists were able to afford two imports which would greatly contribute to their productivity and quality of life. 20 Blacks from Africa…were paid for in food; each woman cost 120 pounds of tobacco. The Blacks were bought as indentured servants from a passing Dutch ship low on food,….

With the success of tobacco planting, African Slavery was legalized in Virginia and Maryland, becoming the foundation of the Southern agrarian economy.

Is that enough? By use of sloppy language, Beck ascribes this as the fault of “regulation” thereby painting regulations of racist colonists with modern regulations.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

So, when Beck said, “It didn’t come over in a ship to begin with, as an evil slave trade….” He lied (again).

Again, from: http://innercity.org/holt/slavechron.html

The other crucial event that would play a role in the development of America was the arrival of Africans to Jamestown. A Dutch slave trader exchanged his cargo of Africans for food in 1619.

Beck’s lies are what the Tea Party calls “history.”
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/10/beck-and-tea-party-poach-facts-from.html
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

Mr B says: “GBR, Please explain where he was wrong. Include the case study and the people involved at the time.
You can start with this one person already mentioned. From Wikipedia: “Anthony Johnson was an Angolan African held as an indentured servant”

You remind me of Glenn Beck, leaving out little details that don’t fit into your reactionary narrative. Just before your little quote there is this: “Early in 1620, Johnson was captured by slave traders in his native land of Angola ”

How was that not evil? Oh, Mr. B, don’t f#$k with me. You can’t, and that’s why you disappeared after I pointed out that 20 blacks were traded for food and that they were “indentured servants” in name because the southern plantation owners had not started using the word “slave” yet.

So I ask again, after so many take downs of Beck’s historical revisionism, how the hell does he have any credibility?
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

I doubt anyone will ever come back here to look at this comment, but I’ve now written a post on the subject featuring this post and some of the comments.
http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/10/becks-history-of-slavery-is-flawed-and.html
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