Balance. Thank you. Everyone just needs to chill out. 

RUN, TOMMY, RUN

Where will this end, Tommy comments on Rachel’s story on Frank Luntz’ comment, then Alex comments on Tommy’s comment on Rachel’s story on Luntz Comment.  I can hardly wait for Jon Bershad’s take on Alex’s take on Tommy’s take on Rachel’s storyn on Frank Luntz’ comment.   I’m getting a headache.

nice article alex

If a liberal put a “Run, W, Run” on his front bumper, the liberals would be buying it up like crazy and there would be cries of “free speech!”. Whatever. Just more double standard.

C’mon really is right. Tommy jumped the shark with this one. Talk about unhinged, he seems unhinged lately. As a life long Democrat, I knew that Luntz was joking and it was a bad joke, but it was a joke. Lighten up Tommy.

Mediaite Catfight !

Actually, well done, ma’am.

Very well written, Alex. It was a pleasure to read this.

“… appreciation for nuance, an awareness of context, and a
healthy dose of relativism. The world is not black and white.”

You would seem to be a rare breed of conservative.

Where was the outrage when all the nastiness was being said about President Bush?

No she’s not.. Have you read any of her other blog posts?  Try her Daily Caller v Media Matters pieces for starters.. There is no nuance, awareness of context or relativism in any of them..  There is more proof that Lutz wants to run over the President than any of the Daily Callers claims.. She’s happens to be right in this instance but she’s still a hack nonetheless..

Alex, the problem is that America’s right has become very angry and delusional. There are people in this country and even people who post on this board thinking that Obama is a genuinely evil person whose interests are with Al Qaeda over America, and they also believe that removing Obama from office is essential for the survival of America, even if that process is illegal & involves violence. I’m not saying Luntz should be fired for this, but his comments are very inappropriate and dangerous for the campaign trail. This guy is a well known linguistic who knows exactly what he means and how people will react when he makes such utterances. As a result, he should be more responsible & held accountable with what he says.

Nicely said Alex.

Good luck with the whole common sense thing, though. Sadly, I think that ship has sailed.

Luntz is a slavering bottom feeder. He fits right in at Fox.

Alvarez’s argument is pretty weak.  His main argument is that the bumper sticker is akin to saying “take my wife please.”  It’s not, it’s more akin to saying “I’d like to shoot my wife in the head”, and that’s not very funny, is it?

here here

dueling op-eds are all the rage these days.

What does it matter? The balance can be achieved by reading different blogs and websites.

I agree with Tommy, though Fox News would never fire him… he’s their propaganda specialist!!

Also, I would like to thank Alex for using that picture of Luntz!! I could swear I saw Frank in Sunday’s episode of The Walking Dead!!

Timely, and well said Alex.

Y’know, Obama is the first President in my memory that the press is just in mortal fear of offending.  It never used to be off-limits to make jokes about the President, but it sure is now – are we that afraid of him?

Yes really, Mr Alvarez.  If Michelle Bachmann was still in the race, and a liberal commentator stood up at an Obama rally and make a joke about her getting run over by a car I would most definitely be asking what the hell it said about the speaker’s attitudes towards women, and why the hell the Obama Campaign would associate itself with such d-baggery.

And yes, I think Fox News (if it still even pretended to be “fair and balanced”) should be asked questions about whether someone who is billed as a ‘news analyst’ (NOT standup comic) pulling that kind of stunt is really representing them well.

But, I guess, it’s only bad when evil liberals and Democrats do it, right?  People like Santorum and Newt Gingrich never have to own their words or be accountable for anything.

 The outraged parties are all racists who think a black President needs to be treated like a retarded child. 

“Don’t you say that about Corky!”

Also, not even sure why saying you want to put a bumper stick on the front of your car means you want to run someone over?  To me it just means you don’t want anyone to read it (cause the people in back of you in traffic read your bumper stickers on the REAR bumper).

The race of the year in Texas, and G-Dogg likes it.

“Jackson Lee to face challenge from rapper Cornbreadd in November”

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/211977-jackson-lee-to-face-challenge-from-rapper-cornbreadd-in-november

@rowdygirl726:disqus Beast27  Chill out should they?  b a s t a r d.  You disgust me so, i shan’t abuse you.  I will, however, ask you a simple question.  Just one.  Even a buffoon of your calibre ought to get this one.  SIMPLE as you are, can you delineate the difference between this and what ended up happening to Gabby Gifford you overly fed under educated s c u m?

NO Big Deal!  In fact, the nastiness against Bush was thoroughly “felt and enjoyed” by the left at MSNBC! It still happens!  I get a chuckle myself from all the weirdness out there with Shultz, Maddow, and Lawrence!  Enough already, I am Democrat and cannot see the damage done.  When President Obama entered this arena, he’s everyone’s game.  The “game” is not black or white, puhleez!  I’m willing to bet, Prez O could care less and probably laughs at all the MSNBC politically correct “concerns.”  It’s doubtful he gives a D!  Sorry, folks I listen to all the big ones, and I don’t think the nastiness is alive and well on Planets FOX nor CNN.  I get my laughs at “Leaning Forward.”

BTW, nice article, Alex.

1-Is this guy a moron?….yup.
2-Should he get fired?….I dunno…
3-Will he get fired?…Not.A.Chance.In.Hell.

You’re one sick pup…

You’re probably correct. I’ve read some of her other blog posts and didn’t find her as objective as she seems to view herself.

I was simply trying to point out that the attributes she ascribes to herself (nuance and awareness of context particularly) seem to be found in short supply amongst most conservatives.

don’t you mean “hear hear” ??

Dumb joke just like the Obama guy at the White House. My only problem with Lutz, is depending on the Fox show he appears ,on he tends to slant his polls towards that host opinnon,

I’m actually writing a one act play dramatizing Nando’ poem satirizing Jamie’s song about Frances’ post about Alex’ take on Tommy’s column. It should be pretty good.

Seriously though, we do do point counterpoint things from time to time. All good. It’s our monthly figh club nights where things sometimes get out of hand.

Silly Teatard…

This article is like a Politifact fact-check.

It agrees with mostly everything Tommy said then rates it “Mostly False”.

Awesome, I can’t wait.

 Funny.

And I cannot pass this one up.

“Seriously though, we do do”

Freshmen humor, but

Hey Frank, Keith Richards called. He wants his healthy pallor back.

W was said to be quite a biking fanatic and very proficient at it to boot, it’s not likely he’d take us seriously chasing him in our Prii.

Alex is a girl and if I saw a “I’d like to shoot my wife in the head” bumper sticker I would probably laugh.

To which I say, with all due respect: Come on. Really?

Yes, really. It’s Tommy being Tommy. If you need some hysteria, Tommy’s your man.

Video, or it didn’t happen.

 You know how people count sheep to get to sleep? Tommy jumps sharks.

Hey, who’s out there attacking people, rioting, committing arson and civil unrest? Hint: It ain’t the right.

Wow. How bad do you have to be to have your own site call you out on your insane bias? Tommy Christopher bad. 

Maybe he likes balance here… here.

Spoken like a true partisan. How dare one site give time to opposing viewpoints! For shame!

Scott Phillip Roeder? Richard Poplawski? Byron Williams?

 Just as a point of fact – right here.  Also got some bite marks in my ass for suggesting that whatever you think of Sarah Palin (in my case – not much) the c-bomb is offensive and uncalled for no matter who it’s lobbed at.

 What a load of b.s.  Perhaps I’m showing my age, but I remember when the Republican Party used to be full of men who thought the Presidency was an office that should be sought – and occupied – with grativas and dignity. Then again, I guess it’s unrealistic to expect trash to live anywhere other than the gutter.

That may be the best blog that I have ever read at Mediaite.

The usual right-wing hypocrisy anyone?

Blogging right-wing  scum were all over the media not only wanting Randi Rhodes fired, but even criminally investigated–in fact, I think that happened—for a joke she made about Bush and “gunshots.”

So now Republican right-winger Frank Luntz jokes about the death and/or injury of Obama, combined with a media image involving chasing a black man running from a car driving at him to run him over, and now the right-wing scum rushes to defend Luntz??  Claiming liberals have no sense of humor?

And how many of you *ss h*le teabaggers have now used the two-wrongs-make-a-right fallacy to argue “it’s now all okay”?  Uh uh!  If you were condemning all the tasteless jokes involving about G.W. Bush and his killing, you have absolutely no right to be showing up in any forum saying a <liberal’s> wrong + Luntz’s wrong = we’re all in balance now

If Randi Rhodes merits a federal investigation and/or Congressional condemnation, get the resolution against Luntz ready too.

I liked the letter to the editor of USA Today, claiming that Occupy should storm wall street with guns.  civil, indeed.

What about Mark Meckler?

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=15165432

What about Sarah Palin?

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=12576437

Alex, I agree with you that Mr. Luntz’ comment is not a firing offense.

But I do believe in a perfect world we should not be making jokes about any public official that even remotely suggest bodily harm.

Right, except 8 years of Democrats who broke protocol by insulting a sitting President (Carter and Gore), Bush Assassination fantasies (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/01/AR2006090100858.html), reporters making up stories to trash the President (Rathergate), and just Liberal craziness in general like this:  http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

But it is somehow the Republicans that brought down the walls of decorum only after Obama became President.    Maybe a little self-reflection and blame is due to your own party- especially for someone your age (whatever that means). 

Secret service should investigate anyways, you never know.

I don’t know how much lipstick Luntz put on for that photo, but he usually doesn’t wear it.

And no, everyone knows Luntz himself would never run down the President of the United States with his car. First of all, he’d never get close enough, and second of all guys like Luntz never do the wet work.

On the other hand, just like Bill O’Reilly stoked a guy in Kansas to murder a doctor in church, Luntz is egging on (subtly, and ” ‘umbly,” as is his style) unbalanced rightists to do bodily harm to Obama supporters, and has certainly prepared in advance denials of any intent to incite, or knowledge of any connection to the deed, once it is perpetrated. He will then go on Fox, and say, outraged and indignant, “how DARE the liberals insinuate I had anything whatsoever to do with this heinous deed, which I denounce is the strongest terms.” You can tell the guy’s a pro, because he’ll even keep a straight face until the cameras are turned off.

Luntz was not threatening the president. He was just joking.
Okay, joking about killing the President is in bad taste.

But he wasn’t joking about killing the President, just running him down with his car.

Okay, that’s bad, too.

Tommy Christopher is right and Alex “Come-on-Really” Alvarez is wrong. The joke leaves a bad taste.

as Groucho Marx said many years ago – How much would you want to stand at the wrong end of a shooting gallery!  Same thing only different – still funny & a JOKE
Lighten up!  The McDonald joke was out before the dope got elected. And what the hell does his being the “first black president” have to do with ANYTHING. So since he’s black – no jokes allowed? Just check out some of the stuff said about Bush & Cheney on HBO. Gimme a break.

Funny jokes….Thanks for the laughs…Frank.
I hope I an driving the car in front of you one day.

Hey everybody look! A writer at Mediaite used the word “context.” They may actually understand it and use it someday too. Hoorazy!!!

I am so sorry Alex I wasn’t able to offend you.  How bout my new joke that I have the sticker “run obama run” on my back bumper and look, there’s an effigy of a black guy tied to it with a rope:-)  Isn’t that hilllariousssss:-D

Great post, and while the bumper sticker joke was dumb and unprofessional, the mcd’s joke was actually funny.   Should really be that you order a happy meal, and it’s ‘free’ to you’ but the rest of the customers get to pay for it…