No shocker here…at least Fox News has a good mix of liberal and conservative perspectives UNLIKE MSNBC

He said some stupid things, he was punished, there would be more outrage if he wasn’t. It’s MSNBC’s right to sack someone for making comments that reflect badly on them as his employer so this really is a non issue

If people on the right want Pat Buchanan to remain on TV, start a campaign to get Fox News to hire him.

Media companies have to maintain a delicate balance. On the one hand, they don’t want to be seen as shutting down unpopular opinions, but on the other, they shouldn’t just give a platform to every incendiary jerk with a microphone.

I thought Buchanan, for all his faults, was defensible as a contributor because he has been on the front lines of conservatism for generations, actually worked in the White House and his opinion — if you really listened to him over time — was often quite capable of being reasonable and he was willing to listen to the other side. (In fact, he had a very cordial relationship with Rachel Maddow.)

Beck, on the other hand, was an amateur and a bomb-thrower who simply invented his own reality. (By his own words, he was nothing more than a “rodeo clown.”) He tossed around a lot of nonsense buzzwords and, from Day One, built his whole show around fear and paranoia. Fox was wise to dump him, particularly as he was bringing unwanted scrutiny to the channel’s claim to be “fair and balanced.”

I am sure Fox News will hire Pat Buchanan in a minute. He fits in perfectly over there. They also have a large supply of clean sheets and hoods.

Conservatives don’t walk in lockstep. Fox News=Fair and Balanced.

 Really? MSNBC has two shows hosted by Republicans. How many shows on Fox News that’s hosted by Democrats?

Something strange debating whether Beck was right (or helpful) calling Obama a racist one time a while back, while many on the left, especially MSNBC, continue to call anyone and everyone on the right racist literally every single day.  The term double standard doesn’t quite cover it.

Say something negative about Christians/Jews = fired
Say something negative about Muslims = promoted

America 2012

Fox News = Rich people paying rich people to tell middle class people blame poor people.

Wallace calls Beck irresponsible – more than a year after the fact. When Beck was employed, promoted and defended by Ailes, Wallace didn’t utter a peep about his hysterical lies.

They hired Mark Fuhrman – a man known for nothing but being a racist ass. He has no other claim to fame, other than letting his bigotry blow the prosecution’s case in the OJ trial.

really, joe is co-host, who is the other?

First, not walking in lockstep doesn’t equate to “fair and balanced.” 

Secondly, you will never hear Wallace or another Fox employee say something like that while on air for Fox.

ZERO, Joe is a pretend Republican.  Name the 2????

You mean like Juan Williams was promoted by NPR after saying he felt nervous when getting on a plane with people dressed up in muslim garb?

 Two shows?  Really?

Morning Joe features a former Republican Representative who’s outnumbered by Manhattan liberals every single morning.  And, the only reason Scarboruough has that gig is because he loves to criticize Republicans, from the left.

With respect to Fox News, I have no idea what Greta’s political leanings may or may not be.  Whatever she is, she’s hardly a conservative and I suspect she’s voted for far more Democrats than she has Republicans.  And, it’s also important to note that she hosts a prime-time show, unlike Scarborough – a guy who can NEVER be found on MSNBC’s election night coverage.

He won’t tank his high-paying job just to stand up for honesty. 

Unlike Fox News, MSNBC has a record of hiring conservative hosts, including Michael Savage, Laura Ingram, and Alan Keyes.

And unlike Fox viewers who have lied consistently about the fairness of the Network over the years, you won’t find any liberals denying MSNBC’s bent.

Gee, and you wonder why people refer to the Republicans as cannibalizing their own?

Mika, Chuck, Jansing, Roberts, Wagner, Mitchell, Hall, Bashir, Ratigan, Matthews, Schultz, Maddow, O’ Donnell, Hayes, Witt, Harris-Perry

ALL LIBERAL!!!

Well Chris Wallace you certainly have made my day. Its about time that a prominent Fox journalist calls beck out as irresponsible for calling Obama a racist. Sure it took you years to get around to it but thanks for finally acknowldging what beck said was wrong and “irresponsible.” That is great. and what do you mean you don’t know if Beck was fired Chris? I think you know and I think your pointing to his Obama is a racist comment-it sure didn’t help-really Chris? Apparently you though the comment was incindiary. So many conservatives flocked to his defense and now you say the remark was incindiary and didn’t help his career. Where was all this bravura three years ago Chris?
 
Well in the end you made the right decision Chris-you have come out against odious gasbags and shot down their blacklist talking points. This is a good thing. No wonder so many people watch Fox-occassionally you do the right thing by moving left.

The funny thing about Fox promoting the “Ground Zero mosque” b.s. story was that one of Fox’s biggest investors owned it. So if potential terrorists owned the mosque they owned Fox too. 

Gloves “Bingo” Donahue says what do you mean Beck was irresponsible? Last time somebody was irresponsible Mrs. Donahue got the house, the car, and the kids. And they ask me why I drink(to excess).

As a congressman, Scarborough sponsored a bill to force the U.S. to withdraw from the United Nations after a four-year transition[9] and voted to make the Corporation for Public Broadcasting “self-sufficient”[12] by eliminating federal funding.

Clever but missing the mark.  As far as blame goes, they blame liberal elites, people like John Edwards who ‘championed’ the poor while building up his multi-million dollar estate – not to mention using campaign cash to finance an affair while his wife was dying of cancer.  The only poor people I’ve heard them criticize are OWS protesters who poop on cars, trash businesses, assault each other (and cops), and illegal aliens taking advantage of laws that benefit them but not following those that don’t.   It always amazes me to hear liberals talk about how only they represent the poor, yet when it comes time to actually do something about it they scoff, meanwhile conservatives are donating their time and money directly to help those in need…

How are MSNBC meant to get prominent Republicans to appear to give their point of view on issues when they won’t return their calls? Remember when Bob McDonnell said he was more than willing to appear on Rachel Maddow and got Laura Ingraham to arrange it? Still hasn’t happened as Bob seems to have changed his mind.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rachel-maddow-thanks-laura-ingraham-for-helping-her-book-gov-bob-mcdonnell/

Anyone who does sign on with MSNBC to give a Republican perspective gets blasted and labelled a RINO, see Meghan McCain, Joe Scarborough and others. I’m sure MSNBC would have an easier time getting putting across a republican point of view were republicans prepared to man up and put themselves in a situation where they might be asked real questions from people who aren’t parroting right wing talking points.

And where is Mark?  Does he have a show?    By the way, where’s O.J.?

When you are just a co-host you don’t get the show named after you.

You apparently don’t watch Chris much.

What Greta’s leanings were or are, are irrelevant, if she panders to a conservative audience. She was never a pundit

Dylan Ratigan sure leans right to me…

No one considers Joe a conservative, MSNBC can only get a RINO.

MSNBC does not have two shows hosted by Republicans.  Joe Scarborough is as much a Republican as I am an astronaut.  If he were an independent would you figure he’d be roughly 50/50 positive/negative on either party?    Compare that standard to Joe, where he’s against whatever it is conservatives are doing 95% of the time.   He’s either a hypocrite for pretending to have the views of his audience or he’s a Republican in name only.

Exactly.

 Right and the latest study revealed that Fox Viewers are the most uninformed.

Whoa, what’s with all the infighting fella’s?
This is just the opposite of how the Media Matters outlets work on behalf of the Wnite House.
Let’s get your act together.

Hey Tommy, tell us honestly, when you were putting this piece together…did it move?

morning joe…..joe=coffee, brewed by starbucks, even the joe in the logo has a coffee stain…..but nice try

 Eight guests liked this comment.  In other words eight Disqus logins and logouts.

“leans right”, I think you mean bends over to satisfy management.

so its how you think they are. not a fact though

 And you think that was just a coincidence?

no they parrot left wing talking points, so you think msnbc would be fair, now thats funny

Oh dear…
 
Wallace calls the Baboon Beck irresponsible.
 
But Billdo keeps bringing the Baboon on his show to make himself look reasonable.

“Hey!
I can say all drug addicts like Limpo want to kill themselves. What you say Baboon Beck?
Don’t you agree your mother wanted to kill herself? And you too. How many years did you spend trying to kill yourself?

You were too stupid at that. You are still here taking my abuse.”

“Media Matters” has been in every one of your posts for 2 weeks now. That little old website got to you huh?

 You have got to be joking!

Ratigan is in the same Obama tank as the rest of the network!

Fact is Fox News, Not Racist but #1 With Racists. ;-)

Why is it that a blog supposedly “about the media” fails to report on the incestuous relationship between Obama and the liberal media, with a record 19 reporters and media executives joining Team Obama? (20 if you count Tommy “Christopher”…oops, more like 19 1/2)

^^^  I think we just found the Comment of the Day.

it is funny since mediaite bans people for critques and differences of opinions

 Ok he’s liberal… question still remains.. How many Democrat hosts are on Fox News?

 I asked that same question the other day.
Moreso, where is CBS, NBC, ABC, the (despicably-biased) NY Times, AP etc?

Honest people vs. Democrats & THEIR Media!

Not batsh!t crazy enough for you, eh?

 Those “hires” were all BEFORE Comcast took over.

 MSNBC at one time, was non-partisan…..Today, there is  no more partisan cable network, than MSDNC!

Paid for and advised by the administration and George Soros funded MMFA!

“…where [Joe]‘s against whatever it is conservatives are doing 95% of the time.”

In the same way that 95% of what Planned Parenthood does is abortions?

You guys aren’t too good with supposedly factual statements.

Ed Schultz and Rachel preceded the Comcast acquisition so your point is stupid.

Oh no, they might actually have to answer actual questions from people that aren’t pushing the same agenda as their party! Oh the humanity! It’s not the job of journalists to ask tough questions or anything. :)

Seriously, if you’re that sure your position is the right one, why not come on and defend them and try to talk people who disagree with you around?

He got a lot of Fox air time after that comment. 

I’ve no idea what Planned Parenthood does 95% of the time, as I’m confident you also do not (unless you work at their corporate offices and in the right department), but they have reported they killed 350,000 babies last year (though they worded it differently) – so go figure…

when a msnbc host does ask a democrat a tough question, then get back to me

 Their pernicious relationship with the White House, as well as their active role in vitiating, even further, the integrity of mainstream media outlets would more correctly define what “got to me”.

What really gets to me however, is the blatant COVER-UP by the media of this scandal.
Like the Rev. Wright COVER-UP, it’ll may take weeks of reporting by FOX to finally embarrass them enough to do their jobs!

Greta, Chris Wallace, Shepard Smith, Juan Williams (occasional)
MSNBC only Scarborough and he’s NOT conservative anymore.
Listen to everything he says…….He’s a fraud

There have been at least 6 articles on the topic.  How many more would be proper?

 So that explains your name “2″.  Why come back if you believe the banning was unjust?

At least 10, one per stooge.

As Democrats never, ever appear on Fox News where they’ll face a hostile interviewer. I mean, you’d never see Debbie Wasserman Schultz on Fox and Friends or America Live defending the party.. Oh wait.

You really did miss my point didn’t you? Democrats will appear on Fox News, Republicans largely avoid appearing on MSNBC because they’re afraid of being asked tough questions.

And I’d bet that Joe is making sure he watches his p’s and q’s these days- especially with Valerie Jarrett’s daily text messages to Mika while “Morning Joe” is on the air!

I wish the legacy media would just quit trying to pretend that they’re in the “news” business, and just say, “Look we’re the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party and we’re not going to report anything that would make Obama look bad, but we ARE going to spin in Obama’s favor anything that we can’t avoid mentioning.”

What do you expect ? His father is Mike Wallace..

You’re deflecting.

The point is that you’ve made an extremely absurd statement about Scarborough that you couldn’t support even if you monitored his show every single day. What it reminds me is that conservatives these days have no sense of proportion or facts anymore. Just like Jon Kyl the senator who claimed that 95% of what PP did was abortions, but the truth was that it was less than 5%. You’ve been caught indulging in the same kind of wildly inflated rhetoric that’s simply at odds with the facts.

Greta’s supposed to be Libertarian.

He’d already been a regular on O’Reilly (the flagship show) and others.   If anything, the vitriol of the bully left raised his profile enough he got a nice new fat contract.   I know other people who have lost their careers because of liberal hatred, I don’t even know where they work now…

You’d make up crap like that even if the ‘Likes’ required people to leave a picture of themselves standing in front of a live feed of MSNBC and a clock to prove its a different person.  This new game of liberal trolls is juvenile. 

I agree with Wallace truth to power.  

Morning Joe is called Morning Joe because of Joe Scarborough. The show wasn’t initially sponsored by Starbucks. It’s a play on Joe’s name. You’re an ignorant racist holocaust-denying bigot if you don’t understand. *ULTIMATE VICTORY*

 It wasn’t what Buchanan said, ( he didn’t ‘say’ anything) it was the book he just wrote!

If you’re going to discuss the issue, at least have a clue on why it happened!

Think?

Absolutely not!

So Greta, Chris Wallace, Shepard Smith, Juan Williams are all Democrats?

cool. I didn’t know that.

 You forgot to include “media matters” in your comment again.

 What a highly intelligent response!

You are far better off on the MMFA site. It seems to fit your rhetoric and writing style.

Like MSDNC, do you also get your talking points every morning from MMFA and this administration?

Nitpicking much? :)

I am aware of why he was fired, but hey, if we’re going to be anal about it, if there’s such a huge difference between the spoken and written word, then people shouldn’t defend him claiming freedom of speech as the majority of definitions of speech imply vocal communication. :P

 They are the Soviet Communists of yesteryear, and the battle is engaged.
Their Junta Leader will be dethroned in with this year’s election, and it’ll be interesting to see if the Lefties will take to the street.

CW II on it’s way! – from the most DIVISIVE President in history.

The Working Class vs. the Entitlement Class!

Holy Crap, there’s so much BULLSH*T being flung and spread in just one thread alone that I’m surprised it’s not acting like fertilizer and causing things to grow on my computer screen…

>> MrPorkChops: “MSNBC has two shows hosted by Republicans.
How many shows on Fox News that’s hosted by Democrats?”

WTF? Who are the TWO right-leaning hosts? The ONLY right-leaner is Scarborough, who is a middle of the road RINO at best. Plus, his SOLE excuse for being on MSNBC was perfectly summed up by USS Republitarian (quote): “Morning Joe” features a former representative outnumbered by Manhattan Liberals every single morning. And the only reason he has the gig is because he loves to criticize Republicans, from the left.”

Make no mistake, “Morning Joe” absolutely IS.a LEFT leaning show. Because it’s ALL Libs, ALL the time, where they get a 3 hour block of air time to push their latest talking points or have fun slinging zingers at Joe, who is made to sit there and look like a dumb monkey for having ANY right-leaning beliefs to begin with.

In short, compared to progressive ACTIVE voice shows like Schultz or Maddow or even Dumbo “I can’t speak English” Rev. Al’s, “Morning Joe” is a progressive PASSIVE voice show. And given it’s daily lineup of OVERT Left-leaning co-hosts…and all of the Left-leaning guests PREDOMINANTLY booked on a daily basis…there’s no question that it’s a progressive-themed show at heart and in structure — which is why MSNBC keeps it as part of its lineup.

>> MrPorkChops: “Dylan Ratigan sure leans right to me.”

Sureeeeee. The guy who has SUPPORTED every single Obama bailout…who has criticized the Republican Congress for DARING to say “no” to the Democrats…who SUPPORTED the Wisconsin Unions, and who then turned around and SUPPORTED Occupy Wall Street…and who has kissed Obama butt every step of the way…is right leaning. Sheesh, it’s time for THAT pork chop to be put back into the oven for a little more baking. Because your claim about Ratigan is WAY undercooked!

>> Mo Fokker: “MSNBC has a record of hiring conservative hosts, including Michael Savage, Laura Ingram, and Alan Keyes.”

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? You’re ACTUALLY gonna go with THAT lame argument? Because, gee, last I checked, I don’t see ANY of them around. Nor anyone even LIKE them — true diehard conservatives — even appearing as freaking GUESTS anymore. Instead, MSNBC will fire someone like Pat Buchanan and replace him with people like Megan “I’m a Democrat, but say I’m Republican, so media outlets will hire me to bag ON Republicans because I love the spotlight and, truth be told, I’m a moron and talentless” McCain.

For crying out loud, you know it’s a wacky, fun-filled comment Friday at Mediaite — that’s a harbinger to a full moon or an all-out Zombie apocalypse — when the person with the most level-headed argument actually turns out to be TOMMY.

 Unless it is a grab for attention, I see no reason NOT to use the reply feature.

this is a joke right?

Fox news doesn’t have any shows hosted by a liberal.

 scathing rebuttal…just scathing.

 Hez just a troll…that’s how he rolls.

 obsess much?

FOX and MSNBC are both obviously bias.

the difference is conservatives are more likely to watch FOX and only FOX. While liberals are not loyal to any one station. I’m a liberal and I don’t watch MSNBC ever. Nor do I watch FOX. Liberals get their news from a wide range of sources. All my conservative friends get their news from FOX and talk radio and by doing so they are in this bubble where they think the information they are getting is accurate and down the middle.

 lol..he thinks cause he does it everybody else does it, too.

so you think republicans dont appear on msnbc? lol

because you cant let a liberal silence opinions, as that is what they want

Shep died?

 shocker!

Another very good whack-a-lib litany.

They just don’t seem to respond to reason, a number of the Obama acolytes here.
They have their indoctrinated beliefs and they either ignore, cajole, deny or misrepresent reality to comport with those views. Someday someone will tell them that they’re allowed to evolve those views, and catch up with the rest of us!

You don’t mind debating those with opposing viewpoints and an open mind, but the pet rocks, that’s another story.

I refer you to most of the rest of this thread where people on the right claim MSNBC’s Republicans don’t count and to where I said everyone asked by people like Maddow don’t return their calls even when appearing on her show is their idea.

I would say ‘lol’ but I’m not a teenager. :)

First once, you’re right. Conservatives goose step.

—

88% of your “likes” from “guests”. Speaks volumes, I say: “Volumes!”.

 Kevin is one of those who fail to realize that the majority of Republicans aren’t bible thumping, gun toting xenophobes who have no use for government.  The majority of Republicans are average folks, who go to church on occasion, know a couple of gun nuts who spend way too much money on guns and not enough on their kids, see The American Experiment/Experience as a great melting pot and like our roads paved, our sewage treated, our meat inspected and our poor taken care of (just not in MY neighborhood).

Joe is THAT kind of Republican.  Dare I say the word Moderate?

Really? Looks to me as if 100% of his “likes” are from real people.

To be fair, I think nobody would deny that the hirings of Savage, Keyes and Ingraham took place under a very different era for MSNBC than the one we now live in. And pointing to Joe Scarborough as evidence there are conservative voices there is overstating his influence and positions a bit, I think — he does attack the party from the left sometimes, he’s much more what I’d consider a right-leaning centrist. It seems to me to be similar to how Fox News used to plug their ears and point at Alan Colmes when people accused them of bias (though Scarborough is the undeniable star of his show, unlike Colmes being Hannity’s evident second banana). 

What is, I thin, the more productive and honest argument to make is that while MSNBC is a left-leaning network, and has hosts prone to partisan or ideological generalizations, the broad quality of discussion is higher, and the core information more often true and right-minded, than it is on Fox. I’d swear to that now, whatever warts I may think do sometimes pop up in the MSNBC brand.

This phenomenon really works both ways. As Wallace notes, MSNBC, Fox and NPR can hire and fire as they please, and people can complain about their comments. I don’t think Williams is a racist, but I can see how the comments upset people. I don’t think Beck is a racist, but I believe he says incendiary things because it makes him money, kind of like Alex Jones. I think Buchanan is one of those guys who doesn’t think he is a racist but has views that he applies to all black people. I don’t think the guy is a raving KKK member but he has a long history of making comments white supremacists like, so I’m not sad to see him go. 

I think you may be making the classic error here: thinking that because Ratigan so routinely goes after the government of the day that he’s politically partisan. In fact, before the Obama administration, Ratigan gained a position on msnbc by getting known widely for going after the government of the day when it was under the Bush administration. And I can assure you that if Ratigan is still on msnbc when President Chris Christie or President Kirsten Gillibrand is sworn, from that point Ratigan will routinely go after the government of the day under the Christie administration or the Gillibrand administration or whoever happens to be in the White House**. 

Ratigan’s bent is anti-authoritarian. Not Republican, not conservative, not Bircher, not Tea Party, not Democratic, not liberal, not progressive, not socialist, not libertarian (tho probably closer to libertarian than any of the other options): anti-authority. That frame of reference is not at all cranky, & in fact has a long & honorable history, primarily these days due to the actual (as opposed to mythological) lingering influence of one Eric Blair (pen name George Orwell), who, like with Ratigan, used to get claimed by conservatives, liberals, libertarians & nihilists, but who was also in fact simply anti-authoritarian.  

A variation on this type if Cenk Uygur (who credits Ratigan for much of his on-screen approach). Uygur is openly liberal, with both libertarian & socialist sympathies (despite being himself deeply entrepreneurial), & says so constantly; but – he goes after the government of the day & after Obama & after the Democratic party & Democrats in Congress pretty much equally with how often he goes after Republicans. 

“Morning Joe features a former Republican Representative who’s outnumbered by Manhattan liberals every single morning.” 
uh … Mike Barnacle is a right-leaning Boston centrist, a real Boston Herald type; Willie Geist is a Republican, & it shows; Mark Halprin is a Drudge acolyte & a GOP handservant; Richard Haas is openly neo-con; Donny Deutch is a DCC centrist; Mika is a centrist fuddy-duddy; Jeffrey Sachs is a liberal who supports moderate centrism. The closest any regular gets to ‘liberal’ on that show is whenever Howard Dean shows up, & he’s hardly extremist in that, yet he sticks out like a sore thumb in that crowd. 

So, what’s the show on Fox hosted by a Democrat again?

Betcha not. Betcha you’re suffering from what most people suffer from: projection.

Link us to your outrage over this
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/07/25/mcclellan-white-house-gave-fox-commentators-talking-points

Some do, but it’s a very noticably different dynamic, as StripedSquirrel suggested — you rarely see Republicans with anything to lose in an electoral sense going on MSNBC for anything other than an out and out confrontation. Ron Paul and Rand Paul are exceptions that I can think of off the top of my head (both appeared with Maddow some time ago), and both of them were asked some very tough questions. In Rand Paul’s case I don’t think he ever appeared on Maddow’s show again, likely for that very reason — he knew she was going to ask him probing questions about his personal political philosophies, which is an area that both Pauls, frankly, seem to try to deflect from whenever its brought up in detail.

 They really don’t need any, as the near entirety of the remaining media is peopled with staff and reporters actively advocating for Democratic positions in their newscasts and entertainment programming.

LOL

“Today, there is  no more partisan cable network, than MSDNC!” 
You’re full of crap about Soros & MMFA, but the above statement I think catches it about right. When Comcast took over, it FURTHERED the GE approach of cozying up to the establishment – which for just over 3 years now has been increasingly DNC, not surprisingly given who’s in the White House. Comcast is first & foremost in business, & it has to deal with government all the time, especially with license applications. It just makes business sense for Comcast to do this; if say Newt Gingrich were to be elected president & the Rrrrs were to retain the House & take over the Senate, it would make sense also for Comcast to switch to an RNC preference. MSNBC is not so much a liberal channel as it’s an establishment channel.

Not at all. Schultz & Maddow are both highly approved of in DNC circles, & while as now the DNC IS the establishment, that’s made them even more secure in their spots. But msnbc getting rid of Cenk Uygur was during the time that the Comcast take-over was impending, which suggests to me that Ratigan is about as close as one gets these days on msnbc to expendable. But it depends on the fall election. Comcast’s entire business model for msnbc is very similar to  that of the Washington Post, which is probably the most extreme example of a government-of-the-day establishment-dependent media outlet.

 *Poor people who think they’re middle class to blame poor minorities without ever EXPLICITLY saying to blame minorities.

Geraldo Rivera has a show and he’s pretty much a liberal.   Juan Williams guest hosts for O’reilly and others and he id liberal.    There are lots of liberal voices regularly on Fox news.   

I think he has his own “show” on some website, now.

I always wondered why the “Carol Burnett Show” wasn’t called the “Vicki Lawrence Show”.

sock puppet!

olbyloon!

Perhaps Chuck, it is not that Joe Scarborough is not a conservative, but your and many of the right wingers who comment here at mediaite, line of  rational thought is so bent to the extreme right due to years of indoctrination by extremist right wing ideologue pundits and theocratic fundamentalists who “still wear the coats of their barbarous ancestors.”  And anybody who would deviate from this line of thought with any kind of rational or compromising observations is rejected by your kind and deemed unworthy.  Here’s a quote.

“Today’s so-called ‘conservatives’ don’t even know what the word means.  They think I’ve turned liberal because I believe a woman has a right to an abortion.  That’s a decision that’s up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious Right.  It’s not a conservative issue at all.” – Barry Goldwater

With that quote, Barry Goldwater would be deemed a liberal today by the hard right that is driving the Republican Party into the ditch.

In my opinion, Fox News doesn’t exist to inform you and raise your consciences, as suggested by our 1st Amendment with “freedom of the press,” but to cultivate that radical right wing ideology.  From its inception to its playing the fear card daily after 9/11 exploiting the fragile psyches of so many Americans, to promoting the Bush agenda, to manufacturing dissent against the Pres. Obama (before he even took office), to hijacking and promoting the tea party movement, to it 24/7 practice of undermining and seeing this president and the Democrats fail. 

10 guest likes?  You’ve gotten lazy and are not even trying to hide your scam.

This is all getting too Beckerheaderesque. You use “Junta” and Jeff responds. Jeff’s was once smitten with a woman JUaNiTA. And, we all know that “ai” is the abbreviation for …. Beckerheadereqsue!

Nor I, I remember being amazed anyone took him seriously when he ran for President, but to each his own…   Good post.

You are so blinded by your narrow thinking you fail to see or even consider anything else but your own beliefs.  You’ll learn nothing and gain nothing by automatically rejecting the ideas and thoughts from others.  This is obvious by the fact that all of your post just reject other commenters without ever giving an explanation why they are wrong and you are right.  This gives your comments very little creditability.  Next time explain yourself and why the commenter is wrong in your view.

“Liberals” yeah right. They are bought and paid for Rupert Murdock approved “liberals” hired to be the team that plays “against” the Harlem Globetrotters or professional wrestling punching bags.

The first thing a real liberal on Fox news would do is point out that Fox news is the propaganda and disinformation arm of the GOP.

Comedian Lee Camp: Fox News a ‘festival of ignorance’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srHpjDL6-ZM

I think you may have a thin spot in your tin-foil hat.

Wait I though you said no one watches them and that Faux’s ratings dominates all. Victim!

Where did I say anythig about ratings????  Half of your list are contributors, not hosts. Pay attention.  You are a delusional, typical liberal.

proof was right here at mediaite

He appears as an analyst on FOX quite a bit, particularly on Hannity’s show.

And they’re all professional journalist with standards who don’t try to hide where they’re coming from or by pretending to be giving unbiased news or facts. And if they do cite facts, they tell you the source of their facts.  And when interviewee’s are planning to be interview by these journalist, they know they have to be prepared for tough questions and not just softball questions.  That’s basically the difference between the journalist mentioned above and the “journalist” at FOX.

Yeah…Like MSNBC has shows hosted by conservatives.
SURE!!
(Scarborough is a RINO)
CNN’s so-called “conservatives” and everybody at MSNBC are paid by Soros.

Professional??  They all have their heads up Obama’s A$$.  If that your idea of responsible jornalism, ok.  Do not pretend they are superior to Fox anchors, who do state their opinion.   What anchor on Fox pretends to be something they are not???

Thanks,I didn’t know that and you just gave yourself away.

Um, Dylan Ratigan has been pretty open about the fact that he considers himself a conservative.

To be entirely fair, if any democrat ever even THOUGHT the things that Pat Buchanan has been saying for years about Israel, s/he would be tarred and feathered.

Yo Ben! Joe’s a first class douchebag.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/msnbcs-dylan-ratigan-i-am-a-conservative/

Ms. McCain is not a RINO but merely a dunce.

One of the few things Wallace had said that I agree with.  

Apparently to you a ‘liberal’ is anyone who doesn’t want Obama impeached or deported. The only ‘liberals’ on FNC are the fuppets Rogers Ailes sends out to get bashed on the head with talking points, particularly Alan Colmes, the most masochistic Faux liberal in captivity.

Cindy Nowicki EPIC Fail!!!!    Striped Squirrel shots and scores!!!  Wow Cindy….Wow!!!

 Carol who?  Vicki who?

I would like to post this on every political board out there.

So. this is what Obama’s ‘Truth Team’ is going to sound like, droll tres droll… The Establishment Channel…

Latest study just released by the Obama “Truth Team” no doubt.

Chris Wallace is an intolerant worthless libloon

What planet do you live on???

Moderate republicans were eliminated in that fetid eighties decade,Thanks to saint ronnie.Try again.

I’m not sure who you are referring to as being FOX’s anchors.  Are you referring to FOX personalities such as Shep Smith or Steve Doocy as being anchors.  The people you mentioned are not anchors but journalist.  They would fit more along the description of what Steve Doocy and the two others on “Fox and Friends”.  Be more specific and tell me which ones you’re referring to. 

Your country,is a cesspool full of jerks that vote against Things that could move the country forward.Goofballs tune in limbaugh all the time to reinforce deep seated stupidity,and blatent ignorance.good that buchanan and his fatass are gone.but he is only a small tip of the nazi/bagger/republican plan for this country.Stupid,ignorant aholes voted for reagan,god help us in 2012 and the  clown the republican party nominates.laughable…

That’s how we feel about fixed news,or it’ original name gop-tv.

The republican party depends on low info,ignorant morons to survive.You know the type at work that makes you go..hhhhmmmm…Why the fixed news network exists is due to the fact that it is a republican funded shithole,that has escaped fcc investigation.You can bash msnbc all you want,and i have basically due to it’s 1percenter oriented commercials,the lexus car ads,the talk to chuck crap,and the exxon mobil,anga garbage.But at least in this day and age msnbc is probably the only place you can get reliable reporting,and not the crap from cnn,and fixed news.msnbc i cheer for getting rid of this rascist pussbag buchanan.Lets see where he shows up next huh????…Wanna bet????

Are you kidding.  That is a joke.  No conservatives.  Just look at who Chris Wallace’s dad was.  Enough said.

 sock alert

 u saying “top” is a “real” person? lol

Really? http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dylan-ratigan-the-answer-to-americas-woes-is-obviously-revolution/

You probably think Obama’s a right winger too, huh?

So, your claim is that Ratigan is a Republican?

At least one, with two shows a day. Probably 3 altogether.

As for Republicans, only Huckabee and Hannity claim it. No one else does.

Yes, he did, and he seems to have forgotten about it.

 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/29/glenn-beck-regrets-callin_n_698580.html#s132361&title=Regrets_Calling_Obama

Hysterical lies? No. In fact, Beck shouldn’t have retracted it. His clarification is correct, but it doesn’t negate his initial claim.

You know who those bitter people who “cling to guns or
religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant
sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their
frustrations” are? White people. Dude is a straight up racist. It’s in his limbic brain.

am sure Pat Buchanan will be welcomed where he should have always probably have been: FIX NEWS is calling! Pat Buchanan out at MSNBC, the network official statement here

http://su.pr/1mMsKH

Read what I wrote: I wrote “Not Republican”.

read “‘red army’ behind OWS movement” on FOX follow the trails and you will see that communist have ALREADY taken over and are in power now. Nothing thats happenned so far is by mistake, form the massive debt and spending to just about all of the policies that appear incompent. The trail leads from the Unions, right through occupy, to the Congressional Progressive Caucus and to Obama himself. Once you understand about Saul Alinsky and other communiity organizers likeCornel West, everything comes into focus from how this tool got elected in the first place to the constant attempts to discredit any opposition I believe its already to late to vote him out. Dont take my word for it people.

The whos who of the Con Pro Cau is very evealing from Pelosi to Maxine West (the demons bhoener and cantor) A large bloc of congress AND president Obama are in FACT socialists and ARE here to destroy everything real americans believe in. The one page that needs to be read is on my FB page

Chris, you are not worthy of being connected with FOX News. You should resign and go take Pat’s place at BSnbc.Maybe in 30 or so years you could take David Gregory’s place when he retires. Nah, you are not worthy. But, you and your Sunday morning panel are pretty much worthless. You have BSnbc like ratings…you know, at the bottom of the barrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvBQDHqdCck, proffessional journalists? Would you like me to do Maddow next, because I can?

Thats a misrepresentation. He got a lot of air time after he was whacked out by NPR is what you meant to say. Nobody on FOX even noticed at the time the comment was made because, well, there was nothing wrong with it…

While it would be admirable for media organizations to follow the spirit of the U.S. “First Amendment”, seen as fully supporting the idea of free speech, there are two aspects that we need to keep in mind. First, the First Amendment ACTUALLY begins “CONGRESS shall pass no law… abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…” In other words, the Bill of Rights restricts the actions of government, not private individuals or businesses. Second, a few questions need to be answered: did Mr. Buchanan not have an employment contract? was there any clause in such a contract prohibiting certain behavior which might bring disrepute to the employer? and, in the absence of any such contract, does not the employer have the right to terminate any employee should they see fit?
I suspect the entire controversy is simply that this is an American election year, so extra attention is being paid to any perceived “battles” between the “right wing” and “left wing” media. Other than that, I’d see this situation as an attempt to work together that simp[ly didn’t pay off, so they parted ways. Nothing more than that needs be said.

 home schooled?

I dont think thats true…Beck is a bombthrower but he had a lot of evidence to back up (what seemed to be) his paranoid claims, and every single day he was attacked by MSNBC, why would they do that if he wasnt saying something they didnt want me to hear?

BSMSNBC is barely a  news organization at all, they only exist to spew misinformation and lies, would you like some examples?

Onceyou take off your blinders its easy to find out who is lying, and its usually the people screaming “Lies!” and “Racist!”. Unfortunately most of the people spewing this crap dont have blinders on, they know the truth, but they want to put he blinders on everyone else.

I always felt paranoid by the end of Beck but as I learn more and more about the deliberate, paid, misinformation coming from MSNBC/Media Matters/White House I realize that not only am >I< not paranoid enough, neither was Glenn Beck.

The people running the show in America now are not amusing incompetents they are following a very deliberate path, Obama doesnt lean left he is a FULL SCALE socialist and most of the people aiding him in spreading his smokescreen of disinformation and personal attacks are actually  part of the network.

The Congressional Progressive Congress is your whos whos of Socialists in American pollitics and just reading the names makes a lot of things make sense. Never again will I assume that you race card-throwing, sarah palin hating, OWS loving scumbags are as stpid as you appear to be.

For the conservatives who dont quite believe its all about killing the constitution and putting in a communist state, read the article "Red army behind occupy movement" its on FOX and I have posted a link on my FB page as well. Also check out Saul Alinski. I now believe it is too late to save the republic, the communists are all in place and if Obama is in danger of losing the election there wont actually be one, and if he wins this will be the last one.

I know I sound paranoid, so find out for yourself.

BSMSNBC is barely a news organization at all, they only exist to spew misinformation and lies, would you like some examples?

Onceyou take off your blinders its easy to find out who is lying, and its usually the people screaming “Lies!” and “Racist!”. Unfortunately most of the people spewing this crap dont have blinders on, they know the truth, but they want to put he blinders on everyone else.

I always felt paranoid by the end of Beck but as I learn more and more about the deliberate, paid, misinformation coming from MSNBC/Media Matters/White House I realize that not only am >I< not paranoid enough, neither was Glenn Beck.

The people running the show in America now are not amusing incompetents they are following a very deliberate path, Obama doesnt lean left he is a FULL SCALE socialist and most of the people aiding him in spreading his smokescreen of disinformation and personal attacks are actually part of the network.

The Congressional Progressive Congress is your whos whos of Socialists in American pollitics and just reading the names makes a lot of things make sense. Never again will I assume that you race card-throwing, sarah palin hating, OWS loving scumbags are as stpid as you appear to be.

For the conservatives who dont quite believe its all about killing the constitution and putting in a communist state, read the article "Red army behind occupy movement" its on FOX and I have posted a link on my FB page as well. Also check out Saul Alinski. I now believe it is too late to save the republic, the communists are all in place and if Obama is in danger of losing the election there wont actually be one, and if he wins this will be the last one.

I know I sound paranoid, so find out for yourself.

Sounds like Chris’s genes are finally kicking in. Buchanan should have been black-lisrted the day Nixon resigned.

Well, let me clue you in. Greta is just another right-wing shill for Fox. Chris’s genes may finally kicked in. 
Buchanan should have been black-listed the day Nixon resigned. He is a truly nasty, wicked bigot with a talent to amuse. Beware such men. They are dangerous.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvBQDHqdCck,

OK yourturn.

I have no outrage over commentators commentating, want to see 2 “news anchor” spend 3 minutes recanting a completely made up and false story on air?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvBQDHqdCck

 FOX is under way too much scrutiny to employ anyone using the tactics of the left against Obama. Calling the POTUS racist is pretty hard to justify and even harder to prove. Only in this country could a private citizen get away with saying it out loud.

Fox is a place where undereducated, often well-meaning  simpletons can reinforce each other’s ignorance.I think  Fox is doing us all a service, keeping them out of the educated,  informed  conversations on more enlightened networks. 

You cant broadcast that kind of stuff about POTUS, come on. FOX had to take him off, they are under enough scrutiny as it is.

That’s a little harsh. He can’t, in all fairness, be grouped with the lunatic fringe. He may be a Tea Party Republican, but he’s a Republican, nevertheless.

Why am I not surprised?

As far as I  can see, GOP moderates have all gone into hiding, praying that the Tea party and the lunatic fringe will have disappeared by 2016.

I hate to do ad hominem stuff, but if you think Joe isn’t conservative, I have to relegate you to the lunatic fringe bin.

Apparently, you watch FOX.  Read this:

Are racists dumb?
Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new
study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions
may be a qualified yes.

The study,
published in Psychological
Science, showed that
people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop
prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.

I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized
tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot
debate among psychologists.

Dr. Gordon
Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study’s lead
author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low
intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress
resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice, he told LiveScience.

Why might less
intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies
feature “structure and order” that make it easier to comprehend a
complicated world, Dodson said. “Unfortunately, many of these features can
also contribute to prejudice,” he added.

Dr. Brian Nosek,
a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments.

“Reality is
complicated and messy,” he told The Huffington Post in an email.
“Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it
may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted
to simplifying ideologies.”

I really hope Fox doesn’t give Buchanan a chance. It’s time for that hatemonger to walk into the sunset & never be heard from again. He really dragged down the level of discourse in this country & it’s staggering to see how many conservatives would defend this bigot on Mediaite message boards when Fox News personalities wouldn’t even do so. Can’t blame Fox for prejudice anymore,

http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

They can’t help who they are.

You certainly are an open-minded guy. Turning on somebody the very minute that they exhibit level-headed reason that conflicts with your own chest-beathing, knuckle dragging pride. Weren’t you Neanderthals supposed to be extinct?

TL;DR

So a police officer in Oakland firing a tear gas cannister at an ex/ Maring OWS protester’s head is assault of a cop in your eyes. Interesting. I would simply LOOOVE to hear the explanation of your reverse logic. Please, Pork Chop… Indulge me.

i think greta is a democrat. geraldo is one. the thing is, it doesn’t really matter what party the host favors. what matters is what points of view are allowed on the show and who the guests are.
there is absolutely no conservative points of view discussed on msnbc. msnbc has basically no conservative guests on its shows. if someone is on who is not a full tilt lefty parrot, they are not allowed to be a balanced part of the discussion.

even on the opinion shows that fox news has, the liberal point of view is allowed to be presented and both points of view are allowed to be debated. the host may show they have a conservative point of view, but there is always someone there to offer a contradicting view point, and they are given ample consideration.

nowhere on msnbc will you find any view point presented other than the liberal one.
nowhere will you find consideration given to any point of view other than the liberal one. nowhere will you find a conservative brought on to try to add any opposing insight to anything or to debate or have a chance to question any of the comments the liberal host makes.

Obama is a racist. He hasn’t said one word against Iran and will never defend Israel on any issue over the Palestinians or Ahmablowjob.

I just don’t know how anyone could find Gallagher remotely entertaining. It is befuddling how someone who spews hate and ridicule 24/7 could attract as many listeners as he apparently does.

When did the amount of venom one can spew become the benchmark for popularity and I am not exempting Ed Schultz from MSNBC or Dana Loesch from CNN.

She’s whatever L. Ron Hubbard wants her to be.

Palin’s pal Greta isn’t a rightwinger?
What planet do you live on?

Why Fox hired this Liberal creep Chris Wallace is beyond me, the apple doesnt fall too far from the tree, his Liberal Dad has been a fixture on 60 Minutes for decades, thanks to Daddy
soupy Chrissie got his job from Papa….Tick, Tick ………Oh yeah, lets have an Okie Dokie Stomp.

Why would you celebrate a murdering thug like your avatar, Man your sick,you need to be wacked with a Polk Chop, wise up boy!

His entire administration is racist which comes mostly from their Marxist values.  It is also related to their union affiliations.  Generally speaking, union members are very racist.  Everyone I know is and they don’t care to hide it.  But the liberals require the “freely given” union gifts taken directly out of union dues.  My union friends don’t like it but accept it on the basis of their higher wages and benefits. 

Yes, he is turning  into a first class RINO.  He has eaten too much of his wife’s soup.  Sounds too much like a tired old man.

None of this will change here.  We have to pound the door or Roger Alies.

You live your life in AN  INSULT BUBBLE.

You’re not paranoid, you are telling the REAL TRUTH.

Barry and his Boyz are really Marxist Socialists.  And we must pound that drum everytime we post and speak to people we know.  The most effective too tool the Libs have used with Barry is the Race Card.  It to expose who he really is with the Socialist Card.  When I bring this up to the uninformed, they scratch their heads but do go look up the facts.  Just tell them to Goggle, Marxism, Socialism or Karl Marx.  Works everytime and makes them think.  This is especially effective with the youth.  When they discover they are on the wrong side of their family values, they change their tune.

Say it loud, I’m Capitalist and I’m Proud.  

Say it lounder Barry is a Maxist and I’m going to Stop Him.  

Come on, Hout. Mark Hawkins and USS_Republitarian already have their views. Fox is fair and balanced (and really pushing back against the great liberal media onslaught when you get down to it) and msnbc is Fox’s balance (except Fox isn’t really biased…).

There are no conservatives on msnbc, and if there are, then they aren’t really conservatives.

No matter how much data and facts you want to bring up, these people have already made their decisions. Your “liberal rationality” is just going to confuse them and make them have to either change their views or run away (or deflect to Obama somehow…)

Well said Chris Wallace…

He had a lot of impressive things to say about the current and very acrimonious political climate.

…Well said indeed!

True, Obama is just as racist towards Israel as he is towards whites in this country

To prove otherwise and to prove his non-racist bona fides, he should bomb Iran and Gaza to smithereens, encourage illegal settlements, outlaw any descending voices that protest Israeli settlers from systematic ethnicity-based segregation and discrimination in the city of Jerusalem & throughout Israel….

And  for good measure, ban all from the non-Caucasians variety from any posts in his administration

I dont see it happening, hes not really up to their standards. They havent even figured out what to do with Juan yet. (dump him for being lame is my suggestion)

LOL at the Media Matters talking points. Investigate all you want FCC. Hey want to see some really fine racist journalism….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvBQDHqdCck

MSNBC worrks for Obama the truth is out, and will not be put back. You think Greta is a democrat? I hear that Shepard Smith is also, I watch him about 3 times a week and it doesnt show.

What is it that Pat Buchanan said that has liberals in the media so riled up?  If he called Obama a racist, what is Buchanan’s argument for that.  It seems the media has become so ‘politically correct’ that they’re afraid to print something they disagree with…which makes me wonder if they see the ‘truth’ in what is said?  I don’t know, but am curious.  Also, no one mentions the name of Buchanan’ book.  What is it?

Read what I wrote: I wrote “Not Republican”.

Do you see where the comment you’re replying to says “in reply to Hout Bosques” at the bottom of it? No, you don’t. Do you know what that means?

Of course, this thread, on both sides, is full of the typical conflation of shows meant to convey news with shows meant to convey opinion.   Fox has never claimed that Hannity or similar shows were “news shows”, and I certainly hope that MSNBC hasn’t claimed that their stable of leftists are legitimate “news people” either.  Where the networks differ — beyond the huge disparity in ratings – is that Fox has a more legitimate news gathering arm that when evaluated by nonpartisan outside organizations does tend to be more “fair and balanced” than their counterparts (see the reviews of the news coverage leading up to the 2008 presidential election as an example).  In fact, MSNBC seems to have very little primary news gathering at all.  And the day that Fox allows their ”opinion” hosts to anchor coverage of a news event will be a first; yet, MSNBC had no problems allowing Matthews et al. to host coverage of the Republican National Convention and other events.  Now that was a joke. 

For the record, Chris Wallace is one of the best even handed interviewers in TV news.  Joe Scarborough is a RINO.  And why would any Republican or conservative go on MSNBC at all?  If they get “interviewed” by Matthews or Maddow, they get ambushed and can barely get a word in edgewise.

As to the original post, this firing of Buchanan has nothing to do with First Amendment rights.  Unless the government was involved somehow, which, I can only assume they weren’t, MSNBC is completely within their rights to release him from their employ.  Beyond that, Buchanan isn’t entitled to have airtime anyplace else, but it would be and will be interesting to hear his spin.  Going forward, we’ll need to see if MSNBC uses consistent standards going forward with regard to other hosts and inflammatory statements that they may make with regard to “less favored” groups (e.g. conservatives of any ilk).  Of course, if their hiring and firing is based upon viewer complaints, they have so few that right-leaning viewers will likely have little impact on decision-making.

And if you miss Buchanan, watch the McLaughlin Group on PBS.  Probably one of the only non-leftist shows they allow across their airwaves.

Joe S is no conservative.  I can’t stand listening to him try to be on both sides of the fence.  Pat B is also a cameleon.  You never know who or what he stands for.

Love the back and forth as each one of you take you own partisan political view point. What your ALL missing is the statement set forth after the firing by MSNBC, “We feel his point of view is not to be heard”. Doesn’t that statement by a cable network, that is owned by the NBC Corporation bother any of you? Or is freedom of speech only for some and not all?

You can’t be that fcuking dumb. Do you really think the name “Morning Joe” has nothing to do with Joe Scarborough being the host? Of course they’re making a pun out of it, but come on.

 Considering your avatar, so does Castro.

It’s frightening isn’t it?

Gee, ya think so, Chris??  Brilliant!

Our freedom of speech in the First Amendment is about the government curtailing your speech.  It has nothing to do with the private sector.  Businesses can fire for the things that you say.  There have been people fired and not even hired because of what they have up on Facebook, etc.

Ha! That’s funny.

Maybe their statement should have been, his view point should not be heard on this network!
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Patty Buchanan is living evidence which proves the hypothesis
presented by Hunger S. Thompson; “When the going gets weird, the weird turn
pro. “

Not since Glenn Beck left. Michelle Malkin rarely goes on too. I sense things about to get even more loony as the GOP elite battle the tea party when Rick and Newt knock out Romney. You can tell Fox News is having a hard time with this battle. The nice thing is Hannity has Buchanan’s back and was on the show Friday night.

Like Rev. Wright, Jackson & Sharpton?

I think it’s just a matter of the quality of speech. Buchanan, Loesch and Beck don’t really have anything intelligent to say. We don’t want to hear them prattling on about desecrating corpses; the supremacy of Caucasians or silly theories about the President of the United States. People have said they don’t want to hear such nonsense. That’s why these people are off the air. No one’s blacklsiting them or suppressing their right to speak. They just aren’t appealing to the public. I’m waiting for Chris matthews to put HIS foot in his mouth. For my money, praising Buchanan, who is an white supremacist, any way you look at it, qualifies.

If Buchanan, et el, had something to say that viewers valued, they’d still be on the air. They were cancelled. That’s show biz.

Sheppard Smith & Greta

It’s no more frightening than it would be if Griffin had said he didn’t think Louis Farrakhan’s  ideas should “be part of the national dialog, much less part of the dialog on MSNBC”.

Glenn Beck called Obama a “racist” in 2009 but he wasn’t ousted until 2011.
Come on, people. This is just to stir up fighting between blacks and whites, as usual.
Did anyone besides myself follow ANYTHING Beck said in the 2 years between 2009 offending Obama and 2011, losing his job?
In the meantime, Glenn Beck was labeled the #2 “Blackest white folks we know” by The Root Magazine, and commended by Henry Louis Gates for holding a “Forgotten black heroes of history” month. Beck also defended Shirley Sherrod when Obama fired her (Obama tried to throw the blame for his rash decision on Beck, but Beck just happened to be uncovering forgotten black heroes of American history at the time, and couldn’t be thrown off course just to back Obama in the rash firing decision, so he told Obama NOT to fire her, not like Obama could have Beck fired anyway).
So what DID Beck say to lose his job?
Well he said lots of things: he said George Soros, he said Holodomor, he did a special about Communism but I think it was that word Holodomor that really was the coster.

Pat is a tired old fart who has found himself caught in a timewarp.  The man needed to leave, his words are disgustingly irresponsible.

Uh oh…watch out Chris–you say ANYTHING against Beck–and he, AND his “followers” WILL come after you!! Ask Bill Kristol and Geraldo!

I Completely agree with Chris though. People seem to think the first amendment allows a person to say ANYTHING, no matter how hateful or incendiary; BUT, does NOT give that same right to others who oppose what they say. And YES, corporations have the right to “punish” you, and/or fire you; especially if what you’ve said is affecting their bottom line, (as with Beck).

Obama’s practically a sane Republican. Backing him against Santorum or Mr 1% isn’t being a Dem or even centrist. It just means you’re open and maybe a bit intelligent.

 Okay now you’re just being obstinate, concede the point and move on…

let’s do the time warp again.

“All your conservative friends” are not ALL conservatives.  There are some, like myself, who do listen to MSNBC, CNN, C-Span AND Fox.  I am NOT one of those whom you accuse of being in a bubble.  More importantly I’ve come to realize that the internet is producing the best and most current news, subject to a need for diligence and scrutiny.  I’ve read news on the internet that’s taken weeks to reach the TV news media.

Nick F

Fox News host Chris Wallace said today that recently-departed MSNBC contributor Pat
Buchanan has said things “I’m not particularly fond of” and “has said some very
incendiary things about Israel, about Jews, about Blacks, about other
minorities.” Wallace also rebutted Buchanan’s claim that he
was “blacklisted,” saying that management has a right to fire him and groups
have a right to protest his comments if they’re offended.
Those who are offended
by Wallace’s comments also have a right to complain to FOX News.

…”Now, I don’t know
that Glenn Beck was fired, but certainly, did it help his situation that he
made such incendiary remarks that, you know, calling Obama a racist?” Wallace
asked. Does Glenn Beck have a right to his opinion and does he have a
right to express his opinion? Can we assume that because Obama is president he
can’t be a racist; can we assume because Obama is president he must be a
citizen and therefore legitimate?

“One, I don’t think
it’s true. Two, I don’t think it’s a constructive thing to say, and it’s
irresponsible for a guy who’s on, you know, as part of a lineup and if you’re
going to say that kind of thing — there’s plenty of things you’re able to say. Perhaps he should have
just said Obama doesn’t like white people, or Obama is biased towards blacks;
would that be better than calling him a racist? Is calling Obama a racist, hate
speech, or is it just declaring a fact as understood by the commentator? To me,
“hate speech” is declaring that someone HATES another person or group
of people. The intimidation used by those accusing of “hate speech” is
being played much like the “race card.” The purpose being to chill
“freedom of speech” by creating a censor zone. Certain groups (in
this case minorities) are sacrosanct and protected while others are fair game
by default.

MSNBC is not a news station… they don’t offer any straight news shows from 3pm through the rest of the day… Fox offers straight news from 4-5 and from 6-8

Your perception of  Chris Wallace, Juan Williams and Shepard Smith as democrats probably as to do with the fact that those men are journalists by trade. Journalist ,,it may come as a surprise to you, are trained to be objective, they report the fact without being a part of the story. True journalist  tend to report the story independent of their opinion.. Being human you will find occasional bias seep through. Every body  else on Fox are headline grabbing sensationalists with little regard to the facts.

I have no idea where you get the idea that I think Wallace, Williams and Smith are all democrats because, besides that, I completely agree with everything else you said. True journalists aren’t the Fox & Friends types, etc.

is did pat bucannon  pass away he did work for msnbc. doe,s any one no for sure