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If MSNBC Sacks Pat Buchanan, Will They Have To Answer For Al Sharpton?

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We still don’t know what Phil Griffin and MSNBC will ultimately do with regard to the Pat Buchanan situation. What we do know is that if Buchanan is taken out permanently, there will be blow-back. And let’s start with what will likely become the focal point for those who take issue with Buchanan getting taken off permanently.

To remind everyone, here is what Phil Griffin said at the TCA concerning Buchanan.

“The ideas he put forth aren’t really appropriate for national dialogue, much less the dialogue on MSNBC.”

If that is now Griffin’s litmus test with regards to Buchanan, it will be one that people will use to examine the records of all other MSNBC contractual talent. And here’s where the trouble begins for MSNBC because if the person at MSNBC with the most baggage and history of controversial, provocative, and (some would argue) hate producing commentary at the network is Pat Buchanan, the person with the second largest amount of baggage and history of controversial, provocative, and (some would argue) hate producing commentary at the network is Al Sharpton. By using the “appropriate for national dialogue” litmus test on Buchanan, MSNBC is all but inviting the same litmus test to be applied to Sharpton. And Sharpton would fail that test just as Buchanan apparently has.

This would put MSNBC in a real quandary. If it takes Buchanan out, but leaves Sharpton in place, it’s opening itself up for a whole bunch of questions it really doesn’t want to answer. It will be forced to discuss how Buchanan’s controversial history is not appropriate to the point that he has to be taken off the air, but Sharpton’s at times even-more inflammatory rhetoric and history, remains on. MSNBC doesn’t want to discuss that. It’s a lose-lose scenario.

The subject would next parry to how MSNBC could justify keeping Sharpton on the air if it got rid of Buchanan. Another lose-lose scenario. The conventional wisdom is Sharpton appeals to the Progressive demographic and that’s a core constituency MSNBC does not want to alienate right now because of the perceived threat from the even more leftward bent Current TV. Some would say MSNBC is paranoid about Current TV. I think the threat is vastly overstated because Current hasn’t shown that it can even do the most basic rudimentary cable programing things correctly. Look at Keith Olbermann’s set, or the network’s premature cut-out of the Iowa caucuses. And then there’s the hiring of Jennifer Granholm who isn’t exactly a progressive firebrand of the type that Olbermann and Cenk Uygur are. Given all that, plus the Al Gore-backed channel’s poor distribution, one could easily argue that Fox Business Network is a bigger threat to CNBC than Current is to MSNBC.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WH3ZLMM7CUKUHUIMK4TKXW6SQE John

    I think you forgot to mention the exact quotes of Al Sharpton that make him controversial.  It would provide the needed context for your article.

  • Gloves Clay Donahue

    Sharpton has more baggage than a Samsonite factory, but he can’t be fired. As bad a host, as ridiculous a “talent”, as pitiful an intellect, as ineffective an interviewer he is, he was hired for keeps.

    MSNBC would have a 24/day march around their building from then on. Al would be bellowing on every radio, TV show, soapbox in the park and to everybody on the subway about the racists at NBC.

    Stuck.

  • Anonymous

    I was never a fan of Al. 

  • Anonymous

    How cute, to compare Buchanan to Sharpton as equal idealogues.  Buchanan offends women, blacks, hispanics and non-Christians.  Sharpton offends Republicans.  This is a political stance and deserves no attention.  Don’t be so smug about Current either, I’m sure their production values will improve swiftly and they are attracting great talent. 

  • Anonymous

    You must have had an experience of marchers around ya? Paranoid much? No? 

  • http://twitter.com/freenezwandring Bill

    The comment above is right to point out the lack of quoted material.  I will give the author some minimal credit and grant for argument’s sake that Sharton some time ago said some things that would ruffle some feathers.  Let’s be clear: white feathers.  (Me: WM, 42, Cali.)  Sharpton’s transgressions, if we see them as that, are pretty far past.  Buchanan’s are emphatically present, and he’s getting worse.  One might see some similarity, as in one can call both apples and oranges fruit, but hardly equivalence.

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t this happen the last time Pat wrote a book a couple years ago?  After the bully left insisted he be fired their hypocrisy was exposed and they hired him back, I don’t recall the details so may be wrong but that’s what I recall.  Regardless, I think a major (and it pains me to call MSNBC major) network should not feel compelled to tow the line of extremist groups, while Daily Kos, Media Matters, and their ilk are.   I’m not being unfair to the left, the extremists on the right should also not be able to decide who does and doesn’t get airtime.   Viewership and the management of the network should decide.  To be taken seriously by the general public, MSNBC should attempt to have talent that speaks to them, and not just talent that speaks to the extreme left.

  • Anonymous

    Fine. Remove Sharpton. Get rid of Schultz. I’ll shed no tears for these blowhards. But then let Fox follow suit and remove all their lightweight hacks like Hannity, Bolling, O’Reilly and the entire dimwitted crew on “Fox & Friends.” These people are all a scourge on society. They make up their own facts, they play to the weak and the easily scared and they’ve turned the national dialog into a pathetic and embarrassing screaming match.

    A pox on both their houses.

  • Anonymous

    There’s too few MSNBC viewers in the world and much too painful to watch for an assignment.  It’d be like a extreme left liberal having to go through Glenn Beck tapes.  Why ruin someone’s weekend?

  • Gregg Sanchez

    You come right and say Rev. Al history of comments but fail to mention that unlike Bucky he hasn’t made those type of comments in ahwile. Pat has not stopped making his racist comments nor will he because that’s just the racist way he is. I am not saying what Al said was a-ok,but you can not compare the two when one stops making such comments and the other continues to feed the fires.

  • david r

     Stuck.

    This is why I was delighted when they hired him.  Funny times ahead for sure.

  • Pablo
  • Pablo

    “Let’s be clear: white feathers.”

    Let’s be even more clear: Jewish feathers.

  • South Park Conservatives

    People have died because of Al’s hate speech. Al is a black lib so MSDNC won’t have to answer. Double standards, indeed.

  • http://twitter.com/DolefulLions Doleful Lions

    Al Sharpton isn’t going anywhere, I mean he could call someone a “punk F word” on tv and he would still have a job on MSNBC. This is why

    “I have decided not to criticize the president about anything”- Al Sharpton on 60 Minutes

  • Anonymous

    Hannity yes but O’Reilly?  Have you watched his show? He is nothing like you describe. Maybe you should do your research before believing everything Media Matters tells you. You are shown to be ignorant.

  • Moderate

    “MSNBC should attempt to have talent that speaks to them, and not just talent that speaks to the extreme left.”

    Years ago, MSNBC decided survival depended on going after the audience that would never watch Fox News. Out of pure ideological reasons, Current TV has gone after the same group. When you start splitting up one small piece of the pie, everyone involved starves.

  • Anonymous

    Will MSNBC have to answer for Al?…..Of course not!   We all know race baiting is not a two way street…

  • Holistic

    MSNBC providing a convenient soapbox for Shartons’ racism.

  • Anonymous

    I give you Al Sharpton of just a few years ago…  This is a cut and paste of a comment I made on a slightly different topic, but Sharpton was at the center of the topic.  I am not defending Buchanan but he could not be any more biased and racially motivated than Sharpton.  In fact if you look into Dunbar as well as other incidents you can see how shallow and racially motivated that Sharpton has been over the years while amassing his millions..

    A letter about the Dunbar village incident written by a black minister trying to call attention to the event,Rev. Dr. Renita J. Weems writes“On June 18, 2007, a black woman was gang raped by 10 youths and forced at gunpoint to have sex with her own 12 year old son in a housing complex called Dunbar Village in West Palm Beach, Florida. The young men not only viciously punched, kicked and sliced this sister and her son with glass objects, but they also blinded her boy by pouring nail polish remover into his eyes.The young men forced this sister and son to lay naked in a bathtub together, and attempted to set them on fire (they could not find matches). The youths boldly took cell phone pictures so that they could enjoy their violent, immoral and sadistic acts at a later time. The violence continued for more than three hours, and although this sister’s neighbors heard her screams, no one called the police or came to her aid.This sister and her son had to walk a mile to the hospital, because the assailants stole her car, and threatened to kill her and her family if she told the authorities. Only four of the young men have been apprehended, while the remaining six are on the loose, doing Lord knows what in our communities. There is no manhunt for the remaining suspects.”“As devastating as this story is, what the NAACP and Al Sharpton have done about it will simply take your breath away: not only did the NAACP ignore hundreds of requests to assist this woman because it was ‘outside the scope of their mission’, but they joined forces with Al Sharpton, and sent their lawyers to speak out IN SUPPORT OF THE RAPISTS. You heard me right.Even though there is conclusive DNA evidence and signed confessions, the NAACP and Al Sharpton are saying that it is ‘unfair’ to not offer bail to these four alleged rapists. They even had a press release about it”.Al Sharpton came to Palm beach county, not to help the community heal after this horrific event, but to protest bail for the suspects who upon their apprehension confessed to the crimes. This man is nothing more than a race trader as in he makes a living at it as his outstanding tax bills of almost 2 million dollars attests to. This was one of his prouder moments I am sure…  This man should never be allowed to deny the truth about who he really is.. 

  • CarmanK

    Pat Buchanan is a selfish, blatantly racist, arrogant man, who did nothing for anyone. He was an opinion celebrity whose message got old and ugly. On the other hand, Rev AL is what he said he is from day 1. He is an activist and fighter for human rights and has nothing to apologize for. He wants equal and economic justice for all people. Above all, Rev AL is a truth teller, and that is above all else the most important thing MEDIA needs today. FOX IS A MONSTROUS EMPIRE OF LIARS and only now, are people beginning to catch on.

  • Anonymous

    Resist We Much! Al’s not a minister but a hairdresser.

  • Duke Chesnut

    Dang Pablo, 2 quick links in 2 days, I am impresed, How many monitors do you have going whilst commenting?

  • Duke Chesnut

    See Pablo’s link for Al’s Baggage.

  • Anonymous

    you forgot race pimp.

  • Anonymous

    holder lied, people died.

  • Anonymous

    i wish fox would remove colmes, williams, rivera and beckel too.

  • Duke Chesnut

    Examples, Links, or Quotes? MMfa trolls always toss around statements, cannot back up when called to do so. xgopman will next return to name calling.

  • Anonymous

    O’Reilly is slightly less thuggish than Hannity, but if you don’t think he plays fast and loose with the truth, you’ve got your head in the sand.

    Jon Stewart called O’Reilly the sanest of Fox’s primetime hosts, but added that that was like being called the skinniest kid at fat camp.

  • Anonymous

    Good lord, open your eyes, dufus. Every single day on the pages of this and countless other websites, posters recount the falsehoods, propaganda and outright lies pushed on Fox viewers.

    And politifact and other independent monitoring sites have cited Fox hosts for their spin countless times.

    If you’re too lazy to do your own research, just go here and they’ll do it for you:

    http://www.newshounds.us/

  • Anonymous

    Care to address the [points made in the above article. They seem pretty reasonable.

  • Anonymous

    Looks good on you. Now you need to back that up by demanding they have the same standards for Al as Pat. Seems simple enough…. right? :)

  • Anonymous

    You are the biggest moron to ever post here.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton#Controversy

  • Anonymous

    I like you.

  • Anonymous

    Does InsideCableNews even watch cable news?

    “I don’t think you’d see either Chris Hayes or Melissa Harris-Perry with weekend shows if MSNBC wasn’t worried about the potential of Current poaching. The fact that they’d be poached down what would amount to a Nielsen black hole is beside the point. They’d be poached.”

    I haven’t read the Nation since college, but I’d hazard a guess that almost half of their writers are on the MSNBC payroll.

    Really dumb article.

  • http://twitter.com/jtLOL ‘Jim’ ‘Treacher’

    No, because Pat Buchanan isn’t going to lead a march on them.

  • Anonymous

    Jon also stated that he “liked” Bill on a personal level.

  • Duke Chesnut

    If you combine all the viewership of CNN, MSNBC, and Current TV, the numbers don’t come close to Bill O’Reillys reruns. If Al wanted equal justice for all, how did he defend gang rapists in Palm Beach Florida. Keep drinking the DNC koolaide, and don’t forget to #occupy Chicago this spring during the G8 /NATO summit there. I can’t wait for the leftys to re-create the ’68 convention riots.

  • zrodfx

    Buchanan is as good as they come….truth is what offends the left the most. It’s like sunshine to a vampire. Being a democrat is  a mental disorder,,,,overly emotional, childish behavior, childish solutions to adult problems. Margaret Thatcher described democrats to a ‘T’…….they don’t think, they ‘feel’. Democrat men are just women with a penis. i.e. Chris ‘tingles’ Matthews.

  • Michael T.

    What has Al Sharpton said or done in recent memory to stir up controversy to the extent there are huge efforts to oust him from MSNBC? Sure he has baggage, but so do Beck, Dobbs and Imus.

    Unlike Pat Buchanan most people learn from their mistakes. But not the stubborn Mr. Buchanan who has a long history of incendiary remarks about blacks, Hispanics and Jews.

  • Pablo

    Just the one. And it’s well more than two links.

  • Anonymous

    True. That’s because O’Reilly is less toxic than Hannity.

  • Pablo

    Yes, and everyone knows that comedian Jon Stewart is the arbiter of TRVTH.

  • Pablo

    Media Mutters is going to be disappointed that you didn’t link them. Mr. Soros will not be pleased with you.

  • zrodfx

    Sharpton is a race pimp. To keep someone in the gutter, you have to get in the gutter to do it. Whitey is not keepin’ the black man down, Rev Al and Rev. Jesse are…..they make millions doing it. Republicans NEVER had a KKK member in the Senate  (Byrd)…..nor anyone that killed  a woman (Kennedy). Sharpton is actually responsible for human deaths due to his rhetoric, and incitement. Twanna Brawley, and on and on and on…..yet you defend the indefensible. FOX IS AN HEROIC CHAMPION OF TRUTH……………………………………………………………….FAIR AND BALANCED…

  • mac691

    Perhaps you missed the part where Al was a leading light in the “lynching” of the Duke lacrosse players.    And once again, just like Tawana Brawley, there is NO apology for it.   I take note that Al did not demand justice for the Tennessee couple who were tortured, burned, and placed into drums, by Black thugs.   So much for being for “human rights.”

  • mac691

    Perhaps you missed the part where Al was a leading light in the “lynching” of the Duke lacrosse players.    And once again, just like Tawana Brawley, there is NO apology for it.   I take note that Al did not demand justice for the Tennessee couple who were tortured, burned, and placed into drums, by Black thugs.   So much for being for “human rights.”

  • http://twitter.com/gme11 Gail Evans

    MSNBC doesn’t have the greatest decision makers.  Cenk’s new show on Current is 100% better than it was on MSNBC.  Its got a totally different look and is edgy, where all the others follow the same old concept.  I also like Olbermann’s minimalist set.  You don’t need flash to talk to viewers.

  • Anonymous

    Psssst….Al Gets a pass; have you not noticed that Shaprton is a blac….ah…he’s…ah…he’s not an angry white man…!

  • Anonymous

    Ah, so your the person who watches Current.  I knew there was at least one!

  • G Tegs

    Talk about montrous liars you take the cake . Sharpton is  a race baiting anti-semetic rabble rouser that has been proven to put forth lies that caused peoples’ deaths.  How can you sleep at night?

  • G Tegs

    Defending Al Sharpton as not a racist is futile.

  • Duke Chesnut

    MSNBC has weekend shows? Locked up, on the inside, and prison Tats are not shows, they are catering to their loyal listeners who are  Locked Up.

  • Anonymous

    Compared to Fox, absolutely. His audience is better informed about world and national events than the Fox audience, which was next to last in a Pew study of viewer awareness.

  • Duke Chesnut

    Like I said: Name calling.

  • Anonymous

    Soros and Media Matters in one post? Wow. You really need to take a break. Your talking points are beyond clichéd now.

  • Anonymous

    So are you claiming that what “Gloves” said is not accurate?

  • Anonymous

    They are talent-LESS.  Not that he would ever admit it but I’m willing to bet that Kieth “Tokyo Rose” Olbermann hopes that a republican wins the election.  He had good ratings when Bush was in because all of the vile liberals would tune into him for their talking points.

  • Michael T.

    Those are all valid points mac691.

    But I do think most people would consider that old news and there doesn’t appear to be any uprising to oust him for things he did some time ago.

  • Anonymous

    Sharpton offends any self respecting black person (democrat or otherwise) he purports to speak for.

    Race baiting hustler.

  • Anonymous

    I’d like anyone one of you weenies to live the life that Sharpton has lead and not have uttered some inappropriate statements in the process. He may be a bit of a douchebag but to compare him to Buchanan is to understand absolutely nothing of American history. More partisan party games from Mediaite and the resident numbskulls take the bait. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Hemmer/1061080208 Adam Hemmer

    No. Al isn’t a racist. He fights against racism…..which to real racists(conservatives) is ‘racist’. Wacky world we live in.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Hemmer/1061080208 Adam Hemmer

    I think Mediaite is Dan Abram’s shot back at the perceived “librurl media!” for canning his ass.

  • Anonymous

    Nuts.  Get rid of Buchanan forever – w no regrets.  He’s always been nothing more than a low-life
    goon.  A  hate “writer” for Nixon in the late 1960s.   Nixon was my precise next-door neighbor from
    67-74.  He could not personally stand Buchanan – but enjoyed the results of Buchanan’s “dirty work” (sic).  He is a sick, deeply disturbed little man.  Anyone who meets him & spends a few moments w him should assuredly recognize that.   Yet look how long he’s been around & how far he has risen.  And what it says about the Republicult party.  Mention my name – the guy will freak.  Why all this fuss among the nobodies???  Amazing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Hemmer/1061080208 Adam Hemmer

    What!? If it’s not sensationalist rightwing media with pretty faces I get bored….because I’m not too bright.

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    I’m curious as to why Mediaite is discussing stories from Inside Cable News??

    Also, if you going to point out that Sharpton is as inflammatory as Buchanan, some examples would have been nice!!

  • Anonymous

    Actually the same poll showing Fox News viewers to be less informed showed the Daily Show viewers to be even less informed of facts and worlds events. Jon even did a segment on his show about this.

  • Anonymous

    Fox News and Koch brothers. I see it all the time.

  • Anonymous

    Pat has been having some health issues and I understand that is why he has not been on recently.

  • Anonymous

    So tell us how long the statue of limitations should be on a dirtbag like Sharpton.
    Let’s see, 15 years on Romney, 20+ on Perry and Paul, and 30+ on Gingrich, never mind infinity on Limbaugh. Old news never seems to die for them and they never caused the deaths of anybody. 

  • Anonymous

    It’s about a pattern of behavior.  Sharpton has undoubtedly made some ignorant, showboating choices in his past.  The question is – Does he continue to do so?  Is he likely to? 

    Buchanan has been a recidivist, xenophobic, sexist bigot for ages, and has never shown any sign of being willing to either dial it back, or retract his worse statements.

  • Anonymous

    Right.  Then it could really be the ignorant, one-sided echo chamber its viewers  crave.

  • Anonymous

    “Reverend” Sharpton detests white people, just like Jessie Jackson and “Minister” Farrakhan.  By the way, where did this clown get his theology degree?  When was he ordained?  Was it while he was booking gigs for James Brown?  I’m as much a minister as he is.  If all you have to do is declare yourself a minister, then I’m declaring right now.  I’m going to start a church based on White Liberation theology.  We need to get free of the political correctness and freeloaders dragging us down.

  • Anonymous

    If you have to ask…it won’t do any good to point them out !

  • Anonymous

    And Buchanan doesn’t constantly appeal to fear and emotion?  Have you read anything the man’s written?

  • http://mediamatters.org/ Leedog

    Sure it would, because I would like to see what they think he said that could cause him to be fired from MSNBC!!

  • Pablo
  • Anonymous

    OK, we have a conundrum here?  I agree with LEEDOG, but question his motives.

    In fact, my first response was the same as COURT JESTER.

    So, with all due respect and deference to LEEDOG…could you clarify your comment?

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    I heard that too, but, I really think he’s at Area 51, being tortured by the “Grand Lefty!”

  • Anonymous

    Just scroll the thread, there are plenty of examples…I don’t want to be repetetive repetetive repetetive

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    Who died because of Al Sharpton? What hate speech are you referring to?

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    As a self respecting black person, how does Al Sharpton offend me?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Politics-culture-Reasoned-America/100001284363960 Politics-culture Reasoned Amer

    How much BLOOD is on Sharpton/NBC’s Hands?

    Crown Heights

    Freddie’s

    TAWANA

    Remember this NBC HOST the next time the Obama Media screams “RACIST!”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3VMJEBU2NEBP2V2FC7PXGLOYFQ Wilbur M

    I am black and fought in Vietnam, I am a proud American and what I have read here on this comment page are a bunch of lost people with no pride and full of hate. Why, i can’t tell you but i read it and it makes me sick. Buchanan is a racist  Al Sharpton is a democrat that white Americans and some blacks hate. Why I can’t answer that cause i don’t carry hate. Even though white shot at me in combat 41 years ago i have never understood why people hate so much and carry it for on generation to the next.

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    So mistakenly accusing white men of raping black women and not bringing attention to one white on black crime is ironclad proof of racism? How? Please explain that in greater detail.

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    What proof do you have that Al Sharpton hates white people. How do you know he is not qualified to be a minister? What exactly is white liberation theology?

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    When did Al Sharpton say anything anti-Semitic? Examples of this race baiting, please?

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    Examples please?

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    Sorry but you are wrong. Please cite your sources.

  • Anonymous

    Here you go…  this is a link to Dr. Weems’ website..  you will see updates on the Dunbar situation and if you root around enough may find the letter itself.  I know that the letter can be found on the internet, it was at one time posted on her church website, but if you are interested in the veracity of my post it would only take you a few moments to see that everything that I posted here is true…

    http://www.somethingwithin.com/blog/?cat=35

  • Anonymous

    I completely agree with you.  Buchanan is a racists and this question has absolutely nothing to do with Sharpton.  The first time I heard Buchanan, I believe during the Republicans 1984 convention I couldn’t believe anyone would allow him to get on national stage and speak the words he spoke.  He sounded like a racist then and still does, except to his credit he’s learned over the years not to make so obvious.  Buchanan is no longer relevant and his views only appeal to some far right southern conservatives.  He’s been over due in leaving the air waves and I doubt many will even miss him.

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    Sharpton may not have the intellectual heft of Dr. King, but if the civil rights leader was alive today conservatives would calling him a race pimp much like they do Sharpton. I have read all these comments and there is not one single cited factual instance of racism attributed to Al Sharpton. Mistakenly accusing white men of raping black women is a mistake, not iron clad prove of racism. Reverend Sharpton has doggedly protested the racial, social & economic inequities of American society and that enrages racial conservatives who would rather maintain the current system of privilege.

  • Holistic

    Just watch and listen to his program. It is almost nightly.

  • Anonymous

    None.  The only media you obviously agree with is FOX. Spend some time and research the news from several different sources and you might find that FOX is always out on their own providing misinformation to their viewers. After all, there is a reason FOX News was not allowed to build a broadcast station in Canada and that is because Canada has laws that say you can’t call yourself a news station unless your accurate and are not bias in the way you broadcast the news.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    Give me ONE inflammatory comment Al has made in the last FIVE YEARS!

  • http://newsbusters.org/ AliveStiIIKickin

    It would be my suggestion that MSNBC just go off the air.
    Nobody there is worth a shit anyway.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    Please don’t hold your breath waiting for an answer.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    What is a race trader?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KSH52GTU7ATNOTCD52RAL3P6XA Jon

    Wikipedia link to Freddy’s Fashion Mart and Sharpton’s “White Interloper” quote. You can Google the store’s name and get a bunch of other links, from liberal and conservative leaning websites.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    To Pablo: So?

    You guys are so pathetic.

    Are we suppose to be afraid of one billionaire taking over the entire world when he isn’t even the richest billionaire?

    He isn’t even top 10.

    Do know what that means? Your fear of a George Soros world is purely based on what Glenn Beck tells you.

    There are LITERALLY 30 other Billionaires not including world governments who could buy and sell George Soros.

    Please, please, please, please grow up. It is really silly for adults to have such boogeymen.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    Weak.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    Yes, Al hates white people because he sticks up for black people.

    There are no white people who should ever been admonished for their behavior and if ANYONE does it is because they are whitey hating bigots.

    White people are a pure and innocent people and should never be bothered by men of other races.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    You’re a pathetic liar.

    I bet in your mind Rush Limbaugh doesn’t say anything racist while calling the President a man-child.

    And this coming from a guy who has no kids no long term relationships and who makes his living as a political shock jock.

    Hmm, political shock jock vs President of the United States.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    You are obviously high on drugs.

  • Anonymous

    Pat Buchanan is listed as being 6’1, (six-one) ergo, your comment referring to Mr Buchanan as a “deeply disturbed little man,” makes your entire post, and you suspect?

    Anyway, as I am  someone who is schooled and practiced in argumentation and debate, I conclude your post is a quintessential example of ad hominem, completely lacking in substance.  Meaning, such is typical for you and your like minded “friends.”  Ouch!

    Honestly, your comment is so obvious it could be a ruse or feeble attempt at humor?  (I see through your clever ploy!)

    LOL, Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    There’s a statute of limitations on his hate?

  • Anonymous

    I watch MSNBC and enjoy their programming, incluiding Al.  You cannot compare Sharpton to that racist, Buchanan.  Have you read his book….I rest my case.  Were you around when Buchanan ran for POTUS?  If so, I rest my case.  I love how right wing tea baggers always want to denigrade people of color and bring them down…….like our African American “Food Stamp” President of the United States.  Get a life!

  • Dirk

    Ahem, Ron Paul?

  • Anonymous

    Oh..  I don’t know, why don’t you tell me how it is that Al long before his gig at MSNBC became a multimillionaire when his only real job seems to have been interjecting his overbearing presence into any situation in which he could exploit and create racial overtones for his own profit…  You answer that question and I will then tell you what a race trader is.

  • Anonymous

    That is CaCa…  I am surprised that you would even an attempt at lifting Sharpton’s credibility to anywhere near the status of Dr. King, one of our country’s true treasures.  Sharpton has been nothing but a charlatan who has made millions by promoting racial strife..  Hardly can a favorable comparison be made between the two men.  You have been offered links to substantiating evidence to Sharpton’s past up and down this thread and you choose to willfully ignore them…  re-read Dr. Weems letter but do it using the link I provided so that you can read it as posted on her own website.  Sharpton is well know to the communities that he has exploited, like Dunbar down here in Florida, and many other’s around the country…  Far different than the sincerity, truth and sacrifice of MLK.  

  • Anonymous

    That is CaCa…  I am surprised that you would even an attempt at lifting Sharpton’s credibility to anywhere near the status of Dr. King, one of our country’s true treasures.  Sharpton has been nothing but a charlatan who has made millions by promoting racial strife..  Hardly can a favorable comparison be made between the two men.  You have been offered links to substantiating evidence to Sharpton’s past up and down this thread and you choose to willfully ignore them…  re-read Dr. Weems letter but do it using the link I provided so that you can read it as posted on her own website.  Sharpton is well know to the communities that he has exploited, like Dunbar down here in Florida, and many other’s around the country…  Far different than the sincerity, truth and sacrifice of MLK.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    You’re silly.

    So you think Al and Pat are the same but you don’t think Pat should be fired even though by your standards he is filled with “hate.”

    You don’t have ANYTHING negative from the man in the last five years and yet he and Pat are the same when Pat says stupid racist stuff almost every chance he gets. And lets not forget the book he just wrote: Suicide of a Superpower.

    No matter how hard you try to be reasonable of fair in your BIAS you still look very silly.

  • Bobby Brady

    What we do know is that if Buchanan is taken out permanently, there will be blow-back.

    Are you serious?
    M-BS-NBC’s target audience hates Buchanan’s guts, as does MediaMatters and the anti-Semites who blog at ThinkProgress.
    Other than that, no one else gives a crap about M-BS-NBC, as evidenced by their horrendous ratings.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    You’re a very silly person.

    Yes, Al has interjected himself in many situations. So?

    Does he have the right as a US Citizen to do whatever it is he wants to do as long as it doesn’t violate the law?

    Why do you hate his interjections so much? Have they affected you in any way?

    And how did he make his money? Like anyone else – he worked. He has a radio show, he is a minister, he is a speaker, he is a politician etc., etc.

    You basically hate Al because he is someone who tries to stand up for other people.

    Too bad for you.

  • Bobby Brady

    Just this incident alone would be enough to cause a White Conservative to lose their job:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9IdddtgP2o

  • South Park Conservatives

    MASSACRE AT FREDDY’S IN HARLEM: FIRE FUELED BY ANTI-SEMITISM KILLS 8″Burn the Jew Store Down”

    On Friday, December 8, at 10:12 a.m., Roland James Smith, Jr., 51, a Harlem resident with a criminal record going back 30 years, walked into Freddy’s Fashion Mart, a Jewish-owned clothing store at 272 West 125th Street, pulled out a gun, ordered all the black customers to leave, spilled paint thinner on several bins of clothing and set them on fire — a fire that resulted in killing 8 people including Smith.
    Smith had been part of a group of picketers, led by Al Sharpton , head of the National Action Network and Morris Powell , leader of the 125th Street Vendor’s Association, who had been protesting the eviction of Sikhulu Shange, owner of the Record Shack who was subletting from Fred Harari, the Jewish owner of Freddy’s.

    http://www.jewishpost.com/archives/news/massacre-at-freddys-in-harlem-fire-fueled-by-anti-semitism-kills-8.html

    Lets don’t forget the part Rev. Al played in the Crown Riots

  • South Park Conservatives

    Yes you are. But keep trying.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe you should go back to school.  Great 1 was speaking from experience and not as if he’s in a debate.  I have no idea if his statements are true or not, but neither do you.  In addition, the statement ” deeply disturbed little man” is not necessarily stated as a fact, but is often used as a derogative statement about someone.

    Before you accuse someone of making a questionable statement such as, “makes your entire post and you suspect”, you should provide some evidence for it, which you did not.  Honestly, from your comment I suspect an inability on your part in logical thinking skills which is vital in developing debate skills.  So, in conclusion I am suspect of your claims of being a trained debater. OUCH!

  • South Park Conservatives

    Rev. Al -“I f the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house.”

  • South Park Conservatives

    And the “political shock jock ” wins each and everytime.

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    Smith killed people not Sharpton. How does leading a campaign to encouraging black business in a black community equal murder?  Al Sharpton was nowhere near when this tragedy occurred. If that is the type of illogical reasoning that you want to use the every white who participated against desegregation is guilty of the murders that happened during that time period.
    I don’t have to forget Crown Heights. I am a Caribbean American  from New York and I a perfectly aware of what happened. An innocent child was allowed die because he was not Jewish. The city should have charged the ambulance driver and the operator of car who struck the child. If that had happened the clash between the community members and the Hassidim would have never happened. Two people died because of that callous act and Al Sharpton did not kill either of them, so try again.

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    Do you know the history of what was going on and still going on in Harlem? White gentrification has forced blacks out of business and homes that they had for decades. It is still going on. What Sharpton said was a factual description of what was going on. How is that racist?  And how does that make Sharpton a murder?

  • http://twitter.com/mlake9 Mitch Lake

    Perhaps the author shouldn’t criticize Current TV for not being able to do the most rudimentary things correctly if he/she (or his/her site) isn’t capable of adding hyperlinks to this story correctly. 

  • Anonymous

    Quote:  ”GREAT1 was speaking from experience and not as if he’s in a debate”  

    OK, I’ll concede the point, however, as I responded to GREAT1′s “experience,” thus, we now have a debate, based on differing opinions.  Comprehende?Every, post, comment or opinion proffered within mediate is part of an open debate.  (Reminds me calling war, a “police action” Ouch!)
    Furthermore, I did “provide some evidence”… I looked up Mr Buchanan’s height and by average standards, he is considered somewhat tall, certainly NOT short.  GREAT1 exaggerated and conspicuously used ad hominem, (you do know what “ad hominem is?”) hence, leaves his credibility questionable.

    In fact, your second paragraph is a mirror image of GREAT 1′s thinking process, which is truly devoid of reason and acceptable evidence.Typical Liberal, just because someone they admire says it, it must be true?Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • Anonymous

    Be smart, and leave it alone, you will only make your humiliation worse…

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    Sharoton did not kill anyone. If you are going to use that logic Pat Buchanan is responsible for every anti-black crime that has been committed since he began his hateful crusade. It was a mistake.Tawana Brawley was a frightened teenager and only 10 year prior to this case the rape of black women by white men especially cops was permissible in this country. Google the Joan Little case & the book At the Dark End of the Street. 

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    Cite this please. I like facts.

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    What exactly is a race pimp?

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    That is not answer. Facts with citations, please.

  • Anonymous

    Can a Liberal, by definition, be racist?  Or, can only Conservatives be racist?

    Are all Liberal’s devoid of bias?  Is there something special about Liberals that make them immune to pitfalls of prejudicial thinking?  If so, what?

    Does being unbiased, make Liberal’s biased against those not so enlightened?

    Is Self Righteousness a form of prejudice?  Can one be self righteous and unbiased?

    I am a big fan of Plato and dialectic philosophy, can you tell?  Ouch!

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    I never said anything about Pat not being fired. I think MSNBC will have a hard time defending one while letting the other go. And your lack of outrage at Al’s history is very telling.

  • Anonymous
  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    You just copied what was on this blog post.  There are no citations in the blog post & it is outdated. Al Sharpton did go to Dunbar Village to protest and he did condemn this heinous crime. He did point out that a similar rape had been perpetrated with a white suspect and he did get bail. I disagree with him on that aspect. I think all perpetrators should have been treated equally & kept in jail.

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    I read your link and responded above. Sharpton has not made millions, that is preposterous. Buchanan has made a fortune stirring up white anxieties and fears about anyone who is not exactly like him for decades. He continues to do it and is unabashedly proud of his rhetoric.

    King was vilified for discussing the same inequality that Sharpton has. King was blamed for the riots in the 1960′s but I doubt you know anything about him other that he made a speech with the “phrase content of our character” in it.  I want documentation – speeches, essays, book passages in which his ideas differ from Sharpton’s in a demonstrable way. 

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    He just wants a return to segregation and massive deportation of naturalized citizens of color. That may not be important to you but I find that prospect quite distasteful. 

  • http://twitter.com/tavernwench TavernWench

    So “InsideCableNews” is now a front-pager at Mediaite?  

  • http://twitter.com/eshowman Friday Foster

    Your dragging up Morton Downey Jr. the former king of raunch from the 1980′s? What he said then was inexcusable, but could we stay in this century? Buchanan has been spouting his anti-black, homophobic trash for 40 years and continues to this day. Downey was the original angry, conservative white not loose his job for saying the same thing and worse. His ratings only got higher.

  • South Park Conservatives

    Al Sharptons’s words provoked Roland Smith to murder.

    Al Sharpton’s words provoked several attacks on Jews during the riots.

  • Anonymous

    I know plenty about Dr. King, as a child I remember watching him on TV…  I also remember how poorly he was received by the majority of the white community, at least in the south, for many years after his death…  But it is hard to study his words and his life and not realize that King’s life was something along the magnitude of Gandi or Mandela.  Having said that comparing Sharpton to King IMO detracts from the memory of MLK.  

    As far as Sharpton not being a Multimillionaire….  I give you this from Wikipedia..

    “On September 29, 2010, Robert Snell of the Detroit News reported that the Internal Revenue Service had filed a notice of federal tax lien against Sharpton in New York City in the amount of over $538,000.[86] Sharpton’s lawyer asserts that the notice of federal tax lien relates to Sharpton’s year 2009 federal income tax return, the due date of which has been extended to October 15, 2010, according to the lawyer”

    Now if the good Reverend Al can rack up over a half million dollar tax bill in just one year, that would suggest to me that he is living very well.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003105863276 Political Dookie

    Were you in the riots caused by Sharpton? I rest my case.

  • Anonymous

    The blog post that I linked you to belongs to the author of the letter she should hardly have to cite her own work.  As far as Sharpton’s appearance in South Florida he did so after much resistance and flaccid attempt to defend his motivations, the two crimes were not comparable in the violence perpetrated nor was the evidence of guilt nearly as compelling.  With such overwhelming evidence and given the confessions of the perpetrators there is no reason that the judge should be expected to grant bail. The whole theory behind bail is not to give the guilty liberated status prior to a trial, it is granted in effort to not incarcerate and disrupt lives before their guilt has been proven.  Why should these animals spend another day free when they had admitted to the most heinous of crimes?

    Al Sharpton ran down there and jumped into a situation that he did not understand, his efforts were a source of further distress to the black community that he professes to serve, and he did so because his first inclination was that he could use race to slander a District Attorney and impune South Florida’s legal system as being racist in nature.  It turned into a complete disaster for not only himself but the NAACP as well..  If you look deeply enough on Dr. Weems website you may find a chronological history of her fight trying to gain piece and support for the community at Dunbar.  I know that it was once there as I have read it. 

    I have not said anything here about Al Sharpton that is not true, many others too have linked to instances in his history that should give you pause to think and then do some research for yourself and ask, were his actions for the greater good or were they self serving?  I think that the more you learn about Reverend Al, his actions, and his finances you will begin to ask these questions yourself.

    Take care. 

  • Bobby Brady

    Actually I thought I was dragging up Al Sharpton calling someone a f*ggot.
    And as for “staying in this century”, I sure wish we could, if you catch my drift.

  • Holistic

    This guy makes his living off of other peoples misery. Just like Jesse has for all his life. Keep them down on the plantation while they make all the money. Pathetic!

  • Bobby Brady

    “If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house”.

    Let’s see if that does the trick.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KSH52GTU7ATNOTCD52RAL3P6XA Jon

    Doesn’t make him a murderer. It makes him an agitator. Most people would have a certain sense of remorse if they spouted inflammatory rhetoric and then some nut job takes it to another level and kills himself and eight people, and to be fair, Shapton did apologize to Harari for the “white interloper” line, and he has toned down his public utterances since he began running for political office a decade ago. But that was more a calculated move of self-interest in the last decade, not something that he should have searched his soul about 17 years ago.

    Most people caught up in a kerffufle like Freddy’s would have a hard time making their way back into the spotlight as an “official” spokesperson, and certainly, what happened in 1995 was a little further beyond the pale than what Shapton was involved with in 1995 (and honestly, as paleocon as Buchanan is and as much as MSNBC panders to the left, I’m surprised the are suspending him, since he’s almost a parody of what your average MSNBC host and view thinks every Republican believes. They’re not going to get a more didactic house conservative to spout over-the-top rhetoric between now and Election Day).

  • Love of Country

    Answer for Al Sharpton?  Convict him of hate crimes and MSDNC as accessory.  That would be social justice.

  • Anonymous

    You call me silly and then go on to say that reverend Al has the right to do any thing he wants as long as it doesn’t violate the law… 

    I would ask where did I ever state that Sharpton does not have the right to do the things that he does?  I too have the right to condemn his behavior as that is not against the law either, at least not yet.  Hell according to your logic racists have every right to be racists, and that is probably fitting as you are making an attempt to defend a race baiter (trader) like Al Sharpton. 

    You list the various ways that Sharpton made his money but as you have seen by many of the links on this page that Sharpton often involved himself where he did not belong for all the wrong reasons and people’s lives were sometimes destroyed, in at least one case people died.. and in most of these cases it can not be said that he was fighting for justice…  He was however fighting to either make his name or keep it relevant so that he could at first collect those local donations, then later as he became more famous make his money doing his speaking engagements, or his radio show or whatever else he did.  

    You tell me that I hate Sharpton, that is kinda a strong word, there are few people that I could really hate, but you would be closer to the mark if you were to say that I have no respect whatsoever for the man.  I don’t think that I would take exception to your saying that. 

  • http://twitter.com/fedora76 Jason Carson Wilson

    Chuck, that poor MSNBC ratings schtick is getting as old as the average age of a Fox News viewer. Of course FNC has “great” ratings, when it’s mandatory viewing in doctor’s offices, nursing homes, hospitals in podunk towns and Buick dealerships

  • http://twitter.com/fedora76 Jason Carson Wilson

    I respect Al Sharpton and his views. However, he doesn’t necessarily speak FOR me. I don’t need him or YOU to speak for me, thank you.

  • http://twitter.com/fedora76 Jason Carson Wilson

    Yes, then you could call the White News Network. Two of the four you want to get rid of are people of color. surprise, surprise…

  • http://twitter.com/fedora76 Jason Carson Wilson

    You disagree with Sharton’s approach on the Duke situation. Fine. Lynching wasn’t the best word choice. Spoiled, rich white kids, who, at the very least, made bad choices, are nothing like innocent Black people hanging from tress…Lynching my a@@!

  • Anonymous

    Sharpton should be fired for one overriding reason – he sucks as a TV host! I tried to watch him today but he was simply unwatchable. Couldn’t speak a coherent sentence to save his (media) life. He’s just awful.  

  • http://twitter.com/fedora76 Jason Carson Wilson

    Here are some new definitions I found in the dictionary. RACISM: n. Concept certain White people decided ceased to exist upon the inauguration of President Barack Obama. REVERSE RACISM: n. Calling certain White people on their shit. ‘PLAYING THE RACE CARD’: adj. Automatic response of some people to people of color’s criticism of racist statements.

  • Pablo

    Slow down and read, Antonio. Maybe breathe into a paper bag for a minute or two.

  • Pablo

    One who promotes, exploits and profits from racial animus and division.

  • Pablo

    Google is your friend.

  • Pablo

    Cite, please.

  • Pablo

    And as for “staying in this century”, I sure wish we could, if you catch my drift.

    Ain’t that the truth.

  • Pablo

    You forgot one. RACIST: n. Person who wins an argument with a progressive.

  • Anonymous
  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CQWUTBF2KSSVOXCR4PSN66L2PM James

    AL sharpton was olny giving his show due to his support of the merger with NBC and Comcast. And called out MSNBC for not having Black peolpe on primetime ?  Or atleast it’s how it look’s.

    As far as MSNBC go’s it’s on Phil Grifen these were all his call’s that he made. For not taking in acount for how it would look by bringing in Sharpton.  The way he took Keith off tv and out right try to frie him that lead up to Keith walking out.  Over a out of date rule. When it’s not phil’s or NBC news bussines who he gives money to.  The biggest iussie really was when Joe Scarbough gave money he dot a slap on the wrist and took him off TV for 2 day on the week of thanksgiving.

    And then how he canned David Shuster over a internet rumor that was proven false by that website. Or how he handled Cenk leaving Cenk said that Phil came to him told him a frend from DC didn’t like his tone. And he came out and said it was someone who did booking for MSNBC. Cenk said that Phil didn’t say that it was booking that it was a friend.  The way Phil said that it sounded like a man in black type didn’t like him. That alone I think made more of a iusse then anything else.

    Then after that he gave Sharpton a show.  I do think there will be a backlash with him.  Al will get himself in hot water and if they try to fire him. He come out and try to it look like he being pushed out becuase he’s black.

      And how he took Pat off TV.  Pat thought he was on medical leave. Witch does not go with what Phil said in a interview where Phil said he told Pat he was out becuase of his book. And I have not as of this post heard Phil denouce any of what Pat said. It likes from this that Phil didn’t tell Pat he was supended. And he just ran his mouth and didn’t tell him like man. I’m glad he’s out I just think he should have been out a long time ago. And if he does come back after his book tour. And that does say alot about Phil Grifen

     And let’s not forget his haring of Martin Basher with his background and how he got known for editing a documentary on Micheal Jackson.  and made him look like he was a child molester. And it was broven false. And yet he was given a show by Phil. And on the other side Al Sharpton was backing Micheal when this happened. So you bring in 2 peolpe who have somewhat bad blood and put them on the same network.

  • zrodfx

    Those blacks that did that in Knoxville, are getting a new trial…due to the judge being on drugs during the trial……..Al and Jesse can still make it down there to help demand justice for the two white people ,tortured and burned and raped, by the black thugs……oh wait ….

  • Anonymous

    My proof of his racism- his own reflexive cries of racism anytime a black person is arrested, accused, slighted, etc.  His first assumption is that white people seek to mistreat blacks.  I realize that blacks and whites often see racial issues through different prisms, but people like Sharpton escalate racial tensions in order to build their power. 

    His ministerial credentials- can you identify the seminary or divinity school he attended?  Or did he just step into a pulpit and declare himself a preacher?  He spends 99% of his time discussing liberal politics on TV or stirring up trouble.  I don’t recognize those activities as consistent with saving souls.

    White Liberation Theology- that is known as sarcasm.  You need a sense of humor. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1372617127 Anthony C. Menefee

    The rev has said nothing racist on MSNBC, and the moment he does he should be frozen as well. I can forgive a reformed person, but Pat is still currently and has always been a bigot!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1372617127 Anthony C. Menefee

    Here’s a solution to help get you bigoted Teagger’s Racist grandpa back on the air: Get your kkk members together and speak up like we did when when got him frozen…Yes expose yourselves! Or try getting him on Faux where he belongs.

  • Anonymous

    John Stewart??? Are you kidding me??? What an evil joke he is!

  • Anonymous

    MSNBS is so full of Namecalling, Nastiness & Nonsense, no wonder no one watches it except the ones who do it! lol

  • Van Grungy

     The KKK is the terrorist arm of the Democrats..

    embrace your history…

  • Van Grungy

     How’s life on the Democrat Plantation?

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