stay away from the crack pipe jon, no more trips

I’ve read this site for quite some time and never commented. I’ve pushed a few “thumbs up” and “thumbs down”. :) This so-called article pushed me over the edge. This has to be the most immature, illogical thing I’ve ever read. As a long time English teacher, it reminds me of something a junior age child would write. From now on, I will not waste another second reading any more articles by Jon Bershad.

Well, aren’t you just the new MLK? Why don’t you cut to the chase, Jon, and say what you really think of those dirty thought criminals that dare to hold beliefs different than yours. Perhaps they should be scrubbed from the pages of history to avoid such awkward imagined future scenarios. Probably best to just round them up, dispose of them humanely, and then erase their public records. Since they make up approximately 50% of the population, that would open up a lot of real estate for truly enlightened liberals, too. Makes sense, no? It’s certainly better than having people 100 years from now having to confront the ugly truth that people once held different views than the 50% of people with whom Jon agrees.

proudpatriot said:
I’ve read this site for quite some time and never commented. I’ve pushed a few “thumbs up” and “thumbs down”. :) This so-called article pushed me over the edge. This has to be the most immature, illogical thing I’ve ever read. As a long time English teacher, it reminds me of something a junior age child would write. From now on, I will not waste another second reading any more articles by Jon Bershad.

I’m just glad he didn’t use puppets too.

I agree 100 percent. Many of the haters that oppose gay marriage will 10 years from now deny they were ever against same sex marriage or GLBT people in general. Same thing happened in the 1970s and 1980’s in regards to previous attidudes held by many regarding women, people of color, and the civil rights movement. The movement for equality is at a historical noteworthy point now. The momentum really is for tolerance.

I need to dress up like the dude on the right for Halloween.

You have to love how people in the 1950′s conceptualized garb of the future. Maybe I need to start a trend!

Nature Freak said:
The movement for equality is at a historical noteworthy point now. The momentum really is for tolerance.

Absolutely! We can expect gay marriage any day now in the 1.2 billion strong Muslim world.

proudpatriot said:
I’ve read this site for quite some time and never commented. I’ve pushed a few “thumbs up” and “thumbs down”. :) This so-called article pushed me over the edge. This has to be the most immature, illogical thing I’ve ever read. As a long time English teacher, it reminds me of something a junior age child would write. From now on, I will not waste another second reading any more articles by Jon Bershad.

Proudpatriot is a proud homophobic.

Azarkhan said:
Absolutely! We can expect gay marriage any day now in the 1.2 billion strong Muslim world.

The Muslim world is way more complex and changing than most of the haters give it credit for. There are gays throughout the Muslim world, and they are fighting for their freedom. I would not be surprised to see a country like Turkey or Lebanon legalize gay marriage by 2030.

Do you wish to emulate the Islamic world? I suspect some right wing Christians secretly admire Wahabism and some of the other forms of radical Islam.

Not all Muslims are intolerant, nor are all Christians. The ones that are give the rest a bad name.

Should Obam and Old Joe quit talking about it , or stop lying about it till after the election ?

Nature Freak said:
I would not be surprised to see a country like Turkey or Lebanon legalize gay marriage by 2030

I would not be surprised to see Turkey become an Islamic Republic by 2030. As for Lebanon, it follows the commands of Damascus.

Nature Freak said:
I suspect some right wing Christians secretly admire Wahabism and some of the other forms of radical Islam.

I suspect you have an overactive imagination mixed with a strong dose of paranoia.

Nature Freak said:
* Proudpatriot is a proud homophobic.

This avatar suits you matches your screen name.
If you got “homophobic” from proudpatriots post,
then I suggest putting down the crack pipe.

Seriously, are you always stoned?

Azarkhan said:
Absolutely! We can expect gay marriage any day now in the 1.2 billion strong Muslim world.

The Muslim world is way more complex and changing than most of the haters give it credit for. There are gays throughout the Muslim world, and they are fighting for their freedom. I would not be surprised to see a country like Turkey or Lebanon legalize gay marriage by 2030.

Do you wish to emulate the Islamic world? I suspect some right wing Christians secretly admire Wahabism and some of the other forms of radical Islam.

Not all Muslims are intolerant, nor are all Christians. The ones that are give the rest a bad name.

Azarkhan said:
I would not be surprised to see Turkey become an Islamic Republic by 2030. As for Lebanon, it follows the commands of Damascus.

I suspect you have an overactive imagination mixed with a strong dose of paranoia.

No, unlike most right wing bigots I deal in logic and facts. The Islamic world is facing the same growing pains as the rest of the world. Much of radical Islam is a last ditch response to the changes.

Azarkhan, I know what side you were on in Selma, Birmingham and Scottsboro. But there is hope even for you. Governor Wallace even repented towards the end. You may (I can’t say for certain) enjoy the Stormfront website.

tiredofbs said:
This avatar suits you matches your screen name.
If you got “homophobic” from proudpatriots post,
then I suggest putting down the crack pipe.

Seriously, are you always stoned?

I haven’t done illegal drugs for years. I am I admit a freak of nature. I thought Christians loved all the little children?

It was very obvious Proudpatriot was objecting to gay rights. That is what the above article is about. Bigotry towards gays is just as bad as bigotry towards persons of color.

And GLBT people will not sit on the back of the bus any longer!

Nature Freak said:
No, unlike most right wing bigots I deal in logic and facts. The Islamic world is facing the same growing pains as the rest of the world. Much of radical Islam is a last ditch response to the changes.

I love how you and the Eric Holders of the world know so much more about Islam than Muslims. I’m afraid you are in for a few surprises, beginning with Egypt in September.

Message from the future:

Your grandkids really want Democrats to stop perpetuating the Welfare State of Dependency – using taxpayer monies, and particulalarly in minority areas – in order to Buy Votes!

In fact, petition your local GOP reps to run this campaign to minorities, asking:

“Look around the neighborhood. Outside of playing you for fools with the Race-Card LIE, what have Democrats done in exchange for your 5-Decades of supporting them?
Isn’t it time to give the free markets a chance to improve your lives?”

I am quite sure if a future descendant channeled into my universe, he or she (not it) would very emphatically ask me to spread the word against gay marriage. You see there is that little problem – he and his fellow children will never get born if gay marriage spreads too much. Abnormal behavior, while tolerated, should not be promoted nor paraded. It will be our doom.

I think a more realistic message from the future would be this, ” Why did you so foolishly increase your national debt? The dollar has been so devalued the Chinese Empire wouldn’t even accept it when we wanted to pay back the now trillions we owe them. They said toilet paper is not a form of currency. So we asked if we could have more time to pay. They said no, pay now or else.So long story short Alaska, Washington state, Oregon, Hawaii, Idaho, California, and Navada are now called the Imperial Xicou providence , so thanks for that. The gay marriage debate you had at the time was stupid. While everybody was wasting time talking about if government should have the power to grant or take away rights (It dosen’t BTW) you where not dealing with the real problems of your time. Now in the future, everybody is suffering. Gays and straights alike. And it’s because you stupid primitive chimps couldn’t deal with the real problems that affected you all.”

Azarkhan said:
I would not be surprised to see Turkey become an Islamic Republic by 2030. As for Lebanon, it follows the commands of Damascus.

I suspect you have an overactive imagination mixed with a strong dose of paranoia.

You worry about Turkey being an Islamic republic but I suspect you have no problem with those Conservatives who call this a Christian “country” or republic. Different sides same coin.

Radical Christians may use different means to a end, but they are no better than Radical Islamists.
What is happening in the middle east is too complex for many of the simpletons on the right to understand.

I will say this, what happened with the Scopes “Monkey Trial” is applicable to this situation. Modernity vs recent Tradition. Both Christianity and Islam are facing modernity head on. This creates outward strife and a hostile reaction. The United States is lucky it has not faced worse violence than it already has from extreme right wing Christians.

I suspect most of this strife will be worked out for the good in the next 50 years. Religions are always evolving. Regarding the long term outlook I am very optimistic.

Oh, I forgot…

TEAM AMERICA…F@#* YEAH

American Exceptionalisim from the far right is Exceptionally stupid and causes blowback (you know what I am talking about). And BTW I do love my country.
Obama is not the problem, radical Conservatism is.

Sorry about getting off topic. I found Jon’s article to be funny and spot on. Many here on this site are “ironically impaired” and humorless. The comparison to other civil rights movements are obvious. People b!#@h and scream at first about social change and then deny they ever opposed it.

Get over yourself, Nature Freak. Being homosexual is a choice, not part of a genetic code. (If it WERE genetic, it would have been selected out many generations ago.) Personally, I could not care less whether someone is homosexual or not. I care about their behavior. I am not interested in anyone else’s sex life. Period.

America is an exceptional nation- an idea and an ideal. It WAS founded on Judeo-Christian values, whether YOU like it or not. It is people like you who undermine it. If you don’t like this country, please feel free to go somewhere else- no one is stopping you from emigrating.

Quit being part of the problem, learn some history and some humility and quit getting stoned. You’re not nearly as clever as you think you are- you are only as sick as your secrets.

Nature Freak said:
Proudpatriot is a proud homophobic.

Nature Freak is a proud homophile

TillieGlockenspiel said:
Get over yourself, Nature Freak. Being homosexual is a choice, not part of a genetic code. (If it WERE genetic, it would have been selected out many generations ago.) Personally, I could not care less whether someone is homosexual or not. I care about their behavior. I am not interested in anyone else’s sex life. Period. America is an exceptional nation- an idea and an ideal. It WAS founded on Judeo-Christian values, whether YOU like it or not. It is people like you who undermine it. If you don’t like this country, please feel free to go somewhere else- no one is stopping you from emigrating. Quit being part of the problem, learn some history and some humility and quit getting stoned. You’re not nearly as clever as you think you are- you are only as sick as your secrets.

Agreed

Hey Grandkids! It’s me BubbaOxyCon69. I’m so proud that in the future, you have discovered how to conceive babies in your anal cavity. And who would have ever of thought that having an abortion was just as easy as getting a enema? Anyhow, enjoy this video…it’s what us old timers used to think was funny back in our day.

Nature Freak said:
I need to dress up like the dude on the right for Halloween.

You have to love how people in the 1950’s conceptualized garb of the future. Maybe I need to start a trend!

Just keep changing you avatar to some bizarre looking person each day.

Nature Freak said:
I haven’t done illegal drugs for years. I am I admit a freak of nature. I thought Christians loved all the little children?

It was very obvious Proudpatriot was objecting to gay rights. That is what the above article is about. Bigotry towards gays is just as bad as bigotry towards persons of color.

And GLBT people will not sit on the back of the bus any longer!

let me guess, you sucked a guy off just to prove to yourself you werent a homophobe? yeeeerrrr so cosmopolitan!!

cjd ohio 1 said:
stay away from the crack pipe jon, no more trips

Is this really all you have to say after such an interesting article? You don’t contribute anything to this website with your comments.

I thought it was a great article and it’s nice to remind the older generation that they will be judged by history.

Well, as a supporter of extending the legal benefits of marriage to same sex couples I found this piece really indicative of part of the problem we have in convincing the other side to join with us. It’s sneering and condescending and considers the opposing side as just not as “historically correct’ and “englightened” as our side.

Nonsense. Stop the sneering please. Recognize, if you can, that not all oppponents are benighted troglodytes living in caves.

People on the other side of this issue raise a legitimate concern about making what they consider dangerous and reckless changes in a fundamental institution in our society. And that, in their view, a man-and-a-man or a woman-and-a-woman REGARDLESS OF SEXUAL ORIENTATION – is fundamentally different than a man-and-a-woman. And that civil unions or other measures should be enough to satisfy the needs of gay couples.

Those are fair and decent views.

As I said above, I think these concerns are exaggerated and that recognizing same sex marriages will have at worst marginal effects on the institution of marriage. And that the benefits of allowing gay couples to be legally married will be greater.

No, our opponents I think are wrong. But they’re deserving of respect and not condescencion like this.

There’s not a gay oriented periodical in the world where this utterly self-indulgent anti-intellectual crap would pass muster.

That’s the best one can say about anyone in the world, regardless of who they wish to bang.

“I’d love to tell you more about it but I think I accidentally stopped my parents from meeting and I might not exist soon. Better go fix that! Talk to you later!”

Well, you’re saying a mouthful about natural law here, are you not,….but perhaps you can pick up the petri dish and save yourself.

OxyCon said:
Hey Grandkids! It’s me BubbaOxyCon69. I’m so proud that in the future, you have discovered how to conceive babies in your anal cavity. And who would have ever of thought that having an abortion was just as easy as getting a enema? Anyhow, enjoy this video…it’s what us old timers used to think was funny back in our day.

Bart Baker? I thought it was Cliff Claven!

Cecelia said:
There’s not a gay oriented periodical in the world where this utterly self-indulgent anti-intellectual crap would pass muster. That’s the best one can say about anyone in the world, regardless of who they wish to bang.

I was being kinder.

Imagine an opponent of same sex marriage writing about visiting the future and meeting with our grandchildren and having them state that they couldn’t understand why we changed the institution of marriage. And that our re-defining of it severely damaged future society.

It’d be viewed as self-indulgent nonsense and juvenilia.

Really, this is high school level writing and thinking.

And I’m a supporter of same sex marriage.

SteveMG said:
Really, this is high school level writing and thinking.

And I’m a supporter of same sex marriage.

This is what you get when any alternative argument to making grandpa and grandpa the equivalent of grandpa and grandma is designated as the equivalent of segregation at best, slavery at worst.

as the equivalent of segregation at best, slavery at worst.

Yeah, that argument frosts me the most. To compare what black people suffered under Jim Crow to the unwillingness to extend legal marriage to same sex couples is ridiculous.

I think denying the legal benefits to same sex couples is unfair. And I’m sure it hurts some gay people. I want to change the law to help them. I don’t see if making that much of a difference to the institution of marriage. Certainly some but not enough to damage it.

But to compare the plight of gay people and marriage to segregation is just moral preening.

If my side on this would just respect the other side and fairly consider their thoughts we’d be a heckuva lot better off. Instead, we just sneer and dismiss them. No wonder they don’t want to see our point. We don’t want to see theirs!

SteveMG said:
If my side on this would just respect the other side and fairly consider their thoughts we’d be a heckuva lot better off. Instead, we just sneer and dismiss them. No wonder they don’t want to see our point. We don’t want to see theirs!

It’s called tribalism.

You might find this interesting: http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/formans/LiberalCaseAgainstGayMarriage.htm

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“I’d love to tell you more about it but I think I accidentally stopped my parents from meeting and I might not exist soon. Better go fix that! Talk to you later!”

Well, you’re saying a mouthful about natural law here, are you not,….but perhaps you can pick up the petri dish and save yourself.

Well done there!
lol

Snowspot said:
Is this really all you have to say after such an interesting article? You don’t contribute anything to this website with your comments.

I thought it was a great article and it’s nice to remind the older generation that they will be judged by history.

Snowspot you are the voice of reason here.

History will judge many of the bigots and haters commenting on this thread. Fifteen years from now they will deny everything, just like some of the old folks did in my family.

Nature Freak said:
You worry about Turkey being an Islamic republic but I suspect you have no problem with those Conservatives who call this a Christian “country” or republic. Different sides same coin. Radical Christians may use different means to a end, but they are no better than Radical Islamists.What is happening in the middle east is too complex for many of the simpletons on the right to understand. I will say this, what happened with the Scopes “Monkey Trial” is applicable to this situation. Modernity vs recent Tradition. Both Christianity and Islam are facing modernity head on. This creates outward strife and a hostile reaction. The United States is lucky it has not faced worse violence than it already has from extreme right wing Christians. I suspect most of this strife will be worked out for the good in the next 50 years. Religions are always evolving. Regarding the long term outlook I am very optimistic.

Except Christians aren’t slaughtering innocent “infidels” because their belief systems do not comport with the indoctrinated ideological identities of these religious zealots!

Nature Freak said:
History will judge many of the bigots and haters commenting on this thread. Fifteen years from now they will deny everything, just like some of the old folks did in my family.

Don’t count on it, sweetheart.

SteveMG said:
I was being kinder.

Imagine an opponent of same sex marriage writing about visiting the future and meeting with our grandchildren and having them state that they couldn’t understand why we changed the institution of marriage. And that our re-defining of it severely damaged future society.

It’d be viewed as self-indulgent nonsense and juvenilia.

Really, this is high school level writing and thinking.

And I’m a supporter of same sex marriage.

I enjoyed this article and found it well written. Thank you again Jon.

BTW I can respect someone supporting gay rights but supports civil unions rather than gay marriage.

Many of the people commenting on this thread I suspect hate gays as well, and consider them perverted. And no, this is not projecting. I myself have been called homophobic names myself on forums for expressing my opinions on GLBT rights. If allowing consenting adults to love who they want to love to the full extent of the law is not a civil rights issue then there is no such thing as civil rights.

This goes way beyond “should Gays marry? SteveMG, If strongly objecting to bigotry makes people “uppity”,
oh well.

Where I live in central Florida you can be fired for simply being GLBT without ANY repercussions. Totally legal in my county. Discrimination is rampant here and blatant. Especially towards Trans persons and gay men.

NO MORE SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE BUS OR BEING KICKED OFF THE BUS!

Cecelia said:
Don’t count on it, sweetheart.

George Wallace, Orval Faubus, and Bull Conner said the same thing.

It must be nice being in their company. You probably consider them role models.

Things did not work out quite like these three expected. History can do that to the bigoted and hateful. George Wallace at least repented later on.

Nature Freak said:
Where I live in central Florida you can be fired for simply being GLBT without ANY repercussions. Totally legal in my county. Discrimination is rampant here and blatant. Especially towards Trans persons and gay men.

NO MORE SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE BUS OR BEING KICKED OFF THE BUS!

Right… and there’s no way to stop that, other than supporting gay marriage.

Nature Freak said:
t must be nice being in their company. You probably consider them role models.

You know it, Plato…

I’m doubtful – but admittedly don’t know – whether a future generation will look upon a society that offers civil unions to same sex couples but limits marriage to opposite sex couples as a benighted and bigoted civilization.

Since history shows that civilizations sometimes decay as much as they “progress”, no one knows what a generation 100 years from now will look like. For all we know, they may think human cannibalism is the right diet for humans.

As to this: “SteveMG, If strongly objecting to bigotry makes people “uppity”,”

No, my point – if you re-read it – was that not all opponents of same sex marriage are benighted bigots. That they have legitimate concerns about changing a fundamental institution. And that, in their view, offering civil unions to gay couples should meet the wishes of gay people.

I think to consider them as bigots or “out of touch” people that will be laughed at by future generations is unkind and arrogant.

Sceptics or opponents of gay marriage are all bigots analogous to Wallace and Thurmond and the segregationists?

See, this is exactly what the problem is. Or part of it. The unwillingess to distinguish between those who indeed hate gay people for simply being gay and those who are worried – incorrectly in my view – that same sex marriage may cause harm to that institution and society.

Tolerance apparently only goes one way.

SteveMG said:
I think to consider them as bigots or “out of touch” people that will be laughed at by future generations is unkind and arrogant.

In this particular moron’s case, you’re still “being kinder”.

Cecelia said:
Right… and there’s no way to stop that, other than supporting gay marriage.

This is about Gay Marriage, it is also about Gay rights in general. The two are intertwined and you know it.

Can’t you be more creative than calling me a moron?

LOL LOL LOL LOL!

SteveMG said:
Well, as a supporter of extending the legal benefits of marriage to same sex couples I found this piece really indicative of part of the problem we have in convincing the other side to join with us. It’s sneering and condescending and considers the opposing side as just not as “historically correct’ and “englightened” as our side. Nonsense. Stop the sneering please. Recognize, if you can, that not all oppponents are benighted troglodytes living in caves. ……No, our opponents I think are wrong. But they’re deserving of respect and not condescencion like this.

Could not agree more! It’s just like being an environmentalist. People literally are so sick of condescending environmentalists they won’t listen to how important it is for health and the environment to make simple but better green choices. Like you said, being insulting and condescending hurts the attempts by the rest of us to make people undertstand that gay marriage is not just a word, it means equality. Not helping the cause but hurting it…

Nature Freak said:
This is about Gay Marriage, it is also about Gay rights in general. The two are intertwined and you know it.

Can’t you be more creative than calling me a moron?

LOL LOL LOL LOL!

Nah. it’s just a predictable attempt to suggest that the whole subject is inarguable, and yeah, I can get more creative… you aren’t just a moron, you’re a moron with bad taste in music.

When the issue of states honoring out of state gay marriages reaches the Supreme Court. I more than suspect that Anthony Kennedy will make the constitutional decision that the Full Faith and Credit Clause requires all 50 states to require recognition of marriages. I would not even be surprised to have a defector from the right making it a 6 to 3 decision vs. a 5 to 4 one.

On a related note I am amused that so many social conservatives are heartbroken over Ted Olsen and his involvement in the movement for same sex equality. The same goes for Ken Melman.
Too bad…

Again, Gay marriage is the right thing to do. So is civil rights in general for GLBT people in every state of the union.

At least I am on the winning side of history and have a clear conscious. Thank God for the uppity people of color who stood up against discrimination (and still do) and thank God for the uppity GLBT people and their friends/family who do likewise.
This is a major civil rights issue and I refuse to pretend otherwise.

We shall overcome,
We shall overcome,
We shall overcome, some day.
Oh, deep in my heart,
I do believe
We shall overcome, some day.
We’ll walk hand in hand,
We’ll walk hand in hand,
We’ll walk hand in hand, some day.
Oh, deep in my heart,
We shall live in peace,
We shall live in peace,

Nature Freak said:
At least I am on the winning side of history and have a clear conscious. Thank God for the uppity people of color who stood up against discrimination (and still do) and thank God for the uppity GLBT people and their friends/family who do likewise.
This is a major civil rights issue and I refuse to pretend otherwise.

It might be instructive to you to look at polls on how much the uppity people of color identify their struggle with the notion that there’s no difference between ma and pa, and ma and ma.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/11/70-of-african-a.html

Cecelia said:
Nah. it’s just a predictable attempt to suggest that the whole subject is inarguable, and yeah, I can get more creative… you aren’t just a moron, you’re a moron with bad taste in music.

What songs do you dislike?
I can mix it up a bit..
Or are you only into top 40 country?
Bieber?
Jonas?

Nature Freak said:
What songs do you dislike?
I can mix it up a bit..
Or are you only into top 40 country?
Bieber?
Jonas?

No…

Nature Freak said:
What songs do you dislike?
I can mix it up a bit..

No…

Nature Freak said:
I can mix it up a bit..

What? You’re more than willing to now change your avatar to chanting monks?

Cecelia said:
It might be instructive to you to look at polls on how much the uppity people of color identify their struggle with the notion that there’s no difference between ma and pa, and ma and ma.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/11/70-of-african-a.html

Their hearts will change one at a time. More AA support it than 10 years ago. Way more. Has to do with the prevalence of evangelical churches (BTW there are tolerant evang. churches as well)

You are giving me lots of attention tonight if all I am is a moron. I do not understand why you don’t ignore this “freak of nature”.

You must see something special in me. You like me! You really like me!

I must leave internet land as I have real work to do. Sweet Dreams.

Nature Freak said:
I must leave internet land as I have real work to do. Sweet Dreams.

You too.

Don’t work too hard with pulling out the sofa bed!

Nature Freak said:
Their hearts will change one at a time. More AA support it than 10 years ago. Way more. Has to do with the prevalence of evangelical churches (BTW there are tolerant evang. churches as well)

You are giving me lots of attention tonight if all I am is a moron. I do not understand why you don’t ignore this “freak of nature”.

You must see something special in me. You like me! You really like me!

I must leave internet land as I have real work to do. Sweet Dreams.

maybe when you come back you can show me the bathrooms and drinking fountains the gays were forced to use. also, id love to see the gays being forced to sit in the back of the bus and their right to vote being hampered…

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None of this will help the Western European and American caucasian birth rates. Maybe that’s the underlying point of it, a series of political movements created a long time ago by various puppeteers, an accepted reality by the average shallow person. Interesting how one leftist cause after another leads to lower caucasian birth rates. What will they come up with next? Of course, this may be the final act. Now they can just let it all run it’s course, and we wake up as another Brazil, a handful of very rich people, in a mostly poor, dark country, our anglo-saxon heritage flushed away in a series of liberal political movements.

Hey, Jon Bershad,

Thanks for letting me know what a sanctimonious a-hole my GGGGGS turns out to be. I’m getting a vasectomy on Monday!

dougx said:
None of this will help the Western European and American caucasian birth rates. Maybe that’s the underlying point of it, a series of political movements created a long time ago by various puppeteers, an accepted reality by the average shallow person. Interesting how one leftist cause after another leads to lower caucasian birth rates. What will they come up with next? Of course, this may be the final act. Now they can just let it all run it’s course, and we wake up as another Brazil, a handful of very rich people, in a mostly poor, dark country, our anglo-saxon heritage flushed away in a series of liberal political movements.

dougx, You really need to check out Stormfront online. White Supremacy is your game!

KKK KKK KKK KKK KKK KKK KKK
Moonman on YMTMD should be your avatar dougx. I hope you are just attempting to be ironic. If so I apologize.
KKK KKK KKK
Shopping Carts…Moon Lasers…Farkkkle…

dougx said:
None of this will help the Western European and American caucasian birth rates. Maybe that’s the underlying point of it, a series of political movements created a long time ago by various puppeteers, an accepted reality by the average shallow person. Interesting how one leftist cause after another leads to lower caucasian birth rates. What will they come up with next? Of course, this may be the final act. Now they can just let it all run it’s course, and we wake up as another Brazil, a handful of very rich people, in a mostly poor, dark country, our anglo-saxon heritage flushed away in a series of liberal political movements.

Brazil will soon be one of the most powerful countries in the world. I would live in Brazil.

Heil Hitler dougx!

Dougx, you have proven my point. Thank you for doing that. You have a problem with White Gays because they do not tend to have lots of children. This hurts the master race. White procreation is important. Joseph Mengele would have felt the same way.

Racism and intolerance sucks. Exhibit A” dougx.

Uber allies Caucasians! (sarc. alert0

Moonman at YMTMD is a great meme.

Cecelia said:
You too.

Don’t work too hard with pulling out the sofa bed!

Cecelia, do you support what dougx has to say?

Seriously, I am curious.

clear societal progressions = fall of rome..
does history teach nothing? guess not.

They tell me i cannot smoke in public places..
Yet I can look through the window and watch the rainbows inside.

Life sure has changed in America..most say for the best..
Im just an American, don’t tread on me while making all these laws for the “liberal” side.
Our republic supports equal rights.. if your on the left side of the voting card.
You all created it..now live with it…

That is so funny because I recently went into a time machine as well.. There was hardly any people because the gay agenda prevents children from being born. There were a few people that had survived the whole gay agenda assault but their were conceived in a petrie cups so they were definitely messed up! And their was no thriving happy economy because their were no people.. Oh and guess what the earth was not destroyed by climate change.. haha imagine that.

Nature Freak said:
Cecelia, do you support what dougx has to say?

Seriously, I am curious.

From what I can make out, DougX is opining on some leftist plot to bring down the white baby birth rate.

So because I believe in civil unions for homosexuals, rather than marriage, I’m somehow suspect as being in support of such an asinine theory”?

Fact: Modern medicine has cured the gay gene defect. Great that’s what the futures grandchlidren have said. They just didn’t understand how it use to be a issue in the new age.

Quite possibly the most condescending, poorly written, incoherent hot mess of a column I have ever read on this site.

It took you four paragraphs of gimmicky, hipster-wannabe jibberish – after a stupid faux-intro of yourself, to get to the outer layer of your insulting rant of ‘tolerance’.

Listen little man, I am a proud Tea Party Conservative, and while I may hold traditional views on marriage, I had no problem flying out to a gay wedding in Montreal and showing my full-hearted support for some of my closest of friends. I am insulted – not only for the way progressives stereotype people of my religious or political beliefs as being bigots, but how people such yourself have this ignorant mindset that every gay person is the fragile debutaunte from Glee who needs a self -righteous person like you to constantly defend them from our thought-crimes.

Do you even have any openly gay friends, Jon? Because if you did you would know that they are some of the proudest and most emotionally toughest people out there RATHER than the quivering scared child plucked from a make-a-wish infomercial you have them depicted as. In the end, you not only insulted your readers with your insinuations, you also flashed your Oceanian sized hypocrisy to us as well.

Oh…2 plus 2 is 4!

Funny, my great, great, great grand kids are telling me, why the hell didn’t you put a stop to this sick crap when you could have?!!

Mykonos08 said:
Quite possibly the most condescending, poorly written, incoherent hot mess of a column I have ever read on this site.

It took you four paragraphs of gimmicky, hipster-wannabe jibberish – after a stupid faux-intro of yourself, to get to the outer layer of your insulting rant of ‘tolerance’.

Listen little man, I am a proud Tea Party Conservative, and while I may hold traditional views on marriage, I had no problem flying out to a gay wedding in Montreal and showing my full-hearted support for some of my closest of friends. I am insulted – not only for the way progressives stereotype people of my religious or political beliefs as being bigots, but how people such yourself have this ignorant mindset that every gay person is the fragile debutaunte from Glee who needs a self -righteous person like you to constantly defend them from our thought-crimes.

Do you even have any openly gay friends, Jon? Because if you did you would know that they are some of the proudest and most emotionally toughest people out there RATHER than the quivering scared child plucked from a make-a-wish infomercial you have them depicted as. In the end, you not only insulted your readers with your insinuations, you also flashed your Oceanian sized hypocrisy to us as well.

Oh…2 plus 2 is 4!

(applause)
TY Well said

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Modern medicine has cured the gay gene defect. Great that’s what the futures grandchlidren have said. They just didn’t understand how it use to be a issue in the new age.

A more realistic scenario for the future is that scientists isolate the genetic “light switch” for homosexuality, and in most cases where it’s found, the mother’s exercise the right to their own bodies by aborting the fetus.

Same goes for those “unfortunates” with a genetic tendency towards pudginess or male patterned baldness…

Brave new progressive world…

Cecelia said:
From what I can make out, DougX is opining on some leftist plot to bring down the white baby birth rate.

So because I believe in civil unions for homosexuals, rather than marriage, I’m somehow suspect as being in support of such an asinine theory”?

Thank you for your comment. I wish I had read it earlier.
I apologize. You are saner than I thought.
I actually like chanting monks and I find it beautiful. That does not mean I agree with the Catholic Church on many things. I also love Indian (India) chanting. I love all different music.
Maybe our disagreements are about misunderstandings. Do realize I have GLBT family and friends so I take it personally more than i maybe should. Perhaps I am making false assumptions about you.
I am no Atheist. I believe in a God. I just believe literally interpreting the Bible is wrong.
Forums like this promote conflict. That is a downside. I may not be as much of an as@h#%e as you think.
But maybe I am.

Nature Freak

Cecelia said:
A more realistic scenario for the future is that scientists isolate the genetic “light switch” for homosexuality, and in most cases where it’s found, the mother’s exercise the right to their own bodies by aborting the fetus.

Same goes for those “unfortunates” with a genetic tendency towards pudginess or male patterned baldness…

Brave new progressive world…

I like my baldness. I did not like my hair when I had it (could not do anything with it).
My beard kicksa$$.

BTW I understand your point here.

Nature Freak said:
Brazil will soon be one of the most powerful countries in the world. I would live in Brazil.

Heil Hitler dougx!

Dougx, you have proven my point. Thank you for doing that. You have a problem with White Gays because they do not tend to have lots of children. This hurts the master race. White procreation is important. Joseph Mengele would have felt the same way.

Racism and intolerance sucks. Exhibit A” dougx.

The liberals main purpose is to make Americans who are European descendants (EAs) a small percentage of the American population and have Europe overrun by Muslims. The #1 birth name in Britain is Mohammed. Now who made these legal changes in Britain that caused this? Liberals of course, the enemy of all Europeans and their descendants. I go by results and that is what has happened as a result of the policies they advocate and fight to enact. People have this absurd idea that you can just interchangeably swap races in a nation and the economy and civilization will be as great as before. No it will not and it’s being proven right now. We are devolving and slowly going down the drain because the European percentage of the American population is decreasing.

EAs are disliked by the intelligentsia because they are difficult to control. They were the first people in the world to build a Middle Class. The puppeteers do not want a middle class and the most effective way to get rid of it is to slowly eliminate the people who aspire to that life. Notice that the EAs have gone from 85% to 65% of the population and the wages keep going down? Notice that this does not happen in Germany? The puppeteers want a country of a small percentage of EAs, and the rest an amalgamation of other races that they can easily control with low pay and a few bones offered by the central government to keep them relatively content.

One more thing to make it hit home a little. Don’t assume the new people coming in are going to want to keep flying the Stars and Stripes. They have already been taking down the pictures of the Founding Fathers in local governments they control. When we reach that tipping point nationally, Old Glory is coming down. I can pretty much guarantee it unless we totally reverse what we are doing.

I don’t know why I didn’t think of it before, but what does this crude bit of propaganda have to do with the media?

Nature Freak said:
You are saner than I thought.

Good to know…

The monk music thing was just sarcasm, not a genre preference.

I like you too.