I have seen the ads for this program, and I am very pleased MSNBC is airing this. We tend to forget the very real threat of domestic terrorism, particularly, at this time in our history, domestic terrorism from the right. It is a very real threat to us.

Same here. Going to be a very interesting program. Hopefully McVeigh will be the only one of his kind…but with today’s climate you never know.

“Of course, should they be referring to the Hutaree group from Michigan “than” it’s not a great leap”

grammar, grammar

Oh but it’s ok to be an anti-government freedom fighter when it comes homosexuality equal rights and gay marriage. Madcow, McVeigh was a sick man. Making a generalization that the despicable in in 1995 was
what the mindset of the average anti-big government individual is as rediculous as fearing gay people because they all have AIDS. Get a clue!

Oh, but it’s ok to be an anti-government freedom fighter when it comes homosexuality equal rights and gay marriage?
Madcow, McVeigh was a sick man. Making a generalization that the despicable act in 1995 was and is the mind set of the average anti-big government individual is as rediculous as fearing gay people because they all have AIDS.
Get a clue!

This isn’t even progressive hypocrisy, it’s just progressive stupidity.

If you attempt to discuss a link between the Ft. Hood shooting (which was conducted by someone who, literally, had “Solider of Allah” ON HIS BUSINESS CARD!!!!) and Islam, then you are deemed a bigoted hater. But now MSNBC is going to attempt to draw a link between Timothy McVeigh and a peaceful movement that simply believes that big government is not the answer to all our problems–particularly when the real federal deficit (unfunded future obligations reduced to current value consistent with Generally Accepted Accounting Procedures) is greater than the GDP of the entire world.

Kudos to Glynnis for a fair and appropriately toned article on this.

Mark your reference to Maddow as MADCOW tells the entire story here.

The only story it tells is one of progressive hypocrisy and progressive double standards.

This is completely outrageous, but I really think that conservatives complaining about MSNBC is not going to do any good at this point. I really think that it is time that we organize a boycott of the entire NBC network and Microsoft, which still owns an 18% ownership interest in MSNBC.

What does anyone expect from MSDNC,the liberal news network?

It’s a shame that any network so shamelessly exploits disaster and tragedy to promote an agenda.I know other networks are also guilty but that’s not this thread.

The mere fact that Maddow is hosting tells the whole story of what messages this programs hopes to send.

Which ultimately renders it irrelevant.

I hope it can explain KO and RM.

MSNBC, this is for you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBh3r2mVFR8

Bawahaaaaaaa

Perhaps we ought to way until the show has been aired to comment on the substance of it. Generally, Ms. Maddow researches very well. Let’s all hope she does this time, as well.

I am sure that everyone, other than Jeff Merrill, who understands nothing, agrees that this is an important topic. I think it a bit unseemly that our rightist friends object seemingly without reflection to this broadcast. At various times in our Republic’s history, domestic terrorism has come from the left, at others times from the right. At this time, all credible domestic terrorist threats are coming from the right. And, be clear, I am not considering the customary Tea Party ugliness a terrorist threat. Are my rightist friends suggesting that there is no domestic terror threat in the US?

AF: As for Fort Hood, yes, the action came from someone purporting to be Islamic. The Michigan threats come from people purporting to be Christian. How does this advance any argument?

RRK:

Because if violence comes from someone purporting to be a conservative, I get blamed for it. Here. On these boards. By you. Didn’t you yourself once call me a follower of Tim McVeigh?

If I did, I was being sarcastic, or I made an error, for which I would profusely apologize. As a reasonable person who loves his Republic, and, more importantly, understands it, you would be no more responsible for rightist terrorism than I would be for an outbreak of leftist terrorism.

Olby Sucks says:
April 12, 2010 at 10:45 am

This isn’t even progressive hypocrisy, it’s just progressive stupidity.

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Please stop throwing out the words “hypocrisy” and “progressive” as if they were Mardi Gras beads at 23:55 Hours on Shrove Tuesday. You have not even the slightest understanding of either term. Just entertain us with your monosyllabic grunts. It will be a release for you whilst helping us to avoid headaches in unraveling your senselessness. A “win-win”, as it were ….

Glynnis said that MSNBC may be sweeping the tea partiers in with McVeigh. Maybe she won’t do that. Maybe the sun will rise in the west.

By ‘she’, I meant Maddow. Not you, Glynnis.

Sure. McVeigh is certainly something for all GOPsters to shoot for. That group of lowbrow bottom feeders who represent the dark side of human behavior and thinkig and which creates a breeding ground for pestilence, hatred, and other assorted evils. Look at your “present.” Read your”history.” Those few of you who are capable of doing wither. Duh.

We shouldn’t lump all Islamists in with the terrorists. But if you want to lump all tea partiers and Republicans in with McVeigh, let ‘er rip.

Some people claim that McVeigh was a CIA plant. He was planted so the government would have some sort of excuse for going after somebody they wanted to go after. I wouldn’t be surprise of this being true.

The headline should read, “Can McVeigh Help Us Understand The Tea Party?”

Another odd article by Mediaite attempting to discredit MSNBC.

What part of the specific violent rhetoric of the past year exemplified by anti-government extremists such as the teabaggers have you missed? They’ve been talking gov’t overthrow and revolution for the past year under the guise of no more taxes, even after receiving cuts to income tax rates. No actual logic or knowledge of reality there, just anger and hate.

Simple: McVeigh was a terrorist who got a lot of his talking points from the militia movement, which gets a lot of their talking points from the right wing lies and myths concerning government takeovers. The scary part of where the US is now is that the GOP has adopted these talking points and made them mainstream.

Interesting and related : http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/4/11/856365/-Infighting

Yes, Daily Kos is certainly an unbiased source.

You know, I really wish both sides would just stop and realize that there are crazies on both sides period… Lumping hundreds of thousands, even millions of people into the Mcveigh crowd, is just wrong.. This is no more accurate, than lumping millions of people on the left in with the (Weather underground) who set off a bomb at the pentagon, and FALN who tried to assasinate, President Truman, stormed the House of Representatives, and set off bombs in New York City.. Nor would it be right to lump the left in domestic terror groups such as ALF the (Animal liberation front) and ELF the (Earth liberation front) which together has bombed, destroyed buildings, and since 1996 caused 43 million dollars in damage.

Please guys, stop blindly following both the left and right and lumping whole groups of people into murderers and madmen.. We are all americans, with a political difference. If you called people who protested the war unamerican and dangerous you were wrong then, and if you call people unamerican and dangerous for being a tea party member, you are wrong now. Take a step back, most of these people are friends, neighbors, coworkers, relatives people that are just passionate in what they believe, that does not make one crazy. Please keep that in mind.