What Jocelyn Rousey is saying makes no sense. If someone comes here to commit a crime, they don’t get to go free: if convicted they serve their sentence here.

P.S. Even the LATimes noted birth tourism – those coming here specifically to have U.S. citizen children albeit not in their case in the terrorism context – over four years ago. Try and keep up.

I wonder why his story of how he sat next to a grandmother on a plane bragging about her daughters husband being in HAMAS is not noted here, of course we all have had to sit next to the only person on a DOMESTIC US FLIGHT bragging about the family connections to terrorist groups coming here to have babies, which you conservatives believe without considering that the wife of a member of HAMAS would NEVER get a tourist visa, or the fact that a US Congressman sat on a flight while someone bragged about HAMAS and did not alert DHS or the FBI or TSA or anyone for that matter.

He reads in to the congressional record an article claiming the President is Hitler come again or some such nonsense, so he yanks another LIE right out of his ass to make everyone forget his previous slime attack of lies.

This just one more reason to never vote conservaligious or rethuglican.

Remember his solution is to exempt all terrorists from the JURISDICTION of the US and its laws, ONCE YOU ELIMINATE THE CONSTITUTIONAL BIRTH RIGHT OF CITIZENSHIP NO ONE IS SAFE AND NO ONES CITIZENSHIP IS VALID.

I saw this idiot last night on C-SPAN embarrassing Texas yet again. He was giving a fundamentalist sermon ala Crayola,albeit most of his crayons are broken.

BTW: just checked out his web site and he dont list no travel in the middle east last AUGUST it shows he was only in the US and TEXASS the entire month.

Now that he has said it I hope ISSA files an ethics complaint, there are records that prove he is lying, AND YES MY PREVIOUS POST SAID THE STORY WAS NOT NOTED HERE i was just practicing Gohmertism, you know the art of LYING out of your @$$.

Yeah, anchor babies a pretty bad but bomb babies are the worst..

Sure, it’s easy to laugh at this kind of scaremongering. Just like, ten years ago, you would have laughed at the idea that terrorists could bring down World Trade Center with hijacked planes.

Under this new law, illegal immigrants and visiting foreigners would no longer be subject to U.S. jurisdiction. So when the grown-up terrorist come back in a few decades to kill us, our courts and authorities wouldn’t have any jurisdiction over them at all. ”

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, Joselyn, I’m sure this has never occurred to you, but they could hold them and try them as enemy combatents in a military trial.

I guess you missed Kagan talking about this.

Thomas G Williams says:
July 2, 2010 at 6:06 pm

I thought it was the left’s constant claim that Hamas was a “democratically elected group.” If that’s the case, why would they denied a visa? What would/could Homeland do about it?

I love republicans. they prove every day how stupid and out of substance they are.

“Texas Republican Rep. Louis Gohmert is scared of babies. ”

“Gohmert Pyle” IS a baby!

“If someone comes here to commit a crime, they don’t get to go free: if convicted they serve their sentence here.”

Changing the law may make it legally impossible to TRY such a person in the first place. We may only be able to deport them – regardless of the severity of their crime. Gabbing Gohmert might consider the “law of unintended consequences” before pushing too hard for any changes.

“ten years ago, you would have laughed at the idea that terrorists could bring down World Trade Center with hijacked planes.”

The CIA wasn’t laughing when it tried to warn Bush a month before the attack, or at Bush’s reported response to the CIA briefer: “Okay, you covered your ass, now go back to Washington.”

Richard Clarke – the then-chief counter-terrorism adviser on the National Security Council – wasn’t laughing TWO months before the attack.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Clarke#Early_warnings_about_Al-Qaeda_threat :

“At a July 5, 2001 White House gathering of the FAA, the Coast Guard, the FBI, Secret Service and INS, Clarke stated that “Something really spectacular is going to happen here, and it’s going to happen soon.” Donald Kerrick, a three-star general who was a deputy National Security Advisor in the late Clinton administration and stayed on into the Bush administration, wrote Hadley a classified two-page memo stating that the NSA needed to “pay attention to Al-Qaida and counterterrorism” and that the U.S. would be “struck again.” As a result of writing that memo, he was not invited to any more meetings.”

Bad news wasn’t welcomed by the oblivious Bush administration. Come to think of it, NO news was welcomed by the oblivious Bush administration.

“I thought it was the left’s constant claim that Hamas was a “democratically elected group.” If that’s the case, why would they denied a visa? What would/could Homeland do about it?”

Thanks for disproving Gohmert’s point.

They weren’t denied visas because there was no cause to deny them. It’s Go(h)mer(t) who is baselessly accusing them of creating future “bouncing baby bombers” – an absurdist, inflammatory notion.

“Something really spectacular is going to happen here, and it’s going to happen soon.”

Wow, jrcmi, you dbag, that was certainly specific!

“Something”? What kind of “something?” Where? When? How?

you are a fking idiot.

Here is what Clinton did, ahole:

From the 9/11 Commission report:

Kandahar, May 1999
It was in Kandahar that perhaps the last, and most likely the best, opportunity
arose for targeting Bin Ladin with cruise missiles before 9/11. In May 1999,
CIA assets in Afghanistan reported on Bin Ladin’s location in and around Kandahar
over the course of five days and nights.The reporting was very detailed
and came from several sources. If this intelligence was not “actionable,”
working-level officials said at the time and today, it was hard for them to imagine
how any intelligence on Bin Ladin in Afghanistan would meet the standard.
Communications were good, and the cruise missiles were ready.“This was
in our strike zone,” a senior military officer said. “It was a fat pitch, a home
run.” He expected the missiles to fly.When the decision came back that they
should stand down, not shoot, the officer said,“we all just slumped.” He told
us he knew of no one at the Pentagon or the CIA who thought it was a bad
gamble. Bin Ladin “should have been a dead man” that night, he said.

jrcmi says:
July 3, 2010 at 3:11 am

And it comes back to the standard left-wing talking points about Bush.

You know, one of his biggest failures is giving the left something to talk about. Imagine, without him… they’d have nothing to say about anything! They don’t know or understand the issues, they don’t know or care about fairness or ethics… all they know is, “Bush = Bad” so that’s all they are able to talk about.

Darn you GWB. Without you, folks like jrcmi wouldn’t have posted such irrelevant, unsubstantiated, biased garbage… and might have had to stay on point. Oh wel.

ImNotBlue said:
jrcmi says:July 3, 2010 at 3:11 am And it comes back to the standard left-wing talking points about Bush. You know, one of his biggest failures is giving the left something to talk about. Imagine, without him… they’d have nothing to say about anything! They don’t know or understand the issues, they don’t know or care about fairness or ethics… all they know is, “Bush = Bad” so that’s all they are able to talk about. Darn you GWB. Without you, folks like jrcmi wouldn’t have posted such irrelevant, unsubstantiated, biased garbage… and might have had to stay on point. Oh wel.

As opposed to the 8 year ‘blame Clinton for 9/11′ the Republicans enjoyed and the new ‘blame Obama, it’s his problem” game you play now. In all the accusations of ‘Bush Blame Game’ from the right, they’d have you ignore the 600 pound gorilla in front of the television set — the right is on a ‘Blame Obama for it all and never hold the Republicans accountable’ path. Bush = Bad is in the news every day, from the wars to the economy to the bin Laden failure — and you, INB, are willfully blind.

Bill Adkins says:
July 3, 2010 at 12:35 pm

As opposed to the 8 year ‘blame Clinton for 9/11′ the Republicans enjoyed

Which didn’t actually happen…

and the new ‘blame Obama, it’s his problem” game you play now.

Wait, you mean finding accountability with the current President?! Oh no, how horrible!

In all the accusations of ‘Bush Blame Game’ from the right, they’d have you ignore the 600 pound gorilla in front of the television set — the right is on a ‘Blame Obama for it all and never hold the Republicans accountable’ path.

Yeah, except that’s not true either. Republicans (especially the pundits) often admit that failures of Bush’s 6-year Republican congress (remember, 2 of those years, the Democrats were in charge)… and over spent their fair share.

Except, when Obama was running for office, didn’t he say he’d fix things? How’s that working out?

It’s amazing to me how willing you are to blame any and all negatives on Bush and Republicans, and then try to gobble up any positive as the result of the Democrats actions. Of course, since we’ve all talked to you before, we know the type of hack you are… so it’s not really surprising, that’s just what you do. Defend at all costs, blame the other guy, make up “facts” to support your ideology.

Bush = Bad is in the news every day, from the wars to the economy to the bin Laden failure — and you, INB, are willfully blind.

Yeah yeah… everything bad now, or that has ever been, or will ever be is Bush’s fault. We got it. And this is why nobody takes you seriously.

As opposed to the 8 year ‘blame Clinton for 9/11′ the Republicans

Try again Bill.. Actually the leftists such as yourself blamed and continue to blame Bush Intel ‘ and Condi Rice for 9/11. Clinton was barely brought up .

Mark my words, this constant downplaying of the terrorist threat will backfire on the Left. After 9-11, the Democrats became pragmatic and vigilant, but it lasted about 30 days. Nowadays they ridicule and demean people who take the terrorist threat seriously.

But there is one good side to all of this. Voters now have a very clear choice between the two major parties when it comes to homeland security. The conservatives want to protect the nation against terrorists, while the Democrats believe that a key role of the Department of Homeland Security is to protect the nation against conservatives.

If you doubt this, just check out this Obama administration report for a little taste:

http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

Yo…boneheads, including Jocelyn Rousey…Google ‘pregnant suicide bombers’, click on just few of the sites and have someone read the information you find there to you. Once you’re up to speed, grow up.

ImNotBlue said:
Thomas G Williams says:
July 2, 2010 at 6:06 pm

I thought it was the left’s constant claim that Hamas was a “democratically elected group.” If that’s the case, why would they denied a visa? What would/could Homeland do about it?

Hey NOT SO BLUE it is and has been the official position of this government that HAMAS is a terrorist organization and the official position of the BUSH White House that HAMAS in GAZA is the elected government of the GAZA STRIP and by that they get to legitimately sit at the table for GAZA and no where else, this is the official position of the US, that does not entitle them to get off the list as a terrorist organization nor does it get them un-restricted rights to travel to or from the US, stop being an igno toad, you do not display the ignorance you have to your employer do you?

Tyler DUMB@$$ the 911 report also mentions that it had not received an explanation as to why a REPUBLICAN member of the group of eight demanded a 45 minit delay in the attack and left the room to make a call to the UAE from a White House phone line and that at the end of that call a call from the UAE to a satellite phone in the KANDAHAR region was made and that satellite images showed the compound where BIN LADEN was suspected to be was evacuated at the end of that call, so why fire the missiles when the guy was gone? Do not cherry pick points to spread disinformation about the facts when the whole thing in context shows a different story than the one you suggest @$$toad.

Liar liar is the only thing that applies to Texas Republican Rep. Louis Gohmerts assertions and false hoods, all the time and in every way.

TGW, don’t worry about TEXAS. You have enough on your hands as it is.

Patrick Henry said:
TGW, don’t worry about TEXAS. You have enough on your hands as it is.

Texas has so much to be proud of like George W. Dumbass.

Bill, Bush made some mistakes, we all do. His intentions were good, unlike our current president. I am proud of him and I’d take him over your man any day,

George W. Dumbass is the single greatest clusterfuck to ever occupy the Oval Office and you can take the sorry sack of shit and keep him, but don’t even think of that S.O.B. in office again. He did more damage to us than Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda misses him.

“George W. Dumbass is the single greatest clusterfuck to ever occupy the Oval Office and you can take the sorry sack of shit and keep him, but don’t even think of that S.O.B. in office again. He did more damage to us than Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda misses him. Dumbass is the single greatest clusterfuck to ever occupy the Oval Office and you can take the sorry sack of shit and keep him, but don’t even think of that S.O.B. in office again. He did more damage to us than Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda misses him.”

Are you sure you are not talking about our current President?

““Something really spectacular is going to happen here, and it’s going to happen soon.

Wow, jrcmi, you dbag, that was certainly specific!”

Did you bother to READ the wiki entry – or do you have trouble with two-syllable words? Bush received credible warnings from his own people, but was apparently as dense and ignorant as YOU are.

He WANTED a war. Did you?

It might have escaped your keen attention that we weren’t AT WAR with Afghanistan during the Clinton administration – ahole.

“And it comes back to the standard left-wing talking points about Bush.”

I didn’t mention 9/11.

“You know, one of his biggest failures is giving the left something to talk about.”

Hus VERY biggest “failure” was starting two illegal wars and killing thousands of American troops, and perhaps a million innocent civilians in the process.

“Darn you GWB. Without you, folks like jrcmi wouldn’t have posted such irrelevant, unsubstantiated, biased garbage… and might have had to stay on point.”

Which part of the wiki article is “garbage”? You tell me I’m wrong but offer no proof to the contrary. You’re no different than your ignorant “comrades” here. You are unable to replace their infantile insults with facts – because you don’t have any.

“As opposed to the 8 year ‘blame Clinton for 9/11′ the Republicans enjoyed’

Which didn’t actually happen…”

IMPEACHMENT? The pointless, expensive, politically-fueled Whitewater investigation? You won’t let facts get in the way of your opinion, though, will you?

“Bush’s 6-year Republican congress (remember, 2 of those years, the Democrats were in charge)”

The Dems only held the House – but you won’t let facts . . . nevermind.

Bush ignored the Congress – and the law – when it suited him . . . and it suited him a LOT.

“the leftists such as yourself blamed and continue to blame Bush Intel ‘ and Condi Rice for 9/11.”

They blame them for “cooked” intel. Bush lied. American troops died.

“they ridicule and demean people who take the terrorist threat seriously. ”

They are just as concerned as anyone on the right, but they refuse to be incited into blind, mindless hatred and foolish tragedies like Bush’s wars.

“Do not cherry pick points to spread disinformation about the facts when the whole thing in context shows a different story”

Cherry-picking is all they’ve got!

“Bush made some mistakes”

Yeah, he ran for prez instead of the Scotch bottle – or the blow.

“we all do.”

You are now.

“His intentions were good, unlike our current president. ”

Starting two wars showed Bush’s “good intentions”? Trying to end them shows Obama’s BAD intentions? R U serious?

I am serious. Bush did not start any wars, Al Quaida did. After 9/11 most people in this country were ready to go to war to stop the terrorists and those that aided them. By the way, what has Obama done to end them?

Patrick Henry said:
I am serious. Bush did not start any wars, Al Quaida did. After 9/11 most people in this country were ready to go to war to stop the terrorists and those that aided them. By the way, what has Obama done to end them?

The Blunder in Iraq is a large part of Bush’s legacy of failure.

“Bush did not start any wars, Al Quaida did.”

He damned well did – using bogus “intell” and outright lies.

None of the hijackers – or bin Laden – had anything to do with Iraq – but that’s where the oil was and that’s where W and Darth wanted to go.

Bin Laden attacked because he had a “bug up” about American troops being in his sacred Saudi Arabia. He probably despised Saddam Hussein as much as we do.

“After 9/11 most people in this country were ready to go to war to stop the terrorists and those that aided them. ”

Including me. Unfortunately, you can’t fight a “tactic” with bayonets and bombs..

Terrorism, per se, does not involve large, organized armies you can shoot at. Bush had to know this, but decided to use 9/11 as an excuse to invade a country that had absolutely nothing to do with the attack.

According to his autobiographer, Mickey Herskowitz, Bush wanted to be remembered as a great wartime president. WHICH war, exactly, was almost coincidental. Darth Cheney’s lust for “black gold,” evident from his first secret meeting with Big Oil execs weeks after he “took” office – left Iraq the target of Bush’s megalomania.

Damn his craven soul – if he has one.

“By the way, what has Obama done to end them?”

“By the way”? Do you typically ignore current events just because you don’t like the guy in the White House? Even the corporate media has reported the U.S. troop reductions in Iraq. The troop surge in Afghanistan will conclude mid-2011. We’ll see.

It was easier for your warmongering, war-criminal pal Bush to START the wars than it will be for Obama to END them. The moment he does, of course, you and the “neocon-men” will accuse him of “losing” them . . . as opposed to Nixon’s “honorable retreat.”

“The Blunder in Iraq is a large part of Bush’s legacy of failure.”

Calling it a “blunder” is too generous to Bush and Cheney. Invading Iraq was a calculated, deliberate, wanton, evil act of aggression. Ironically, it was exactly the sort of thing that bin Laden wanted us to do; bleed ourselves dry in a futile, costly, seemingly endless war of our own creation.

jrcmi, obviously we’ll never agree on any of this, but I respect your view points.

Thomas G Williams says:
July 3, 2010 at 6:48 pm

Got it… blah blah blah, when in doubt blame Bush. Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong and trying to pass the buck?

When the flotilla incident happened a few months ago… which party and their supporters were quickly seen attacking Israel and defending Hamas?

Moving on…

jrcmi says:
July 3, 2010 at 8:36 pm

Did you bother to READ the wiki entry – or do you have trouble with two-syllable words? Bush received credible warnings from his own people, but was apparently as dense and ignorant as YOU are.

What I am unable to understand is if that’s true, why is it that the left never has any negative words for Clinton? Were foreign intelligence folks unaware of the threat under Clinton… or did he think because he was near the end of the term that he would just pass it off to the next guy? It defies logic.

Now, I’m not trying to blame Clinton for anything he isn’t deserved of. That’s not the point. The point is the lengths to which people on the far left will go to ignore logic and defend Clinton, while attacking Bush. If they were really as upset as they claim to be, they’d be equally upset with him… however they’re not, which suggests their motives (as is everything) is political. The war, terrorism, all that is just an excuse to launch an attack on Bush.

Gees guys… get over it. He won, twice… aren’t you ready to move on?

Hus VERY biggest “failure” was starting two illegal wars and killing thousands of American troops, and perhaps a million innocent civilians in the process.

Has anyone been able to answer the “why was it illegal” question yet? I love the leftwing talking point… but I’d like to see if anyone actually understands it.

Ah yes, and all those dead are Bush’s fault. Not the folks who pulled the trigger… not the terrorists looking to attack Americans… nope, it was Bush’s fault.

Your celebrations (and let’s not lie, it is a celebration… because the more people who die, the worse you can paint Bush) over the deaths involved in Afghanistan and Iraq are what’s really despicable. The only thing sadder, is that by this point, we’re all used to it.

IMPEACHMENT? The pointless, expensive, politically-fueled Whitewater investigation? You won’t let facts get in the way of your opinion, though, will you?

And which of those happened under the Bush Administration? Oh, none. Oops!

The Dems only held the House – but you won’t let facts . . . nevermind.

Wrong.

The 2006 United States midterm elections were held on Tuesday, November 7, 2006. All United States House of Representatives seats and one third of the United States Senate seats were contested in this election, as well as 36 state governorships, many state legislatures, four territorial legislatures and many state and local races. The election resulted in a sweeping victory for the Democratic Party which captured the House of Representatives, the Senate, and a majority of governorships and state legislatures from the Republican Party. Turnout was very high in the election. In some states it was reported it neared levels of turnout normally expected in a presidential election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_general_elections,_2006>

Bush ignored the Congress – and the law – when it suited him . . . and it suited him a LOT.

Which is why he was charged with… oh wait no charges. Just another talking point with nothing to back it up.

They blame them for “cooked” intel. Bush lied. American troops died.

Neat, you apparently get your political information from bumper stickers. How deep.