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Ron Paul In Statistical Tie For Lead In Iowa Poll; Does He Have A Shot?

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With embattled candidate Herman Cain‘s ride atop the polls apparently past its apogee, it looks like this Newt Gingrich thing is really going to happen. Since Gingrich’s moment in the sun figures to have the durability of a nitroglycerin piñata, a new poll of likely Iowa caucus-goers that shows a statistical four-way tie begs the question, “Who’s next, and why can’t it be Ron Paul?”

The Bloomberg poll has Herman Cain at 20 percent, Ron Paul at 19 percent, Mitt Romney at 18 percent, and Newt Gingrich at 17, with a margin of error of 4.4 percent. Currently, Newt Gingrich is getting all the flavor of the moment buzz, but if you doubt his place at the top has the shelf life of day-old sushi on a picnic table, check out the Malachi Crunch assessments by Redstate’s Erick Erickson and MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow.

If that doesn’t do it, Bloomberg’s poll lets some pigeons loose on Gingrich, too. Given a list of things that  48% of likely Iowa caucusgoers responded that “If the candidate has been married three times and had extramarital affairs,” it would cause them to rule out a candidate, exceeded only by “If the candidate has favored a mandate to buy health insurance,” at 58%. Of the 12 possibilities given to rule out a candidate, though, Ron Paul fits exactly none of them.

Paul’s success in this poll, and his possible success in the caucuses, can be attributed to a huge lead in another key stat from this survey. Asked if they “have been contacted by the campaign through email, direct mail, telephone, or by someone coming to your door in the past year or by meeting the candidate in person,” a whopping 67% responded “yes,” more than 20% higher than Romney and Cain, and more than doubling Gingrich’s 29%. Especially in early states, the ground game is king, and Paul is running over his co-frontrunners.

There are many theories as to why the media dismiss Ron Paul, no matter how well he does in straw polls, or how much money he raises, or how he consistently outpolls more buzzworthy candidates. In fairness to the media, most conservatives who aren’t Ron Paul supporters (known as “Ronulans,” among other, less complimentary monikers) fall into two camps: establishment types who roll their eyes at the very mention of his name, and movement conservatives who admire Paul, but view his candidacy as quixotic and fatally flawed by one of several popular Paul motifs (legalizing marijuana, ending the Fed, telling hard foreign policy truths).

The political media is supposed to be immune to this kind of pre-judgment, but the degree to which they ignore Ron Paul has been a running joke since the 2008 campaign. Perhaps it made some sense then, but this year, where the Republican field is like an Oprah Winfrey audience, each of which has a ride atop the polls under their chairs, and as this poll shows, each of whom has had a big, fat, disqualifying flaw, why is Ron Paul still being ignored?

He’s not a crazy birther, he doesn’t think the HPV vaccine causes “mental retardation,” he kills it in debates, he’s been married to the same woman since 1957, he knows who the president of Ubeki-beki-stan-stan is, and pound for polling pound, the guy is a fundraising Godzilla. When Newt Gingrich flames out, there won’t be much of a choice left, since all of the not-Romneys except Ron Paul and Rick Santorum have been used up. Even in Iowa, Santorum can’t even beat the margin of error at this point. Ron Paul has more than earned the right to be taken seriously, and if he’s still polling like this in a few weeks, maybe he will be. Finally.

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  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul In Statistical Tie For Lead In Iowa Poll; Does He Have A Shot?

    No.

  • Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti

    The only way Ron Paul has a shot is if he goes to the doctor to get one. }

  • Shark Hunter

    Lol great headline.  He had a shot before, now he has a bigger one.  Is it really that hard to understand?

  • Peter Lawrence

    I voted for Obama, this time around I’m voting for Ron Paul because he is the most intelligent, honest and honorable candidate.  I doesn’t harass women (Cain), he doesn’t cheat on his wife (Gingrich), he’s not an idiot (Perry), he’s not Romney (Romney).

  • Brad_hudgens

    Voted in 08, gonna vote same on 12.

    Ron Paul.

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul is stompin’ these inconsistent fools.

  • Eddy

    You have to realize that if Ron Paul does not win the nomination, the GOP will not win the presidency. Ron Paul supporters will not vote for another bought and paid for neo-con.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HUU6CEK7ITXRODBH3M34X7RBYA Linda

    Ron Paul not only has a shot he will win the Nomination and the Presidency and Bring these wars of Profit to an end once and for all. Ron Paul 2012 ! Peace, Prosperity, Freedom.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HUU6CEK7ITXRODBH3M34X7RBYA Linda

    Well then I guess you will be surprised when Ron Paul wins. Peace Prosperity Freedom ! Ron Paul 2012

  • Anonymous

    You forgot to add, he doesn’t assassinate American citizens (Obama)
    Your welcome.

  • http://108.80.56.115/theEnd/ fuzzywzhe

    The media will do everything they can to sink him.

    We don’t have a media, we have Pravda and a bunch of brainwashed idiots that think it’s not Pravda.  Americans are simply too stupid or too brainwashed to elect him and honestly, they don’t deserve him as president.

    They deserve the corrupt thieving government they currently have, and will certainly vote to keep.  Our unprincipled dishonest government is simply a reflection of our unprincipled dishonest populace.  Nobody wants to hear the unpleasant truth though, do they?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7RQ3BYT543OCYDUVW4U4NJVM5Y Mary

    Let’s see: in the people’s camp we have Dr. Ron Paul, an honest man with integrity out the wazoo, who has voted to defend the Constitution for more years than most politicians have been buying hair color. Wants to bring home our troops, end undeclared foreign wars, and restore our currency and our Constitution.

    In the corporate establishment camp we have Romney, Cain, Perry, Bachman, and Santorum. They haven’t had a deep thought in years, but they are able to spout soundbites as long as they aren’t challenged to substantiate their words with something that resembles a fact.

    My vote’s for Ron Paul. What’s yours?

  • http://108.80.56.115/theEnd/ fuzzywzhe

    I’m going to vote for the guy with the prettiest hair who has the best slogan!

    I mean Hope and Change, and what a nice speaking voice!  He’s also African American, it’s great we have diversity in our government now.

    I loved George W. Bush too!  Did you know his father was a prezdident before?  I’d like to have a beer with George W. Bush, he’s such a nice regular guy!

    Signed,
    - Every moron in the United States.

  • http://108.80.56.115/theEnd/ fuzzywzhe

    If you vote against Obama you’re voting to close Guantamo, end the Patriot Act, stop warrantless wiretapping, and voting to end the wars.

    Isn’t empty rhetoric enough for you?  I mean, geeze louise, people’s standards are getting unreasonably high.  Next thing you know, they’ll actually be criticizing elected officials when they lie their butt off to get elected instead of defending them to the death simply because they are in their favorite party.

  • http://108.80.56.115/theEnd/ fuzzywzhe

    Ron Paul supporters will vote for another bought and paid for neo-con, if they vote for Obama.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FWEXQN65BB3W5DW236CH5BIBPU Chris

    He may or may not win, it all comes down to votes. If you think he wont win, ask yourself honestly why you think that. Have you bothered to understand why he believes what he does? Education is a wonderful thing, its ashame that many ignorant people have no idea they need it.

    I know one thing, if he does not win and who ever gets into power does more of the same thats been done for the last several years, this country is going down the drain. If you think its bad now, you aint seen nothing yet.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AUUX52MI6TULL3B3UPHAWFSZ3M BobW

    One thing we have to realize, almost EVERY Lobby is against Ron Paul, this is why he doesn’t have much of a chance.  Every president needs to be approved from the lobbyist.

    1) Bank lobby is against him because he wants to END THE FED, which is entirely bank’s profit by borrowing money at 0% and lending out at around 4%.

    2) AIPAC is against him because he wants to pull foreign aid out of Israel, thats pretty much entirely AIPAC’s budget and funding, Israel will be better under Ron Paul but AIPAC won’t be.

    3) Pharmaceutical is against him because he wants to end the drug war, so people can buy drugs freely, that’s pretty much most of the Pharmaceutical drugs being eliminated from the market.

    4) NRA and weapon lobby is against him since he’s pulling troops out, as much as hes supporting 2nd amendment to carry a gun, the profit for those guns comes from selling weapons to the war.

    5) Food Lobby is against him because he’d revamp entire FDA and USDA, making it hell lot easier for meat and other food companies to get sued over contaminated food, those companies are currently lobbying FDA and USDA.

    6) The chinese lobby is against him because he wants to bring more jobs back to america by lowering taxes, this makes very uncomfortable for china since they produce most of our goods

    7) Unions and government employees lobby will be against him because he wants to cut spending, and don’t really give a crap about Union depends on wages since he believes in free market.

  • http://twitter.com/philoec Nora Smith

    For people with a conscience, abortion should be the first and only reason they can vote for Paul. Americans need to be more responsible and educate themselves about the tremendous violence abortion brings to a woman and disgrace to a man, a neighborhood, and society as a whole.
    My vote and of my family will be for Dr. Paul because I know if he respects life, he will respect the liberty of America and with that we, all will have peace and prosperity -God will bless us!!

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul is the only candidate that’s been consistent over the years.  He’s also the only one who’s not a political marionette.

    Ron Paul 2112!

  • http://twitter.com/philoec Nora Smith

    Honestly, there is no other candidate with the caliber of Dr. Paul!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Socrates-Gadfly/100002839062857 Socrates Gadfly

    End the War.
    Restore our liberty.
    Restore our money.
    Cut corporate ties to government.
    Ron Paul 2012.

  • Lulu

    The most principled, consistent, ethical, humane politician and statesman the world has ever seen. Dr Ron Paul is a gift from the founding fathers as the USA loses its moral compass. If we don’t select and elect this humble doctor, economist…then we deserve our fate

  • Anonymous

    The only violence abortion brings to women is from lunatics like you who blow up abortion clinics and murder the doctors that perform them.  It only brings disgrace because people like you love shaming others for their perceived lack of piety, and you love seeing yourself in a position to dictate morality onto society.

  • Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti

    No, he just lets them die if they don’t have insurance.

  • Hushd

    REALLY??? THAT’S THE BEST PICTURE YOU COULD GET?!?!?  WHAT A JOKE!

  • Matthew .

    Ron Paul supporters will vote for Ron Paul, whether or not he gets the nomination. There is no difference between Obama and any of the Republican candidates (Except Ron Paul). So it really doesn’t make much of a difference to us. We will vote for our candidate because he tells the truth, even if it is unpleasant and he has the best interest of our country at heart. So while all you juvenile cry babies are rocking back and forth in the corner with your hands over your ears, screaming “You are Lying!”, I and the rest of the Paul supporters will be doing our best to bring this country back from the brink of destruction by getting a man who knows what he is doing into the office.

  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    Newton Leroy Gingrich 
    Willard ‘Mitt’ Romney 
    Herman ‘Herb’ Cain 
     
    glitter in their eyes 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMw0gjmJkqQ
    what a bad joke

  • Bobert

    “One thing we have to realize, big corporate Lobby is against Ron Paul,
    this is why he doesn’t have much of a chance.  Every president needs to
    be approved from the lobbyist. ”

    Let’s see: in the people’s camp we have Dr. Ron Paul, an honest man with
    integrity (even when integrity is unpopular), who has voted to defend the Constitution for
    more years than most politicians have been buying hair color. Wants to
    bring home our troops, end undeclared foreign wars, and restore our
    currency and our Constitution.

    In the corporate establishment
    camp we have Romney, Cain, Perry, Bachman, and Santorum. They haven’t
    had a deep thought in years, but they are able to spout soundbites as
    long as they aren’t challenged to substantiate their words with
    something that resembles a fact.

    My vote’s for Ron Paul.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Java-McPhearson/100003106242712 Java McPhearson

    It’s not just in Iowa folks,
    On the CBS Nov 12 national realtime poll over 100,000 votes were recorded. The results as of 97,529 votes were 
    Paul 28%,
    Perry 19%,
    Huntsman 13%, Gingrich 13%, Cain 13%,
    Romney 8%,
    Bachmann 3%,
    Santorum 2%.

    While Paul was allowed the fewest questions of any candidate, post debate editorials defined his positions as some of the most credible points made. We owe it to ourselves to understand why Paul’s views on the economy and strong national defense are both important to our future and refreshingly sensible. Listen (youtube) to his answers on any topic and you will find real substance, not political pandering.

    Ron Paul, all message, no massage.

  • Anonymous

    You folks are just know coming on board just to cover your backside….lol
    This is the bottom line.
    I am voting for Dr. Ron Paul and ‘No one’ else

  • Anonymous

    You are spot on. I am voting only for Dr. Paul.
    End of story.

  • Matthew .

    Yes…. Because when a member of an audience yells “Yes”, it means that he is speaking for Dr. Paul. So for instance if someone asked you, if you are an imbecile and I yell out “Yes”, I am speaking for you ;-)   

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul supporters would never vote for Obama but, they won’t vote for a neo-con either.  They will write in Ron Paul unless, he goes 3rd party which I hope he  does if he does not get the nomination.

  • Peelerjoseph0

    Yes, but they won’t be voting for Obama either. Paul has a real chance in Iowa. It’s a caucus state. It should be remembered that in 2008 he polled at 3% in Iowa but garnered 9% of the vote. He did very well in all caucus states. Caucus states are about organization, supporter enthusiasm, and volunteers. Paul is better in those areas than anyone else. I think he’ll win that state.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alan.clifton1 Alan Clifton

    My only vote will be for Ron Paul and no one else. Why, because there isn’t a dimes worth of difference in the rest of the field. I want to live in a free society that is the envy of all other nations. You’ll never get that by bombing the hell out of the rest of the world. People like to use the “legalize pot” moniker to label Ron Paul instead of looking at the greater point of the argument which is in a free society we all have the responsiblity for our own lives and choices. I’m an adult and I should be allowed to guide my own destiny as long as I don’t infringe on yours. Ron Paul 2012

  • mkmn

    you had better hope not you neo-con war-monger!

  • jordan white

    Why is it so hard to believe that people wont do these things if government doesn’t. We’re all compassionate enough to pass the law, but not enough to donate to an non-profit that’s 10x more efficient at delivering services?

  • jordan white

    perfect.

  • Desertgoldman

    yay

  • Anonymous

    Yep, and those are all the reasons I AM voting for Ron Paul.  This country is in big trouble and Ron Paul CAN solve those problems.

  • mkmn

    You have hit the nail on the head. Ron’s constituency will not tolerate another RHINO fraud and are informed enough to know that they are the same thing as having the big O in office, National Suicide!
    Ron Paul 2012! The only candidate on the ballot for me and millions more. 

  • funtowatchyouall!

    LOL!  Love that last one.

  • Ajd2422

    Are you talking about the Dr. Ron Paul that did surgery and provided healthcare for the poor people of his town for decades without accepting money from them or the government?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Delano-Gaston/1051430158 William Delano Gaston

    You have just provided exactly the same amount of logic and facts as all the pundits……ZERO.  So come up with some, or STFU.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LEMRVPLL4WI2N2KBUUGA3UKHFQ Josh

    That is your choice, your responsibility, your freedom.  It will also help competition in the market place.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Delano-Gaston/1051430158 William Delano Gaston

     Less conspiracy theories and witty little jokes, and more facts and logic please.  If you manage that, you will be the first.  Nobody can touch the guy in ethics, foreign policy, American history, and constituional law. 

  • Anonymous

    Nora, while I was in SC at the debate, I met a Baptist Minister who was out on the streets with the other Ron Paul supporters with his Ron Paul Sign preaching to everyone that went by as to why Ron Paul is this countries only hope for the future.  He told us that just baout everyone he knows supports Ron Paul. 

    I think the man upstairs is behind us on this one!

  • Rocknroller1994

    Go Ron!!!! Its you’re time!!! Ron Paul 2012!!!

  • Peelerjoseph0

    Puh-leeze! In the early 60′s about 75% of Americans had insurance. They used it for major medical because they tended to pay the premiums. There wasn’t overutilization. Government wasn’t so heavily involved with mandates, subsidies, etc. so costs weren’t out of control.

    According to historian Matusow (not a libertarian) the poor went to the hospital about 4.1 times per year. The wealthy went about 5.3 times per year–not a great disparity. He points out that the poor lacking insurance didn’t fare so badly due to the willingness of hospitals, doctors, charities, churches to dispense care for free or at reduced costs. Medicare-Medicaid is just a TRANSFER of money from middle-class taxpayers to middle-class health care professionals for care formerly dispensed for free or at reduced cost.

    What’s worse is that Medicare-Medicaid costs prices to soar, which wiped out any alleged benefits for those being subsidized. There wasn’t a problem until government created one.

    Dr. Paul worked for $3 an hour during the early 60′s at a church hospital. No one was ever turned away. When he ran his own practice he and the doctors employed by him never billed Medicare-Medicaid. If that was all a person had he dispensed care for free.

    You don’t have the moral high ground when you advocate force. Dr. Paul has the moral high ground with his actions and his principles. Your ideas are failing.

    You’re not only ignorant, you are a demagogue.

  • freedomforonce

    I am a person who did not used to have insurance.  I was in a really bad wreck, broke my back, had plastic surgery on my nose to put it in the right place again…and guess what.  I DID NOT DIE.  I made arrangements with the hospital and the two doctors, and I made payments for a couple years.  Did it suck?  Damn right it did.  But they reduced my fees by nearly half and were quite good about my making payments, so long as I did not miss one. This ‘people are dying’ crap is CRAP.  Do some research.

  • Anonymous

    …or American citizens’ 16 year old sons.

  • Calvin Lee

    If you’re going to accuse Ron Paul based off of fabricated lies at least try to make it seem reasonable.

    Ron Paul, as a physician treated people for discount or zero cost if they couldn’t afford it, look up the hippocratic oath.

    Oh, and try some self-research, it is liberating and you don’t come off as a turd when you make accusations.

  • Anonymous

    Dr. Paultards are frightening.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Delano-Gaston/1051430158 William Delano Gaston

    Wrong.  Dr. Paul ran a practice for 22 years where he NEVER….REFUSED….A…..SINGLE…..PATIENT, and not only that, he would NOT accept insurance.  Either you had cash, or you didn’t have to pay at all.

    Sometimes people would pay him with things like livestock and produce, or whatever services they could provide.

    Nice try ya kooky conspiracy theorist….now that this mystery is solved for you, go back to pondering wether we landed on the moon or not mmm’k?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josh-Brueggen/15914440 Josh Brueggen

    heh, Ron Paul is a doctor.  I guess he is giving himself a shot…..

  • Derogatispj

    Ron Paul all the way, no questions about it.  Let’s keep this going and hopefully the rest of America will see the light.

    Ron Paul in 2012!

  • Calvin Lee

    I like that picture, it shows Ron Paul is just another man wanting to help the people.  He isn’t groomed like the rest of them, he just talks about an idea and people happen to love that idea.  This is why RP is popular and steadily rising in support.

  • Calvin Lee

    no one else.

    same here.

  • Calvin Lee

    responsibility, apparently  Americans are not supposed to have any.

    Good for you man, you have a right to your body and privacy, why should you be coerced to take care of others?  We should do it out of the kindness of our own heart (charity) rather than be forced to take part in a sham and corrupt healthcare system.

  • Mary in NC

    People who are considered “unelecatable” get elected inspite of the professionals opinions.  Not my favorite example, but what professionals seriously thought Obama would get the nomination before the last primaries in started?  So still haven’t seen a BS excuse why Ron Paul got less than 90 seconds to talk in the last debate…can’t use the excuse that he is low polling and insignificant…Paul winning the nomination and the Presidency would be AWESOME!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/lesterhalfjr Chris Hadrick

    He has definitely gained from Perry and Cains gaffes. If Romney shows up to a speech drunk or something Paul may be the last man standing!

    It’s great how well he is doing. it sends a good message that people want a candidate who sticks to their actual beliefs and doesn’t go through focus groups and so forth. Have a good platform and ask people to elect you on that. what a concept.

  • Calvin Lee

    lol, good one.  

    I love calling other people conspiracy theorists when they try to argue facts with unfounded accusations, the media tries to group all Ron Paul supporters as hippie, pot-smoking, 16 year old conspiracy theorists but they just fail so much.  So does our friend up there that said Ron Paul would let uninsured people die.
    American ignorance, keep being distracted Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LEMRVPLL4WI2N2KBUUGA3UKHFQ Josh

    The POTUS has limited powers.  The one power he absolutely has is over the military.  Ron Paul will bring our men and women home to protect our country.  That is why I am voting for Ron Paul and no one else.

    Also, as an added bonus, all the military spending that goes on to keep the bases supplied will be spent on our soil.

  • rob aurich

    name calling is all the neocon has left.

  • http://twitter.com/ManyArms Timothy Monaghan

    If Paul moves into first, enjoy watching the media propaganda machine go to work on him. Be interesting to see if he can weather the abuse.

  • Anonymous

    He is a doctor Jacka$$

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DXZAYZQDJ3X7CGWE7P3ECHTAQ4 SeamusL

    Ron Paul, when you take out the overt media skewing of polls, is the #1 contender. Look at the straw poll record.

  • LibertyForRonPaul

    I couldn’t of said it better myself.  But, the Federal Reserve needs to end.  Many of our monetary problems stem from them.

    Ron continue your messages and the voters will realize that he is the only candidate that can turn this country around from sinking into the abyss of no return.

  • Joseph

    Yea, but its not the same thing, you simply became excited to finally be coined correctly,………………………. just saying.
    RP2012

  • Matthew .

    Kind of funny how they have no ammo left. And I thought that we all left name calling behind in the 3rd grade.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NA6BTBFATWIXIXOTVZC3X57GHQ Nathan Kirsch

    Wait! did you read the article or just scroll to bottom and say this? cause if it’s the prior your reading comprehension is a bit low.

  • http://108.80.56.115/theEnd/ fuzzywzhe

    The presidential race has been on the level of a elementary schoolyard fight for the last 30 years.

    It’s nice that we finally have an election brought up to the level of adults.  I’m so tired of the childish stupidity of candidates and their supposed supporters.

    Remember when you said anything against Bush II, you were called a cut n run, cowardly traitor terrorist?  Now it’s if you say anything against Obama, you’re a racist moron that hates the poor.

  • no-shoes

    and it is that damned simple. someone with political clout needs to point this out to the rest of the world. ron paul supporters are a lot like ron paul himself. they are serious. they will not vote for the lesser of the available evils.
     whether anyone wants to admit or not, the race is now, without deviation, between ron paul and the obamanation.
     i think the majority of clear thinkers realize this, and will vote for dr. paul

  • Emily R

    Nora, while I can appreciate and respect your moral beliefs (I also do not support abortion), I find it extremely frustrating that you and so many other people would vote for someone based SOLELY on a single MORAL ISSUE. While the issue of abortion is very important, it pales in comparison to the larger and much more serious issues this country is facing right now. Too many people will vote based on party alone, or moral issues alone, and that’s just simply wrong. Make an intelligent choice based on all the facts. However, I AM glad you’re voting for Ron Paul!

  • http://108.80.56.115/theEnd/ fuzzywzhe

    Some of us have seen him weather that abuse for over 4 years.

    What do you think calling him an isolationist is?  That’s propaganda, and it’s false.  The media calls him a Libertarian, constantly asks “will he run as a 3rd party” to try to alienate him from the Republican voters.  The media blatantly misrepresents his views on the drug war, and it frequently claims he wants Iran to have a nuclear bomb.  The media repeated endlessly that he “blamed America first” when he pointed out the CIA overthrow of the Iranian democracy in 1953 had consequences in Operation Ajax. That was the biggest blunder this country has engaged in, at least with regard to the Middle East – it indirectly created the entire Islamic Revolution. If that isn’t a disaster of our foreign policy, what is? The media won’t even touch it.

    The picture used with this article is a classic too. It suggests that there are no supporters for Ron Paul. It’s a constant barrage of outright lies and subtle suggestion.

    This isn’t new, this has been going on since his first run for the presidency.  The media in this country is run by a bunch of unprincipled scumbags and it’s not just Fox and CBS – it’s everybody.  The media is so degraded, and has become such blatant propaganda, that you can get more information about what is going on in this nation by reading Asia Times or watching Russia Today.  That’s pathetic.

    Heck, you can get more information about a story by just skipping the spin article and reading the comments section in 90% of cases.

  • Anonymous

    Someone must have sent an e-mail to post on Mediate for Ron Paul, I never saw so many new names for one story.

  • Paradiggum

    Ron Paul is the one and only presidential candidate who has always been against the banker bailouts.
    Ron Paul is the one and only presidential candidate who does not flip flop on the issues, with a 24-year record in congress to prove it.
    Ron Paul is the one and only presidential candidate who proposes opening up competition to the Federal Reserve Bank monopoly.
    Ron Paul is the one and only experienced presidential candidate who has never voted for an unbalanced budget, and has pledged to never do so.
    Ron Paul is the one and only presidential candidate to volunteer to take the national median salary of $39,000 during the recession, while the rest will take the full $400,000.
    Ron Paul is the one and only presidential candidate who is an experienced war veteran.
    Ron Paul is the one and only presidential candidate who proposes to withdraw from over 700 military bases overseas.
    Ron Paul is the one and only presidential candidate who will pardon people who are convicted of non-violent victimless “crimes”.
    Ron Paul is the one and only experienced presidential candidate who has never once voted for a tax increase, which is 24 years in congress in his case.

  • Anonymous

    When the federal government spends more each year
    than it collects in tax revenues, it has three choices: It can raise
    taxes, print money, or borrow money. While these actions may benefit
    politicians, all three options are bad for average Americans.

    -RON PAUL

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josh-Brueggen/15914440 Josh Brueggen

    on the contrary, abortion, and the “free love” and “casual sex” culture promote a society where women are less respected as creators of life, and their role is cheapened.  There is no greater form of violence than to kill a human being, and no greater violence to a woman than to give her no choice but to kill her own offspring for want of a father who would love care for and respect them in their most vulnerable position.  

  • Chickasaw

    Peace, Liberty, and Freedom through limited government and a free market society !

    Ron Paul 2012 !

  • Anonymous

    RON PAUL 2012, open your eyes and ears people and recognize a modern day Thomas Jefferson, this caliber of politician doesnt come around that often.

  • Paradiggum

    re: entrist79 “Someone must have sent an e-mail to post on Mediate for Ron Paul, I never saw so many new names for one story”
    Its the very top story on Google. I clicked it and landed here! I’ve never heard of mediate.com so its new to me.

  • Resolved123

    Yep! Imagine a guy for the US Constitution…….instead of the Neo Con Israeli agenda. What a nut! Against wars! Wants to end the IRS and give you 100% of your wages without an income tax! WHAT A WACKO! Lets keep following this Nazi script. Yes, more gov’t jobs! More regulations! More secret gov’t! More indoctrination instead of education! Yep! Ron Paul is crazy…………crazy smart!

  • Xtrdouglas

    Why? because you KNOW IT ALL???  Your HUBRIS will never FAIL YOU???   Cant teach an old dog new tricks???   Sorry—–   you stunning answer lack substance and is a purely emotional response that seems to be waining due to the Rebuking of preprograming from the MASS MANIPULATION of MASS MEDIA…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UING2KDCEZ45FUXK73W7CNONOE LibertyLover

    The Doctor will Free You Now

  • no-shoes

    if you look up the definition of demagogue, you will find seriously conflicting definitions.
    i hate the word, and heres why:
    Definition of DEMAGOGUE
    1
    : a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power 2: a leader championing the cause of the common peopleso ron paul is a demagogue, literally speaking, but please choose a new word to use.how about, “President Paul”?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-P-Ivy/1570621089 Michael P. Ivy

    “If Romney shows up to a speech drunk or something Paul may be the last man standing!”  That’s funny because……you….never…know.  RP 2012 

  • Anonymous

    Another example of America’s failing public education system.

  • http://www.timthemechanic.com/ Timthemechanic

    I like the way you put that. Mind if I use it for my signature on email?

  • Anonymous

    I disagree.

  • Anonymous

    Did Cain think of that stupid for you or did he just sit there scratching his head for a minute trying to remember what a joke is?

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul has a shot as long as everyone who wants to vote for him does so, without regard for whether or not he has a shot.

  • Ibondguy

    Is this suppose to be a serious article?

  • Lord Voltara The Great

    There’s another factor at work here which few people are mentioning out loud. The propensity of Paul supporters to actually turn out and vote. With likely 20% voter participation in the primaries, if Paul supporters turnout at only a 25% higher rate……… LANDSLIDE!

  • Sabre5618

    You can’t make a statement like that without backing it up with some facts.  What do you got Kahlid?

  • Sabre5618

    If he doesn’t get the nomination, I am writing him in.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I4IR3XFQJWFI5TDD5HDIZHKF2M ToughUSA

    This is a good day for Paul supporters. Now we need to remind New Hampshire that Flip Flop Mitt created Obamacare, backed the bailouts and is in bed with bank & wall street money. Ron Paul should do well there also. The internet, campaigning and donating is the only way to destroy the media. Looks like it’s working. Ron Paul 2012 !!!! IOWA “You Rock”

  • Anonymous

    If Ron Paul isn’t the Official GOP Nominee and doesn’t run 3rd Party I will write him in before I vote for Obama…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I4IR3XFQJWFI5TDD5HDIZHKF2M ToughUSA

    This is a good day for Paul supporters. Now we need to remind New Hampshire that Flip Flop Mitt created Obamacare, backed the bailouts and is in bed with bank & wall street money. Ron Paul should do well there also. The internet, campaigning and donating is the only way to destroy the media. Looks like it’s working. Ron Paul 2012 !!!! IOWA “You Rock”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I4IR3XFQJWFI5TDD5HDIZHKF2M ToughUSA

    Ron Paul 2012 !!!!

  • Anonymous

    Was that supposed to be a serious comment?

  • Anonymous

    There was no email, what a joke. You will find that the overwhelming majority of Paul supporters are extremely informed and notice when articles are being posted about the candidate that they endorse.

  • Johnnycocca

    Not true: he is one. And he has given himself a shot by being the best defender of Personal Liberty, Peace, Prosperity, and the Constitution!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FSPIVAFYI672OH5NOKVRTEZA4U MadCharles

    If he’s the candidate he’ll win leaving the democrata & rinos whining all the way home

  • Anonymous

    Really nice article! And a great question: “Who’s next, and why can’t it be Ron Paul?”

  • Anonymous

    Me too!
    He’s the only candidate worth of my vote.

  • Libertywins

    If Ron Paul doesn’t get nominated, he’s so going independent.  If not, write him in!

  • Anonymous

    And less we forget, there are a lot of anti-war Democrats who are disgusted with Obama who will be voting for the good doctor, and they are NOT counted in these polls…

    If you are an anti-war Democrat, see this:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/blue-republican_b_886650.html

  • Vet4RonPaul

    I’m a military veteran and I’m all-in for Ron Paul because he is pro-freedom, pro-peace and anti-bailouts.  He is what we really need to connect our great nation with her roots.  It would be an honor to have him as our Commander-In-Chief.

  • Anonymous

    The key part of that is that Ron Paul did tthose things. There are some really good people in this country that do the right thing. There are also some really self centered people that don’t. What happens when you need medical care, have no insurance, and don’t happen to live near one of the moral doctors?
    I’m not anti Ron Paul, he’s the only republican I would consider voting for, but I would need to hear something more substantial than this on healthcare.

  • I Love the USA

    I third this position…no one else! RON PAUL 2012

  • USA

    Can’t wait for the polls to open so the “war mongers” see what a true “shock and awe” campaign really is!
    Ron Paul by a landslide!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/william.k.fry Kevin Fry

    The definition is “a leader championing the cause of the common peoples in ancient times.” Love how you left out the context to dicredit someone using the term in the actual modern day meaning. Also Dr. Paul’s been “championing” the common people with the same message since at least 1988 when he first ran for president. I love how the Paul supporters actually have  valid arguments and statements to make, and the detractors just spew regurgitated talking points copied and pasted from Fox News.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VWFJCDGU5YBBEM57XHOQUM24KY Andrew Garvin

    he is a doctor, and more qualified than all of them. you know what you are getting, and i like that

  • Anonymous

    You should pat yourself on the back for claiming how informed you are. Good Job,

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VWFJCDGU5YBBEM57XHOQUM24KY Andrew Garvin

    ron paul supporters will vote 3rd party if ron does not win because they have morals

  • http://www.timthemechanic.com/ Timthemechanic

    What planet are you from? What gives you the idea that someone will die without health insurance?  I don’t have health insurance and I’m not afraid of dying. Should I be expected to pay for your health insurance? Are you an American Citizen? Pay your own health insurance – this is not a socialist regime.

  • Earthroamer321

    Great article. Great writing. I laughed out loud three times. That’s three times more than I usually laugh reading political articles. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VWFJCDGU5YBBEM57XHOQUM24KY Andrew Garvin

    both of my parents are republican physicians, no one is ever turned away and left for dead. there is always a way. in fact the unpaid bills are payed with tax dollars, therefore we already have socialized medicine. who would of thought…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VWFJCDGU5YBBEM57XHOQUM24KY Andrew Garvin

    Brain Flakes – the hospital doesn’t kick you to the curb to die, no one is ever turned away. My parents are physicians and have had this conversation many times. it winds up coming out of tax dollars. didnt know that did you.

  • liberty4all

    Socrates, If you move “Cut corporate ties to government.” up one line and put restore our money below it the text resembles a horizontal middle finger. Though as it is it looks like a #1 gesture, either way
    GO RON PAUL!!! ALL THE WAY TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!!

  • Daniel Beaulieu

    Ron Paul or No One!

    -

    He’s the only HONEST man in politics… whether you agree with everything he says or not, at least you’d have piece of mind that he’ll keep his words. He wont abuse his power, he wont take bribes, he wont succumb to corruption… most of all he will FIX THE ECONOMY by 2016. No one else offers this.

  • Daniel Beaulieu

    If government hadn’t interfered with medicine, hospital bills would be cheaper btw

  • Daniel Beaulieu

    I found this via google search you clown. I regularly search the front runners… well except for mittens.

    Ron Paul 2012

  • Daniel Beaulieu

    Regarding centrist79′s post…. *pats freedom thinker on the back*

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2KD3KYWFFQISMOCK762F6EHZTY david mowers

    After the CNBC debate there were 28 online polls (open to anyone mind you) asking,

    “Who won the debate?”

    Ron Paul won 26 of them. 50% were by landslide margins. His message resonates across parties.

    CASE CLOSED.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2KD3KYWFFQISMOCK762F6EHZTY david mowers

    “Remember, Remember the 6th of November. The bail out, treason, and plot. I know of no
    reason why the bail out treason should ever be forgot!”

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  • Anonymous

    Substance trumps slyle and slogans.
    As you say, Tommy, FINALLY!

  • Anonymous

    Since front runners change by the minute, you must spend a lot of time on google.

  • GM Goat

    Time for the children to become adults.  What Dr. Paul specifies are the rolls of our Federal Government.  Your state and local governments will be able to run your lives, if you so choose.  Live your life free from Tyrany.  A liberal or conservative lifestyle is your choice.  Do not force others outside of your households to live your way.  Do not make others pay for your mistakes and poor choices.  In other words, quit running to Daddy to bail you out; when you screw up.

  • Roger_Koon

    He does have a shot, and as the only incorruptible, qualified adult in the race, let’s be glad and rejoice, etc…

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for the article. I am a Ron Paul supporter and was in 2008.  Plan to write his name is as well if not elected as GOP.  The fact that first Bachman, then Perry, next Cain, and now Newt have all had their moment of media push, I too am wondering if they are saving best for last (Ron Paul).  The majority of the people I work with (City Government) consider themselves republican, and are opposed to Obama, and plan to vote GOP but they are not sure who at this point.  One thing is for sure: Ron Paul’s supporters aren’t going anywhere and his base is growing everyday.  I hear republican and democrat points of view while at work on what it would take to improve the economy and the government.  What I find interesting is most of the views expressed on improving the federal government are points of view Ron Paul has expressed in his books “End the Fed, Liberty Defined, and The Foreign Policy of Freedom” which echo, on a brief scale, his debate performances.  If Ron Paul is given more air time to express the views in which he understands at fundamental levels, I am convinced America and the world would fall in love with this guy.  

    “…As much as I defend the freedoms of everyone, those freedoms should be limited in the following sense: People should not be able to vote to take away the rights of others. And yet this is what the slogan democracy has come to mean domestically. It does not mean that the people prevail over the government; it means that the government prevails over the people by claiming the blessing of mass opinion. This form of government has no limit. Tyranny is not ruled out. Nothing is ruled out….” – Ron Paul, Liberty Defined –  Page 40

    The System At Work = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LDFdCtDM54

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kenneth-Karolchik-Griffin/1239196146 Kenneth Karolchik-Griffin

    yes

  • Audrey

    I’m one of those apathetic voters that was cured by Dr. Paul. What a wonderful, intelligent, needed message this man has! My only regret is not hearing it back in ’08. I am currently reading Liberty Defined, and what an eye-opener it is!

  • Drew Dennis

    Stop trolling on comment threads and do something with your life.

  • Anonymous

    Or the other way around. Please explain how government involvement increased hospital bills.

  • Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti

    Good for you.  Ron Paul’s ’08 campaign manager Kent Snyder died two weeks after Ron Paul withdrew from the race because Ron Paul did not provide health insurance to those who believed he could lead this country and worked for him.   Kent Snyder was only 49, and after dying from pnuemonia left a more than $300,000 hospital bill.  His friends and campaign associates held a fundraiser to pay his debt but only raised about $24,000.  Ron Paul did not attend.
    I however, have had private health insurance for more than 20 years and pay what amounts to tax of one to two thousand per year in additional premiums for those who do not have insurance and don’t pay their bills.  You’re welcome.

  • LibertyForRonPaul

    Well since media and the supposed unbiased polls say that Gingrich is soaring in the polls take a look at Gingrich’s involvement with Freddie Mac.  We go from Bachmann, to Perry, to Cain, and now Gingrich as the frontrunner.  But, Gingrich as the rest will fall also,  Ron Paul remains standing and he will prevail.

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-11-15/gingrich-said-to-be-paid-by-freddie-mac-to-court-republicans.html

  • Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti

    Stick to mechanics Timmy, you’re way over your head in here.

  • Anonymous

    Might want to add a big fat S on the end of War and make it End the Wars.
    Then it look pretty much the way it should. :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_42KTZIH34XIJ2OU5OWWMGF3AWU julien alien

     Sorry to blow your bubble,boy,but that was on tape and is on youtube.Ron said no,but if you want to stand in a soup line,by all means go ahead.

  • Anonymous

    Given that the most attention always goes to the faults of any candidate, Ron Paul is doing well.
    Not being called out for gaffs and scandals large or small means less press coverage, and R Paul isn’t making any gaffs or caught up in any scandals.
    Meanwhile, Ron Paul’s message remains clear, credible, and is well known to those of us who follow these things.
    In fact, I would hazard a guess that more people can tell you exactly what Ron Paul stands for than can tell you what ANY other candidate, including Obama as the Democrat, stands for.
    Ron Paul does not need more press coverage to get votes when it counts.

  • LibertyForRonPaul

    Well said, I voted for Obama last time also.  I will never again fall for the great speaker who says many things to get the votes and he does exactly the opposite once in office.  Sounds like Gingrich doesn’t it?

    Ron Paul has a unwavering record of consistency for thirty years. With the cure for this ailing economy.

  • RP4prez

    Ron Paul IS a doctor, ding dong!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_42KTZIH34XIJ2OU5OWWMGF3AWU julien alien

    I owe 18 thousand in medical bills for two broken ankles and 8 stitches.Total time it took the doc to fix me up,1 hour.I think the system they devised is that they charge so much to fix you that they can not possibly lose money if you do not pay.That system is working.Look at what the Doctors are driving for an indicator.

  • Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti

    Kent Snyder, Ron Paul’s ’08 campaign manager died two weeks after Ron Paul withdrew from the race.  Snyder was only 49 and died of a completely curable disease, pneumonia.  Despite raising tens of millions for Paul’s campaign, Ron Paul allowed his friend and campaign manager to die for lack of insurance.  Speaking of ignorance….yours is showing.  Paul’s supporters are the most reprehensible people on this site and you’re chief among them.

  • Mommytoalittleman

    I will not vote for another candidate…If Ron Paul doesn’t make it, I’m writing him in. I re-registered Republican because I believe in this fine man. I won’t settle for less. I won’t be blind to what’s taking place in front of our eyes. Republican or Democrat, they are all the same. RP is the only true true patriot. Research him and then tell me you can’t agree, his record speaks for itself.

  • LibertyForRonPaul

    Great Video.

    GO RON PAUL!!!

  • Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti

    You’re right, when a loaf of bread was .39 cents and a gallon of milk was .79 cents Ron Paul was doing those things.  He has long since lost his moral compass and most of his marbles.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_42KTZIH34XIJ2OU5OWWMGF3AWU julien alien

     Pretty good there Confucious,but as I look at the difference between what is getting spit into this world compared to what my fathers generation came out like,they are not even in the same bracket to be called human beings,not to mention that the world is over populated.In short,stupid people on welfare have stupid babies(and babies born addicted to drugs).None of our differences in opinion matter with Ron Paul though.By following the Constitution of the U.S.A. he would leave such decisions not ratified as being controlled by Congress to the States.

  • http://twitter.com/delascasas2011 delascasas2011

    Me too! It’s time to take back our country and our liberty.

  • Calvin Lee

    Just as I thought, you’re just parroting crap you heard from someone else, in typical parrot-drone fashion.

    Wow, where were you months ago when your claim was debunked?  Snyder and Paul were GREAT friends, Paul donated and helped raise money to support his friend and get his medical bills paid, as a friend should.  Kent tried to get insurance but was was rejected by the insurance companies because he was too sick.  What about his $300,000 bill? are you going to say its left to his mother to pay like the news said?  Do you not know the law that states that debt is not transferable to next of kin?  

    Think for yourself, like I said before, its liberating.  You’re welcome.

  • http://twitter.com/delascasas2011 delascasas2011

    I agree!

  • Calvin Lee

    What, do you expect one man to battle America’s corrrupt financial institution, military industrial complex and government while providing free medical care?

    Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti, you want to make unfounded accusations, go for it but at least TRY not to sound like a complete moron.

  • Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti

    And you sir have an intimate knowledge of ignorance.  What Ron Paul did fifty years ago has no bearing on today.  Hell, he might have walked twenty miles to school, uphill, backwards, naked, with a goat strapped to his head in a snow storm but the only thing that matters is what he’d do as leader of this country.  And the majority of Americans don’t want a President who’ll say, “that’s your problem, not mine.”
    Americans want a President who has answers not someone who only invites questions and be the equivalent of a libertarian Jimmy Carter.

  • Calvin Lee

    you’ve not once successfully argued a rebuttle to your unfounded and ignorant accusations, seems like you’re the only one in here in way over your head.  

    Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti, I pity you =/

  • Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti

    That was fifty years ago, the medical cost curve is considerably higher today and Ron Paul could not possibly do today what used to be commonplace in America a half century ago.

  • Marshotripps

    And since he is a doctor, this won’t be a problem at all.

  • http://twitter.com/delascasas2011 delascasas2011

    The biggest problem with Gingrich is Gingrich.  Secondly, Gingrich would probably not be able to beat Mr. Obama.  Hell, the Republicans would be handing Obama the presidency if they ran with Gingrich. I feel that the only Republican candidate that can beat Obama is Ron Paul.  I think Ron Paul has the best chance to capture the Reagan Democrats and the independents. I really feel that in a national election, Ron Paul could win big just like Reagan did back in the 80’s.

  • bl_78

    Kahlid Dr. Paul monlighted as young man for 3$ an hour. He worked shifts at a hospice for below minimum wage servicing people, who never paid a cent. He was paid that 3$ an hour by the Church, since it was hospice. Medicine use to be so cheap back then, that churches, or farms like the one I camefrom stocked human medicine for doctors because te free market made it more abundant then it isnow.  I grew up on a farm and I have never seen a doctor visit it once ever in my lifetime, yet my grandmother remember when there weas no govermnt in healthcare, that her paents always had antibitotics or penacilin who were dirt poor, but medicne was afforadble for the dirt poor even then.
    .
    They kept much more then penacilin but as medical costs increased since the 60s they were priced out of the market. As all goverment intervnton caused over th last many of years in healthcare was the elimination of all private healthcare poviders like the Farm, I grew up on, and the goverment has made it illlegal for  Ron Paul or Any doctor, to provide medical services for below minimum wage. If a doctor hoose to work for 1 $ an hour to 5 dollars an hour to cover his tim, mayb he has a famil a little bit helps. Its funny how Ron Paul if he grew up today, would be unableto help evryone he has, he went to korea for godsakes as medic.
    .
    Ron Paul does not think it is right that doctors receive a lifestyle, or teachers that isnt reflective of the their merit . He know the doctor of toay get paid, requiring test to protect himself rom liability, to always have a nurse to ensure there i no sexual harrasment. Women doctor forced to do the same thing to protect themselves from frivalious lawsuits. Then the government telling doctor every little rule to treat a medicare paptent or a non-medicare patient.
    .
    You know costmentic surgery whic is no joke, people die if the surgeon was bad. Everything used in costmetic surgery is falling in price. Today is cheaper to gey cosmetic sugery done then it was last year or years before. quality has improved, its safer then when it first started,  and it is NOT covered by any insurance private or by mandate through goverment, low and behold I can afford toget a nose job, but cannot afford a caste which is covered by insurance,and mandated by 23 states to be insured.

  • Electrictoothsyndrome

    I agree with this article. After Conservatives suddenly wake up from their media-induced stupor and remember “oh yeah, Newt Gingrich isn’t a conservative at all, is he?”

    There is no one left who didn’t support TARP, work for the Federal Reserve, or sign a mandatory healthcare law in his State.

    This primary race is in the bag for Ron Paul. Everyone else peaked way too early.

  • Userlevel Six

    Funny.  Do you realize that a major part of Ron Paul’s message is that the reason bread & milk cost 3 and 4 times as much is due to purposeful inflation of the dollar at the hands of the FED?  That removing sound money from our system altogether despite what is written in our Constitution is destroying our economy?  That together, FED government interference, unnecessary levels of bureaucracy, and government in collusion with business, particularly military contracting businesses, are at the root of much of our economic problems?  (That pretty much sums up the economic policy.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sammy-Garfunk/100001797617434 Sammy Garfunk

    The person in the lead, is the guy who got the most individual donors in the third quarter!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CO5XDAD4PDXC5VHGDVXVFV63SA Skull Bone

    Crazy right?!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CO5XDAD4PDXC5VHGDVXVFV63SA Skull Bone

    Ha no Ron Paul lets We The People to decide if they should have their own health insurance.  You’re late to the show… a LOT of Ron Paul supporters have already debunked your demagoguery. 

  • Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti

    No Cal, in reply to your above response, I’m not talking about transferring/leaving debt to family.  I’m saying that by leaving hospital/medical that debt behind, it has to be paid by someone and that someone is me and the rest of Americans who have private insurance.  We pay an additional one to two thousand in annual premiums to private insurers who on average pay higher prices to medical providers to compensate them for those who do not pay. 
    In addition to my monthly premium of over $900 there is a $1,500 deductible and a $5,000 dollar stop loss before the insurance company picks up at a hundred percent.  And if I need prescriptions I must find the best price I can pay in full than submit receipts to the insurer who reimburses me only 80 cents on the dollar what the meds cost.   I am, for all intents and purposes, self insured but, I have insurance because I don’t want to loose my house. 
    By making your deal with the hospital, a portion of you bill was paid by medicade and the balance by insurers of private citizens like me.  So, You’re Welcome.  Get it?

  • Bill Rice, Jr.

    Great point – People can tell you what Ron Paul stands for. What hurts Paul more than anything is that most establishment Republicans can’t stand his “foreign policy.” Ron Paul’s foreign policy is that we shouldn’t be in Iraq or Afghanistan. This was his view a decade ago. Of course he’s right as any thinking and honest person sees. Being right for so long on such an important policy decision (when so many others were wrong) should count for something in a presidential campaign. One of the best reasons to vote for Paul – he was right on such huge national issues – is actually the reason so many people will not vote for him. This reality is more than a bit sad. 

    I enjoyed and apppreciate this column.

  • Anonymous

    Here is the last debate in short form:

    Romney: We should attack Iran
    Gingrich: We should attack Iran secretly without telling anyone.
    Perry: We should attack 3 countries, Iran, Syria, and … I forgot the other country.
    Cain: We should attack China before they get nuclear technology,
    Bachman:  They don’t call me batshit crazy for nothing.  We should attack every country that starts with an “I”.
    Ron Paul:  We should listen to the US Constitution and have a strong military for DEFENSIVE purposes only.

  • ese

    Ron Paul was a name I only heard here and there during the last presidential election. At the time, I made an indifferent vote for McCain as president. I didn’t really see too much difference in the candidates. Now America has even more problems and I’m glad I didn’t vote for Obama but who knows how much better McCain would’ve been. In any case, I have never heard of a politician so honest and principled as Ron Paul. He has great ideas and is sharp as a tack.

  • PatriotessDame

    President Ron Paul, 2012!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CO5XDAD4PDXC5VHGDVXVFV63SA Skull Bone

    @Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti: Kent Snyder’s insurance was too expensive for the campaign because Kent had a pre-existing condition.  Skyrocketing costs with little effective care is usually the case when Health Insurance is pimped by gov’t.  The system is broken.

    The best system would be to have a free market of health insurance.  This would just like getting the best service for your money.  If you didnt like the health care provider you would just switch.  This would make prices drop and quality go up because it would closer to a perfect competitiveness unlike the present system.  The patient would have the purchasing power.Link:http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/health-care/

  • http://www.facebook.com/bjorn.flanagan Bjorn Flanagan

    Increased hospital bills are due to licensing and the FDA, by forcing a medical license to practice medicine it forces doctors to follow regulations that are imposed predominantly by the FDA. Use of medicine outside of the FDA will leave a doctor without a license. This regulation of medicine has allowed a pharmaceutical monopolization where pricing is inflated which increases the price of services and insurance.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CO5XDAD4PDXC5VHGDVXVFV63SA Skull Bone

    Moral Compass??  Its immoral and unconstitutional to make some one buy a service.  Ron Paul’s free market health care would provide the best price for the best service.  The horrible health care plans/companies would be naturally eliminated by the lack of consumer demand.

    Ron Paul’s moral compass is grand; its to not to overreach but its up to We The People to make the best decisions for themselves.

  • Sganet

    Ron Paul 2012!!!

  • jon in san jose

    NeoCon and war-monger is redundant.  Ron Paul is neither. 
    Herman Cain wants to bring back Kissinger, who managed an extra 4 years of Vietnam.
    Romney is so conservative that he decided to give Massachusetts a taste of Obamacare: mandatory health care no matter how healthy you are. 

  • Sganet

    We will never vote for Obama or anyone BUT Ron Paul. 90%+ of Ron Paul supporters are set on this, Ron Paul or Don’t count our votes. We will write him in even if he’s not on the ballot. So you can support Ron Paul now, or expect to lose the race.

  • Anonymous

    Total conspiracy theory.
    The FDA does not license doctors.
    States license doctors.
    You know nothing and therefore invent everything.

  • jon in san jose

    He has said that if a comatose patient appears in a hospital any number of charitable organizations or family can pay for his care, and ANY hospital can send him a bill afterward. Obamacare makes NO SUCH PROMISES.  The Death Panels may decide arbitrarily he can’t be save, so why bother?

  • jon in san jose

    A man who shows compassion and performs charitable acts AND serves in the military is very unlikely to be off his rocker.  Did you abandon YOUR morality when you learned the value of money?

  • Great Big Truth

    Great…! Thank you…

  • jon in san jose

    If you want the services of a charity, don’t go looking to govt.  The contributors to govt do so to get GOVT services.  You want free or cheap health care, give to a charity or church.  Duh.

  • http://twitter.com/fxtradingzone FXTechnique

    “That was fifty years ago, the medical cost curve is considerably higher
    today…”

    And why do you think that is?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MGCQACIXP7X47CJ4UEPC665P7E Sam

    I don’t see how this is relevant. If we allow the free market to stock the hospitals with what they need without being taxed and regulated to death then the industries will find ways to make the equipment cheaper. Hell, i’m a physicist and if you were to give me a couple years i could make an MRI machine (quite easily) that would be easier to build and cheaper to build to bring prices down. BUT right now mandates and lobbyist have their people flocked around pushing forcing the hospitals to favor the manufacturing companies they get their money from through mandates and regulations. In a free market the hospitals and the need for cheaper medicine will cause competition for this and prices will go down. Our issue here is a Keynesian attitude that “because I specifically don’t know how to do it then no one else probably does so the government should control it.” though the people who decide this are in no way qualified to make these decision and don’t even do the proper research. If half of the people in D.C. would do their job and read bills, ignore lobbyist and support a free market then you would see many more smaller businesses springing up to supply these hospitals with cheaper ways for equal health care, and if they don’t continue to supply good quality per capita then the hospitals will find someone to do it.
    Though our issue here is lobbyists, mandates and regulations being fueled by ill-informed spending by the federal reserve. Quite honestly what the government should do is nothing other than protect our rights and freedoms. Why is it ok for the government to have monopolies in energy and why is it ok for them to pass mandates to control private businesses who have more thorough investigations into what needs to be done. Why do we have to follow the government’s laws when they don’t themselves?

    All i am saying is if we give the people the opportunity to create business without restriction (in a free market) over all we would see this country flourish, given that the government does it’s job and protects everyones liberties.

  • LFG

    Author: Tommy Christopher- praise be unto you! It’s been rare to see articles that would qualify as truly journalistic in recent times. Journalism should be marked by thoughtful, though provoking, objectively fact based reporting- and in the propaganda paradigm we live in, this article rises above like a journalistic phoenix. I thank you. Oh yeah and- Ron Paul or bust! :)

  • jon in san jose

    Maybe Dr. Paul COULD pay for the medical care of a few indigent patients (or those without medical insurance) IF HE ACCEPTED THE FULL CONGRESSIONAL PAY that every OTHER representative accepts.  Instead, he returns the excess to the US Treasury!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Brooks/100001544158898 Michael Brooks

    there is no other candidate running for president that I would FIGHT, KILL or DIE at the order of then Ron Paul, and there is no other candidate running for president is less likely to ask that of me then Ron Paul.

    That is why his supports are are so connected to this man. We trust him and have good reason to.

    Ron Paul 2012

  • Gerald Whitman Wetmore II

    i hope that registered ron paul supporters understand that if they have been registered as an 

    “independent” their vote will not be counted during primaries and will be forgotten un-pronounced. This is why ron paul may consider running as an independent. I dont know how it is in other places of the country, but here in rhode island you claim your “Political Status” when signing for your license at age 18. (This is also when you submit to a “military draft if need be) Most people in the 18-26 age bracket reject being Republican or Democrat and enlist themselves Independent. This is a very strong, and large group in America and their votes will be pivotal. In this world of worlds, let’s all try to reject “Contemporary Zombie-ism” and start standing for something that isn’t a hallucinatory delusion set before us by the way “people are running the show” now….
    RON PAUL 2012

  • Gerald Whitman Wetmore II

    i hope that registered ron paul supporters understand that if they have been registered as an 

    “independent” their vote will not be counted during primaries and will be forgotten un-pronounced. This is why ron paul may consider running as an independent. I dont know how it is in other places of the country, but here in rhode island you claim your “Political Status” when signing for your license at age 18. (This is also when you submit to a “military draft if need be) Most people in the 18-26 age bracket reject being Republican or Democrat and enlist themselves Independent. This is a very strong, and large group in America and their votes will be pivotal. In this world of worlds, let’s all try to reject “Contemporary Zombie-ism” and start standing for something that isn’t a hallucinatory delusion set before us by the way “people are running the show” now….
    RON PAUL 2012

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MWH7XK52TGTDEOUNENEKWUTXHA Bird

    Really? he would let them die if they don’t have insurance? 

    Lets dissect that statement…

    1. Look at how Wolf Blitzer ask that question… he said the man was very healthy and said he doesn’t need to spend money on a major medical plan. So in my honest opinion, that man is a moron and ultimately deserves what he ask indirectly asked for by removing his major medical plan.

    2. Obama along with other politicians are the reason Healthcare/Insurance is un-affordable. They cater to the Healthcare/Insurance special interest and are part of the reason men, like the one Wolf Blitzer asked Paul about, opt out of insurance. 3. That person will always get care… I just had a community member have a young daughter have a brain tumor removed. She could not afford the bills even with Health Insurance (Cause of Politicians), but she reached out to members of the community and non-profit organizations. The community had a event for here, a couple of non-profit companies reached out, and not only payed her bills, but gave her money towards college scholarship…. this is just one minor example…4. You need to study…. cause your statements sound like a sheeps, BAHH BAHH…..

  • http://twitter.com/Kimberly171 Kimberly Thompson

    Several ways. 

    1) The money that the government pushes into the health care field, through medicare, medicaid, etc, floods the field and inspires an artificial bubble (similar to what happened with the housing market, and the government’s incentives for mortgage lenders to issue sub-prime loans). When more money is available, prices rise. It’s a pretty widely accepted, empirically-evidenced theory. Thus prices rise as a direct result of throwing money into the system.

    2) When the government makes regulations and the doctors have to cover their butts on every technicality, they wind up running every test possible, just to ensure that they didn’t miss, say, a hangnail or something. This also runs up the cost of health care, because the tests are already expensive (see reason #1) and you’re doing a lot of them. 

    3) When people are on medicare, the actual cost of health care isn’t really an issue. The government is paying, so…sure, take that extra test. Go to the emergency room for a mild fever. Take stupid risks because you know that you don’t have to pay the consequences. It’s ‘free’, after all. Only it isn’t. 

    4) Increased regulations, paperwork, headaches, lead to a decrease in personal fulfillment for anyone. As more and more government involvement strangles the enjoyment from the medical profession, fewer and fewer people will choose it, and those in it will retire at an earlier age. A decrease in the supply of doctors means an increase in demand per remaining doctor, thereby driving the price up yet again. Not only that, but the doctors left will be overworked, less connected to their patients, and more focused on paperwork, thus a poorer quality of health care provider.

    5) Related to #4….a decrease in the number of doctors available will necessitate a longer waiting period for many issues. This longer waiting period could quite possible make an easily treatable condition degenerate over time into a more costly, and possibly more life-threatening one. So not only is it more costly financially, it’s more costly to the patient’s health.

    Need more, or is that enough?

  • http://profiles.google.com/rosco1776 Russell Snow

    If America has smartened up any from 2008 then he will be the next president! He has said he will save trillions overseas to take care of our own first! Yes he would like to phase out all non constitutional entitlements but he also said he wouldn’t cut anybody off either. it will be phased out and or voluntary as it was supposed to be from the beginning! The health care industry knows they can screw the government insurance programs by overcharging like they do with the school loans, military and everything else the government touches. Come on people, you only have one more chance, look at what’s going on around you and in the world! NONE of the other candidates even come close!

    Ron Paul 2012 or BU$T !!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3UBPY3GMNKDBNHCCER3SR753MM useyerhead

    I will write him in.  There is no other ‘choice’.

  • Anonymous

    HEY TOMMY CHRISTOPHER!!! Why are you using words like ‘SHOT’?  Didn’t hear your Messiah when he told you to STOP using militaristic language?  Isn’t one representative shot in the brain enough for you?  Pick your words better and we won’t have to have these little talks.  Get it?  Got it?  GOOD!

  • Anonymous

    He’s got my vote.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3UBPY3GMNKDBNHCCER3SR753MM useyerhead

    The message is:  you want some web traffic, then write a story on Ron Paul.
    RP supporters are passionate INDIVIDUALS- we are directed by OURSELVES.
    Get a clue- Ron Paul is for real!

  • Jesteele1948

    The unpaid medical bills are paid by both insurance companies AND people who pay their bills.  Why should someone not signed up to do either pay the bills of strangers. 
    For Ron Paul’s official reply, see
    http://www.dailypaul.com/178830/personal-statement-on-kent-snyders-death

    And read all of it.

  • jon in san jose

    Mr. Snyder did not ask for his bills to be paid. Dr. Paul did not know of his medical bills or his lack of insurance. 
    See Dr. Paul’s official reply:
    http://www.dailypaul.com/178830/personal-statement-on-kent-snyders-death

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CJOU47K7AQFAZ5W7NHLZIALU64 angry cat

    I’m sick of these wars!  We cannot survive as a country if we keep things the way they are.  This is the sole reason I’m supporting Ron Paul.  

  • Anonymous

    False again. Clearly you have thought about it, but you have invented the reasons.
    Ask any doctor or hospital or drug company.
    The government refuses to pay inflated prices, and some doctors refuse to take on medicare and medicaid patients because the government pays far less, not more than others.
    The need for medical care is NOT a BUBBLE. It is real. 
    Doctors do not fear government regulations. Ask any Republican. They all say it is the trial lawyers who sue doctors for malpractice and win millions when they do win. 
    The federal government does not license doctors, create malpractice laws, or try malpractice cases. The federal government does not in any way interfere with doctors. That is ALL done by the states and by boards of other doctors. States and private medical associations monitor doctors and their practices.

  • Gilder_phaylon

    Kent died from complications, the hospital where he stayed did everything they could to keep him alive thus the high medical bill. Some organisms that cause pneumonia are so virulent that they overwhelm
    the defense mechanisms, even in otherwise healthy people.Sure you payed an extremely small part of that un-payed bill, However the reason why the bill was so large in the first place stems from government involvement in medicine. Doctors will treat anyone that walks through the door to the best of there ability. It is the Law that they have too. However, I think that none of this matters to you. Believe what you want to believe, but don’t be surprised when the insurance company denies you the right to get the care you wanted, because it has become prohibitively expensive, and get used to them changing your premium to $9000 when the real inflation hits.

  • Anonymous

    Five points for attempted logic.
    Minus 100 points for lack of facts and/or reality.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RXDNR7OMOC7XZMYMLBIZTD2UTU Texan

    I really don’t care of Ron Paul or someone with any other name wins, but I do care that someone committed to good principles and track record for leadership standing up for them (even when what is right is unpopular at the time, like the Iraq war) that are really the American principles that my great great great great great grandfather stood up for in the American revolution does. 

    It is a coincidence that Dr. Ron Paul is the only candidate who matches this criteria well at this point. 

    That’s how he has earned my vote.

  • Anonymous

    I respect Ron Paul, but I won’t vote for him. That is a side point.

    What we should expect to happen is that off-year elections get low voter turnout, but presidential election years bring out at least 50% of eligible voters. That works against Paul because he will never get more than the percentage he has already got locked in. It also works against the Tea Party, whose total support is about the same as Paul’s, but of course they are different people in most cases.
    Paul isn’t conservative enough for them. They love the aggressive military stance of the rest of the Republican party and the real attacks on personal freedom, like the war on drugs and the religious police.

  • Anonymous

    The sad thing for the Teapublicans is the fact that they can’t find a candidate that is more electable than Paul, who ultimately is not going to win the election.
    It is not sad for me.

  • Anonymous

    Just have to hope the  ”Sock Puppet Six” or ”GRiPSCaB” (GingrichRomneyPerrySantorumCainBachman) contingent stays together to dilute the primary vote! Cha-ching!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1616457972 Shirley BijTayl

    As an RN, I have to say Kim is full of crap, but one day you will be in hospital bed being thankful the Gvt imposed those regulations to keep your sorry ass safe. Seriously, what are you smoking?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1616457972 Shirley BijTayl

    Exactly, right now, medicare pays around $300 for a dialysis treatment as part of their Bundle program, some insurance companies pay as much as $4000+ per treatment.

  • Anonymous

    Hallelujah!  President Ron Paul IS surging!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1616457972 Shirley BijTayl

    true, not sure where some get their erroneous info. 

  • Anonymous

    They literally make it up. It is called rationalization.

  • Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti

    All of you little Paulette lemmings are repeating the same story despite the information on Paul’s good deeds is half a century old now and he’s not getting any younger either.  He let his own campaign manager from his .08 campaign die two weeks after RP withdrew from the race.  The manager had raised tens of millions for RP yet RP could spare none of it for the mans insurance.  He did not need a face-lift though, he had complications from pneumonia and was only 49 when he died.

  • Kahlid Shiek Yerbouti

    You’re going with Obama’s the reason insurance is so high, are you stoned or stupid?  There are 50 million Americans who do not have insurance. It costs what it costs due to the greed and avarice of the owners of the health care outlets and providers who gouge and charge exorbitant prices.  And insurance companies who collect millions in premiums and spend only pennies on the dollar on the insured.  Greed is why health care is so costly in this country.

  • http://www.internethappens.com Internet Happens

    Ron Paul has record setting financial support from the american people. Ron Paul has the majority of support from American military. The only people that don’t seem to like Ron Paul is mainstream media and the people brainwashed by them. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/vindex60 John Vindex

    Ron Paul doesn’t need to win the Presidency in order for his ideology of liberty to have a profound effect on American politics on the Right and society in general.  Mitt Romney may get the majority vote in 2012, but an irate, tireless minority of Ronulans are setting the brush fires in people’s minds including:

    1) Mainstreaming the idea the Federal Reserve is directly responsible for the U.S. debt, the perpetual deficits, and the advancement of the welfare/warfare state every single boom and bust that has occurred in this country since the bank’s creation in 1913. The Fed and Bernake are now being attacked by practically all the GOP candidates and an audit will happen sooner or later
    2) Except for Rick Santorum and John McCain, politicians are running from the word NeoCon as fast as they can. It’s also worth noting Ron Paul continues to get more military donations from our soldiers than every other Republican presidential candidate combined
    3) No politician in their right mind is going to suggest a bailout for a corporation in the near future. The phrase “crony capitalist” is thrown around on the media all the time now even by the likes of Sara Palin 
    4) A majority of the American people in a recent poll support the decriminalization of marijuana. And more and more politicians support removing it from the jurisdiction of the federal government and allowing the states to regulate it, like they would alcohol.
    5) More and more states are going their own way and legalizing gay marriage
    6) Friedrich Hayek’s the Road To Serfdom is a best seller again and “Fear the Boom and the Bust” I and II videos have over 4 million hits on YouTube
    7) The vast majority of Ronulans are young and will be a large influnence on the GOP for years to come

  • ixxies

    yes! good article, thanks, nice to see some uplifting news about Ron Paul.  I started a slogan/design  – OCCUPY WHITE HOUSE – RON PAUL 2012. :D You can get some designs on http://www.cafepress.com/rpst if you are intrigued. half of proceeds go to him (the other have to help me earn a tiny living). Let’s help get his name out there any way we can.

  • Ricky006900

    Cut the  illogical, bleeding heart, propaganda………Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
    Lets stop pretending that Hospitals, who are entirely for profit organizations, don’t ultimately write massive amounts of their uncollected debts off on their taxes every single year.  Usually this all but nullifies their actual effective tax rate.  Secondly, just because you are getting outright bilked and feel obliged to be part of a terrible, anti-trust, insurance system doesn’t give you the right to demand that other people should suffer “your” ridiculous burden of buyers remorse.  Medicare isn’t picking up the tab for any of this……and neither are you.  You need to stop being such a smug, condescending, elitist and stop bong hitting your own smelly hubris for a few minutes. What you are spewing in costs is just the gimmick that you are being sold to justify insurance companies, who don’t have sufficient competition, nor market competition, to raise your rates 4x as fast as the rate of inflation over the past few decades.  It’s the equivalent of what banks would be doing to you with their new usury rates if their wasn’t a threat of going over to someone else.  Something health insurance in America doesn’t have (and the Federal government only wants to conclusively solidify and regulate this outcome).The undeniable fact is that you are being served up a service that is entirely overpriced……is being unfairly propped up and entirely subsidized with billions of “our” tax dollars…….in order to participate in a medical system that essentially gives you the same medical services whether you were, or were not, independently insured.There is, after all, a reason that Kent Snyder died inside of a hospital.  It is because it is illegal to turn someone away from an Emergency Room……regardless of wealth, race, gender, creed, sexuality……or even immigration status.  That is a fact that you will never be able to deny in here.Just because you have willingly participated in a ponzi-scheme, with your money, does not give you the right nor ground to force that piss poor financial decision onto others around you.  

  • Anonymous

    What a fun to read and cleverly written article!  :-)

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    That’s crazy talk.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tim-Hallman/1432369708 Tim Hallman

    This is complete and utter nonsense. Do some research. Dr. Paul and his campaign staff donated something like $50,000 to Snyder. Furthermore, it is a fact that no amount of money would have saved Snyder. Stopped spouting lies and libel.

  • Anonymous

    If you can build it, do it.
    Otherwise, you are only pretending to be capable.

  • Anonymous

    I stole it fair and square, and I’m keeping it!

  • Anonymous

    But Mormons don’t drink.

  • Charleston Voice
  • Anonymous

    WOW!!! WOW!!!  This is the most amazing video documentary on Gingrich.  This should go viral.  After seeing this no one in their right mind should ever vote for Gingrich.  His not the solution to America’s problems but, rather he is part of the problem. Wake up America don’t let the media pick our next President.

    RON PAUL IS THE ONLY SOLUTION TO REVERSING AMERICA’S DOWNFALL.

  • Smcrgroup

    I keep feeling that Ron Paul will have the same outcome as Ronald Reagan!
    Most people categorized him as “NON ELECTABLE”
    I AM PREDICTING THAT RON PAUL WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT !
    The underlying thinking, non seen Americans which arebthe essential core of this nation agree with Ron Paul ‘ s fundamental values and thus our Constitution.
    May God guide our nation to vote for this true American that will carry us to long lasting peace and stability.
    May God bless us all with the power of enlightenment to see the good and make the right choices!

  • stefanieb

    OMG, this is enough.  ALL hospitals have monetary funds set up for indigent care.  That is what Dr. Paul said in the first debate.  Unfortunately, the inflationary dollar is making it harder and harder to pay for healthcare.  As a doctor in Lake Jackson, TX, he never accepted ANY federal monies but he DID accept all patients – whether they could pay or not!  No, offense, Kahlid, you really need to brush up on your facts.  Buy a book or do our educational system fail you, too?  I home-educated my children so they know exactly what I am talking about — too bad for you, sir!

  • http://www.facebook.com/casey.peak Casey Peak

    Not all states are closed. MN is an open caucus state meaning anyone can vote no matter how their registered. I’m registered independant as well (as most Minnesotans are) but the caucuses will still allow you to vote.

  • Anonymous

    Ron Paul at the top of the list and Cain just below him points to a possible discussion they could have. It would go like this:’ I’ll go first, You follow me”. And the other would say, ’ I’ll go first, You follow me”. In Iowa it’s going to be anyone but Romney. Their second tier candidates would be Perry and Bachmann, and you’d have the same conversation. I knew it was going to be one hell’ova great TEA/GOP/Republican primary!

  • Ricky006900

    It wasn’t a matter of cost for Ron Paul…….You are intentionally failing to remember that Snyder couldn’t get health insurance because of his “preexisting” conditions.  No amount of money on Earth would have changed or altered that fact.  This, in my opinion, is an inherent fault with the concept of health insurance……not Ron Paul.

    The idea that we are going to solve this problem of absurdly expensive, over regulated, and entirely non-competitive service by forcing a “mandate” on everyone in America insane in my opinion.
    This idea is essentially saying that if a small insolvent system is failing…….it will somehow get cheaper and more efficient if everyone becomes a part of it…..haha

    As if poor people will somehow become rich and be able to afford 5-12k insurance policies all of a sudden.  As if those who couldn’t have health insurance before will suddenly buy it now because they were being cheap……not because it is insanely expensive and will only keep going up in the future.

    Who will cover this burden difference?  Obviously the same people (ie. the tax payers) who are currently footing all the medical costs for poor people when they currently go to Emergency Rooms.
    In other words nothing changes……except how badly we will all be getting bilked.

  • rob aurich

    why is it higher? because the medical industry is an INDUSTRY! do you think insurance co. care about you?

    it has become a government backed sector of the poverty industry as is the student loan program. and doctors know that they can charge as much as people are willing to pay for in taxes via Obamacare; it’s called a simple hand in glove relationship.

    or do you think taxes to pay for government provided care will go down?

    and as for 50 years ago, and all that, do you not understand that those 50 years have allowed us to indebt the nation to the tuen of 15 trillion? Please, do us all a favor and examine the hand in glove relationship that is Congress and the FED, and understand that if this QE stuff goes on and on, the debt load will be so high, basic government provided healthcare will become impossible because of debt obligations and a lack of real work in America.

    It’s a slow-burn Kahlid, like putting a frog in hot water and then boiling it to death. So stop referencing the past and realize that Ron Paul is a visionary.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LT77Q3CQSDZAD6RJBOXSHJAEKM tayronachan

    I changed my voter affiliation to Rep so I can Vote in the primaries. If Ron Paul does not win the Rep. Primaries I will write him in. Write in Ron Paul 2012. And to be sure, at this point even with Ron Paul in the White House there will still be economic pain ahead of us. We let our Gov get our debt to 100% of GDP. Just to repeat, WE did this by voting for the politician that promised us the largest benefits from the public treasury.

  • Katmart10261

    Ron Paul is the only clear choice for a real leader in real though times for America

  • Anonymous

    Looking forward to vote Ron Paul in 2012!

  • Daniel Wathen

    Ron Paul would not seek to damage our weakened nation beyond repair…but his philosophy would open the door to others to seek and destroy the Nation of Liberty using our own liberty against us.  In a perfect world, Ron Paul’s not so bad.  In an evil world, we need someone who knows the difference between freedom through passivity and freedom through vigilance.

  • Heather Foster

    I voted for Ron Paul in the primary last time and then wrote him in on the general ballot.  All you have to do is look at his voting record….. He always stands for what he believes.  He is one of the last of and only politicians that are actually honest and stand for something.  GO RON PAUL!!!!  I have been an independent for a long time but actually, choke choke gag gag, registered republican just for Ron Paul.  I am so absolutely sick of the two parties I can barely stomach listening to the garbage coming out of their mouths.

  • http://games-survival.com Justplaythegame

    Not only does he have a shot.. he is the ONLY honest candidate in the race including the POTUS
     
    Search the truth.. every VOTE counts…

    Ron Paul 2012 and Beyond…

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