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Discuss: Why Dems Like Journalists and Repubs Don’t

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According to a recent Rasmussen poll, there’s a strong connection between individuals’ political leanings and their attitudes towards the media overall. “While 58% of Democrats view journalists favorably, 70% of Republicans and 55% of unaffiliateds do not.”

Overall, 43% of Americans have a favorable view of journalists, versus 54% who don’t — although twice as many have “very favorable” views of them as “very unfavorable.”

One curious aspect of these numbers is that by some metrics, conservative anchors and talkers are the media right now: recently, Fox News topped CNN, HLN, and MSNBC combined in primetime viewership, and the likes of Air America can’t compete with the number of listeners drummed up by conservative talk radio.

Rather than pontificate about where exactly the poll results are coming from, we’re opening it up to you. What do you think these numbers mean? What do Democrats value about journalists that Republicans don’t? Does the media have a liberal or conservative bias, or neither? And how do you explain the Republican media disapproval/Fox News paradox?

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  • Pam1151

    This is not a surprise. The right has a habit of “making things up” or lets just say “distorting the truth”. The left stays closer to the actual facts. So the press loves to go after the right!!! I would suppose that is why the dislike of the press on the right.

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    As a rock solid No Party Affiliation free thinker, I find most of the media unbearable most of the time. Almost nobody even makes the token effort at objectivity and fact checking is now an arcane science in media world.

    I have said it before – it is a sad day when the most objective journalist out there is Jon Stewart – a fake journalist.

    In general, conservatives are more active on their causes and far more likely to follow a media leader. Liberals tend to be more scattered in their news and information gathering, but no more interested in actual facts than conservatives.

    Democrats are used to the media playing into their thinking while Republicans have almost always used the media as a foil.

    The Fox thing is simple – up until they started their heavy conservative slant, conservatives did not have a network that leaned their way. Given that most of the media leans Democratic/liberal, it is only natural that Fox has the larger audience since they are effectively alone in their market.

    Did any of you folks actually pay attention to the media classes in college?

  • m

    I think there’s a reason why (some) Republicans continuously bash science, journalism and education. They have an underlying philosophical opposition to anything that might challenge their status quo world view. It’s the same reason why Conservapedia was created – because the claim that Wikipedia has a liberal bias.

    This poll just shows that decades worth of manufacturing the meme of a liberal media bias has resonated among a certain segment of the populace. It’s a good claim to keep repeating if you want to strategically slice up the market. Most Republicans today probably get their information from Fox News and from talk radio, two news sources that hardly strive for excellency in impartiality and only really offer the news and opinions that their viewers want to hear.

    Keeva, Fox News recently started a heavy conservative slant? They’ve had it since day one. You know how Republicans today hate MSNBC because they’re so biased? Democrats have had that opinion of Fox News since 1996.

  • http://www.swissarmyjew.com Keeva

    Did I say recently?

  • Billy Carter

    @m

    “This poll just shows that decades worth of manufacturing the meme of a liberal media bias has resonated among a certain segment of the populace.”

    Would it be safe to assume that back when NBC, CBS and ABC monopolized the media landscape, they were “objective” news sources? Again, there was no internet, CSPAN, CNN or FNC around, when the networks ruled the roost. I would advise you to read Bernard Goldberg’s book on the history of left leaning media history.

    You mention how Dems have loathed FNC since 1996. Wow, that’s only 13 years. Think about the 50+ years that Republicans and Independents have had to endure the propaganda spewed by the networks.
    FNC, as the new kid on the block, has essentially crushed the liberal media machine to the point where NBC had to create an MSNBC to spew blatant lies and parade the likes of Matthews, Maddow, Olbermann and the Ed Show guy in a desparate attempt to gain viewership.
    It’s looking awfully lonely for you “M” and the other 10 or so viewers that along with you, stubbornly hug the now irrelevant networks on the Left.

  • CaptainAmerica

    If you need a reason why not interview, Bernie Goldberg, he’s an expert on liberal bias in the media. Why is it that the newsrooms across America are dominated by liberals but yet they only make up 20% of the population? Also, why is it that there’s hardly any conservatives in the newsrooms across America when they make up 40% of the population?

    There’s one news network that actually tries to do something about the extreme liberal bias in the media-Fox News Channel. They have some opinion shows that slant right. But of course as the studies have shown, they were the least biased when it came to straight news during the last election. People continually whine about Fox’s opinion shows and they act like they are “news shows”. They aren’t and Fox doesn’t present them that way.

    MSNBC on the other hand continually blurs the line. They let their opinion hosts participate in their debate coverage, they let them host election news and other things. Besides, MSNBC’s regular news is full of left wing liberals. Tamaron Hall, Contessa Brewer, Norah O Donnell etc–all left wingers parading around as jounralists.

    CNN is the same way. If CNN had been doing straight news instead of being a left wing organization representing Ted Turners views, there wouldn’t have been a place for FNC. But at least they aren’t as bad as CNN International.

    The major news networks are a left wing joke. They don’t want to report on Acorn, all of them shilling for Obama Care, they all gave Rev Wright a pass, they keep playing up the if you are against Obama you are a racist. Why is it they all play up the murder of “baby killers” yet when a pro lifer was recently murdered you barely heard a peep about it? Why is it that they play up left wing rallies for things like gay marriage, WTO etc but they are AWOL when it comes to real Americans standing up and saying they’ve had enuf from their out of control Federal government.

    But there’s only one network standing alone that tries to provide fair and balanced coverage. The only network that has seen their ratings go up while the others are tanking. The one network that has a balanced set of viewers when it comes to Republicans, Democrats and Indepedents (as shown by the Pew Research Center). That one network is of course Fox News Channel. Fair, balanced and unafraid.

  • m

    Yes…of course…90% of Fox News watchers voting McCain/Palin is “balanced viewership”.

  • Anna

    “One curious aspect of these numbers is that by some metrics, conservative anchors and talkers are the media right now: recently, Fox News topped CNN, HLN, and MSNBC combined in primetime viewership, and the likes of Air America can’t compete with the number of listeners drummed up by conservative talk radio.”

    Your theory that because of the high ratings of conservative anchors and talkers that means they are the news right now isn’t logical. There are many more anchors and talkers that aren’t conservative than there are conservative ones. What those other anchors and talkers haven’t figured out is that the largest ideological block in this country is conservative at 40%, followed by moderates at 35% and liberals at 21%. That fact that the more conservative talkers and anchors are soaring in ratings simply means that they are appealing to the majority of Americans, and the other anchors and talking heads are out of touch with America. Recent polls show that more than 80% of all journals, reporters, anchors, etc. consider themselves liberals. It makes sense that independents, who are more often than not “moderate”, and conservatives wouldn’t trust them! Independent media watchdogs have been pointing out the liberal bias of the media for decades now, but most of the media outlets deny it and continue with their liberal slant, believing that they represent mainstream America. The ratings and this Rasmussen poll, once again, are telling them that they are wrong.

  • Anna

    m says:
    September 22, 2009 at 11:55 am

    I think there’s a reason why (some) Republicans continuously bash science, journalism and education. They have an underlying philosophical opposition to anything that might challenge their status quo world view. It’s the same reason why Conservapedia was created – because the claim that Wikipedia has a liberal bias.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And, what is your explanation for the fact that there is a Liberapedia? LMBO Republicans don’t bash science, journalism and education. We RESIST liberals attempts at revisionist history, liberal spin and bashing of all things conservative and/or Christian. We’ll continue to resist.

    http://liberapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Jones/1384303476 Chris Jones

    Because the vast majority of journalists are democrats.

  • m

    >”ideological block in this country is conservative at 40%, followed by moderates at 35% and liberals at 21%”

    The word “liberal” has been trashed by conservatives for so long less people don’t use it to identify themselves anymore. How many liberals call themselves progressives now? My point exactly. If you add Libertarian and Progressive into the mix, Liberals and Progressives outnumber Conservatives and Libertarians in this country.

    “>That fact that the more conservative talkers and anchors are soaring in ratings simply means that they are appealing to the majority of Americans”!

    No. It just shows that the false meme of a liberal media bias is working because it pushes all conservatives towards overtly self-affirming biased media, and that Fox News has an advantage in general because a majority of cable news watchers are older and more conservative.

  • m

    Anna, Liberapedia is a satire of Conservapedia (which *actually* is a serious website). I find it absolutely hilarious that you didn’t know that.

  • m

    I totally forgot how absolutely hilarious Conservapedia is http://www.conservapedia.com/Theory_of_Relativity As if the theory of Relativity has a liberal bias. HAHA! Once again, if scientists are Democrats – then somehow science is liberal. I guess same principle applies to journalists, right? *snicker*

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