Usually I am very much on Bernie Goldberg’s side because he is a former member of the lamestream media who has a unique prospective on their tactics but this time he is wrong and I am very disturbed to see FOX News turning against Michelle Bachmann because she is a strong Conservative woman and already faces enough of a bad time from the prog libs because they hate women and especially Conservative woman and if this is how it is going to be at FOX News they should get rid of all the RINOS who are on the air their and replace them with people who actually aren’t haters thank you.

Bernie Goldberg is submissive to Bryant Gumbel.

Firstly, that was some run-on sentence.

Secondly, Bachmann did this to herself. Submission means respect? Come on, who is really going to buy that? This is far from an attack from the media. Bachmann brought to the forefront the dumbest thing you can possibly say and she thinks she can just dismiss it and play it off like it’s no big deal; yea it’s the media’s fault for focusing on this. Bachmann is insane.

I suspect FOX “News” will be dedicated to destroying Mad Michelle in the next few months. Perhaps, this is the first indication.

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This attack on Michelle Bachmann like 99.9 percent of all attacks on Conservative woman is based on sexism pure and simple and this is what drives the prog libs who are so full of hate and venom towards successful and strong woman all of the time.  Thank you.

Where’s the Goldberg video?

Mad Michelle, really ? Though you were talking about our first lady – who wants everyone to eat carrots while she and BHO has 1,800 calorie fast food meals for lunch. 
BTW…after that “corn dog” photo, even Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon are jealous of Marcus B. ! 

Geez, Fox actually starts acting ‘Fair & Balanced’ and all Hell breaks loose!

hahahahaha…the goldberg-o’lielly wing at Fixed Noise is gonna destroy Bachmann…they realize that shes wayy to stupid and batshit crazy and would lose all 50 states to Obama in an election…..some republicans are in it to win it….but you BAGGERS are getting in the way…..what you gonna do now hobbits????…call goldberg a lib????….lolololololol……..bachmanns a joke just like scarbrough said….its time for you bible thumpin shitheads to get the hell out of politics…..return to you backwoods prayer circles

Yes Moo-chelle trying to get kids to eat their vegetables is the craziest thing I’ve ever heard because what is she the mother of America and the answer is of course no because she wants this to be the ultimate nanny state where kids are told to eat vegetables while she eats at her hip hop BBQ for her “president” husband who cares more about hip hop and parties than the American People and there is nothing that Michelle Bachmann a strong Conservative woman could ever do to match the craziness of the O-bow-mas.  Thank you.

I bet you are still searching for your father. So sad!

They all ought to get back to doing this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGnN3k2husc

You mean the way she’s been attaked by *ucker Karlsen, T-Paw, Turd Blossom and now Bill-o and Beano-o? {rog libs each.

You know I was taking you serious until I read this comment with the crap name calling and putting the word President between quotation marks. Idiot.

I put the title of 0-bow-ma Hussein in quotes always because of many reasons first I will not bring up the questions of his citizenship because that will bring all kinds of typical hate and venom from the prog libs here but second there are lots of legitimate questions regarding voter intimidation of course Eric Holder has kept it VERY quiet because it involves his friends in the black panthers and thirdly he does not speak for me nor does he speak for the millions of Tea Party Patriots out there who are going to get our country back in 2012.  Thank you.

This attack on Michele (not Michelle) Bachmann came from the lips of Byron York, long-time right wing hack employed by the National Review and the Washington Examiner. Nice try, Andrea Dworkin!

I like Bernie, but I’d say he missed the point on this one.  This is a “Gotcha” question that could be asked of any woman professing to be a Christian.  This is what skilled politicians do, Bernie.  They weasel out of “Gotcha” questions. 
I’m no big fan of Bachmann, but I’d say she handled it as well as anyone could expect. 
Slow news day for the pundit class, I guess.

Bernie is right.  Bachmann is a walking gaffe machine.  Bachmann has a very compelling personal story, but she is not ready for prime time.  Like Palin, she got a taste of the limelight and she liked it.  Usually the first casualty of public attention is one’s better judgment.  It’s the same reason most politicians in Washington, if left to the on accord, would only leave if it was feet first on a gurney. 
 
Nothing against the Right Honorable Lady from Minnesota, but when it comes to verbal combat with opposition party, leave it to the pros and this is how it’s done.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg&feature=related
 

That was epic pwnage right there.

She was asked what HER interpretation was and she gave HER answer.  It really is irrelevant what someone else’s interpretation of the word is.  If you are asking HER how she defines the word, then you have to take HER definition.  It doesn’t matter if you don’t agree with her definition.  It’s how she defines it.

Bachmann’s answer about submission is the Christian interpretation of what the bible says about a husband and wife.  And it is irritating to see people who obviously are not practicing Christians telling practicing Christians that their definition is wrong.  I’m not going to get too much into the weeds here on why Christians define the word as “respect”, but it has to do with the Greek word kephale, which means leader, not ruler.  Kephale is also a military word meaning leader, not ruler.  It is a difference in sending men into battle to die and leading men into battle from the front (and possibly be the first to die).  Christians do not believe the term to mean “rule over”, but “lead with respect”.  For example, if there is a problem in the family, it is the man’s responsibility to take the lead in solving the problem..instead of the husband and wife just staring at each other ignoring the problem.  

No, maybe they should be doing this . . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcKvCm6Qs3w&feature=related

yet you provide ZERO proof of this. just a claim with no proof.

suburban patriot.

news flash:

america is getting fatter and fatter. republicans are getting fatter and fatter. democrats are getting fatter and fatter

that’s gonna cost mucho money for medicare and medicaid

which everyone else pays for

Why should anyone pay for your excessive medical bills because you ate too freakin much? in the name of freedom? LOLZ coward

of course if Suburban Patirot believed even a small amount of what he says, then he’d be posting it under his real name :)

He doesn’t. that means he doesn’t believe any of it :)

no actually. it is asked of any woman professing to be a christian who has also made wacked out statements on marriage and the role of women in marriage

Dukem1 doesn’t handle things well. perhaps that’s why he posts under an anonymous name.

except she was spinning like a 4 year old the entire time. your hypocrisy is showing.

If anyone watched tonight’s FACTOR, it was GLORIOUS.
Because it was a BAD night for Laura Ingraham, as she got her ass handed to her TWICE.

First, she tried to play the victim card for Michelle Bachman. Which is fine — that’s simply Ingraham playing partisan politics by being a shill for the Right.  Which is fine too — after all, it’s not as if the Left doesn’t have their fair share of shills too.

But to his credit Bernie Goldberg was having NONE of it. And as an Independent, I say BRAVO, BERNIE.  He was 100% right in noting that ALL of the questions Bachman is being asked are FAIR since she actually DID say all of these nutty things. More to the point, he was 100% right to note she’s just being a typical politician by saying one thing to one audience (her church group), but then saying a completely different thing to another (a national audience via the debate).

And let’s be honest — Bachman IS desperately trying to walk back her silly “submissive” comment. And speaking as a writer who takes words seriously, BRAVO BERNIE AGAIN for correctly noting that being “submissive” (as Bachman first said) and being “respectful” (as she’s now spinning it) are NOT the same thing. In fact, by pure definition, they’re actually OPPOSITE things.

Truth be told, this woman has said some INCREDIBLY bewildering — if not outright stupid — things in the past. And now she’s being called on them, which is 100% FAIR since she wants to hold the highest office in the land.

Now, that’s not to say she can’t bounce back from everything and move on.
But give me a break — you have to own up to your own words, for Heaven’s sake!

But as I said before, the show was a glorious because THEN Ingraham got her ass handed to her a SECOND TIME by Ben Stein. They argued over today’s editorial from Warren Buffet, who says the rich don’t pay enough in taxes. And again, being the right wing shill that she is, Ingraham went on the attack with her usual talking points…

…Till out of the blue Ben Stein TOTALLY SLAPPED HER DOWN by posing a brilliant rhetorical question, which Ingraham had absolutely NO answer for. In fact, you could SEE on camera that she was instantly flustered and her brain was scrambling to come up with a reply — simply because she KNEW Stein had just won the day.

And that occurred when Stein simply asked: “Why can’t rich people pay the SAME marginal rate that they did under Ronald Reagan? Why can’t we go back to the Reagan rates? It’s not like Republicans think of Reagan as a giant tax hiker.”

LOL  I LOVED IT. Then again, I can’t stand Laura Ingraham. Personally, I think she’s every bit as obnoxious and rude and condescending to guests as a host for the right as someone like Ed Schultz is on the Left. So any time I see a guest handing her ass to her and belittling her on TV…letting her get a little karmic payback for the way she treats others… I feel like breaking out the champagne!

Sharpo: Here is your proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_York

I did not mean to like a comment below by a fellow named “Sharpo” who is clearly just another prog lib hater but I went to hit the button to reply to his attacks and there was only a like button which I hit instead so please do not think that I am endorsing the words or views of “Sharpo” and keep your eye out for him because he is sure to spread more of his typical lib hate and venom.  Thank you.

Byron York: The answer to the question posed to you by Laura Ingraham is Ron Paul. He is the only republican candidate that doesn’t talk from both sides of his mouth. He is consistent at least. If he says something he means it. He’s been saying the same thing for 30 years. You might not agree with him, but you gotta at least admit he doesn’t pander to audiences. He’ll say the same (what some perceive as wacky) ideas to anyone who asks the questions. I happen to agree with the vast majority of his policies as well.

suburban patriot has hit the point where he cries like a crybaby wah, wah, everyone is against me, wah, wah! it’s all a conspiracy. WOLF WOLF@realheadline:disqus

.. LOL what a coward with no balls you are.

that is not attacking conservatives. that is attacking you directly for being a hate filled coward with no balls or backbone.

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You only read the headline…

she wasn’t spinning.  she gave the answer of what HER interpretation is.  How is that spinning.

And what are you talking about my hypocrisy is showing?

Hey, Bush never spoke for me, but I didn’t put “President” in quotes for eight years even though Katherine Harris helped steal the 2000 election for him in Florida with her dirty deeds.

You know why they asked the submission question, because being a submissive presidential candidate is preferred. F these self righteous lards that think they can try to humiliate whoever they want, whenever they want. When are the American people going to tell them to F off?

Jayfradd is absolutely correct.. the MEdia shys from him.. when they should actually be taking him seriously!  i voted Democrat last year.. but.. the only man on that stage that should BE on that stage, is RON PAUL.. because he is real. 

somewhere in the deep grey matter this made sense to you? lol

have you truly thought out what Buffett said?  You realize it’s all bull.  Nobody is taking the time to figure out his fuzzy math, and it is fuzzy.

I missed Cavuto so I don’t know if he did point out the great fallacy of Warren.

His own p.r. tour for Obama and spewing crap.

right – and you have all the answers. lol
no actually you’re not handling things well.  We’re all anonymous doofus.  

I suspect you don’t know squat.  Perhaps your post is about the 1,000th indication.

Who woudl pass the test she asked Bernie Goldberg?….well hello RON PAUL?…he doesnt give hack asnwers…he doesnt give talkign point answers then…..

why do you think you can have it both ways? Just because Faux news panders to it’s “base” audience doesn’t mean that legitimate questions about someones character (or lack there of) can’t, and shouldn’t be addressed, if she thinks “you” should be submissive to your husband, then why shouldn’t she be submissive to hers? (even if he is gay)

they asked the submission question because it is a legitimate concern for American citizens to know who is in charge, and to show her as the hypocrite she is! she wants your wife to submit to you, but she doesn’t submit to her husband? Ridiculous!!!

The right will never admit it, not even to themselves, but Reagan raised taxes three times and raised the debt ceiling eighteen times. and those are the FACTS JACK!!
and why did he raise taxes, you ask?  because “trickle down” didn’t work and  it never will.
We need to throw Grover out on his ear and get back to reality, playtime for Richie Rich is over and now it is time to go back to work!
RESTORE THE CLINTON TAX RATES and completely erase the BUSH MISTAKE!

You sound as bad as Bachmann did on the Sunday talking head shows repeating the same “scared of strong conservative women” talking point. It’s an old and weak argument that has run it’s course.

It was clearly stated in the article and the video clip.

It wasn’t another msm trick gotcha story, I understand its hard to think everything in the world isn’t that, but you need to learn to handle reality.

I agree, FoxNews is a fucking joke that just wants a robot to follow the global corporate machine.

How dare the First Lady care about the health and nutrition of American children.  How dare the man who won the Presidential election be called President.

Bernie is absolutely correct. If Bachmann wants to be president ( she won’t be ) she must stop speaking like a freaking idiot, then sounding like an even bigger idiot while backpeddling….period…amen. 

A more important point might be what Bachmann did once she got that degree in tax law that her husband “ordered” her to get. She took a job with the federal government for about five years, and quit when she had her fourth child. (Source, Wikipedia) Would that she had stayed a government bureaucrat.

Let’s see how she holds up under the closer scrutiny she will now get.

That’s pretty good, but to me the key point is not Michele Bachmann’s abstract beliefs about the definition of “submission”, but how she carries out those beliefs in practice. 

According to Bernie Goldberg, she told a church audience that she didn’t want to be a tax attorney, but she did it anyway because her husband wanted her to, and because she believes that wives should submit to their husbands. 

If Bernie’s account is accurate, and if she was telling the truth, this raises legitimate questions, just as it did with Bill and Hilary Clinton — both when he was running and when she was running — about what kind of “co-presidency” the United States might be getting if Bachmann is elected. 

For instance if her husband told her to raise taxes, would Bachmann go along with it out of submission to him, even if she didn’t otherwise think it was the right thing to do, because of her religious beliefs? 

It sort of makes you want to either hear her say in no uncertain terms that she has evolved in her thinking since the tax attorney episode, is her own person and will follow her own best judgment, or failing that, to learn a lot more about who her husband is and what *he* believes.

Republicans allow themselves to be painted into a corner by questions like Ben Stein’s, by being overly worshipful of Ronald Reagan, whose actual actions in office frequently failed to live up to his limited government libertarian rhetoric.

So I’m curious, James — what limits, if any, do you think there should be on governments committing aggression against people by stealing money from them without their consent? 

Is such theft always justified, in your view, as long as the goal is to redistribute wealth so that it is more evenly spread across society? Or is there a maximum tax rate beyond which you would say, “That’s going too far”? If the latter, what do you think that maximum is, and why?

Do you think legislation to steal more money from taxpayers is only justified when a majority of voters are in favor of it, or is it justified even when the majority oppose it?

Finally, when you say “trickle down” will never work, does that mean you think a relatively small tax increase on the wealthy is useless and wouldn’t do any good? 

Or are you saying that “trickle down” *does* work when governments take people’s money and hand it out, just not when wealthy people voluntarily give their money to charitable foundations or other non-profits who then hand it out?

The not particularly strong tide of questioning was going one way and Bachmann was rowing backwardly with one oar in the other. 

Submissive means respect? …Really? What dictionary did she find that definition in? 

I think people would have had more respect, if she had stuck to it, with a genuine and honest answer. Its not the first time she’s dug a hole for herself evangelically speaking. I don’t think her responses will stand up to critical examination outside of those Tea Party heartland and they WILL be critical.

Bernie is hooked up with those, like Billo, that want Bachmannn to go.

Your comment is applicable to most of the republican candidates. Perry will be doing more backpedaling than Lance Armstrong.

From now on nobody is allowed to ask Bachmann about anything that she has definitely said – that’s sexist. All questions must now be specifically related to things she has never said because that’s not sexist. These gotcha journalists asking simple questions of people with aspirations to the most powerful office on the planet ought to be ashamed of themselves. I think I’m gonna puke.

seek123, why are you a nullo?

Bernie, as usual, is correct. “Submit” means “respect?” Since when?

If that were true Aretha would have sung “S-U-B-M-I-T, Find out what it means to me ,S-U-B-M-I-T,
Take care, TCB .”

Wallace gave her, essentially, a rhetorical question so that Bachmann could wax poetic on her views, and so she could set the record straight with respect to prior statements she had made, but Bachmann did not get it, got scared, and then, of course, attacked Wallace (though Wallace was trying to be her friend). That’s not the first time Wallace has gotten burned for being a nice guy.

I think she took her queue from the audience’s booed response. 

It really was a softball question, but I think she’s still unsure how to handle legitimate questions over the influence of her religious beliefs, not that there’s necessarily anything wrong with it per se.If the media on the electorate’s behalf don’t get a satisfactory answer…they’ll just dig deeper. People attacking Wallace doesn’t help either. Why shoot the messenger?

RON PAUL, SAVE US ALL!!

In case you didn’t know, there is no prize on Mediaite for longest rambling sentence.

Usually Bernie is right on, but this time he shows his ignorance of the Christian concept of mutual submission.

again, you inhabit a different planet than I do.  

You make a good point and those are legit issues to raise. Having your husband decide your career for you is not the Christian definition of submissive. So if that is how she is applying the definition, then it is a legitimate issue to address with her. I wasn’t aware her husband told her to be an attorney, so that is what she did.