A meeting President Barack Obama hosted in the White House for his key political backers from Wall Street is under fire from good government advocates and a Bush administration ethics official who say the session appeared to bring activity related to campaign fundraising onto White House grounds.

…However, the gathering, which was first reported last week by The New York Times, has drawn scrutiny and criticism because the Democratic National Committee extended invitations to the session.

“It’s obvious that the DNC is going after these people for money, not just for their thoughts,” said Richard Painter, who served as White House ethics counsel for President George W. Bush from 2005 to 2007. “I think that violates the spirit, if not the letter, of the Hatch Act,” the federal law limiting political activity and fundraising by federal employees. “If that had been run by me, I would have said, ‘No. Have the meeting someplace else.’”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57389.html#ixzz1PvgYkM3k

I love it. Michele Bachmann potentially misuses taxpayer dollars, and it’s the media’s fault.

Get caught red handed misusing taxpayers money?

Who to blame?

The boogeyman: the media.

Palin and Bachman would tire out this excuse sooner rather than later.

Donor meeting at White House draws fire

Hmmm…which story does Mediaite think is the bigger one…Michelle Bachmann or the POTUS misusing taxpayer dollars conducting unethical campaign fundraisers in the White House?

From Roll Call:
“According to House expense reports, Bachmann and three conservative GOP colleagues — Reps. Tom Price (Ga.), Steve King (Iowa) and Todd Akin (Mo.) — each paid $3,407.50 that day, a total of $13,630, to a sound and stage company called National Events, apparently for the sound system used at the rally.
The money came from the Members’ taxpayer-funded office accounts, despite House rules prohibiting the use of these funds for political activities. Bachmann’s office insists the expense was a proper use of official funds.
Bachmann billed the event as a “press conference,” which can be funded from official accounts. But no questions were taken from the press and, unlike most press conferences, it opened with a prayer, the national anthem and a recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance.”

It is is never a problem when taxpayer money is squandered by conservatives is it? It is like those teaparties in Congress who are on record having received hundred of thousands of dollars in farm subsidies, but publicly decry wasteful spending during their campaigns. God damn them all.

I hope she is innocent of all charges… I would love to see her somehow within one of the two options the right will run.

In the meantime guns, thousands of them, sold in an undercover ATF fiasco – possibly in cooperation with anti-gun lobbies – have murdered hundreds, the Justice Departmnet refuses to cooperate with the Open Records Act, Obama jokes about there being no “shovel ready” jobs despite pounding that in his campaign, and….WAIT!

EVERYBODY LOOK! SARAH PALIN AND BACHMAN!!!!

Good grief.

skyfet said:
Get caught red handed misusing taxpayers money? Who to blame? The boogeyman: the media. Palin and Bachman would tire out this excuse sooner rather than later.

But this was reported on Fox News sky. Anything on fox News in your world is…. how did you put it…. lies and distortions.

Oh, and I though Jon made it quite clear that Fox News supports all Repubs??? What happened?

Fokker News said:
It is is never a problem when taxpayer money is squandered by conservatives is it? It is like those teaparties in Congress who are on record having received hundred of thousands of dollars in farm subsidies, but publicly decry wasteful spending during their campaigns. God damn them all.

It is a problem when ANYONE wastes OUR money. Right or left. If she did it she’s done. Is it only a problem with you when a right winger wastes money? Or do you still support Obama giving all my money to rich Wall Street types?

tatboy said:
But this was reported on Fox News sky. Anything on fox News in your world is…. how did you put it…. lies and distortions.

Oh, and I though Jon made it quite clear that Fox News supports all Repubs??? What happened?

Duh! She was caught red handed. You can’t twist it, They couldn’t make it up, In the end they still try to blame the media, when they are the mainstream media.

tatboy said:
It is a problem when ANYONE wastes OUR money. Right or left. If she did it she’s done. Is it only a problem with you when a right winger wastes money? Or do you still support Obama giving all my money to rich Wall Street types?

bingo, if she did wrong, busted………..charlie rangel no problem

skyfet said:
Duh! She was caught red handed. You can’t twist it, They couldn’t make it up, In the end they still try to blame the media, when they are the mainstream media.

Fox News… Bringing the TRUTH acording to skyfet. Thank you skyfet for backing the truth that Fox News brings… :)

GAWD this is fun today!!!

Greg said:
I hope she is innocent of all charges… I would love to see her somehow within one of the two options the right will run.

Be careful what you wish for. She would destroy Ozero in a debate.

tatboy said:
If she did it she’s done

Horseshit. Conservatives will give her a pass, because the event was used push their ideology, The ends justify the means. Plus, she identifies herself as a “person of deep faith,” which gives her an excuse for any inappropriate behavior, as long as she meets certain criteria.

It wouldn’t matter anyways, because she’s a super person.

tatboy said:
Fox News… Bringing the TRUTH acording to skyfet. Thank you skyfet for backing the truth that Fox News brings… :)

GAWD this is fun today!!!

If I caught you red handed doing some mischief? Tell me how the hell you’d deny it. You can’t, Fox can’t hide it, they’d be destroyed if they attempt anything else.

So what we’re saying here is that there is nothing to this? Clearly just the usual pathetic liberal attempt at a headline where the hope is that people only remember the headline.

And Weiner didn’t “ignore” a “headache,” He attacked it with false accusations, lies and anger. Nice try though there Matt.

“House rules prohibit the use of official resources for political purposes, but the definition of what is political is murky. The House Ethics Manual notes that “no specific definition of bona fide campaign or political purposes exists in the rules” and that “Members often have discretion in determining whether an event will be ‘political’ or ‘official.’”

The ethics watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington filed a complaint with the Office of Congressional Ethics at the time…

The ethics office apparently investigated the complaint and dropped it.”

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/56_141/bachmann-plays-with-house-money-206599-1.html?pos=hmp

And?

If Ethics investigates, and says she did nothing wrong, what’s the beef?

Steve_27 said:
So what we’re saying here is that there is nothing to this? Clearly just the usual pathetic liberal attempt at a headline where the hope is that people only remember the headline.

And Weiner didn’t “ignore” a “headache,” He attacked it with false accusations, lies and anger. Nice try though there Matt.

You can’t handle the truth!

As they get to know her conservative philosophy, Bachmann is become more and more popular with Americans every day – and you know what that means…the lamestream socialist fake-news stooges will bring out the SLIME:

99 buckets of slime on the wall, 99 buckets of slime. When one is thrown at a American Patriot, there are 98 buckets of slime on the wall.

98 buckets of slime on the wall, 98 buckets of slime. When….

Come-on all you lunatic-lefties – join in !!! (It’s what you mental defectives do instead of rational discussion.)

Sara, the left is just hoping the charge will be enough to damage her. That’s how they roll~

“Did Michele Bachmann Use Taxpayer Money To Pay For Her Tea Party Rallies?”

When you put headlines in the form of questions, you can insinuate anything, and never have to prove anything. In other words, this “news item” (I use the term loosely) belongs with the “Did Mitt Romney Commit Voter Fraud?” story from last week.

Funny, how I never see these unsubstantiated-rumor-in-the-form-of-questions-in-the-headline stories about Barack Obama in the mainstream media.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Sara, the left is just hoping the charge will be enough to damage her. That’s how they roll~

i think you’re right.

felixw said:
“Did Michele Bachmann Use Taxpayer Money To Pay For Her Tea Party Rallies?” When you put headlines in the form of questions, you can insinuate anything, and never have to prove anything. In other words, this “news item” (I use the term loosely) belongs with the “Did Mitt Romney Commit Voter Fraud?” story from last week. Funny, how I never see these unsubstantiated-rumor-in-the-form-of-questions-in-the-headline stories about Barack Obama in the mainstream media.

Oh you mean like, IS Bill Clinton a serial Rapiest? Or IS Barack Obama an American hating socialist?

ARE the Mediaite JournOlists all liberal lapdogs, bent on destroying any Conservative?

I think you may be onto something Felix.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Be careful what you wish for. She would destroy Ozero in a debate.

Ummm….sure.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/michele-bachmann/statements/

skyfet said:
If I caught you red handed doing some mischief? Tell me how the hell you’d deny it. You can’t, Fox can’t hide it, they’d be destroyed if they attempt anything else.

I just realized you may be about 8 years old. I apologize for any slurs or insults I may have thrwon your way. I should not be speaking to you that way. I’m sorry.

felixw said:
Funny, how I never see these unsubstantiated-rumor-in-the-form-of-questions-in-the-headline stories about Barack Obama in the mainstream media

So you do not include Fox news as being part of the mainstream media, because FOX uses that question trick all the time.

Greg said:
Ummm….sure. http://www.politifact.com/personalities/michele-bachmann/statements/

I’ll bet she knows there are only 50 states.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
ARE the Mediaite JournOlists all liberal lapdogs, bent on destroying any Conservative? I think you may be onto something Felix.

After three weeks of weiner, that theory seems lame.

As Judge Roy Bean used to say, “Do you have anything to say before we find you guilty?”

felixw said:
“Did Michele Bachmann Use Taxpayer Money To Pay For Her Tea Party Rallies?”

When you put headlines in the form of questions, you can insinuate anything, and never have to prove anything. In other words, this “news item” (I use the term loosely) belongs with the “Did Mitt Romney Commit Voter Fraud?” story from last week.

Funny, how I never see these unsubstantiated-rumor-in-the-form-of-questions-in-the-headline stories about Barack Obama in the mainstream media.

hehehe……

you’re funny…..

weeeeeeee!!!!!!

valkyrie101 said:
So you do not include Fox news as being part of the mainstream media, because FOX uses that question trick all the time.

The difference between Fox and MSNBC, is that Fox asks questions and then lets both liberal and conservative guests discuss and debate the answers. MSNBC asks questions and only allows far left liberals like you to answer them. That’s the difference between political dialogue and propaganda.

Did you watch O’Reilly defend Obama in a debate yesterday evening? Remind me of the last time Rachel, Lawrence or Ed defended Bush or another prominent Republican in a debate.

I can answer that one for you….Never.

Greg said:
Ummm….sure. http://www.politifact.com/personalities/michele-bachmann/statements/

You cant “ummm…sure” an opinion. It could happen, it could not happen.

And the link? Ah, yes, complete with typical liberal immature ugly picture of person in question. Reminds me of kindergarten when we used to fight with blocks. Anyway, send us another link with 100 pages of Bachmann quotes you think to be wrong and i’ll still point out the fact that this is irrelevant to if Bachmann could beat Obama in a debate or not. And without even mentioning Obamas quotes that are wrong or misleading.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Oh you mean like, IS Bill Clinton a serial Rapiest? Or IS Barack Obama an American hating socialist?

Show me when a mainstream media outlet used those headlines. And if you can’t, admit that you make garbage up. I’ll accept your admission that you invented these below.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
I’ll bet she knows there are only 50 states.

He understands that well.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp

sarainitaly said:
“ If Ethics investigates, and says she did nothing wrong, what’s the beef?

Well skyfet say’s she was caught red handed damn you! Dont you listen!!!

well i guess bachman is starting to scare the libs and the lib media. good. she must have credibility if they’re going after her.

skyfet said:
You can’t handle the truth!

What I cant handle is the pain in my ribs from your post that make me laugh so hard. Your a class one idiot, please keep’em coming.

And for the record, I can handle anything in regards. I have never been in the tank for Bachmann so if she screwed up I couldn’t care less. You keep begging though, it’s expected when your never right about anything. What else can you do?

Fokker News said:
Horseshit. Conservatives will give her a pass, because the event was used push their ideology, The ends justify the means. Plus, she identifies herself as a “person of deep faith,” which gives her an excuse for any inappropriate behavior, as long as she meets certain criteria.

Like the Dems give there folks a pass? And I meant she’s done with people like me.

Fokker News said:
Horseshit. Conservatives will give her a pass, because the event was used push their ideology, The ends justify the means. Plus, she identifies herself as a “person of deep faith,” which gives her an excuse for any inappropriate behavior, as long as she meets certain criteria.

And as far as getting a pass. The Dems OWN that one.

Hay… I’m a Dem. We don’t claim to be good or ethical so no big deal. Where’s my pass?

justanotherconservative said:
well i guess bachman is starting to scare the libs and the lib media. good. she must have credibility if they’re going after her.

ANYONE and EVERYONE with an R will be attacked. As sure as the sun come’s up, ALL republicans will be attacked. NOT, NEVER, on issues! Just attacked. Who shops at Tiffanys, who makes pizza. Who’s inexperienced, who’s a mormon. Who’s just plain dumb or who’s just real boring. It will be relentless for the next year so just get used to the stupidity.

Liberal Tormentor – tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 says:
Be careful what you wish for. She would destroy Ozero in a debate.
……………………………………………………………
Be careful of what you wish for! The debate wouldn’t be a “Fox” kissfest. She would not be handed the questions and answers before hand and spoon fed, the clean up! She would have to use some facts and real history, not possible for her! I will give you this, as crazy and as much as she spins and uses false numbers, I do think there is a little of a family value there! A little!

Did Obama conduct fundraising in the White House?

Azarkhan said:
A meeting President Barack Obama hosted in the White House for his key political backers from Wall Street is under fire from good government advocates and a Bush administration ethics official who say the session appeared to bring activity related to campaign fundraising onto White House grounds.

…However, the gathering, which was first reported last week by The New York Times, has drawn scrutiny and criticism because the Democratic National Committee extended invitations to the session.

I am reminded of the immortal words of A.A. Gore Jr, vice-president of the United State, who defended his fund-raising inside the White House by claiming that there was “no controlling legal authority” who might question or challenge his actions or his interpretation of what his actions were!

If the topic was policy, then why were these moneybags invited by the DNC? If the topic was fund-raising, then why did they not take the meeting across the street to the DNC HQ?

It seems very petty for the DNC’s Opposition Research branch to slam Congresswoman Bachmann for $3400 for the sound system for a rally in November 2009. She was certainly not a candidate for higher office at that time — she was just trying to raise support for the defeat of ObamaCare. Politicians on both sides do this sort of thing all the time. It seems like a lot of money to rent a sound system, but any time more than 100 or so people are going to gather for a rally, there needs to be a sound system of some kind.

Obama’s Organizing For America (OFA) has already announced plans to raise and spend $1 billion. Mr Obama is constantly criss-crossing the country in Air Force One to attend fund-raisers — and we all know the real cost of operating Air Force One is more than what the DNC pays in reimbursement.

So Obama is soaking the taxpayers for far, far more than $3400 every time he travels to a fund-raiser. I’m not saying Ms Bachmann and her colleagues are 100% in the right, only that in the Big Picture, she used petty cash for a good purpose that was not intended to benefit her personally.

timcajun said:
She would have to use some facts and real history, not possible for her!

Obama, on the other hand…

I’d pay good money to watch that debate.

Fokker News said:
The money came from the Members’ taxpayer-funded office accounts, despite House rules prohibiting the use of these funds for political activities. Bachmann’s office insists the expense was a proper use of official funds.

Do you believe that the US government is fully compensated for the costs of operating Air Force One, every time Mr Obama travels to NY or LA or Florida to host a campaign fund-raiser?

Do you believe the uncompensated costs might be greater than $3400 for each trip?

felixw said:
“Did Michele Bachmann Use Taxpayer Money To Pay For Her Tea Party Rallies?”

When you put headlines in the form of questions, you can insinuate anything, and never have to prove anything. In other words, this “news item” (I use the term loosely) belongs with the “Did Mitt Romney Commit Voter Fraud?” story from last week.

Funny, how I never see these unsubstantiated-rumor-in-the-form-of-questions-in-the-headline stories about Barack Obama in the mainstream media.

Did you READ the Roll Call article? Pretty substantiated to anyone who reads words in English and comprehends them.

On the same day that “Jackass” reality star Jack Dunn died in a car wreck, movie critic Roger Ebert took to Twitter to berate drunk driving, much to the chagrin of fellow “Jackass” cast mate Bam Margera.

“Friends don’t let jackasses drink and drive,” Ebert wrote on Twitter after news outlets reported that Dunn had posted a Twitter photo of himself boozing up a few hours before the accident.

…Margera ripped into Ebert on Twitter with response tweets, “I just lost my best friend, I have been crying hysterical for a full day and piece of shit roger ebert has the gall to put in his 2 cents…About a jackass drunk driving and his is one, fuck you! Millions of people are crying right now, shut your fat f***ing mouth!”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/21/eberts-facebook-page-temporarily-down-after-snarky-comment-about-late-jackass-star/#ixzz1Pw46XmW1

Yes Roger, please shut your fat f***ing mouth.

Steve_27 said:
You cant “ummm…sure” an opinion. It could happen, it could not happen.

And the link? Ah, yes, complete with typical liberal immature ugly picture of person in question. Reminds me of kindergarten when we used to fight with blocks. Anyway, send us another link with 100 pages of Bachmann quotes you think to be wrong and i’ll still point out the fact that this is irrelevant to if Bachmann could beat Obama in a debate or not. And without even mentioning Obamas quotes that are wrong or misleading.

A debate, when properly performed, is a verbal joust. The successful thrust a logical point reasoned and supported by evidence. Mrs. Bachman has demonstrated profound deficiency in constructing those elements needed for success in the arena of ideas. If you object to her visage, that is a point best adressed to Mrs. Bachmann. Regarding, your block based rememberances…ummmm…sure.

Is Obama using recovery.gov for partisan propaganda? Darrel Issa wants to know, and the GAO is going to find out. Stay tuned!

valkyrie101 said:
After three weeks of weiner, that theory seems lame.

The liberal media went after Weiner because he lied to them, which embarrassed them. Period.

Bill Huggins said:
Did you READ the Roll Call article? Pretty substantiated to anyone who reads words in English and comprehends them.

The Roll Call article said: “The ethics watchdog group [CREW] filed a complaint with the Office of Congressional Ethics at the time, claiming Bachmann had violated a clearer directive from the House Administration Committee that Member websites “may not include grassroots lobbying or solicit support for a Member’s position.” Bachmann had posted a release on her site announcing the event. The ethics office apparently investigated the complaint and dropped it. (end of quote)

It seems to me very commonplace for members of Congress to invite constituents to come to Washington and let the office-holders know what they think about the topics of the day. As for whether anyone used his or her official website for the purpose of soliciting support, I suspect that 535 members of Congress attempt to use their websites to gain political support and to persuade voters that each congressmen’s policies are the ones that should be supported.

“The ethics office apparently investigated the complaint and dropped it.” Perhaps Roll Call should have investigated further before publishing this article?

felixw said:
Show me when a mainstream media outlet used those headlines. And if you can’t, admit that you make garbage up. I’ll accept your admission that you invented these below.

Dude, I’m on your side. I was doing what you rightly claim they do.

Bill Huggins said:
Did you READ the Roll Call article? Pretty substantiated to anyone who reads words in English and comprehends them.

Did you READ the Roll Call article, Bill?

The ethics office apparently investigated the complaint and dropped it.

Not only is it not substantiated, it’s already been reviewed and dismissed as being an issue. It’s over, Bill. But you can find something else to hate her for, can’t you? I bet you can!

felixw said:
The difference between Fox and MSNBC, is that Fox asks questions and then lets both liberal and conservative guests discuss and debate the answers. MSNBC asks questions and only allows far left liberals like you to answer them. That’s the difference between political dialogue and propaganda. Did you watch O’Reilly defend Obama in a debate yesterday evening? Remind me of the last time Rachel, Lawrence or Ed defended Bush or another prominent Republican in a debate. I can answer that one for you….Never.

Not according to Wallace. Rather, he points out the obvious, that because most of the media is skewed left Fox News brings balance by being way over on the right. So their “Fair and Balanced” moniker is accurate, just not in the way that conservatives tell themselves.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
The liberal media went after Weiner because he lied to them, which embarrassed them. Period.

The point is that all the media targets are not conservatives.

Val, how long did they sit on the Edwards story after they had it? And they sat on the Mark Foley story just long enough that the R’s couldn’t replace him on the ballot. If that’s not activist journOlism, I don’t know what is.

valkyrie101 said:
Not according to Wallace. Rather, he points out the obvious, that because most of the media is skewed left Fox News brings balance by being way over on the right. So their “Fair and Balanced” moniker is accurate, just not in the way that conservatives tell themselves.

Stop lying, that’s not what he said and you know it. You guys can keep repeating it, but it won’t make it true.

Pablo said:
Darrel Issa wants to know, and the GAO is going to find out.

Pablo, don’t you know that the $800 billion “stimulus bill” was in reality the $800 billion political slush fund? Of course every cent was spent for partisan purposes, and every press release was purely propaganda.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Stop lying, that’s not what he said and you know it. You guys can keep repeating it, but it won’t make it true.

:-) It was true long before he said it.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
I’ll bet she knows there are only 50 states.

And I’ll bet you’ve never misspoken in your life. For the love of God, how can you be of the party of George W. Bush and Sarah Palin and hold that against the President?!

J Baustian said:
Pablo, don’t you know that the $800 billion “stimulus bill” was in reality the $800 billion political slush fund? Of course every cent was spent for partisan purposes, and every press release was purely propaganda.

Including all of the press releases by conservative politicians touting stimulus-funded projects in their districts, despite the fact that they voted against it?

lillyluminatus said:
And I’ll bet you’ve never misspoken in your life. For the love of God, how can you be of the party of George W. Bush and Sarah Palin and hold that against the President?!

Yeah, when it’s Obama or a liberal, they misspoke. If it’s a Conservative, they’re an idiot. You guys made the rules, and now you have to live by them. Sucks doesn’t it!

valkyrie101 said:
:-) It was true long before he said it.

Except that he never said that, which makes you a liar. Don’t worry, we already knew that about you.

Pablo said:
Is Obama using recovery.gov for partisan propaganda? Darrel Issa wants to know, and the GAO is going to find out. Stay tuned!

Fun game… Is Issa a dirty rotten liar and criminal charged with attacking our president?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/e/a/1998/05/29/NEWS12714.dtl&type=printable
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/07/02/MN153221.DTL&ao=all
Lets find out.

Distracting from the article and hijacking the narrative is fun!

South Africa President Jacob Zuma has snubbed the visiting Michelle Obama by sending his prisons minister to meet the first lady at the airport and failing to see her during her three-day stay.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/michelle-obama/8589715/Jacob-Zuma-snubs-Michelle-Obama-during-First-Ladys-South-Africa-visit.html

At least he made one of his three wives available for a private meeting.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Except that he never said that, which makes you a liar. Don’t worry, we already knew that about you.

The issue is that there is a readily available, logical and simple explanation for his misstep that the right ignores. What explains Palin’s inability to cite the newspapers she reads?

lillyluminatus said:
And I’ll bet you’ve never misspoken in your life. For the love of God, how can you be of the party of George W. Bush and Sarah Palin and hold that against the President?!

Obama was referring to the fifty states, one district and seven territories.

valkyrie101 said:
Obama was referring to the fifty states, one district and seven territories.

which is 58, not 57

valkyrie101 said:
Obama was referring to the fifty states, one district and seven territories.

OOps, I misspoke. 50 States, 1 District, and 5 voting territories. 56

Greg said:
The issue is that there is a readily available, logical and simple explanation for his misstep that the right ignores. What explains Palin’s inability to cite the newspapers she reads?

Jon Stewart Falsely Claims Chris Wallace Said Fox Doesn’t Tell Both Sides of the Story

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/06/21/jon-stewart-falsely-claims-chris-wallace-said-fox-doesnt-tell-both-si#ixzz1PwCqvpWg

The liberal media continues to prove Wallace correct with their lies. Keep it up!!

cjd ohio 1 said:
valkyrie101 said:
Obama was referring to the fifty states, one district and seven territories.

which is 58, not 57

LOL

cjd ohio 1 said:
which is 58, not 57

valkyrie101 said:
OOps, I misspoke. 50 States, 1 District, and 5 voting territories. 56

56 not 57, so he cant add as well

valkyrie101 said:
Obama was referring to the fifty states, one district and seven territories.

Sure he was.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Except that he never said that, which makes you a liar. Don’t worry, we already knew that about you.

Well he didn’t say it exactly like I did, but it was essentially the same point.

Obama had visited 47 states in the Continental United States, “one more to go”… in his fatigue he replaced forty with fifty and was then charged with being a muslim sending a coded message… indicative of elements within the dedicated reactionary opposition.

Greg said:
Distracting from the article and hijacking the narrative is fun!

The topic of the article is the political use of taxpayer funds. Issa’s investigation is also about the use of taxpayer funds for political purposes. But i understand how much fun the game can be. Woohoo!

PricewaterhouseCoopers (PWC) recently released its annual report on medical cost trends for 2012, and it is revealing…

3) Perhaps most concerning are the findings of a survey also released by PWC divulging how employers are likely to react to Obamacare. The survey showed that nearly half of employers will drop their coverage, dumping employees into the government-run exchanges. Individuals who qualify would then receive generous federal subsidies to purchase insurance. If more employers than expected dump coverage, as other experts have predicted, the cost of the subsidy program will explode deficit spending. The results of the PWC survey indicate this is likely to be reality.

5) Employers who offer coverage to their workers face growing uncertainty regarding costs under the new law. The negative consequences of Obamacare’s changes will be threefold: higher costs for those with employer-sponsored coverage; a greater debt burden on current and future taxpayers; and slower growth in job creation and the overall economy.

http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2011/06/20/its-not-just-mckinsey-suggesting-obamacare-is-a-mess/

Thank you President Dumbf*ck.

Fact: All it takes is one of her constituents to be in audience to make it a formal meet with her constitutes. Very hard to find malice here slimes.

Given that 0ilbammie flushed almost a TRILLION DOLLARS down the CRAPPER, this money is pretty low on MY list of wasted tax dollars.

-0bama – A waste of skin regardless of its color-

Pablo said:
The topic of the article is the political use of taxpayer funds. Issa’s investigation is also about the use of taxpayer funds for political purposes. But i understand how much fun the game can be. Woohoo!

The article concerns Bachman, jump to taxpayer funds, then Obama and murder and now you have your feet firmly planted in thick gooey madness… have fun slopping around in that!

Hey tormentor, why is it so hard to accept the notion that Fox News is right wing oriented, isn’t it the place where right wing candidates feel at home? Everybody on the planet can see that Fox, which is run by a lifelong republican activist, Roger Ailes, caters to the right. To deny that is silly.

Laddy Go-Rod said:
Given that 0ilbammie flushed almost a TRILLION DOLLARS down the CRAPPER, this money is pretty low on MY list of wasted tax dollars.

-0bama – A waste of skin regardless of its color-

http://simplecomplexity.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/stimulus-image.gif

valkyrie101 said:
Well he didn’t say it exactly like I did, but it was essentially the same point.

NO, you mean you are spinning it to mean something it didn’t. That’s what you libs do.

Bachmann insisted that they were proper use of her taxpayer funded office account, but she should reimburse the account immediately regardless. From here on out, her expenses will be under the microscope. It won’t matter if the attacks are valid or not to her opponents, but don’t give them an opening.

Now, how about Obama using Air Force One and the White House for his fundraising and campaigning. Those are much larger expenses which are funded by the taxpayers. Let’s demand that he reimburse those accounts as well.

valkyrie101 said:
Hey tormentor, why is it so hard to accept the notion that Fox News is right wing oriented, isn’t it the place where right wing candidates feel at home? Everybody on the planet can see that Fox, which is run by a lifelong republican activist, Roger Ailes, caters to the right. To deny that is silly.

You know I read a great article the other day talking on a book written by a professor at the conservative bastion UCLA. He says what I’ve said all along. It’s not that FOX is SO far to the right, it’s that the rest of the media is so left, if makes anyonce in the center look further to the right. But you libs keep up your unsuccessful war on FOX. It’s been an EPIC FAIL so far and will continue to be so.

Liberal Media Distorts News Bias

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/06/16/book-liberal-media-distorts-news-bias

Think about that “Fair and Balanced” motto, isn’t that really a very liberal notion, “fair and balanced”? that is socialism, pure and simple. So my theory is that Ailes and friends use it more as a taunt, like, “Here’s your fair and balanced, in you face”. Its like a Bronx cheer, or one of those hideous australian hoots.

NonElite said:
Bachmann insisted that they were proper use of her taxpayer funded office account, but she should reimburse the account immediately regardless. From here on out, her expenses will be under the microscope. It won’t matter if the attacks are valid or not to her opponents, but don’t give them an opening. Now, how about Obama using Air Force One and the White House for his fundraising and campaigning. Those are much larger expenses which are funded by the taxpayers. Let’s demand that he reimburse those accounts as well.

How about Obama having fundraisers at the whitehouse. I didn’t see a mediaite story on this recent event. Too busy with stories of Obama calming crying babies.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
You know I read a great article the other day talking on a book written by a professor at the conservative bastion UCLA. He says what I’ve said all along. It’s not that FOX is SO far to the right, it’s that the rest of the media is so left, if makes anyonce in the center look further to the right. Liberal Media Distorts News Bias http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/06/16/book-liberal-media-distorts-news-bias

The rest of the media is left of what? Where is the center and who represents it?

Greg said:
The article concerns Bachman, jump to taxpayer funds, then Obama and murder and now you have your feet firmly planted in thick gooey madness… have fun slopping around in that!

What? You don’t want us to play in Issa’s decades ago military service anymore?

Here’s the thing, Greg:

The ethics office apparently investigated the complaint and dropped it.

Right there in the article. That tells us where the whole thing is going. Nowhere. So, how about the President’s using taxpayer funds and resources on his political operation? That one is still an open question. So, let’s talk about that. Or, Nixon. Whichever you think is more important.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
How about Obama having fundraisers at the whitehouse. I didn’t see a mediaite story on this recent event. Too busy with stories of Obama calming crying babies.

Obama brings calm even to crying babies. (And the Fox News banner: Is Obama using hypnosis to control our children?)

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
NO, you mean you are spinning it to mean something it didn’t. That’s what you libs do.

I enjoy teasing you.

valkyrie101 said:
I enjoy teasing you.

And I enjoy tormenting you with logic and facts.

And in other news, the RNC admits the current line of Republican presidential candidates is completely inadequate. Plans have now been made to dig up the corpse of Harold Stassen and run his remains for President instead.

Pat Paulsen’s cremated ashes will be the VP pick.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
And I enjoy tormenting you with logic and facts.

At least you didn’t mention religion.

valkyrie101 said:
Obama brings calm even to crying babies. (And the Fox News banner: Is Obama using hypnosis to control our children?)

I think the baby was just happy to get away from Michelle.

valkyrie101 said:
At least you didn’t mention religion.

Why would I? It’s you libs that always bring it up, not me.

Steve_27 said:
ANYONE and EVERYONE with an R will be attacked. As sure as the sun come’s up, ALL republicans will be attacked. NOT, NEVER, on issues! Just attacked. Who shops at Tiffanys, who makes pizza. Who’s inexperienced, who’s a mormon. Who’s just plain dumb or who’s just real boring. It will be relentless for the next year so just get used to the stupidity.

hehehehehehe……..wow……

Dude I so agree with you…really I do man…It’s unfair for the Republicans these days…..

And I’m sure the radical socialist,terrorist fist-bumping,Kenyan born,anti-american,anti-Israel,anti-capitalism,secular muslim, who has a fat wife who hates America(Obama’s baby mama), who’s not one of us,who doesn’t believe in american exceptionalism ,who’s the opposite of freedom,who wants to destroy the country, who invites “hoods” in the “Big Hizzy” everyday, who’s chugging 40′s and doesn’t care about his country,who’s anti-police,who is a racist and has a problem with “white culture”,who faked his birth certificate,who faked his social insurance number,who hates freedom,who wants to put us all in FEMA camps to gas us,who spends 200 millions a day for a trip,who’s always on vacation,who’s a sexist,who’s a communist,who’s a marxist,who’s a Nazi,who’s children are “stupid” and “uneducated”,who Trump heard he had done “really bad in school”, who faked Bin Laden’s death,and who’s laughing at the american people while they are struggling….you know….. the President of the United states…..agrees with you too.

So yea…..it’s really unfair for the Republicans these days…
Right?
Right…………

Pablo said:
I think the baby was just happy to get away from Michelle.

Good one. Woman are way overated as mothers.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Why would I? It’s you libs that always bring it up, not me.

Yes, we tend to be religious.

Pablo said:
What? You don’t want us to play in Issa’s decades ago military service anymore?

If that is a game I truly delighted in would I not have partaken initially? It was an example of the absurdity of distraction and a critique of right wing digital mob tactics of diversion.

Pablo said:
Or, Nixon. Whichever you think is more important.

Nice…

Pablo said:
how about the President’s using taxpayer funds and resources on his political operation

From what I can tell he met with members of the financial elite, many of whom supported him for the presidency in 2008, to get insight into policy that might be amenable to economic growth. His sins so far includes not including the meeting on his public schedule and allowing the DNC to organize the meeting. Truly the acts of a socialist dedicated to heretofore unmatched collusion with private interests. Psyche.

valkyrie101 said:
Yes, we tend to be religious.

Unlike you, I don’t feel the need to bash your religion, whatever it may be.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Unlike you, I don’t feel the need to bash your religion, whatever it may be.

I’m happy to hear that. So us non-Mormons are no longer assigned to Hell?

No and we don’t teach that you are going to hell. Just one of your MANY misconceptions of us.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
No and we don’t teach that you are going to hell. Just one of your MANY misconceptions of us.

Cool.

Greg said:
If that is a game I truly delighted in would I not have partaken initially? It was an example of the absurdity of distraction and a critique of right wing digital mob tactics of diversion.

Except that it was used to distract from Issa’s just-announced investigation of the use of government resources for partisan propaganda. That’s not a distraction, that’s an issue, an open issue, unlike this Bachmann jazz.

Greg said:
From what I can tell he met with members of the financial elite, many of whom supported him for the presidency in 2008, to get insight into policy that might be amenable to economic growth. His sins so far includes not including the meeting on his public schedule and allowing the DNC to organize the meeting. Truly the acts of a socialist dedicated to heretofore unmatched collusion with private interests.

That’s not what Issa is investigating. That’s a different instance of Obama using government resources for political purposes.

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Unlike you, I don’t feel the need to bash your religion, whatever it may be.

valk is a Moonie. Fire at will.

Gotta love the usual victim-hood angle the cons, like Crowley here, like to play. No possibility Bachmann could in fact be doing something wrong, it becomes the “media” just wants to get at her. Stupid woman. When a liberal becomes the object of suspicion, they are usually guilty before even any evidence can support it. *sigh*

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
Yeah, when it’s Obama or a liberal, they misspoke. If it’s a Conservative, they’re an idiot. You guys made the rules, and now you have to live by them. Sucks doesn’t it!

Yes, well, when you do it once, it’s probably a mistake. When you do it every time you open your fricking mouth, it just might indicate something more. Shall I pull out my book of ridiculous Bush quotes? Because it would probably take about 10 posts to get through them all.

Pablo said:
valk is a Moonie. Fire at will.

Yes, fire away.

Did you know that Lindsey Graham was among those who put a crown on Reverend Moon’s head and declared him “king”?

GET IT GIRL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIZaH_rP1R8

Greg said:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/e/a/1998/05/29/NEWS12714.dtl&type=printable

For all you rookies out there, THAT is how you do a hit piece. Plenty of anonymous quotes, unsubstantiated charges, allegations with totally innocent explanations, occasional displays of ignorance like claims that ROTC (Reserve Officers’ Training Corp) is not military service, etc.

For the record, Lance Williams went on to win awards for investigative reporting on steroid use by professional athletes.

As for Darrel Issa, he has won a great many campaigns for election, in part because his constituents think that what he may or may not have done as a 17- or 18-year-old Army EOD technician was outweighed by his record later as an officer and a tank platoon leader — where he was given outstanding evaluations by his commanding officer, Wesley Clark, who was later to become the Supreme Allied Commander of NATO and a Democratic candidate for president.

Issa also became very rich. Starting with $50k that he mostly borrowed, he started making CB radios, radar detectors, and car alarms. He sold one car alarm company and then started another which he sold when he ran for Congress. It is said that Issa has a net worth of $250 million — not bad for a kid who dropped out of high school to join the Army.

THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZER uses taxpayer money to campaign just about 24/7; so what’s the problem?

That’s why we have a DEMOCRATIC-DRIVEN DEPRESSION!

2012 – End the Obama-Democrat DEPRESSION!

Liberal Tormentor - tormenting liberals with logic and facts since 1972 said:
How about Obama having fundraisers at the whitehouse. I didn’t see a mediaite story on this recent event. Too busy with stories of Obama calming crying babies.

Good point. I was a bit curious about the lack of coverge here on Obama’s fundraising as well.

lillyluminatus said:
Yes, well, when you do it once, it’s probably a mistake. When you do it every time you open your fricking mouth, it just might indicate something more. Shall I pull out my book of ridiculous Bush quotes? Because it would probably take about 10 posts to get through them all.

Shall I get out my book of Biden quotes?

NORBIT Jr. says:
THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZER uses taxpayer money to campaign just about 24/7; so what’s the problem?
…………………………
So by this “tea” standard,…. Bush owes a bill to the tax payers?

I would much prefer Ms Bachmann to use taxpayer money for the Tea Party than the Obambi’s using taxpayer money for their luxury vacations or for feeding the fat 1st Skank Lobster constantly! Ms Bachmann loves America, something that is foreign to the current Idiot in Chief! Anyone but the Worthless Excuse of a Leader, B. Hussein Obama, in 2012! My pet pig, Allah, could do a better job!

billwhit1357 said:
billwhit1357 says:
June 22, 2011 at 2:37 am  (Quote)

May you and Allah produce many generations.

Greg said:
A debate, when properly performed, is a verbal joust. The successful thrust a logical point reasoned and supported by evidence. Mrs. Bachman has demonstrated profound deficiency in constructing those elements needed for success in the arena of ideas. If you object to her visage, that is a point best adressed to Mrs. Bachmann. Regarding, your block based rememberances…ummmm…sure.

A “Profound deficiency?” At best, your opinion. Even if I agreed, AGAIN, this means nothing in regards to future possible debates.

Result? Go back and see my post at 1:29 on the 21st day of June. I guess that would mean you shouldn’t have bothered. Yes, it does.

Pablo said:
Is Obama using recovery.gov for partisan propaganda? Darrel Issa wants to know, and the GAO is going to find out. Stay tuned!

If you replace “Obama” with any republican in this sentence, SKYFET would be responding to this post with a “But…but…but He/she was caught red handed!”

valkyrie101 said:
Think about that “Fair and Balanced” motto, isn’t that really a very liberal notion, “fair and balanced”? that is socialism, pure and simple. So my theory is that Ailes and friends use it more as a taunt, like, “Here’s your fair and balanced, in you face”. Its like a Bronx cheer, or one of those hideous australian hoots.

Not as serious, but much more dumb then “Bush blew up the WTC!” You are truly the biggest tool here Val.

GuessWhoSuka said:
hehehehehehe……..wow…… Dude I so agree with you…really I do man…It’s unfair for the Republicans these days….. And I’m sure the radical socialist,terrorist fist-bumping,Kenyan born,anti-american,anti-Israel,anti-capitalism,secular muslim, who has a fat wife who hates America(Obama’s baby mama), who’s not one of us,who doesn’t believe in american exceptionalism ,who’s the opposite of freedom,who wants to destroy the country, who invites “hoods” in the “Big Hizzy” everyday, who’s chugging 40’s and doesn’t care about his country,who’s anti-police,who is a racist and has a problem with “white culture”,who faked his birth certificate,who faked his social insurance number,who hates freedom,who wants to put us all in FEMA camps to gas us,who spends 200 millions a day for a trip,who’s always on vacation,who’s a sexist,who’s a communist,who’s a marxist,who’s a Nazi,who’s children are “stupid” and “uneducated”,who Trump heard he had done “really bad in school”, who faked Bin Laden’s death,and who’s laughing at the american people while they are struggling….you know….. the President of the United states…..agrees with you too. So yea…..it’s really unfair for the Republicans these days…Right?Right…………

You have wasted about 4 seconds of my time that I could have spent on reading other post or being on NHL.COM. Please keep the childish nonsense a but shorter? Thank you.

And I only pointed out that they would be attacked. Never said anything about “unfair.” But like I said, you waste our time.

billwhit1357 says:
Ms Bachmann loves America, something that is foreign to the current Idiot in Chief!
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I will let Obama know that loving America, means…. not knowing it’s history,…. hating others beliefs,… misquotes,… spin,… making up your own own numbers,…. and avoiding all facts!

you guys miss the big point..she did it…now forget about her and vote for Dr. Ron Paul….they’ll never get any lagit dirt on him!